Ha! Me too. When mine got delivered, the sales guy couldn't believe when I said "I've never seen a gen 3 before "😂. First ride, knew it was supposed to be a fire breather, so I put it in street mode (lowest throttle response full power mode) full electronic nannies etc. Putter ed slowly to 3rd gear, then held on real tight and thought "let's see what a quick ish burst of 25% throttle will do....". Both handlebars ripped out of my hands and only the pillion seat kept me from sliding right off the back😂😂.
Mi too! I bought the new 1290 super duke r three weeks ago! I bought the bike without a test ride! I watched all the reviews on RUclips! I can't wait until winter is over!
That’s how I bought my gen 1. Walked into the dealership with a check for a different bike, saw that black gen 1 on the showroom floor, and walked out an hour later with a brand new KTM bottle opener and an SDR to match… I placed my order for the gen 3 as soon as they went on sale and rode it 600 miles home the day I picked it up
I just left the bike at the parking after a 7 hours ride, of which 3 and a half under a heeeavy rain. She brought me home in really hard conditions and I’m so grateful. She may be a beast but when you’re in need she does the job and inspires lots of confidence. Thank you my duchesse 🙏✌️
The best reviews, by far. So much info on the feel, the character, the weak points as well as strong points, and the apparent honesty. Love your work. Thank you!
@@LambChopRides just wait for TMF's review, he'll probably struggle to lean beyond 20 degrees and the bike will be amazing just like everything else he tests. Sorry but he's a 50mph Granny.
Absolutely love my SuperDuke. I've done highway miles, backroads, and even a tiny bit of dirt roads and it just eats it all up. Sounds amazing and loads of fun no matter where you're riding.
Real honest review. For a mere peasant like me who can only ride what I own, it comes down to personal preference and that is the KTM because you can’t beat a V twin.👍
I agreed with everything he said about the SDR, I leave mine in sport mode and never have to change it. But you have to be careful with your throttle input most especially at low speed.
I like mine in Performance mode. And if I'm riding tighter roads or track, I put the suspension into Sport mode and set the preload to Auto-Hard or deliberately set it to 60% preload, which is a little rougher but works nicely. On more open roads and regular riding, I put the suspension in Auto. But yes, I have an Evo.
Another step up in quality chops… you’re making a real effort and it’s truly showing. Fantastic work. Ooooooh that’s a naughty little sausage isn’t it, that KTM. Hard not to want one. 👍👍
Tuono and Speed RS are one trick ponies that are very focused. The 1290 SDR is a do it all bike that you can also throw a bunch of accessories at and it will become an incredible sport tourer. I love the design philosophy of the SDR.
I have a gen 3 SDR and I’d have to respectfully disagree with the opinion of the suspension… the front is adjustable and also has the red rings on the shafts of the front fork to help you gauge on how much you’d have to set it up. With that I feel like it mops the floor of all the bikes… especially with that adjustable rear shock right there as well 🤷🏻♂️ I think KTM definitely knocked it out of the park. Other than that man loved the vid and ride safe brother 💪🏼
After watching your previous review of the gen 3 i just had to have one.. Had been eyeing up the tuono for a few months but you def helped with my choice of the gen 3 superduke.. .. Love it.. Cheers chops!!
I've watched every video you've done on this Gen 3 SDR multiple times. Learnt several handy things and had an understanding of how it behaves prior to the test rides. Finally managed to get one a couple of weeks ago and am in love with it. Enjoy the channel a lot and really looking forward to the reviews on the many new machines landing in 2022! Thank you!
I have the V3 SDR and aside from getting only 800 miles out of a rear tire, it’s fantastic. But the tire issue is primarily my fault. I have the Akra Evo exhaust and tech pack. I leave it in track mode, anti wheelie off, and traction control at 3 100% of the time
You are the best reviewer by far! You made reference to a situation I had with my tuned 2018 Super Duke 1290 R. I was riding my bike and a little tired on day. I made a turn and needed to make an immediate lane change to turn left at the next intersection. I grabbed a handful of throttle in what must have been first gear. The front end bounced a few times and I almost lost it. I would have to say, you are the only one on this planet that has mentioned “Whiskey Throttle “. Lol BTW my bike is still in one piece. From that point on I made a cognitive decision to only ride that bike when I am fully on my game because that bike will chew me up if I let it. But that is why we love it because it scares us a little.
My mate has one and I gotta say. It’s really lives up to ‘the beast’ name. Cracking bike. Nice article chopster. Loads of useful real world detail mate 🤘🏻
Owned the 2011 RC8R and have always been a fan of the LC8 motor. While I am a KTM fanboy I do wish they would up their game on consistent quality control. My 2019 690 Enduro R is rock solid as have the KTM dirt bikes I have owned. but often hear of others that have had issues. Another great review and insightful comparison to the other super nakeds.
So true regarding the throttle, a few times when I’m just cruising along one handed and try throttle a bit and I’m like woah that was more than I thought I was going to get ha ha ha! Have to respect it
I had the 2020 and now have the 2021. I only ride with the suspension in sport mode. You should try it. The handlings is more precise and sharper. I didn’t like 👍 suspension in standard mode I could feel the rear end move around a little bit and the front end felt a little more vague. Little bit more of a rougher ride but worth it.
Also if you want a more planted front end feel all you have to do is raise the forks up one or two notches. I currently have mine on the 3rd line. You can go one or two more lines down from that to get a even more planted feel. I like the 3rd line because the bike steer quicker and there less weigh on my wrist. There is so many way to set this bike up. Then there the rear preload adjuster for even more fine tuning your angle of attack.
