The ES is one of the most underrated cars. Certainly not a “glam” model or oozing with the latest tech. In fact boring by most automotive enthusiasts’ standards, but super comfortable, cheap to own and will last forever (like most Lexus/Toyota).
Gotta say I prefer this to the 300h more power and urgency when you nail the throttle but I’m gonna get the hybrid though. I can’t bring myself to ignore the practicality of getting 40+mpg. That’s actual money going back in my pocket
Great review, I have a 2024 that's much the same as this one, they did get rid of the touchpad (thankfully). It's a wonderful car for me, traded a 2009 model on this one, at my age, this will probably be my last new car, I'm glad it is this one.
Love the interior, although it has some cheap spots. Notably, the area around the seat heaters and coolers looks like an afterthought that interrupts the flow of the rest of the interior. The second is the coin box and its surrounding area to the left of the steering wheel; that part looks so bad I'd question it even in a Corolla.
@@lawrencetaylor5407 I'm entertained that you mention the coin box. I put up a post on the owners' board just because I couldn't figure out what that darn box was even for. :.D
@tonysterbenc Well, although it's a coin box, I would never put coins in it because it's just hard plastic inside. Any coins in there would rattle like bolts in a blender. What es do you own? 350? 300h...?
@@lawrencetaylor5407 ES 350. And I completely agree with your assessment of that box as a coin box. If I wanted to use it that way, I'd line it with sticky-backed foam, rubber or felt (just as I did in the console with the hard plastic noisemaker of a phone slot).
@@patricklawrence2755 They do offer the AWD but I'm afraid it's only on the ES250 model. That's a 4 cylinder engine which has only 203 hp. That would make it an expensive Camry or Avalon...a disappointment for the GS owners. I hope they will offer the V6 AWD down the road.
Patrick Lawrence it’s only available with a 203 HP! Wtf... paying over 42K for a AWD system that can be had in a 27K Camry or RAV4.. simply no excuse for Lexus to cheap out this bad
@@jxmar_ the 250 is a much different animal. I test drove one before I bought my 350 and because it's a smaller car with a shorter wheelbase, the ride is inferior although the handling is better. Just depends on what you're going for I suppose. Either way, would love to own them all!
Great review, thanks. It was very informative as I'm trying to compare it to this F Sport version. Since both have the same engine, it's tough to decide in favor of the F Sport simply for handling package
You now can get the F Sport with the looks alone or with the handling suspension. Opinons are sharply dividied on whether the suspension's better handling is worth the ride penalty, since it's not a sports car anyway and even the variable suspension's softest setting rides worse than the base car. Try before you buy.
One thing grand about the Lexus models (except for the IS) is the Enform Dynamic Navigation system, where the maps are off the air; you don't need to go once a year for map updates, paying around $200 each time. But they do get you, though: after 3 years, you have to pay $170 for two years to maintain the "dynamic" part of the navigation! It is June 2021. There is NO WAY I'm buying the ES350 right now, not till the 2022 model comes. The much-maligned touchpad will continue but the screen will become a touchscreen, and moved forwards towards the driver. So the driver can use the touchpad...or not! :) I plan to test drive the HYBRID version, and ALSO the brand new Hybrid NX 350h for 2022, redesigned from the ground up.
@@IIOctaneII Exactly. These cars can go 300k easily and turbos will only shorten the lifespan of an engine. Also, the V8's starter motor is in a really bad position making that repair uber expensive so the V6 is pretty much perfect!
I Think There Ain’t Nothing Luxurious And Special About Touchscreens Though. They Used Touchscreens In The Early 2000’s Btw. Oh, And Have Fun Cleaning Them Fingerprints Off The Screen😬
Both. The regular one is quicker and a little quieter. The hybrid one runs silently at times and doesn't have its tranquility disturbed by wheelspin when you stomp it (since it's less powerful). Both ride great.
I would be interested in knowing what commonly-used functions one needs the touchpad for. From the video, and my test-drive in an ES350, most radio and climate functions can be handled via either dash controls, steering wheel controls, or both. I would guess the navigation system would need the pad, but what other functions? Anyone know?
