Great RUclips video and channel but I found the background music was way too loud. I would strongly suggest you lower it or even better get rid of it altogether. I firmly believe that background music is distracting, annoying, and unnecessary (especially for educational videos with lots of talking). I also believe that people want to hear you speak/get information and not hear generic background music that doesn't really add anything useful and that people have to mentally filter out. Plus it will be one less thing you will have to do when making videos.
Fun fact: the Black Templars exceeding a 1000 marines is entirely codex compliant due to a little loophole in the codex that stipulates that a chapter may exceed the standard 1000 marines if they are in the midst of a crusade, which the Black Templars have been on for the past 10,000 years. So yeah, Black Templars are a totally codex compliant chapter.
I sometimes wonder in the present time if Roboute Gulliman viewed this loophole being abused as either a wise innovation or a shadow of rebellion. The Black Templars otherwise however was like, not really codex-positive. Of course part of that could just be memes but yeah.
"The legions must be broken up into small chapters so no one man holds too much military power." -Robute Gulliman, owner of pretty much the entire eastern Imperium.
@@thechriscrowing Fair, but it still doesn't excuse the hypocrisy of forcing his brothers to split up their armies while Gulliman still keeps his personal 500 planet empire, effectively ensuring the Ultramarines and their successors are always better supplied than everyone else.
'Hurl yourselves at these walls, inhuman filth! Die on our blades! I am Grimaldus of the BLack Templars, and I will cast your carcasses from these holy walls!'
They may not be daddy Dorn's favorite, but there's something to said about giving your slightly off kilter kids the keys to your second most tricked out ride (the Eternal Crusader) and telling them to go do what they do best with it.
@ Huntermad Perhaps his anger at the traitors caused him to see things from the Black Templars’ point of view and appreciate what they bring to the table more.
I love how the book states the Black Templars came to Armageddon with almost a full chapter’s worth of Astartes. Everyone was too happy for the extra Astartes to question how they had that many in the area while still supposedly having other crusades ongoing.
The beauty of the black templar is that they are the closest and farthest thing from the ideal space marine chapter at the same time. They did not adopt Girlyman's codex (which is something that the Emperor would approve) but they are a bunch of religious fanatics almost on the level of Lorgar and the Word Bearers (which we know the Emperor hated). They reject A LOT of the Emperor's ideals but they are the only chapter that still follows the crusade.
They're one of the few chapters that worship the Emperor as God, something the Emperor was very much against. Hell, He sanctioned against Word Bearers for worshiping Him.
@@dyingearth honestly while the religion was an issue it was mainly the Word bearers being the slowest legion in the great Crusade due to spreading religion to conquered worlds and restoring which take time
He never said a word. Never. Throughout it all, the Black Sword didn’t say a thing. The monster. The ghost. The mere shell. What could be worse than this? What death could be as profound as this? What disappointment, what despair, could ever be greater? Khârn raged at it. He howled in fury, coming at him again and again, shrugging off the wounds. He wanted the old one back. The one with some fire in his veins. He wanted some spirit. Just a flicker of something - anything - other than this flint-edged, iron-deep hardness. They had laughed together, the two of them. They had fought in the roaring pits, and had sliced slabs out of one another, and at the end they had always slumped down in the straw and the blood and laughed. Even the Nails had not taken that away, for in combat the Nails had still always shown the truth of things. ‘Be… angry!’ he bellowed, thundering in close. ‘Be… alive!’ Because you could only kill the things that lived. You couldn’t kill a ghost, only swipe your axe straight through it. There was nothing here, just frustration, just the madness of going up against a wall, again and again. The Nails spiked at him. He fought harder. He fought faster. His muscles ripped apart, and were instantly reknitted. His blood vessels burst, and were restored. He felt heat surge through his body, hotter and whiter than any heat he had ever endured. The Black Sword resisted it all, silently, implacably, infuriatingly. It was like fighting the end of the universe. Nothing could shake the faith before him. It was blind to everything but itself, as selfish as a jewel-thief in a hoard. His chainaxe whirred as wildly as he’d ever thrown it, igniting the promethium vapour in the air, sending the blood lashing out like whipcord. He scored hits with it. He wounded the ghost. He made him stagger, made him gasp. The heat roared within him, turbocharging his hearts. He heard the coarse whisper of the Great God in his bruised ears. Do it. Do this thing. Do this thing for me. The ghost came back at him, tall and dark, his brow crackling with lightning-flecks, his armour as light-devouring as the blade he wielded. Khârn became sublime, in the face of that. The violence he unleashed was like a chorus of unending joy. The ground beneath the two of them was destroyed, sending them plummeting in clouds of debris. Even when they crashed to the earth, they fought on. They rocked and swayed around one another, obliterating everything within the arc of a sword or the ambit of an axe-length. ‘I… am… not…’ he blurted, feeling the tidal wave of exhaustion drag on even his god-infused limbs. He realised what had been done, then. In the midst of his madness, even as the Great God poured himself into his brutalised body, he knew what transformation had occurred. They had always told themselves, after Nuceria, that the Imperium had made the World Eaters. It had been their fault. The injustice, the violence, it had forged that lust for conflict, for the endless rehearsal of old gladiatorial games, like some kind of religious observance to long- and justifiably dead deities. That had given the excuse for every atrocity, every act of wanton bloodletting, for they had done this to us. ‘I… am… not…’ But now Khârn saw the circle complete. He saw what seven years of total war had done to the Imperium. He saw what its warriors had been turned into. He had a vision, even then, in the midst of the most strenuous and lung-bursting fighting he had ever experienced, of thousands of warriors in this very mould, marching out from fortresses of unremitting bleakness, every one of them as unyielding and soul-dead and fanatical as this one, never giving up, not because of any positive cause in which they believed, but because they had literally forgotten how to cede ground. And he saw then how powerful that could be, and how long it could last, and what fresh miseries it would bring to a galaxy already reeling under the hammer of anguish without limits, and then he, even he, even Khârn the Faithful, shuddered to his core. ‘I… am… not…’ He fought on, now out of wild desperation, because this could not be allowed to go unopposed, this could not be countenanced. There was still pleasure, there was still heat and honour and the relish of a kill well made, but it would all be drowned by this cold flood if not staunched here, on Terra, where their kind had first been made, where the great spectacle of hubris had been kicked off. He had to stand. He had to resist, for humanity, for a life lived with passion, for the glorious pulse of pain, of sensation, of something. ‘I… am… not…’ he panted, his vision going now, his hands losing their grip, ‘as… damaged…’ The Black Sword came at him, again, again. It was impossible, this way of fighting - too perfect, too uncompromising, without a thread of pity, without a kernel of remorse. He never even saw the killing strike, the sword-edge hurled at him with all the weight of emptiness, the speed of eternity, so magnificent in its nihilism that even the Great God within him could only watch it come. Thus was Khârn cut down. He was despatched in silence, cast to the earth with a frigid disdain, hacked and stamped down into the ashes of a civilisation, his throat crushed, his skull broken and chest caved in. He was fighting even as his limbs were cut into bloody stumps, even as the reactor in his warp-thrumming armour died out, raging and thrashing to the very end, but by then that was not enough. The last thing he saw, on that world at least, was the great dark profile of his slayer, the black templar, turning his immaculate blade tip down and making ready to end the last bout the two of them would ever fight. ‘Not… as… damaged,’ gasped Khârn, in an agony greater than anything the Nails could ever have given him, but with more awareness of the ludic cruelty of the universe than he had ever possessed before, ‘as… you.’ And then the sword fell, and the god left him, dead amid the ruins of his ancient home.
