My Daniel Defense M4V7P
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- A quick look at the way I have my factory Daniel Defense pistol set up. Added parts:
SBA3 Brace
Lunar Concepts Split fix
Law Tactical Folding Adaptor
Radian Talon Safety Selector
Geissele SD-C trigger
Geissele Maritime Bolt Catch
BCM Angled grip
Magpul QD adaptor
Surefire warcomp
Daniel defense fixed irons
Radian Raptor SD Charging Handle
Aimpoint H-2
Larue Tactical QD Mount for aimpoint
Radian Enhanced Bolt Carrier Group
Kenetic Development Group QD accessory
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The QD point on the front can not be used without the MFR™ RAIL (M-LOK®) QD SLING MOUNT, which is installed on the rear part of the rail. The one on the rear has to be aligned before using though. I did the nut holding it loose, inserted the sling mount and then tightened the nut. Works fine.
I have the V7 rifle and I love it, thank you for pointing out the QD issue the responses helped a lot. I truly wish the V7P used the 11.5” barrel like the V7S. You have yours accessorized nicely, look forward to future videos.
KARASU357 thanks bud! I felt the same way about the barrel. I actually ended up buying a 12.5 BCM. Video coming soon.
Blue Gunner that is the length I have truly wanted. I almost bought the BCM RECCE 12 SBR. When DD offered their 12.5” last month as one of their exclusive uppers I was tempted to make the purchase but I passed as it was not a price I was willing to pay. As much as I love my DD, I choose BCM for my AR Pistol years ago. I look forward to your BCM video.
@@bluegunner4719 you need at least 14 inch barrel for 5.56, 300 blackout is best for shorter barrels
@@gummybear41283 You are so totally wrong on this one bud. Alot of factors determine which barrel length is appropriately suited. 10.3 has it's place and has been effective overseas for a long time now.
Windham sells an 11.5" Pistol. You have to order through a dealer, though, because they don't sell online. There is a long wait time, too, estimated 120 days.
I have the same one. And my QD points are fine. Ran it hard with a sling last week and no issues.
I initially had the same issue on my DD with the QD adapter...if you loosen the adapter, then plug in your QD and tighten the screw it will work, its just an alignment issue....
I put the same exact grip On my A.R. pistol because ATF says that you can’t put perpendicular grip on the forearm. As you can see your grip is not perpendicular to the barrel therefore your grip is legal. By the way I’ve been enjoying your video
gun store selling this exact rifle told me absolutely no vertical grips allowed for the pistol AR.
Also the 26 inches is measure when the adjustable brace if fully collapsed and if there’s a folder then when the brace is folded. It’s definitely under 26 otherwise it’s no longer a pistol. Less than 16 in barrel, no stock, and less than 26 in its most compact form is a pistol and no fore grip. Change it to be over 26 then it’s not a pistol but also not an nfa item and you can have a fore grip.
I found loosening the QD slots, pressing your QD sling in, then tightening it down works. Mine did thr same thing at first.
I use a Vickers Blue Force sling..it works..don't know if you open to something different
Solid move to go with the "angled" BCM vertical grip. I have three RC2s in NFA jail. Figured they will be gone in 2021...
Out here playing chess with the NFA game haha smart call on the RC2 stockpile. The future is bleak for 2a sadly
I had the same problem with my standard M4V7 and the QD mount. I was able to install it by clipping my sling into the mount plate before installing it so it lined up properly on the rail while installing (basically using the attachment as a guide), then removing sling to tighten the mount plate down in the rail. Without doing that, it wouldn't line up exactly.
David Achenbach thanks for the tip!
David Achenbach I did the same, only tightened my QD with the sling in it to maintain the alignment.
Do you have to buy a separate part to use the QD points on the rail?
@@bryanduchane2371 no. That one little extra piece you see is for QD. You move that little piece to the hole you want to use as qd.
Thanks for the split fix!! Just ordered one.
Glad I could introduce you! I'm sure you'll be happy with it
Same here, love it, better quality than the stock one as well
I've heard these can make the "brace" illegal...any thoughts on this?I want one!
