Creole Lady Marmalade Uses DNA Test to Identify Nicaraguan Ancestry
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- In this professional genealogist reacts, I watch "Mixed Race Louisiana Creole DNA Results & Discovering Latin American Heritage & Unknown Relative" by @CreoleLadyMarmalade
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Thanks sooo much for reacting!! I love your channel and I was hoping you’d react to one of my DNA vids one day. I would LOVE for you to react to my 4 generation video. It’s my daughter, my mom, my grandma & I. It’s been nearly a year since I posted the one you just reacted to so this newer one goes A LOT more in depth. It’s more about the results than the backstory. This one that you reacted to was sort of a channel introductory video mixed with family mystery back story mixed with results lol so I spent a lot more time talking about myself and my family mystery/backstory but the newer one dives straight into results. It’s kinda long because I’m breaking down 4 people but do please check it out & give us your take! I’ve also been wanting to collab with @nytn and we chatted briefly about it in her comments section & both thought it’d be a fabulous idea so hopefully that’ll be in the works soon! It’s a collab that quite a few people have been requesting on both of our channels. Thanks again & keep up the AMAZING work!! ⚜️⚜️
I told him about your video with your family, which I really enjoyed watching a few weeks ago!
@@johnsonzz-jw3ozThank-you! 😁
Thank you for doing this video and to the Geneavlogger for this reaction. It's so refreshing to watch someone that really goes deep into her ancestry after watching so many videos of people only looking at the percentages.
I'm looking forward to your video with the 4 generations test and hopefully Jarrett reacts to it.
@@alexandracruz5243 Thanks so much for watching & yes I’m def looking forward to his reaction!
Hi, I’m so excited to see this! I watched this when you originally posted it and can't believe it’s being discussed here. This is great!
I’m sure you don't remember me commenting on it if I was using this account. I’m Creole as well, and my family, like yours, is multi-generationally multiracial. I never really knew where I fit because I am not "bi-racial" and people do not seem to compute when I say I am multi-racial, or when my sons describe themselves as such(especially here in the Pacific Northwest) . I was raised in LA in a very insulated Creole community, which you may be you’re aware of that pocket of creoles, there aren't many.
I know in the n the 40s and 50s, there was a pipeline from New Orleans to Los Angeles, somehow leading to success for that population particularly, because they ended up quite affluent, and I understand the affluent Creoles of New Orleans, stayed in New Orleans. I don't really understand that. Our neighborhoods were full of creoles with various professional degrees and the ability to have their own practice, or business, many in film/TV. I grew up in the 70s-90s, when we didn’t have the internet yet, so people were very isolated from other groups. We only knew those around us. For us, Our church, market, neighborhood, and schools mostly everyone was around Creole. Most families knew each other since that migration time, and would often refer to Family names like being part of the Blount Family or the Dupree Sisters.
I didn’t realize Creole wasn’t widely known until I was nearly 20, and I was shocked to find out I was considered Black. Which I quickly learned was almost blasphemous to admit. DNA testing wasn’t easily available before I lost my entire family, and I came from a small (known)family. Now, all my relatives, including my dad, brother, and grandparents, have passed. It’s just me and one other female relative.
How can I get a good DNA mapping of my Black heritage using Y-mtDNA only? Sorry for writing so much; I have autism and get very excited about our unique genetics and ethnic makeup. What are good places to use for more accurate results? I currently have results from two different companies but need more information to advance my research. Any resources on where to get testing, regardless of price, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Louisiana was Spanish from 1762 to 1801, which is when the Cajuns arrived from Canada (1764-1785) and when the Spanish government in Louisiana under Bernardo Galvez brought 2000 Spanish Canary Islanders (known as Islenos) to St. Bernard Parish, south of New Orleans. They were allowed to come into Louisiana in order to increase the Catholic population and to counter the English/American Protestant populations increasing around them. The Spanish were always part of the Creole White population and of course contributed to the Colored Creoles too so not rare that Spanish shows up in DNA results for people with history in Louisiana.