The belligerent nature of the Black Templars is so intense that there were incident(s) which the chapter's war vehicle would enter battle on their own WITHOUT any crew inside before battle even starts, and when they are found they are already deep into enemy lines with a path of carnage behind them The tradition of wrapping chains upon a templar's arm and hilt/grip of his weapon was originally a World Eater's tradition, a tradition which Sigismund himself has adopted during his time fighting along side Kharn and the warriors of the 12th legion After the Third war of Armagedon, cult(s) were formed to honor and worship Chaplain Grimaldus for his heroism and leadership, this might lead to the Imperium having its first Astartes Living Saint
Pretty sure that was "Rynns Might" the Land Raider whos crew was killed and the Tank decided to go purge by itself. That was on Rynns World It was a Crimson fists Tank.
Just in time for the lecture! And you should know that Sigismund fought Abaddon himself in single combat and nearly defeated the despoiler before being ripped in two by his power claws. With his last breath, Sigismund swore that Abaddon would die in the same manner as his former master Horus. Shortly after, the despoiler sent his body back to the Templars completely untouched to be buried with the highest honors.
I long for the day when the Last Wall Protocol is enacted. All the other Imperial Fists successor chapters unite in the hope of a forming a Legion sized force and them these absolute lunatics show up with an entire goddamn Legion of just themselves.
To the darkness I bring fire. To the ignorant I bring faith. Those who welcome these gifts may live, but I will visit naught but death and eternal damnation on those who refuse them. -Reclusiarch Merek Grimaldus
If memory serves sigismund was so revered even by the forces of chaos, when he was finally killed in battle abbadon returned both his body and his blacksword intact.
He also publicly admitted that if not for Sigismund’s age that he would have lost. Which becomes annoying when you remember the lore also maintains that Astartes implants get more potent with age, which means Sigismund by then would have been more powerful than during the Great Crusade, not weaker.
Emperor: "I'm suprised that one of those successor chapters don't have the word 'fists' in their name." Rogal Dorn: "That is because they are absolute lunatics."
@@paulhudson8725 A fan made parody of 40k, named "if the emperor had a texto to speech device" (chapter 24 if you wanna see it, or just search black templars are lunatics)
"The galaxy is the Emperor's, and anyone or anything who challenges that claim is an enemy who must be destroyed." - Helbrecht at the Battle of Fire And Blood
A slight correction: There were more than 20 Glorianna class battleships created, though we don’t know the exact number, with the Dark Angels having three, the Word Bearers losing one of two to the Ultramarines, and the Alpha Legion having two.
Naming all the Glorianas: Bucephalus - Emperor's flagship Invincible Reason - I Legion flagship Iron Blood - IV Legion flagship Swordstorm - V Legion flagship Hrafnakel - VI Legion flagship Nightfall - VIII Legion flagship Red Tear - IX Legion flagship Fist of Iron - X Legion flagship Conqueror - XII Legion flagship Macragge's Honour - XIII Legion flagship Endurance - XIV Legion flagship Vengeful Spirit - XVI Legion flagship Flamewrought - XVIII Legion flagship Alpha - XX Legion flagship Amphion - part of Battlefleet Solar That's all I can do without Google. Who can add to the list?
@@bradsimpson8724 Paradigm of Hate (destroyed during the Great Crusade) and Truth’s Razor (no idea what happened to it, though its probable it took part in the Thramas Crusade) were also in the Dark Angel’s Legion. The Chronicle of Ashes was the ship taken by the Ultramarines from the Word Bearers, and I do believe you missed the Pride of the Emperor, for the Emperor’s Children, the Eternal Crusader for the Fists/Black Templars, the Photep for the Thousand Sons, the Fidelitas Lex (destroyed in the HH) of the Word Bearers, and the Shadow of the Emperor (destroyed by the Terminus Est during the Drop Site Massacre).
@@spookyghostwriter3110 I left Eternal Crusader out because they mentioned it in the video. I couldn't remember the III Legion flagship; I thought it was Phoenix-related. I do remember a reference to the Chronicle of Ashes somewhere, but didn't think it was a Gloriana. And I didn't know the rest at all. Paradigm of Hate ranks right up there as one of the coolest 40K ship names there is, though(neck and neck with Chronicle of Ashes).
"Grimaldus..... Brother.........." "ARTERION!" "Goodbye.... Brother..." *Honour in Sacrifice intensifies thats when my heart burst into shards like a C'tan and tears streamed down my face like an endless sea of tyranids...
... beautiful. It's fascinating that, all-at-once, the Templars are considered opposed the psychic, yet... their faith and their unquestionable devotion to the intricacies of the miracles they manifest... make them, perhaps, the most psychic marines of them all...
Its funny that you say they are "faith chains", the wrist chain has a much deeper history and goes to show the brutality of its adoptation. In truth, the main point of having your close combat weapons chained to your wrist is out of the knowledge of the World Eaters ideology of warfare, in essence its for that very reason that you can't be disarmed with ease and don't loose grip on your weapon through close combat duels. Sigismund adopted this ritual of the World Eaters because he was crusading along side Khârn and the Legion itself.
I'm pretty sure the modern Black Templars would throw a massive tantrum if they found out the true origin of said faith chains, which is also kinda funny considering their zealotry and penchant for violence combines both the best and worst aspects of both the Word Bearers and World Eaters.
Meanwhile, in real life, experienced melee fighters I've spoken to (inner city police with riot containment experience) will tell you that it's better to let your weapon get yanked away then to let your enemy use it to yank you into Emperor-knows-what nastiness. So looking at these things, I see a triumph of ideology over common sense. Which seems to suit these guys perfectly.
