Pakistani JF-17 Thunder Vs Indian Su-30 MKI | BVR Engagement | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS
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Make a video on su 30mki vs j-10c
You just released it on our republic day . Nice timing 🕶.With love from India
Su30 MKM vs F15 SG next please!
Do arrange and make the video of jf-17 block-3 vs su-30mki and Rafael
Next su57 vs f35
The real beyond visual range fight is in the comment section.
Lol
Havent seen it
lmaooo. Thankfully I don't see any yet. And hopefully everyone is gonna stay civilised.
🤣🤣🤣
@@retardmoguss It's here now
SU 30 MKI VS F-15
that would be one hell of a dog fight to watch
Agree ! Or Su30 mki vs j11
@@-fulcrumer Yeah that's not gonna go well for the J-11A
@@shaun1165 True that
Well...Su30MKI has thrust vectoring...so it will just play the one circle...
Daaaamn I love Su30MKI !
Greetings from France anyways :D
Greetings from India to French brothers ;)
Thanks for the rafales. Saw a very good fly by
@@kelvinkudirical1438 thanks dude 😁
@@nandakrishnanrajesh7961 thanks man 😁
France makes the best looking and amazingly capable aircraft
The Su-30MKI is an absolute beauty of an aircraft.
It really is, its so mean looking and perfectly designed for its role. The Indians did good ordering those.
It would look even more better with just one seat, instead of 2
I just hope these particular BVR engagements stay in the realm of DCS for quite some time and don't become real any time soon.
same, its all fun and games in DCS but not so fun irl.
India have already faced Pak f16 in 2019 where Su30mki dodged all the amram, which gave one mig21 a chance to successfully kill F16.
@@parthsahu8909 hahahhahahah 🤣🤣 watching Indian media again?
@@parthsahu8909 it’s not about that, it’s about not escalating above a threshold to to inflict serious casualties on both sides
@@parthsahu8909 I read that the opposite happened. 😕. Just saw that Mig-21 was shot down.
A non-BVR engagement between the SU-30 MKi vs the Raptor would be a nice experimental fight to watch, GS !
f22 raptor? are you out of your mind lol
Raptor will obviously win, it has crazy numbers
@@utkarshchaurasia2233 Its a flying stealth brick. It doesnt have the same aerodynamic adventages as the Flankers because of its sharp stealth design. Thrust vectoring isnt a real adventage because the modern Flankers got it as well. On Airshows the Flankers are showing their suprior agility
Hence, "experimental" fight lol
@@utkarshchaurasia2233 not obvious my friend. The Su-30 is like specifically built for the merge, much like the Su-35, 37 and 57. They have SOOOOO much nose authority, especially in the first turn
When you show the fight from tacview perspective, it's astonishing how close these missiles get to aircraft and how narrowly getting killed is avoided. Just a matter of few knots or degrees
That was a really cool shot with the su30 taking off and going vertical and the runway rolling at the bottom.
Reminded me a lot of one of Ace Combat 7's cutscenes. Stunning, to say the least
seeing that missile chase you down and your escape was something special. Had it a bit more speed of the rail or a bit more lead on launch, you could have been admiring the view under a canopy :) Just those few seconds decided the fight, it's crazy to think about.
At that range, probably less than a second decided it.
JF-17 fairly consistently had problems crossing Mach 1 throughout this fight, always placing its missiles at disadvantage.
So at this point it's not just luck, but a downside of a heavily armed light fighter.
@@neniAAinen you got a point. Acceleration is probably a very important metric in BVR since you need to regain speed quickly after initial salvo and dodging to give your subsequent missiles more energy.
Legend has it that RWR tone is still playing inside GS's head to this day...
Awesome work as always GS, I particularly Iiked the smooth frametime consistency that you managed to obtain whilst still keeping the graphical fidelity so high.
I also really appreciated that you took the time to include a Tacview of the entire engagement, especially for a BVR fight!
thank you always nice to see you commenting around here. So many of you guys were asking for tacview I couldn't not do it for this round. Glad you enjoyed.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Hey, thanks a lot man.
It really means a lot that you, as such a successful DCS creator (no offence, I just hate the term 'influencer'), not only still take the time to read through and consider our comments and suggestions, but also recognize us by name!
