yeah it sucks because I do, for example, think the F16 is an awesome jet and Ive loved the Blue Angls (F18s) since I was a child, but it sucks seeing every server full of nothing but F-16, F-18, an occasion F-15, and F-14s. I absolutely love the flankers and will be picking the JF-17 up to be able to keep up with the modern BLUEFOR jets. unfortunately until the su-27SM or su-35 or something comes out, all the other REDFOR jets struggle so bad these days
If Ive seen this video before buying the f-16 as my first module i would have 100% bought this instead, the weapons it can carry seems waaay better than the f-16 for A-G while still beeing able to stand its ground for A-A. Probably will be my next module, ty for the video!
@@Ayden_oh_no Yeah but it lowkey feels a bit limited on what it can achieve for A-G due to its fuel capacity and variety of weapons it can use (personally it probably is because i love laser guided rockets)
Jf17 thunder jet fighter is the correct need for Pakistan, it does the work requirement for the needs of Pakistan regarding its geographical location and the defence needs are fully met by the Jf17 thunder fighter jet that's why this plane is most suitable from any other fighter jet
The JF-17 Thunder is a wonderful platform and it is picking up steam really quickly due to its versatility and affordability. Pakistan has one of the best airforce in the world. When their pilots loved this platform so much, then you know you can't go wrong with it. They have flown Russian, Chinese and Western jets so they are extremely qualified and people take their words and opinions seriously.
Good video but one correction, PL-5 has a few variants, the -5B/C are closer to AIM-9D/G while the PL-5EII is closer to the AIM-9L/M and is by design all aspect 👍have a good day.
This seems to be a decently modern, effective, and pretty cost-effective jet. It can wreak havoc on the enemy if the air superiority is achieved by high-end jets.
I think you missing with the ls-6 bombs might have been because you didn't align them. I had the same issue until I realized that they have a 3 minute alignment time once they're switched on, you can see the timer under the HSD on the right screen. Great video tho!
I beleive at the time they were aligned, just talking about previous experience they don't like extreme angle deployment parameters. Great bombs when they are deployed correctly.
Asides from the systems flow the weapons variety and capabilities really make this jet stand out. The SD-10s, LD-10S, LS bombs and laser rockets are gorgeous. The LGBs are good too.
Pro tip: Unless you are certain you will be aerial refueling it is best to forgo the probe. You can achieve higher mach numbers without the probe as well as burn a tiny bit less fuel.
Hi I am Your New Subscriber Please Please I want more & More JF17 of BLOCK 3 & 2 versions Episode's Like wise JF 17 Blk 3 / 2 Vs F16s Blk 50/52 JF 17 Blk 3/2 Vs. Tejas Fighter JF17 Blk 2/3. Vs. Mig 21 JF17s Blk 2/3 Vs. Mirages 2000 That will Increase Your Subscriber In a Verry Fast Paste From Pakistan 🇵🇰 & India and Bangladesh Our Subcontinent People's loves to See these Kind of Stuff... Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰
This comment is for myself: Hello future Jason, you are here again because you've forgotten what that cluster bomb is called that you like to use. Its the GBU6-SFW
Pakistan Airforce have one of the best fighter jet in the world the jf17 thunder, no other fighter jet can match the effectiveness of this fighter plane
@@zuliali8098 f15,f16,f18,su27/30/35,eurofighter typhoon,rafale,gripen. Don’t get me wrong the jf17 is a wonderful bird, but it was designed to be a more affordable and some corners had to be cut. But for it’s price it gets the job done wonderfully.