@@Archangelm127 For a Space Marine, there is a selected number of things capable of yanking your weapon away from you. Most of said things are also more than capable of killing you(the Marine) in less than five to ten hits anyways so by then the space marine is acting with all the carefullness of a competent Guardsman against a Tau Fire Warrior. Veteran Space Marines are another matter, in that they know more than enough tricks to get around the faith chains weakness and to them it's a bonus in their arsenal.
@@Archangelm127 It is better to understand that in truth the Space Marine is the Weapon. Riot interactions turn out to much more hit and run, while trying to prevent a massive force to turn into a brawl through a bulwark scenario. As you take that example into consideration here, a full size Space Marine without power armour would mob the floor of any standard human out here. Adding chains to a mad lad super human with a chain-axe or not, then you can try to disarm him. You'll never see it coming. They are super humans, you can't compare them to anything in real life. It is the Historical Sword fighting and Gladiatorial Combat you should understand, rather than day to day "riots"... Space Marines are weapons of war, they deal with creatures or humaniods that can mess them up in a spilt second. Having a millisecond of advandage in any situation, is worth the risk of coming out on the other side as the victorious. However you can't compare fiction, with real life riots what so ever here. If you did that you should focus more on the real armed police forces within 40k as a whole - The Adeptus Arbites. Then you see how things related properly when facing down a rampaging Hivecity mob.
"You will die as your weakling father died. Soulless, honorless, weeping, ashamed." -Sigismund, Emperor's Champion, First Templar, First captain of the Imperial Fists. For Sigismund and the glory of the Emperor!
(inquisitor voice) Yes the Black Templar *"Chapter"* edit: they didn't talk about how Sigismund's turn to emperor worship in a time when it was illegal by the emperor's own will disgraced him and he was made black templar chapter master as a punishment, ruling over his fellow disgraces to Rogal Dawn's eyes. (The chains are also from Sigismund who himself got them from the gladiator pits of the world eaters traitor legion).
"Suffer Not the Unclean to Live Uphold the Honour of the Emperor Abhor the Witch. Destroy the Witch Accept Any Challenge, No Matter the Odds" --- Vows of the Black Templars
When you really do think about it; The Black Templars are Codex-Compliant. A chapter can have more than 1000 Marines,if they're on a crusade. The Templars are on an eternal crusade sooo...
Ultramarine captain Titus was taken into the Inquisition's custody and returned 200 years later wearing his same old blue colours BUT....with Black Templars' chains around his arm.
I kinda figured he was with the Death Watch and learned it from a Templar there Titus also now carries the I of the Imperial Inquisition on his battle plate... which would explain that.
Can we appreciate that a non-First Founding chapter has a goddamn GLORIANA BATTLESHIP as its flagship? Granted, that’s probably only because the Fists get the phalanx which is way better, but still. That is an insane asset for the Templars
I like the Templin Institute’s videos. Not so long that they’re basically deep dives, and long enough to thoroughly cover a topic. Perfect for a lunch break.
Imperium: "man the great crusade was amazing." Black Templars: "I ain't hear no bell." (Seriously the Black Templars are the Embodiment of "I ain't hear no bell"
Factions I would like to see next: 1. The Moclan State | The Orville 2. The Mrrshan Pride | Master of Orion 3. The Xenomorphs | Alien/Predator Universe 4. Space Wolves Chapter | Warhammer 40K 5. Decepticons | Transformers
Fun fact: Devotion chains originated with the XII Legion - The World Eaters. Sigismund had a brotherhood and friendship with Khârn before he fell to Chaos. The World Eaters chained their weapons to their wrists as their Genefather did in the pits of Nuceria.
@@charleybabb3223 Yoid be surprised how much information there is with some of the newer books. We know WHAT happened to them and where. But not the specifics of HOW it all went down or what the 2nd Primarch is currently doing, it becomes speculation after knowing his last known destination, mission and who he met when he got there. Wheras we have 2 options of where the 11th is.
Story time! I was given permission to come up with whatever back story/alternative history for a small exercise for my unit. Had a bunch of personnel from different bases come in as Blue Force (good guys). When i was reading paragraph 1, situation, and said the name of the OpFor ("bad guys") were the Black Templars most of the blue force gave me a weird look and the few who got the reference in the back started cackling maniacally.
I get deeper and deeper into 40K. It absorbs me. I listened to the whole main Eisenhorn Trilogy, know a piece of lore here and there and started to listen to the Horus Heresy audiobooks.
Yet another Space Marines feature from Templin Institute... I am not complaining... I love it... And I hope that MY Honoured First Legion will be featured next!
Also well known is that their favorite non-battle activity is to attend Linkin' Loyalists concerts and blasting "Purging With my Kin" at top volume over subspace frequenceis.
Not really, there are many other Chapters who ignore Guiliman´s Codex Astartes either partially or completely. The Space Wolves don´t give 2 shieets about the Codex either and some Chapters like the Executioners only follow some of the rules while completely ignoring others.
"The galaxy is the Emperor's, and anyone or anything who challenges that claim is an enemy who must be destroyed." -- High Marshal Helbrecht at the Battle of Fire and Blood
Interesting how some of the most fanatical and extremist factions of the Astartes are also some of the most versatile, practical, and lenient towards their members
It’s also Fascinating when you consider The Original Imperial Fist chapter was all but obliterated and many mourned the loss “Institutionally” of a Founding Chapter, during The War of the Beast. However in reality the Imperial Fist exist in Massive numbers within the Black Templar, who helped Avenge their fallen brothers should the “Last Wall” Protocol ever be invoked again.
Yeah that sucked But it was goos that they were able to rally veterans of the other succesors to rebuuld the Fists Although i always assumed they would have recruited more heavily from like minded Chapters like the The Crimson Fists etc
"His armor was painted black to signal he represents the emperor himself" ..."How dare you, you giant mechanical nerd?! He does not need proof! He's the emperor's word!"
The Codex basically was an insult to Dorn. Look at it from his perspective. You just spent YEARS masterfully defending a (at minimum) 3v5 scenario*, hand picked by the emperor for this task. Your sons sacrificed everything in defense of the imperium, as did you, when suddenly one of your brothers who had been fighting a fringe campaign the entire war, shows up after the death of the emperor, and DARES to suggest that they aren’t worthy enough to fight together under the same banner. A banner that they fought and died under to spread the emperor’s glory, and that your don’t have the right to command them. It’s a testament to Dorn’s patience that he didn’t lay guilliman out right there. *the other two chapters were the white scars and the blood angels, heavily focused assault chapters, so don’t try to tell me the fists didn’t do the majority of the heavy lifting.
