You don't even have to be loud to be extremely threatening... In a calm quiet voice, after listening to a guy yelling obscenities at me for fifteen minutes about a girlfriend I hadn't even met, I swallowed the last of my beer, and responded. "Yeah, I've got a hundred and a quarter in cash, and could take three days off... you ready?" He blinked a couple times and asked, "A hundred and a quarter and three days for what?" "Assault and battery after the first arrest," I replied, "Court costs and all, it's a hundred and a quarter and three days in this state. You didn't know that?" I just did my best to say it as "matter of fact" as I'd be telling someone the price of a cheeseburger. He left the bar... I've still never met his "girlfriend" (if she exists)... BUT no, you don't have to be "that kind" of aggressive most of the time. It's a matter (more) of being "Pro-active" rather than "Re-active"... The pro-active do their best to foresee things coming up... issues or just "the next usual step", and they do things about it BEFORE it's detrimental. The RE-active will "wait and see" by default, meandering the whole operation from one crisis to another waiting game, because "it's going to take as long as it takes"... Nobody's right all the time, but the ones who try to act a little ahead of detriment will cut time, cost, and waste more often than they will hinder operations and leave workers and leaders standing around or stranded mid-project. There are better ways to "get the point across" than yelling and spewing filth at people. We didn't like our parents shouting "Because I f***ing said so!" when we were hormonally imbalanced teens, and we're not going to care much for it when our bosses shout that sort of crap as adults... BUT a reasonable explanation can impose the convincing argument to get a worker to "prestage" things ahead of the rest of the team "needing" them... even when there's still a chance they won't even need them. "I'd rather have it and not need it than need it desperately and not have it." ;o)
yeah I don’t respond well to threats . know why? because I really am violent which is why I have to be aware of my surroundings and the type of people...and the volume of my voice . I mean for a little guy I got a huge voice. and when I’m having fun it might attract unwanted attention that would definitely get on my nerves .
@@SuperFatAlbert It helps that the actual charges and fines, account for $125 cash and three days in jail... You wanna go??? I've got some saved up. I'm game... care to see who ends up in worse shape??? I have the cash, so I don't have to give a shit... come on over. We'll have a grand ol' time! Oh....yeah... while those "seconds count"... the cops are only about half an hour or more away... SO good luck. ;o)
Look at a dog. My doberman is aggressive when he's about to chase a rabbit. But he's not angry. He has no beef with the rabbit. Happy as a clam. He just have one goal and one goal only. That's aggression in its purest form
Sk8 Traveler Those are if you define both words in a vacuum. With regard to aggression in this conversation, it works perfectly, and applies to humans as well, from a psychological perspective.
@@chrisbessey358 It's a flawed analogy, especially from a psychological perspective. We are talking about two different functions of an animal's brain. One is an instinctual function, and the other is a reaction to a situation that is perceived by the dog to be dangerous or uncomfortable. Perhaps from a poetic perspective his analogy makes sense, but certainly not from a logical, scientific perspective.
@@sk8traveler727 you can take anything we humans do. You can be aggressive when you're angry. Most certainly yes. But aggression in its purest form is to reach a goal. Fishes do it. Dogs do it. And humans too
@@heavymeddle28 However you try to spin it, your analogy is factually and logically unsound. I'm not going to argue with you, research the difference between prey drive and aggression in dogs yourself, and you will see that your comparison does not hold up. Sorry, it may have sounded nice, but facts are facts.
And this is my struggle, I balance my natural aggression with a strong sense of self-doubt (that I developed as I got older). My confidence came mostly from the ignorance of my youth. The person who directed me to this episode is a great guy, young, a bit of a meat head. He also has social anxiety he handles his life with aggressiveness (defense mechanism) mostly because the area we live in is full of high performing humans that are great at debating and after hearing this he feels validated and encourage to continue, being "aggressive" while I've been preaching the value of self doubt and the ability of introspectively look at yourself.
I've always preferred the terms "Pro-active" versus "Re-active"... SO you've got a choice. You already know there's GOING to be the next issue coming along "down the pipe" in ANY job... You only work peacefully putting things in place like nothing between crises... The Choice is simple. You can get PRO-active about the next foreseeable issue(s) and try to do something about them before they grind your operation to a halt... costing time and money... OR you can stand around and be RE-active, waiting for the figurative monkey wrench to crash into the works and then dread facing the people who depend on you from every angle to have ALL those conversations about what you WERE NOT doing. Pick, and then hope you've made the better decision. Aggressive leadership in war, means always TAKING ground... always moving FORWARD, because you've decided that you're doing this mission one way or another "come Hell or High Water"... as it were. Sometimes you can't help playing the "waiting game"... Sometimes that's the right answer, and nobody I've met ever liked the waiting game. BUT anytime you wonder what you should pick, "moving forward" is probably the better choice... and rely on guys around (like Jocko) who would rather "reign you in" than try to "prod you forward". There are probably superiors to your position who DO know better... and it's their duty to reign you in when you don't have all the details to know when you should back off. ;o)
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 Right on. Aggression is bad in normal society. I remember when it became a buzzword and everyone in business started to use it. Most people had a "yuck" response. But I guess being aggressive is more of a winning strategy because we are stuck with this lame use of a word, that requires endless qualification. If you are up for assault and get all into describing how you aggressively pursued a solution to the problem of the bar fight, good luck. You are probably serving time. The history of the word is not positive, unless you are engaged in something like war.
the opposite of the ''right Aggression'' is the ''emotional female aggression'': become vocally loud, lose common sense, lose self-control, do illogical/irrational decisions, spread chaos and panic
"In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing."-Theodore Roosevelt
Sometimes nothing IS actually the best choice. Don't be a fool and assume it can never be. But most of the time it's not. Most of the time the idea that doing nothing is good is a lie designed to justify our laziness.
awkward? 😂😂😂 yeah I deleted my vids because RUclips has lots of passive aggressive people with a tattoo of “ snitch” between their eyes. but yeah I have to harness and channel my aggression because not being aggressive comes unnaturally to me.
Whenever Jocko and Echo post a clip like this I sit my teen Son down to watch together. We discuss how it applies to our current events in each of our lives. So much valuable information and from such a trusted source. Really appreciate it. 🇺🇸
My music teacher was not only aggressive, he was fierce. He would stop everyone every time he heard an error in the band. He would turn purple over chronic errors and was more than happy to call out someone individually to perform solo then crucify them for 'clearly not practicing, showing up unprepared, and making the entire band look like crap.' We won State competitions in orchestra and marching band every year from 7th grade to graduation.
