Game of Thrones Symbolism: The Tyrells
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- We continue our series on the deeper meaning of the Game of Thrones house symbols with a look at the Tyrells. Buy or rent the series on Amazon: amzn.to/2uQIt2t
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I wish you had included Willas and Garlan Tyrell in this video
Noah Orakwue The Tyrells in the books (like Willas and Garlan) contradict a lot of the points made in this video. This is definitely only show specific.
On Garlan Tyrell, I hope he's a POV in the next books. He's one of the best non-POV characters in the series.
nextpkfr good point and thanks for the feedback! Our videos series is about the show, although we use information from the books to shed more light on the series. Why do you think the series cut them out?
Hi ScreenPrism, I found this in your "about" page. "ScreenPrism is where you go to understand more about the movies & TV shows you're watching". Can we be expecting TWD videos then?
ScreenPrism please make a Symbolism of the Starks
OKAY, let's be clear about one thing. Cercei did not outsmart Margeary, she out-crazied her.
And you could argue that not even that, as she smelled cercei's plan to blow up the sept and tried to get out of there ASAP she just had bad luck with others stoping her/not listening
@@NicaremE 6:59 what episode is this
Cersei isn't smart at all just cock hungry and crazy.
@@NicaremE And not even that, because everybody listen to her. She was so amazing that the High Sparrow thought that the people stop to love Margaery or stop to see her as their true Queen, but the moment she yell: "We all need to leave, NOW", literally everybody but the sparrows listen to her and were trying to leave the Septon. It was the Hight Sparrow envy that stopped Margaery to leave the Septon, since he didn't get why everybody followed her command of leaving the place immediately.
Cerceis quote "power is power" really makes sense here and that is how her character operates. Even though mergeary deduced what cersei was up to, she was powerless to stop it.
Gotta miss the Tyrells.....especially Margeary and Ollena.....
The Un Und Unly
Maergery was a whore in golden sheets....olena is true badass....loved that old lady.
Ellinon Enosis in Westeros Culture Noble Women struggle to have power. The way they get by is to be manipulative. Do you think Sansa deserved being tormented by Joffrey. Well Margery playing the game saved her from making him mad!
The Un Und Unly I liked Loras too. It was refreshing with a golden knight type character.
Only reason Olena wasn't also a "whore in golden sheets" is she was old and no longer able to seduce people as she once was able to. She openly admits to that.
Oh well, whatever works XD
Margaery is LITERALLY the only one who played the game without any blood on her hands. That itself is a PHENOMENAL feat
You do have to respect that.
She knew and was involved in the plot to kill Joffrey and which means she was willing to let Sansa take the fall for it (which definitely would have led to her death). Also, the Tyrells were responsible for the smallfolk of KL starving and then played hero by bringing food when they decide to marry Maergery to Joffrey. This family is despicable.
Starr Lykes she didn’t find out until after the fact when her grandmother Lady Olenna told her.
Carolina GoldGirl They changed that in the show. In the books she absolutely knew, which made more sense since not letting her in on the plan put her life in danger if she were to drink from the same cup as him. Margaery is a lot more morally grey than D&D portrayed her as.
Starr Lykes I kept thinking that too when replaying their wedding scene....it doesn’t make sense when you think about it to not let her in on the plan. Olenna could’ve killed Margaery carelessly. I’m not sure how the writers didn’t catch that. It made Olenna seem stupid and careless in that scene when she’s always been portrayed as cunning and smart quick witted. It’s a bit of a plot hole to the scene.
There was not one Tyrell that I didn't like, which is more than I could say of any house. I'll miss them 😢
Brian Baratheon same
Brian Baratheon I like all the Starks too.
starks?
i didn't like margerys brother. he was making nothing but problems and has an annoying personality
Riad al-Assad /MappingArm/ Catelyn was a cunt tho. I know she's a tully, but married into House Stark
My fictional family is all dead, they were my favorite in the show. They're kinder than the Lannisters but more cunning and fierce than the Starks back then. They brought some ray of sunshine in the show, some sass and spice. They were the spring in the middle of winter.
Rome Blanchard Growing Strong. House Tyrell forever.
House Tyrell FOREVER ❤️
I'm not so sure. Not going off the books (partially due to my ignorance, partially due to the show diverging more and more), while the heads of the house may be dead (by fire) and anything remaining may at least mostly die (by ice), I wouldn't be surprised if there's a hint by the end of the story that something Tyrell may stand a chance to grow out of the ashes and receding of the frost - the 'dream of spring'. Even to the point of future royalty (I doubt the series will have a 'single winner' ending). However, yes, I'm certain that at least almost all focus on them is done. But they were not to be a 'winter' house. Things are too chaotic and will get too oppressive.
Rome Blanchard same, I connected with them on so many levels. They're the house my friends saw me as, I have brown hair and eyes, I'm gay, and they're based on the French, which is my ancestry. RIP House Tyrell
+MrAmerican711 OMG! Same, I also have Tyrell features, and I've connected with them especially Margaery so much that I'm still mourning her I guess. (well that's a bit extra but it's real). Margaery's death is one of the fictional death I won't get over.