@@mortlet5180 my pleasure man and I couldn't agree more I hate the term influencer. I'm not here to influence anything lol. I just want to make videos that people enjoy watching.
93000 surrender was 🤘😝🤘
Waiting since long for this one! Also the LCA TEJAS on DCS soon!
Thats not happening but battleaxes are working on it
First get LCA tejas in IAF and IN
@@humzatariq7136 it is already there bro in IAF😑, and IN Tejas never meant to be in IN , it is just a technology demonstrator for TEDBF in IN
@@humzatariq7136 already in IAF, IN he's different requirements as all carrier borne fighter nowadays is a twin engine but IN will induct N LCA based LIFT Trainer. won't expect people from countries without a decent navy lat alone a carrier to understand
@@humzatariq7136 for your kind information Indian Airforce has 35 Tejas and 84Tejas mk1 on order
Why do I love the look of two seater aircraft better than single seat? This looks so much better than an SU-33 to me. Same with the Hornets and F-15s
I actually have to agree with this sentiment. I think it’s one of the reasons I like the f-14 so much.
@@GrowlingSidewinder Dude how did I fail to mention the F-14? Yes that too. Such a big sexy aircraft.
Have you seen two seater F-16's ?
@@Mike_Romeo Yeah the B and D models are two seaters. I love those too.
@@WalrusWinking same goes for the Dassault Rafale and the Mig 35
Should include some short footage of the two aircraft flying together, so us aircraft nerds can appreciate the opposing planes in the same shot
Agreed
Since your first Astra had him defensive at the beginning, I think you could've pressed him and fired more until you splashed him.
he def couldve but he wanted to be sure he was safe so he defended anyways.
I think he played safe so he went defensive...live now to kill later. 🤣
@@koishily ya exactly this, if I knew there was no missile I would have killed him with follow up missiles but I played it safe defended. if you recommit thinking there is no missile you get inside the MAR and all of sudden a TWS missile goes pitbull and smokes you in the face, its better to defend and be safe unless you KNOW he didn't fire a missile (but how could you know?)
Spamraam doesn't work in dcs dude
@@GrowlingSidewinder Mhm. I felt like you were trying to play it safe like irl combat doctrine too. You only got one life to live, and jets cost 20M each, after all.
I have no idea how to fly a plane, either IRL or in-game, yet I still feel like I just got a Top Gun instruction on BVR engagements. Thanks SW!
Love the arrow indications as a complete newbie to DCS and flight sims! They help a lot.
I love that you pointed out the instruments and what they were. It would be so helpful to do this in each cockpit you fly in. Very informative vid. Well done... ☺
Astra missile🔥🔥
The world can have all the F22s, Eurofighters and Rafales, but my love for the Su30 will always be at the top! ❤
You mean the whole Su-27 Flanker family or just the su-30mki because India has it?
@@cardude1992 No the whole flanker family actually 😅 But yes the su30 has a special place.
@John Hero You can search up the SU-33
It seems like DCS has even further nerfed those SD-10s. Until recently their performance was slightly better than AMRAAMs.
@@doubleugly1594 I feel like the block III would be a good edition
They are only trying to mimic the real performance of SD-10s.
@Infinity it does
It was recently inducted
@mandellorian the sd-10 is even worse. It has a range of 80km so imagine how small it's NEZ will be for comparison the amraam 120c5 gas a range of 105km
After the gorgeous su-30 mki, waiting for Tejas 😍😍😍
Waiting a lot bro
Waiting for Tejas MK 2
@@DeletedAccountForSure absolutely
@@isarali5634 Yeah that's not coming in the next 6 years considering Tejas mk 1 isn't even bere
@Infinity Yeah wdym
That Su 30 viking takeoff in the intro gave me chills.
Great video and Tac view. Su 30 MKI would normally have 2 pilots like the F-14, hoping to see a SU 30 jester soon!!