Apple CarPlay or Android Auto; nav; lots of secondary audio functions like radio presets and tone controls; some of the sexier climate control functions like the Climate Conciege; trip computer stuff; viewing the onscreen owner's manual while in Park; others.
You're right, it won't. Nor is it meant to. The GS died in this country after the ES outsold it more than 10 to 1. Unfortunately, Americans proved they won't pay extra for performance in a sedan unless it has a German badge.
@@tonysterbenc You are not going to win this argument with me nor are you smarter than me in this area. See I worked as a Quality Engineer in Tennessee as a TPS/Lean quality engineering overseeing the production of the ES here in the U.S. I am also 45 not 25 with degrees in Computer Science and Project Management certifications in this area of automotive. So, no you are wrong the ES line never outsold anything in the U.S. You are wrong on the GS line the GS line continued to be sold as the GFS line. And the LS500 is selling really well. I grew up in a Toyota family in 1985 while you were riding around in Chevy's. You really need to stop making videos on Japanese cars. Stick to Americans. These cars were not build for Americans. Today's Lexus customer and highly educated(more than you) Latino, Asian, and Black customers; with blacks being the majority of customers. So, next time you attack someone stop and think. German cars have the highest cost of ownership to low quality metric across all brands. The only "Quality" in German cars is your wallet. Today's minority group is preferres and demand the highest quality and performance that only Lexus can provide. You need to realize that American and German cars are nowhere. Ya are not supreme at anything much less at building quality cars. Please stay off RUclips.
@@tonysterbencAs soon as somebody challenges you you hit that report button which proves me right you think you are above evsryone else. Again you are not. Keep reporting this and I will report your whole channel. I never asked you to talk to me.
@@elir.torres8642 O-kay. Facts: 1) I didn't make the video, I'm a viewer just like you. 2) The job you claim you had in Tennessee was actually in Lexington, Kentucky. 3) The GFS (actually the GS-F) was also discontinued 3 years ago. 4) Most US buyers of Lexus are not Black. By any chance, are there toxic fumes seeping into your mom's basement? Asking for a friend.
I'm so pissed off I can't believe this guy ignored the panoramic sunroof he might as well erase this video..... When you miss features of the car it's just absolutely worthless
If you can afford it, I'd get the Luxury or Ultra Luxury. I agree, the leather and Levinson take the car farther in the direction of why you'd choose one of these.
I hope not because more people need to learn the pads and dials. It's safer and much easier to use overtime. Most youtubers won't use the car for a few weeks and rant about it but after living with it for some time you won't even look at the screen it becomes more like changing gears that's why mazda turns touch off the moment you get above walking pace speeds so it people will learn and not look at the touch screen.
@@reenachauriya4931 as someone who has lived with both remote touch with a touchpad and a joystick I found both infinitely more distracting. I have a 2007 es and radio controls are easy but if you want to change temperature you have to dig into menus on the touch screen. Lexus ergonomics have been bad for a while. Right now for ease of use and less distractibility I would take any hyundai or Kia.
@@jspira92 I don't change temperature very often but I can tell you that if I did change temperature very often then I would have gotten used to locating it on the menu screen without looking like I do with other things. And I think most people who have used one would agree that dial or touchpad is safer ,the new genesis and bmw 4series also offers it and they had touch screens before so think they're trying to incorporate in more cars. Altho switching to touch after dial can feel easier I still prefer the dial the most while driving.
Plz don't show a vehicle in bright sunlight. You can't see anything. Very annoying, great vid though. That arm rest is going to get dirty as hell, it should come in black.
sorry i work on them they come by every day. mid size luxury sedan without awd as an option and only fwd to boot. doesnt handle well nor does it ride like a caddy. everything you cant see easily is a camry. doesnt even compete with any of the German rivals. all the ES's features over the camry is just standard lexus features. but hey if you want to pay 50% more for a camry go right ahead. not like the parts are any cheaper.