Honduras and Nicaragua had major business ties with Louisiana as their bananas came into the U.S. exclusively through New Orleans in the 1900s. There are still many Nicaraguan and especially Honduran populations/origins in Louisiana and at one point Honduras were the most numerous Hispanic group in Louisiana, not sure they still are as many Mexicans and others arrived after Katrina.
This is incorrect. It was New France first and Acadians/Cajuns have always been in the territory. They literally only migrated to the southern end of the territory. As well as several states in the 13 colonies because the exile was NOT exclusive to Louisiana.
@ professional genealogist reacts- She just released a new video doing 4 generations of her family. One month ago, it was cool to see.
I am part of this group of Creole people. This is super fascinating! Danielle is my cousin! ❤
I found my Nigerian Yoruba cousin on ancestry DNA. I found her after I typed in Nigeria on the region match and found 3 Nigerian cousins. She looked just like my family. We are Afro Cuban and knew we were Yoruba having that religion and language still in our family. We went to Nigeria and met the family. I am Yoruba on my maternal line. It's definitely possible to reconnect.❤
She is stunning!💯
You should check out another video she had just done where she tests her mother, daughter and grand-mother with their results. It was very interesting !
Her family story was interesting and involved, I enjoyed it. It was the case that apart from Florida and Alabama, Spain sent settlers to Louisiana in the mid 1700s. Many of those were from the Canary Islands, but others from the Peninsula. Their descendants went on to populate the state, and still exist today. It is a little known part of American history, even though they participated in the Revolution in a significant way. Census records reflect that along with Military service pension documents found on genealogy sites. I match with those current day Isleños from Louisiana, by way of the Canary Islands, even though my maternal family route went from Gran Canaria to Cuba, then to Florida in one century.
I love when two of my favorite RUclips channels crosses
Could you believe it, someone who has a reasonable take on their DNA results
Wdym if you don't mind me asking?
OMG, she needs to change her fire alarm battery. So triggering.
If you’re interested in another Creole descendant’s DNA test with an interesting story who’s done a lot of family tree research, you should look at the channel NYTN.
I've already reacted to a few of Danielle's videos! I also have some others of hers that are on the list for possible future reactions.
Nice. I will have to look for those.
@@brawndothethirstmutilator9848 He already mentions NYTN starting around 43:40.
❤ Danielle. Her channel is so good!
Yes I'd love to see you react to her other one. It was so cool that she was able to find her spanish ancestry through this and even family members.
I would like to see more reactions to her DNA videos. Thanks for sharing.
Yasss I love NYTN channel!!❤
I enjoyed this video. You should also check out her video with results from her daughter, mother and grandmother.
You are absolutely right about the 1st cousin , 1st cousin 1R or first half cousin. I got a match on MH. MH said she is a 1st half cousin. I knew immediately who she was just from the surnames of her father and mother. She is my 1C1R. We were able to connect and got together for a wonderful visit. She knew very little of my 1st cousin, her dad, or his side of her family. She looked so very much like her Grandmother, my aunt, and her great grandmother, my grandmother.
My dad’s family is creole my mom side is Cajun and Italian. my dad side we had the very same results she has and you can look at me and would never guess I was.
I am a average European Dutch male. I have a strong narrative aboit my ancestry and expected my heritage to be centered on two relatively small areas. Digging into my genealogy, that area has expanded to all of the Netherlands, much of Belgium, the northwest of Germany, part of France, Scandinavia, Greece/Byzantium, the Bactrian kingdom, Persia, perhaps China. Who knew? I am interested in getting a DNA test to see if the paper trail works out in real-life DNA.
Waiting for the MyHeritage update here. It's already summer, and I cannot wait to see the update. I'm tired of seeing misreads of Andean, Finnish, Siberian, etc, that doesn't make sense at all.
Oh wow My Heritage is doing an update this Summer? Thank you, I spoke to a rep earlier this month and I wasn't told about the update.
In the old days in parts of the south, latino persons were accepted and lived in mixed race black communities. Additionally, New Orleans was a huge international port throughout history.
React to more of her videos!
Her Spanish Portuguese ancestry could also be French ancestry from Southern France along the Pyrenees mountains.