I rode the two back to back recently while my gen 2 1290r was being serviced, 890 first and loved it, so much better than the 790 but after riding the gen 3 1290 around Snowdonia for a full 2 hours it really was king. Can definitely see myself upgrading next spring.
A very fair assessment of the rankings of the super nakeds; thanks Mr. Chops. I’d put the Tuono slightly ahead of the Duke, but as you say, nitpicking really. As great as these big nakeds are, I’m coming round to the conclusion that, for UK roads at least, smaller capacity, light weight is the way to go, for reasons you know too well. Using smaller bikes to their (near max’) is great fun without the worry, which is why I’m hoping you might consider slinging your leg over the forthcoming KTM390 Duke R. For the money, with the new upgrades it should be a riotously fun (and cheap) bike to ride and own.
Your opinion is a mature one. I too believe that lesser weight is a priority specially in the 4 stroke, Euro 5 era where everything gets heavier. I own the Duke 390 2013 version and I tell you, in Indian market, even years later there's no proper replacement that's better in every matter. Even Duke 390 itself got heavier due to BS4 and BS6 emission standards (mine is BS3). Mine is the same old raw grunt that made KTM famous here. Go ahead wth the Duke, you can't go wrong with them.
Praying they release the V.3 KTM GT. It's the type of bike I need (Pillion-worthy/friendly says my wife--it's "her" bike ;) ). Have V.2 GT now and really like it but want the improvements. I'll ride a Multistrada V4 but we don't need/want a 19" front wheel ever and maybe the Pikes Peak if it can be easily adjusted for pillion/solo on suspension. I need MY solo rips, too.
Still love mine chopsy and have tried the rest to and for me definitely still the best 👍 I am a bit biased I must admit .great vlog again as usual chops
6:00 Yep. Which is why I love it. Its absolutely perfect. I dont care about anti wheelie and traction control being separate. I am not intending on doing wheelies on the road ... not intending to take the bike off the road.
have 22 890 r and heard some complain about the QS.....mine is pure butter, any rpm at anytime as long as you dont chop throttle like a clutch shift.....keep throttle on and its smooth as a babys bottom.....KTM makes great motorcycles......hopefully will get to ride this bad ass some day....
Nice review John, thank you. As you know I'm a Speed Triple 1050 owner and I think the SDR will win out against the others on my next update. As much as the Speed is a great machine I'm not brand loyal and fancy a change. The looks of the SDR are Marmite but I like it, particularly once it's had a few mods added. I don't think you can beat the sound of the Tuono but the SDR is a more all round practical machine still with buckets of fun.
The Gen 3 really knows how to finish a corner, something that all Aprilias require more muscle to do. I am an Aprilia guy for over a decade and for a street bike, I have zero complaints with what KTM have done to this bike. And it was cheaper after freight, taxes and a 5 year extended warranty + Tech Pack than the base MSRP on a Tuono Factory.
Great review chops as always , just bought one Had the Tuono , fantastic bike , but as you said , fuel economy and service costs , too much , and you can’t even add just a end can without changing the ecu 😫😫😫 But that v4 sound ❤️❤️❤️
Any new content with Lamb Chops or Superduke R’s, I’m all over it! I had one few weeks ago. I know it’s the natural progression for me. Chops, when are you buying one? You wax lyrical about it all the time.
Hello from France. Superb review as always !!! I have thoroughlly tried the Triumph and Tuono and got to the SDR gen3 on replacement of my Gen2. I hated the imprecise gear box on the Speed triple. Tuono is superb but no duo at all possible and it heats more…. Duo is not a nightmare on this SDR. Enough room under seat to carry 2 disc blocks which is not a detail ! Wonderful personality and engine présence even at low revs’ and speed …. The Tuono with Its amazing soins needs more speed to enjoy : even more of a driver’s licence predator. Only real weak point for me : the unprecise fuel gage : skipping from 70 kms of autonomy to 20 in 10 kms …. I fully agree with you : this SDR is a wonderful happy making everday Bike ! And perfect for big guys like you and me (I am 205 Lbs and 190 cm tall : speed triple looks very small under me …..)
@@LambChopRides absolutely ! Thank you for the magnificent work you do on your videos and your very in depth reviews, always keeping in mind the « real world » of biking practice, not only top power or speed but also everyday capability. That is a lot of work for sure !
Nice! Would like to see you review the ‘standard’ Tuono. I know it’s similar to the Factory but it’s a bit more practical for road. This may tip the edge to top spot.
Feels like you’ve tested this about 5 times! Just get one already! Thought about testing the standard Tuono V4, a more road focussed bike (higher bars/screen etc)?
I loved this bike when I rode it back in June. You feel very much like your are sitting on it as opposed to sitting in it as with the Speed Triple RS. The Speed RS Triple felt like it lacked soul compared to the SDR 3.0 which has bags and bags of character. Agree with everything said here. LC is a far better rider than I shall ever be. We await a review of the recently announced Speed Triple RR RS with electronic suspension. I would be so pissed off now if I had bought a new Speed Triple RS when Triumph had definitely said the RS was it, no further modifications or upgrades were on the cards. Yeah right.
A bike will always be upgraded ! And they will never tell you it will be upgraded when they just put it on the market ! That's so childish to be pissed off by that ! One thing for sur, we can't say you are sitting in the Speed Triple 1200 RS : strange you say that or you mixed up in and on as you are more in the KTM and on the Triumph (and I prefer the KTM for that, although it is good also with the Triumph). Character wise most people confond torque at low rpm and character : put a lower gear and you'll see if it lacks character lol
Nice review. I have a Gen2. I would say the taller you are the more ideal this bike becomes as well. If you are over 6' tall, all of it's competitors become a test of your flexibility endurance...And well, that's why I no longer rode sports bikes in the first place.