I'm pretty sure Sigismund and the whole Emperor's Champion deal was trying get rid of the most insane zealot out of the Imperial Fists by telling him to personally challenge and fight every single profoundly dangerous foe they saw, and nobody was prepared for him to just not die - so they really should have seen it coming when they did the same for the most insane chunk of the Imperial Fists.
Not really Actually Dorn held him back and didn't let him go wild until the last days of the Siege of Terra Dorn WAS pissed But by that time he had forgiven Sigismund and his First Captain was ince agin (To quote Dorn) "My most beloved Son" This is a pretty damn new addition to the lore though, so i would have agreed with your statement 100% if i was reading it a year ago
They’re functionally another empire within an empire and that’s pretty cool. The Mechanicus, Inquistion and many other organizations are like this as well. I like how the Imperium is made of many kingdoms barely held together by a common ideology like The Holy Roman Empire. The Black Templars are like some pirate kingdom. Ironically, they’re most like the Ultramarines in being a gigantic sub-empire. I do wonder how much support staff and their own version of the Astra Militarum they have. They have to have also a section of the Mechanicus with them producing war material. Do they interact with the rest of the Imperium?
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Great RUclips video and channel but I found the background music was way too loud. I would strongly suggest you lower it or even better get rid of it altogether. I firmly believe that background music is distracting, annoying, and unnecessary (especially for educational videos with lots of talking). I also believe that people want to hear you speak/get information and not hear generic background music that doesn't really add anything useful and that people have to mentally filter out. Plus it will be one less thing you will have to do when making videos.
Fun fact: the Black Templars exceeding a 1000 marines is entirely codex compliant due to a little loophole in the codex that stipulates that a chapter may exceed the standard 1000 marines if they are in the midst of a crusade, which the Black Templars have been on for the past 10,000 years.
So yeah, Black Templars are a totally codex compliant chapter.
Hahahaha that’s brilliant
big brain move
So basically: all other chapters failed the test and only the Black templar are worthy of being a Legion? nice
I sometimes wonder in the present time if Roboute Gulliman viewed this loophole being abused as either a wise innovation or a shadow of rebellion.
The Black Templars otherwise however was like, not really codex-positive. Of course part of that could just be memes but yeah.
Even in the grim darkness of the far future, there is always a regulatory loophole.
"I'm sorry, but you've thrown off the Emperor's groove" - Black Templar Space Marine
*adeptus custodes
Schmuck: "SORRRRRYYYYYYYYYY!"
*BLAM!*
Oh, _riiight!_ The Heresy. The Heresy by Horus. The Heresy specifically lead by Horus. The Horus Heresy...
That Heresy?
"You were saying?"
"You will die as your weakling father died. Souless. Honorless. Weeping. Ashamed."
-Sigismund to Abaddon
Horus is dead.
That why your primarch dead 😂
@@ThatOneElfEnjoyer Remind me what he did to yours.
@maltheri9833 Wrong, I AM THE PRIMARCH!
@@cousinzeke4888 Rogal only killed one of my sons, I’m very much alive 🤫
Emperor: "I am surprised one of those did not have the word "Fists" in their name."
Dorn: "That is because they are absolute lunatics."
PURRRGING WIIIIITH MY KIIIIIIIIINNNN
PURRRRRRRGING WIIIIIIIITH MY KIIIIIIIINNNNNN
PURGING WITH MY KINNNNN
PURGING WITH MY KIN
*(STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB)*
"They are absolute lunatics"
Rogal "Adorable" Dorn
Think you mean **LORD** Adornable.
PUUUUUURGING WIIIITH MY KIIIIN!
(RELENTLESS STABBING)
"The legions must be broken up into small chapters so no one man holds too much military power." -Robute Gulliman, owner of pretty much the entire eastern Imperium.
Aka, the guy who ordered hundreds of thousands of Astartes that only he knew about and could command to be made
Gulliman is a traitor to humanity and the Imperium, all to stoke his own massive ego.
In fairness, he's pretty much realised that the breakup of the Legions was a bad idea in the current TL.
@@thechriscrowing Fair, but it still doesn't excuse the hypocrisy of forcing his brothers to split up their armies while Gulliman still keeps his personal 500 planet empire, effectively ensuring the Ultramarines and their successors are always better supplied than everyone else.
Of course, that was before the Imperium became lost in a psychic fecal hurricane.
I didnt know I wanted a Templin Institute branded servo skull.
*NOW I DO*
Now that gives me an idea. A Templin Institute colour scheme for a Space Marine chapter, or Mechanicus Forge World.
@@FeinryelRavenclaw No, in 40k it's the Inquisition Ordo Templin. Maybe a Machanicus Exploration Fleet.
Why isn't this in the merch 😢?
*"I have dug my grave in this place today and I will either triumph or I will die! No fear! No remorse! No mercy!"*
...."If there is a lesson to this Reclusiarch, I am blind to it.... Let me end it. It's existance offends me."
xD
'Hurl yourselves at these walls, inhuman filth! Die on our blades! I am Grimaldus of the BLack Templars, and I will cast your carcasses from these holy walls!'
“I endure this, for nine days.
Nine. Days.”
@@limeyndixie Throne, the numbers.
No Pity! No Remorse! No Fear! - fixed that for you.
They may not be daddy Dorn's favorite, but there's something to said about giving your slightly off kilter kids the keys to your second most tricked out ride (the Eternal Crusader) and telling them to go do what they do best with it.
By the time Black Templars formed, Dorn was likely still in his depression over his great failure.
@ Huntermad
Perhaps his anger at the traitors caused him to see things from the Black Templars’ point of view and appreciate what they bring to the table more.
Hero of Helsreach, the crowd call.
As if there is only one.
Forgive me. Forgive me for living, while you lie cold and still.
Helsreach was such a fucking cool book.
FOR HELSREACH!
I will die on this world… I will die on Armageddon…
I love how the book states the Black Templars came to Armageddon with almost a full chapter’s worth of Astartes. Everyone was too happy for the extra Astartes to question how they had that many in the area while still supposedly having other crusades ongoing.
The beauty of the black templar is that they are the closest and farthest thing from the ideal space marine chapter at the same time.
They did not adopt Girlyman's codex (which is something that the Emperor would approve) but they are a bunch of religious fanatics almost on the level of Lorgar and the Word Bearers (which we know the Emperor hated).
They reject A LOT of the Emperor's ideals but they are the only chapter that still follows the crusade.
Also the only chapter that upholds the emperors edict about not having psykers
In a Character sense the BT are the enbodiment of the Imperium in current 40K not the Ultras.
They're one of the few chapters that worship the Emperor as God, something the Emperor was very much against. Hell, He sanctioned against Word Bearers for worshiping Him.