@@allenlin6169 You are comparing this to a completely different segment in the car market! This car wasn't designed for performance like a German Car. The people who buy this car want QUALITY, COMFORT, RELIABILITY, GOOD RESALE, and cheaper service/repair costs! Frankly none of those qualities except for possibly comfort in some models are shared by a Merc, Audi or BMW. Its obvious you have no clue what you are talking about. The Camry and this car couldn't be more different. The model above the Camry would be the Avalon and the Model above an Avalon would be an ES350. In Fact the ES is a bigger car than the Camry and they don't share the same Chassis. If you look at all of the features the Ultra Luxury trim has you won't find a German model for the same amount of money. I'm SURE you have never even driven this car before let alone looked inside one! The quality and comforts of the ES are in a different league than a Camry! BTW the reviewer didn't even show all of the features and options on this car! Why do you think the German cars have so many Certified cars for sale that are 4 years old? It's not just because of leases, people know how expensive these are to repair and service and with the reliability and with the substandard reliability they dump these after the 4 year warranty is over.
Do you think this would be a more reliable cars in the 2022 Mercedes-Benz S class AMG at 160,00 Load it up? I have never had a Japanese car I have always had since I was 16 years old German cars Daddy said that German cars are the best. He. Drives an Audi eight series 2021 is a large car very big and he drives a Porsche 911 turbo it’s a 2018 they are The best cars my mother drives a Corvette stingray she says they are the best so I was wondering about what you people think about the new Lexus this I think aloud it comes around $90,000 it would be less money than the $160,000 Mercedes S class that daddy wants to be held in order for me this week So I can say is my father probably $60,000 someone said that some of the new Mercedes were having problems I don’t know but it’s gonna take it 11 weeks to come in because they don’t have anything on the car lots that I like and I’m not driving up to Santa Barbara California From my home in Brentwood. Then my friend in Manhattan on the upper East Side she said they are glorified Toyotas definitely stay with the Mercedes S class AMG 2022 convertible cabriolet Father told me today maybe you should get a loaded Boxster ? Porsche Boxster I informed him that I am 6’3” tall and they are too small He said you can’t go wrong with a Porsche or maybe just go ahead and get the Lotus When he said that I said yes that is the one That’s probably the best one of them all it’s gonna be very reliable and I will be very happy with that. I Didn’t want to ask him to pay for the lotus because we buy our vehicles out right we do not finance anything and that way you’ve got the title in your hand when you leave the dealership so I said yes that’s the one so I decided to get the 2022 Lotus because he offered. But I didn’t ask him for that I hinted at that hoping that he would read between the lines ? and he did !! he always does.
@@ShiftingLanes Becuase it is unacceptable to pay more than 50K$ and get a AWD which less stable and preforme wrose than RWD and AWD (Real ones) + Plus all camry platforms (especially 13-17) have really bad stability issues and the car easily loses control compared to its competetors. Don't forget that it is sharing the same platform as car half its price. Lexus, Cadillac, Genesis, and lincon are not truly lexury they are only good at adding cheap technology to their cars to sell at a crazy high price
@@MrGames4Arab The 2019 ES and Avalon, along with the 2018 Camry, started over with a completely new platform. They're still FWD, but they handle much better than the old ones. Unacceptable? That's a matter of opinion. Remember the Germans and Genesis with AWD and a V6 also cost over $10,000 more and aren't as reliable. It's all a matter of what you value.
What does AWD have to do with luxury? Is the car comfortable, quiet, reliable? Great! People are too spoiled today, "if it doesn't have a turboed 5L V8 with AWD, 0-60 in 2 seconds, I don't want it!" Go buy something else then.
@@SDF5150 I'm biased by the fact I'm coming out of an Acura RL. I felt its AWD system provided added security and peace of mind because it maintained traction amazingly even in crappy conditions or if I made an idiotic driving mistake. FWD simply can't match that, and I felt it added to the luxury experience.
I personally love the look of the ES, it’s very classy I think.
Just bought one of these. First Lexus for us. Love it! Can't imagine ever getting tired of this car.
The ES is one of the most underrated cars. Certainly not a “glam” model or oozing with the latest tech. In fact boring by most automotive enthusiasts’ standards, but super comfortable, cheap to own and will last forever (like most Lexus/Toyota).
+1
Front wheel drive?
@@kyriakoskitsios yes.
No this car is perfect. I roll it daily. Been rolling es for 20 yrs. They just need tint, 20 inch rims and new air intake. These are beast perfect car
Just make sure it’s made in Japan
This car is the epitome of the classic
definition of luxury.