I have French Canadian ancestry and I also get Spanish/ Portuguese ancestry. My sister and I have documented ancestors from Southern France which is a region that has a lot of cultural and historical overlap with Spain on the other side of the mountains.
Oh wow, thats why my dad and aunt have a lil Ashkenazi, it could be from Spain. My mom's side to😮 Both my dad and aunt have the 1% Nigeria to. This was a good video thank you
Interesting as always. Thanks
My Heritage has been the most prolific in sending me relatives, but usually 3rd, 4th, 5th cousins in Norway and Ireland, and a few relatives in the US leaning back to Norway and Ireland. I also did CRI Genetics, which gave me a lot more ad-mixes I never heard of. I have no relatives willing to take tests. So will do Ancestry and 23 an Me and see what happens. *Spain "owned" Louisiana before the French, and so they were there in the local population when the French took over, and then the US bought the "Louisiana Purchase" which took all those Europeans kept in.
It's nice to listen to someone who is taking the time to understand her results (unlike a certain d-list actress claiming to be 43% Nigerian).
Love her but get embarrassed for her when that stat gets bandied about. That cannot be right unless her father has 15-20% African ancestry. Has GeneVlogger done a vid on this saga? The company that analyzed her DNA certainly sold her a false bill of goods.
Creole people of america are quite similar to "coloured" people of South Africa because they are mixed dor generations dating to the 1600s and have developed their own distinct culture. There are a lot of DNA test videos from coloured people of South Africa
The French and Spanish colonized Louisiana.
When the Conquistadors came to North, Middle and South America they didn’t bring women with them. Hence, there was a lot of Iberian peninsula ancestry introduced into the indigenous populations. Not so with Europeans. They brought women with them. That makes for a huge difference in the genealogical mix of the modern populations.
Initially the western Europeans did not bring women with them also. In the Caribbean, in the beginning they mated with Natives and Black and Mulato.
I'm African American with roots from FL and SC (Gullah Geechee Corridor), and I have many (10 or more) with Yucatan Indigenous. I wonder if they read it as central American because deep south/South Eastern Natives genetic markers are more simar to central American and Mexican Indigenous peoples as opposed to other more northern North American Indigenous communities who's genetic ancestry has been collected.
You need to do the genealogy I had trace on both parents. They feel out the family tree Cherokee, Choctaw, and Lumbee tribe. Living Dna gave me the tribes and family members in Europe
I’ve wondered the same thing. I think that there just isn’t a large enough sample group with the East Coast/Southeastern Indigenous populations, so those groups go way undercounted.
Your initial definition of Creole is not correct. Creoles in Louisiana are not derived from Cajuns. They were 2 separate populations who spoke 2 distinct variations of French. Creoles spoke Louisiana Creole while Cajuns spoke Louisiana French. The grammar and syntax of the 2 are different. Though there is a lot of mixing in modern times, but historically, the Creoles and the Cajuns did not mix and often did not get along.
Please, do review that other video of hers w/multiple generations tested - & any other videos of hers that you find interesting - if you will.
No need to read beyond this point unless you want to know some of what I'm up against.
It looks like I'm also a mixed-mixed of various mixes; but, my dad was adopted & both parents refused to be DNA tested & have since passed away (my now late aunt & my sister also refused to be tested; but, a maternal 1st cousin & her daughter have tested, but with different companies); so, I've been getting my DNA tested with several companies, because that's the only way apart from mere observation that I can get any idea of my dad's background, & perhaps some more clues for my mom's background (some of which is already known).
BTW: My dad, sister, & I were all raised as White. RUclips channel NYTN made some videos regarding Melungeon (sp?) folk - on traits & squatting ability - & I/my-family-members fit most of the points covered.
So far I've received recent-ancestry results from:
• AncestryDNA
• MyHeritageDNA
• FamilyTreeDNA
• CRI Genetics
Also from CRI Genetics I got their Advanced Ancestry Analysis, plus their mtDNA test results.
Approximately due next month from FamilyTreeDNA are BIG Y-700 & Complete mtDNA test results.
