@@alifeoncechris It'd probably be better if he wasn't going to the map all the time to see what the other people are doing. Of course, that makes the video worse... maybe they need to record the session on all the player's computers and edit it together with a voiceover afterwards? I'd be willing if I had the time or knew what I was doing with video editing software (although, for the basic "cut between streams and add an audio channel" kind of stuff it'd require, I don't think learning the software would be the hard part).
@@OtherTheDave it doesn’t bother me I was making more of a joke than anything. I think the videos are fantastic with the cuts into the map so we have sit awareness. it’s just part of cap that makes him cap.
@@OtherTheDave he's doing daily videos. This level of multi source editing is not going to happen. And he's usually pretty good (in flying and video making) despite the camera work. But he must have a second camera angle. You can tell in from action shots in videos without anybody talking. Also the whole thing allowed that glorious little kick at 25:30
@@grimreapers NASA has a term for this: "the Normalization of Degradation." Basically, you get used to ignoring alarms/danger signs which USUALLY don't mean anything. As a result, exactly the time you need to pay attention to them you're so used to ignoring them that they might as well not exist.
an india vs china scenario would need special landscape where the minimum altitude is around 3km to model the himalayas. that might make manoeuvring difficult. For extra challenge. model it so the minimum altitude is 7km to reflect the highest points of the himalayas.
The effect you are seeing around the aircraft is the visualisation of the transonic shock waves created by the cold dense air being compressed as you reach Mach 1 Cap. There are some photos of it online to compare it to. It's good modelling.
Unrelated to the battle, but do you guys have any intention on modeling either of the in development U.S. missiles the peregrine or the cuda, it'd be interesting to see f-35s stuffed to the gills with those tiny little buggers
This was a very enjoyable battle. Had it just been the J-10Cs, Team India probably would've taken both rounds with a couple of losses but those J-20s were like total match breakers in this battle.
IRL ,India has only 36 rafales so it would have been like mostly Indian mig 21s vs 500 Chinese 🇨🇳 J10s India lacks in both quality and quantity vs plaaf
@@talhaabdullah285936 mig 21 are currently in service with 120 rafale purchase around the corner and indigenous tejas with 83+97 units ordered there would be significant improvement when the tejas mk2 and amca would join forces with the 2028 timeline also 500 j20 wont only be at india china has numerous enemies so at max 100 could be aimed at india while most would be toward south china sea
@@ALV694PLAAF has 100+J-20 "is the data from the beginning of mass production of J-20 in 2019. A spokesperson for the CN Ministry of National Defense claimed that 80+J-20 have been produced annually since 2019. The person in charge of Chengdu Aircraft Company stated that more than 450+J-20 have been produced so far. A person in charge of an air force base in Fujian Military Region revealed that there are currently more than 400 J-20 in service in the Chinese Air Force. CCTV revealed numbered photos indicating that the Chinese Air Force currently has 423 J-20 in service
In REAL world however, the Russians just need to wait for the LGBTQ agenda destroy those nations. Far cheaper and easier option since culture is the root of all nations.
Nice battle !😎 Really quick question. I just noticed that the mod for J10C is actually a J10A and based on the antenmna and inlet config , it might be some early to mid blocks(before 08'). So For 10C, I can see you change the new AESA with pl15 capability, but the 10C also redisgn its inlet for blocking the blade signature and the body shape and material, so compare with A which has a RCS about 2.5, the C models reduce it to less than 1(around .8 or .7 I believe? ).
It shouldn't be less than 1 as the plane still carries many missiles, and they also have radar signatures (yes the 0.5 RCS used for rafale is also way too low). Nevertheless the stated 2.5 RCS for the J-10 is indeed quite an overshoot, especially when we consider the 5 RCS of Su-30 and the 0.5 for rafale used in the simulation.
In a real combat, you wouldn't even know whether there is a J20 that you cant see. The Chinese have an absolute advantage, the 'man behind the machine' is largely insignificant here.
That "thing" that happened on the third round to Cap's plane is how a sonic boom looks. You get condensation forming in the pressure wave as you hit Mach 1
a naval battle would be a massacre. there is no ship for India or France currently in game that can match a type 50 or 45. also while at sea, there is no hard cover like mountains for Indian fighters to hide behind (if there are carriers involved) meaning that the chinese will have a turkey shoot with their longer range missiles. france might do a bit better cos they have naval f 35 fighters but still its gonna be hard cos nothing can match the type 50 as of now edit: France does not have any f35s, i was thinking about the british when i said that. but still, they have the rafale m which would still be able to put up a better fight than nay indian aircraft
@SHASHWAT SINGH this is why the @trap called the comments a dumpster fire. for goodness sake its VIDEO GAME!!!! whether or not china is better than india remans to be seen and that will depend on a whole host of factors. its not as clear cut as one thinks. all i know and care about is the public road in front of my house has not been repaired in 7 years and is a mess, not whether we beat china or not.
Is there any reason why you made the J-20 a low observable and not a true stealth fighter because as far as I am aware that is its only purpose not dogfighting or anything and every military analyst if seen doesnt doubt its capabilities
Actually you need to bring the geography into the fight as Chinese Air Force can not take off their planes with full load due to the altitude issue. So they will have only 65-70% of their weapon load while taking off.
As an Indian myself this is the most accurate representation of a fight between Indian and Chinese airforce will look like..And btw I know its not the plane its the pilot like Top gun Maverick but in reality the one with technologycal advantage always wins..Love your videos ❤
@@ALV694believe me there are a lot of viewers then commenters and most people don't care. We will see the reality rather than get hyped by simulation.
No modern digital RADAR return processing system relies on doppler effect to see targets any more - in other words you cannot notch a modern system - this simplistic processing was the only way to reduce clutter in the old analogue world. Even as far back as 1993 you couldn't notch Sea Harrier's Blue Vixen with its then sophisticated digital signal processing.
Lol. This comments section is going to become a dumpsterfire real quick. Waiting on the ultranationalist Indians to get here and comment about how they have some super weapons and the Rafale is the best aircraft of all time ever etc. Every country has its fair share of loons, but India has something special in the water.
we have a billion people. even if the number of loons we have are less than the global average, it will still be a dumpster fire. best ignore them and enjoy the video. after all its in good fun :)
Funny how you're crying more than they are lmao. Most of the time they're not wrong. I'm not even Indian and I can see many reasons why Indians would complain. Forget just DCS, they're so misrepresented almost everywhere, I see why they get pressed sometimes. Chinese aircraft like the J-10 and J-16 are incapable of operating with a full combat load over the Himalayas. They simply cannot take off with that load, whereas Indian aircraft like the Rafale, are specifically modded for high altitude ops. PL-15 is easily overpowered in game. It has 40nm more range than an AIM-120D, which is EXTREMELY hard to believe. I'm sure its range is much closer to 90nm, which they claim is on their export variant. And the J-20s RCS is bugged. 0.05m2 is a joke, I've not seen even the Chinese claim that lol. 'Expert' analysts have placed it anywhere between 0.08 and 0.3m2 head on. Any other angle and it's much worse than the Rafale.
