Game of Thrones Symbolism: The Greyjoys
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- We continue our Game of Thrones House Symbolism series with a deeper look at House Greyjoy and the Ironborn way of life. Get 10% off your first Squarespace purchase at www.squarespace.com/ScreenPrism
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* Walsh, Kathleen. "15 Things You Didn’t Know About House Greyjoy." 28 June 2016.
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That actor playing Theon is the absolute best Dramatic TV acting I have ever seen!! His range is SICK!!
I agree , especially since his older sister is singer Lilly Allen
Alfie Allen.
His sister wrote a song about him baxk in the day lol
One of the best no cap
The Guy Who Killed Wick's Dog? Ok
Their ceremony to drown and come back is completely nuts.... But epic at the same time.
it's a good thing theon doesn't have nuts
Andrea M "Completely nuts" What do you mean? It's the Westerosi version of a baptism.
Last Baratheon during baptism you aren't deliberately drowned, just dipped in water, unlike the Ironborn ritual were drowning is an essential part.
apparently baptism used to nearly drown you anyway so
A finger In the bum
Theon's arc also seems to mirror the theme of resurrection in the Drowned God's religion. Theon is "killed" by Ramsay, only to be "reborn" once free. And, as we see in the final episode of Season 7, Theon is absolved by Jon, and appears to be stronger (both physically and morally) than he was before his capture. After his torture, he rises again, harder and stronger than he was in the earlier seasons. Yes, he falters and stumbles, but he is stronger nonetheless.
The Greyjoys may not sow, but this show totally does!
Doesn't feel like he was "reborn" after he abandoned his sister. Still a weak coward in my eyes
He more than likely has PTSD from his experiences. Being horrifically tortured can do that to you
@@jiryaC PTSD doesn't mean he's weak - but that he can regress, but he does redeem himself.
@@ferrancabezadevaca8899 yeah only cause he aint got balls
The removal of Theon's little theon could also be a perverse take on the Greyjoy motto: We do not sow. As Theon no longer has any seeds to sow with.
Theon remains my favorite character, book or show. His split between the family that birthed him and raised him, Independence or submission, honor and power, ect is some of the best storytelling in ASoIaF imho
my fave too, him and asha/yara
me: I take a cheese burger and a coke
Chasier: what do you want to pay with?
me: I pay the iron price
*breaks cashiers neck*
best comment in history of YT :)
Lmfao
LMFAO im literally in tears. ugh i haven't been well for 2weeks but your comment made me burst out laughing LOL thx M8
FelicityGemini hope you're feeling better :)
@@Number1Centre I am actually thank so much 😘
“We do not sow” is definitely a really weird thing to say proudly. Like, he’s literally saying “we don’t farm our food like normal people. We sail up to the farmer’s land and steal all his crops before gutting him like a pack of rabid psychopaths.” Like, bro, just take some seeds next time and save yourself the trouble of constantly having to risk your life for every grain of wheat you need to eat.
You're assuming that they're in a place where the land can be farmed. It's very likely that the there is little to no fertile land on the Iron Islands. Especially with how rocky and mountainious the area is.
You're a great listener. I missed that line 🤣🤣🤣. Great point! Reminds me of Neegan and the Savior's🤣🤣🤣. Just a few seeds! Man, you seen some of the land in that area🙌🙌.
Pirates do usually live in some harsh wasteland like north Africa's berber coast or Scandinavian península.
Aside from the fact that you don't know shit about agriculture, you're wrong.
They don't fear death as much when they're raiding and even take pride in that. Also, why would you work until your back hurts and wait for your crops to grow when you can feast like a king and even have some nice stories to tell?
Life is not minecraft, you don't just take some seeds and plant them somewhere
"Joffrey and Ramsay Bolton" makes it sound like they're married
They are the same league
I mean they might actually like each other except fo Joffrey being all homophobic. Dorne would except them
"We can defeat anyone at sea" Except Stannis "Storm Lord" Baratheon. Fear the Storm God Ironborn, fear him.
Stannis the Mannis
I was just thinking of Stannis😂
Ironborn are experts at sea they just don't have the numbers. That's one of the reasons they lost the war.
@@noxflo897 And they're not soldiers. They don't have discipline and strategy, so Stannis used that to his advantage along with the bigger ships of The Royal Family.
"What is dead may never die" is probably a reference to H.P Lovecraft's "that is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die", from Call of the Cthulu
An interesting thing, too, is that they, due to all their lore with the sea, have been associated with some Lovecraft-like denizens of the deep, and their saying sounds much like the first half of the Lovecraftian couplet
"That is not dead which cannot die,
And with strange aeons, even death may die."
What is bread may never rye
Brizer121 hhhhh
What is straight may never bi
What is sober may never high
What is wet may never dry!
