I hope the Rebel Alliance get their hands on the Munificent ships and modify them for use against the Galactic Empire as they are not picky in using Clone Wars-era weapons, vehicles and equipment.
They'd likely use the comms capabilities to talk to one another rather than putting them in harms way. I wouldn't be surprised if this was actually cannon.
@@generaljimmies3429 Well, the Rebels did have at least one Lucrehulk that they tried to use in a first attack on the Deathstar (Didn't go well) and a Procurator Class heavy cruiser that served as their flagship for a while before the Mon Calamari joined.
@moderndemon84 yep, any of the 3.5 or 4.0 version you can build the ship on separatists holdouts, this ship is specially good in 4.0 cuz of her low upkeep cost.
True, but you can lose them quite easily. I recommend bringing in a saboth class and providence with them. Saboth has huge amount of ion damage and debuff capability and is quite tanky.
What makes the Munificent such a good base line ship for you is the amount of durability and firepower you can put on such a relatively small ship. It’s small size means less crew to manage it and less resource intensive meaning you could field large fleets of these bad boys it’s skeletal frame may seem a weakness in its deign but in fact means there is pleats of room for modification and flexibility in roles.
So, while the Luckerhulk and to lesser extent the Providence are the Command and Control vessels, the Munificent is the Comms Vessel as well as Electronic Warfare vessel. Am i understanding that correctly?
Why didn't the Rebellion use the Munificent? Sure, I understand that they have weak armor and are cheap, and the lack of a hanger bay would have been a problem. But the advantages more than made up for its disadvantages: 1) The Rebellion wasn't rich and Munificents were more common to scavenge than other Separatist warships. 2) The Rebellion had limited personnel, so its skeletal crew requirements would have been appreciated. 3) It was fast, perfect for hit-and-run tactics. 4) Its exceptional communications would have been VITAL for the Rebellion to spread their own proganda, as well as allowing them to spy on Imperial broadcasts and communicate with the different rebel cells. Overall, the Munificent would have been GREAT for the Rebellion...it's a shame they didn't use it much.
Because vessels like the Nebulon-B and the CR90, even if probably slightly more expensive and too lightweight respectively, do its job far more efficiently. That, and also the fact the Rebellion mostly avoided Sepper tech for perceived PR reasons (as far as the Legends continuity is concerned).
@@michaelandreipalon359 yeah, the Rebellion didn't really like former separatists, so I can see why they avoid separatist tech. Still, in my opinion the separatists were, in a way, the first rebels, and it would have been nice to see them working together more often. Star Wars should make a series exploring how former separatists battled the empire.
@@michaelandreipalon359 honestly I would rather use both CIS ships and the Nebulon-B and the CR90. Heck, I would even find any intact Venator that's still in the old space battles.
@@zexalbrony4799 Look it up, though if you want the decoding of acronyms, it stands for Airborne Warning And Control System. Granted, in the vein of Star Wars, it should be deemed as SWACS.
I hope you guys make a video on the seperarist supply ship from the clone wars. Ignoring the real life reasons for it replacing the lukerhulk ship it was meant to replace it as a ship with even greater cargo capacity. Despite that the ship looks really goofy and i dont think it is a good ship in practice. I dont know of any instances of it outside the show and that one episode of rebels.
I'd like to see you make a video about the arc-170 and how you would improve it, what changes you'd make to the design, and when you would have it deployed. I find it easy to talk about what's wrong with it, but nobody talks about how it can be better and for what use. Everybody thinks it's badass in design but is very faulty; but nobody says what it needs to be better.
@@chaotixthefox That doesn't answer the question of making improvements to the ARC-170. That's just saying that you don't know how to make the star craft better, but that you know what it needs to be, which is a completely different fighter that exists later on in the universe.