@@dyingearth honestly while the religion was an issue it was mainly the Word bearers being the slowest legion in the great Crusade due to spreading religion to conquered worlds and restoring which take time
@@anthonyallmond3682 no it was pretty well stated that the Emperor was disgusted by the word bearers turning entire worlds over to worshipping him
Sigismund: "Zeal makes all things possible, duty makes all things simple."
“Who wouldn’t like some light crusading after chuch?” - probably Sigismund
"If it doesn't see the emperor's light, then it shall see the emperor's wrath"
- Black templar
Now I hope they maje a spin off space marine game about these guys
He never said a word. Never. Throughout it all, the Black Sword didn’t say a thing. The monster. The ghost. The mere shell. What could be worse than this? What death could be as profound as this? What disappointment, what despair, could ever be greater?
Khârn raged at it. He howled in fury, coming at him again and again, shrugging off the wounds. He wanted the old one back. The one with some fire in his veins. He wanted some spirit. Just a flicker of something - anything - other than this flint-edged, iron-deep hardness. They had laughed together, the two of them. They had fought in the roaring pits, and had sliced slabs out of one another, and at the end they had always slumped down in the straw and the blood and laughed. Even the Nails had not taken that away, for in combat the Nails had still always shown the truth of things.
‘Be… angry!’ he bellowed, thundering in close. ‘Be… alive!’
Because you could only kill the things that lived. You couldn’t kill a ghost, only swipe your axe straight through it. There was nothing here, just frustration, just the madness of going up against a wall, again and again. The Nails spiked at him. He fought harder. He fought faster. His muscles ripped apart, and were instantly reknitted. His blood vessels burst, and were restored. He felt heat surge through his body, hotter and whiter than any heat he had ever endured. The Black Sword resisted it all, silently, implacably, infuriatingly.
It was like fighting the end of the universe. Nothing could shake the faith before him. It was blind to everything but itself, as selfish as a jewel-thief in a hoard. His chainaxe whirred as wildly as he’d ever thrown it, igniting the promethium vapour in the air, sending the blood lashing out like whipcord. He scored hits with it. He wounded the ghost. He made him stagger, made him gasp. The heat roared within him, turbocharging his hearts. He heard the coarse whisper of the Great God in his bruised ears. Do it. Do this thing. Do this thing for me. The ghost came back at him, tall and dark, his brow crackling with lightning-flecks, his armour as light-devouring as the blade he wielded.
Khârn became sublime, in the face of that. The violence he unleashed was like a chorus of unending joy. The ground beneath the two of them was destroyed, sending them plummeting in clouds of debris. Even when they crashed to the earth, they fought on. They rocked and swayed around one another, obliterating everything within the arc of a sword or the ambit of an axe-length.
‘I… am… not…’ he blurted, feeling the tidal wave of exhaustion drag on even his god-infused limbs. He realised what had been done, then. In the midst of his madness, even as the Great God poured himself into his brutalised body, he knew what transformation had occurred. They had always told themselves, after Nuceria, that the Imperium had made the World Eaters. It had been their fault. The injustice, the violence, it had forged that lust for conflict, for the endless rehearsal of old gladiatorial games, like some kind of religious observance to long- and justifiably dead deities. That had given the excuse for every atrocity, every act of wanton bloodletting, for they had done this to us.
‘I… am… not…’ But now Khârn saw the circle complete.
He saw what seven years of total war had done to the Imperium.
He saw what its warriors had been turned into.
He had a vision, even then, in the midst of the most strenuous and lung-bursting fighting he had ever experienced, of thousands of warriors in this very mould, marching out from fortresses of unremitting bleakness, every one of them as unyielding and soul-dead and fanatical as this one, never giving up, not because of any positive cause in which they believed, but because they had literally forgotten how to cede ground.
And he saw then how powerful that could be, and how long it could last, and what fresh miseries it would bring to a galaxy already reeling under the hammer of anguish without limits, and then he, even he, even Khârn the Faithful, shuddered to his core.
‘I… am… not…’ He fought on, now out of wild desperation, because this could not be allowed to go unopposed, this could not be countenanced. There was still pleasure, there was still heat and honour and the relish of a kill well made, but it would all be drowned by this cold flood if not staunched here, on Terra, where their kind had first been made, where the great spectacle of hubris had been kicked off. He had to stand. He had to resist, for humanity, for a life lived with passion, for the glorious pulse of pain, of sensation, of something.
‘I… am… not…’ he panted, his vision going now, his hands losing their grip, ‘as… damaged…’
The Black Sword came at him, again, again. It was impossible, this way of fighting - too perfect, too uncompromising, without a thread of pity, without a kernel of remorse. He never even saw the killing strike, the sword-edge hurled at him with all the weight of emptiness, the speed of eternity, so magnificent in its nihilism that even the Great God within him could only watch it come. Thus was Khârn cut down.
He was despatched in silence, cast to the earth with a frigid disdain, hacked and stamped down into the ashes of a civilisation, his throat crushed, his skull broken and chest caved in. He was fighting even as his limbs were cut into bloody stumps, even as the reactor in his warp-thrumming armour died out, raging and thrashing to the very end, but by then that was not enough. The last thing he saw, on that world at least, was the great dark profile of his slayer, the black templar, turning his immaculate blade tip down and making ready to end the last bout the two of them would ever fight.
‘Not… as… damaged,’ gasped Khârn, in an agony greater than anything the Nails could ever have given him, but with more awareness of the ludic cruelty of the universe than he had ever possessed before, ‘as… you.’ And then the sword fell, and the god left him, dead amid the ruins of his ancient home.
The belligerent nature of the Black Templars is so intense that there were incident(s) which the chapter's war vehicle would enter battle on their own WITHOUT any crew inside before battle even starts, and when they are found they are already deep into enemy lines with a path of carnage behind them
The tradition of wrapping chains upon a templar's arm and hilt/grip of his weapon was originally a World Eater's tradition, a tradition which Sigismund himself has adopted during his time fighting along side Kharn and the warriors of the 12th legion
After the Third war of Armagedon, cult(s) were formed to honor and worship Chaplain Grimaldus for his heroism and leadership, this might lead to the Imperium having its first Astartes Living Saint
Pretty sure that was "Rynns Might" the Land Raider whos crew was killed and the Tank decided to go purge by itself.
That was on Rynns World
It was a Crimson fists Tank.
@@adrienwatson2179 shit happens, but it still shows the nature of a machine spirit
@@thecommentguy9380 Same thing tho
Templar and Crimson fists are both Sons of Dorn
So you get a W on that one my friend
Just in time for the lecture!
And you should know that Sigismund fought Abaddon himself in single combat and nearly defeated the despoiler before being ripped in two by his power claws. With his last breath, Sigismund swore that Abaddon would die in the same manner as his former master Horus. Shortly after, the despoiler sent his body back to the Templars completely untouched to be buried with the highest honors.