What is debt may never die
One of the most underrated houses in Game of Thrones!
Absolutely love the Greyjoys!!
Fesont Why? Because he has a bigger cock than most of them?
You're a Greyjoy and you're a Stark ~Jon Snow
I hope Theon will say something like that to Jon on S8 "You're a Targaryen and you're a stark".
I love this series. I don't think I ever found such great analysis of the GOT houses and trust me I've been looking.
Zurgle Beatler
Check out Order of the Green Hand if you want truly in depth analysis of the books 😉
Michael K thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.
Carolyn Carolyn yeah but she never followed through on some of the other houses. Plus I think screenprism has a much more thought out writing style.
My dream for season 8 : Euron wakes up on a cross. Theon appears and whispers to him "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention".
That would epic! Ramsey's legacy goes on through Theon!
Morgoth The Real MVP I want Euron to use some sort of horn to raise and control a Kraken. It's not dragon binder, but it would be amazing
Nah, not happening Dragons have already taken away the CGI budget
bruuhh
Morgoth The Real MVP Yeah probably. It's just wild, completely unfounded speculation.
Absolutely love these videos. Love the symbolism. Can you do a character analysis of Cersei?
Carrick McCormack u
Carrick McCormack I think she already did it
Watch the AltShiftX breakdown on her. It is better than any other breakdown you will see
Watch Psychology Seattle Cersei Lannister
Carrick McCormack my analysis if cersei is that she is a cunt that's not as smart as she thinks
I have no idea why I love Theon so much. He just seemed so torn between the two worlds he is from, Stark and Greyjoy.
He was a good man. Thank you.
In other words, the vikings of Westeros.
Tom Carpenter More like a caricature of the Norse, but yeah.
Not really, because Vikings grew food and hunted back home in Scandinavia.
On regards of the sailing and the speculations about after life rewards. Vikings were very gender egalitarian though, they might have even included their version of non-binary people fully into their society. And they were great at land battles, much like the Dothraki are presented before season 8, but of course on feet. Part of their society grew crops and had cattle, like the ones they abandoned in Iceland.
@@halloweenallyearround4889 Non Binary does not exist. Unless you're a Hermaphrodite
kek
when y'all gonna do House Pie of Flea Bottom
What is dead may never die.
But rises again, harder and stronger.
Does this mean Theon has a chance of getting Little Theon back, only, now new and improved?
Nervous System Naaaaaahhhhh. Even the Drowned God can't help that.
Miss Fadillah Dead men tell no tales
Bhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh bonk
All of this is true, which is why one of the (many) things about the series finale that seemed a little "off" was Yara's willingness to accept Bran as her king, especially when his own sister insisted on Northern independence. Didn't Yara bring up Ironborn independence as part of the deal when she was negotiating to join forces with Daenerys?
Yara is definitely one of the best characters in the show
Excellent breakdwon, as always! I find it interesting that ironborn have little respect for emotional people, women, and those who make alliances and gain power from marriages and so on. And look who are the last 3 Greyjoys left: Theon, the emotional one; Yara, a woman; Euron, the one who gained power through his future marriage. Anyway, I loved all of your videos thus far, and I'm looking forward to more. I expect House Martell soon😉
Game of Shows, you forgot euron's brother, who is on the contrary the ironborn to the core (that helps him little though)
Wah wah
@@merunesdrazor i wish they had victarion in the show
The Ironborn always seemed to me like a variation on the “Philistine” category; people who take pride in their ignorance and sneer at what most other groups consider normal, civilized, or cultured. In the Histories & Lore features of the Blu-Rays, other characters also point out the Ironborn tendency to become so drunk on their perceived sense of superiority that they fail to understand simple concepts, which usually lead to their defeat.
I don't know about others but according to me, the Greyjoy soundtrack is the best...
The Firepheonix You're not the only one. I love it too.
You mean after the Queen of Thorns soundtrack?
The Firepheonix Did you mean to misspell phoenix in your username?
TheSaiyanPrincess89 Yeah its deliberate
Soundtrack?
Ok this actually gave me some respect for House Greyjoy and the "Old Way" of life. Really cool video!
Hell, the Normans did it. They went from being Viking raiders to settling down, speaking French and adopting the French legal code, and outlawing slavery. What were they on?!?
The Western Frankish Empire or The Kingdom of France was so weakened and destabilized that they allowed The Vikings under Rollo to settle down and operate as an independent state.
(8:34) "the kraken is a mythical creature both in the real world"
yeah tell that to the many ships in Westeros that got absolutely reked by these blood obsessed beasts.
Do symbolism the wildlings and dothraki
Joey Kevorkian They don't really use symbols of any kind.