Went on a canyon run with 2 of those back when they were new, I was shocked how tall it was and I’m not that short lol. They were fast in the straights too
Nice re-review Chopsy! I’m liking my SDR a lot and agree with everything you said, but are you sure it’s considered heavy compared to others? By my math it’s only 442 lbs wet…pretty light. I’m sure you can’t go wrong with any of these other hyper-naked bikes, they’ll all put a smile on your face.
They dropped something like 4kg more out of the 2023 I believe. It's now probably the lightest - not sure what the streetfighter or the MT-10 weigh however. I have a deposit on a 2023 Evo. Super excited even after decades of bikes new and old.
Also if you want a more planted front end feel all you have to do is raise the forks up one or two notches. I currently have mine on the 3rd line. You can go one or two more lines down from that to get a even more planted feel. I like the 3rd line because the bike steer quicker and there less weigh on my wrist. There is so many way to set this bike up. Then there the rear preload adjuster for even more fine tuning your angle of attack.
Good advice. The bars are adjustable too, just moving them a little forward would make the front feel more planted, especially on track. I have the Evo and can set the preload about a dozen different ways, that alone makes the bike much more flexible. Turn it down or to auto for comfort, give it 50% or more for sport riding or use one of many presets including auto-hard, auto-med, auto-soft. Just amazing.
Great machine, love mine. Got an ex demo machine with Tech pack included with low mileage for less than £14k & got the heated grips which are brilliant. Ridden a Dragster & it wasn't for me compared to this, though it was still a nice bike taken on its own. Its the only bike I've ever bought without a test ride first & it doesn't disappoint.
Funny, I find the vibrations very good on this bike, a big sporting twin needs about 4500-5000 rpm which seems to be most of the problem, people keep riding them like they're an old Harley or something. Every big twin I've ridden is the same, my old Tuono, RC-51 et al Whereas the S1000R I rode made my feet and hands numb, and the owner had filled the bars with something (i forget, maybe lead shot?) to try and stop the incessant bar buzz of the BMW.
Great Vid, Mr Chops. I got the tech pack included in the new purchase price of my 2021 bike and a great PX deal for my old bike (MT09). I fitted the little plastic spacers in the throttle and it really helps with the initial throttle modulation. Agree with all of your comments, quick shifter... performance.... road handling are all fantastic, my only bug bear is the indicator switch (I have seen lots of online complaints on this). The comment of it being a "wobbly tooth" is spot on and it can take several attempts to cancel the indicators (the auto cancel does work but often not as soon as you need so as not to send the wrong message to others). Sorry I just cant accept the Tuono as a naked, great bike but it really is an RSV with a "saw off" fairing and bars replacing the clip on's. Final point..... why didn't you mention that you can fit a regular size Cornish pasty under the saddle??? (not the giant obviously LOL!!). Keep the content coming, and for goodness sake get back to your ongoing build projects :-)
Haha, yes I recorded this before the pasty run or I would have 😆 yes I also agree with switch gear feel it's not great expecially the indicator switch good point should have mentioned that 👍
I have one of these and i dont agree with you on the wheelie aspect you described, it could frighten potential buyers, my opinion is it wont come up unless you are in Performance or Track and wheelie control off, even at that you need to be deliberately aggressive on that throttle to get any effect, other than that a great informative vlog Chopsy
The wheel just comes up an hovers a little bit on its own at full throttle. It definitely doesn't wheelie uncontrollably at all. It's sure do them if you want to, though.
Chopsey, I’ve owned the streetfighter v4s & the super duke r 3 but recently tested the s1000r m sport, I found personally for me this was the best all round motorcycle I have ridden, surely this deserves a shout out, yes it was a little down on power but what a lot of motorcycle for the money, love your reviews as I can relate to your riding style. 👌 PS don’t get caught in the rain on the sdr gen 3, your back & arse will get soaking wet through via rear tyre splash😳
I got the old model s1000r and now i got the superduke 3.0. The BMW engine is absolutely amazing. The KTM chassis is better but is also a new bike. I've now much much problems with my KTM and the assistance is bad! Very very bad! My bike doesn't brake while it turned. The abs cornering work bad, it's gone, and ktm said me that is ok 🤣🤣🤣. I ride a bomb with the timer on my life. I'll sell this coffin and i'll take Tuono or come back to Bmw.
@@denvercolorado Me too brother. My 2014 SD spent 80% of its time riding to the garage. It really ruined the experience. It cost me approximately £1000 every 3-4 months in repairs. Yes, it might be an old bike but the damage has been done. Sorry everyone 😥
@@denvercolorado no issue on warranty in UK at all. Sounds like your buying your bikes from dodgy places 😆 Aprillia Tuono is amazing bug they are very very problematic. But each to there own lol
Whilst the S1000r is a phenomenal road bike and ridiculously fast and good at everything, it just doesn’t have the character you need, to be in that top 3.
Hi lamb Chop, I don't know if you remember me but I'm the super duke addict who lives in S/W France currently on my 5th 1290. I'm sending you this message with a link to one of my son's videos that he took in Spain last week. I'd like you to see it because it gives you an idea of the sort of roads we ride in Spain & this is just one amongst many. It was a test video with a borrowed camera so the perspective isn't great but it should give you a good idea, try & watch it all if you can & you'll see me at the very end on my 1290. The roads here are probably some of the very best maybe in the world & I would like for other people to know about it & that is why I would like you to come down & try them for yourself. In fact I love the region so much that I bought a place there & it's only about 3 hrs from my house in France. This particular road is about 50 km of fantastic bends & scenery. Also I'm thinking that maybe we could get a few tours going hopefully next year. Anyway here's the link & let me know what you think ruclips.net/video/VtPsc6EBRi0/видео.html Ps I tried to send you this message on your lcr website but couldn't get past captcha code.