@@NEWJAMHUNTER I think they're half right. Half of the problems with the ARC-170 could be solved through doctrinal changes, and the other half could be solved by further specializing the ship to a more suitable role. For long range reconnaissance, the ARC-170 is well suited, but it's not maneuverable enough to be fully effective as a mainline starfighter, particularly when up against the supermaneuverable Vulture droids and Tri-fighters fielded by the CIS. Similar problems were faced in WWII when it came to the use of twin-engine, multi-crew heavy fighters like the BF-110 (roughly analogous to the ARC-170), which lacked the maneuverability to go toe to toe with lighter single engine fighters of the day. This problem was partially solved by re-tasking such heavy fighters to more suitable roles, such as reconnaissance, ground strike, maritime patrol, and night fighting. I believe a similar change of doctrine would have been beneficial to the ARC-170, as it is already specialized in long range patrol and reconnaissance, and also seems to be capable of carrying enough ordinance to be an effective strike fighter or light bomber. I see it being used in two combat roles in particular - unescorted on long range patrols, using speed, sensors, and the element of surprise to strike vulnerable targets before enemy light fighters can be deployed in response, or escorted by friendly light fighters on closer range ground strike missions. I think some changes could also be made to its design to help it either specialize in a recon/strike role or make up for its weaknesses in close combat. for one thing, the wingtip mounted cannons are not ideal. They would be far more useful for dogfighting if they were mounted closer to the roots of the wings, or ideally on the fuselage or nose of the fighter itself. This would significantly reduce the convergence required, and hence increase effectiveness in dogfighting. Alternately, additional cannons could be mounted along the length of the wings to increase weight of shot and make up for the heavy convergence required by the weapon placement. The wingtips could instead be used for hardpoints to allow the option to carry additional ground strike or anti-ship ordinance such as missiles or torpedoes. I would also add a second defensive gun to the rear turret, as the single light gun may not have enough firepower to deter pursuit by enemy fighters. Of course, you could also just turn it into an X-wing, but that's the easy answer. 😁
200 crew and 20 000 000 to build.Huge hangar. Now look at ISD with 19000-37.085 (5.600 minimal crew) personal and 150 000 000 and only 72 Tie with no shields and cost 60 k for one. Like V ving 102 500 and shields and 2 torpedo launchers!
Like so many things in the Star Wars universe, we never really see the power written in the sourcebooks reflected in what was on screen. A couple of these, firing their heavy turbolasers and heavy, long ranged Ion cannons, should have cracked any poor Venator or Acclamator that was caught in front of them like a walnut. Instead, they just tank it. Separatist fleets never seem like the menace they should have been.
I still thing one of many missed opportunities with the sequels was that the resistances never reactivated droid factors to fight the first order. At the very least it would have bought time, for the galaxy.
They were probably the backbone of the Confederacy Navy, and no doubt that they were pivotal for the war effort to prolonged the war. Palpatine no doubt realized that the Confederacy wouldn’t last against the Republic so he and probably many of his predecessors were trying to create a warship that can be easy to make and that it can last in battle.
Yeah you have it backwards bro, the Republic barely lasted against the Confederacy that wasn't really trying to win because of Palpatine's interventions
The munificent frigate certainly pulls it weight and fulfils many roles for the CIS, whether it be as troop carrier for planetary invasions, communication ship, long range sensor scout or cheaply massed produced light frigates in a large separatist fleet.
Honestly the munificent seems to be the best ship of the clone wars.... The CIS probably would have been better using JUST munificents with a few carriers and transports mixed in. Like a 1 lukrehulk battle ship per 20 munificents would probably be a decent fleet
Still doesn't impress me that much, especially compared with Republic/Imperial and Rebel/New Republic ships. Believe me, the Seppers are the epitome of which sci-fi military types and tropes are not to my liking, mass droid usage and scrappy looking mechanized armies and navies among them.
Lol. The Separatists had the best ship composition bar the Empire. As for 'sci-fi tropes', that only applies if you consider the fleet to be mindless automatons rather than sentient beings, which of course droids all are, meaning that the ships themselves are sentient, similar to Vong ships from Legends.
@@tk-6967 ...I just don't like their designs much, for one. Am more suited to "brick-like" designs, even in other fiction like FreeSpace (the Orion-class Destroyer being one example). The Rebellion/NR, though not always "brick-like", at least have the opportunity to look a bit stylish with their ships, as seen with the Mon Calamari Star Cruisers. If you're referring to the fact that the ships aren't big droids, believe me when I say that I don't want a risk of the entire kriffing ship to be hacked, if not becoming rebellious.
Okay… what the hell are these ships? They’re titled Frigates, classed as Heavy Cruisers, fight like Battleships and act like support ships. The hell do those things actually serve as? What are they?
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It's crap. Poorly designed for any of the incompatible roles it was made to fill, and bad at combining them. Everything about it is a writer thinking, "I don't know anything about space, warfare, or design of any sort, so I'm just going to haphazardly make a bunch of nonsensical claims about its abilities for the sake of the story I'm writing." It's like most of any other sci-fi. Stupid, but with spiffy presentation. High charisma...low intelligence.
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The Munificent is actually a pretty cool ship design when you really look at it.
