I felt so tricked when I realized every character was nerfed like crazy and moved in molasses LMAO. Had a blast as always and glad the positivity brought me a couple dubs
And I swear Nick sandbagged that last stock super hard on purpose too. I’m pretty sure he wanted a reason to turn on turbo ganon, and planned on making the swap at kazuya
I think Nick intentionally left in moves that were hard to use or that he didn't think EDM could use effectively. Like sure, he can ewgf but he isn't exactly getting insane follow ups. It's not like float where Peach really needs that for recovery and neutral. Hence why Steve lost Minecart rather than jab and up tilt.
EDM is fucking cracked. Man won with a nerfed Kazuya against a Ganon and then a roided up Ganon back to back, then almost beat the roided Ganon a second time. That said, Nick's creativity for trolling his friends is amazingly inspiring :D
Honestly, just improving Gannons air speed by 20% would alone probably make him mid tier or higher. His recovery, advantage, and disadvantage would suddenly be way better. Another neat buff would be making it so his side special doesn't put him into special fall and does his up-b's grab effect when in the air, then its a recovery tool as well as something he can freely use offstage. Lastly, increasing the shield stun and landing hitbox size of arial down special would give him a nice disadvantage option.
the reason his Kazuya won twice is because you literally did not nerf him at all laser can be strong, but it's a very small part of what makes him good. The fact is that he has way too many options. He has SO many moves. Input command throw, diagonal tilts, two down tilts for some reason (3 if you count the weird one where you press A as you come up from a crouch), crouch dash (and the A and B followups), a random reflector, TONS of shield break moves for NO reason, and the things you decided to nerf were laser and up b
I faced the King Of Skill a few days ago.... And i saw Nick keep up the pace.... When i got absolutely murdered, now i realise the huge gap beetween my smash level and yours, Vernias level, and Eevee level....
Keep practicing one character and get really good half the time it's not skill it's just you don't invest into one character so instead of being insane at one character your bad at 5
Honestly shortening a lot of the 'Glass Cannon' recoveries makes sense. They're supposed to be easy to kill. I'm more surprised we haven't got a Heavy with a good or great recovery.
Honestly, Ganon's one of my favorites to play as. I remember one game where DK used a fully charged Donkey Punch on my Ganon charging a Warlock Punch, Ganon's super armor tanked the hit and then the Warlock Punch took the match. There was also one time on quickplay where it was Hero/Ganon vs Hero/Bowser. 1v2, all on last stock, Hero and Bowser knock me off the stage, fully charging FS and I fire it when they jump after me to spike me. It was then I learned the sword swing animation of Ganon's FS spikes and took both of them down in one go.
No disrespect intended towards the editor as this is (still haven't finished watching the video lol) a fun video to watch, but I have a minor complaint. The easing in and out on all reaction and normal pictures make it feel weird (like compared to the previous videos, the piplup @ 1:45, the pooh reaction @ 1:48, the clueless @ 2:13, EDM's pfp @ 2:54, and etc...) There is an instance in the video where the reaction image pops up normally and that one didn't feel as bad as the others (the piplup @ 2:05.) There's also a instance where there's a normal picture appearance and the easing one right next to each other, @ 3:14. The first cat reaction picture appeared in the center with no easing, but the next one came out from the side easing into the frame, which makes it feel weird. imo, I think the easing is perfectly fine for the explanation segments (like @ 0:15), as it helps move from one point to the next smoothly, but for the normal gameplay segments (like @ 1:06), I believe that it should be "sudden" (no easing in from the sides but instead just pop in and out) for the reaction pics and stuff. Apologies if I overstepped my boundaries, but that's my current thoughts on the current editing style. Its very much still enjoyable and always a treat to watch, but that minor thing is the only thing that irks me a bit lol. tyvm for making another enjoyable video!
You're missing the point for the way they're edited in. Rather than compare how each appears with each other, compare how each appears in relation to what they're doing. When just talking or explaining they edit a slow pan in. When making a sudden sound it'll pop in. For dramatic effect it'll appear in the center.
You forget he wasnt really nerfed laser isnt too good in his kit it can be strong but most the time it's not His up b? It doesn't do anything to nerf that
A lot of the smash roster would be more balanced if they either, 1) Less sped. Too many characters, move way to fast. 2) Less launch. Too many characters either have too many moves that just slap, or virtually none. With a lower launch rate, almost everyone struggles to launch. Which allows for characters without many options, to actually grind opponents who DO have some good launch options. Or both even. I'm not saying every character should handle the same, but, the horizon of speeds and launch capability, just makes the game unsatisfying imo.
I felt so tricked when I realized every character was nerfed like crazy and moved in molasses LMAO. Had a blast as always and glad the positivity brought me a couple dubs
Hi EDM!