The electronics on all the new Triumph’s are junk. On a brand new 2022 Tiger i00mRap, Triumph’s factory infotainment team couldn’t even get an iPhone 13 Or GoPro 8 or 10 to connect and integrate. Also, the amount of times I stopped the engine while in the dirt, and then was attacking an ascent and it had reverted back to road mode and I forgot to put it back into off-road mode and got caught out halfway up a hill or incline is countless. I sold the bike and wrote off all Triumph’s because of the electronics alone.
Good catch up review Chops, it is still the Daddy (but I'm biased), just such a shame the gen3 has lost the burble and pop on the overrun. On a different note, those shorty type gloves really worry me, there's exposed skin in normal riding so there'd be a lot more if you were sliding down the road (don't try it, please). Leaves your wrists and forearms so exposed, makes me shudder a bit.
BT-Moto and others are selling tunes for the Gen3 now. They not only release 5whp everywhere and change the response entirely, you get lots of burbles and pops.
Love it, looks great, love a huge performance v-twin. Just wish the dash had less of an iPad app/calculator looking UI. Can’t get used to the look of the dash.
Hi LCR, Great vid. I have a 3rd gen and love it, apart from the left hand side panel falling off and the clutch issue raising its head whilst on a track day! You say you can get heated seats for the SDR Gen3 in the vid, I don't think you can but I'd be interested where you heard that because I do like my creature comforts. Ride safe mate 👍
Still looking at picking up a gen2. There’s a 2017 with track pack and quickshift and an SC pipe for sale about 3 hours away. If it were closer it might already be headed for my garage….
I test rode the new Streetfight, sat on it, and thought "What is Chopsy on about", after riding it for about 25 minutes, I saw what you meant. It's bizarrely tiring, it's just...you might as well buy a Panigale. Sure, it's upright, but it felt a little strange. When I returned to the dealership at the end of my ride, it was a "no" miles before getting there. TV4 vs SDR for me.
I’d love to see you try a Streetfighter V4 with exhaust! It’s a whole different beast with the mtorque upmap…. But it does get louder 😈. Btw love your videos 🤙🏻
Bought mine without a test ride or no knowledge of a Superduke, best decision ever mate.
Ha! Me too. When mine got delivered, the sales guy couldn't believe when I said "I've never seen a gen 3 before "😂.
First ride, knew it was supposed to be a fire breather, so I put it in street mode (lowest throttle response full power mode) full electronic nannies etc. Putter ed slowly to 3rd gear, then held on real tight and thought "let's see what a quick ish burst of 25% throttle will do....". Both handlebars ripped out of my hands and only the pillion seat kept me from sliding right off the back😂😂.
Mi too! I bought the new 1290 super duke r three weeks ago! I bought the bike without a test ride! I watched all the reviews on RUclips! I can't wait until winter is over!
Me too. Cant even ride it because it's winter here in finland.
That’s how I bought my gen 1. Walked into the dealership with a check for a different bike, saw that black gen 1 on the showroom floor, and walked out an hour later with a brand new KTM bottle opener and an SDR to match… I placed my order for the gen 3 as soon as they went on sale and rode it 600 miles home the day I picked it up
@@goldnmoto383 no better feeling mate 👌
I just left the bike at the parking after a 7 hours ride, of which 3 and a half under a heeeavy rain. She brought me home in really hard conditions and I’m so grateful. She may be a beast but when you’re in need she does the job and inspires lots of confidence. Thank you my duchesse 🙏✌️
The best reviews, by far. So much info on the feel, the character, the weak points as well as strong points, and the apparent honesty. Love your work. Thank you!
Thanks Barry 👍
@@LambChopRides just wait for TMF's review, he'll probably struggle to lean beyond 20 degrees and the bike will be amazing just like everything else he tests. Sorry but he's a 50mph Granny.
@@johnwandle oooh shots fired right at the water line!!!
@@johnwandle
You meant to say
"absolutely amazing" right?
Some say "to much is never enough " I say that the gen 3 Evo hits the sweet spot plain and simple , can't get enough of mine .
Absolutely love my SuperDuke. I've done highway miles, backroads, and even a tiny bit of dirt roads and it just eats it all up. Sounds amazing and loads of fun no matter where you're riding.
Legend has it; the front wheel is still in air
Real honest review. For a mere peasant like me who can only ride what I own, it comes down to personal preference and that is the KTM because you can’t beat a V twin.👍
I agreed with everything he said about the SDR, I leave mine in sport mode and never have to change it. But you have to be careful with your throttle input most especially at low speed.
I like mine in Performance mode. And if I'm riding tighter roads or track, I put the suspension into Sport mode and set the preload to Auto-Hard or deliberately set it to 60% preload, which is a little rougher but works nicely. On more open roads and regular riding, I put the suspension in Auto. But yes, I have an Evo.
Completely agree Chops👍🏻 Just makes you smile every time you take it out. just does everything well but in a fun crazy way!
Another step up in quality chops… you’re making a real effort and it’s truly showing. Fantastic work. Ooooooh that’s a naughty little sausage isn’t it, that KTM. Hard not to want one. 👍👍
Tuono and Speed RS are one trick ponies that are very focused. The 1290 SDR is a do it all bike that you can also throw a bunch of accessories at and it will become an incredible sport tourer. I love the design philosophy of the SDR.