@@gauravdey4163 Sure but apparently the Rafael is actually a better stealth fighter than the J20 and can simply teleport away from danger using the power of Modi Ji
The sim was cool, and switching the player teams did prove it to be fair. Only one thought: Indian strategists do rely on the lower range and payload capacity of the Chinese fighters owing to the relative altitudes of air bases of the two countries. Until such factors and topography is factored in, these Sims have entertainment value and may not reflect actual conditions.
I still think DCS overmodels the Russian SAM systems in the game. Especially when it comes down to them shooting down like 90%+ of missiles like HARMs and ground hugging cruise missiles. When the US has used these types on weapons in actual combat very, very few of them have ever been shot down.
Chinese anti-missile system can already intercept ballistic missiles, for subsonic harpoon, what do you think. Believe it or not, look at the performance of the s300/s400 on the Ukrainian battlefield.
Cap had only Electro-optical lock so no radar guided will launch. Afaik hud says EORL or something when you have also a radarlock, atleast in the core game Flankers
J-20s are not supposed to be used against India,as India's doesn't have any stealth aircraft it should have only been the j-10,j-11 or j-15 kind of aircraft from the Chinese side. Plus i don't think China will directly send it's Stealth fighters to counter India near an airbase which is closer to India or a landscape where it is almost impossible to fight.
Yup, this is why India has a real problem with their current air force. Can’t buy J20’s from China, and they are starting to really distrust the US…so SU57s?
One critique i have for you folks, and its not just this video, you guys always abandon your AWACS. Useful or not there are two dozen souls aboard that aircraft. There is absolutely no way any modern military would sacrafice HVAA for a 3 on 3 dog fight. Love the content yall keep it coming
Never forget the hidden part of the warfare, and that is LOGISTIC issue. Assuming India is able to survive the onslaught, can their multi nations imported spare parts able to be replace on time, compare China where most of their spare parts are locally manufactured.
Modern AWACS is overpowered. All China has to do is protect their AWACS with their stealth fighters and use their jets as missile trucks. India doesn’t have anything that can counter this strategy. India is pretty far outclassed here.
I think for a future video an interesting idea would be using the indigenous Astra missile for the Sukhoi 30 MKI or: The Astra MK II meant as a response to the AIM 120D and PL 15 ( 160+km range) The Astra MK III ( Indian Meteor with 300km+ range)
@@easonhuang7117 3000kms would be near impossible for a missile of today's generation. 300km is achievable though as the supposed R37M has shown in Ukraine according to sources. The Astra MK III claims to be able to do something similar and reach out that far.
Only Astra Mk1 in service. No point in using variants not yet in service because the public specifications are not reliable at sll until seen in use. They said in the video that they don’t have a game model for any Astra yet.
@@vector8877 missiles like the R37M had very low pk even against the Ukrainian jets with poor rwr fired at max range, kind of a success getting a hit or two i guess. Excellent missiles against awacs tho when we don't consider the EW packages with awacs.
pffffff. im indian and even i lolled at those ranges. the US aim 260 d( which has just finished development) has a range of 140 km declared. the astra is worse than the meteor with a max range of 70 km (DRDO managed to hit a target at 73km with the astra mk 1 a). the astra mark 2 (which will be in service by only 2024) will have a disclosed range of 120 km. meanwhile the pl 15 which was introduced in 2015 has a range of atleast 120 km. also your claim on a 300 km air to air missile is a load of crap. have you seen a long range sam? the s400 with has roughly 400 km of range has a missile larger than the su 30. the bhramos despite being as long as the entire plane only has a 250km range. the soviet r37 ultra long range missile has about 170 km range (but it can barely maneuver and was designed to hit slowmoving bombers). as long as some now revolutionary tech is undiscovered, it wont be easy for to break the 200 km effective range barrier and nearly impossible for india.
High mountain ranges would yield destruction of fighter and other aircrafts more due to terrain than any enemy actions. It would be end of air force actions in high Himalayas.
I wonder if there would be a remote GCI at a central base that would have AWACS data and data-link. You could have almost personalized SA coordinators for each aircraft in a theater, could yall try to simulate something like that?
@@stupidburp But given the shorter range of J-10s and shortage of airfields near the China-India border, the most likely opponent of IAF are flankers.
You know is interesting that seeing 2nd tier Indian millitary power always trying to compare with us. I mean please try to figure out make your own toys instead of buying them from other daddies first.
Cap, in the first round when Simba fired on the AWACS, wouldn't the AWACS immediately detect the missile, approximate location from where it was fired and notifiy you guys? That way you would know Simba was out over the water. Or is the simulator not set up that way?
The primary purpose of the j20 is to shoot down high value military assets. Even if you can spot missiles, it is very difficult to detect the location of the j20. Dog fights rarely happen in reality.
Loved the video @Grim Reapers! Can't wait for the next video man! The Rafale, Su-30MKI, J-10C and J-20 look pretty good but it's usually a combination of Numbers as well as Training and How Advanced the Equipment is. India: 36 Rafales (28 Single Seaters and 8 Twin Seaters) and 272 Su-30MKI's (with 12 more ordered). China: 180+ J-10C's and 208+ J-20's as of 2022. So China has the Advantage in Numbers and Technology for the Most Part so a War Between China and India would end up coming down to How much in terms of Military Aid India's Allies can Bring, the United States likely Shipping Further Supplies of Various Ordinance to India. This, however, can easily be Negated because of the Fact that PZMC (in China) is the World's Leading Manufacturer of the Ship-to-Shore Cranes that you see at the Harbours around the World. These Cranes arrive Ready to be Installed and have an Uplink which apparently can be used to Monitor What gets moved to Which part of the World and Because they're made in China, the Chinese Government can (and Almost Certainly will) punch in a Kill code and render every last Crane Inoperable or make them a Workplace Hazard. The FBI recently Boarded one of the Vessels used to Carry these Massive Cranes to the Harbor in the Chesapeake Bay while it was waiting for the Tide to come down far Enough that it could proceed under the Bay Bridge and made a Detailed Study of the Crane onboard. Thoughts on that anyone?
