SO Sora MIGHT Actually Be TOP TIER...

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  • Опубликовано: 13 ноя 2021
  • Sora is probably one of the most debated potential top tiers of ALL the DLC in Smash Ultimate, however not too long ago a Japanese player called Zackray made waves by winning a MAJOR with the character so now we got to ask ourselves whether Sora might ACTUALLY be TOP TIER...
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Комментарии • 123

  • @nes8779
    @nes8779 2 года назад +55

    Yeah, I think Sora has really good potential. Zack makes him look honestly insane

  • @parishharris819
    @parishharris819 2 года назад +36

    fun fact. Sora's feet don't have a hurtbox except for when he does dash attack. At all. Its kinda dumb

    • @deadzipper1777
      @deadzipper1777 2 года назад +9

      Cries in Mewtwo

    • @returnoftherat641
      @returnoftherat641 2 года назад +22

      How tf dks tie have a hit box but not this dude's massive clown shoes

    • @YamashitaKoikeDS
      @YamashitaKoikeDS 2 года назад +1

      At some point when Up B's he either doesn't have a hurtbox or enters the Z Axis. I forgot to record an arena replay where DDD had his Gordo on ledge and Sora just Up B'd through it.

    • @IoSkyBoyoI
      @IoSkyBoyoI 2 года назад +1

      I find I endlessly defo hit sora but it just doesn't connect.
      Like it goes through him. I find sora really hard to hit. My moves seem to just phase through him all the time. Wonder if this is partly why.

    • @2FadeMusic
      @2FadeMusic 2 года назад +2

      @@returnoftherat641 cus 5.99

  • @flavor_text8757
    @flavor_text8757 2 года назад +98

    I agree with marss wanting people to use counter more but in shulk’s case his counter is so terrible.

    • @nahlies2382
      @nahlies2382 2 года назад +12

      Soras counter is almost what they seemed to try to do with shulks funnily enough

    • @scrublord9505
      @scrublord9505 2 года назад +3

      He just wants people to use counter more so he could make more people look stupid for content

    • @flavor_text8757
      @flavor_text8757 2 года назад +1

      @@nahlies2382 Exactly

    • @stixsis4656
      @stixsis4656 2 года назад +5

      There's this crazy mod called Smash Ultimate Championship Edition where one of the changes is that they tried to make Shulk's counter replicate what it does in games. Instead of damaging the opponent, it reverses their last actions and makes them repeat it while the Shulk player has time to reposition and counterattack. It makes me wish it was like that in base Ultimate cause its sounds nuts

    • @tenacity25
      @tenacity25 2 года назад +4

      @@stixsis4656 It also sounds like it would be a mess for a number of reasons, especially taking into account playing with more than 2 players (1 on 1) in a game.
      Hard to balance, hard to make work in the first place, prone to breaking and generally a source of many glitches/exploits, and easy to have too fast for the Shulk or abnormally slow for the pacing of the game. Those are just potential problems that I thought of on the fly, who knows what else could happen. Just sounds like a programming mess for a game like Ultimate, despite being a cool concept.

  • @Imstillhangintherethankgod
    @Imstillhangintherethankgod 2 года назад +41

    "Committing is scary"
    Words my dad lives by

  • @stubbornwentmissing
    @stubbornwentmissing 2 года назад +10

    5:50 while kome did pop above ledge, sora ftilt 1 actually does 2 frame i've seen tweek use it a ton

  • @grayae519
    @grayae519 2 года назад +26

    not gonna lie, Lights Sora actually goes dummy also

  • @Prexon339
    @Prexon339 2 года назад +36

    I watched this set a while ago, and was just really impressed

    • @Hose_10
      @Hose_10 2 года назад +1

      Comradeship

    • @shikarixox1195
      @shikarixox1195 2 года назад +1

      Hear that, guys? Prexon339 here was really impressed.

    • @Prexon339
      @Prexon339 2 года назад +2

      Shikari xox

    • @Prexon339
      @Prexon339 2 года назад +1

      @@Hose_10 also I literally got noticed by 3 other people from discord lmao

    • @Hose_10
      @Hose_10 2 года назад +1

      @@Prexon339 gamer

  • @hollydefnet4705
    @hollydefnet4705 2 года назад +9

    This guy literally watched the sora reveal with Aqua's keyblade in his hands... and he says Zack is cringe for liking KH...