I have a gen 3 SDR and I’d have to respectfully disagree with the opinion of the suspension… the front is adjustable and also has the red rings on the shafts of the front fork to help you gauge on how much you’d have to set it up. With that I feel like it mops the floor of all the bikes… especially with that adjustable rear shock right there as well 🤷🏻♂️ I think KTM definitely knocked it out of the park. Other than that man loved the vid and ride safe brother 💪🏼
After watching your previous review of the gen 3 i just had to have one.. Had been eyeing up the tuono for a few months but you def helped with my choice of the gen 3 superduke.. .. Love it..
Cheers chops!!
Love the review Chopsie! I’ve got a Gen 2 and pick up my 2021 Gen 3 next week! Can’t bloody wait.
Great job! You are surely the most HONEST reviewer on RUclips right now. Please stay that way!
I've watched every video you've done on this Gen 3 SDR multiple times. Learnt several handy things and had an understanding of how it behaves prior to the test rides. Finally managed to get one a couple of weeks ago and am in love with it. Enjoy the channel a lot and really looking forward to the reviews on the many new machines landing in 2022! Thank you!
Absolutely Love yout HD content!!! I really appreciate you taking the extra upload time for all of us !!! Nice 👍 work Chops!!!!
KTM is rolling out some super duper awesome bikes lately, 890 Duke, 1290 and Now they are testing a 990 too...How cool is that...😍😍😍
Thanks for the great review tomorrow I’m picking up my brand new 2022 superduke!!
I have the V3 SDR and aside from getting only 800 miles out of a rear tire, it’s fantastic. But the tire issue is primarily my fault. I have the Akra Evo exhaust and tech pack. I leave it in track mode, anti wheelie off, and traction control at 3 100% of the time
You sir are my kind of guy!
I leave it on 1. Have to admit, I've had the tire spin up pretty hard a couple of times.
That front seat release tab and suspension settings sticker are genius. Love quality of life touches like that.
You are the best reviewer by far! You made reference to a situation I had with my tuned 2018 Super Duke 1290 R. I was riding my bike and a little tired on day. I made a turn and needed to make an immediate lane change to turn left at the next intersection. I grabbed a handful of throttle in what must have been first gear. The front end bounced a few times and I almost lost it. I would have to say, you are the only one on this planet that has mentioned “Whiskey Throttle “. Lol BTW my bike is still in one piece. From that point on I made a cognitive decision to only ride that bike when I am fully on my game because that bike will chew me up if I let it. But that is why we love it because it scares us a little.
Glad you got away with it Patrick! Yes indeed the bike is really a beast isn't it 👍😁
My mate has one and I gotta say. It’s really lives up to ‘the beast’ name. Cracking bike. Nice article chopster. Loads of useful real world detail mate 🤘🏻
SD is still the king 👑, your right Chops, none of the super naked are bad bikes, it just depends which is your preference, I’m still orange.
Great review as always mate, I look forward to riding one. The sound when you blipped the throttle at the beginning was to die for. Want!
Owned the 2011 RC8R and have always been a fan of the LC8 motor. While I am a KTM fanboy I do wish they would up their game on consistent quality control. My 2019 690 Enduro R is rock solid as have the KTM dirt bikes I have owned. but often hear of others that have had issues. Another great review and insightful comparison to the other super nakeds.
Thanks Paul 👍
So true regarding the throttle, a few times when I’m just cruising along one handed and try throttle a bit and I’m like woah that was more than I thought I was going to get ha ha ha! Have to respect it
Great descriptions of the characteristics of your bike. You'd be a great teacher because the way you csn explain things. 👍
I had the 2020 and now have the 2021. I only ride with the suspension in sport mode. You should try it. The handlings is more precise and sharper. I didn’t like 👍 suspension in standard mode I could feel the rear end move around a little bit and the front end felt a little more vague. Little bit more of a rougher ride but worth it.
Also if you want a more planted front end feel all you have to do is raise the forks up one or two notches. I currently have mine on the 3rd line. You can go one or two more lines down from that to get a even more planted feel. I like the 3rd line because the bike steer quicker and there less weigh on my wrist. There is so many way to set this bike up. Then there the rear preload adjuster for even more fine tuning your angle of attack.
👌👌👍👍 test rode 1290 adv s yesterday was blown away with the whole package the engine is a peach
The Super Duke R and S1000R were my two favourites when I tested all the nakeds this summer...
A comparison between this and 890r with Greg would be great. Can you have as much fun on smaller bike? Like triumph street v speed.
Yes was hoping we could do this one, one to try for next year now!
I rode the two back to back recently while my gen 2 1290r was being serviced, 890 first and loved it, so much better than the 790 but after riding the gen 3 1290 around Snowdonia for a full 2 hours it really was king. Can definitely see myself upgrading next spring.
A couple comparisons/reviews of the two out there. If I alone rode on the weekends I’d have the 1290, but the 890R is an easy bike to live with.
You keep knocking it out the park with these vids
A very fair assessment of the rankings of the super nakeds; thanks Mr. Chops. I’d put the Tuono slightly ahead of the Duke, but as you say, nitpicking really. As great as these big nakeds are, I’m coming round to the conclusion that, for UK roads at least, smaller capacity, light weight is the way to go, for reasons you know too well. Using smaller bikes to their (near max’) is great fun without the worry, which is why I’m hoping you might consider slinging your leg over the forthcoming KTM390 Duke R. For the money, with the new upgrades it should be a riotously fun (and cheap) bike to ride and own.
Your opinion is a mature one. I too believe that lesser weight is a priority specially in the 4 stroke, Euro 5 era where everything gets heavier.
I own the Duke 390 2013 version and I tell you, in Indian market, even years later there's no proper replacement that's better in every matter. Even Duke 390 itself got heavier due to BS4 and BS6 emission standards (mine is BS3).
Mine is the same old raw grunt that made KTM famous here. Go ahead wth the Duke, you can't go wrong with them.