Some facts about JF17 - 1) Dubai 2021, LIMA 2019, Bahrain 2016. Each time the Indian Tejas participated in an air show, the Pakistani team cancelled their JF17 participation, ceded participation fee and ran away 2) The manufacturing country China does not use jf17 and only exports it to poor countries 3) Even after buying 150 of these jf17 the Pakistan Air Force still relies mainly on their old American f16 and has also started buying Chinese J10 fighter, acknowledging their dissatisfaction with this junk jf17 4) The jf17 block 1 and 2 do not have AESA radar, no in flight refueling, only two dimensional fly by wire, all metal body causing high weight, low thurst weight ratio, older electronics and only Chinese weapons to fire 5) The new block 3 jf17 variant has a cheaper air cooled AESA radar unable to operate at max power and hence lower range. Further, block 3 retains the same old Russian rd93 based engines, uses pod based electronic warfare as well as same metal body and cheap build quality as older block 1 & 2 6) JF17 does not have sensor fusion capability and nor any active/shape stealth features to cater to the advancements in technology for going beyond the fourth generation of fighter aircrafts 7) The all metal airframe has poor manufacturing quality resulting in an availability of approx 40% for Pakistan Air Force The performance and reliability of jf17 is so bad that both export customers, Myanmar as well as Nigeria air forces have grounded this aircraft The availability numbers of Pakistani jf17 are mostly hidden by Pakistan Air Force, but Myanmar and Nigerian air forces are more vocal about their dissatisfaction. These have been detailed in pentapostagma as well as irrawaddy 8) Contrary to this, the Indian Air Force is impressed with the performance numbers of their baseline Tejas variant over the past four years, so much so that they have placed orders for 83 additional Tejas aircraft in improved mk1a configuration and ordering another lot of 97 more Tejas fighters 9) The Tejas aircraft is also evolving further with the mk2 variant as well as a naval variant called TEDBF, both of which incorporate sensor fusion and more fifth generation technologies
Great bird in dcs tho, and the engines are based of the rd33, the ones used in the MiG 29😉. If I’m not mistaken the block 3 gets a 3 axis fbw, and irst, it also uses more composite material reducing weight as you mentioned, and it also gets the ws 13 engine increasing thrust. Honestly not bad for a bird built to be affordable among the 4th gens
As you said the hal tejas is simply superior to the jf17 but considering the shitty situation of Pakistan they didn’t do a half bad job at making an affordable fighter. And also from what I can gather, Nigeria didn’t have any complaints about the jf17, only Myanmar did
With structural deficiencies causing an availability rate below 40% even the Chinese don’t use it and only export to poor countries. The pakistan Air Force is already feeling the pain of maintaining this useless junk but poor guys are not allowed to speak out for fear of negative public reaction However the Malaysians have no such qualms and already complaining to the Pakistanis about structural issues with this junk There are reports in pentapostgama as well as Irrawaddy detailing the extent of these problems Edit:- 1) I meant Myanmar and not Malaysia 2) Myanmar has grounded its entire fleet of jf17 due to maintenance and safety concerns
@@MuhammadIsmail-in6vfas I have updated, I meant Myanmar and not Malaysia. Further, both export customers of jf17 Myanmar as well as Nigeria have grounded their entire fleets of jf17 due to maintenance and safety issues
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Probably the most underrated module we have in DCS.
i love jeff it's super versatile
I think the reason it is so unpopular is because everyone is so into american exceptionalism that they are blind to anything else
Well I mean alot of the player base is American I think
Fuel, speed, multi role capability…..
Ok and maybe a little that it’s not american
@@Ayden_oh_no Im American too but I like to wonder what is outside the box, its strange to me that I am the only one who wants to know
@@ImJiomGood man
yeah it sucks because I do, for example, think the F16 is an awesome jet and Ive loved the Blue Angls (F18s) since I was a child, but it sucks seeing every server full of nothing but F-16, F-18, an occasion F-15, and F-14s. I absolutely love the flankers and will be picking the JF-17 up to be able to keep up with the modern BLUEFOR jets. unfortunately until the su-27SM or su-35 or something comes out, all the other REDFOR jets struggle so bad these days
If Ive seen this video before buying the f-16 as my first module i would have 100% bought this instead, the weapons it can carry seems waaay better than the f-16 for A-G while still beeing able to stand its ground for A-A. Probably will be my next module, ty for the video!
F-16 is defentley its own beast with a much heavier payload, the jf17 is like a more modern lightweight alternative
@@Ayden_oh_no Yeah but it lowkey feels a bit limited on what it can achieve for A-G due to its fuel capacity and variety of weapons it can use (personally it probably is because i love laser guided rockets)
Fuel on the JF-17 isn't amazing either but your right about laser-guided rockets, one of the more fun weapons @@Katerinuuu
Jf17 thunder jet fighter is the correct need for Pakistan, it does the work requirement for the needs of Pakistan regarding its geographical location and the defence needs are fully met by the Jf17 thunder fighter jet that's why this plane is most suitable from any other fighter jet
The JF-17 Thunder is a wonderful platform and it is picking up steam really quickly due to its versatility and affordability. Pakistan has one of the best airforce in the world. When their pilots loved this platform so much, then you know you can't go wrong with it. They have flown Russian, Chinese and Western jets so they are extremely qualified and people take their words and opinions seriously.
I would love this kind of video for other modules... very interesting and condensed.