The only thing that bothered me about the video was when it was said "Cersei outsmarted Margaery." That is false. Margaery knew very well what was going on, it was the High Sparrow that was outsmarted, Margaery was caught in the crossfire. (No pun intended)
THIS
Black Rose that's true I wasn't she knew what was going to happen
No, Cersei did outsmart Margaery, if it wasn't for Cersei Margaery would of not been arrested.
You can be outsmarted even if you know what's going on if you simply can't figure a way to counter it
@@eyeseeyou9411 lmao Cersei got arrested as well, it was pretty laughable when I read about it
Lady Olenna was one hell of a women.
Chris A When I realized she was played by Diana Rigg, I nearly wept. I loved her film and tv roles in the 60-70’s. She plays strong women so very well.💛
😘
I miss her
Olenna is literally one of my favorite characters in any TV show or movie
Ah yes, one hell of a women, just like Ned was one hell of a men.
I don't think Cersei 'outsmarted' Olenna at all. Olenna just couldn't fathom how deep Cersei's rabbit hole went. It's hard to play a game of 'wits' when your opponent is insane, stupid, and utterly unpredictable. It would have been better for the Tyrells to either annihilate Cersei entirely (which they aren't capable of) or never set foot in king's landing.
they have to - their entire validity was dependent on the targaryans. when the last dragon was wiped, old feelings of discontentment that they are lords of the reach began to resurface. they have to make a bold move. because they fought against baratheons and is the only targ supporter left! they're prime for picking and replacement. they need to get in the game or they know it's a matter of time before they get usurped considering how stannis' wife is a florent and they firmly believe the reach belonged to them. they may gather support and uprise against the tyrells. sadly, it was so sudden they had limited options to work with.
exctly ... it is like bringing a gun to a sworfight
If one can't tell that his opponent is insane, or stupid, and thus finds him "utterly unpredictable", then one is, by definition, not very smart :)
Come on now Cersei isn't "StUpId"...Insane maybe Unpredictable hell yeah but not stupid or she would have died wayyyy in the beginning of the show.
Blessing she is, her whole thing is wanting her kids to take the throne and what happened in the end. She is lucky that she is a lannister, as many was/is loyal to tywin.
Tyrell's rose from fire, and fell by fire.
gay
Grow up Tim
P̷s̷ʏ̷ᴄ̷ʜ̷ᴏ̷ᴛ̷ɪ̷ᴄ̷ R̷ᴀ̷ɪ̷ɴ̷ʙ̷ᴏ̷ᴡ̷ᴢ̷ I think it was a play on words cuz rose....
P̷s̷ʏ̷ᴄ̷ʜ̷ᴏ̷ᴛ̷ɪ̷ᴄ̷ R̷ᴀ̷ɪ̷ɴ̷ʙ̷ᴏ̷ᴡ̷ᴢ̷ , Stannis would be proud :')
by lions, really
Lady Olenna stole the show in every scene she was in. Best grandma ever!
Google the actress for Olenna in her youth! She was literally a supermodel and stunning ❤ you can see it still in her eyes but for real, in her youth stunning, and now she stuns with her words and strength even as an actor I love her characters lol. Lady Olenna probs my favourite
It isn't even a "seemingly" good nature, they do have a good nature.
They are never unjustly ruthless. They are quite literally "good", and worth every bit of respect.
François-Marie d'Églantine absolutely true
Leave it to the French to think that the Tyrells are "good" lmao
@@Anon-fd8ui Most modern day "good" commoners operate like Tyrells in real life. They truly are good, what else can they do that's better?
@@blessedevelyn339 They literally starve the people of King's Landing (and presumably other parts of the Seven Kingdoms) so that they can *appear* heroic by personally bringing food to the people when they parade Margaery into the city.
They are every bit as manipulative and conniving and ruthless as anyone else, using a fabricated public image of "the nobles who care!" simply in order to hold additional sway in their political machinations, and are willing to starve entire cities to do it. They are manipulative, and their tactics are influenced by ones used in real life by equally manipulative political animals throughout history. Only gullible buy into the Tyrell image of "good nobility."
@@Anon-fd8ui They are in a WAR do you want them to feed their enemies? Hey why don't they just strap a pillow to olenna so the king and his army can comfortably fuck the tyrells into the dirt.
I think that you judge Tyrells too harshly in some aspects, their benevolence wasn't merely a facade, through some interactions with various characters following Olenna and Margery I've noted that they indeed share a feature of kindness, sometimes suppressed by calculative and shrewd persona. They did want power and advancement of their family but were never unnecessarily evil, harmful or cruel to anyone. What I want to say - I think Tyrells were in fact good people. I wouldn't mind having them to guard my back or befriend /drink with most of them. One man they ever poisoned was Jofferey - biggest, meanest cunt in westeros. In my opinion Margery (but Oleanna too) were perfect monarchs and perfect mesh of personality traits for ruler in that cruel society - intelligent, calculated, shrewd, patient, friendly, positive and ruthless. A perfect wife and queen. Btw this is high quality vid, good material you have here guys. Thumbsup.