As far as DNA-Matches go, at AncestryDNA I've got over 43,000 matches. Now CRI Genetics - which doesn't offer DNA matching - told me that separating ethnicity results by Parent-1 & Parent-2 isn't possible; but, AncestryDNA - which does do DNA matching - offers a way to do just that (or so they claim); so according to AncestryDNA's Ethnicities By Parent app, I'm able to group my DNA-Matches by Maternal & Paternal (as a known maternal-side relative also tested with AncestryDNA & appeared as a match); however, my closest AncestryDNA-tested Paternal-Side DNA-Match - initially billed as a 1st-2nd Cousin, 568cM across 22 segments @8% shared DNA - blocked me without response when I messaged her - & her family tree was rather short & seemed to be jumbled time-wise (my best lead = instant dead end).
It's been over a year now & the next two closest matches haven't responded other than to tag a link to their respective public tree which was already available to me (both initially billed as 2nd-3rd Cousins: one at 255cM across 12 segments @4% shared DNA; & the other at 188cM across 7 segments @3% shared DNA). All 3 trees have the surname Murphy - the most popular Irish surname, of course - & 2 of these trees share the surname West (both surnames being in that short tree of the closest match that's being tight-lipped).
My 7th closest match - initially billed as a 2nd-3rd Coz at 158cM across 6 segs @2% shared DNA - did respond to my message, but he was clueless about my family. A lady - initially billed as a 5th-8th Coz at 8cM across 1 seg @
Is there a possibility to get the raw data of your mom's cousin? If yes, you could upload her test to Myheritage and use the shared matches tool to label your maternal matches.
@@alexandracruz5243
Interesting. Unfortunately, that doesn't appear to be an option, unless my 1st cousin counts; for, the 1st cousin - & her daughter - that I referred to is my 1st cousin, not my mom's 1st cousin. My mom had 1 known 1st cousin who passed away earlier this year. He didn't DNA test either.
Thanks for the idea. I didn't know that that app could distinguish between parental relations (I though that it merely clustered groups from both parents without identifying any particular cluster as to its relationship to a parent, & I did notice that not all folk could be fit into any cluster - as I already did this with my raw data only); so, are you suggesting that with raw data from 2 individuals the app could determine my maternal clusters from my paternal clusters - & so perhaps I could use my 1st cousin's raw data? Because if so, then I could ask my 1st cousin to re-test so that I might gain access to her raw data, should she be willing to do so for that purpose (as initially we tested on the account of a third party who had volunteered to help, but then things changed & that junior geneaologist stopped & let the account lapse without any expressed intention to renew it; & it wasn't my account or my cousin's account; so, that's part of the reason why I've been retesting - using my own accounts now that I've got access to a computer & large monitor).*
It seems as if I've just been spinning my wheels with a lot of this stuff - much of which seems to go over my head anyway (& my memory issues don't help much either). From listening to GeneVlogger's videos it doesn't seem likely that even a pro genealogist could figure out who my paternal biological grandparents were - that at best such might break through some walls I've hit on my maternal side; so, I'm not sure if I want to spend $$$ on a pro for little or no new knowledge ($$$ that could be used for other purposes - other than to satisfy my long-held curiousity).**
* = I find using a smartphone to navigate through - & read - a DNA-testing company's website a bit too difficult.
** = A doc at a VA hospital told me there isn't any chance to get my deceased dad's medical records. And get this, the VA is asking for vets to DNA test with them for medical research, but the VA won't commit to informing the volunteers of the research results (it's a one way street on this "MVP:" Million Veterans Project).
Sounds like my family in Jamaica. We make up 6% of the population, ie. Brown or Mulatoes peoples.
While I'm definitely a supporter of African Ancestry dna. There was a clash with my final result. By clash there were two sides. Like her my dad side is mixed even on the African side. So I was a bit surprised when it came back completely from the central african region. I expected more based on the results I was getting. YourDnaportal gave me answers to those missing links.
Any thoughts about how Sephardic Jew wrongly reads as Ashkenazi? I’ve done some family tree and I know my New Mexican ansestry is Sephardic as the settlement in Northern New Mexico are families that are documented that way. 23/me has us down as Ashkenazi but I have zero German/Northern European DNA.