You were so kind you deserved the victory
Did you even get the original $100?
Sup feller
Why do you have to be such a nice guy all the time like whhjashdjdfgsd
If Ganon can't climb to the top, he'll drag everyone else down with him.
Crabs in a bucket
Sound like Ganon actually
Ganonside on last stock in a nutshell
Its called the side special
Except for kazuya
Kazuya: (Has EWGF, which is 97% of the reason why he’s even a Top Tier)
Nick: We removed laser
And I swear Nick sandbagged that last stock super hard on purpose too. I’m pretty sure he wanted a reason to turn on turbo ganon, and planned on making the swap at kazuya
Truly amazing
@@SydwasheretheIII I mean....people panic. Especially when there's a triple digit money amount on the line, and one command grab would cause death.
I think Nick intentionally left in moves that were hard to use or that he didn't think EDM could use effectively. Like sure, he can ewgf but he isn't exactly getting insane follow ups. It's not like float where Peach really needs that for recovery and neutral.
Hence why Steve lost Minecart rather than jab and up tilt.
Would've been funny if he lost to kazuya again only to realize that his lazer isn't the move that is broken.
"Determination, optimism, the power of positivity and Pac-man" truly the best sentence I've ever heard
He needed less positivity, more faith in the PAC GOD
pacman vs. nihilism
did someone say determination
Dionysus would have you believe that Pac Man is the crown jewel of human civilization
Determination optimism the power of positivity and Pac-Man-EDM 2023
Before I watched the video, i thought Ganondorf would receive several buffs, but nerfing the S-tiers is a ingenious idea
Nick when EDM decides to play A-tier characters instead:
@@footman77 :skull:
@@footman77just play giga ganon, he’s god tier
@@farewell418Until Kazuya Mishima Walks In The Room
A tier
An a applause for the editor for making that last fight feel increasingly tense
All Nick's idea that one, he really strikes with the guidance sometimes! 🙏
I can't believe how skilled TCNick3 is for this play. Beating every top tier with Ganon? That's crazy
With cheats
@@Sinislovesbillcypher. nah it was definitely a fair fight definitely no shenanigans going on here (I am lying)
@@Sinislovesbillcypher. Nah, TCNick3 would never do that, he's just more skilled than EDM
i really should stop reading comments before i finish the video
wait nevermind he lost 1’200
EDM so passionately holding to his beliefs in the face of bullshit has made me realize he is The Batman to Nick's Joker.
He even has the bone breaking fists
And we ain’t talkin Persona 5 💪
Dang, TOTK Ganon looks pretty OP.
and nerfed kazuya was able to beat him 😳
Actually, that’s a true statement, since all metal bladed weapon are nerfed in the game, just like the characters are in here.
@@jayde4872 - Hey, you're right... Past me was spitting facts. Whoops.
The final battle is... Pretty hard 🥵💦
EDM: “Do you have a body pillow”
Nick: *hesitation* “I plead the fifth”
Yeah I was like "wait a minute"
lol I have your pfp as my desktop background
(since 2 years)
XD
I mean, I have an unmarked body pillow because I'm big on hugs and sometimes stuffed animals are too small
@@SpathiCaptainFwiffo you are touched deprived
Bro had every possible advantage and still lost with Giga Ganon💀
Bro this mod is tc carried nicks crutch 💀
EDM is that one guy that would be slowly turned into a villain after years of being proved there’s no good in smash bros
Scariest villain arc
EDM is fucking cracked. Man won with a nerfed Kazuya against a Ganon and then a roided up Ganon back to back, then almost beat the roided Ganon a second time. That said, Nick's creativity for trolling his friends is amazingly inspiring :D
or Nick is just terrible at the Game losing with Turbo Mode Ganon
@@yabeiyabei all he had to do was mash lol
7:45 "I plead the fifth" I dont think you can escape the truth Nick
Firstly, that kick to hydrant combo got me far too hyped than i needed
Secondly, THAT LAST MATCH WAS TOO CLOSE AYO
Should have edited kazuya throwing ganon off that cliff twice
I cannot believe I didn't think of this 😭
@@TheFadedShade My disappointment is immeasurable, and the video is ruined.
Honestly, just improving Gannons air speed by 20% would alone probably make him mid tier or higher. His recovery, advantage, and disadvantage would suddenly be way better. Another neat buff would be making it so his side special doesn't put him into special fall and does his up-b's grab effect when in the air, then its a recovery tool as well as something he can freely use offstage. Lastly, increasing the shield stun and landing hitbox size of arial down special would give him a nice disadvantage option.