Jonesy 22 TBH...I still haven’t put mine on. It is still in the wrapper 🤣
@@tmo8320 theres a couple videos on RUclips, but I couldnt find it for me so far...I'm sure itll be depending on the cop and da feels that day unfortunately
This weapon is sexy. I built mine very similar to yours minus the folding stock, and bcg (I have a geissele REBCG). 👍🤟🖖 thanks for sharing
the QD mount on the end of the raul is where its supposed to go. if you want to move your sling you have to unscrew that attachment on the rear of the rail and place it over the Qd hole you want. Line up the mlock on it, tighten it down and your qd mount will fit.
Thanks! How strange that they didn’t just make all the QD points usable without an extra part
@bluegunner4719 that's because the rail is aluminum and you don't want the male end of the QD point (steel) inserted into the female end of the QD point (aluminum). It will wear out over time
You should double check your length of pull. Sba3 plus law folder normally is around 14 inches. Sb sells a length of pull limiter if it’s an issue.
Just ordered a v7 will definitely put this upper on it in the future
atf has changed their ruled on pistols with a folding brace. they measure it with the brace folded. might want to take that vert grip off. just a heads up.
I posted this video around the time that ruling went out. It's technically an angled grip, not a vertical grip, but I'll think about swapping it out anyway. thanks for watching!
That BCM grip is angled so it's all good
No one gives a shit what the atf thinks
@@vinnier6 you will when they show up to your house with a warrant.
I own a DD rifle as well and have the same issue in regards to the QD slots...
Hunter Jackson you guys need a QD adapter. The adapter can be moved but only the slot that has the one included QD mount works. You can order more from DD. I have 3 and one of my QD adapters has a problem.
The QD on the front part of the rail doesn't work without mods due to the barrel thickness does to allow the male QD part to go in deep enough for a proper locking.
It's not barrel thickness that's the issue, they don't want you inserting steel into aluminum. The steel QD will wear out the aluminum rail so you need to move the provided steel MLOK attachment to the desired area before hooking up any QD attachments
Assuming this rig does not have the adjustable gas block; any issues running suppressed?
If I'm not mistaken, the ATF changed the 26" rule to more than 26" with the brace in it's shortest position. I live in NY and am trying to navigate this AR pistol deal for my first build. It feels like a second full time job.
flyinb45 you’re correct. I recorded this video around the time that ruling was coming out. However, the grip I was using at that time was still not totally vertical. So i was probably covered
@@bluegunner4719 hope you didn't take it as a criticism. I've enjoyed the vid along with the MK18 Mod 2, as someone named it in the comments lol.
flyinb45 not at all. I appreciate all feedback and questions. Thanks for watching friend! I should probably rename the other video
@@bluegunner4719 why bother? You bought an MK18 from DD and modded it to your liking. Not your fault that DD marketed a rifle to the general public under the same designation the military uses. Let them get their history on AHC.
Awesome weapon
Question on the Larue Tactical Mount. You stated that you have the full cowitness model, which I assume is the LT751. You commented that you wish you would have gone with the lower 1/3 cowitness, which is the LT660HK, and according to Larue Tactical's website, sits lower than the LT751. The LT660 mount is the tallest mount, and allows 1/3 cowitness with the iron sights. Did you mean that you would have preferred the taller mount (LT660)? Also, did you compare the Aimpoint H-2 with the Trijicon MRO? Just curious.
Hello. Very informative and excellent video!!! Can you tell me how the Radian Raptor BCG would go with a 300 blackout and what is your thought on a Ni Boron BCG?? Thank you an thank you for your timely response
Nice set up man. I just got a DDM4V7 pistol with the law tactical folder. It is my first ar pistol and i like it a lot. How dow you like that geissele catch? I put a geissele h2 buffer with super 42 spring, geissele airbourn charging handle, geissele ssa trigger ,geissele safety, magpul mbus back ups, and a trijicon mro ( with scalarworks 1.57 mount. The ambi safety is weird cause both sides are same size. Needs to be a short and a regular length. The DDh buffer works fine but the Geissele H2 buffer and spring will make a difference in felt recoil, reduces the twang sound , and makes it a little smoother cycling. It isn t that expensive ( about 100 bucks or so ) and well worth it. Mine was manufactured 4/20/22 so maybe they fixed the qd issues. Mine came with that law tactical folder and the brace that they use. I really like the brace u installed and want to do the same. How hard is it to change? What do i have to replace? I do not like the fixed irons because it clutters the window so i use the magpul flip up mbus sights. I also like the scalarworks 1.57 ( 1/3rd ) mount. Nice set up man and you have chosen some great upgrades
Well, that sucks about the QD mount, especially if you're going to use a convertible sling that runs either 2 point or 1 point. Just got a DDM4 V7 16" and have a Magpul convertible sling coming in a few days. So based on what I'm getting here, I'm guessing I'll have to get more Magpul parts to use it.