No thats not the case, you need to understand the geography of China first.. 80% of their assets are on Eastern side of China where 90% of Chinese population lives as the Tibet is uninhabitable cuz of its elevation nd weather nd leads to problems in transportation of logistics.. Also there main threats are 5000km away from Indian boarders like Taiwan, Japan, Usa, Korea, Philippines nd other south China sea countries..
There is also very limited no of Airports in Tibet cuz of elevation so that many aircraft can never be deployed.. They also face a bigger issue due to flying from higher altitude as aircraft can't carry optimul payload which also decrease the range cuz the performance of engines drop significantly.. While for India the Himalayas end there so there are less elevation nd flat plains starts nd there are 100s of airports, Delhi itself is like 600km from the border itself.. Nd all of India assets are on north cuz its surrounded by ocean on other 3 sides...
@@ajju2666 80% of their assets are in East because there is no war in the west, if war would start 80% would be in west… And Chinas logistic are by faar larger and better then India’s, they have better infrastructure in all aspects and way more assets dedicated to logistic. And in a war with India, India is the threat, not USA or Japan because non of them would start a war with China over a war with India, India is nOT an Allie of them and they do not starts war with nation like China for that sake. And an military airport are built in a few days, China are extremely good in that area, even a nation like India will build an airport in a week, China are experts, they are even faster. And I believe I answered you earlier over the altitude issue, if not, here is another answer. “Hot and High” is a real condition as you say, It’s a condition of low air density due to high ambient temperature and high airport elevation. Air density decreases with increasing temperature and altitude. The lower air density reduces the power output from the aircraft's engine and also requires a higher true airspeed before the aircraft can become airborne. BUT, it’s not an issue for military fighters, in order to neglect this condition you Inject distilled water into the engine compressor or combustor. The primary purpose of water injection into jet engines is to increase the mass being accelerated, thereby increasing the force created by the engine. And by doing that you can take off with full weapon and fuel load. This is done all over the world, including in India. As an example, during the gulf war USA did this from Saudi Arabia, thousands of sorties in a week, in this conditions, with max load.
How accurate is your Rafale modeling? Does it take into account electronic warfare? During the Libyan operation Rafale jets evaded all radars and missile defense systems. It has conducted missions around the world and never been shot down
Was thinking the same thing. The electronics, in particular ECM I’m assuming real world are superior in the French jet vs Russian and Chinese. But obviously a simulation can only go so far and know so much. Additionally the biggest factor in any engagement which can’t be factored is individual pilot skill. Indian pilots train with their USAF counterparts, not sure how many hours the average Chinese pilot manages per year and what their training looks like but I’d venture to guess nothing to brag about. They certainly have no real world experience like the rest of their military.
@@debratakahara2494 Everyone forgets the fact that China spends only second to the US for their military and assumes no flight hours or insufficient training when they clearly have enough equipment and budget needed to keep up with training. Secondly, China also trains with Russian counterparts and they do not lack any expertise with ECM either. if you want to see them as the enemy then treat them as such and do not overlook their capabilities.
In Libya an old Spitfire could evade radars because the most modern radar and SAM Libya had were from the 60s And what mission have Rafale done that were against an enemy with air defence assets? Never.
wont change much imo. the ability to hide behind the mountains negates most of the missile advantages of both sides and it will go down to pilot skill. even then, the pl 15 has more range so it will be able to punish a mistake more effectively.
again depends on many factors. is an AWACS in play? will it take place over the Himalayas where the planes can hide effectively or will it be over the open sea? which missiles will they use? will it be AI or humans? depending on these factors, unless the battle is fought over some form of natural cover (so the mki can hide itself until it gets in range) and is flown by a human, it is a slam dunk for the j10. the j10 is smaller, carries a similar amount of better missiles compared to the mki and has a better rate of turn. the mki has a better electronic warfare suite, has longer endurance (thanks to the dual piloted cockpit), better high altitude maneuverability (thanks to the thrust vectoring) and maybe a slightly better radar? at least in this simulation and in most real life situations, the longer range your missile has (and radar) that fighter will win.
This was it. As close as they can probably do with currently available models. India’s Su-30 would have Astra in real life which would help but their networking is not great and might not get target data from other aircraft. China’s PLAAF Flankers have more capable components installed and they have 3x more of them. J-10C is a notch below Rafale but they have hundreds of them VS just a few dozen IAF Rafale. I wish the best to the IAF. They are in for some tough fights as soon as it goes hot.
@@stupidburp I think it would've been awesome for the IAF if MBDA had agreed to install the Meteors on the MKIs(literally) but yeah Astra MK IIIs and IIs will have to serve I guess
I don't Understand Why DCS Doesn't have J10c these are the old J10 A which Different then J10c there Nose amd Air intake are different then J10 Block C....
I am doing well thanks for asking.have you looked in to float plane for a place to upload your videos it’s owned by lmg and is supposed to be great I don’t really know how it works it’s just another place that you could upload
Pretty sure RMAF sukhois aren't any different than all the sukhoi variants (and yes I know it has some western avionics, but its not really that "unique" either)
Awww you listened! Thank you are the best! Please can we have a larger mission, with mostly AI.. India playing point defense and China's mission to destroy a base, land based cruise missiles, airstrike. S 400 , keep everyone in mountains and let the better pilots win.. India would rely upon optical sensors and long range fox 2s.. All of India's fighter have long range fox 2.. Sukhoi, mig29s run latest version of R 27(bought in 2020), IR derbies as well, suppose to be pretty good.. rafales, mirage have mica IR.. big advantage in mountain air battle.. We do have a few not so covert foxbats in our inventory as well, if u wanna R37 awacs.. India game plan has always been mid range optic IR based fights..
Su 30s are the backbone fighters of IAF which can Carry lot of payload and very agile in dogfights. Main point of this simulation was to show how a confrontation would have played out. And also Nobody has made mods of Tejas i guess.
Are you for real???? Su-30 MKI is more advanced than Tejas, particularly for BVR combat. Tejas is not very advanced, it's just late to the party and new. It has a weaker engine, so will have issues with high altitude and long range. Won't be any use in this scenario, and would be no match against J10 and J20. Rafale and Su30 are best options. Tejas is best suited for short range interception, and ground attack, and maybe dog fights against other 4th Gen fighters.