I find it funny that Nick really is going “Okay I can’t beat EDM regularly because he’s so good and sexy.. MODDER I COME TO BARGAIN-”
Modder: ok as long as I get paid
Doctor Stephen Strange and "Hellblazer" John Constantine action. 😁😁😂😂🤣🤣👏👏👏
TC Nick out here just slowly manipulating EDM into being evil
5:54
There is money on the line, and this man homie stocked. He has my respect.
5:04 "Editor stop him"
Editor proceeds to vanish him from this reality
I died so hard from laughter there xdddddd
Kazuya beating Ganondorf does make sense as that was the first thing they revealed Kazuya doing in his reveal trailer
Whoever the editor was props to you like holy shoot good job I loved this video
Bro EDM was tortured and he still homie stocked. Gotta be the main character
the reason his Kazuya won twice is because you literally did not nerf him at all
laser can be strong, but it's a very small part of what makes him good. The fact is that he has way too many options. He has SO many moves. Input command throw, diagonal tilts, two down tilts for some reason (3 if you count the weird one where you press A as you come up from a crouch), crouch dash (and the A and B followups), a random reflector, TONS of shield break moves for NO reason, and the things you decided to nerf were laser and up b
He was also slowed
@@IsThatKris Kazuya isn't supposed to be fast. You have to nerf his combos and kill power in order to nerf him.
At the very least all his moves should have been reduced in strength and kill power, and some of his other bs removed
5:25 My man over here channeling Frieza.
imagine having to nerf all those characters just to beat EDM /j amazing video as always!
Oh really who is the best character not accounting Steve?
You gotta do what you gotta do 🤷♂️
and he still loses
@@RinnyThePrincess he won the double or nothing?
no one is gonna comment how much of a homie that guy was ?
Nick been putting out some crazy intense content lately. from the raid boss mario party star exchange to this. crazy hype
I want to congrat Nick on now only having a 98.9% lose rate to EDM now. You did it bro!
Nick: nerfs everyone’s recovery
EDM: hmmmm I think I will throw half of my games to try and edge guard
Proof that Kazuya carries so hard that even nerfed he's top tier
Getting smash 4 bayo vibes
He's just too goated
If EDM knew the electric combos nick would be burnt toast with superheavy ganon
even nerfed + Ganon buffed btw
Oh please I'm only shocked Sephiroth isn't up there with his Up-tilt that covers half of FD
Well, when you don’t nerf the one move that is the primary reason he’s one of the best characters in the game, of course he’s still gonna be broken
EDM is a crazy good sport. So wholesome to see
8:02 Peach/Daisy players when they use any other character
"So we nerfed Kazuya's laser and up b"
Wait what?
the fact kazuya was almost able to win says a lot.
If nothing else, today we learned that EDM is a true bro
Loving these constant EDM collabs
Ganondorf became lore accurate now
(Edit) 53 likes didn't expect that
And Kazuya still washed him keeping it accurate
he canonically has float lol
I like that makes Kazuya stronger even in canon
7:40
Caught off guard
My goodness Faded your editing is incredible!
Thank you so much! ❤
7:30
What are you hiding, nick
8:22 He thought he could call Daidy baby girl and we wouldn't notice
Daidy?
@@TheWorldsLargestOven BFDI world’s largest oven?
Kindness is punished. I will never be nice ever. I have learned this from Mr TCNick
10:52 this match proves that kazuya is good, or Nick is bad.
He is summoning all Ganon mains!
‘No good deed ever goes unpunished.’
this is one of the most polished smash videos I've seen in a minute lmao. good stuff :>
Love those 3 seconds of diddy king we got
6:07 EDM channelled his inner King of Skill for that “WHAT?!”
This is why EDM has a wife
I don’t get it
Edm going super saiyan with that kazuya
10:03 LETS GOOOOOOO that was hype fellas
the last pacman KO dealt psychic damage
I faced the King Of Skill a few days ago.... And i saw Nick keep up the pace.... When i got absolutely murdered, now i realise the huge gap beetween my smash level and yours, Vernias level, and Eevee level....
Keep practicing one character and get really good half the time it's not skill it's just you don't invest into one character so instead of being insane at one character your bad at 5
@@zeke3620 I'm a main Ganon/Falcon, they are both the same character with two different playstile to me
Calamity Ganon theme at the end sending the shivers down my spine.
Bro definitely owed EDM a pity $100
BRO, THE OMNIMAN MEME IS A FUCKING MANDELLA EFFECT. EVERYONE LABELS IT AS "That's the neat PART", but it's ACTUALLY "That's the neat THING"
Lol
Nick when he's not treated like crap by his friends😳
true ganon mains force themselves so far down the tierlist that they loop back to the top
I’m a big fan of the editing. Great video TCNick :)
"Super Sonic speed!" (runs at a leisurely old man walk)
You gassed up Giga Ganon so hard just for him to get bodied LMAO Kazuya is REAL
I’m always ready to watch his videos
First Vernias, then Brent, now EDM. We are slowly driving the smashtubers to toxicity.