While i agree that they are not the most "evil" house in the realm, we should not forget that they did not hesitated to starve king's landing on purpose when they were team Renly. This is exactly the same thing a "vilain" like Tywin Lanister would do
you're forgetting how easily swayed and hypocritical the people of king's landing are. I would've starved them too.
You would have, and it still would have been a deliberate mass killing.
They are civilians oppressed by the rulling class, they are the real victims of game of throne, but sure starve them all.
Yuva Ben-Younes Lol what, thats what you do in war. Even Tyrion's plan was to starve kings landing in season 7.
Jaime - I prevented Cersei from torturing you to death. Here's a poison that will kill you painlessly.
Olenna - I killed your kid lol
Only thing that annoyed me with Olenna. Of course, that was just because of Jamie kinda going good. Had he stayed his beginning of show self, it'd be her finest moment.
Why put quotes around things neither said?
@@tessdurberville711 fine the quotation marks are gone happy now? HAPPY?
@@0mnicide YES!!!🤭
The Tyrells are (were) my favorite noble family.They symbolised the capability of playing well the big game. If Cercei and all the other Lanisters hadn't trapped them with The Faith Of the Seven and the wild fire after it, the Tyrells would have propably been wining the game by now. "Other Great Houses take lions and wolves for their sigils and draw their power from the goald in their mountains or the cold of their winters. But mountains run dry, winter yields to spring and the Rose blooms once more."
By Margery Tyrell
Beautiful quote (still feeling the sadness of there deaths occasional as I binge rewatch
Olenna really was the queen of thorns right up to her death, hopefully Daenerys avenges them
Tera Belle yes she did... just watched leaked episode, Dany burned half of the lanister army and tarly as well... sorry for spoiling.
Vaibhavkumar Patil nigga... edit your comment and say spoiler alert, how you about to spoil something and then apologize for it on the internet this is hella pre meditated 😂😂
Vaibhavkumar Patil wtf why r u triggered? You're the one who spoiled man
Vaibhavkumar Patil nigga u dumb as fuck
She died? The fuck? What is even happening in the TV show anymore? :/
I feel like the Tyrell's are the real wealthiest family in Westeros. Unlike the Lannister's, whose wealth is based on a gold vein which will inevitably run out, the Tyrell's have access to a constant and endless source of wealth; food.
And what is gold if there’s no food
@@EmyNthe Hightower side of the family is said to be as rich, if not richer, than the Lannisters so we can just imagine that the Tyrells are wealthier than they let on.
That's also why they seem less brutal than the Lannisters and care abour PR. If the people revolt, the fields don't get worked. The Lannisters can afford to "not care for the opinion of the sheep" since they don't need them to sustain themselves.
@@nunyabiznes33 Well, they still need people to get the gold, and Idk if people would stop making food
If Margaery Tyrell or Loras had won the Game of Thrones it would have actually been v satisfying because they were the unassuming victors in the end. They won it fair and square by being patient. It would have been pretty impressive. If Cersei wins then there was no point in watching the show. Dany winning is better but a bit predictable.
Shady Tyrell you damn right.!! I wish that Oelena had killed Cersei when she had the chance.
that's the thing - their political game is too strong. they outmanoeuvre everyone. it gets in the way of the series' writing. so they took the shortcut out and eliminate tyrells cause "war is not their forte" bullshit, i say.
olenna and other tyrell members must have known that they grow the food for the entire kingdom and have a lot of money - to be unguarded and having an untrained army are just silly
So that is why I predict the Night King wins. Which would be interesting.
A part of me wants Jon Snow to win the throne more than anyone, and that part of me is the strongest. Yes, as a leader, his choices are... while somehow very effective, it is very questionable.
That said... its a Targaeryan winning the throne... again... shit...
How is anything fair and square when it comes to the Tyrells?
She said to Dany, “I’ve met many men. I outlived them. You know why? I ignored them all.”
Well, Dany...
honestly if she igonred Tyrion, Jon and Varys, she would likely still be alive
If she didn't follow Jon's advice on going to the North, or if she attacked King's Landing first before losing her army like she wanted....but no..she listened to Tyrion🙄🙄🙄🙄
I love the Tyrells SO much, especially Lady Olenna. While there are many amazing, strong women in GoT, the Tyrells are definitely the embodiment of "traditional" female strength through cunning, intelligence, and manipulation. A lot of women these days seem to balk at this in favor of brute force, but I wonder - why should we have to prove ourselves by being strong in the same way men are? Some of us are, and that's great... but most of us aren't, and that's great too. Suggesting that women are ALL as physically strong as men is not only blatantly false, it's also reinforcing a very patriarchal sense of worth. The Tyrell women were just so damn cool and they never once had to pick up a sword to get what they want. RIP :(
Wendigo Heart - 👏 well said, and whilst I adore characters like Arya and Brienne, I still love seeing women that embody the traditional 'feminine' strength; it's so much more easier to accomplish, respect and look up to whilst also elevating/empowering the matriarchal role of women.
YES! YES! YES!