I really like it. It looks so unique for a sci-fi ship.
Wouldn’t be a bad choice for an aspiring pirate lord in the aftermath of the clone wars
@@Boringspy A pirate Radio lord.
@@Boringspy would be good for rebel propaganda too
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I hope the Rebel Alliance get their hands on the Munificent ships and modify them for use against the Galactic Empire as they are not picky in using Clone Wars-era weapons, vehicles and equipment.
They'd likely use the comms capabilities to talk to one another rather than putting them in harms way.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was actually cannon.
@@generaljimmies3429 Well, the Rebels did have at least one Lucrehulk that they tried to use in a first attack on the Deathstar (Didn't go well) and a Procurator Class heavy cruiser that served as their flagship for a while before the Mon Calamari joined.
@@weldonwin u mean the Providence class dreadnought Rebel One ?
Politicians would eat them alive for doing that.
In Legends the Rebel Alliance did that a lot.
In Disney canon far less so.
The munificent is by far the best swarm ship in empire at war remake. A fleet of these can destroy everything!
Remake?
@moderndemon84 yep, any of the 3.5 or 4.0 version you can build the ship on separatists holdouts, this ship is specially good in 4.0 cuz of her low upkeep cost.
True, but you can lose them quite easily. I recommend bringing in a saboth class and providence with them. Saboth has huge amount of ion damage and debuff capability and is quite tanky.
An impressive and iconic ship. Please tell us more about other Separatist vessels.
literally a perfect ship for the rebel alliance
I love the separatists frigate one of my favorite ships in star wars universe
What makes the Munificent such a good base line ship for you is the amount of durability and firepower you can put on such a relatively small ship.
It’s small size means less crew to manage it and less resource intensive meaning you could field large fleets of these bad boys it’s skeletal frame may seem a weakness in its deign but in fact means there is pleats of room for modification and flexibility in roles.
Id call it a Magnificent Starship...but many would think I just mispelled the name.
So is it wrong to say that the Munificent-class star frigates are giant WiFi that also function as warships?
No, that makes sense.
It’s not wrong, they are a long range mesh network.
Man imagine in a warship but can still play RUclips in 4k HD. In a middle of the sea.
So, while the Luckerhulk and to lesser extent the Providence are the Command and Control vessels, the Munificent is the Comms Vessel as well as Electronic Warfare vessel. Am i understanding that correctly?
I hope you do all the Separatist Ships, I really like all the Ships.
Why didn't the Rebellion use the Munificent? Sure, I understand that they have weak armor and are cheap, and the lack of a hanger bay would have been a problem. But the advantages more than made up for its disadvantages:
1) The Rebellion wasn't rich and Munificents were more common to scavenge than other Separatist warships.
2) The Rebellion had limited personnel, so its skeletal crew requirements would have been appreciated.
3) It was fast, perfect for hit-and-run tactics.
4) Its exceptional communications would have been VITAL for the Rebellion to spread their own proganda, as well as allowing them to spy on Imperial broadcasts and communicate with the different rebel cells.
Overall, the Munificent would have been GREAT for the Rebellion...it's a shame they didn't use it much.
Because vessels like the Nebulon-B and the CR90, even if probably slightly more expensive and too lightweight respectively, do its job far more efficiently.
That, and also the fact the Rebellion mostly avoided Sepper tech for perceived PR reasons (as far as the Legends continuity is concerned).
@@michaelandreipalon359 yeah, the Rebellion didn't really like former separatists, so I can see why they avoid separatist tech. Still, in my opinion the separatists were, in a way, the first rebels, and it would have been nice to see them working together more often. Star Wars should make a series exploring how former separatists battled the empire.
@@midniteraptor1474 That, I can agree, complete with grudging and at times directly hostile interaction with the Rebels themselves.
@@michaelandreipalon359 honestly I would rather use both CIS ships and the Nebulon-B and the CR90. Heck, I would even find any intact Venator that's still in the old space battles.
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You built an entire ship just for secure communication purposes.
IGBC: Yes.
Paranoid and big spenders much.
lol.
Basically, AWACS, but overkill, correct?
@@michaelandreipalon359 I'm not entirely sure what AWACS is, but yes, overkill.
@@zexalbrony4799 Look it up, though if you want the decoding of acronyms, it stands for Airborne Warning And Control System.
Granted, in the vein of Star Wars, it should be deemed as SWACS.
badass frontal cannons, armored sheaths? yep its munificent time. glory to the independent systems
Love to see you cover the galactic civil war in legends.