Gotta say I prefer this to the 300h more power and urgency when you nail the throttle but I’m gonna get the hybrid though. I can’t bring myself to ignore the practicality of getting 40+mpg. That’s actual money going back in my pocket
First time on the channel, I love it. Great overview. 👍
What can I say it's a beautiful car 👍 nice review.
Great review, I have a 2024 that's much the same as this one, they did get rid of the touchpad (thankfully). It's a wonderful car for me, traded a 2009 model on this one, at my age, this will probably be my last new car, I'm glad it is this one.
Great car, great review. Thank you!
Love the interior, although it has some cheap spots. Notably, the area around the seat heaters and coolers looks like an afterthought that interrupts the flow of the rest of the interior. The second is the coin box and its surrounding area to the left of the steering wheel; that part looks so bad I'd question it even in a Corolla.
You would? In a Corolla?
@tonysterbenc Yes. But I bought the car anyways :)
@@lawrencetaylor5407 I'm entertained that you mention the coin box. I put up a post on the owners' board just because I couldn't figure out what that darn box was even for. :.D
@tonysterbenc Well, although it's a coin box, I would never put coins in it because it's just hard plastic inside. Any coins in there would rattle like bolts in a blender.
What es do you own? 350? 300h...?
@@lawrencetaylor5407 ES 350. And I completely agree with your assessment of that box as a coin box. If I wanted to use it that way, I'd line it with sticky-backed foam, rubber or felt (just as I did in the console with the hard plastic noisemaker of a phone slot).
and three years later, still one of the best value cars at 30k or under if youre lucky.
30k?
From 54k in Europe
@@ekimandersom4478 I think they meant used.
I’m so upset he ignored the panoramic sunroof
How you feeling now? Better I hope??
Gay af
@@cincinnatikid47 okay fatty
I loveee it!! I plan on getting one.
I'm gunna get this is in 1 year!
First time to watch this channel. Great job.
It would of been perfect if they had V6 AWD since they drop the GS350.
they did add an AWD model...introduced for the 2021 model year.
@@patricklawrence2755 They do offer the AWD but I'm afraid it's only on the ES250 model. That's a 4 cylinder engine which has only 203 hp. That would make it an expensive Camry or Avalon...a disappointment for the GS owners. I hope they will offer the V6 AWD down the road.
Patrick Lawrence it’s only available with a 203 HP! Wtf... paying over 42K for a AWD system that can be had in a 27K Camry or RAV4.. simply no excuse for Lexus to cheap out this bad
@@jxmar_ It would be perfect if they put the phev from the rav4 prime with 302hp in the ES awd.
@@jxmar_ the 250 is a much different animal. I test drove one before I bought my 350 and because it's a smaller car with a shorter wheelbase, the ride is inferior although the handling is better. Just depends on what you're going for I suppose. Either way, would love to own them all!
Great review, thanks. It was very informative as I'm trying to compare it to this F Sport version. Since both have the same engine, it's tough to decide in favor of the F Sport simply for handling package
You now can get the F Sport with the looks alone or with the handling suspension. Opinons are sharply dividied on whether the suspension's better handling is worth the ride penalty, since it's not a sports car anyway and even the variable suspension's softest setting rides worse than the base car. Try before you buy.
One thing grand about the Lexus models (except for the IS) is the Enform Dynamic Navigation system, where the maps are off the air; you don't need to go once a year for map updates, paying around $200 each time. But they do get you, though: after 3 years, you have to pay $170 for two years to maintain the "dynamic" part of the navigation!
It is June 2021. There is NO WAY I'm buying the ES350 right now, not till the 2022 model comes. The much-maligned touchpad will continue but the screen will become a touchscreen, and moved forwards towards the driver. So the driver can use the touchpad...or not! :) I plan to test drive the HYBRID version, and ALSO the brand new Hybrid NX 350h for 2022, redesigned from the ground up.
How would a used one hold up, like a 2019 ultra luxury?
@@walterclements2877 I drive a 2013 ES350, has 65,000 miles. Trouble free, wonderful car. 👍🙏
@@OnlineMD beautiful. I am going to be like that
Touch screen, v8 with awd,or a turbo v6. then it would be perfect.