I absolutely agree. Tyrells are my favorite house in the GOT. Also making women "strong" by making them the same as men just diminishes femininity and natural strengths that women posses. It's like saying, "You are not good enough as long as you are not the same as a man". But no, women are just as good and I love how smart and canning Tyrells were. They were good players in the Game of Thrones. And they weren't cruel which is why I love them.
but it's also good to have both types in both gender because cunning, manipulation, poison... have for too long in history be considered as cowardice and in that way, as being peculiar to women. But a lot of men are good at it and have this kind of temper, as much as som women have other qualities usually and wrongly associated with male ones
If this were quora, I would send a "thanks" to you.
"Tell Cersei. I want her to know it was me." RIP The Queen of Thorns.
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To be honest, out of all the major houses in game of thrones, house tyrell is and will always be my favorite one. Not the starks, even though they touched and broke my heart. Not the lannisters that impresses me with their wits and strength. Not the targaryens, that always surprises me and excites me. Tyrells have every bit of qualities that the other houses have. They played the game of thrones, and they played it well. They won, even when the game was over for them. Rip to my favorite house.
Cheers.
The Tyrells were like the modern day progressives of Game of Thrones. Accepting and even blatantly nonchalant about Loras' homosexuality(and homosexuality in general) and they were primarily a matriarch. The Tyrell women were the leaders when so often it is the men who are the dominant force. They were very adept at acclimatizing to change and they seemed to be fine with it cause they're the type to move along with their environment, while still gracefully maintaining their true selves. They held a level of familial bond and genuine compassion(even if they did fake it sometimes) that none of the other houses really possessed(other than House Stark). Easily my favorite house. They held a perfect balance of cunning and morality. It's sad to see them go.
And side note, Cersei did NOT outsmart Margarey. She outsmarted the high-sparrow. Margarey was just unfortunate enough to get caught in the crossfire. Even with the faintest hint, Maragery knew something was amiss, but the High Sparrow's arrogance got in the way. That's one of my biggest annoyances with Cersei. She's not as smart as she thinks she is, and I wish people would stop giving her more credit than is due. It doesn't take a genius to blow up a church. Anyone could have done that. If Margarey had been given enough time, and if the High Sparrow hadn't dismissed her warning, she might have actually been able to save them all.
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Also, even then, I think that who outsmarted the High Sparrow was Qyburn, actually. I highly doubt she could plan something like that on her own. Cersei's an interesting antagonist, but quite a bit overrated.
Progressives? No, not at all.
Matriarchy though it may be, the society of Highgarden is knightly and based upon chivalry. People in the seventeenth and eighteenth century courts of Europe didn't care very much about homosexuality.
The most liberal society regarding homosexuality in GoT is Dorne.
François-Marie Fabray Progressive as far as GOT is concerned. Right behind the martells.
keneticam Martells were the real progressives.
The entire show has been about women in power and alternative lifestyles. Besides Jon Snow what family isn't run by women, and even he is saved by his sister.
Goodbye my favourite house
Tyrells are so much better than Lannisters. They might be power hungry and manipulative and do good for their own reputation but they do good nevertheless and are still kind at heart and not bloodthirsty like the Lannisters.
Judgemental Budgie Tyrells are genuinely good natured and fair but in the end Lannister’s are the more appealing house because of how controversial their members are (Incestous, blowing up the sept, torturing and killing the Martells and the atonement lady, Joffrey killing Ned and threatening Sansa etc), and that’s what attracted viewers. The Tyrell’s were my favorite house too. Margaery was smart enough to know that trouble ensued in the Sept, she was simply caught in the crossfire.
I agree the Tyrells are cunning but they are loyal and not killing for no reason
There are loads of Tyrells left which just haven't been shown yet. Definitely not extinct.
cadmaniak The main branch is extinct. The other Tyrells aren't that relevant, and if they're kept alive they'll probably be hostages somewhere idk. The Reach will probably pass to House Tarly.
Arnaud Payne Daenerys is gonna burn Traitor Tarly and his son
cadmaniak The show has scrapped them to give Cersei some semblance of a fighting chance. It was one of the dumber gaps in logic amongst the sea of stupidity in s7. Now, the reach will most likely go to the Tarlys; my theory is that Randyll will die but Dany will spare Dickon if he bends the knee and hand him the Reach, following the example of Aegon the Conqueror. Burning both of them would just be plain stupid, since the reach will then be left hanging up in the air, the most fertile and rich region just forgotten like the Riverlands. Better to leave it in the hands of someone else to milk it of whatever resources it has left.
The main branch is gone. There are other Tyrells but there's not any leaders among them, so Highgarden and The Reach are not theirs anymore. Margaery, Loras, and Olenna have all mentioned they have other family all over Westeros. The House is still alive, but it's no longer a powerful house.
I disagree with the comments. Yes most of the main family line is dead but Margaery and Loras and two other grown and competent brothers who are v much alive. The house is scattered and they have many enemies now but the people still love the Tyrells and Tarly's may die from Davy's wrath and the Tyrells could rise up again.