@@grimreapersthen how many j20 do you think they need Sherlock ? What's your educational background ? Just to get some sympathy & views from the overproud & big-mouth lame Indians, you have created this video ? & Please don't worry about China & their fighter jet fleets. They have indigenously built engine, & plethora of fighter jets to choose from. As far as no go, currently they have 200+ j20 & estimated 500+ till 2026, j35 their another variant of 5th gen jet is also near completion, tho this is an export version, but they will also add in very good number in coming years. In other hand there's your superpower India, who has also indigenously built fighter jets ranging from 4th 5th to even 6th gen but only in PowerPoint presentation. Curry head you better be busy in your dream & imagination rather than talk shit in jealousy for others.
Think India would give China a good fight initially, but as China's apparent ability to churn out military equipment as fast as Greggs turn out sausage rolls😂, I'd give China the edge!
I was just wondering if either Chinese aircraft and missiles have seen any battles?? Any credibility..so it's just a figment of imagination ..I'm not being biased but Indian Equipment and tech is battle tested..
"I didn't know how fast I was going"
*plane keeps screaming maximum speed*
cap needs better situational awareness
@@alifeoncechris It'd probably be better if he wasn't going to the map all the time to see what the other people are doing. Of course, that makes the video worse... maybe they need to record the session on all the player's computers and edit it together with a voiceover afterwards? I'd be willing if I had the time or knew what I was doing with video editing software (although, for the basic "cut between streams and add an audio channel" kind of stuff it'd require, I don't think learning the software would be the hard part).
@@OtherTheDave it doesn’t bother me I was making more of a joke than anything. I think the videos are fantastic with the cuts into the map so we have sit awareness. it’s just part of cap that makes him cap.
@@OtherTheDave he's doing daily videos. This level of multi source editing is not going to happen. And he's usually pretty good (in flying and video making) despite the camera work. But he must have a second camera angle. You can tell in from action shots in videos without anybody talking.
Also the whole thing allowed that glorious little kick at 25:30
The plane always says either max speed or over g when cap is flying it’s nothing new
Watching Cap's maneuvering issue, though you couldn't hear the wind, the plane was screaming "Maximum speed" the whole time.
Yea but most jets in dcs can lose airspeed fast from 1200 to 300 in sub 30 seconds
Roger, over the last few years I've learned to judge everything by cockpit noise and ignore that shouty cockpit woman :(
@@grimreapers …Cap you need to mod it to Male Voice 😂
@@grimreapers NASA has a term for this: "the Normalization of Degradation."
Basically, you get used to ignoring alarms/danger signs which USUALLY don't mean anything. As a result, exactly the time you need to pay attention to them you're so used to ignoring them that they might as well not exist.
@@grimreapersif that women voice was my alarm clock. I'll always late for work.
an india vs china scenario would need special landscape where the minimum altitude is around 3km to model the himalayas. that might make manoeuvring difficult.
For extra challenge. model it so the minimum altitude is 7km to reflect the highest points of the himalayas.
No it won't
First fight, short range didn’t lock because you were still set to Meteor. Not the short range IR.
the Indians in the comments have been summoned!
😄
Absolutely rabid and absolutely everywhere. It's insane.
@@humpfree999 what you expect us to do when there are 1.4 billion people
@@harshyadav3644 go to comments of military videos and post an angry comment (or a supportive comment, depending on the video)
Corner store ⛳
Caucasus is a poor substitute for Himalayas which are a series of ranges separated by deep valleys
I've just spent £ 2000 to play dcs in vr because of you guys , and the wife is doing a thing with my golf clubs.
What did you get?
Well, it better be worth it then 🤏
😂😂
She is smashing up your new PC with clubs???!
@@grimreapers the chocolatey biscuits?
J10c shown here is probably j10a. J10c must have much lower rcs and much more capable than j10a.
The effect you are seeing around the aircraft is the visualisation of the transonic shock waves created by the cold dense air being compressed as you reach Mach 1 Cap. There are some photos of it online to compare it to. It's good modelling.
Unrelated to the battle, but do you guys have any intention on modeling either of the in development U.S. missiles the peregrine or the cuda, it'd be interesting to see f-35s stuffed to the gills with those tiny little buggers
Considering it.
This was a very enjoyable battle.
Had it just been the J-10Cs, Team India probably would've taken both rounds with a couple of losses but those J-20s were like total match breakers in this battle.
IRL ,India has only 36 rafales so it would have been like mostly Indian mig 21s vs 500 Chinese 🇨🇳 J10s India lacks in both quality and quantity vs plaaf
@@talhaabdullah285936 mig 21 are currently in service with 120 rafale purchase around the corner and indigenous tejas with 83+97 units ordered there would be significant improvement when the tejas mk2 and amca would join forces with the 2028 timeline also 500 j20 wont only be at india china has numerous enemies so at max 100 could be aimed at india while most would be toward south china sea
@@talhaabdullah2859 plus plaaf now has 100+ j20s
@@ALV694PLAAF has 100+J-20 "is the data from the beginning of mass production of J-20 in 2019. A spokesperson for the CN Ministry of National Defense claimed that 80+J-20 have been produced annually since 2019. The person in charge of Chengdu Aircraft Company stated that more than 450+J-20 have been produced so far. A person in charge of an air force base in Fujian Military Region revealed that there are currently more than 400 J-20 in service in the Chinese Air Force. CCTV revealed numbered photos indicating that the Chinese Air Force currently has 423 J-20 in service
Could you do a defense of gotland video where sweden and possibly finland tries to defend against russian navy and airforce?
I second this
In REAL world however, the Russians just need to wait for the LGBTQ agenda destroy those nations. Far cheaper and easier option since culture is the root of all nations.
Nice battle !😎
Really quick question. I just noticed that the mod for J10C is actually a J10A and based on the antenmna and inlet config , it might be some early to mid blocks(before 08').
So For 10C, I can see you change the new AESA with pl15 capability, but the 10C also redisgn its inlet for blocking the blade signature and the body shape and material, so compare with A which has a RCS about 2.5, the C models reduce it to less than 1(around .8 or .7 I believe? ).
Also the J10C has thrust vectoring, so it turns quicker as well in theory
It shouldn't be less than 1 as the plane still carries many missiles, and they also have radar signatures (yes the 0.5 RCS used for rafale is also way too low). Nevertheless the stated 2.5 RCS for the J-10 is indeed quite an overshoot, especially when we consider the 5 RCS of Su-30 and the 0.5 for rafale used in the simulation.
@@stefano9493 It is present on a technological demonstrator for the J-10B, but the PLAAF decided against having Thrust-Vectoring for the J-10C
In a real combat, you wouldn't even know whether there is a J20 that you cant see. The Chinese have an absolute advantage, the 'man behind the machine' is largely insignificant here.