Well, there's something to be said for that. I can't totally oppose that, but also it might make sensitive people miserable. Sometimes people are whiners, and sometimes they actually are fucked up by mean teachers. Sometimes the end doesn't justify the means. We're not talking about fighting a war or supporting a family here, just a silly little high school band. Hope he didn't turn anyone off music.
Plus the real strength is not in being a disciplinarian to those below you, or in putting up with such an authority figure. It's in being a disciplinarian to YOURSELF. Jocko is always the first to say that it's important to get people on board who you are commanding.
@@michigandersea3485 I promise you that the leaders that made Jacko into a Seal took the same tact as my band teacher. The people that were 'turned off' by it only saved themselves years of futile 'trying'.
What Jocko is calling "being aggressive" is actually "being proactive". That is, taking action before it's too late to take action is what Jocko means by "being aggressive".
I see it as being assertive - if we are talking about a business environment. Combat- or conflict-related would definitely be more aptly described as aggressive. Ultimately they’re just labels we are using.
Yes they do, its just rare. They normally find a type of underwater cave with a decent current running thru it This allows them to remain stationary and sleep inside the cave. The current carries the water thru their gills so they don't die as they sleep.
Best Sergeant I ever served with was quiet, and very together and someone who was always pushing forward, everyone followed him. He was funny, and he was fatherly, we'd have done anything for him. One of the best most positive men I've ever met.
Agreed but also you still need to think for yourself and make you're own choices . There are some gems of knowledge in the internet but still we lern on our own mistakes and choices
absolutely love this. Looking back in my journal, my best results came from aggression. Took people's advice of being passive and my results are not what they were. I'm back now!!!
14:30 (Super Aggressive Music Teacher): we had one! A former Marine, Joe Jameson took our rag-tag high school marching band all the way to top of state championship (SCSBOA) in record time. Kids came home crying, kids quit, but the quality went way, way up. We did door-to-door sales of cups, soap, whatever and bought new uniforms, a new banner sign, etc. etc. AGGRESSION CAN BE POSITIVE!
Yeah. Being aggressive also makes the team feel confident and "safe" too. I have run very large high stress volunteer teams. You gotta be cool with mistakes and you also gotta be direct with expectations. Never get stuck in a moment!
I couldn't agree more. As a government employee, right now allocated to the German health department to lead a larger team of (mostly) volunteers in aiding our health system in Germany during this crisis, being aggressive made my job a lot easier. But not just my job, its also a "confident-boost" for my team members to act more confident and aggressive, when they have to deal with strokes of fate being to told to them on the phone every day, rude people, people threatening them, people that don't obey to orders given, etc. Boosts the morale and makes things more effective. They know what I expect of them, they know they will eventually make mistakes and they know, that I have their backs when it happens. Stay healty!
As a former military officer, my biggest worry while leaving the service was how to focus my aggression into a business appropriate pursuit. This discussion was a huge help. TY!
You can listen to the whole cut and make it about depression, as something that makes you stay on your ass permanently if you're not aggressive, I lost 15 years of my life cause of it.
I control myself all the time. it’s not easy but I’m not eating prison food the rest of my life. and why does everyone who’s a fan of Jocko a friend of urs my dude? yeah he has his good points but not in every way . and yeah I will insult stupid people because they insult my intelligence. and plus I’m different so people who r assholes often mess up thinking I’m going to be all friendly and nice if they try to harass me. nah they’ll get a broken jaw if they don’t shut up ....or at least punked out because they obviously r trying to fight or bully me . I’m friendly and nice and very generous but people shouldn’t take advantage of those types of people. I wasn’t raised to be a jerk . how does that make me not a man? plus I could kill them if I want to so that is controlling it.
any Jocko fan “ Jesus ....I’m not going to sugar coat how that doesn’t make sense. plenty of people on his channel r my mortal enemies. I’m a gay guy and they’re the type on “ freedom of speech “= I can abuse my freedom because I don’t value it and no one will get mean . how unrealistic is that ? very unrealistic and narcissistic perception that could result in them getting man handled and worse . it takes a way bigger man or women to mind their own business and watch their mouths. because there’s men like me and way worse .
a Vice President who’s a known homophobe and I’m supposed to be cool? after seeing a friend get very messed up from an abusive homophobic family? 😂😂😂😂 his stepdad knows not to be seen by me . and he’s lucky there’s “ government help” because he’d be a mangled corpse if I had it my way. how u like that? don’t ever tell me how to be a man. get it bro? cool.
“ don’t punch in a street fight” is definitely going to get people hurt . for one thing even when ur in a stance ball ur fists up . why? because when the other person starts throwing and ur hands r open or u try palm striking they can catch ur fingers and jam them or break them . how effective will the Jui Jitsu be with broken fingers ? they say “ break ur hands” and it’s ironic. how many cops do u think really got into street fights? they got badges guns tazers and back up . so that hurts their credibility even tho there’s exceptions. ball ur fists up but stay loose and practice staying loose when drilling or sparring. and also be able to perry ( to me perrying is striking and and offensive and defensive move) open handed but recover it back into a balled up fist . u know what “ recovering a punch “ is? if u do u get what I mean . or even use elbows to perry if ur to far out of range to land them on the head . I’m not trying to argue but that’s a fallacy. Jocko doesn’t get bullied but people do try me especially if I’m out with my dates or the way I look .
@@joshuairwin1427 not coincidence, just basic. Making a decision is better than sitting around making no decision whatsoever, no shit. I don't know anyone that doesn't make any decisions, just the wtong ones.
I'm listening to this while working out, just finished my workout listening to this whole playlist of Jocko videos on play, video after video. Thank God for this beast of a man 🙌💪
Aggression in life is how you get anywhere. You could be a hermit and be "passive " forever, or you could occasionally go out , meet people and get new experiences. The cost-benedit factor to taking actions versus doing nothing is a no-brainer.
Every problem has a solution. Gotta face down every situation down with focus, strength and aggression and condition your machine to break through every wall. Learn from your mistakes and relentlessly take action forward and you will become naturally authentic in leadership by action. Thanks for the morning inspiration ya'll & keep up the good work!