I wish they would've included Willas and Garland Tyrell. For those who haven't read the books they are the two elder brothers of Loras and Margery and not at all like Mace and Loras in the sense of being idiots obsessed chivalry and jousting. Garland is a good natured, recently married (in a happy relationship, rare in Medieval times) who excels at strategy rather than single combat like Loras, whom we meet for the first time in a Sansa pov chapter where he is training against not one, but four men at arms to simulate real battle. He is kind to Sansa during her time at King's Landing as one of the few people who sympathize with her. Willas on the other hand very much takes after his Grandmother as the eldest son and heir of House Tyrell, crippled at a young age during a joust with Oberyn Martell, Willas has taken to reading and studying as pastimes and is recognized as intelligent by almost all, Olenna stating that he is the exception to the rule of "Tyrell men hitting each other with sticks". He is able to correctly guess at other's plans and prepares to defend the reach with most of his family away. He is the one in the books that is offered up as a grooms for Sansa instead of Loras, giving her the chance to be the Lady of Highgarden.
Garlan and Willas were the only Tyrells I liked. The Tyrells may not be good militarily (ironic considering they have the largest army) but Garlan is the only competent general in their family. He has the knightly courage needed commit an aggressive attack but also the strategic wisdom (the likes of Ned Stark, Tywin Lannister, and Stannis Baratheon) to stand his ground and hold the line against attackers.
There's also the whole bit where Willas was most likely having a relationship with Oberyn after Oberyn broke his leg.
Did you not like Olenna, Margaery, Mace, or Loras?
IIRC Garlan also stood up for Tyrion when he was insulted by Joffrey during the wedding. Gallant indeed.
Tyrells and Starks are 👌🏻💗💚
that would've been an awesome alliance
Carlos Hernandez both family-centered houses. the starks have honor, the tyrells have wits, both to forward their families' interests and futures.
still wish that Sansa and Loras would have married
+Golden Rose but Loras is gay sooooo
yeah. But lets face it. Loras would have atleast needed to have one child sadly contuine his name. I mean Loras knew and he didn't mind. Heck he even was okay with Margaery sleeping with Renly to get pregnant. And honestly Sansa would have been a good match as friend. She is sweet, accepting, a bit naive but really pleasant to be around, plus they shared similiair intrests. Would Loras have been faitfull to her? no way, but he would have threaten her extremely well, and in Game of Thrones that is pretty much all you can ask for in a mariage. Plus i have no doubt in my mind that after they got children Sansa could have taken a lover (hopefully Margaery)
I think the most f'd up thing about The Tyrells is that, as far as Cersei knows, they never did anything to her. They actually saved her life.
Man, I LOVED the Tyrells! For me, they were the most relatable. I really liked their take on how to play the game. It was impactful yet subtle. Margaery (Natalie Dormer) was gorgeous, and Olenna (Diana Rigg) was boss. RIP House Tyrell🏵
I'm really hoping for a better ending for their family in the books.🙏🏼🤞🏼
“He’s a sword swallower through and through”
Yo, Ollena is such a savage 😂
You know, looking back at season 1 when Loras beated the mountain by using a female horse. Its kind of symbolic of house tyrell. Using female attraction to defeat an stronger opponent.
The Tyrells in a nutshell:
"Silent but deadly"
RIP like all of the tyrells
Not in the books ;(
Willas is still around. Since he was crippled in his youth (in a tournament against Oberyn Martell), he never leaves the walls of Highgarden and should be quite safe. Despite his injury, he is still said to have great intelligence, wisdom, kindness, and charisma. Olenna was almost eager for Mace to die so her brilliant grandson could take over.
Clearly, no one is talking about the books. The show and books are totally different entities and we're probably not getting another book until 2020. So, in the show world, RIP Tyrells.
No one gives a fuck about the books.
Storm Bey I'm happy to tell you that Martin said two books are coming between this year and the next :D
Storm Bey Except, you know, real fans who care about both. That aside there are more Tyrells in the show, and with House Tarly gone before even becoming lords the Reach will likely go back to the Tyrells, albeit off screen
Love how Tyrell women are cunning and ruthless Slytherins pretending to be cute and kind Hufflepuffs! Possibly one of my favourite houses. So sad to see that two of the best female characters in the show die, despite their clever plans, and that a Tyrell boy sufferd and died for nothing but being who he was...
Daniel Marques being gay was a capital offense in Europe (what Westeros is based on) until the 19th century. Loras shouldn't have been a surprise to you.
Stephen M. Stouter I know. I didn't said it was a surprise for me or anyone else. It was in fact sad, not surprising.
Stephen, depends where in Europe and by who. A rich nobel like Loras could easily get away with it. he should have because he was one of the most nobel, nicest purest characters in the show.
Also, in the books, homosexuality is never a thing to worry about for the sparrows. They are, in fact, more focused on punishing the highborns that abuse their position.
Loras is still alive in the books, although he will probably die because he got really hurt in a battle to reclaim dragonstone
androkguz i kinda wished they had kept it like that. It was pretty awesome to see the high sparrow call out the shitty entitled nobles on their abuse and opression of the smallfolk. But instead they just acted like a puritan morality police.
I miss the Tyrell's.
Especially Loras, Margaery and Olenna
Which other tyrells are there? Mace? Lol
And mah boi Mace?