I wouldn’t call being ripped in half leaving the body “untouched”
@@willfischer6007 what I mean is he didn't defile it further. No chaos brands, no increased mutilation of the corpse. He just left him as he was.
What book is this from?
@@darkluke9780 i forget
@@darkluke9780 "Black Legion" is the book
Book 2 of the Black Legion series
Very well written
“YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH!!! PURGE THE HERETIC! BURN THE WITCH! DEATH METAL TO THE MAX!”- The most normal Black Templar
*least zealous Black Templar
He just like me fr
I would think they would be huge power wolf fans. And demon hunter
@@mixis1931 yeah I hear a very disturbing lack of Fury and Fervour in his voice, such a disappointment.
"How.... How are we supposed to defend ALL this?...."
....
"With Blade and Bolter! With faith and fire!!"
I long for the day when the Last Wall Protocol is enacted. All the other Imperial Fists successor chapters unite in the hope of a forming a Legion sized force and them these absolute lunatics show up with an entire goddamn Legion of just themselves.
@@postcyberspace we don talk about the war of the beast it was weird and bad
To the darkness I bring fire. To the ignorant I bring faith. Those who welcome these gifts may live, but I will visit naught but death and eternal damnation on those who refuse them.
-Reclusiarch Merek Grimaldus
If memory serves sigismund was so revered even by the forces of chaos, when he was finally killed in battle abbadon returned both his body and his blacksword intact.
Abaddon literally states Sigismund scares him lmao
A feared and respected adversary.
Abbadon still easily clap him 1v1 tho
@@backpackpepelon3867 It was far from easy, as Abaddon was mortally wounded and barely managed to survive.
He also publicly admitted that if not for Sigismund’s age that he would have lost.
Which becomes annoying when you remember the lore also maintains that Astartes implants get more potent with age, which means Sigismund by then would have been more powerful than during the Great Crusade, not weaker.
Emperor: "I'm suprised that one of those successor chapters don't have the word 'fists' in their name."
Rogal Dorn: "That is because they are absolute lunatics."
This is a couple times I have seen this where does it come from? Especially as the crimson fists were founded at the same time.
@@paulhudson8725 Its a quote from If The Emperor Had A Text To Speech Device.
@@paulhudson8725 A fan made parody of 40k, named "if the emperor had a texto to speech device" (chapter 24 if you wanna see it, or just search black templars are lunatics)
*”Yes.”*
@@srbrant5391 "No."
"The galaxy is the Emperor's, and anyone or anything who challenges that claim is an enemy who must be destroyed." - Helbrecht at the Battle of Fire And Blood
A slight correction: There were more than 20 Glorianna class battleships created, though we don’t know the exact number, with the Dark Angels having three, the Word Bearers losing one of two to the Ultramarines, and the Alpha Legion having two.
Plus there was like 1 or 2 made for Battlefleet Solar that were lost during the Solar War.
Naming all the Glorianas:
Bucephalus - Emperor's flagship
Invincible Reason - I Legion flagship
Iron Blood - IV Legion flagship
Swordstorm - V Legion flagship
Hrafnakel - VI Legion flagship
Nightfall - VIII Legion flagship
Red Tear - IX Legion flagship
Fist of Iron - X Legion flagship
Conqueror - XII Legion flagship
Macragge's Honour - XIII Legion flagship
Endurance - XIV Legion flagship
Vengeful Spirit - XVI Legion flagship
Flamewrought - XVIII Legion flagship
Alpha - XX Legion flagship
Amphion - part of Battlefleet Solar
That's all I can do without Google. Who can add to the list?
@@bradsimpson8724 Paradigm of Hate (destroyed during the Great Crusade) and Truth’s Razor (no idea what happened to it, though its probable it took part in the Thramas Crusade) were also in the Dark Angel’s Legion. The Chronicle of Ashes was the ship taken by the Ultramarines from the Word Bearers, and I do believe you missed the Pride of the Emperor, for the Emperor’s Children, the Eternal Crusader for the Fists/Black Templars, the Photep for the Thousand Sons, the Fidelitas Lex (destroyed in the HH) of the Word Bearers, and the Shadow of the Emperor (destroyed by the Terminus Est during the Drop Site Massacre).
@@spookyghostwriter3110 I left Eternal Crusader out because they mentioned it in the video. I couldn't remember the III Legion flagship; I thought it was Phoenix-related. I do remember a reference to the Chronicle of Ashes somewhere, but didn't think it was a Gloriana. And I didn't know the rest at all.
Paradigm of Hate ranks right up there as one of the coolest 40K ship names there is, though(neck and neck with Chronicle of Ashes).
@@spookyghostwriter3110 Magna Tyrannis (Renamed Harbinger of Doom) for the Sons of Horus and Beta for the Alpha Legion.
I love the templars, simultaneously arguably the most loyal out of all the loyalist space marine factions but definitely the most batshit insane.
WE NEED NOT WEAR HIS SYMBOL FOR WE *ARE* HIS SYMBOL! FOR DORN AND THE EMPEROR!
“I HAVE DUG MY GRAVE IN THIS PLACE! I WILL TRIUMPH OR I WILL DIE! NO PITY! NO REMORSE! NO FEAR!”
"Grimaldus..... Brother.........."
"ARTERION!"
"Goodbye.... Brother..."
*Honour in Sacrifice intensifies
thats when my heart burst into shards like a C'tan and tears streamed down my face like an endless sea of tyranids...
TTS Rogal Dorn:(disappointed sigh) My sons are absolute lunatics. (Alternately enraged): SIGISMUUUUND!!!
*(drinks water)*
*(clears throat)*
🎶 PURRRGINN WIIIITH MY KIIIIIIN 🎶
... beautiful.
It's fascinating that, all-at-once, the Templars are considered opposed the psychic, yet... their faith and their unquestionable devotion to the intricacies of the miracles they manifest... make them, perhaps, the most psychic marines of them all...
Do they have any psykers?
Its funny that you say they are "faith chains", the wrist chain has a much deeper history and goes to show the brutality of its adoptation.
In truth, the main point of having your close combat weapons chained to your wrist is out of the knowledge of the World Eaters ideology of warfare, in essence its for that very reason that you can't be disarmed with ease and don't loose grip on your weapon through close combat duels.
Sigismund adopted this ritual of the World Eaters because he was crusading along side Khârn and the Legion itself.
I'm pretty sure the modern Black Templars would throw a massive tantrum if they found out the true origin of said faith chains, which is also kinda funny considering their zealotry and penchant for violence combines both the best and worst aspects of both the Word Bearers and World Eaters.