7:20 this feels like where most would stick a VPN plug
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The Providence Destroyer and CIS Core ship and CIS lukerhaul battleship
Militarily, the Munificent is the B1 of warships.
I hope you guys make a video on the seperarist supply ship from the clone wars. Ignoring the real life reasons for it replacing the lukerhulk ship it was meant to replace it as a ship with even greater cargo capacity. Despite that the ship looks really goofy and i dont think it is a good ship in practice. I dont know of any instances of it outside the show and that one episode of rebels.
I'd like to see you make a video about the arc-170 and how you would improve it, what changes you'd make to the design, and when you would have it deployed. I find it easy to talk about what's wrong with it, but nobody talks about how it can be better and for what use. Everybody thinks it's badass in design but is very faulty; but nobody says what it needs to be better.
Asking the real questions here.
For the ARC-170 to be better it needs to be further developed. The result of which is the X-Wing.
@@chaotixthefox That doesn't answer the question of making improvements to the ARC-170. That's just saying that you don't know how to make the star craft better, but that you know what it needs to be, which is a completely different fighter that exists later on in the universe.
@@NEWJAMHUNTER Basically, strip away extraneous features to make way for mobility and independent operation capability with reduced crew requirement.
@@NEWJAMHUNTER I think they're half right. Half of the problems with the ARC-170 could be solved through doctrinal changes, and the other half could be solved by further specializing the ship to a more suitable role. For long range reconnaissance, the ARC-170 is well suited, but it's not maneuverable enough to be fully effective as a mainline starfighter, particularly when up against the supermaneuverable Vulture droids and Tri-fighters fielded by the CIS.
Similar problems were faced in WWII when it came to the use of twin-engine, multi-crew heavy fighters like the BF-110 (roughly analogous to the ARC-170), which lacked the maneuverability to go toe to toe with lighter single engine fighters of the day. This problem was partially solved by re-tasking such heavy fighters to more suitable roles, such as reconnaissance, ground strike, maritime patrol, and night fighting.
I believe a similar change of doctrine would have been beneficial to the ARC-170, as it is already specialized in long range patrol and reconnaissance, and also seems to be capable of carrying enough ordinance to be an effective strike fighter or light bomber. I see it being used in two combat roles in particular - unescorted on long range patrols, using speed, sensors, and the element of surprise to strike vulnerable targets before enemy light fighters can be deployed in response, or escorted by friendly light fighters on closer range ground strike missions.
I think some changes could also be made to its design to help it either specialize in a recon/strike role or make up for its weaknesses in close combat. for one thing, the wingtip mounted cannons are not ideal. They would be far more useful for dogfighting if they were mounted closer to the roots of the wings, or ideally on the fuselage or nose of the fighter itself. This would significantly reduce the convergence required, and hence increase effectiveness in dogfighting. Alternately, additional cannons could be mounted along the length of the wings to increase weight of shot and make up for the heavy convergence required by the weapon placement. The wingtips could instead be used for hardpoints to allow the option to carry additional ground strike or anti-ship ordinance such as missiles or torpedoes. I would also add a second defensive gun to the rear turret, as the single light gun may not have enough firepower to deter pursuit by enemy fighters.
Of course, you could also just turn it into an X-wing, but that's the easy answer. 😁
So, considering it has a protected private holonet, Can we consider this a vpn holonet ?
200 crew and 20 000 000 to build.Huge hangar. Now look at ISD with 19000-37.085 (5.600 minimal crew) personal and 150 000 000 and only 72 Tie with no shields and cost 60 k for one. Like V ving 102 500 and shields and 2 torpedo launchers!
It was probably also easier for the C.I.S. to censor dissidents given that the navy doubled as the public I.S.P..
I will always drop whatever I'm doing to watch a new video on the Providence class capital ships! I'd love to see more of that!
"Attention, sergeant on deck!"... and i feel right at home.
The CIS would have won if the game wasn't rigged
A lot of CIS ships look like guns, I swear they do
Shame neither of them are glorified railguns.
Food, munificent looks like a fish bone, providence looks like a tuna, recuscant basically is a salmon thing and the lucrehulk is space donut
@@Nick-em3qj I call that Space Donut the Donut Boi.
So it was a giant angry armed 5G antenna
It kinda looked like a submarine crossed with a plane depending on the view one looks at it
That next ship you should cover is the Ascendant Spear from the book Star Wars The Old Republic: Annihilation.