Honestly shortening a lot of the 'Glass Cannon' recoveries makes sense. They're supposed to be easy to kill. I'm more surprised we haven't got a Heavy with a good or great recovery.
So instead of making Ganon S-Tier you made everyone else Ganon-Tier.
Very nice editing at the end, with the percentages at the top
props to edm for beating giga ganon with kazuya
Bro Edm a real one for the homie stock and not chessing with snake that earns a sub from me
STAND BACK!
Kazuya the Goat I was rooting for EDM.
The editing is incredible
Insert joke about Ganon still being mid tier here.
If there were more usage of his aerial down B, then he'd finally be top tier.
Even Giga-Ganon it's just an average opponent against *Kazuya Mishima*
Even turbo ganon can't beat Kazuya
"Wtf he's crazy"
"No, Kazuya is just a dlc fighter."
EDM was definitely the protagonist of this video, no question
Honestly, Ganon's one of my favorites to play as. I remember one game where DK used a fully charged Donkey Punch on my Ganon charging a Warlock Punch, Ganon's super armor tanked the hit and then the Warlock Punch took the match. There was also one time on quickplay where it was Hero/Ganon vs Hero/Bowser. 1v2, all on last stock, Hero and Bowser knock me off the stage, fully charging FS and I fire it when they jump after me to spike me. It was then I learned the sword swing animation of Ganon's FS spikes and took both of them down in one go.
“No way” -EDM
4:35 SPANISH YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO???!!!
7:40, that silence was loud
13:07 SCHOOL-
Hey man atleast there wasn't any toxicity in the entire video and props to edm for being so optimistic
16:35 So, uh… Double or SINGLE, then? Instead of double or nothing? Not exactly a great gamble to offer…
No disrespect intended towards the editor as this is (still haven't finished watching the video lol) a fun video to watch, but I have a minor complaint.
The easing in and out on all reaction and normal pictures make it feel weird (like compared to the previous videos, the piplup @ 1:45, the pooh reaction @ 1:48, the clueless @ 2:13, EDM's pfp @ 2:54, and etc...)
There is an instance in the video where the reaction image pops up normally and that one didn't feel as bad as the others (the piplup @ 2:05.) There's also a instance where there's a normal picture appearance and the easing one right next to each other, @ 3:14. The first cat reaction picture appeared in the center with no easing, but the next one came out from the side easing into the frame, which makes it feel weird.
imo, I think the easing is perfectly fine for the explanation segments (like @ 0:15), as it helps move from one point to the next smoothly, but for the normal gameplay segments (like @ 1:06), I believe that it should be "sudden" (no easing in from the sides but instead just pop in and out) for the reaction pics and stuff.
Apologies if I overstepped my boundaries, but that's my current thoughts on the current editing style. Its very much still enjoyable and always a treat to watch, but that minor thing is the only thing that irks me a bit lol. tyvm for making another enjoyable video!
You're missing the point for the way they're edited in. Rather than compare how each appears with each other, compare how each appears in relation to what they're doing. When just talking or explaining they edit a slow pan in. When making a sudden sound it'll pop in. For dramatic effect it'll appear in the center.
The fact Nerfed Kazuya was able to defeat giga Ganon TWICE is insane
You forget he wasnt really nerfed laser isnt too good in his kit it can be strong but most the time it's not
His up b? It doesn't do anything to nerf that
EDM simply caught Nick mid-
*suavemente*
When we needed him the most, he came back
Edm is way too kind
11:08 TCNICK3 YOU LOSE WITH TURBO MODE BRUUUUUUUUUUUUH
11:07 he didn’t nerf Kazuya enough
Kazuya is the most broken character
A lot of the smash roster would be more balanced if they either, 1) Less sped. Too many characters, move way to fast. 2) Less launch. Too many characters either have too many moves that just slap, or virtually none. With a lower launch rate, almost everyone struggles to launch. Which allows for characters without many options, to actually grind opponents who DO have some good launch options.
Or both even. I'm not saying every character should handle the same, but, the horizon of speeds and launch capability, just makes the game unsatisfying imo.
@3:15 😂
5:22 that kick started a back story
0:40 nah git got the P-Rank
The sounds edited in on the big hits *chefs kiss*
0:18 wait so how is it? Everyone bitching about Sonic in Smash bros, but he's on S tier?
They're not bitching cuz he's low tier, they're bitching cuz 99% of his moves are just spindash lol.
They bitching because he is absolutely broken
And a bastard vharacter
@@cbfranco3307exactly and he is annoying
Why is nicks editing so good for no reason every single time
Because his editor is Ema Skye duh
"It's not about winning, it's about making everyone else loose"
6:07 the dread in his voice was immeasurable