"So give me a kiss by the long canal..."
@@stanleymetzger987 Willas and Garlan... There are more Tyrell, Tyrell for everyone XD
I don't know how but your GOT videos have become my favourite thing on RUclips. You deserve millions of subs.
Loras is so lucky have a grandma and sister like them
"Planting a seed means, it will take a while, but it will eventually bare fruit" *cut to joffrey choking to death* 😂😂❤️
Hope the Tyrells make it to the end of the books. What this world needs is more tough, smart, pragmatic people.
The Tyrells are fascinating. They manage to be as selfish, cunning and calculating as many others in the story, but they remain likable and trustworthy. They support each other and care about their people. Super cool video thanks.
Gezz,the perfect match at 2:48.
The narrator saying"Plating a sead means it will take a while,but eventually it will give fruit", the calming and chilling music and Joffrey dying.What can be better than that?
one of my favorite scene of Olenna remains the dinner after Tyrion's wedding, when Tywin is glaring at Tyrion then arguing with him (because he's drinking to death), and Olenna is amusedly watching the show
“Yes, yes all Lannisters are lions, and when a Tyrell farts it smells like a rose“
Later “You are a dragon, be a dragon“
They kinda forgot that Olenna was smart and not just cool.
I can't believe this house was destroyed within 4 episodes.
Yes they were my second favorite family after the Starks.
But now we know that when they killed our favorite characters, the episodes were still good. That’s the reason why this show was such a bomb at the start. It’s the rage it gave us. I miss it so much.
@@tukhoatran4163 Final 2 seasons were bad though...I was so disappointed with the show creators :(
Ali C totally agree, that’s why I said “at the start” :))
Not their forte
You missed one piece of symbolism: the name itself. Tyrell. Tyrant-Elle. Tyrant-Female.
Also Martell, Mars the god of war, elle. A family that has many strong females, and is ruled outright by warrior females by the end.
@Andrew Austin Eh, actually they are. They are just much better at public relations than most other houses.
"Take advantage of being underestimated"..thts a key line..Gr8 video
Diana Rigg, you were one of the greatest actresses ever. RIP ❤🌹
I would not liken the Tyrell family to the Tudor family because of the rose, but I would rather argue that they were much more heavily inspired by the Woodville family.
WrongKindOfPot couldn't agree more! Margarey is so much like Queen Elizabeth Woodville! And Olenna is just like her mother the Duchess!
I agree. The Woodvilles switched sides, were mainly overseen by the women (Jacquetta and Elizabeth), married Elizabeth's many siblings off to noble gentry as a way of gaining power, and were forced into taking sanctuary within the church walls. And ultimately, the Woodvilles sided against the Yorkist King Richard III and made an alliance with Margaret Beaufort to get Henry Tudor on the throne, much in the way that the Tyrells ultimately try to put Daenarys on the throne.
I know this is an older post but the actor who plays Margaery also plays Anne Boleyn in The Tudors in season 1 and season 2.
baratheon please....and greyjoy.......and martell
glorilol 95 all coming soon :-)
ScreenPrism Your videos are so well made! Congrats
glorilol 95 house velaryon and house celtigar
Please do Martell first. We can kinda guess already about the Baratheons/Greyjoys.
"Errrggghh....you can smell the shit from five miles away" long live Olenna the queen of shade.
Love these vids!
House Tyrell is one of my favorite houses and I absolutely loved this video
Excellent video! Olenna and Margaery = two of my favorite characters. Quite cunning and complex, and of course Olenna's epic shade was brilliant.
The Tyrells in the books have such a strong position and influence and it's so disheartening to see them "eradicated" in the show. The Lannisters are overrated 😏
Did they die in the books? I don’t want to even read the books.
Did they die in the books? I don’t want to even read the books.
Did they die in the books? I don’t want to even read the books.
@@yesyes9698 No they're all alive and gaining more influence. Margery is Queen being married to Tommen, Mace becomes Hand of the King and several members of the King's Council are Lord's from the Reach(Tyrell bannermen). Garlan, the second son, becomes Lord of Brightwater Keep, the former castle/seat of House Florent, creating a cadet branch of House Tyrell starting a new line of House Tyrell of Brightwater Keep. Loras though was badly injured from the seige of Dragonstone and not confirmed if he survived that or not. I think that's all for the Tyrells atm 🤔
I love this house specifically because of its unique nod to how smart women are. RIP Lady Olenna Tyrell, and RIP to some of the best quotes in the series.
for the quotes we still have tyrion, bronn and the hound
"...With nothing like the Lannister's or Baratheon's internal rivalries"
*Tyrion slapping Joffrey*
"Something that's almost revolutionary in-"
*Tyrion slapping Joffrey again*
I wish they included the entire Tyrell Family (un)like they did in the show.
Not just Olenna, Loras, Mace and Margaery, but Loras and Margaery’s other brothers as well.
I absolutely loved the Tyrells, especially Ollena and Margeary. And they almost won. They just underestimated how insane Cersei is.