For the average buyer of this car, they wouldn’t care for v8 awd or even turbo v6 for added costs..
Turbo would make the car less reliable 💀
@@IIOctaneII Exactly. These cars can go 300k easily and turbos will only shorten the lifespan of an engine. Also, the V8's starter motor is in a really bad position making that repair uber expensive so the V6 is pretty much perfect!
They’re adding 300+hp twin motor hybrid AWD with RWD mode so kinda granted?
the 2021 IS350 has a touchscreen
I dont understand why acura and lexus use those stupid mouse pads. Just put a large touch screen in the car.
I Think There Ain’t Nothing Luxurious And Special About Touchscreens Though. They Used Touchscreens In The Early 2000’s Btw. Oh, And Have Fun Cleaning Them Fingerprints Off The Screen😬
@@kanielar4756 way easier to use than a stupid touch pad.my screen doesnt really show finger prints in my car.
@@jamesloehr641 It’s Real Simple To Use And It Is Simple For A Reason. Y’all Shouldn’t Be Using It While Driving Anyway Haha
2022 ES will have touchscreen...
Thank you for the video! Is the 2024 version of the infotainment system a touchscreen?
Yes
Which is more comfortabke to drive?
The hybrid one or the regular one?
Both. The regular one is quicker and a little quieter. The hybrid one runs silently at times and doesn't have its tranquility disturbed by wheelspin when you stomp it (since it's less powerful). Both ride great.
Hope to get CPO 2022 ES 350 in 2 or 3 years...
Did ya get it?
You should'nt be using the computer with the car moving anyways.
I would be interested in knowing what commonly-used functions one needs the touchpad for. From the video, and my test-drive in an ES350, most radio and climate functions can be handled via either dash controls, steering wheel controls, or both. I would guess the navigation system would need the pad, but what other functions? Anyone know?
Apple CarPlay or Android Auto; nav; lots of secondary audio functions like radio presets and tone controls; some of the sexier climate control functions like the Climate Conciege; trip computer stuff; viewing the onscreen owner's manual while in Park; others.
@@tonysterbenc Voice control, and since 2021 touchscreen
@@ekimandersom4478 Close. Touchscreen began in 2022.
I love my es 350
We rented one of these its nice but it's just a premium Cammry V6. Will never compare to my 2002 GS430. V8.
You're right, it won't. Nor is it meant to. The GS died in this country after the ES outsold it more than 10 to 1. Unfortunately, Americans proved they won't pay extra for performance in a sedan unless it has a German badge.
@@tonysterbenc You are not going to win this argument with me nor are you smarter than me in this area. See I worked as a Quality Engineer in Tennessee as a TPS/Lean quality engineering overseeing the production of the ES here in the U.S. I am also 45 not 25 with degrees in Computer Science and Project Management certifications in this area of automotive. So, no you are wrong the ES line never outsold anything in the U.S. You are wrong on the GS line the GS line continued to be sold as the GFS line. And the LS500 is selling really well. I grew up in a Toyota family in 1985 while you were riding around in Chevy's. You really need to stop making videos on Japanese cars. Stick to Americans. These cars were not build for Americans. Today's Lexus customer and highly educated(more than you) Latino, Asian, and Black customers; with blacks being the majority of customers. So, next time you attack someone stop and think. German cars have the highest cost of ownership to low quality metric across all brands. The only "Quality" in German cars is your wallet. Today's minority group is preferres and demand the highest quality and performance that only Lexus can provide. You need to realize that American and German cars are nowhere. Ya are not supreme at anything much less at building quality cars. Please stay off RUclips.
@@tonysterbencAs soon as somebody challenges you you hit that report button which proves me right you think you are above evsryone else. Again you are not. Keep reporting this and I will report your whole channel. I never asked you to talk to me.
@@elir.torres8642 I never hit the report button, unless it was by accident. I never do that to anybody.
@@elir.torres8642 O-kay. Facts: 1) I didn't make the video, I'm a viewer just like you. 2) The job you claim you had in Tennessee was actually in Lexington, Kentucky. 3) The GFS (actually the GS-F) was also discontinued 3 years ago. 4) Most US buyers of Lexus are not Black. By any chance, are there toxic fumes seeping into your mom's basement? Asking for a friend.