I heard this too little too late. Just got left, was in a 3 year relationship. Loved the girl to death and all that, ya know how it is. And looking back i needed to make sh*t happen. I was passive aggressive and just trying make everything “happy” all the time. It is what it is I’m getting at it everyday. I guess what I’m really trying to say is thank you Jocko. Taking accountability is the most addictive and greatest thing I started doing. Stay up everybody, and make shit happen don’t wait for nothing 💪🏼
Yes. People will happily take your time and energy if you’re happy to give it. It’s mostly ok if they give time and energy back. But we all tend to think that the happy giving person will always be happy doing that. It’s our human nature to take people for granted and not think about what they’re giving up or not getting.
This has been the biggest problem in my entire life that I'm now only recognising. Every time I'm faced with a hard decision I tend to procrastinate on it and do some other easy soothing task which doesn't benefit me at all. Definitely need to learn to be more decisive and make tough decisions quickly before my life flies by me
Aggression is active energy. It can be useful and destructive in the same way being passive can be useful and destructive. Learn to do what and when. Know what you want, what you need and have the mentality you're entitled to that and the energy or aggression to have them will be natural. When the ego interferes and creates false needs and wants and is motivated by insecurity then that is aggression we typically think of.
Its so strange to see that a decisive attitude can actually be trained. What is even stranger is aggression comes with almost a stubbornness. Not in how action is taken or how you reach the end goal, but a bloody conviction to see a goal met. Its frighteningly useful even in everyday situations.
@11:40 That's an amazingly good example of how to be aggressive in your own way. I've actually used that exact method several times: landlords, bills, bosses etc. It's highly effective.
I used to larp with friends. I learned quickly that when someone comes at you with a spear you have to be aggressive. And if you are using a greatsword and they block, that doesn't mean you pull the sword back. You should try and push through. Aggression more often than not will help you win.
@richard j someones been watching too many 80's action films, as they seem to think that nerd is still an insult these days. Besides, larping isn't too far off from learning a martial art. Just a less practical martial art in modern times.
We may not understand through their eyes of the battlefield and their approach in life after. But I’ve learned is this...literally anything and everything that you see is made through the persons mind. Our minds are the only barriers and that to ease our walls are sometimes in need of different perspectives to change it. We are better than what we expect and greater than we realize
I would love to hear more about how employees can be aggressive to not be destroyed by bad bosses. I am dealing with a difficult boss at work, and even though things sometimes get better, my boss explodes at the smallest inconvenience and it's wearing me down, especially since I am naturally motivated and responsible, and have sacrificed my own rest to be able to work. So this comes at a great time. Here are my notes from Jocko's video: Being aggressive means more than being brash, a loudmouth and in your face. It means taking action, forceful and sometimes overly pursuit of one's aims. Sometimes you have to go a little bit harder, and use force of will to make things happen. How am I going to get through or around roadblocks? If you're more passive, you gotta lean towards being more aggressive, but you need to understand that this is going to cost you. Your default mode must be aggressive; then customize for particular situations. Don't focus on the superficial aspects of aggresive. Being aggressive is not how you're acting, but about the decisions that you're making.
I've never learned anything from you other than your opinion. However, with my own struggles of PTSD, depression and anxiety you HAVE helped me on my bad days. Thank you for what you've done, thank you for your influence and for being who you were meant to be. Thank you for sharing your gift.
Assertiveness means that you express yourself - or take action - openly and honestly, in a way that treats both you and the other person with complete respect (even when you're not sure they deserve it). I know from experience, as well as from other people, that this can actually take quite a bit of courage and tolerance on your part. All this said, I reckon that Jocko's advice here is - as ever - really good; and I personally will be putting into practice all of the strategies I think could be useful to me. And if any of you feel that you could use more help in becoming assertive, then I recommend reading "Be Assertive" by Beverley Hare, one of the best books on the subject. I hear also that "Your Perfect Right" is really good.
I’m a naturally passive person. I’m a teacher and the story about the 7th grade teacher is similar to me. I’ll try flipping that switch and it’s effective, but I know that I need more aggression at a deeper level and not just trying to be surface level aggressive when the students start to get out of control. I’m working hard on taking on a “teaching as a leader” mindset.
As a student I would say that teachers that have deep knowledge of what they teach and manage to pass that knowledge in ways students can relate to get respect from the majority. as for the minority that doesn't comply- you gotta be dead cold and not tolerate them. Kick them out, don't tolerate them. it's not about "grounding" then- that makes them even hard headed, you wanna show them that you really won't tolerate anything that comes in the way of teaching the students that genuinely want to learn
Thank you google for reading my mind and prompting this video for me to watch. I am by nature a passive individual who struggles making decisions for fear of being wrong. Thank you for elucidating this so well and making me feel ok about the errors I know I will make.
I served in Serbian SF 63rd parachute brigade in mid 90’s , one of the most bad ass leaders was this senior Sargent who always spoke in this low tone almost whisper but men we were terrified of disappointing that man, even officers were behaving differently around him. Man was a legend.
This is amazing advice and it’s a great video, the problem with me is that I have anxiety when I’m leadership positions and the anxiety blocks a lot of my critical thinking to where I suddenly have NO IDEA what to do. Like my mind is just blank, too much pressure. And I can’t control the anxiety, it just blocks my thought process.
Context is the most important part of any story. Aggressive before context sounded like beating your subordinates into compliance was the way to lead. After context, the best leader is obviously the locomotive pulling its cars across the tracks. This was a very inspiring conversation that will likely shape my interactions with the younger guys.
Took a semester course for leadership with NOLS last spring, and I 100% agree. A good leader is one that is quick in risk assessment and to take methodical action. hesitation and reserve is the quickest way to fail in a high risk environment.
Inactivity at the face of a challenge with a valuable reward on the other side is a waste. Even if you fail, you will learn more trying than waiting. (Context matter)
Does anybody know where I can find where jocko says this "You cant be complacent and we cant take our foot off the enemies throat. We are going to be relentless. We are not going to give him a chance to regroup. He will not get the chance to recover. We are not going to stop until there is nothing left to pursue" I need to know lol
What I needed to hear.... taking (overt, overly assertive) action [the decisions you make not how you're acting]. And you have to force it that way... you have to make things happen. And not to take no for an answer. Bingo. Carrot and stick analogy is awesome, and how to get to default mode. Hmm, idea for habit-forming from zero: make at least one aggressive decision every day, until default mode becomes aggressive (as opposed to passive). "I am Solving this problem right now" versus not reacting. And accept mistakes. All gold.