Good video but one correction, PL-5 has a few variants, the -5B/C are closer to AIM-9D/G while the PL-5EII is closer to the AIM-9L/M and is by design all aspect 👍have a good day.
This seems to be a decently modern, effective, and pretty cost-effective jet. It can wreak havoc on the enemy if the air superiority is achieved by high-end jets.
what are you talking about? With 4 mounted SD-10s you achieve air superiority with THIS jet
Great vid! I'd love you to do this for other DCS modules you own, fantastic, really enjoyed!
DCS can make JF17 defeat F35 and F22.
that's the ultimate beauty of DCS
Yeah i love this plane.
I think you missing with the ls-6 bombs might have been because you didn't align them. I had the same issue until I realized that they have a 3 minute alignment time once they're switched on, you can see the timer under the HSD on the right screen. Great video tho!
I beleive at the time they were aligned, just talking about previous experience they don't like extreme angle deployment parameters. Great bombs when they are deployed correctly.
Jeff gaming.
Its a shame that this beautiful aircraft is kinda outshadowed by the F16 since DEKA did an amazing job modeling its systems
Jf17 thunder jet fighter is one of the best fighter plane in the world 🌎 insha ALLAH
I love this plane!
Really cool video man keep it up 🙌🏾
great stuff! thx mate! like your style!
i don't know why but i love long range munitions such as glidebomb's cruise missiles and stuff. and this aircraft makes my dreams come true
Love from pakistan
i remembered the SD10s being funnily OP before some "adjustment" by ED
oh those going SD are deadly
the g pull on them is too much
Asides from the systems flow the weapons variety and capabilities really make this jet stand out.
The SD-10s, LD-10S, LS bombs and laser rockets are gorgeous. The LGBs are good too.
Well, at least someone decided to run with the F-5/F-20 to see how far it could go.
jf 17 looks like mig 21 with new cockpit and wings
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Pro tip: Unless you are certain you will be aerial refueling it is best to forgo the probe. You can achieve higher mach numbers without the probe as well as burn a tiny bit less fuel.
How?
@@jacobdoolan4978 the probe creates drag and adds weight. therefore it slows you down and makes you less fuel efficient
I think somebody is upset 😂
thx man great video
Just like chuck's guide, this video seams to miss out on the LS-6-100's. Not sure if they were added after this video and chuck's guide were finished.
Great video! You should do the same about the other modules!
Hi I am Your New Subscriber Please Please I want more & More JF17 of BLOCK 3 & 2 versions Episode's Like wise
JF 17 Blk 3 / 2 Vs F16s Blk 50/52
JF 17 Blk 3/2 Vs. Tejas Fighter
JF17 Blk 2/3. Vs. Mig 21
JF17s Blk 2/3 Vs. Mirages 2000
That will Increase Your Subscriber In a Verry Fast Paste From Pakistan 🇵🇰 & India and Bangladesh Our Subcontinent People's loves to See these Kind of Stuff...
Love from Pakistan 🇵🇰
This comment is for myself: Hello future Jason, you are here again because you've forgotten what that cluster bomb is called that you like to use. Its the GBU6-SFW
This is the funniest comment that I’ve personally witnessed on RUclips. Thank you.
dobar visenamjenski avion vrijedi ga kupiti 😉😉🤗🤗
for a challenger, the BRM is not quite enough, you might need to fire 4 or so.
3:12 that means that is anti radar?
The cannon isnt your fault, its tilted bit downward :D to target ground units instead of A2A combat sadly hence alot of people are just bad with it
Can you make this playlist for dcs
Do u have any video like this about harrier
You missed the other capabilities, like GMTI, MAWS, DSTs, landing mode, DTC, the SPJ, TA mode on the radar, etc.
Requires to much brain power, wont do It
@@Ayden_oh_no and one of my favorites, the HSD - it mixes the RWR with the HSD, so you get a full view from one screen...
@@Ayden_oh_nobased chad
Thunder is a pretty decent fighter. 👌
Pakistan Airforce have one of the best fighter jet in the world the jf17 thunder, no other fighter jet can match the effectiveness of this fighter plane
Bro as a Pakistani I would say it is no match for the 5 th generation fighter jets
@Abdullah-xb1if regarding the 4th generation jet fighter, the jf 17 thunder jet fighter plane is the best fighter plane in the world 🌎
@@zuliali8098 f15,f16,f18,su27/30/35,eurofighter typhoon,rafale,gripen. Don’t get me wrong the jf17 is a wonderful bird, but it was designed to be a more affordable and some corners had to be cut. But for it’s price it gets the job done wonderfully.
so, no fox 1? sad
is LCA TAJAS IS IN dcs
Not yet as far as I know. I don't think Indian government will allow modeling of it.
they need to put it on sale 50 off just as ED does.