    • @KevSB07
      @KevSB07 2 года назад

      Well he thinks kingdom hearts is super overrated…his girlfriend is all over it and he watched the reveal with her

  • @StormierNik
    @StormierNik 2 года назад +12

    7:18 Surprisingly it isn't Z-Axis business, Sora's clown shoes just don't actually have a hurtbox. His hurtbox stops at his ankles.

    • @ISoundMasterBlasterI
      @ISoundMasterBlasterI 2 года назад

      Disney kicks too strong

    • @KrisPChikin
      @KrisPChikin 2 года назад

      Does it exist during dash attack? And what in $5.99 made them think that getting rid of his clown shoe hurtbox was a good idea?

    • @StormierNik
      @StormierNik 2 года назад +1

      @@KrisPChikin You probably found out by now but yes and no. There's no shoe hurtbox during dash attack, but near the later half of the move there's a hurtbox placed between his legs at shoe level so that you can still hit him there without Z-Axis issues. Because at that point his legs start to spread out a bunch out from the axis.
      Clownshoes having no hurtbox through most of the active frames is part of why its so damn good.

    • @KrisPChikin
      @KrisPChikin 2 года назад +1

      @@StormierNik much appreciated, pretty much $5.99 saving you from dealing with MewTwo tail issues 👍

  • @christopheraudd6352
    @christopheraudd6352 2 года назад +9

    imagine if the new number one player switched from zss to dlc

  • @yourheroes5874
    @yourheroes5874 2 года назад +55

    “Sora is annoying with his voice lines”
    *So is like the majority of the jrpg fighters in the game*

    • @JacobPDeIiNoNi
      @JacobPDeIiNoNi 2 года назад +1

      Sora, male corrin, fox, and falco are the worst for me. Their English voices are just kinda annoying.

    • @staticshock4239
      @staticshock4239 2 года назад +4

      Maybe I'm biased but Sora's voice lines aren't nearly as bad as Ness.

    • @zachtemoro2116
      @zachtemoro2116 2 года назад +11

      Its not hard to listen to unless you’re a dude bro who hates on Anime because its Anime. Trust me, Sora isn’t the worst dubbed anime person to exist

    • @ISoundMasterBlasterI
      @ISoundMasterBlasterI 2 года назад

      @@staticshock4239 Ness is hands down the most annoying character to play against based on audio alone lmao

    • @Alejandro333777
      @Alejandro333777 2 года назад

      @@staticshock4239 pizza 🍕 crust

  • @johnjo6315
    @johnjo6315 2 года назад +3

    That Japanese laugh reminds me of that meme with the dude rubbing his hands and laughing in the same way 💀

  • @nonplayercharacter12333
    @nonplayercharacter12333 2 года назад

    That sub bit was comedy gold. BLESS YOU, MR. EDITOR.

  • @user-mu7nd8ee2t
    @user-mu7nd8ee2t 2 года назад

    1:38 笑いが抑えられなかった🤣

  • @temmie2032
    @temmie2032 2 года назад +4

    Fighters pass 2 moment

  • @EternallApprentace
    @EternallApprentace 2 года назад +2

    Yes editor, I understood you at the end of that sub joke

  • @MineCraft-ti6wt
    @MineCraft-ti6wt 2 года назад +2

    Anata wa watashi no chan'neru ni kimasu. Anata wa kōdoku sezu ni watashi no bideo o mimasu ka? Anata wa ima yori yoi sabudearu ka,-sōdenakereba anata no kazoku zen'in ga kaputsudesu.
    AHaAhA
    -definitely Marss

  • @jaysonjaime3118
    @jaysonjaime3118 2 года назад +10

    😭 “might is a understandment” everyone saying sora might be that’s cap, you can look at soras kit and just see he is top tier ! It’s just he’s brand new lol

    • @yawns3004
      @yawns3004 2 года назад +2

      His floaty DJ might bring him down a bit

    • @randallc522
      @randallc522 2 года назад

      Yeah being floaty and light could be the deciding factor of him not being top tier. Like you said tho he's still new and no one knows how to fully play him yet, but it goes both ways. We also don't know how to really play against him yet. So as players develop with Sora in the game could be what actually decides if he's top tier or not.

