What are the chances! Me and my wife sat next to you on a flight from Nashville, and here I am on youtube searching mission command and I come across this video! Hope all is well Sir!
Think you failed to mention that this is by no means a new (nor American) concept. Mission Command is the latest take on auftragstaktik - Gen. Helmuth von Moltke, the Chief of the Prussian General Staff during the Franco-Prussian War, defined Auftragstaktik as the actions a subordinate took in the absence of orders that supported the senior commanders intent. Auftragstaktik formed the operational model for German shock troops in WW1 and the Wehrmacht in WW2. The concept of Mission Command builds on these concepts and was developed for large unit operations by the brits in the 70's and 80's (was used by special forces before that).
IIRC the prussian military used it a bit longer at least since the 7 years war and it was not absence of orders but missions instead and it was not limited to the shock troops in WWI
For decades, the US Army seemed to lack appreciation for the origins of mission command even within its own doctrinal history. For example, the 1962 edition of FM 100-5 doesn't yet use the term "mission command," but it does say: "Mission type orders are used to the greatest practicable extent, but should provide the commander's concept, or intent, to insure that subordinate commanders, acting on their own initiative, direct their efforts to the attainment of the overall objective." This is far from the earliest time that the core concepts of mission command appear in US doctrine. Field Service Regulations from 1905 explains: "An order should not trespass on the province of a subordinate. It should contain everything which is beyond the independent authority of the subordinate, but nothing more. … It should lay stress upon the object to be attained, and leave open the means to be employed." The 1914 FSR notes: "Officers and men of all ranks and grades are given a certain independence in the execution of tasks to which they are assigned and are expected to show initiative in meeting the different situations as they arise. Every individual from the highest commander to the lowest private, must always remember that inaction and neglect of opportunities will warrant more severe censure than an error in the choice of the means."
@G.I.HistoryHandbook this may be the Marine in me speaking from the Marinee standpoint, but ill go with: it appears to me that there is a misunderstanding as to what command and control (C2) is as a concept, ie as the COl stated in the vidoe of a commander telling a subordinate exactly what to do. This is not what C2 is. C2 as a concept separates the concept of command from the concept of control. What this essentially boils down to is command being the authority to decide what needs to be done and control being the authority to decide how its done. In example, a BN commander may give an order that company A is to sieze possition X at Y time, and the commander of company A has the latitude to organize their organic forces and attachments and to decide the concept of operations for tye conduct of the assigned mission. Within every level of command, that commander has the latitude to develop their own concept of operations to meet the assigned missions, and assigns missions to subordinate commanders within that concept of operations that the subordinate will the develop their own concept of operations on how they will meet that mission.
This guy is so far off the mark it’s unreal. It all sounds good but, but his explanation of MC is one born of salami sliced PME without any actual evidence. It’s really really poor.
It's not a new concept, it's developed and implemented in warfare since the 19th century in Germany. Back then due to the lack of recon and radio the individual combat units pretty much faced the same conditions of their respective theatre like the NATO in Afghanistan. Where is the enemy and what are his capabilities? How is the terrain and environment in reality? Thus they developed the Auftragstaktik, the "task centred tactics". They got even further with concept, all unit leaders are trained up to two levels above their scale. This way a leader of a platoon could lead and organize a battalion if needed and more important, could think on a bigger scale while trying to achieve his task.
I served under your command, it was a pleasure. I find it crazy you are still able to help develop me as a better leader even though I left your command years ago. Thank you Sir.
Thank you Sir, as a junior NCO and working in Support Operations this is very helpful, it all makes more sense than reading something but not knowing or understanding what you are reading.
Concept of mission command exisisted since Prussian war-seen and studied by US after being use by Wehrmacht as Auftragstaktik.Think one of the best country applying it to real fight is Sweden and their famous NordBat 2 in Bosnia.