MKI indeed is a beautiful aircraft! ❤
Great looking aircraft! The thrust vectoring nozzles are awesome. They put a lot of work into the su30. Great fight as well. 10/10
F-22 Vs F-35 BVR would be interested
Hmm
It would be interesting.. but more like F-22 vs maybe su-35.. because su-35 literally has every cool feature but isn't stealthy.. like in capability it's kinda better than the F-22 but i wanna see a fight like this BVR just to see how good stealth is.. because even tho the su-35 has better capabilities the F-22 would win because it's well.. stealthy
That missile chased you quite well and for quite some time at the end 😂😂😂
Please let us know when the LCA Tejas mod is available. This BVR engagement with the Astra Mk-1 was terrific, would love to see the Flanker MKI pitted against the F-15 EX. That would be your weight to counterweight kinda fight which you sometimes do by pitting old/dated aircrafts against new/superior ones
Today's we have Republic day here in India btw, so great timing 🇮🇳🔥👍❤️
Interestingly, i feel like the Su-30 vs the F-15EX would emphasize the country's doctrinal differences much more than your normal Eagle vs Flanker fight, which is pretty damn near even. It would basically be pitting the 4.5th gen king of supermaneuverability against an unparallelled spamraam god.
@@lobster838 still sounds like a good idea to me.
Su-30 MKI is more of an equivalent to the F-15 C/D variant. The F-15 EX is way ahead.
@@hiteshsharma1132 Russian's super sukhoi upgrade or maybe India's super sukhoi upgrade might match up if not excede the f15ex
@@asmityadav4216 No it wouldn't. The F-15 EX has the best radar and avionics that the US could put in it. And the US is decades ahead of Russia in that regard. The Russians don't even have a proper AESA radar yet.
The SU-30 is my favorite Flanker. This is awesome
I thought we agreed on longer videos... This one reeeeeaaaallllllly leaves a "too short" after taste. Love your work
The level of detail in DCS is amazing ! 😃❤
Indian Su-30MKI vs Chinese Su-30MKK vs Malaysian Su-30MKM would be interesting... :D
Lol, a Flanker Furball🤣💥
Vs Russian su30 sm1
@@skyhorseprice6591 Deathmatch like in the Unreal Tournament... 🤣
@@Cuccos19
Slayer as seen in Halo. Omg, with _jets!_ 🤣🥲😱😂😵💫😵💫😂😂😹🤣😵💫😅🏃🏃🏃🤜💥💥🤛🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👁️👀👁️🤣
Man! Your video quality and training aids are top tier, the best! Good job.
Love the videos, I hate to ask! But... I would love to see some BVR with the Typhoon versus say late gen Flankers etc, particularly using the super cruise and high altitude, 65,000 service ceiling with quite high mach and data link to the meteors, scuttlebutt is that this is an underestimate, with the objective to look-down shoot-down the bigger lower flying Flankers but they are flinging hypersonics back at the Typhoons. Just a thought.
@mandellorian aim 54 flashbacks......
This mod is just sooo amazing can't wait to fly it myself!
Real life pilots: missiles dont chase like in the movies
SD10 Propaganda machine: hold my sekrit documents
Lol nice one 🤣🤣
SD10 and AMRAAM: ~I believe I can fly~
i like how you put the red arrows when you were talking about the RWR and the other things bc i never know which is which:)
23:20 that has some serious "DCS is a horror game" energy
Damn those Su 30 MKIs are some of the most beautiful aircrafts to exist
Beauty,but how about the performance? Ukranians are shooting down those jets like pigeons.
@@manjunatha8131 which one? Su 27 or the Indian su 30 mki?
@@manjunatha8131 ?
@@manjunatha8131 Indian su 30 is different than Russian India su30mki has upgrade radar avionics etc
I think the fact that you stayed low saved your ass.... !!!! Very good vid.
Ladies and gentlemen,my day has been made! great to see yet another king of the sky,the flanker get some love and the Su-30 is just glorious!
Gotta love em BVR fights
Great vid growling 👍
Wondering about the recent Indian Rafale and the Pakistani and Chinese J-20 dcs comparison hopefully soon ! Love your videos keep going!
That Tac view review was very informative! Thanks
I was watching the dog fight between these 2 and bam! BVR video came! Thank You Sidewinder for these amazing content. 😂❤
Very timely GS, Happy Republic Day to fellow Indian dcs fans
He is GS🙄
Wow incredible timing GS...Today at Republic Day of India we saw a picture of Tejas Series Production with Astra MK1 integrated.