Oh gosh, I'm grieving again on the loss of my fav house. This video was well-made and a great analysis of House Tyrell. Growing Strong 💚🌹
I like the Tyrells but its a shame they didn't stick a bit more to the books! Like Loras is a badass Knight in the book one of the best in the seven kingdoms and his brother Garlan is even better and is probably one of the most genuinely nice people in the books!
Show Loras did pretty much all book Loras did except join the kings guard (which haven't really done anything in the show) and the battle of dragonstone (where he got injured) Plus book Loras for the most part is a arrogant hothead while show Loras (and Margaery) both gained Garlan's kindness.
I always rooted for the Tyrells. Olenna and Margaery were two of the smartest and most adaptable players. Also Loras was a badass.
I love the Tyrells, and the queen of thorns was a heck of a character. Strong female presents without being preachy. She just said whatever the heck she wanted and she owned everything
Quick correction. The Tyrells fought for the targaryens during robert's rebellion not because it was more likely that they would win but because it was Aegon who had named the Tyrells as Lords Paramount of the reach and Wardens of the south passing over many other houses who had closer relations to the Gardners. The tyrells fighting for the targaryens was out of no loyalty not opportunism.
OLENNA LITERALLY GOT THE LAST LAUGH. SHE WAS OLD DEATH WAS INEVITABLE IF ANOTHER WAR HADNT DONE IT. SHE TOOK JAMIES MERCY AND GAVE CERSEI GRIEF. CERSEI HATED OLENNA DID HER IN
Love the video. Except, Loras wasn’t just a dumb pretty guy. He was skilled and showed an air of cunning to him.
They might be manipulate but they did try to help Sansa
How exactly did they try to help Sansa? By putting poison crystals in her hair, so that she could be accused to having murdered Joffrey?
Eleonora De Pasquale They let Margaery wed Joffrey because she was a more prosperous candidate for Queen Regent rather than Sansa, and was a better manipulator and could control Joffrey, unlike the young Sansa at the time. It was an ease to Sansa to not have to deal with him.
@@Nimrodel84 Also, in the books they offered her to marry Willas Tyrell and be Lady of Highgarden. So they'd have gotten her out of the city and out of Cersei's grip.
@@coppagh8040 and?
@@EK-eu3ld because they wanted the North
My favorite house by far. The Tyrells will be missed
I love these symbolism videos!
R.I.P., Olenna, Mace, Marg, and Loras.
You will forever be Growing Strong.
Clicked as soon as I saw the notification. These videos are the best
I love your videos and house tyrell! Thanks for yet another in dept look at a truly unique house.I love how fearless Olenna was.
Amazing analysis, loved every bit of it! The Tyrells are one of my favorite houses, and fortunately they’re still alive on the book (let alone Loras as before the last book ended, he was dying). I’m so sorry that you guys miss them because I’m still going to see some of the roses’ actions!
Yet another hyped-up element that just went away in a breeze in Season 8.
the music on this video is great i especially love that it's edited with such... contrasting scenes to the harmonious music. will you guys consider putting a music credit?
xtiechannel absolutely it's at the very end! We include credits for all music and images used on the final slide.
These analysis videos are great, I was hooked from the beggining with House Stark and I'm sooo looking forward to the next one! Keep up the good work!
The breakdown of the green and gold and how it changed over seasons is awesome. ScreenPrism, BRAVO!
THANK YOU! I absolutely love the Tyrells.
Tyrells were proper, noble, wise and yet still the most savage In the game of thrones. Love this house
Olenna is an amazing character, from the moment she is introduced to the story. In my opinion, she is the only "game player" as cunning and patient as Varys.
Criminally underrated channel.
house tyrell is one of my favourite houses
This is so good! Love the Tyrrells, definitely my favourite house
With the Tyrells being the closest house out of all of them to be a Matriarchy, I'm surprised and also relieved that they weren't the primary suspects in Joffrey's murder. After all, didn't we consistently hear throughout the show about how poison was a women's weapon? Such an awesome and cunning house!
You know they Tyrell’s and Greyjoy’s are also somewhat of a foils if you think about it.
The Tyrell’s love beauty and are quite feminine (even the males), they are also extremely smart and stronger then most people would think.
The Greyjoy’s hate vanity and feminine clothing. Unlike the Tyrell’s they overrate how strong they are, and aren’t a real treat until Euron Greyjoy
They Tyrell’s are despite their ambition extremely close (closer then all the other families) while half the greyjoy’s hate each other. The only one that have some loyalty to each other are Yara and Theon, but even that pales compared to Margaery and Loras.
They both fought in the great war and basically had the opposing sides. The Tyrell’s fought for Renly (and for them self in a way) but the Greyjoy’s wanted to take the throne their self. Not to mention they Greyjoy’s took the house of the Starks, the Tyrell’s saved them the Lannisters house.
However both of the houses are pretty progressive. They are together with the Dorne pretty much the only houses that treat woman as equal to man. And are accepting of homosexuals.