It seems for me that MC requires much more training from your subordinates in order to be used at all. How can one tell that person A has enough expertise and person B doesn't? I'm trying to apply this to a more civilian case, where there's no definite schools on the subject
Thank you sir. I am a team leader in a MC training unit and your video summarizes in a few minutes what takes us weeks to teach our client units. Great video.
Thank you COL Lopez. Very engaging teaching. I have a question about mission command. It sounds very familiar with Auftrags Taktik. Are the two the same or are they different?
Sir, these videos are outstanding and a huge help. As a SNCO in the Air Force, we are currently adapting to Mission Command, and I’ve been referencing your videos regularly in my training plan development. Truly awesome insight!
This was one of the best movies in the Predator saga. I absolutely loved the character Naru. She was strong, determined, smart, devoted, disciplined, brave - everything a great hunter/warrior needed to be. Yet, she was not inexplicably skilled, (unlike Rey, in "Star Wars: The Force Awakens.") We see Naru constantly training hard, making mistakes and learning from them. Audiences love to see the hero overcome crazy odds to defeat an immensely superior opponent. The final fight scene between Naru and the Predator had me cheering loudly for that tough little lady. She made me proud to be a human being. LOL Good movie!
They have you pictures, they say they are in an undisclosed region somewhere not in the states. They’ve been there since last year if it you that is there and I’m wrong sorry but if I’m not wrong you should check it out
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Embate entre: ◇ Command control (certeza de qual é a vantagem competitiva no campo e agilidade no cumprimento). ◇ Mission command (incerteza do que seria vantajoso no campo e flexibilidade adaptativa).
This is an Officer who is passionate and dedicated to SOLDIERS, Great Video Sir.
What are the chances! Me and my wife sat next to you on a flight from Nashville, and here I am on youtube searching mission command and I come across this video! Hope all is well Sir!
Think you failed to mention that this is by no means a new (nor American) concept. Mission Command is the latest take on auftragstaktik - Gen. Helmuth von Moltke, the Chief of the Prussian General Staff during the Franco-Prussian War, defined Auftragstaktik as the actions a subordinate took in the absence of orders that supported the senior commanders intent. Auftragstaktik formed the operational model for German shock troops in WW1 and the Wehrmacht in WW2. The concept of Mission Command builds on these concepts and was developed for large unit operations by the brits in the 70's and 80's (was used by special forces before that).
IIRC the prussian military used it a bit longer at least since the 7 years war and it was not absence of orders but missions instead and it was not limited to the shock troops in WWI
For decades, the US Army seemed to lack appreciation for the origins of mission command even within its own doctrinal history. For example, the 1962 edition of FM 100-5 doesn't yet use the term "mission command," but it does say: "Mission type orders are used to the greatest practicable extent, but should provide the commander's concept, or intent, to insure that subordinate commanders, acting on their own initiative, direct their efforts to the attainment of the overall objective."
This is far from the earliest time that the core concepts of mission command appear in US doctrine. Field Service Regulations from 1905 explains: "An order should not trespass on the province of a subordinate. It should contain everything which is beyond the independent authority of the subordinate, but nothing more. … It should lay stress upon the object to be attained, and leave open the means to be employed."
The 1914 FSR notes: "Officers and men of all ranks and grades are given a certain independence in the execution of tasks to which they are assigned and are expected to show initiative in meeting the different situations as they arise. Every individual from the highest commander to the lowest private, must always remember that inaction and neglect of opportunities will warrant more severe censure than an error in the choice of the means."
@G.I.HistoryHandbook this may be the Marine in me speaking from the Marinee standpoint, but ill go with: it appears to me that there is a misunderstanding as to what command and control (C2) is as a concept, ie as the COl stated in the vidoe of a commander telling a subordinate exactly what to do. This is not what C2 is. C2 as a concept separates the concept of command from the concept of control. What this essentially boils down to is command being the authority to decide what needs to be done and control being the authority to decide how its done. In example, a BN commander may give an order that company A is to sieze possition X at Y time, and the commander of company A has the latitude to organize their organic forces and attachments and to decide the concept of operations for tye conduct of the assigned mission. Within every level of command, that commander has the latitude to develop their own concept of operations to meet the assigned missions, and assigns missions to subordinate commanders within that concept of operations that the subordinate will the develop their own concept of operations on how they will meet that mission.