Hey Jocko - question for you. And I ask this in all sincerity. Would you say that aggressiveness equates with assertiveness? Interesting to see what others may think.
Being aggressive = you make things happen; you don't take "no" for an answer; you overcome obstacles instead of giving up/being passive. Aggressiveness does not mean being a loudmouth.
In conventional warfare, everyone knows the defenders typically have the advantage (not always). By defaulting to "aggressive", you forfeit your status as a defender and in doing so also forfeit the advantages that come with being a defender. Of course being the aggressor can have its advantages as well. But as a leader it is your job to decide if either "aggressive" or "defensive" offers more advantages. In my opinion you should not default to aggressive or defensive. You should default to analyzing the situation and then picking which is best for you and more importantly the men you are responsible for.
I need to learn to man up and be like this sometimes. The way he's putting it makes sense easily in say a shooter videogame like csgo or insurgency, but to get to the point where I train enough and re-apply to the military and do it for REAL I need to learn to be more confrontational and aggressive in this sense. Too used to being polite and honestly gets you fucked over. Several friends tell me I'm too nice. Had dumb situations where someone's getting in my face, and the extent to which I can keep my cool may be admirable, but plenty of times when I should of KO'd someone, and would have been in the right. Like onetime I said to my friend, sometimes in public I feel like a scared little bunny rabbit and she was laughing so hard she was almost falling over on the floor of this train station. Goddamn.
Ross Kemp just did a podcast with Billy billingham it wasnt the best tbh because Ross was interrupting alot but it was still good when he let him speak
I had a great football/baseball coach that taught this. An aggressive decision that turnt out to be the wrong decision sometimes still made up for itself in having a positive outcome only because the decision was made in an aggressive fashion from the beginning.
I gained six pounds of muscle instantly after hearing this
haha...mental muscle
lol
Tron_23 same
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You got it brother BE AGRESSIVE
Glad you define "aggressive" as "decisive" rather than "loud or threatening"
You don't even have to be loud to be extremely threatening... In a calm quiet voice, after listening to a guy yelling obscenities at me for fifteen minutes about a girlfriend I hadn't even met, I swallowed the last of my beer, and responded. "Yeah, I've got a hundred and a quarter in cash, and could take three days off... you ready?"
He blinked a couple times and asked, "A hundred and a quarter and three days for what?"
"Assault and battery after the first arrest," I replied, "Court costs and all, it's a hundred and a quarter and three days in this state. You didn't know that?" I just did my best to say it as "matter of fact" as I'd be telling someone the price of a cheeseburger.
He left the bar... I've still never met his "girlfriend" (if she exists)...
BUT no, you don't have to be "that kind" of aggressive most of the time. It's a matter (more) of being "Pro-active" rather than "Re-active"... The pro-active do their best to foresee things coming up... issues or just "the next usual step", and they do things about it BEFORE it's detrimental. The RE-active will "wait and see" by default, meandering the whole operation from one crisis to another waiting game, because "it's going to take as long as it takes"...
Nobody's right all the time, but the ones who try to act a little ahead of detriment will cut time, cost, and waste more often than they will hinder operations and leave workers and leaders standing around or stranded mid-project.
There are better ways to "get the point across" than yelling and spewing filth at people. We didn't like our parents shouting "Because I f***ing said so!" when we were hormonally imbalanced teens, and we're not going to care much for it when our bosses shout that sort of crap as adults... BUT a reasonable explanation can impose the convincing argument to get a worker to "prestage" things ahead of the rest of the team "needing" them... even when there's still a chance they won't even need them.
"I'd rather have it and not need it than need it desperately and not have it." ;o)
yeah I don’t respond well to threats . know why? because I really am violent which is why I have to be aware of my surroundings and the type of people...and the volume of my voice . I mean for a little guy I got a huge voice. and when I’m having fun it might attract unwanted attention that would definitely get on my nerves .
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 LMAO I'll take "Shit that never happened" for 500, I bet that line sounded great in the mirror
@@SuperFatAlbert It helps that the actual charges and fines, account for $125 cash and three days in jail...
You wanna go??? I've got some saved up. I'm game... care to see who ends up in worse shape??? I have the cash, so I don't have to give a shit... come on over. We'll have a grand ol' time!
Oh....yeah... while those "seconds count"... the cops are only about half an hour or more away... SO good luck. ;o)
@@SuperFatAlbert probably copypasta
Echo’s biceps are in aggressive default mode.
I was just wondering, "has he always been this big..?" lol
Thats a hard A-firm
“SKINNY KNEES!”
@Patrick Hough qq11qok
@@travisstewart3879 😂😂🤣
Look at a dog. My doberman is aggressive when he's about to chase a rabbit. But he's not angry. He has no beef with the rabbit. Happy as a clam. He just have one goal and one goal only. That's aggression in its purest form
I understand what you're saying, but prey drive and aggression are two totally different things when it comes to dogs.
Sk8 Traveler Those are if you define both words in a vacuum. With regard to aggression in this conversation, it works perfectly, and applies to humans as well, from a psychological perspective.
@@chrisbessey358 It's a flawed analogy, especially from a psychological perspective. We are talking about two different functions of an animal's brain. One is an instinctual function, and the other is a reaction to a situation that is perceived by the dog to be dangerous or uncomfortable. Perhaps from a poetic perspective his analogy makes sense, but certainly not from a logical, scientific perspective.
@@sk8traveler727 you can take anything we humans do. You can be aggressive when you're angry. Most certainly yes. But aggression in its purest form is to reach a goal. Fishes do it. Dogs do it. And humans too
@@heavymeddle28 However you try to spin it, your analogy is factually and logically unsound. I'm not going to argue with you, research the difference between prey drive and aggression in dogs yourself, and you will see that your comparison does not hold up. Sorry, it may have sounded nice, but facts are facts.
people confuse aggression with an emotional anger response. Aggression vs Passivity. It describes action (to aggress), not emotion.
And this is my struggle, I balance my natural aggression with a strong sense of self-doubt (that I developed as I got older). My confidence came mostly from the ignorance of my youth. The person who directed me to this episode is a great guy, young, a bit of a meat head. He also has social anxiety he handles his life with aggressiveness (defense mechanism) mostly because the area we live in is full of high performing humans that are great at debating and after hearing this he feels validated and encourage to continue, being "aggressive" while I've been preaching the value of self doubt and the ability of introspectively look at yourself.