I absolutely love mine !!!!!! Good review Chopsy ! 😀ride safe
Really looking forward to seeing the new GT and what you think of it. I reckon it could be bike of the year
Praying they release the V.3 KTM GT. It's the type of bike I need (Pillion-worthy/friendly says my wife--it's "her" bike ;) ). Have V.2 GT now and really like it but want the improvements. I'll ride a Multistrada V4 but we don't need/want a 19" front wheel ever and maybe the Pikes Peak if it can be easily adjusted for pillion/solo on suspension. I need MY solo rips, too.
Still love mine chopsy and have tried the rest to and for me definitely still the best 👍 I am a bit biased I must admit .great vlog again as usual chops
Thanks Scaff 👍
6:00 Yep. Which is why I love it. Its absolutely perfect. I dont care about anti wheelie and traction control being separate. I am not intending on doing wheelies on the road ... not intending to take the bike off the road.
Great review,would be awsum to see a review of the RR tho as nobody has really done one,I think alot of people would like to see your thoughts on it
What was that little whine from @13:22 till :26? Sounded like the brakes. I get that sometimes and I can’t figure out what it is.
have 22 890 r and heard some complain about the QS.....mine is pure butter, any rpm at anytime as long as you dont chop throttle like a clutch shift.....keep throttle on and its smooth as a babys bottom.....KTM makes great motorcycles......hopefully will get to ride this bad ass some day....
Nice review John, thank you. As you know I'm a Speed Triple 1050 owner and I think the SDR will win out against the others on my next update. As much as the Speed is a great machine I'm not brand loyal and fancy a change. The looks of the SDR are Marmite but I like it, particularly once it's had a few mods added. I don't think you can beat the sound of the Tuono but the SDR is a more all round practical machine still with buckets of fun.
The Gen 3 really knows how to finish a corner, something that all Aprilias require more muscle to do. I am an Aprilia guy for over a decade and for a street bike, I have zero complaints with what KTM have done to this bike. And it was cheaper after freight, taxes and a 5 year extended warranty + Tech Pack than the base MSRP on a Tuono Factory.
Great review Bud, things are getting tight at the the top . My choice would be the KTM , practical , range and comfortable.
Great update chops. Just bought a gen 2 but I’ll keep saving 🤑
Great review and Cheers from New Zealand.
I had Tuono before Gen3 SDR. For me the winner is SDR by a descent margin, but I liked Tuono a lot too. V2 on SDR is sublime.
Currently on a Grom, but this is what I want next.
Collecting mine on monday afternoon. Cant wait!!
Great review chops as always , just bought one
Had the Tuono , fantastic bike , but as you said , fuel economy and service costs , too much , and you can’t even add just a end can without changing the ecu 😫😫😫
But that v4 sound ❤️❤️❤️
Like your reviews Chops! Seem to watch more of yours than anyone else, looking forward to the ZH2 review,
Thanks Rob 👍
Any new content with Lamb Chops or Superduke R’s, I’m all over it!
I had one few weeks ago. I know it’s the natural progression for me.
Chops, when are you buying one?
You wax lyrical about it all the time.
I keep focusing on the display. What a nice looking screen.
Sold mine as it would not keep a charge. Bloody nightmare. Now on SMCR, 👍🏆
I have a 18 sdr 36000miles....love it.. thinking of upgrade soon .. leaning towards a 22 sdr.....
It’s a big bike . Super Duke over the Aprilia and Ducati on looks alone .
Hello from France. Superb review as always !!! I have thoroughlly tried the Triumph and Tuono and got to the SDR gen3 on replacement of my Gen2. I hated the imprecise gear box on the Speed triple. Tuono is superb but no duo at all possible and it heats more…. Duo is not a nightmare on this SDR. Enough room under seat to carry 2 disc blocks which is not a detail ! Wonderful personality and engine présence even at low revs’ and speed …. The Tuono with Its amazing soins needs more speed to enjoy : even more of a driver’s licence predator. Only real weak point for me : the unprecise fuel gage : skipping from 70 kms of autonomy to 20 in 10 kms …. I fully agree with you : this SDR is a wonderful happy making everday Bike ! And perfect for big guys like you and me (I am 205 Lbs and 190 cm tall : speed triple looks very small under me …..)
The Tuono has an amazing « sound »…. Sorry automatic French corrector…..
Thanks Emmanuel seems we are on the page here 👍
@@LambChopRides absolutely ! Thank you for the magnificent work you do on your videos and your very in depth reviews, always keeping in mind the « real world » of biking practice, not only top power or speed but also everyday capability. That is a lot of work for sure !
This isn't just how easy to ride but how easy is to loose your licence 🤣🤣🤣.
Nice review Chopsy 👊
Would love to see you review the RR version
Nice! Would like to see you review the ‘standard’ Tuono. I know it’s similar to the Factory but it’s a bit more practical for road. This may tip the edge to top spot.
Yup they are wrong, maybe the gen1 version certainly not the gen 3
Please give it a try if you can. Reckon a lot of people would be interested. 🙏
Feels like you’ve tested this about 5 times! Just get one already! Thought about testing the standard Tuono V4, a more road focussed bike (higher bars/screen etc)?
I loved this bike when I rode it back in June. You feel very much like your are sitting on it as opposed to sitting in it as with the Speed Triple RS. The Speed RS Triple felt like it lacked soul compared to the SDR 3.0 which has bags and bags of character. Agree with everything said here. LC is a far better rider than I shall ever be. We await a review of the recently announced Speed Triple RR RS with electronic suspension. I would be so pissed off now if I had bought a new Speed Triple RS when Triumph had definitely said the RS was it, no further modifications or upgrades were on the cards. Yeah right.