The J-20 is not stealth. Indian Airforce have regularly detected J-20 so much that China stopped using them in Tibet.
@@SodiumSyndicate looks like you dont know Luneberg lens
@@cqccyh Looks like you don't know IRST as well as Radar Satellite.
That "thing" that happened on the third round to Cap's plane is how a sonic boom looks. You get condensation forming in the pressure wave as you hit Mach 1
i’m pretty that the people who make videos about airplanes (although digital) for a living would know what a vapor cone is
Yeh but it looks weird though didn;t it?
To me it did.
@@grimreapers yup, very weird imo 🤔
A navel battle between France and India or China vs India would be a cool video I think.
a naval battle would be a massacre. there is no ship for India or France currently in game that can match a type 50 or 45. also while at sea, there is no hard cover like mountains for Indian fighters to hide behind (if there are carriers involved) meaning that the chinese will have a turkey shoot with their longer range missiles.
france might do a bit better cos they have naval f 35 fighters but still its gonna be hard cos nothing can match the type 50 as of now
edit: France does not have any f35s, i was thinking about the british when i said that. but still, they have the rafale m which would still be able to put up a better fight than nay indian aircraft
@SHASHWAT SINGH this is why the @trap called the comments a dumpster fire. for goodness sake its VIDEO GAME!!!! whether or not china is better than india remans to be seen and that will depend on a whole host of factors. its not as clear cut as one thinks.
all i know and care about is the public road in front of my house has not been repaired in 7 years and is a mess, not whether we beat china or not.
@SHASHWAT SINGH dude he meant massacre for India. 🤦🏻♂️
@@johnbenoy7532 I don’t think French have the F-35…
@SHASHWAT SINGH B. J. P.
I. T. Cell. How much do they pay you man, Rs. 1000/day or are you with the super150. 🤡
Is there any reason why you made the J-20 a low observable and not a true stealth fighter because as far as I am aware that is its only purpose not dogfighting or anything and every military analyst if seen doesnt doubt its capabilities
the rcs of J20 is about 3.5 times bigger than F35A in X band radar
@@minitaco3367 how do you know?
@@linusrunge2678 search up aircraft 101, they simulated and compared the RCS of each 5th gen jets. i somehow cant paste the link in the comment.
@@linusrunge2678 there is also another Australian guy wrote an article about the RCS of J20, i believe hes name is Cooper
They don't. There's no way to accurately model stealth characteristics without some classified info from PLAAF
Actually you need to bring the geography into the fight as Chinese Air Force can not take off their planes with full load due to the altitude issue. So they will have only 65-70% of their weapon load while taking off.
The cows go nuts.....!!!!!!!
“Fly the German just crashed because he’s a bloody idiot”😂😂😂😂
The Mighty Dragon shows its flames!
🐉 🔥 🔥 🔥
As an Indian myself this is the most accurate representation of a fight between Indian and Chinese airforce will look like..And btw I know its not the plane its the pilot like Top gun Maverick but in reality the one with technologycal advantage always wins..Love your videos ❤
I am surprised you are not getting hate from your fellow compatriots
Because we no he/she is a Chinese stooge
@@ALV694believe me there are a lot of viewers then commenters and most people don't care. We will see the reality rather than get hyped by simulation.
Flashing LA was launch authorised had you fired it earlier u wouldn’t had to merger
Enjoying the cockpit views Rafale not bad!
No modern digital RADAR return processing system relies on doppler effect to see targets any more - in other words you cannot notch a modern system - this simplistic processing was the only way to reduce clutter in the old analogue world. Even as far back as 1993 you couldn't notch Sea Harrier's Blue Vixen with its then sophisticated digital signal processing.
"Fly" sounds like a young Dr. Strangelove
I love Fly’s voice - German accent are awesome - plus he’s critical of German planes too 😂
I'd like to see a what-if with india having SU-57s 'n SU-75s. Might be topical soonish.
Bro these guys could join the Air Force no problem 😂
Lol. This comments section is going to become a dumpsterfire real quick. Waiting on the ultranationalist Indians to get here and comment about how they have some super weapons and the Rafale is the best aircraft of all time ever etc.
Every country has its fair share of loons, but India has something special in the water.
we have a billion people. even if the number of loons we have are less than the global average, it will still be a dumpster fire. best ignore them and enjoy the video. after all its in good fun :)
Funny how you're crying more than they are lmao. Most of the time they're not wrong. I'm not even Indian and I can see many reasons why Indians would complain. Forget just DCS, they're so misrepresented almost everywhere, I see why they get pressed sometimes.
Chinese aircraft like the J-10 and J-16 are incapable of operating with a full combat load over the Himalayas. They simply cannot take off with that load, whereas Indian aircraft like the Rafale, are specifically modded for high altitude ops.
PL-15 is easily overpowered in game. It has 40nm more range than an AIM-120D, which is EXTREMELY hard to believe. I'm sure its range is much closer to 90nm, which they claim is on their export variant.
And the J-20s RCS is bugged. 0.05m2 is a joke, I've not seen even the Chinese claim that lol. 'Expert' analysts have placed it anywhere between 0.08 and 0.3m2 head on. Any other angle and it's much worse than the Rafale.
We never said we have the best weapons
@@gauravdey4163 Sure but apparently the Rafael is actually a better stealth fighter than the J20 and can simply teleport away from danger using the power of Modi Ji
@@timmyhoward6638 bruh you seems real mad!
The sim was cool, and switching the player teams did prove it to be fair. Only one thought: Indian strategists do rely on the lower range and payload capacity of the Chinese fighters owing to the relative altitudes of air bases of the two countries. Until such factors and topography is factored in, these Sims have entertainment value and may not reflect actual conditions.
I still think DCS overmodels the Russian SAM systems in the game. Especially when it comes down to them shooting down like 90%+ of missiles like HARMs and ground hugging cruise missiles. When the US has used these types on weapons in actual combat very, very few of them have ever been shot down.
Chinese anti-missile system can already intercept ballistic missiles, for subsonic harpoon, what do you think. Believe it or not, look at the performance of the s300/s400 on the Ukrainian battlefield.
And when did USA used them against modern Russian, or Chinese SAM systems? Answer is never.
@@MrCastodianyes
Cap had only Electro-optical lock so no radar guided will launch. Afaik hud says EORL or something when you have also a radarlock, atleast in the core game Flankers
Yeh looks like that what happened.
J-20s are not supposed to be used against India,as India's doesn't have any stealth aircraft it should have only been the j-10,j-11 or j-15 kind of aircraft from the Chinese side.