The rail itself is to thin and barrel gets in the way of the rear QD Mount. I think those are just cosmetic
Remove that shim mount and place it on one of the forward holes and tighten it down.
The geiselle charging handle does a better job of blocking suppressed gases according to others RUclips...check it out.
Try the magpul mlok qd sling mount...I think it will solve your sling mount
For all the upgrades you did you probably could’ve just got a Radian Model 1 for the same price
I am about to purchase this rifle, i have one question. I thought u couldn’t run those kind off grips? Any inputs? Thanks
How you like it so far would you buy again if you have too
I got a ddm4v7p and was going to use your great video to start upgrading it. I was going to get the Geissele SD-C trigger but the website says that using it on an ar pistol isn't supported and would void the warranty. Is there anything compatibility wise that makes this risky?
Thurston Howell III no risk at all. I went and checked and I think you mistook them. They say it’s not compatible with “pistol caliber carbines.” No mention about AR pistols in rifle calibers
@@bluegunner4719 oops you are correct...my bad! thanks for the response!
mon armurier en France m'a dit que les canons sur le DD M4 V7S tiennent maximum 1000 coups, qu'en pense tu ?
My V7 pro has the same problem with the front qd sling points. WTH ??
Is the buffer tube compatible with the Daniel defense colapsable stock if you wanted to apply for a tax stamp and convert to a SBR?
Irving Lopez no I’m afraid you’d have to switch out for a carbine buffer tube. The sba3 uses a pistol buffer tube which is spec’d differently
Thanks for the quick reply.. i might just do that... one way to have a pistol that I can shoot while I wait the 6 months for the stamp. Thank you!
@@IrvingMagik it is a milspec buffer tube yes you can use a milspec size and not change it
@@bluegunner4719 that would be incorrect but good video
Sweet... thanks for the update. Guess I’m gonna find out soon. Just ordered mine.
On my M4V7P I noticed that it’s difficult to make sure the QD attachment point is lined up exactly with the hole and if it’s not, your QD won’t lock in. I found it best to make sure it’s loose, attach your QD, then screw it down tight after it’s attached and lined up correctly.
Thanks for the tip!
The ‘SD’ trigger “I BELIEVE”? NEED to KNOW what YOUR ‘pistol’, rifle...FIREARM has me thinks!
it IS THE SD-C trigger from Geissele
Angled grips are 👍 vertical grips are 👎so on a pistol you just need something angled nothing straight up and down.
IDK why but im bothered at how gently you handle these tools lol
Looks like a bcm vrit grip..I don't know
Need to know quick fast, if you please, because am about to order either the DDM4 V7 P not folder or the DDM4 V7 P Law Folder, and the answer to this question will help me choose: What is your total length butt to tip of flash hider with it unfolded an the SBA3 fully collapsed?
I want to compare that to the total length of the non-folder with the factory SBA2 fully collapsed. Thanks.
Sorry to say I sold this a few months ago to make room for a new AR pistol. I don’t have the measurements saved. Good luck on your purchase though!
Anyone else know?
@@bluegunner4719 Thanks.
How much is that Kinetic qd?
You definitely don’t want a bad lever...but I will say once you go 45 degree selector you will wonder why you didn’t sooner
I'll never understand why people pay Daniel defense money and then change out all the DD parts....
Cause truth be told. Rifles great, furniture is ugly af. But that’s subjective 🤷🏽♂️
Yeah I’m not taking the chance of putting a grip on it and not knowing if it’s legal or not. I’m just gonna pay $200 then form 1 it. Wait 30 to 45 days get a tax stamp put an actual stock on it and a grip
What is the difference between the DDM4 and your Mk18?
Rail type -- 18 is the old school RIS type and the ddm4 is MLOK
When you switched to the SBA3, you had to change the buffer tube (from AR pistol tube to milspec carbine extension tube which is included with the SBA3). Did you also have to change the buffer spring? Was there anything else you had to change or alter for the SBA3 brace to be added? Have you had any reliability issues when shooting?
do you like this better than the MK18 and whats the best Geissele trigger you've tried?? I want to buy 1 Daniel Defense rifle, it's all I can afford right now. Which would you recommend??