Yeah 30% off is all we get for the time being, hopefully sometime later this year they drop it further
pl 15
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Some facts about JF17 -
1) Dubai 2021, LIMA 2019, Bahrain 2016. Each time the Indian Tejas participated in an air show, the Pakistani team cancelled their JF17 participation, ceded participation fee and ran away
2) The manufacturing country China does not use jf17 and only exports it to poor countries
3) Even after buying 150 of these jf17 the Pakistan Air Force still relies mainly on their old American f16 and has also started buying Chinese J10 fighter, acknowledging their dissatisfaction with this junk jf17
4) The jf17 block 1 and 2 do not have AESA radar, no in flight refueling, only two dimensional fly by wire, all metal body causing high weight, low thurst weight ratio, older electronics and only Chinese weapons to fire
5) The new block 3 jf17 variant has a cheaper air cooled AESA radar unable to operate at max power and hence lower range. Further, block 3 retains the same old Russian rd93 based engines, uses pod based electronic warfare as well as same metal body and cheap build quality as older block 1 & 2
6) JF17 does not have sensor fusion capability and nor any active/shape stealth features to cater to the advancements in technology for going beyond the fourth generation of fighter aircrafts
7) The all metal airframe has poor manufacturing quality resulting in an availability of approx 40% for Pakistan Air Force
The performance and reliability of jf17 is so bad that both export customers, Myanmar as well as Nigeria air forces have grounded this aircraft
The availability numbers of Pakistani jf17 are mostly hidden by Pakistan Air Force, but Myanmar and Nigerian air forces are more vocal about their dissatisfaction. These have been detailed in pentapostagma as well as irrawaddy
8) Contrary to this, the Indian Air Force is impressed with the performance numbers of their baseline Tejas variant over the past four years, so much so that they have placed orders for 83 additional Tejas aircraft in improved mk1a configuration and ordering another lot of 97 more Tejas fighters
9) The Tejas aircraft is also evolving further with the mk2 variant as well as a naval variant called TEDBF, both of which incorporate sensor fusion and more fifth generation technologies
Still great in DCS
Great bird in dcs tho, and the engines are based of the rd33, the ones used in the MiG 29😉. If I’m not mistaken the block 3 gets a 3 axis fbw, and irst, it also uses more composite material reducing weight as you mentioned, and it also gets the ws 13 engine increasing thrust. Honestly not bad for a bird built to be affordable among the 4th gens
As you said the hal tejas is simply superior to the jf17 but considering the shitty situation of Pakistan they didn’t do a half bad job at making an affordable fighter. And also from what I can gather, Nigeria didn’t have any complaints about the jf17, only Myanmar did
I think usa should hire thiss guy . He can bulf 10 gen jet for usa . Great engineer 🎉
@@usman.khalid46 Funnily enough that what I plan to do after I graduate lol
Poor fighter jets JF 17 from China,😂
Very right think has multiple enmeies and haters
Still shot down two Indian fighter jets in2019
@@Abdullah-xb1ifit was actually 1 jet and it was a MiG 21….
only one mig was shotdown and the scond jet which was shot down was your f 16@@Abdullah-xb1if
the US inquiry found that all of the Pakistanis F-16s were accounted for buddy
With structural deficiencies causing an availability rate below 40% even the Chinese don’t use it and only export to poor countries. The pakistan Air Force is already feeling the pain of maintaining this useless junk but poor guys are not allowed to speak out for fear of negative public reaction
However the Malaysians have no such qualms and already complaining to the Pakistanis about structural issues with this junk
There are reports in pentapostgama as well as Irrawaddy detailing the extent of these problems
Edit:-
1) I meant Myanmar and not Malaysia
2) Myanmar has grounded its entire fleet of jf17 due to maintenance and safety concerns
malaysia never bought jf worry about your samosas
What about your junk samosas it take 20 years to only pass propotype fase still cant fly. 😂😂😂.
An Indian I see? Truly the most populous people in the world 😂😂 tell me do y’all do anything other than hate??
@@MuhammadIsmail-in6vfas I have updated, I meant Myanmar and not Malaysia. Further, both export customers of jf17 Myanmar as well as Nigeria have grounded their entire fleets of jf17 due to maintenance and safety issues
@@mustafatariq1909same old paxtani, unable to take any criticism and start crying hatred 😭😭😭