@Casey R. How do you know you'd still take the RS instead of the new Speed RR? The RR hasn't even been released yet let alone on sale in dealers!
A bike will always be upgraded ! And they will never tell you it will be upgraded when they just put it on the market ! That's so childish to be pissed off by that ! One thing for sur, we can't say you are sitting in the Speed Triple 1200 RS : strange you say that or you mixed up in and on as you are more in the KTM and on the Triumph (and I prefer the KTM for that, although it is good also with the Triumph). Character wise most people confond torque at low rpm and character : put a lower gear and you'll see if it lacks character lol
Nice review. I have a Gen2. I would say the taller you are the more ideal this bike becomes as well. If you are over 6' tall, all of it's competitors become a test of your flexibility endurance...And well, that's why I no longer rode sports bikes in the first place.
Went on a canyon run with 2 of those back when they were new, I was shocked how tall it was and I’m not that short lol. They were fast in the straights too
Great video as always.
Nice re-review Chopsy! I’m liking my SDR a lot and agree with everything you said, but are you sure it’s considered heavy compared to others? By my math it’s only 442 lbs wet…pretty light.
I’m sure you can’t go wrong with any of these other hyper-naked bikes, they’ll all put a smile on your face.
They dropped something like 4kg more out of the 2023 I believe. It's now probably the lightest - not sure what the streetfighter or the MT-10 weigh however. I have a deposit on a 2023 Evo. Super excited even after decades of bikes new and old.
Enjoy it Steve! Lucky sod
Great review Lamb chop !
Sold
Also if you want a more planted front end feel all you have to do is raise the forks up one or two notches. I currently have mine on the 3rd line. You can go one or two more lines down from that to get a even more planted feel. I like the 3rd line because the bike steer quicker and there less weigh on my wrist. There is so many way to set this bike up. Then there the rear preload adjuster for even more fine tuning your angle of attack.
Good advice. The bars are adjustable too, just moving them a little forward would make the front feel more planted, especially on track. I have the Evo and can set the preload about a dozen different ways, that alone makes the bike much more flexible. Turn it down or to auto for comfort, give it 50% or more for sport riding or use one of many presets including auto-hard, auto-med, auto-soft. Just amazing.
Great machine, love mine.
Got an ex demo machine with Tech pack included with low mileage for less than £14k & got the heated grips which are brilliant.
Ridden a Dragster & it wasn't for me compared to this, though it was still a nice bike taken on its own.
Its the only bike I've ever bought without a test ride first & it doesn't disappoint.
MV and super Duke for sure! Aprilia for the sounds
I rode this one yesterday and as much as I loved the raw power, my hands were buzzing from all the vibrations and I was tired.
Funny, I find the vibrations very good on this bike, a big sporting twin needs about 4500-5000 rpm which seems to be most of the problem, people keep riding them like they're an old Harley or something. Every big twin I've ridden is the same, my old Tuono, RC-51 et al Whereas the S1000R I rode made my feet and hands numb, and the owner had filled the bars with something (i forget, maybe lead shot?) to try and stop the incessant bar buzz of the BMW.
Have you taken the 890 Duke R for a ride? Had a search and was surprised to see you haven't done a video on it yet.
Agree, hoping to see a review of the KTM 890 DUKE R.
Streetfighter are more soft and more uppright😜Superduke 1290 in sport mode brutal 3t gear wheelie✊🔥speed triple slower and more blend 🤙
Great Vid, Mr Chops. I got the tech pack included in the new purchase price of my 2021 bike and a great PX deal for my old bike (MT09).
I fitted the little plastic spacers in the throttle and it really helps with the initial throttle modulation.
Agree with all of your comments, quick shifter... performance.... road handling are all fantastic, my only bug bear is the indicator switch (I have seen lots of online complaints on this). The comment of it being a "wobbly tooth" is spot on and it can take several attempts to cancel the indicators (the auto cancel does work but often not as soon as you need so as not to send the wrong message to others).
Sorry I just cant accept the Tuono as a naked, great bike but it really is an RSV with a "saw off" fairing and bars replacing the clip on's.
Final point..... why didn't you mention that you can fit a regular size Cornish pasty under the saddle??? (not the giant obviously LOL!!).
Keep the content coming, and for goodness sake get back to your ongoing build projects :-)
Haha, yes I recorded this before the pasty run or I would have 😆 yes I also agree with switch gear feel it's not great expecially the indicator switch good point should have mentioned that 👍
there's only ONE size of Cornish pasty m8, LARGE STEAK! :D
Haha.. love the fact you leave stuff like 4.04 in 😂 "whhat"
I think it's a great looking bike and colour scheme
I have one of these and i dont agree with you on the wheelie aspect you described, it could frighten potential buyers, my opinion is it wont come up unless you are in Performance or Track and wheelie control off, even at that you need to be deliberately aggressive on that throttle to get any effect, other than that a great informative vlog Chopsy
The wheel just comes up an hovers a little bit on its own at full throttle. It definitely doesn't wheelie uncontrollably at all. It's sure do them if you want to, though.
Chopsey, I’ve owned the streetfighter v4s & the super duke r 3 but recently tested the s1000r m sport, I found personally for me this was the best all round motorcycle I have ridden, surely this deserves a shout out, yes it was a little down on power but what a lot of motorcycle for the money, love your reviews as I can relate to your riding style. 👌
PS don’t get caught in the rain on the sdr gen 3, your back & arse will get soaking wet through via rear tyre splash😳
I got the old model s1000r and now i got the superduke 3.0. The BMW engine is absolutely amazing. The KTM chassis is better but is also a new bike. I've now much much problems with my KTM and the assistance is bad! Very very bad! My bike doesn't brake while it turned. The abs cornering work bad, it's gone, and ktm said me that is ok 🤣🤣🤣. I ride a bomb with the timer on my life. I'll sell this coffin and i'll take Tuono or come back to Bmw.