Not directly. Their appearance seems inspired by the mongolians and huns (although their blades are closer to a kopesh). They looted a lot of symbols, but don't use any of their own. Their language may be more interesting to analyse.
Greyjoys: We can defeat anyone at sea.
Stannis: Hold my water.
I have no idea why this channel doesn't have more subs
Charles lezama because if square 10% promotion.
Theon Greyjoy was the best character in this story.
Vikings at least traded and built stuff
Sergio Milho What did they built?
I'm your father Baxter right on point
Constantine V towns like York, Dublin, Reykjavik, Kiev(disputed) and many more in lands they settled
Denmark
They also grew crops and kept cattle.
I absolutely love Yara
Jaime Lannister- i know ironborns they not good at anything. LOL
They are bitter, angry, little people
Gökçe Okbay Just like RUclips commenters
Jaime gave the most accurate, honest description. Their king (Balon) scolded Theon for buying a golden chain instead of stealing it (Theon could just lie, but he was never a great thinker, neither are ironborn though). Overall, a cancer society who did nothing good for Westeros. But damn, Victarion book chapters are pure heavy metal. Everyone freaks at White Walkers, plays politics, struggle to survive or undergo complicated character development. Victarion just sails in and murders everybody.
Master Exploder but he still got his ass handed to him by Stannis the Mannis lol
@@masterexploder9668 I am sorry but no, Iron Islanders have been huge Lannister enemies throught the history, and very formidable ones, not to mention before Aegon conquest Iron Borns were the strongest faction in the 7 kingdoms. So no Jaime was VERY wrong about it.
Theon isn't a beloved character in the fandom to let others tell it. I think his character arc is one of the better ones in the series.
The show ruined the image of the greyjoys compared to the books. Only lately the show has done the book greyjoys justice, and still not even
King of Oxydents stop watching the show then, why do book fans bitch so much do you expect them to have a budget / time span big enough to add 100s of new characters, plots, sub plots to 10 episodes ?!
Divine Intervention I'm not even a "book fan" as such. I love the show, even more than the books for the most part. Just saying they messed up the greyjoy storyline until season 6. Same as they did with Dorne, surely you can agree on that one?
How so? I have never read the books.
Aye, I agree with ya King of Oxydents! The Dornish have been played for fools in the show and made to be utterly despise by everyone watching, and as for their portrayal of Asha/Yara? Heck I have been expecting a whole lot more of her this season as a bloody POV character in the books yet only one episode and splurting about half a dozen lines! A fucking disgrace if you ask me!
darkstar6909 Prince Doran (wheelchair man in Dorne) was a peacekeeper in the books, a ruler sitting atop a beehive of people upset at the death of Prince Oberyn (the Red Viper). He has a daughter who feels she is lesser in her father's eyes because he keeps presenting her with disgusting suitors, though he never forces her to accept one (which is another reason he's regarded a weak ruler, an image he cultivates). In defiance she convinces Myrcella's Kingsguard protector to let her take the girl and put a crown on her head, presenting her to Westeros as a contender for the Iron Throne. She is betrayed, Myrcella is badly hurt (though not killed at this point), and Ser Oakenshield dies valiantly trying to protect his 2 princesses. When finally brought before her father this younger Martell is given his reasoning for trying to appear weak: he has been conspiring to undermine Baratheon rule since his sister Elia's death. She was presented with old, fat, lame suitors that she would reject to keep up appearances, as she and her brother (the boy who showrd up with his friends on Daenerys' doorstep and stupidly tried to approach the dragons beneath the pyramid) were betrothed to the remaining Targaryens. Even as far as Book 5, the Sand Snakes have only ever been a dangerous nuisance, not a power on their own.
I don't know why, but in french version of the books, they translate kraken into cuttlefish.... Not as impressive as the original sigil is XD
Omg whyyy 😅😅😅
@@KrisJavier There's some weird translation choices, they also translated direwolf into werewolf, because direwolf does not really exist in french ^^
Theon embodies his families words very well because he literally cannot sow after Ramsay ✂️
I love the Greyjoys , they are so easily un liked because they are just so well written lol. Such a great house to have in the show, and im glad they are finally being used appropriately. I am on team Yara aka Asha all day! that woman is truly Iron Born .
Theon Kraken-rider vs Euron's Iron-fleet!
New Prophecy of the Three Headed Dragon with Daenerys riding Drogon, Jon riding Rhaegal, and Theon riding a Kraken (the dragon of the sea)!
I'm down for that three dragon prophecy
Naga was the sea dragon
.....no, Jon riding a dragon would make me throw up
Rhaena Targaryen
What are you saying? Aegon VII has to ride a dragon at least once.
Dorne/Martells next (but please take info from the books not the show for that one).
Harvey K yes please
Yes, definitely, ignore the show. :D
agree
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Krakens have actually apeared in the release chapters of winds of winter.