Plus i don't think China will directly send it's Stealth fighters to counter India near an airbase which is closer to India or a landscape where it is almost impossible to fight.
Yup, this is why India has a real problem with their current air force. Can’t buy J20’s from China, and they are starting to really distrust the US…so SU57s?
oh boy they got video of J20 fly over Tibet Plateau...
Why in the world would China not use its best fighters in a world, a fighter that gives them an edge?
Fast forward to 2024 and its 150km away from the border
"not just a bunch of polygons flying around for entertainment...
Microprose: ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED???
One critique i have for you folks, and its not just this video, you guys always abandon your AWACS. Useful or not there are two dozen souls aboard that aircraft. There is absolutely no way any modern military would sacrafice HVAA for a 3 on 3 dog fight. Love the content yall keep it coming
That’s because protecting the AWACS is VERY BORING to watch for us viewers
Su 30 & 34 my favorite jets/bomber 🎉
Never forget the hidden part of the warfare, and that is LOGISTIC issue. Assuming India is able to survive the onslaught, can their multi nations imported spare parts able to be replace on time, compare China where most of their spare parts are locally manufactured.
很遺憾沒有考慮到中國目前在喜馬拉雅地區大量裝備的KJ500預警機，實際情況是J10c只需要發射導彈，之後就可以撤離交戰空域，由預警機負責引導導彈攻擊目標，今年KJ3000也將裝備在此地區。
放P，KJ3000是什么鬼？
Modern AWACS is overpowered. All China has to do is protect their AWACS with their stealth fighters and use their jets as missile trucks. India doesn’t have anything that can counter this strategy. India is pretty far outclassed here.
@@hamstermomoco 空警3000，原型機已經在飛了，可以自行尋找試飛照，運20機身，共形天綫。
@@damainhe9653 如果你停止泄露信息给印度人的话,我考虑给你点个赞.
@@damainhe9653 删了
Yeah, as said before, at max speed your turn radius is huge, Entered the merge too fast, enables Simba to turn inside and go offensive.
Simba Barimba.
Just resubscribed to you because youtube decided i shouldn't be.
Yes it does that doesn't it...
ON the Rafale HUD, what's the purple clock dial thing? Great job as always Cap!
Not sure.
@@grimreapers ..it changes the color of missile smoke 😂
Dear indians what happened to rafaels against j10?? You gor a lot of money to burn but pakistan have lot of talent to humble u
why pakis r happy on chinese win? is chinise your abbu?
Capt was you trying to throw the missile too fast - you know the meteor can be a bitch?
Yeh, turns out it doesn't like being lobbed at Mach 1.8...
Love the after game commentary too :)
I think for a future video an interesting idea would be using the indigenous Astra missile for the Sukhoi 30 MKI or:
The Astra MK II meant as a response to the AIM 120D and PL 15 ( 160+km range)
The Astra MK III ( Indian Meteor with 300km+ range)
Don't be shy. You can say 3000km. It is only on PPT anyway.
@@easonhuang7117 3000kms would be near impossible for a missile of today's generation. 300km is achievable though as the supposed R37M has shown in Ukraine according to sources. The Astra MK III claims to be able to do something similar and reach out that far.
Only Astra Mk1 in service. No point in using variants not yet in service because the public specifications are not reliable at sll until seen in use.
They said in the video that they don’t have a game model for any Astra yet.
@@vector8877 missiles like the R37M had very low pk even against the Ukrainian jets with poor rwr fired at max range, kind of a success getting a hit or two i guess. Excellent missiles against awacs tho when we don't consider the EW packages with awacs.
pffffff. im indian and even i lolled at those ranges.
the US aim 260 d( which has just finished development) has a range of 140 km declared. the astra is worse than the meteor with a max range of 70 km (DRDO managed to hit a target at 73km with the astra mk 1 a). the astra mark 2 (which will be in service by only 2024) will have a disclosed range of 120 km. meanwhile the pl 15 which was introduced in 2015 has a range of atleast 120 km.
also your claim on a 300 km air to air missile is a load of crap. have you seen a long range sam? the s400 with has roughly 400 km of range has a missile larger than the su 30. the bhramos despite being as long as the entire plane only has a 250km range. the soviet r37 ultra long range missile has about 170 km range (but it can barely maneuver and was designed to hit slowmoving bombers).
as long as some now revolutionary tech is undiscovered, it wont be easy for to break the 200 km effective range barrier and nearly impossible for india.
Matrix always assuming the calling out of enemy movement is strangely assuring.
If not a bit overkill imo…a bit too much chatter
Simba dodged a missile now? Dang.
Great fight. I would like to see how other jet fighters would do in this region
This is j-10A, not j-10c
We've modded them up to J-10C standard with AESA radar and missiles.
j10A can't fire PL15
High mountain ranges would yield destruction of fighter and other aircrafts more due to terrain than any enemy actions. It would be end of air force actions in high Himalayas.
Oh, interesting mix. Gonna get interesting quick.
* enters comments, puts on helmet... *
Good proof of concept fights. 👍Thanks
Let's see Israel support India and Pakistan support China for a more diverse and kick ass future battles!👍
India vs China => time to buy a lot of chips and beer.
Yes, but does India have any full stealth planes in service?
@@dexlab7539amca & amca mkii
I wonder if there would be a remote GCI at a central base that would have AWACS data and data-link. You could have almost personalized SA coordinators for each aircraft in a theater, could yall try to simulate something like that?
Some of these modded aircraft have comically loud cockpit audio, it's like there is no canopy or helmet at all
Yup incredibly annoying.
For the sake of fairness, or lack there of, I think China should had J-16 instead of J-10C.
Should have large numbers of both. Flanker variants and J-10 variants are their most numerous fighters in service.
@@stupidburp you are right, although IRL, there is more J16 and J11B deployed near india than J10 variants.
@@stupidburp But given the shorter range of J-10s and shortage of airfields near the China-India border, the most likely opponent of IAF are flankers.
I am quite entertained, thank you ☺
Edit: ALL of you 😉
You know is interesting that seeing 2nd tier Indian millitary power always trying to compare with us. I mean please try to figure out make your own toys instead of buying them from other daddies first.
I have watched every upload on Rumble.
You are a true Hero!
Look at you ‘doing a thing’ great job!
Cap, in the first round when Simba fired on the AWACS, wouldn't the AWACS immediately detect the missile, approximate location from where it was fired and notifiy you guys? That way you would know Simba was out over the water. Or is the simulator not set up that way?
yes BUT AWACS in game has basically zero intelligence. WOn;t even defend itself.