DRDO also working on Astra MK2 which has Dual Pulse propulsion which will give it more Range and better No Escape Zone.
Absolutely loving the longer videos
Thank you for the eye candy at the beginning!
Ah Shit! Here we go again! Happy Indian Republic day everyone!!!!
Beautiful graphics and stellar gameplay. The interior view is incredible.
Your vids keep getting better and better, keep up the good work!
Love the blue afterburner effects of the Su-30!
The entro was awesome GS when I see those jet nozzles do that vectoring bullshit it really gets me excited lol.
awaited for this video for so long....also waiting for LCA tejas vs JF-17
yeah me too
@@hustler4386 LCA Tejas is still squadron exclusive to No.15 Battleaxes. I don't know when they will or weather ever they will release it for public use.
Chutiye pehlay samosay ko operational to kar lo 😂😂😂😂
@@TheEMRAAN1122 bheek maangna bandh kar le pehle. 🤣🤣🤣
@@TheEMRAAN1122 chutiye pehle apni hari chatni khud bana le. Tu log toh sirf paint karta hai🤣🤣
We all know Pakistan does not have toilets. Don't sh** here in the comments.
That missile chasing him was like "come here I just wanna talk" 😂
SU-30MKI vs SU-35 would be a realistic scenario 😁
Please keep doing Su30 videos GS! Loving them!
Su 30 mki and bhramos A equal
Deadly combination .
Thank you for that DL2 link. You're an absolute legend
I liked the flying style of Metador. Very smooth in his turns. Shame about the last turn though!
Real pilots: Missiles can't chase you, it's only in movies
My question is how is that SD10 chasing GS?
DL'ing. Link 1 no go for me. Just fyi.
Impressive stores, be interesting as a weapons truck against the new F15 coming out (irl, not dcs as far as I know) with appropriate data link ac assist. Look forward to seeing more air combat with it. Ty, GS.
F15E is in the works by razbam as far as I remember.
I was SO waiting for this !!
Only yesterday I learnt about crank and active and passive homing. Today I saw it in action. Damn!
I'd be interested in seeing how tactics evolve in a circumstance where you have to use only Fox Ones. Damned if I can ever kill anything with a Sparrow.
Amazing intro cinematics. And thank you for the famous callback to Ace Combat 7's Mihaly's SU-30MK takeoff cinematic. Thank you from some awesome inputs too! Love from India!
It was an Su-30SM btw.
I always wonder where do the devs of mods like these get their data from, like it’s impressive how much they get right.
Loved this! Need more like these!!!!
Now Pakistan got J-10c and India got Rafale.
This is very impressive though. The Su-30mki looks awsome. Would love to see it against more jets like the F16, F18, Chinese J11 etc.
Love your tacview discussions. Very information and enjoy learning about dogfights.
No pakistan haven't officially bought j10c. First they have to arrange funds somewhere probably begging loan.
J10c is in different category to Rafale. Both can't be compared, it would be unfair for J10c to be compared with more capable Rafale.
J10c is in the same league with F16 and would be comparable with upcoming Tejas Mk2 with both having single engine and similar payload capacity.
@@amanjuyal8560 yeah they need to beg hard this time cuz IMF has denied them any loans. Recently Pakistan has started selling it's own territory like airports, building and highways to generate foreign exchange.
@@DeletedAccountForSure Who cares? Pin them in DCS and watch Pakistani propaganda crumble to pieces. Don't you want that?
@@amanjuyal8560 27th Feb says otherwise
Dude you gotta do a fox 2 series with the MKI. F-15, j-11, jf 17, f 16, hornet. It'd be fun to see. Maybe through in the rafale as well 👀
He has a Su 30 MKI vs JF 17 Fox 2 dogfight video uploaded
well the Su30 MKI will just one circle with its thrust vectoring and fox 2 in double quick time...
I like that they finally got the Sukhoi cockpit color correct.
I'm extremely happy the cockpit is in English :)
As always, I congratulate you for the excellent fights, for the good and impartial videos, I say this because I have seen other simulation videos in which your compatriots fight with all the advantages to make only the North American teams seem invincible, but the reason why the one I am writing to you is to suggest that given the geopolitical circumstances you make a simulation of an intersection that could occur in reality, this would be that of a su-34 intercepted by a euro fighter or by an f35 and the combinations that could occur in the Actually, Su-35 vs Eurofigter in bombing duties or F-35 in close support to NATO troops, what do you think of the idea?