ScreenPrism I'm so happy you guys got a squarespace sponsorship
ScreenPrism Please do the Martells
Brecht Dunford spoilers much?
ScreenPrism Please do House Mormont next followed by House Clegane than House Martell than House Dayne :)
"We can defeat anyone at sea"
Except Stannis "The Mannis" Baratheon during the Greyjoy Rebellion apparently.
Good lord!!
Victarion Greyjoy, on of the most badass characters in ASOIAF, is always ignored. Nice video tho
Theon looks more like Euron than any father/son duo on this show
I think there was another Greyjoy in the show, Aeron (the Priest).
Considering the Kingsmoot and leading of the Ironborn, he's out of the game. The Drowned Men serve only the Drowned God, not any particular house; he's gonna have to ignore his personal allegiance (kinda like the maesters, who serve not one family but only the castle they're stationed at).
Or my boi Victarion.
Why Damphair I'm the godliest man alive . You serve one god, the drowned god but I serve a thousand for from Ibb and Asshai, whenever men see my sails ...........They PREY.
Damn, a Kraken appearance would’ve been insane
Euron will probably come back with the Golden company to take the throne for himself in typical Greyjoy fashion.
AR21 I think he will stay loyal to Cercei, she will send in her army to the north after the north and alles have defeated the white walkers with heavy losses, and Dorne comes in for ultimate revenge, i refuse to believe that a house as powerfull as Martell, will just stand by after they lost so much to the Lannisters.
I love these in-depth analysis on GoT houses! More!
These are always so well made- great job :)
My wife and I love your videos, smooth transition describing everything
There is some serious Lovecraft references with the Greyjoys
Ah! I'm so happy you guys did this house! Great video you guys ♥️
How I enjoy this searies :)Thanks again for your brilliant work here!
Love the videos and will continue to support the channel
I thoroughly enjoy your vids. Really,thanks for the effort
Love these videos! Please keep making them!
I love these videos, please keep them coming!
your Game of Thrones Symbolism Videos are great!
just found your channel, already love it!
love these videos, glad i found your channel!
Been waiting for this one!!!
You girls do well to entertain me and provide great content.
This was a well researched video, thank you!
Favorite house for some reason
I love this channel so much!
What is dead may never die!
next House Dayne pls.
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I love these!!! Can you do Tully and Mormont??
These are awesome videos!
These videos are soooooo goooood
nice job guys
Would love to see Tully or the Martells. Thank you for these awesome videos
Man I love how the went into "depth" with this video, get it? With the closeness to water?.....and the sea? .....krakens? 🦑
For anyone wondering: the music used in the background from 1:36 to 3:48 is called "Fall of the solar king".
I can't wait for a Martell house symbolism. I love these videos.
We'll miss you squidling 😔
Great analysis
Shout-out to Victarion Greyjoy, you won't be forgotten Vicky, even though the show did
I can't wait for your next GoT video!
By far my favorite house‼️❕❕
I would love it if you started doing some of the smaller houses, like the Mormonts and the Tullies.
Please do more of the other Houses! :)
Still grieving that Victarion is left aside in the show. My favourite character by far
Theon, you had it coming!
Love the videos. Now that season 7 is over and we have the big parentage reveal confirmed, can you do an updated video on R + L = J? Your Rhaegar video is fantastic but we got a bunch of confirmed stuff at the end of season 7.
Love this serie
Plz make moar of it
The Greyjoys are like the Romans in reverse. Whereas the Greyjoys are powerful at sea but not on land, the Romans were excellent soldiers but poor sailors.
Please do the sense8!
Your analysis are awesome.
Quality video as always...now the s7ep7 title makes more sense in relation to theon...he's effectively a water dragon (kraken) and a wolf. 👌👏
great video, hopefully you'll do a house Martell video! 😊
Please do house Martell! I'd love to hear you narrate the story and origin of their house!
These are fantastic!!! Martells next please?
Love these GOT symbolism series. Please do the Martels next :D
Yessssss thanks for this!
Thank you.
Stannis defeated them at the sea
Rebirth. Theon pays the "iron price" with Ramsey and "dies" now that he is dead as Theon Greyjoy he is reborn as Reek. When he is about to be killed by Euron he runs away, because is pride as Theon is dead and what is dead may never die. The Greyjoys themselves die and are reborn by the hardship of their constant conflict. The Greyjoys who fight in roberts rebellion die off because they sought confict, and they are forged like iron by the "impurities" being killed off in the family line. Theon represents the ways of the drowned god (for the reasons listed above) and Euron represents the storm god. Euron gains strength from destroying and Theon gains strength from being destroyed. Similar to how the ocean becomes for fearsome when acted upon.