Meanwhile, in real life, experienced melee fighters I've spoken to (inner city police with riot containment experience) will tell you that it's better to let your weapon get yanked away then to let your enemy use it to yank you into Emperor-knows-what nastiness. So looking at these things, I see a triumph of ideology over common sense. Which seems to suit these guys perfectly.
They are literaly loyalist version of World Eaters
@@Archangelm127 For a Space Marine, there is a selected number of things capable of yanking your weapon away from you. Most of said things are also more than capable of killing you(the Marine) in less than five to ten hits anyways so by then the space marine is acting with all the carefullness of a competent Guardsman against a Tau Fire Warrior.
Veteran Space Marines are another matter, in that they know more than enough tricks to get around the faith chains weakness and to them it's a bonus in their arsenal.
@@Archangelm127 It is better to understand that in truth the Space Marine is the Weapon.
Riot interactions turn out to much more hit and run, while trying to prevent a massive force to turn into a brawl through a bulwark scenario.
As you take that example into consideration here, a full size Space Marine without power armour would mob the floor of any standard human out here. Adding chains to a mad lad super human with a chain-axe or not, then you can try to disarm him.
You'll never see it coming.
They are super humans, you can't compare them to anything in real life.
It is the Historical Sword fighting and Gladiatorial Combat you should understand, rather than day to day "riots"...
Space Marines are weapons of war, they deal with creatures or humaniods that can mess them up in a spilt second.
Having a millisecond of advandage in any situation, is worth the risk of coming out on the other side as the victorious.
However you can't compare fiction, with real life riots what so ever here.
If you did that you should focus more on the real armed police forces within 40k as a whole - The Adeptus Arbites.
Then you see how things related properly when facing down a rampaging Hivecity mob.
A Black Templar, a Dark Angel and a Blood Raven enter a bar,
... sry, no joke to be found here,
only a Inquisitor crying in the corner...
They are doing the Emperor's work by purging the Galaxy of the Furries
"Avenge me Brother. AVENGE MEEEEEE!!!!"
well they got rid of the strawman version of furries anyway, the actual furries are currently chilling with the Imperial Guard
@@generalhorse493 Yes, Inquisitor
this man
@@MrLolguy93 Just look up the Felinids.
@@srbrant5391 just look up heresy
Codex compliant marine: It says you can't do this in the codex!
Black Templar: Well I can't read!
Fun Fact: High Chaplain Grimaldus had a literal building collapse on top of him and survived.
That was the battle of Hellsreach against the Greenskins
So did Andre
But he promised not to tell anyone so Grimaldus could sound cooler
Black Templars, both loyal and insane at the same time.
Yet the irony is they owe their creation to Guilliman.
"You will die as your weakling father died. Soulless, honorless, weeping, ashamed." -Sigismund, Emperor's Champion, First Templar, First captain of the Imperial Fists. For Sigismund and the glory of the Emperor!
This was my first Army. I have about 4000 points of the Knights of Dorn. Being a Traditional Catholic they appealed very much to me
(inquisitor voice) Yes the Black Templar *"Chapter"*
edit: they didn't talk about how Sigismund's turn to emperor worship in a time when it was illegal by the emperor's own will disgraced him and he was made black templar chapter master as a punishment, ruling over his fellow disgraces to Rogal Dawn's eyes. (The chains are also from Sigismund who himself got them from the gladiator pits of the world eaters traitor legion).
Kind of new information
But at this point in the Siege of Terra, Sigismund has once again become Dorns most "Beloved and favored" son again
The 41sth century is just some little dark age
A very long dark age
"Suffer Not the Unclean to Live
Uphold the Honour of the Emperor
Abhor the Witch. Destroy the Witch
Accept Any Challenge, No Matter the Odds" --- Vows of the Black Templars
When you really do think about it; The Black Templars are Codex-Compliant. A chapter can have more than 1000 Marines,if they're on a crusade. The Templars are on an eternal crusade sooo...
NO PITY!
NO REMORSE!
NO FEAR!
Rogal Dorn: That is because they are absolute lunatics.
Black Templar: PUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRGGGGINNNNNNG WITH MY KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN!!!!!!
Purging Furries, Xenos and Heretics the Black Templars are one of the oldest and greatest chapters to exist.
No Pity! No Remorse! No Fear!
Ultramarine captain Titus was taken into the Inquisition's custody and returned 200 years later wearing his same old blue colours BUT....with Black Templars' chains around his arm.
I kinda figured he was with the Death Watch and learned it from a Templar there
Titus also now carries the I of the Imperial Inquisition on his battle plate... which would explain that.
I cannot imagine any Templin Institute agent would be happy to work within the reality of WH40K
The never ending crusade will never end. Let the fire consume enemies of the Imperium!
Can we appreciate that a non-First Founding chapter has a goddamn GLORIANA BATTLESHIP as its flagship? Granted, that’s probably only because the Fists get the phalanx which is way better, but still. That is an insane asset for the Templars
I like the Templin Institute’s videos. Not so long that they’re basically deep dives, and long enough to thoroughly cover a topic. Perfect for a lunch break.
Imperium: "man the great crusade was amazing."
Black Templars: "I ain't hear no bell."
(Seriously the Black Templars are the Embodiment of "I ain't hear no bell"
More like "I can't hear you over my Fury against the Enemies of Man"
In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only Lore.
PUUUURGING WITH MY KIIIIN!!!!
Factions I would like to see next:
1. The Moclan State | The Orville
2. The Mrrshan Pride | Master of Orion
3. The Xenomorphs | Alien/Predator Universe
4. Space Wolves Chapter | Warhammer 40K
5. Decepticons | Transformers
(see's 5) *YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS* also please let it be the the IDW decepticons
Magnus: SPACE WOLVES?!?!
@@tronmaster5704 FUCKING FURRYS!!!!
@@tronmaster5704 I heard this!
@@hicksbro1975 You were meant to. Man, I'm still bummed about what happened with TTS.
Fun fact: Devotion chains originated with the XII Legion - The World Eaters. Sigismund had a brotherhood and friendship with Khârn before he fell to Chaos. The World Eaters chained their weapons to their wrists as their Genefather did in the pits of Nuceria.
would love to see the institute dive into the battletech universe and all the craziness it has to offer
Dorn: They are utter lunatics.
Well, yeah, but they are the fruit of your loins. Crazy’s gotta come from somewhere.
I've been looking forward to the Templin Institute talking about my bois, the Black Templars! I'm loving all of your 40k content!
FOR GRIMALDUS!!!, FOR DORN!!!... FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!!