Like so many things in the Star Wars universe, we never really see the power written in the sourcebooks reflected in what was on screen. A couple of these, firing their heavy turbolasers and heavy, long ranged Ion cannons, should have cracked any poor Venator or Acclamator that was caught in front of them like a walnut. Instead, they just tank it. Separatist fleets never seem like the menace they should have been.
Just a question though, what happened to their own holonet when they ceded control of the banks to the chancellor?
I still thing one of many missed opportunities with the sequels was that the resistances never reactivated droid factors to fight the first order. At the very least it would have bought time, for the galaxy.
They were probably the backbone of the Confederacy Navy, and no doubt that they were pivotal for the war effort to prolonged the war. Palpatine no doubt realized that the Confederacy wouldn’t last against the Republic so he and probably many of his predecessors were trying to create a warship that can be easy to make and that it can last in battle.
Yeah you have it backwards bro, the Republic barely lasted against the Confederacy that wasn't really trying to win because of Palpatine's interventions
providence class carrier/destroyer next please
The munificent frigate certainly pulls it weight and fulfils many roles for the CIS, whether it be as troop carrier for planetary invasions, communication ship, long range sensor scout or cheaply massed produced light frigates in a large separatist fleet.
Honestly the munificent seems to be the best ship of the clone wars.... The CIS probably would have been better using JUST munificents with a few carriers and transports mixed in. Like a 1 lukrehulk battle ship per 20 munificents would probably be a decent fleet
The Senate is genius.
I want to write a Star Wars fic where pirates take over and modify a Munificent and grow a small pirate fleet.
I LOVE THIS SHIP
If you have not could you please cover the Emergency Fire Speeder?
"Were good soldiers, we follow orders, but we are not a bunch of unthinking droids! We are men!" - ARC - 5555
Hope Imperials or FO will use these ships against Rebel sсum in future Disney projects.
How many Munificents were destroyed/lost during the Battle of Coruscant?
Too many to count.
@@merafirewing6591 “I lost count,how many does that make?”
Can these ships land on flat surfaces tho? That always bugged me cuz they have that long fin thing at the bottom
please do next the lucrehulk
Why is it called a “Frigate” when’s it’s a heavy cruiser?
Because that was its main role, to carry cargo
CIS best faction
So basically the Separatists created ships that could mine Bitcoin in speeds never seen before in the Galaxy.
Bitcoin Wars.
Please Revive the Cis post ROJ
The Munificent was Star Wars Starlink?
Providence ？
Still doesn't impress me that much, especially compared with Republic/Imperial and Rebel/New Republic ships. Believe me, the Seppers are the epitome of which sci-fi military types and tropes are not to my liking, mass droid usage and scrappy looking mechanized armies and navies among them.
Lol. The Separatists had the best ship composition bar the Empire. As for 'sci-fi tropes', that only applies if you consider the fleet to be mindless automatons rather than sentient beings, which of course droids all are, meaning that the ships themselves are sentient, similar to Vong ships from Legends.
@@tk-6967 ...I just don't like their designs much, for one. Am more suited to "brick-like" designs, even in other fiction like FreeSpace (the Orion-class Destroyer being one example). The Rebellion/NR, though not always "brick-like", at least have the opportunity to look a bit stylish with their ships, as seen with the Mon Calamari Star Cruisers.
If you're referring to the fact that the ships aren't big droids, believe me when I say that I don't want a risk of the entire kriffing ship to be hacked, if not becoming rebellious.
Okay… what the hell are these ships? They’re titled Frigates, classed as Heavy Cruisers, fight like Battleships and act like support ships. The hell do those things actually serve as? What are they?
The titel is how long they are
A ship is called a frigate when it is between (idk) meters long
3:02 man, that ai generated munificent is off putting
The CIS could’ve wiped the republic in a matter of months if they weren’t made to lose by Sidious lol
I was expecting a VPN sponsorship around the middle there...
But we know thst this ship has at least 1 hangar bay. Otherwise the 501st couldnt have escaped from cad banes ship.
Thanks for the video! I hadn’t know much about the Munificent.
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It's crap.
Poorly designed for any of the incompatible roles it was made to fill, and bad at combining them. Everything about it is a writer thinking, "I don't know anything about space, warfare, or design of any sort, so I'm just going to haphazardly make a bunch of nonsensical claims about its abilities for the sake of the story I'm writing."
It's like most of any other sci-fi. Stupid, but with spiffy presentation. High charisma...low intelligence.
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I LOVE THIS SHIP