    • @CaptainDCap
      @CaptainDCap 2 года назад

      @@randallc522 How to play against Sora: Play a short character he can't cheese with shorthop/landing aerials. That's it. You just won the matchup.
      Particularly Pika.
      And Meta Knight. Meta Knight has a stupid easy guaranteed ZtD combo on Sora he can only escape from if MK times his up airs wrong. Not to mention, MK had the absolute best off-stage game until Sora came along, and it's still debatable whose is better.
      The only thing MK has to worry about is his playstyle. Normally MK likes to camp the air, but against Sora, you need to play a very grounded game.

    • @Alejandro333777
      @Alejandro333777 2 года назад

      And people hating also

    • @Alejandro333777
      @Alejandro333777 2 года назад

      @@randallc522 literally zachray the top player says you’re wrong his floatiness has nothing to do with it

  • @ryan20xx70
    @ryan20xx70 2 года назад +1

    A great trick to side B w Sora is just using the first dash and stopping. Excellent cross up tool to then go into a grab or combo.

    • @DZlegend
      @DZlegend 2 года назад +1

      Even better thats net me Ws in close games is Sonic Blade once under a platform it creates a tech situation. Read a tech or catch a missed tech with up smash its beautiful.

    • @ryan20xx70
      @ryan20xx70 2 года назад

      @@DZlegend works almost every time

  • @visiongamiiing
    @visiongamiiing 2 года назад

    Is this a reupload i feeel like ive seen this vid 3 days ago

  • @Raytech7r
    @Raytech7r 2 года назад

    Bro he said with shulk “you can become Jesus Christ on command” lmfaooooo

  • @agaed7676
    @agaed7676 2 года назад

    Shuton was just like
    I ain’t pay enough to deal with this character right now and ran across the stage

  • @gabriellee4584
    @gabriellee4584 2 года назад +3

    PLEASE drop zss for Sora

  • @MrToxicB1izzard
    @MrToxicB1izzard 2 года назад +13

    Zack's Sora is naughty, but I think Fatality's Sora is the future.

    • @beansfebreeze
      @beansfebreeze 2 года назад

      It's really too bad he probably won't use Sora because it doesn't help his bad MUs

  • @SinggaSongg
    @SinggaSongg 2 года назад

    my mans really said in there like swimwear all tri-state like and everything lol

  • @xoalarr
    @xoalarr 2 года назад +2

    I fell like I’ve watched this exact video before

    • @stephendonovan9084
      @stephendonovan9084 2 года назад +2

      I think Panda did a video on this tournament which used some of the same clips

  • @hi-mx8xk
    @hi-mx8xk 2 года назад

    You got 125k subs, give us our ledge run tutorial.

  • @arusu6478
    @arusu6478 2 года назад +3

    Sora is simple and crazy

  • @nicstead3820
    @nicstead3820 2 года назад +6

    I like how whenever a player does very well with a character, that character gets the glory. Oh Sora must be amazing he won a major! No, Zachray one of the best players in the world won a major with Sora. Byleth must be top tier too! No, literally only the best player in the world is doing crazy things with her. Average smash player IQ = 70.

    • @ReconNarwhal
      @ReconNarwhal 2 года назад +1

      In this same tournament a Corrin/Byleth player almost got top 8, lmao. Top players don’t use characters without potential. Zackray wasn’t even projected to win this tournament. People should be skeptical of basing their thoughts on one major tournament result, but that doesn’t mean you should completely ignore it either

    • @JustGoldy77
      @JustGoldy77 2 года назад +1

      Zachray doesn’t run Japan, he can’t just roll up and win a MAJOR even the last kakgiri he didn’t win with his mains, clearly with the evidence provided Sora has SOME potential.

  • @e-duh3529
    @e-duh3529 2 года назад

    What's the character Kome is using?

  • @KandiKid87
    @KandiKid87 2 года назад

    Lol. The subscribe thing. XD

  • @LokiVolpe25
    @LokiVolpe25 2 года назад

    Why did tss laugh like that ahaha 😶😭😂

  • @kidpresident_1475
    @kidpresident_1475 2 года назад +1

    Mars' jokes are REALLY bad but you gotta hand it to the kid; he knows his smash.

  • @sahilsony6235
    @sahilsony6235 2 года назад

    8:17 Sephiroth is lighter than Kirby, Pikachu and Olimar ???