..think of the AWACS defense as the same as a Chinese Balloon
The primary purpose of the j20 is to shoot down high value military assets. Even if you can spot missiles, it is very difficult to detect the location of the j20. Dog fights rarely happen in reality.
The J-20 can’t be 0.05m^2, some people will argue that the canards damage the stealth, that’s simply not true. For reference the NGAD also has canards
Loved the video @Grim Reapers! Can't wait for the next video man! The Rafale, Su-30MKI, J-10C and J-20 look pretty good but it's usually a combination of Numbers as well as Training and How Advanced the Equipment is.
India: 36 Rafales (28 Single Seaters and 8 Twin Seaters) and 272 Su-30MKI's (with 12 more ordered).
China: 180+ J-10C's and 208+ J-20's as of 2022.
So China has the Advantage in Numbers and Technology for the Most Part so a War Between China and India would end up coming down to How much in terms of Military Aid India's Allies can Bring, the United States likely Shipping Further Supplies of Various Ordinance to India. This, however, can easily be Negated because of the Fact that PZMC (in China) is the World's Leading Manufacturer of the Ship-to-Shore Cranes that you see at the Harbours around the World. These Cranes arrive Ready to be Installed and have an Uplink which apparently can be used to Monitor What gets moved to Which part of the World and Because they're made in China, the Chinese Government can (and Almost Certainly will) punch in a Kill code and render every last Crane Inoperable or make them a Workplace Hazard. The FBI recently Boarded one of the Vessels used to Carry these Massive Cranes to the Harbor in the Chesapeake Bay while it was waiting for the Tide to come down far Enough that it could proceed under the Bay Bridge and made a Detailed Study of the Crane onboard.
Thoughts on that anyone?
No thats not the case, you need to understand the geography of China first..
80% of their assets are on Eastern side of China where 90% of Chinese population lives as the Tibet is uninhabitable cuz of its elevation nd weather nd leads to problems in transportation of logistics..
Also there main threats are 5000km away from Indian boarders like Taiwan, Japan, Usa, Korea, Philippines nd other south China sea countries..
There is also very limited no of Airports in Tibet cuz of elevation so that many aircraft can never be deployed..
They also face a bigger issue due to flying from higher altitude as aircraft can't carry optimul payload which also decrease the range cuz the performance of engines drop significantly..
While for India the Himalayas end there so there are less elevation nd flat plains starts nd there are 100s of airports, Delhi itself is like 600km from the border itself..
Nd all of India assets are on north cuz its surrounded by ocean on other 3 sides...
@@ajju2666 Yup you are about right.
Forget ballistic missiles, if there is a real war, China's 500 km range rockets are cheap and useful, the air force is just clearing the battlefield.
@@ajju2666 80% of their assets are in East because there is no war in the west, if war would start 80% would be in west…
And Chinas logistic are by faar larger and better then India’s, they have better infrastructure in all aspects and way more assets dedicated to logistic.
And in a war with India, India is the threat, not USA or Japan because non of them would start a war with China over a war with India, India is nOT an Allie of them and they do not starts war with nation like China for that sake.
And an military airport are built in a few days, China are extremely good in that area, even a nation like India will build an airport in a week, China are experts, they are even faster.
And I believe I answered you earlier over the altitude issue, if not, here is another answer.
“Hot and High” is a real condition as you say, It’s a condition of low air density due to high ambient temperature and high airport elevation.
Air density decreases with increasing temperature and altitude. The lower air density reduces the power output from the aircraft's engine and also requires a higher true airspeed before the aircraft can become airborne.
BUT, it’s not an issue for military fighters, in order to neglect this condition you Inject distilled water into the engine compressor or combustor. The primary purpose of water injection into jet engines is to increase the mass being accelerated, thereby increasing the force created by the engine.
And by doing that you can take off with full weapon and fuel load.
This is done all over the world, including in India.
As an example, during the gulf war USA did this from Saudi Arabia, thousands of sorties in a week, in this conditions, with max load.
Why Su30mki didn't have Astra?
Because astra mk1 is obsolete when compared with iderby er, aim120d
@@aurodeeproy997 I derby was giving only 55 miles range here which is less than Astra
@@direwolf7491 thats probably just derby. Iderby is dual pulse, its out of the astra, r77, sd10 league.
@@aurodeeproy997 yeah so astra would have been a better option here
@@direwolf7491 astra is a single pulse missile. Its obsolete in front of iderby er, aim120ds. Its like comparing 80s tech with 2000s tech.
How accurate is your Rafale modeling? Does it take into account electronic warfare? During the Libyan operation Rafale jets evaded all radars and missile defense systems. It has conducted missions around the world and never been shot down
Was thinking the same thing. The electronics, in particular ECM I’m assuming real world are superior in the French jet vs Russian and Chinese. But obviously a simulation can only go so far and know so much. Additionally the biggest factor in any engagement which can’t be factored is individual pilot skill. Indian pilots train with their USAF counterparts, not sure how many hours the average Chinese pilot manages per year and what their training looks like but I’d venture to guess nothing to brag about. They certainly have no real world experience like the rest of their military.
@@debratakahara2494 Everyone forgets the fact that China spends only second to the US for their military and assumes no flight hours or insufficient training when they clearly have enough equipment and budget needed to keep up with training. Secondly, China also trains with Russian counterparts and they do not lack any expertise with ECM either. if you want to see them as the enemy then treat them as such and do not overlook their capabilities.
@@moe_is_justice8559 They have largest military so most of that budget goes into paying salary. But I agree you shouldn't underestimate the enemy.
@@direwolf7491 Yes, most of the budget goes on wages and only a small part of the budget builds 200 J20s and 450 warships and aircraft carriers
In Libya an old Spitfire could evade radars because the most modern radar and SAM Libya had were from the 60s
And what mission have Rafale done that were against an enemy with air defence assets? Never.
No no. Its more of j16 and j10 vs su mki and raphael
wont change much imo. the ability to hide behind the mountains negates most of the missile advantages of both sides and it will go down to pilot skill. even then, the pl 15 has more range so it will be able to punish a mistake more effectively.
thought pl15 was only for awacs because its not manueverable
Nice shot Cap with meteor!
Yeah got me ride before that Valley where I wanted to hide
I did a thing!
Shouldn't force feedback help with judging speed when turning, or don't you use a stick with ffb?
Most sticks don’t have it
@@Utubesuperstar witch is a bs market, since that was a good feature at just above the monetary entry point. Unlike the 200 $+ ones of today.