This is due to the fact that it has been very difficult for companies to reliably decipher between Ashkenazi, Sephardi, and other Jewish groups. The companies that have tried to decipher them haven't released any white papers showing the statistical analysis of their results and in my experience they have had a lot of issues. So it really just comes down to the fact that due to these difficulties in deciphering between the groups, Sephardi often gets lumped in with Ashkenazi/European Jewish (each site defines it differently) along with common Mediterranean and West Asian readings. So whenever you see Ashkenazi, think of more as general Jewish than specifically Ashkenazi.
I'm not a fan of LivingDNA for my mum's African Ancestry because of their use of Kleurlinge which they know are an ethnically diverse group, it skews the results. My mum as a half Mauritian Creole and half British person is a mixture of African, Chinese, Indian, French and British. The Kleurlinge group inflates her African % and drops her Indian and Chinese percentages. Our African that I've found so far has been mostly Mozambican and Malagasy.
Creole girl? GIRL???? Can't you tell you're looking at a fully grown woman?
What's a half aunt? Wouldn't an aunt or uncle always be half due to 2 parents?
A full aunt/uncle is someone who is a full sibling to one of your parents (they share both parents). A half aunt/uncle is someone who is a half-sibling to one of your parents (they share only one parent). So for Dominique, her Grandmother only shared a father with this new relative but they had different mothers, thus it is a half-relationship.
@@ProfessionalGenealogistReacts Oh OK, thank you.
I will never EVER understand why so many people on RUclips videos don't change their smoke detector batteries. It's just incomprehensible to me. Do you think this is how they're SUPPOSED to act??Noooo, they're not! Climb on up there and CHANGE the thing!
Ha, Ha, so many Afro-Americans simply are a mix of African and European ancestry. I knew what her results were going to be in the first three minutes of her telling her ancestral story. Both of them are trying to make it more complex and exotic than it actually is. The host was very reticent about admitting how much European ancestry he thought she had. LoL. This seems to be a common theme, I wonder why?? Maybe some guilty feelings.
Why did you interpret the .4% Ashkenazi Jewish as Iberian? If this identification is at all accurate (at such a small percentage, most geneticists would disregard it completely), you described Sephardic Jews, not Ashkenazi Jews. She has plenty of Northern European/Germanic, etc., heritage to make that Ashkenazi connection. While Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews are very similar genetically, and in fact did intermarry quite a bit, especially after some Sephardic Jews escaped Iberia and migrated to places like Amsterdam and Germanic lands, since the results specified Ashkenazi, there’s absolutely no reason to change that category.
None of the DNA companies have been able to reliably distinguish between the various Jewish groups, and the few who have tried haven't released white papers showing the reliability of those predictions. Even more, she did 23andMe, which only has the one Jewish category that they define as 'Ashkenazi Jewish', but really should just be defined as 'Jewish'. So, anytime Ashkenazi Jewish comes up (even on the databases which try to distinguish between various Jewish groups), it should be seen more as just a general 'Jewish' reading.
It's crazy to me that she does not identify as a Black American . She always says, she is creole and / or multiple generational mixed. Do you get to say the N word. I would go with Nah. If she said she was Black Creole, yep.
Are Creole people supposed to continue to let our heritage go down the drain and not say what we are? If we never mention Creole, never say we’re Creole, never teach our children what they are, it literally disappears. Would that make you more comfortable? & it’s plainly obvious that the average Louisiana Creole is of African ancestry and we are American so it should go without say that I am an American of African descent but I am specifically Creole. Not all black Americans are Creole. The same way that not all black Americans are Gullah Geechee. Obviously the Gullah Geechee are Americans of African descent so them identifying as Gullah Geechee shouldn’t mean they’re not identifying as black Americans. They are a SPECIFIC type of black Americans. & I never “correct” anyone who refers to me as black American because they may not even know what Creole is & I am mixed with black & I understand that many of y’all are very attached to the one drop rule and that’s fine but if you ask me what I am, no I’m not going to ignore my heritage and use a blanket term when I can instead say the exact background that I come from which is Creole and that very clearly points to me being of African ancestry. You never see white Americans getting upset with Cajuns for identifying as such but there’s always somebody who has a problem with Creoles identifying as Creole. Cajuns are very obviously white Americans but they are a specific kind and saying they’re Cajun doesn’t mean they aren’t Americans of European ancestry just like saying I’m Creole doesn’t mean I’m not an American of African ancestry. Cajuns have a specific culture that they’re very proud of & white Americans aren’t steadily demonizing them for it and always trying to rip that away from them the way so many of y’all do to us Creoles… but thanks for all the concern & interest in MY heritage and racial identity.