Informative debrief. Watching that missile close in from behind, I thought it was going to be one of those "I think I'm gonna be OK-" (WHAM!) moments. Does this sim support a "missile's-eye-view" display?
3rd person missile view: yes
Great video. I really enjoyed the tac view and the explanations! 👍
What a day to upload this video!!!
I can already imagine seeing the Su-30 in a strike fighter mission, it's a beaut to look at
Wow people getting triggered by this fight on both sides. It is a virtual fight even more it is a modded module. 🤔
I know right!
Those wonky nozzles look like me trying to focus when I've had too many drinks
Finally you did it.
But plz bring it against some mordern F series fighters like F16,F15 ,F18,F22 ,F14.
These late flanker models really make me feel some type of way, if y’all get me
Excellent show as always. Would you please do a BVR fight between Taiwanese F-16C and Chinese J-16 which is actually an upgraded model of Su-30 MKK carrying PL-15 missiles? Thanks!
well ROCAF doesn't have F-16C (what they do have are F-16A/B Block 20 and a handful of F-16Vs) and J-16 is more closely linked to J-11BS (and by extension SU-27UBK) than MKK. It'd be awesome to see those two (F-16A block 20 or the newest F-16V, as well as the actual J-16) in game, but sadly neither seems to be on the horizon =(
@@schwerter_1053 J16 is more linked to the J11D models, sporting AESA radar and a large amount of composite material used for construction.
@@dabo5078 J-11D actually appears after J-16 tho
@@schwerter_1053 The two were developed in tandem. BTW the J16 is developed from the SU-30.
@@dabo5078 yes I was talking in terms of first flight time.
Super...absolutely loved it. Please do some vids with the Su30mki.
LCA Tejas inclusion in dcs is something I hv been waiting for, just wanna see how it performs against jf 17 and F16
You can also try Brahmos with Su-30mki if its Available!!!
It's an air to ground missile
@@imperialenforcer2271 basically anti ship cruise missile.
It's already available
@@imperialenforcer2271 There are Air to air, Air to Ground, Ground to air, anti-ship both from sea and coast variants available of this cruise missile
Recent one exported to Phillipines being coastal Anti-ship variant
But not sure if any of those available in DCS
@@imperialenforcer2271 He can use it in a mission of ground attack..
Youd think the developers of DCS would check and regulate mods themselves like GIANTS SOFTWARE do with their farming sim mods, just to check fairness and make sure theyre running right....
DCS is a hardcpre flightsimulator with so high standards that its used by airforces arround the world as training platform. Mods doesnt reach the needed accuracy to be official modules
Hey Mr. Sidewinder, you should make a video detailing all terms, strategies, and other basic knowledge of aerial combat and link them at the beginning/end of every video so you don't have to reexplain yourself
Flying the SU-30 you could start using some lines from Mr. X/ Mihaly from Ace Combat 7 lol
Big fan of the channel. More BVR please and thank you. Keep up the great work.
*Oh i predict a war happening down here*
Awesome gameplay... can't wait for ASTRA IR & ASTRA MK2
Thanks bro,for accepting my request and make the video
@Growling Sidewinder. What are your favorite fighter aircrafts(Combat aircraft)????.....
For me, honestly I'll list the ones I like:
1. F-35
2. F/A-18 Super Hornet Block 3
3. F-16(Block 70/72)
4. F-22
5. SAAB Jas39 Gripen(C and E)
6. Dassault Rafale(General and M versions).
7. MiG-29
8. SU-30( Series)
9. SU-35 (So far the best of Russia).
10. SU-57
Shouldn't the Su 57 be the best so far of Russia?
This is a real Bollywood production.
yeah 😂 funded by Indian govt.
Wow, that's some bullshit u just said.😂😂😂
@@frightfulbuffalo7081 me?
@@lordmozart3087 yeah, ofcourse you.
@@frightfulbuffalo7081 lol, ok Indian.
Su-30 mki has 200km range radar besides Jf-17 has only 110-120 km radar.
that was indeed amazing... please make more videos on Sukoi 30 mki