I've always preferred the terms "Pro-active" versus "Re-active"...
SO you've got a choice. You already know there's GOING to be the next issue coming along "down the pipe" in ANY job... You only work peacefully putting things in place like nothing between crises...
The Choice is simple. You can get PRO-active about the next foreseeable issue(s) and try to do something about them before they grind your operation to a halt... costing time and money...
OR you can stand around and be RE-active, waiting for the figurative monkey wrench to crash into the works and then dread facing the people who depend on you from every angle to have ALL those conversations about what you WERE NOT doing.
Pick, and then hope you've made the better decision.
Aggressive leadership in war, means always TAKING ground... always moving FORWARD, because you've decided that you're doing this mission one way or another "come Hell or High Water"... as it were.
Sometimes you can't help playing the "waiting game"... Sometimes that's the right answer, and nobody I've met ever liked the waiting game. BUT anytime you wonder what you should pick, "moving forward" is probably the better choice... and rely on guys around (like Jocko) who would rather "reign you in" than try to "prod you forward". There are probably superiors to your position who DO know better... and it's their duty to reign you in when you don't have all the details to know when you should back off. ;o)
@@gnarthdarkanen7464 Right on. Aggression is bad in normal society. I remember when it became a buzzword and everyone in business started to use it. Most people had a "yuck" response. But I guess being aggressive is more of a winning strategy because we are stuck with this lame use of a word, that requires endless qualification.
If you are up for assault and get all into describing how you aggressively pursued a solution to the problem of the bar fight, good luck. You are probably serving time. The history of the word is not positive, unless you are engaged in something like war.
the opposite of the ''right Aggression'' is the ''emotional female aggression'': become vocally loud, lose common sense, lose self-control, do illogical/irrational decisions, spread chaos and panic
Calv Candie oh man. Thanks for this. I needed this clarification.
"In any moment of decision, the best thing you can do is the right thing, the next best thing is the wrong thing, and the worst thing you can do is nothing."-Theodore Roosevelt
Sometimes nothing IS actually the best choice. Don't be a fool and assume it can never be. But most of the time it's not. Most of the time the idea that doing nothing is good is a lie designed to justify our laziness.
@@michigandersea3485Agreed. It is NEVER best to knowingly do the wrong thing--that's just foolish, regardless who presumably said otherwise.
This has improved my COD Warzone stats.
This has improved my CS performance
What’s ever works for you mean, go for it
Aggression= Making things happen, taking action, keeping the pace going, taking ownership, being driven plus willpower.
Jocko could turn a soy-latte into whiskey with just his voice
Heck yes!
Really?!?
I wish he was my dad.
@@wesleyharrison9014 We all do ;)
Smh
“Aggressive” or not, gotta be willing to make that decision and have those awkward conversations.
Casey Burns Investing I like that. Well worded.
Casey Burns Investing Each one of those conversation you have makes you a stronger person
awkward? 😂😂😂 yeah I deleted my vids because RUclips has lots of passive aggressive people with a tattoo of “ snitch” between their eyes. but yeah I have to harness and channel my aggression because not being aggressive comes unnaturally to me.
but I’ll still repost the strength feats and maybe a few food vids. they got piggies watching these vids . 🐷🐷🐷they’re ready to squeal .
That’s how every conversation for me usually goes lmao
Whenever Jocko and Echo post a clip like this I sit my teen Son down to watch together. We discuss how it applies to our current events in each of our lives. So much valuable information and from such a trusted source. Really appreciate it. 🇺🇸
@@sgt-k9smyth388 passive aggressive?
Romans 10:9, 1 John 1:9, Ephesians 2:8
Spot on Sir. Good form.
Would have loved a father figure like you. My guy wasn’t around. Raised by my mom who is allergic to conflict.
@@bluenerosis7546 tell me you grew up soft, with no competition, no testosterone
My testosterone level increased from just listening to this podcast.
Exactly how I feel
Literally.
same
Hell yeah.
I thought that’s why we all truly listened for
My music teacher was not only aggressive, he was fierce. He would stop everyone every time he heard an error in the band. He would turn purple over chronic errors and was more than happy to call out someone individually to perform solo then crucify them for 'clearly not practicing, showing up unprepared, and making the entire band look like crap.'
We won State competitions in orchestra and marching band every year from 7th grade to graduation.
dudes got Terence Fletcher as his teacher
Well, there's something to be said for that. I can't totally oppose that, but also it might make sensitive people miserable. Sometimes people are whiners, and sometimes they actually are fucked up by mean teachers. Sometimes the end doesn't justify the means. We're not talking about fighting a war or supporting a family here, just a silly little high school band. Hope he didn't turn anyone off music.
Plus the real strength is not in being a disciplinarian to those below you, or in putting up with such an authority figure. It's in being a disciplinarian to YOURSELF. Jocko is always the first to say that it's important to get people on board who you are commanding.
@@michigandersea3485 I promise you that the leaders that made Jacko into a Seal took the same tact as my band teacher.
The people that were 'turned off' by it only saved themselves years of futile 'trying'.
What Jocko is calling "being aggressive" is actually "being proactive". That is, taking action before it's too late to take action is what Jocko means by "being aggressive".
Too bad 90% of the people watching this think that Jocko is affirming having douchey attitudes lol
Andy McKnight Speak for yourself.
@@SuperFatAlbert yea nobody thinks that dude
I see it as being assertive - if we are talking about a business environment. Combat- or conflict-related would definitely be more aptly described as aggressive. Ultimately they’re just labels we are using.
Just cause you don't know the dictionary meaning of basic words doesn't mean we all have that problem 😂
“Sharks don’t sleep” - Combat Diver that I spoke to.
sharks most certainly do sleep- in a shark-way.
sharks are also dumb af and have small brains
Yes they do, its just rare. They normally find a type of underwater cave with a decent current running thru it
This allows them to remain stationary and sleep inside the cave. The current carries the water thru their gills so they don't die as they sleep.
sharks sleep, but they don't stop moving...
Bro, everyone who replied to this comment missed the entire point of it lol
oh man this is exactly what I needed to hear this morning
Good for you. You got aggressive and sought the information.
Jocko is exactly what everyone needs to hear every morning.
I find this so helpful! 👍👍🙏
Get after it bro, we’re all doing the same💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼🔥
Best Sergeant I ever served with was quiet, and very together and someone who was always pushing forward, everyone followed him. He was funny, and he was fatherly, we'd have done anything for him. One of the best most positive men I've ever met.