1800 watts...... _bless your heart!!!_
I'm so pissed off I can't believe this guy ignored the panoramic sunroof he might as well erase this video.....
When you miss features of the car it's just absolutely worthless
For us the absence of 4wd, outdated infotainment and cheap interior didn't work... e450 4matic is on a whole another level...
...of price.
Why don't you make a POV video with this car?
I love this car and I plan on getting the luxury package. Go big or go home.
If you can afford it, I'd get the Luxury or Ultra Luxury. I agree, the leather and Levinson take the car farther in the direction of why you'd choose one of these.
@@tonysterbenc yes! I meant to say Ultra Luxury, I want the Uranium exterior with Palameno interior and the Panaramic sunroof is a must have.
What is the use of the sunroof ?
: zero usage.
I used mine yesterday. That's +1.
1) Need touch screen. What is this 2012? 2) Need AWD. What is this 2012? :)
1) It got a touch screen for '22. 2) Wait for the '25.
Whats the difference between this and ES300?
ES 300h has a four-cylinder engine and a hybrid battery. This has a V6 and a traditional eight-speed automatic transmission.
I can’t decide to buy another es350 or a rc350
Not really similar if you drive them. The RC will be much more nimble while the ES will be much more coddling and spacious.
Nice and refined
how tall are you and how much space do you have
Long-waisted 6' 2". I have enough headroom and more legroom than I can use.
Meditating on you and that cook Lexus.
Do these have soft closing doors?
No.
Yes. Just close the door softly.
But will it still be drivable in 2040?
we still v the es300 on the road over here
@@kennethbryan3738 I own a 2000 Es300 330,000. I just wonder if the build quality will be the same in 20 years.
i have no doubt about it..the 2GR-FE or 2GR-FSE is quite reliable..if not better than the 3MZ-FE
@@kennethbryan3738 maybe 3mz, but 1mz? Also, there are more things than just the engine to worry about. I'm sure they are still great cars.
If you can get gasoline anymore.
🔥 🔥 🔥
This car is the definition of Emasculate..
You know "emasculate" is a verb and not a noun, right?
2021 makes it touch I believe!
I hope not because more people need to learn the pads and dials. It's safer and much easier to use overtime. Most youtubers won't use the car for a few weeks and rant about it but after living with it for some time you won't even look at the screen it becomes more like changing gears that's why mazda turns touch off the moment you get above walking pace speeds so it people will learn and not look at the touch screen.
@@reenachauriya4931 as someone who has lived with both remote touch with a touchpad and a joystick I found both infinitely more distracting. I have a 2007 es and radio controls are easy but if you want to change temperature you have to dig into menus on the touch screen. Lexus ergonomics have been bad for a while. Right now for ease of use and less distractibility I would take any hyundai or Kia.
@@jspira92 I don't change temperature very often but I can tell you that if I did change temperature very often then I would have gotten used to locating it on the menu screen without looking like I do with other things. And I think most people who have used one would agree that dial or touchpad is safer ,the new genesis and bmw 4series also offers it and they had touch screens before so think they're trying to incorporate in more cars. Altho switching to touch after dial can feel easier I still prefer the dial the most while driving.
You are wrong!
Touchscreen for 2022 model...
Plz don't show a vehicle in bright sunlight. You can't see anything. Very annoying, great vid though. That arm rest is going to get dirty as hell, it should come in black.
You can get black. And even if you chose one of the other interior colors, you could simply bolt in the armrest cover from a black one.
I justbought one
spicy camry does not deserve to be called perfected, Im still pissed they discontinued the GS.
Clueless aren't you?
sorry i work on them they come by every day. mid size luxury sedan without awd as an option and only fwd to boot. doesnt handle well nor does it ride like a caddy. everything you cant see easily is a camry. doesnt even compete with any of the German rivals. all the ES's features over the camry is just standard lexus features. but hey if you want to pay 50% more for a camry go right ahead. not like the parts are any cheaper.