This guy is so far off the mark it’s unreal. It all sounds good but, but his explanation of MC is one born of salami sliced PME without any actual evidence. It’s really really poor.
This man teaches dry, abstract doctrine in a clear, concise manner that is very engaging. Thank you, COL Lopez.
It's not a new concept, it's developed and implemented in warfare since the 19th century in Germany. Back then due to the lack of recon and radio the individual combat units pretty much faced the same conditions of their respective theatre like the NATO in Afghanistan. Where is the enemy and what are his capabilities? How is the terrain and environment in reality? Thus they developed the Auftragstaktik, the "task centred tactics". They got even further with concept, all unit leaders are trained up to two levels above their scale. This way a leader of a platoon could lead and organize a battalion if needed and more important, could think on a bigger scale while trying to achieve his task.
Auftragstaktik depends on independence of command
I served under your command, it was a pleasure. I find it crazy you are still able to help develop me as a better leader even though I left your command years ago. Thank you Sir.
Thank you Sir, as a junior NCO and working in Support Operations this is very helpful, it all makes more sense than reading something but not knowing or understanding what you are reading.
Currently going through MLC and this is the best way anyone has explained CC vs MC to me. Thank you sir
Concept of mission command exisisted since Prussian war-seen and studied by US after being use by Wehrmacht as Auftragstaktik.Think one of the best country applying it to real fight is Sweden and their famous NordBat 2 in Bosnia.
It seems for me that MC requires much more training from your subordinates in order to be used at all. How can one tell that person A has enough expertise and person B doesn't? I'm trying to apply this to a more civilian case, where there's no definite schools on the subject
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Thank you sir. I am a team leader in a MC training unit and your video summarizes in a few minutes what takes us weeks to teach our client units. Great video.
Glad the video could help you and your team!
Good words well spoken
Sir, out of all the videos I have seen about this topic you have spoken the best. Thank you COL Lopez.
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Thank you COL Lopez. Very engaging teaching. I have a question about mission command. It sounds very familiar with Auftrags Taktik. Are the two the same or are they different?
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This is awesome.
As a new leader this is extremely helpful for me for understanding basic army leadership and fundamental concepts.
Sir, these videos are outstanding and a huge help. As a SNCO in the Air Force, we are currently adapting to Mission Command, and I’ve been referencing your videos regularly in my training plan development. Truly awesome insight!
This was one of the best movies in the Predator saga. I absolutely loved the character Naru. She was strong, determined, smart, devoted, disciplined, brave - everything a great hunter/warrior needed to be. Yet, she was not inexplicably skilled, (unlike Rey, in "Star Wars: The Force Awakens.") We see Naru constantly training hard, making mistakes and learning from them. Audiences love to see the hero overcome crazy odds to defeat an immensely superior opponent. The final fight scene between Naru and the Predator had me cheering loudly for that tough little lady. She made me proud to be a human being. LOL Good movie!
Awesome Video Sir, simple and easy to understand, as a junior officer I admire you passion for teaching
Great Presentation...I needed this.
Thanks for making it a lot clearer to me. Greetings from Italy
Haven’t seen you post in a while but I stayed subscribed because I knew you would be back again with great info.
This is fantastic
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Great video Sir! Looking forward to the series!
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They have you pictures, they say they are in an undisclosed region somewhere not in the states. They’ve been there since last year if it you that is there and I’m wrong sorry but if I’m not wrong you should check it out
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Embate entre:
◇ Command control (certeza de qual é a vantagem competitiva no campo e agilidade no cumprimento).
◇ Mission command (incerteza do que seria vantajoso no campo e flexibilidade adaptativa).
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Great job Sir. Outstanding way of communicating to the force.
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