Seriously appreciate a Remembrancer firm like the Templin Institute
Still waiting on an investigation into the fates of the second and eleventh legions
Unfortunately there’s not too much to investigate, but I would love to see the templin institute’s take on it
@@charleybabb3223 Yoid be surprised how much information there is with some of the newer books.
We know WHAT happened to them and where.
But not the specifics of HOW it all went down or what the 2nd Primarch is currently doing, it becomes speculation after knowing his last known destination, mission and who he met when he got there.
Wheras we have 2 options of where the 11th is.
Story time!
I was given permission to come up with whatever back story/alternative history for a small exercise for my unit. Had a bunch of personnel from different bases come in as Blue Force (good guys). When i was reading paragraph 1, situation, and said the name of the OpFor ("bad guys") were the Black Templars most of the blue force gave me a weird look and the few who got the reference in the back started cackling maniacally.
The Furries Slayers!
😂man of culture
Could you imagine what would happen if these guys team up with the Death Korps of Krieg.
You really want the Eye of Terror and the Great Rift Patched up and closed by tomorrow morning, huh?
@@thenomad47 Yep. >:)
Chaos daemons going extinct, for one
Epic. Glad to see the templin institute cover 40k again
My favorite part of this chapter's history is when they purged the Furry World.
I get deeper and deeper into 40K.
It absorbs me.
I listened to the whole main Eisenhorn Trilogy, know a piece of lore here and there and started to listen to the Horus Heresy audiobooks.
The dark imperium trilogy is the crème de La crème of the lore in my opinion, if you’re looking for something new.
Always on hype for warhammer's content
Yet another Space Marines feature from Templin Institute... I am not complaining... I love it... And I hope that MY Honoured First Legion will be featured next!
Old good Black Templars never age, just like those Primaris reinforcement
Black Templars when they find out the Big E is basically an OP psyker: confused screaming
"Now nobody say hretoc in front of-"
"HERETIC!?!?! BURN THE BLASHPHER!!!"
Purging with my kin~~~The bloodshed so surreal~~~
Burn the heretic
Kill the mutant
Purge the unclean
In the name of the emperor let none survive
LET NONE SURVIVE 💀
This was awesome. Thank you kind sir.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Idk why but the way you said Waaagghs at 14:00 made me chuckle
Helbrecht High Marshal of the Black Templars: WAAH!
Sanguinius mentioned Sigismund is like Death's shadow
The Black Templars lack so little chill when crusading, that even the World Eaters would tell the Black Templars to "calm your tits!"
Also well known is that their favorite non-battle activity is to attend Linkin' Loyalists concerts and blasting "Purging With my Kin" at top volume over subspace frequenceis.
"No Pity! No Remorse! No Fear!"
---- Black Templars' Battlecry ----
I kinda wanna see what a templin homebrew chapter of space marines would be like.
Never let some trivial rules like the Codex Astartes get in the way of some good crusading...
*PURGING WITH MY KIN!!*
Woo Linkin Loyalists.
The Black Templars, the only chapter to ignore the absurd and idiotic dictates of the codex astarties
Not really, there are many other Chapters who ignore Guiliman´s Codex Astartes either partially or completely.
The Space Wolves don´t give 2 shieets about the Codex either and some Chapters like the Executioners only follow some of the rules while completely ignoring others.
"The galaxy is the Emperor's, and anyone or anything who challenges that claim is an enemy who must be destroyed." -- High Marshal Helbrecht at the Battle of Fire and Blood
Ultramarines and Imperial Fists are one of my ever-favorite Space Marines Chapters, alongside the Black Templars.
Interesting how some of the most fanatical and extremist factions of the Astartes are also some of the most versatile, practical, and lenient towards their members
because the emporer will guid us.
It’s also Fascinating when you consider The Original Imperial Fist chapter was all but obliterated and many mourned the loss “Institutionally” of a Founding Chapter, during The War of the Beast.
However in reality the Imperial Fist exist in Massive numbers within the Black Templar, who helped Avenge their fallen brothers should the “Last Wall” Protocol ever be invoked again.
Yeah that sucked
But it was goos that they were able to rally veterans of the other succesors to rebuuld the Fists
Although i always assumed they would have recruited more heavily from like minded Chapters like the The Crimson Fists etc
Brothers, it is time to purge the alien that threatens the emperor. We must converge on Octarius and purge the alien. FOR THE EMPEROR!
"His armor was painted black to signal he represents the emperor himself"
..."How dare you, you giant mechanical nerd?! He does not need proof! He's the emperor's word!"
The Codex basically was an insult to Dorn. Look at it from his perspective. You just spent YEARS masterfully defending a (at minimum) 3v5 scenario*, hand picked by the emperor for this task. Your sons sacrificed everything in defense of the imperium, as did you, when suddenly one of your brothers who had been fighting a fringe campaign the entire war, shows up after the death of the emperor, and DARES to suggest that they aren’t worthy enough to fight together under the same banner. A banner that they fought and died under to spread the emperor’s glory, and that your don’t have the right to command them. It’s a testament to Dorn’s patience that he didn’t lay guilliman out right there.
*the other two chapters were the white scars and the blood angels, heavily focused assault chapters, so don’t try to tell me the fists didn’t do the majority of the heavy lifting.
Oh damn missed this notification! Loved the 40k lately 🤌🤌🤌
I'm pretty sure Sigismund and the whole Emperor's Champion deal was trying get rid of the most insane zealot out of the Imperial Fists by telling him to personally challenge and fight every single profoundly dangerous foe they saw, and nobody was prepared for him to just not die - so they really should have seen it coming when they did the same for the most insane chunk of the Imperial Fists.
Not really
Actually Dorn held him back and didn't let him go wild until the last days of the Siege of Terra
Dorn WAS pissed
But by that time he had forgiven Sigismund and his First Captain was ince agin (To quote Dorn) "My most beloved Son"
This is a pretty damn new addition to the lore though, so i would have agreed with your statement 100% if i was reading it a year ago
I think its funny how they basically almost a legion in strength and just like "nah nope, we are totally compliant"
They’re functionally another empire within an empire and that’s pretty cool. The Mechanicus, Inquistion and many other organizations are like this as well. I like how the Imperium is made of many kingdoms barely held together by a common ideology like The Holy Roman Empire. The Black Templars are like some pirate kingdom. Ironically, they’re most like the Ultramarines in being a gigantic sub-empire. I do wonder how much support staff and their own version of the Astra Militarum they have. They have to have also a section of the Mechanicus with them producing war material. Do they interact with the rest of the Imperium?
Imagine the strain on their ships for crusading 10k years
Rogal Dorn: Wht can't you just be normal???!!!!
Sigismund: Puuuuurrrrgiiinn' with my kiiiiiiiin!!!!!