Interesting concept
Can u do a combat between su30mki vs j10c
again depends on many factors. is an AWACS in play? will it take place over the Himalayas where the planes can hide effectively or will it be over the open sea? which missiles will they use? will it be AI or humans?
depending on these factors, unless the battle is fought over some form of natural cover (so the mki can hide itself until it gets in range) and is flown by a human, it is a slam dunk for the j10. the j10 is smaller, carries a similar amount of better missiles compared to the mki and has a better rate of turn.
the mki has a better electronic warfare suite, has longer endurance (thanks to the dual piloted cockpit), better high altitude maneuverability (thanks to the thrust vectoring) and maybe a slightly better radar?
at least in this simulation and in most real life situations, the longer range your missile has (and radar) that fighter will win.
This was it. As close as they can probably do with currently available models.
India’s Su-30 would have Astra in real life which would help but their networking is not great and might not get target data from other aircraft.
China’s PLAAF Flankers have more capable components installed and they have 3x more of them.
J-10C is a notch below Rafale but they have hundreds of them VS just a few dozen IAF Rafale.
I wish the best to the IAF. They are in for some tough fights as soon as it goes hot.
@@stupidburp I think it would've been awesome for the IAF if MBDA had agreed to install the Meteors on the MKIs(literally) but yeah Astra MK IIIs and IIs will have to serve I guess
The Indians in the comments section seem to not believe this fact and are trying to find more successful disciplines.😂
I don't Understand Why DCS Doesn't have J10c these are the old J10 A which Different then J10c there Nose amd Air intake are different then J10 Block C....
Everyone get Simba or you dead lol.
It’s a great DAY!
My God
Was waiting for this for so long
Great video (as always) 😊
What came to my mind .. is Chaff / Window / Confetti not used anymore to distract / fool radar?
This is a war in that shots have already been fired...
J-10s and Rafales are so small compared to the other planes
Yup. Small has some uses.
I am doing well thanks for asking.have you looked in to float plane for a place to upload your videos it’s owned by lmg and is supposed to be great I don’t really know how it works it’s just another place that you could upload
J 10c best
India mostly uses modernized mig 29, rafale and Mirage in Himalayas against china
Pls do a colander with growling sidewinder
Sorry but I am not willing to start scripting the battle's outcomes. Not what I want to do.
@@grimreapers Agreed! GS videos are BORING because he scripts them…never do that Cap
I never add a comment but this time. I think it's time I've been asking. If germany can protect the fulda gap from Russia today
thx
Interesting to see Chinese able to take off with a full load from those forward Tibetan plateaus 😂😂😂😂
How do i get that scoreboard in the top right of your screen?
It's a private GR mod, sorry.
Nice video! Always enjoy the content. Please keep it up...😄
Which side won? wanting to see an comment war here soon
Hey cap!could you do a sim,but represent RMAF SU-30MKM and legacy hornets,against chinese jets?thank you🎉
Pretty sure RMAF sukhois aren't any different than all the sukhoi variants (and yes I know it has some western avionics, but its not really that "unique" either)
@@zebimicio5204 was just curious though,
Su30MKMs aren't much different than the su 30 MKI as the MKM is a derivative of the MKI with different Avionics
Awww you listened! Thank you are the best!
Please can we have a larger mission, with mostly AI.. India playing point defense and China's mission to destroy a base, land based cruise missiles, airstrike. S 400 , keep everyone in mountains and let the better pilots win..
India would rely upon optical sensors and long range fox 2s.. All of India's fighter have long range fox 2.. Sukhoi, mig29s run latest version of R 27(bought in 2020), IR derbies as well, suppose to be pretty good.. rafales, mirage have mica IR.. big advantage in mountain air battle.. We do have a few not so covert foxbats in our inventory as well, if u wanna R37 awacs..
India game plan has always been mid range optic IR based fights..
Awesome simulation!
India has only 36 rafales they will be mostly using the mig21s in a pitched battle and the flankers
Mig21s by the time of your comment was already retired. there is a squadron placed near the himalayas
the fact that the j20 can b detected so easily, should tell us everything about its ability. apparently even the su57's stealth is the same as the j20
Its not really that easy, but stealth planes can be spotted. they arent invincible
J-10C's RCS should be better than Rafale
Great battle
It should have been Tejas instead of Su-30s. Then it would have properly been fight between the deltas. Instead it was fight between the canards.😋
Su 30s are the backbone fighters of IAF which can Carry lot of payload and very agile in dogfights. Main point of this simulation was to show how a confrontation would have played out. And also Nobody has made mods of Tejas i guess.
Are you for real???? Su-30 MKI is more advanced than Tejas, particularly for BVR combat. Tejas is not very advanced, it's just late to the party and new. It has a weaker engine, so will have issues with high altitude and long range. Won't be any use in this scenario, and would be no match against J10 and J20. Rafale and Su30 are best options. Tejas is best suited for short range interception, and ground attack, and maybe dog fights against other 4th Gen fighters.
@@daakudaddy5453 Did you even read my comment???
Useless RUclips won't let me watch in 720 without buffering... Guess I'll just have to wait till it's loaded to Rumble.
Damn CAP can't fire a fox-2 in WR......SAD
In real life, it would be all J-20s. No need to send a J-10 at all.
SU30MKI will also have Astra mk1.
I think they only have 200 J-20's to protect entire of China.
@@grimreapers I think China's J-20 in Xinjiang and Tibet will not be less than 50.
…actually the J10 make great bait for the J20s to kill them
@@grimreapersthen how many j20 do you think they need Sherlock ?
What's your educational background ?
Just to get some sympathy & views from the overproud & big-mouth lame Indians, you have created this video ?
& Please don't worry about China & their fighter jet fleets.
They have indigenously built engine, & plethora of fighter jets to choose from.
As far as no go, currently they have 200+ j20 & estimated 500+ till 2026, j35 their another variant of 5th gen jet is also near completion, tho this is an export version, but they will also add in very good number in coming years.
In other hand there's your superpower India, who has also indigenously built fighter jets ranging from 4th 5th to even 6th gen but only in PowerPoint presentation.
Curry head you better be busy in your dream & imagination rather than talk shit in jealousy for others.
Think India would give China a good fight initially, but as China's apparent ability to churn out military equipment as fast as Greggs turn out sausage rolls😂, I'd give China the edge!
Not in real life though.
you watched too much bolllywood
India noob
@@zeusradeon4533 hollywood cartoon assholleee
@@minus21334 and you watch too much small dock chinese porrnnn
I was just wondering if either Chinese aircraft and missiles have seen any battles?? Any credibility..so it's just a figment of imagination ..I'm not being biased but Indian Equipment and tech is battle tested..