If you want an AR pistol, I’d say go with this one. It will be lighter and will be the same as the MK18 where it counts.
@@bluegunner4719 I thought you like your AK pistol the best, I can go with AK or AR, which is funner to shoot and cooler?
@@gummybear41283the RDAK pistol is definitely my favorite. Both to shoot and just in general. I just thought you meant between the MK18 an V7P
@@bluegunner4719 I was gonna go DD but I've discovered Triarc Systems AR's, I like their stuff. But ya I like Rifle Dynamics AK's too. Did you get the Garand Thumb model?
@@gummybear41283 hope you went with DD and not Triarc.
Nice looking pistol. But, what perturbs me is for such an expensive gun, Daniel Defense used a Cero forged lower and and Anchor Harvey upper.
Both are good forging but, my OCD and management/Production skills would not let that fly. Should have used the same forgings or a lower that is not stamped. Cero is the only company I know of that stamps their lowers at the forge. Heck Ruger is a $600 AR and it uses a matched pair of Cero receivers! Apparently, DD is using the same product for a much higher price to the customer.
For a company that I think is using Product Quality Leadership and Maximum Current Profit in their marketing and business plan I would have paid more attention to detail on their end product.
Honestly, DD is overpriced as fuck compared to AR offerings today, only reason I bought this pistol is because a gun shop that's relatively close to me that has a lot of pistols had it for dumb cheap compared to any prices I've seen so I got it because I love DD's barrels and like the new mlok handguard, the bcg is milspec but they do it just as good if not better than anyone else out there, all in all I still think I paid a lot for my pistol at 1200.00, hahaha.
Now it's 2021, it has to be 26 in measured from the back of the buffer tube with the arm brace removed to the end of the threading of the barrel not including the muzzle device, AND not including the law tactical folder. If you were to remove the law tactical folder and measure from the back of the buffer tube to the end of the threading of the barrel, that is definitely not 26 in. I think you would have to put in a barrel longer than 12.5.
So I'm guessing you'd comply then? Thanks for letting everyone know you're a fudd.
Could use your help. V7 pistol in 5.56 or mk18 pistol?
They're pretty similar. Comes down to whether you want a lighter weapon. The V7 mlok handguard is noticeably lighter than the RISII on the MK18. However, the RIS II is a classic look and I've heard a lot of praise about its durability. Plus its neat to have the "mk18" symbol on your upper. Cant really say theres much more difference than that
Buy the MK 18. Even if you wan't the V7 handgaurd, the RISII is hard to find by itself and highly desirable to people wanting to build a parts correct MK 18 Mod 1 clone build which to them you can sell, buy the V7 handguard from DD and have $200 left over for ammo all while really making the clone builders day.
only ANGLED fore grips are allowed on a PISTOL
Paul Berman refer to 6:40 in my video. I discuss how as long as your pistol is 26 inches in total length (measured from the end of your buffer tube I believe. Then you may have a vertical grip on a pistol. But my grip here was actually angled so it’s not technically 100% vertical anyway
Wrong. 26" or over is all good. Heck with that vertical grip, even if your rifle was less than 26" it would still be good. ATF definition requires a 90 degree from barrel to magwell, and this grip is about 86 degrees.
my friend this gun is legal for california i guess that you are in california too due that you are talking about the buttstock
That’s not a vertical grip
So is it like mandatory when you buy a Daniel defense rifle, to start a RUclips channel? 😂
Don't run the BAD lever with that flat faced trigger. You won't have enough space and it gets annoying, at least it did for me. Just go curved bow if you want a BAD lever type of device.
And for goodness sake man just give the 45 degree throw a try on that Radian Talon safety!! you will like it a whole lot more since it is easier to actuate and can be done with one hand easier than having to go full 90.
That’s an SBR lol
I think so, too. And the attitude, "If ___ comes calling and it's a problem, I'll deal with that then," is a very dangerous attitude to have.
Yeah def don’t get a bad lever
Why buy a $2,000 gun if you are going to gut it 😂mind as well buy a ruger and then buy all your extra parts.
Because I can mostly. But I kept some of the essential components installed (barrel, receivers, rail). And it’s not like I threw out the DD stuff. I still have factory parts that I can use as quality back ups while I experiment with new gear.