Inactivity kills. Being proactive will save lifes.
"Speak softly and carry a big stick."
Thank god for these clips because some of us lack a father figure and need direction in life
110%.
Sad but true. People like Jocko and JP have been essential in shaping me
Agreed but also you still need to think for yourself and make you're own choices
. There are some gems of knowledge in the internet but still we lern on our own mistakes and choices
True that
Game recognize game
7:30 "9 times out of 10, being aggressive is gonna be a better move than sitting on your ASS and doing nothing"
absolutely love this. Looking back in my journal, my best results came from aggression. Took people's advice of being passive and my results are not what they were. I'm back now!!!
A good word is DECISIVE, making a hard choice quickly while under pressure.
14:30 (Super Aggressive Music Teacher): we had one! A former Marine, Joe Jameson took our rag-tag high school marching band all the way to top of state championship (SCSBOA) in record time. Kids came home crying, kids quit, but the quality went way, way up. We did door-to-door sales of cups, soap, whatever and bought new uniforms, a new banner sign, etc. etc. AGGRESSION CAN BE POSITIVE!
Did he play your flute aggressively
Yeah. Being aggressive also makes the team feel confident and "safe" too. I have run very large high stress volunteer teams. You gotta be cool with mistakes and you also gotta be direct with expectations. Never get stuck in a moment!
I couldn't agree more. As a government employee, right now allocated to the German health department to lead a larger team of (mostly) volunteers in aiding our health system in Germany during this crisis, being aggressive made my job a lot easier. But not just my job, its also a "confident-boost" for my team members to act more confident and aggressive, when they have to deal with strokes of fate being to told to them on the phone every day, rude people, people threatening them, people that don't obey to orders given, etc. Boosts the morale and makes things more effective. They know what I expect of them, they know they will eventually make mistakes and they know, that I have their backs when it happens. Stay healty!
Hahahahahahahahaha wow
Dichotomy is absolutely Jocko’s 2nd favorite word behind accountability.
As a former military officer, my biggest worry while leaving the service was how to focus my aggression into a business appropriate pursuit. This discussion was a huge help. TY!
"The world only makes sense when you force it to." -Batman, The Dark Knight Returns
Legit
Sounds deep but really isn't
@@osmanbkilic6229 pleb
@@osmanbkilic6229 take a look at the world around you and say that again, stop being mr ImSoWoke
Batman is NOT real guys so neither are his quotes.
You can listen to the whole cut and make it about depression, as something that makes you stay on your ass permanently if you're not aggressive, I lost 15 years of my life cause of it.
Very true, I don’t think people realise the opposite to aggression is depression
Aggressiveness is more useful than fear or depression
I'm glad you caught on, good luck out there.
thats a fuccking bar brother, damn@@daze8644
It's easier to "dial it down", than it is to "dial it up".
says u 😁
I control myself all the time. it’s not easy but I’m not eating prison food the rest of my life. and why does everyone who’s a fan of Jocko a friend of urs my dude? yeah he has his good points but not in every way . and yeah I will insult stupid people because they insult my intelligence. and plus I’m different so people who r assholes often mess up thinking I’m going to be all friendly and nice if they try to harass me. nah they’ll get a broken jaw if they don’t shut up ....or at least punked out because they obviously r trying to fight or bully me . I’m friendly and nice and very generous but people shouldn’t take advantage of those types of people. I wasn’t raised to be a jerk . how does that make me not a man? plus I could kill them if I want to so that is controlling it.
any Jocko fan “ Jesus ....I’m not going to sugar coat how that doesn’t make sense. plenty of people on his channel r my mortal enemies. I’m a gay guy and they’re the type on “ freedom of speech “= I can abuse my freedom because I don’t value it and no one will get mean . how unrealistic is that ? very unrealistic and narcissistic perception that could result in them getting man handled and worse . it takes a way bigger man or women to mind their own business and watch their mouths. because there’s men like me and way worse .
a Vice President who’s a known homophobe and I’m supposed to be cool? after seeing a friend get very messed up from an abusive homophobic family? 😂😂😂😂 his stepdad knows not to be seen by me . and he’s lucky there’s “ government help” because he’d be a mangled corpse if I had it my way. how u like that? don’t ever tell me how to be a man. get it bro? cool.
“ don’t punch in a street fight” is definitely going to get people hurt . for one thing even when ur in a stance ball ur fists up . why? because when the other person starts throwing and ur hands r open or u try palm striking they can catch ur fingers and jam them or break them . how effective will the Jui Jitsu be with broken fingers ? they say “ break ur hands” and it’s ironic. how many cops do u think really got into street fights? they got badges guns tazers and back up . so that hurts their credibility even tho there’s exceptions. ball ur fists up but stay loose and practice staying loose when drilling or sparring. and also be able to perry ( to me perrying is striking and and offensive and defensive move) open handed but recover it back into a balled up fist . u know what “ recovering a punch “ is? if u do u get what I mean . or even use elbows to perry if ur to far out of range to land them on the head . I’m not trying to argue but that’s a fallacy. Jocko doesn’t get bullied but people do try me especially if I’m out with my dates or the way I look .
Most obstacles melt away when we make up our mind to walk boldly through them.
So basically default aggressive = proactive.
ayee
@MrSisterfister100 I don't think you listened to what Jocko was saying.
@@joshuairwin1427 not coincidence, just basic. Making a decision is better than sitting around making no decision whatsoever, no shit. I don't know anyone that doesn't make any decisions, just the wtong ones.
A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
George S. Patton
What about a half ass plan violently executed a day later?
@@SynValorum1 You won't live a day later.
is this one of those COD quotes when you die in campaign?
@@JaredMaldonado LMFAO
Depends on the situation
I'm listening to this while working out, just finished my workout listening to this whole playlist of Jocko videos on play, video after video. Thank God for this beast of a man 🙌💪
"In combat, almost nothing will happen the way you want it to if you don't force it that way."
That hit deep.
being aggressive = FORCEFULLY PURSUING A GOAL, aka MAKING THINGS HAPPEN. thank you so much,.
Aggression in life is how you get anywhere. You could be a hermit and be "passive " forever, or you could occasionally go out , meet people and get new experiences. The cost-benedit factor to taking actions versus doing nothing is a no-brainer.
