Marvel vs Capcom Infinite - What Happened? ft. Maximilian
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Capcom should just make capcom vs capcom and dip into all their ips.
They have enough, they really don't need Marvel
Oh man don't put that idea in my head :(
Although they'll still probably act like Breath of Fire never existed...
Konami vs. Capcom! Just take my money!
That just might be Capcom's "redemption piece" by creating a game that will rival Nintendo's Super Smash Brothers Ultimate.
It should use just about every character in the Capcom universe that can be a fighter, from the classics (Street Fighter, Darkstalkers, Rival Schools) to the most recent (Devil May Cry, Dead Rising, Resident Evil).
The ball's in Capcom's court, let's hope they pick it up.
I'd like to see Capcom take their older ips that havent had games in a long time like Rival Schools or Darkstalkers or Powerstone and throw them at each other, just as a way to revisit and remind people where these Anime School kids and overly sexualized monsters are from.
then have that lead into a new vs series with someone not owned by Disney, like Bandai/Namco, ArcSys, or DC(Ryu and Flash vs Dante and Batman? I'd buy it)
> What happened with MvCI?
> Thumbnail is Chun-Li face
> Video is over
That's all we needed to hear
Well they could add a still jpeg with the text "NO XMEN"
The face isn't that ba-
(Mediocre story/Overused dub step music/bad hypercombo animation/ no xmen)
I see why this game suck
Dante looks even worst imo
Chun-Li looks like a porcelaine doll sure but Dante looks like he could be next to DMC3 Dante on a "before after meth'" poster
@@Igneeka . And Chun Li's face was fixed.
Wolverine: How could they cut me from MvC? I'm one of Marvel's biggest icons!
Mega Man: Don't worry, you get used to it.
But Mega Man 11's a thing.
@@orientallegendcomics1316 I know. I was just joking about MvC3 not including Megaman. For what it's worth, I believe that Mega Man is Capcom's most recognizable character and their mascot. But I was just looking back on the dark age of Capcom
@yourFBIagent They never hated Mega Man. That's just some stupid rumor that some virgin on the internet made up. When Inafune left, they had no IDEA how to make a Mega Man game. They wanted to please fans but without someone to guide them, they were forced to cancel all the upcoming games.
tbh megaman and megaman X is quite different
@@orientallegendcomics1316 why did you have to specify that the person who made the rumor was a virgin
Broly: "Here's a present for you! BWAHAHAHAHA!!"
(Throws a bouquet of roses on MVCI's grave.)
MEMORIAL FINISH!
Was that a shoyomo reference?
@@chaotixninja5 Eyep 😉
Hold on, I've seen that before...
_RUclips flashback starts_
So a happy birthday is when you kill two team members...a merry Christmas is when you kill the whole team...then what’s the term for killing an entire roster? Happy rapture?
One thing I'd like add: In a podcast with MvCI developer, Marvel were apparently being so petty and overcontrolling that in all the marketing (Trailers and Gameplay), a sort of mandate was placed that meant only Marvel heroes could be shown winning against Capcom characters.
It's kinda funny how it backfired, for me at least all the Marvel heroes in the MvC3 trailer looked like a bunch of villainous bullies ganging up on the poor Capcom characters who were actually trying to help each other. Probably not the image Marvel had in mind.
not petty enough, RIP daredevil
I wouldn't be surprised if that's true. I just wish we had more info because some of the descisions are just baffling. It makes me think that the game exists purely for business reasons, and was never meant to actually be enjoyable, yet the devs tried their hardest despite what was happening up the ladder.
@@joe2501echo Yeah, it really breaks my heart. You can tell that the people behind the game mechanics aspect of MvCI had tons of passion, talent and creativity, and only to be muddied by weak presentation, a lacking character roster and a story mode that either should've been better or could've been cut out altogether to focus its resources elsewhere.
Which podcast???
"If there's ever an MvC4, I'll destroy you there too, Wade" - She-Hulk, Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (2011)
It's why they called it "Infinite."
Remember when She-Hulk was famous fourth wall breaker?
Me neither
@@vintheguy broke it all the time, was never recognized for it :|
@@tjknight Joker was doing it before both of them.
@@nurse425 And I love when they play on that. Remember those times when they tried to make him sane and he was actually worse? Maybe it's because he's already sane, super sane in fact and aware he's a comic book character. That's why he kills, cause he technically hasn't killed anyone.