  • @CloudAkA21
    @CloudAkA21 2 года назад

    No Z-axis shit involved his feet don'thave any hitboxes 😂

  • @moflesmcqueen4897
    @moflesmcqueen4897 2 года назад

    Anyone knows the outro song?🙏

    • @Awllecks
      @Awllecks Год назад

      Dearly Beloved (swing version)

  • @Alejandro333777
    @Alejandro333777 2 года назад

    What's that anime at 7:03

  • @DaSlippyNana
    @DaSlippyNana 2 года назад

    Everything he said at the end is Flipkick in a nutshell🤦‍♂️

  • @Nate_505
    @Nate_505 2 года назад

    I think Marss should play Palutena tbh

  • @janimbach129
    @janimbach129 2 года назад

    Marss should face the fact that he has become a content creator

  • @phatcat-st4gb
    @phatcat-st4gb 2 года назад

    1:00 how about f smash? Down smash? Fair? Blizzaga?

    • @herewego5679
      @herewego5679 2 года назад

      F smash not safe, down smash not safe, forward hard to space properly, blizzaga is actually the only good one. Down smash good for low shield ig

  • @Mygfispretty
    @Mygfispretty 2 года назад

    Hope MainStage doesn’t get to you. Keep working man. Best Player In The World

  • @bumptyy7543
    @bumptyy7543 2 года назад

    Why did marss look stoned to the gills in this vid lmao?

    • @redfieldwong717
      @redfieldwong717 2 года назад

      Because after last night he probably had to burn just to cope with his that pathetic display he showed yesterday

  • @DemonEyeHelix
    @DemonEyeHelix 2 года назад

    How could Zackray do this to Shuton the Hero????

  • @Lmb_kun
    @Lmb_kun 2 года назад +1

    WWWW moment

  • @produck11
    @produck11 2 года назад

    22

  • @tnsxpm
    @tnsxpm 2 года назад +1

    sora *IS* top tier

  • @joehmajma
    @joehmajma 2 года назад

    his zss doesn’t suck, zss just sucks

  • @xan_druh
    @xan_druh 2 года назад

    I like you. are you from new jersey?

  • @tristenherron1273
    @tristenherron1273 2 года назад

    jokes on you i play kirby

  • @deadzipper1777
    @deadzipper1777 2 года назад

    His name is Marss, he speaks fluent Japanese.

  • @BackdropDiscovery
    @BackdropDiscovery 2 года назад

    Did you really just try to say "Do you feel me" In Japanese???? hahaha

  • @darksyde0418
    @darksyde0418 2 года назад

    Dope

  • @YamashitaKoikeDS
    @YamashitaKoikeDS 2 года назад +2

    Sora is boring, jank and/or weird to play against. It's not hard but not fun cause he is wonky with bad stats. Yet he has the light/floaty problem where he doesn't die when he really should and the game chooses when Z Axis works

  • @xmarciasxshorts7953
    @xmarciasxshorts7953 2 года назад

    marss was drunk right? xd

  • @JoCoMoreno
    @JoCoMoreno 2 года назад

    Lol might be top tier.
    Sora is fin broken. His moves make sooo many characters obsolete.

  • @autoimmunedefficiencysyndrome
    @autoimmunedefficiencysyndrome 2 года назад

    This is such a *duh* moment

  • @leooloughlin8298
    @leooloughlin8298 2 года назад

    Noice

  • @chicken-nugget5830
    @chicken-nugget5830 2 года назад

    I’m the first here😁

  • @nugget7010
    @nugget7010 2 года назад

    mkleo is carried

  • @Icup_yuk
    @Icup_yuk 2 года назад

    First

  • @SDfighter1
    @SDfighter1 2 года назад

    Marss you should pick up a secondary. Zss sux.

  • @johns1307
    @johns1307 2 года назад

    The constant zooming in on the facecam and cutting through the footage ruins the entertainment value of watching the fight. What the fuck is the point?

  • @GreenTense
    @GreenTense 2 года назад +3

    I mean a character that literally negates the game’s core mechanics (falling off stage) has to be top tier, that character is just impossible to edge guard, add on top of that the fact he can mash moves for free but that’s just ultimate being janky and mashy
    I really hope in the next game, neutral actually exists instead of it just mashing so bad players can stop being rewarded for being bad 🤷

    • @odindarkll3706
      @odindarkll3706 2 года назад

      Well, Villager isn't top tier by a long shot, but there is Pikachu, ig. I don't believe having good recovery means guaranteed top tier when characters like Wolf and ZSS exist.

  • @bloodstain369
    @bloodstain369 2 года назад

    he is definitey not top tier lmfao

  • @GGFlypower
    @GGFlypower 2 года назад

    Show the gameplay,not you face.