"Being aggressive is a non-passive form that is immediately known and understood by anything of consciousness." -Noshamey
Every problem has a solution. Gotta face down every situation down with focus, strength and aggression and condition your machine to break through every wall. Learn from your mistakes and relentlessly take action forward and you will become naturally authentic in leadership by action. Thanks for the morning inspiration ya'll & keep up the good work!
Good story
Okay, go solve nuclear fusion then.
Good luck.
I heard this too little too late. Just got left, was in a 3 year relationship. Loved the girl to death and all that, ya know how it is. And looking back i needed to make sh*t happen. I was passive aggressive and just trying make everything “happy” all the time. It is what it is I’m getting at it everyday. I guess what I’m really trying to say is thank you Jocko. Taking accountability is the most addictive and greatest thing I started doing. Stay up everybody, and make shit happen don’t wait for nothing 💪🏼
Yes. People will happily take your time and energy if you’re happy to give it. It’s mostly ok if they give time and energy back. But we all tend to think that the happy giving person will always be happy doing that. It’s our human nature to take people for granted and not think about what they’re giving up or not getting.
This has been the biggest problem in my entire life that I'm now only recognising. Every time I'm faced with a hard decision I tend to procrastinate on it and do some other easy soothing task which doesn't benefit me at all. Definitely need to learn to be more decisive and make tough decisions quickly before my life flies by me
I am aggressively going back to study my exam after listening this
23 passive-aggressive people gave this a thumbs down anonymously.
😂 classic
Passive aggressive is still decision making, you didn't listen very closely.
That's a great explanation of "who dares wins." Thanks, Jocko!
Aggression is active energy. It can be useful and destructive in the same way being passive can be useful and destructive. Learn to do what and when. Know what you want, what you need and have the mentality you're entitled to that and the energy or aggression to have them will be natural.
When the ego interferes and creates false needs and wants and is motivated by insecurity then that is aggression we typically think of.
Its so strange to see that a decisive attitude can actually be trained. What is even stranger is aggression comes with almost a stubbornness. Not in how action is taken or how you reach the end goal, but a bloody conviction to see a goal met. Its frighteningly useful even in everyday situations.
Thank you, that was a great question and a great answer.
I go to my default aggressive mode when I am in a buffet line.
That's a really long way of saying "Don't let your enemy seize the initiative."
@11:40 That's an amazingly good example of how to be aggressive in your own way.
I've actually used that exact method several times: landlords, bills, bosses etc. It's highly effective.
Really enjoy your presentations. This helps our leadership with our groups here in Montana. Thank you, Jocko. Appreciate you, brother.
I used to larp with friends. I learned quickly that when someone comes at you with a spear you have to be aggressive. And if you are using a greatsword and they block, that doesn't mean you pull the sword back. You should try and push through. Aggression more often than not will help you win.
@richard j someones been watching too many 80's action films, as they seem to think that nerd is still an insult these days. Besides, larping isn't too far off from learning a martial art. Just a less practical martial art in modern times.
We may not understand through their eyes of the battlefield and their approach in life after. But I’ve learned is this...literally anything and everything that you see is made through the persons mind. Our minds are the only barriers and that to ease our walls are sometimes in need of different perspectives to change it. We are better than what we expect and greater than we realize
I would love to hear more about how employees can be aggressive to not be destroyed by bad bosses. I am dealing with a difficult boss at work, and even though things sometimes get better, my boss explodes at the smallest inconvenience and it's wearing me down, especially since I am naturally motivated and responsible, and have sacrificed my own rest to be able to work. So this comes at a great time. Here are my notes from Jocko's video:
Being aggressive means more than being brash, a loudmouth and in your face. It means taking action, forceful and sometimes overly pursuit of one's aims. Sometimes you have to go a little bit harder, and use force of will to make things happen. How am I going to get through or around roadblocks? If you're more passive, you gotta lean towards being more aggressive, but you need to understand that this is going to cost you. Your default mode must be aggressive; then customize for particular situations. Don't focus on the superficial aspects of aggresive. Being aggressive is not how you're acting, but about the decisions that you're making.
I just started watching this channel and already love it. Subscribed to the RUclips and Podcast.
I've never learned anything from you other than your opinion. However, with my own struggles of PTSD, depression and anxiety you HAVE helped me on my bad days. Thank you for what you've done, thank you for your influence and for being who you were meant to be. Thank you for sharing your gift.
Assertiveness means that you express yourself - or take action - openly and honestly, in a way that treats both you and the other person with complete respect (even when you're not sure they deserve it). I know from experience, as well as from other people, that this can actually take quite a bit of courage and tolerance on your part.
All this said, I reckon that Jocko's advice here is - as ever - really good; and I personally will be putting into practice all of the strategies I think could be useful to me.
And if any of you feel that you could use more help in becoming assertive, then I recommend reading "Be Assertive" by Beverley Hare, one of the best books on the subject.
I hear also that "Your Perfect Right" is really good.
"Get aggressive with your data."
*Starts swinging HDDs*
Always good stuff this is exactly what I needed in so many realms
Holy shit. I gained 10 years waiting for Jockos point from the 1st question about aggression
I’m a naturally passive person. I’m a teacher and the story about the 7th grade teacher is similar to me. I’ll try flipping that switch and it’s effective, but I know that I need more aggression at a deeper level and not just trying to be surface level aggressive when the students start to get out of control. I’m working hard on taking on a “teaching as a leader” mindset.
As a student I would say that teachers that have deep knowledge of what they teach and manage to pass that knowledge in ways students can relate to get respect from the majority. as for the minority that doesn't comply- you gotta be dead cold and not tolerate them. Kick them out, don't tolerate them. it's not about "grounding" then- that makes them even hard headed, you wanna show them that you really won't tolerate anything that comes in the way of teaching the students that genuinely want to learn
"Get default aggressive with your data"
Love it
Thank you google for reading my mind and prompting this video for me to watch. I am by nature a passive individual who struggles making decisions for fear of being wrong. Thank you for elucidating this so well and making me feel ok about the errors I know I will make.
I served in Serbian SF 63rd parachute brigade in mid 90’s , one of the most bad ass leaders was this senior Sargent who always spoke in this low tone almost whisper but men we were terrified of disappointing that man, even officers were behaving differently around him. Man was a legend.