I agree
@@allenlin6169 You are comparing this to a completely different segment in the car market! This car wasn't designed for performance like a German Car. The people who buy this car want QUALITY, COMFORT, RELIABILITY, GOOD RESALE, and cheaper service/repair costs! Frankly none of those qualities except for possibly comfort in some models are shared by a Merc, Audi or BMW. Its obvious you have no clue what you are talking about. The Camry and this car couldn't be more different. The model above the Camry would be the Avalon and the Model above an Avalon would be an ES350. In Fact the ES is a bigger car than the Camry and they don't share the same Chassis. If you look at all of the features the Ultra Luxury trim has you won't find a German model for the same amount of money. I'm SURE you have never even driven this car before let alone looked inside one! The quality and comforts of the ES are in a different league than a Camry! BTW the reviewer didn't even show all of the features and options on this car! Why do you think the German cars have so many Certified cars for sale that are 4 years old? It's not just because of leases, people know how expensive these are to repair and service and with the reliability and with the substandard reliability they dump these after the 4 year warranty is over.
Spicy Avalon you mean
Do you think this would be a more reliable cars in the 2022 Mercedes-Benz S class AMG at 160,00 Load it up? I have never had a Japanese car I have always had since I was 16 years old German cars Daddy said that German cars are the best. He. Drives an Audi eight series 2021 is a large car very big and he drives a Porsche 911 turbo it’s a 2018 they are The best cars my mother drives a Corvette stingray she says they are the best so I was wondering about what you people think about the new Lexus this I think aloud it comes around $90,000 it would be less money than the $160,000 Mercedes S class that daddy wants to be held in order for me this week So I can say is my father probably $60,000 someone said that some of the new Mercedes were having problems I don’t know but it’s gonna take it 11 weeks to come in because they don’t have anything on the car lots that I like and I’m not driving up to Santa Barbara California From my home in Brentwood. Then my friend in Manhattan on the upper East Side she said they are glorified Toyotas definitely stay with the Mercedes S class AMG 2022 convertible cabriolet Father told me today maybe you should get a loaded Boxster ? Porsche Boxster I informed him that I am 6’3” tall and they are too small He said you can’t go wrong with a Porsche or maybe just go ahead and get the Lotus When he said that I said yes that is the one That’s probably the best one of them all it’s gonna be very reliable and I will be very happy with that. I Didn’t want to ask him to pay for the lotus because we buy our vehicles out right we do not finance anything and that way you’ve got the title in your hand when you leave the dealership so I said yes that’s the one so I decided to get the 2022 Lotus because he offered. But I didn’t ask him for that I hinted at that hoping that he would read between the lines ? and he did !! he always does.
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Cv.
way too much cheap plastics for the price. Infotainment would be good five years ago but should be touch like all the german comps.
Went touchscreen for 2022.
Perfected?! But yet FWD and uses same platform as the cheap Toyota camry
What’s wrong with fwd and Camry platform?
@@ShiftingLanes Becuase it is unacceptable to pay more than 50K$ and get a AWD which less stable and preforme wrose than RWD and AWD (Real ones) + Plus all camry platforms (especially 13-17) have really bad stability issues and the car easily loses control compared to its competetors. Don't forget that it is sharing the same platform as car half its price.
Lexus, Cadillac, Genesis, and lincon are not truly lexury they are only good at adding cheap technology to their cars to sell at a crazy high price
@@MrGames4Arab The 2019 ES and Avalon, along with the 2018 Camry, started over with a completely new platform. They're still FWD, but they handle much better than the old ones. Unacceptable? That's a matter of opinion. Remember the Germans and Genesis with AWD and a V6 also cost over $10,000 more and aren't as reliable. It's all a matter of what you value.
What does AWD have to do with luxury? Is the car comfortable, quiet, reliable? Great! People are too spoiled today, "if it doesn't have a turboed 5L V8 with AWD, 0-60 in 2 seconds, I don't want it!" Go buy something else then.
@@SDF5150 I'm biased by the fact I'm coming out of an Acura RL. I felt its AWD system provided added security and peace of mind because it maintained traction amazingly even in crappy conditions or if I made an idiotic driving mistake. FWD simply can't match that, and I felt it added to the luxury experience.