@@denvercolorado Me too brother. My 2014 SD spent 80% of its time riding to the garage. It really ruined the experience. It cost me approximately £1000 every 3-4 months in repairs. Yes, it might be an old bike but the damage has been done. Sorry everyone 😥
@@denvercolorado no issue on warranty in UK at all. Sounds like your buying your bikes from dodgy places 😆 Aprillia Tuono is amazing bug they are very very problematic. But each to there own lol
Whilst the S1000r is a phenomenal road bike and ridiculously fast and good at everything, it just doesn’t have the character you need, to be in that top 3.
@@TheGEEFUNK Tuono 2021 is the supernaked with less problems. Ktm, Ducati and Triumph are catastrofics
No pasty stop?
Hi lamb Chop, I don't know if you remember me but I'm the super duke addict who lives in S/W France currently on my 5th 1290. I'm sending you this message with a link to one of my son's videos that he took in Spain last week. I'd like you to see it because it gives you an idea of the sort of roads we ride in Spain & this is just one amongst many. It was a test video with a borrowed camera so the perspective isn't great but it should give you a good idea, try & watch it all if you can & you'll see me at the very end on my 1290. The roads here are probably some of the very best maybe in the world & I would like for other people to know about it & that is why I would like you to come down & try them for yourself. In fact I love the region so much that I bought a place there & it's only about 3 hrs from my house in France. This particular road is about 50 km of fantastic bends & scenery. Also I'm thinking that maybe we could get a few tours going hopefully next year. Anyway here's the link & let me know what you think
ruclips.net/video/VtPsc6EBRi0/видео.html
Ps I tried to send you this message on your lcr website but couldn't get past captcha code.
Just wanted to back up your review comments about the Techpack, I just bought a Superduke 1290 R and the dealer threw in the Techpack for free.
any chance to see a s1000r vs speed RS soon?
Just to let ya know Mr chops ,I'm always free if Greg is doing other things 😂🤣😂
All the best
Great vid 👍
haha thanks Michael :-)
The electronics on all the new Triumph’s are junk. On a brand new 2022 Tiger i00mRap, Triumph’s factory infotainment team couldn’t even get an iPhone 13 Or GoPro 8 or 10 to connect and integrate. Also, the amount of times I stopped the engine while in the dirt, and then was attacking an ascent and it had reverted back to road mode and I forgot to put it back into off-road mode and got caught out halfway up a hill or incline is countless. I sold the bike and wrote off all Triumph’s because of the electronics alone.
Yeah triumph electronics are a bit restrictive I've found the same!
Refreshing to hear a RUclipsr trash a bike as you did the Speed Triple due to its electronics.
track mode only mode to use & stage 3 openflash ecu
You didn't even have to talk about not riding the males.... We've been on your channel for long enough 😜😜 I knew what you meant 😂😂
Haha 👍 😄
Good catch up review Chops, it is still the Daddy (but I'm biased), just such a shame the gen3 has lost the burble and pop on the overrun. On a different note, those shorty type gloves really worry me, there's exposed skin in normal riding so there'd be a lot more if you were sliding down the road (don't try it, please). Leaves your wrists and forearms so exposed, makes me shudder a bit.
KTM 690smc R
BT-Moto and others are selling tunes for the Gen3 now. They not only release 5whp everywhere and change the response entirely, you get lots of burbles and pops.
Hey John, another great watch. Thanks! Where would you place the latest S1000R in the rankings?
Great video as usual Chops.
Any news on your Ducati heads and the build?
What about the new MT10SP 2022 ??
Would you ever be able to review the RR version they now have, just to compare it to the " normal " version. Great review, 👍👍👍🇬🇧
Love it, looks great, love a huge performance v-twin. Just wish the dash had less of an iPad app/calculator looking UI. Can’t get used to the look of the dash.
Hi LCR,
Great vid. I have a 3rd gen and love it, apart from the left hand side panel falling off and the clutch issue raising its head whilst on a track day!
You say you can get heated seats for the SDR Gen3 in the vid, I don't think you can but I'd be interested where you heard that because I do like my creature comforts. Ride safe mate 👍
Yes you can, got them installed on my Gen3 at the first break- in service. They work great, use C1 to turn on Heated Grips menu.
The Speed is better! It's awesome with the Racefit exhaust.
Still looking at picking up a gen2. There’s a 2017 with track pack and quickshift and an SC pipe for sale about 3 hours away. If it were closer it might already be headed for my garage….
Absolutely loved this
Are you going to review the new Tuono (Non-factory)?
I joined the ktm family a couple of years ago. Never looked back. Made by bikers for bikers
Oh Yeah as Usual another great review btw.
I test rode the new Streetfight, sat on it, and thought "What is Chopsy on about", after riding it for about 25 minutes, I saw what you meant. It's bizarrely tiring, it's just...you might as well buy a Panigale. Sure, it's upright, but it felt a little strange. When I returned to the dealership at the end of my ride, it was a "no" miles before getting there. TV4 vs SDR for me.
Yes you need to ride it for awhile before the tiring kicks in! Glad Im not the only one :-)
@@LambChopRides I've heard it from a few other people too, it's not just you or I.
I’d love to see you try a Streetfighter V4 with exhaust! It’s a whole different beast with the mtorque upmap…. But it does get louder 😈. Btw love your videos 🤙🏻
A great machine, nice review .
Top marks Mr Chops. of to buy one . Hang on I already did.. 🤣🤣🤣🏁