@CreoleLadyMarmalade I am not in anyway invested in the " one drop rule" I can admit that for many years, I did adher to that rule when " deciding" who I deemed Black. I spent some time wrestling with and reading articles and listening to podcasts, etc until I accepted that I was wrong to believe that a mixed person had no right to deny that they were Black. Lesson learned. You state that the average Louisiana Creole is of African descent, which to me means that there are those who don't have African descent. When Louisiana was colonized, Creole was used to describe anyone born on Louisiana soil, irrespective of the country of their parents' origin. I grew up with people of Creole decent who ( as you know) would indeed have to identify if they were Black or white. The Louisiana Creole phenotype varies widely, and for me , one would have to ask to know if they were of African decent. It appears that you have confused a question with an attack. If a person looks " mixed" ( their term), how is one to know how they want to identify. Creole culture can be practiced and taught to the new generations . When you say, when you are referred to as Black American you don't correct them means that you don't consider yourself a Black American. You consider yourself Creole, not a Black American. Race, ethnicity, and culture are different identifiers. It's crazy to me that you are upset . Relax and Be well 😊👍🏾
@@sheliamayes8171I appreciate you clarifying that and that’s why I put “correct” in quotes when I say I don’t “correct” anyone who refers to me as a black American. Correct is in quotes because it’s not necessarily a correction. I am an American of African descent so one could describe me as a black American so it wouldn’t be wrong. I just meant that I am mixed so if one is using black as a one drop identifier because they don’t acknowledge people as mixed then yes that would be incorrect for me as someone who is not a one dropper. But if one simply means black American as in me being an American person of African descent then no it wouldn’t be wrong. It depends on the “argument” of what the other person is trying to convey. Let’s not act like everyone is all on one accord about what they mean by black American or African American or black or any of these terms. Also, I’m very Louisiana identified. If I had it my way, I’d identify as “Louisianian” aka what Creole used to mean back when it was prettymuch used like a nationality (before Louisiana became part of America). So it’s not the black part that I run from (I’m always proudly saying I’m of African ancestry), it’s the Anglo American part that I don’t feel aligned with. I love Louisiana’s Franco/Latin roots, I love that our history is not Anglo American history & I’m very much aligned with Louisiana culture as a whole, including African Americans who’s families may have been in Louisiana for a few generations but don’t stem back far enough to be considered Creole. They’re still very culturally “Louisiana” & we all exist within our own cultural bubble. It’s our unique culture and identity that I’m aligned with and blackness is a massive part of Louisiana culture, especially in New Orleans. But yes I do realize that the reality is that I’m an American and I am of African descent so yes one can describe me as a black American but I’m Louisiana identified first before anything so I will always describe myself as Creole. The same way Cajuns are very Louisiana identified and will identify as Cajun before “white/white American” even though it would not be incorrect for someone else to refer to them as white Americans as they are Americans of primarily European descent. & yes you’re right, there are non black Creoles as well. It’s just that in modern days, most who identify as Creole are black or mixed with black but yes Creole can & does absolutely point to those who aren’t of African ancestry as well but I would imagine that in the cases of people like myself where you can clearly tell I’m not fully white, it should go without say that I must be a Creole of at least some African descent so saying I’m Creole doesn’t absolve me from “blackness.” Thanks for understanding.
So what was she too much babbling
Creole people of america are quite similar to "coloured" people of South Africa because they are mixed dor generations dating to the 1600s and have developed their own distinct culture. There are a lot of DNA test videos from coloured people of South Africa