This is amazing advice and it’s a great video, the problem with me is that I have anxiety when I’m leadership positions and the anxiety blocks a lot of my critical thinking to where I suddenly have NO IDEA what to do. Like my mind is just blank, too much pressure. And I can’t control the anxiety, it just blocks my thought process.
Try the Wim Hof method, if you do it long enough it'll free you of 99% of your anxiety.
@@XxKINGatLIFExX did u try?
If you're trying your failing. If you're failing your trying .
Context is the most important part of any story. Aggressive before context sounded like beating your subordinates into compliance was the way to lead. After context, the best leader is obviously the locomotive pulling its cars across the tracks. This was a very inspiring conversation that will likely shape my interactions with the younger guys.
This man is to be respected. I loved this
0:19 " A sigh for plight of lesser mortals.
This stuff really helps working through ptsd.
I honestly think that every men should listen to this.
Every father should teach this to their sons.
Thanks for doing this. Subbed.
"You should've just taken that point 'cause that was a good point..." 😂👍🏻👍🏻
I’m a part of the 5 AM club and I’m still a little late 😂
Shoutout to u man stay on your grind I'm also a part of 3 am club thise waking up early is doing wonders for my career and my life in general
@@mehulrai9408 what is this club and what are the rules?
@@garghiseenevas1007 first rule about 3 am club is u don't talk about 3 am club
MR IT really?
Holy shit Jocko, your podcast is the best thing ever. Thank you so much for uploading such valuable content. Pure gold.
Took a semester course for leadership with NOLS last spring, and I 100% agree. A good leader is one that is quick in risk assessment and to take methodical action. hesitation and reserve is the quickest way to fail in a high risk environment.
Aggression without the skill of discernment is practically useless and makes you a liability.
Inactivity at the face of a challenge with a valuable reward on the other side is a waste. Even if you fail, you will learn more trying than waiting. (Context matter)
@@gastonmeragonzalez4049 Aggressive idiots are a liability.
Does anybody know where I can find where jocko says this "You cant be complacent and we cant take our foot off the enemies throat.
We are going to be relentless.
We are not going to give him a chance to regroup.
He will not get the chance to recover.
We are not going to stop until there is nothing left to pursue"
I need to know lol
What I needed to hear.... taking (overt, overly assertive) action [the decisions you make not how you're acting]. And you have to force it that way... you have to make things happen. And not to take no for an answer. Bingo.
Carrot and stick analogy is awesome, and how to get to default mode.
Hmm, idea for habit-forming from zero: make at least one aggressive decision every day, until default mode becomes aggressive (as opposed to passive).
"I am Solving this problem right now" versus not reacting. And accept mistakes. All gold.
Thanks Jocko for lessons.
Hey Jocko - question for you. And I ask this in all sincerity. Would you say that aggressiveness equates with assertiveness? Interesting to see what others may think.
This could be a new modern warfare operator alongside Ronin lol
@@harryhunter978 who hurt you bro?
Watching Jocko progress in his amped up attitude as he describes aggression is the best thing I've seen today lol.
The aggression in my brain just stood up and saluted jocko willinks!
Will try that out in Warzone :D
For reasons unclear, my feed stated the thread was taken down by uploader.
THANK YOU!!!
Being aggressive = you make things happen; you don't take "no" for an answer; you overcome obstacles instead of giving up/being passive.
Aggressiveness does not mean being a loudmouth.
In conventional warfare, everyone knows the defenders typically have the advantage (not always). By defaulting to "aggressive", you forfeit your status as a defender and in doing so also forfeit the advantages that come with being a defender.
Of course being the aggressor can have its advantages as well. But as a leader it is your job to decide if either "aggressive" or "defensive" offers more advantages.
In my opinion you should not default to aggressive or defensive. You should default to analyzing the situation and then picking which is best for you and more importantly the men you are responsible for.
Did you learn that playing battlefield with your gran
@@harryhunter978 Why? Has your gran not taught you that yet?
@@UnknownUser-cn3rv no she plays call of duty
That's some waffle
Aggressive doesn't mean loud - it means taking charge
Good stuff. Time to apply in life.
Wow, thanx guys, really inspirational!
I need to learn to man up and be like this sometimes. The way he's putting it makes sense easily in say a shooter videogame like csgo or insurgency, but to get to the point where I train enough and re-apply to the military and do it for REAL I need to learn to be more confrontational and aggressive in this sense. Too used to being polite and honestly gets you fucked over. Several friends tell me I'm too nice. Had dumb situations where someone's getting in my face, and the extent to which I can keep my cool may be admirable, but plenty of times when I should of KO'd someone, and would have been in the right. Like onetime I said to my friend, sometimes in public I feel like a scared little bunny rabbit and she was laughing so hard she was almost falling over on the floor of this train station. Goddamn.
That's deeper than my girlfriends throat.
Jocko try and get Ant Middleton, Mark Billingham or Jason "foxy" Fox, they are amazing former SBS and SAS soldiers it'll be awesome!!
im getting chills just thinking about it :))
Ross Kemp just did a podcast with Billy billingham it wasnt the best tbh because Ross was interrupting alot but it was still good when he let him speak
or jay morton
Matt Smith Yehh I agree, I reckon jocko is a way better interviewer tbf
Matt Smith yesss I completely forgot
yes this is very usefull in every situation..thank you for your time
I had a great football/baseball coach that taught this. An aggressive decision that turnt out to be the wrong decision sometimes still made up for itself in having a positive outcome only because the decision was made in an aggressive fashion from the beginning.
Am I the only girl watching this? I'm just sick of being bullied
Haha lol, why are you watching this?
@@Ulvmannsskjebne Seems like you haven’t learned much from this channel...
@@bogusbounty5172 Sure, Mr. White Knight clown
Get aggressive and turn up your drive to survive. Its not about strength, or being violent. It’s about knowing your going to go as far as it takes
@@Ulvmannsskjebne Um, Jocko would think you're a shit.
Why are the "The Thread" Videos deleted. Can't even listen to the podcast via google podcasts. What is happening?
I came to the newest video for the same reason..
Me too. Could be too graphic?
Taken down for some reason. Maybe some classified stuff? Idk
Yeah, What the hell happened? I was looking forward to watching the sword of destruction episode, but now it’s gone? Why?
Philip Kastinger So many interesting videos are getting removed, now. Has anyone noticed? This is not a good sign.
Jocko & Echo are an amazing blend of balanced personalities and ideas.
Loved this video.
percussion is the hardest music major. imagine all the percussion instruments out there.