Yeah the Iron Islands, Highgarden, Dorne seem most accepting (or at least tolerating) of male homosexuality, though in various contexts. The others in the South seem more at least disapproving, and I can imagine King's Landing to have both the most occurrence yet most judgement about it (being the location of the Sept). Highgarden and Iron Islands wouldn't be very publicly accepting either, only Dorne. The North is probably disapproving, but perhaps like Iron Islands, life is tough enough without laying mob judgement. As well, they have their Old Gods and Drowned God influence (or rather, lack of Sept influence; Iron Islands may have closest to 'penetrator/penetrated' relationship and shame). Only Dorne in Westeros is where male homosexuality wouldn't be a public embarrassment, but it still might be somewhat queer. The Wildlings are probably fine with it as long as you fight for what you want or you submit if a leader has an agenda of quick procreation. The best is Dorne, the worst is anywhere with highest influence of the Faith.
i think high garden is pretty accepting, even publicy. I mean Loras never seem to feel any shame in being gay, and they even supported the only gay king. Heck the army of High Garden even almost attacked the faith for having Margaery and Loras because he is gay. even Olenna doesn't care about it, and uses it to moke Tywin and the high sparrow, even Mace doesn't care. There is no question that Dorne is the most uncaring about those things but i do believe that in High Garden it is socially acceptable.
Mormonts (Bear Island) also raise and treat women and men the same way
i like that part of the culture. make them different an relatable - like in the US, different states have different tolerant levels towards homosexuality etc. it gives depth to their individual cultures
in a way they're different because they grow up in an isolated culture in an island, they sort of agree to that because there's few of them. women have to fight to be efficient when they need to defend themselves. if not, half of the population is defenceless and helpless.
This opened my eyes so much I love the tyrells so much
Olenna Tyrell 2020.
Shit *YES* !!!
I've stopped counting how many times I have watched this. So well done! Thank you!
These are some of the best videos on Game of Thrones on this platform
If this channel was nothing but videos analysing Game of Thrones symbolism and characters from here on out i would still be very very content. Keep up the great work and hopefully this channel grows strong ;)
That's why I synphatised with Tyrell: matriarchy and strong relationship with each other and acceptance of each other, for example Loras
@Emily Barclay Well, deciding who rules based on gender is a stupid model period, regardless of whether you pick men or women as the master gender. Your reproductive organs tell us nothing about your competence as a leader.
@Emily Barclay I don't, at least as an ideal. People are prone to unjust biases but that doesn't mean that we should embrace those biases. Disempowering half of the population is not only immoral but also ineffective since there's plenty of smart people with worthwhile things to say from both genders. That's why I think suggesting that matriarchy may be an effective model is wrong, since patriarchy is also an ineffective model.
Tyrells only knew how to play the game . They were never a House to be feared of. Unlike starks, Lannister
Flowers wither and perish when winter comes. They were never going to win the Game of Thrones.
haha great analogy!
It wasn't winter that came for them, it was them being crushed by the lion's paw.
I wanna say thank you for the video and new and last information about them. I really love Tyrell, they always be my favorite family
growing strong
I already loved the Tyrells but as you show them, it's even better ! Congrats !
The Tyrells are one of my favorite houses alongside the Starks. They were very ambitious, intelligent, cunning, and manipulative(At least the Tyrell women were)like the Lannisters but they genuinely loved each other in the family and were sometimes empathetic to certain people as well. For instance, even though they were using Sansa, I think almost all of the Tyrells felt some genuine sympathy for her because they knew that if the girl had married Loras than she would’ve been more safer and happier in Highgarden than in King’s Landing and she would be with a kind, chivalrous man who would keep her safe. Gay or not, Loras would’ve treated Sansa very well and would maybe grow to have concern, affection, and care for her as either a friend or as a little sister along with Margaery, whom I think would also like Sansa in a way too. And I think Olenna would also think of her as one of her grandchildren as well if she had entered into the Tyrell family.
I also believe that the Tyrell women had some sort of affection towards the men they married. For Olenna, she probably grew to love and care for Luthor very much despite manipulating him to make decisions because she did say to Margaery that she had a hard time accepting his passing when he died. And for Margaery, I think she was somewhat fond of Renly and liked him well enough in the end. I also think she genuinely cared for Tommen as well and liked him the most out of the 3 “Baratheon“ kings she married because he was a sweet, compassionate boy. Plus, she never put Tommen in danger in any of her schemes and the results of them always benefited Tommen and made him gain something and not just herself. I believe Margaery truly liked Tommen well enough in the end.
It's funny how I got an ad for this video and it was Emilia Clarke dressed as Jon Snow at Times Square to promote GOT
I love all your GoT analisations..really provide me even more joy while i'm reading the books
I watched every damn season of game of thrones..or that's what i thought until i found you channel. You are doing an amazing job stripping every inch of each house, getting to the core of it. Untill now i thought of every character in Got as an individual person. Now i saw them as a part of their house,emboding every characteristic you've mentioned- in words and in doings. I know i am a bit late,but i wanted o say thanks for your hard work. ^^
Honestly the best overall house in GOT
"The Reach's natural plenitude provides lots of food to the seven kingdoms"
*Shows Arya crashing into baskets of fruit*
These analyses are absolute internet gems, fantastic work. +1
I'm a big fan of your analysis for GoT. It's an interesting perspective of the fictional world.