To be honest, Max does look like that guy from Nickelback
Fair enough.
@gokusondbz I think you are referring to Nickelback Guy
Yeah. Just "Look at this photograph" XD
@@MANOFGOD9000 LOLOLOL! I need to cover Photograph on my guitar. I love Nickelback! #ChadKroeger
Look at his photograph.
Every time you do it'll make ya' laugh.
Capcom: “That was never part of our deal!”
Disney: “I have altered the deal, pray I don’t alter it ant further”.
lol you said ant
I understood that reference.
Disney: Aaaaaand 500. Mickey, show them what they've won.
Mickey: HOT DOG!!! *Whips out Kingdom Key D*
*RECONNECT KINGDOM HEARTS*
@@davebob4973 they did.... intentionally!
This deal is getting worse all the time
MvCI: (cut half the roster)
Smash Ultimtae: "Everyone is here!"
@@ghost245353 Seriously, this game got absolutely murdered by 3 other games:
Smash Ultimate was literally bringing EVERYONE from their previous games back and topped off by Joker being DLC later down the line (also Banjo-Kazooie, but MvCI is literally nonexistent at that point anyways).
BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle is a crossover between FOUR different IPs, two which are niche but still fan-favorite fighters (BlazBlue and Under Night), one of which is/was popular at its prime (Persona 4), and one which was probably the most well-known web-series, especially in Japan (RWBY) and has yet to be represented in a 2D style. They've also expanded their roster immensely and recently have added 3 more series to the mix.
Dragonball FighterZ: I mean... they already talked about it enough in the video... But they also added a few more characters since launch as well, including Broly, Cooler, and... Videl?
@@Gamesmarts194 I want to play as Bulma.
Gamesmarts194 Exactly
@@Gamesmarts194 except blaze blue cross tag battle took a Paige from mvci where half of the roster is locked behind a pay wall seriously 20 characters and counting for cross tag battle are dlc including main characters like ruby and teddy that's bs
@@Cartoonguy133 musta got mixed up with someone else I still think it's bs
UMvC3 Iron Man - Target Aquired!!
PROOOTOOOON CANOOOOOOOON!!!!!
MvCI Iron Man - Proton....canon...
Mvc3 ghost Rider: LOOK INTO MY EYES *camera zooms into his eyes and is engulfed in flames*
MvcI ghost Rider: look into my eyes
Camera: yeah we're just gonna sit in his face for 3 seconds
BURN TO CINDERS CHAOTIC FLAME
B-Burn to cinders...*Wheeze, cough cough* Chaotic flame...
I would personally say (U)MvC3 had some of the best voice acting I've heard in a long time, especially Taskmaster's voice, it's somehow a perfect fit! But now Tasky is some Edgy McEdgerson who sounds like Batman
you know what REALLY sucks: both pf those iron man are voiced by the same exact guy, eric loomis.
Meanwhile, Kyle Herbert was earning that paycheck as Ryu. Lmao.
I feel like nobody talks about how the music in this game is dogshit. Almost everything is just "generic action music". My favourite example is comparing Hawkeye's MVCI theme to his UMVC3 theme
They used a marvel approved composer, if I recall correctly.
Oh no, we talk about it. That was like one of the things that was brought up alot.
Man everything about this game was Generic :l
@@SubSonicCub gameplay was fun
Backlog Buddies and Game Highlighter ehh I likes Ultimate better felt like a huge downgrade
Capcom should have thrown Marvel under the bus. Because it was *mostly* Marvel's fault.
In fact, Disney as a whole is terrible in everything when it comes to games, as CEO Bob Iger previously stated.
they probably couldn't because of nda's and stuff like that. Otherwise I'm sure they would've
@Steve Curosant Wow, Someone who has no real argument because someone dissed your shit, how original
@@valletas Jump vs Capcom would be bitchin' af!
@Steve Curosant Wow you waited two whole weeks just to reply to someone again, to make sure he forgot about you. What a coward
They were partnering with Marvel at the time though. They couldn't.
Marvel betrays Capcom in this deal and makes everything sad.
Fuck Marvel, we need Capcom vs SNK3, Capcom vs Arc System or Capcom All stars
"Marvel betrays Capcom" especially on having their own agenda.
Sony on Spiderman: first time?
Disney the one who blame not marvel nor capcom
@@genus5987 Marvel was a Disney property for years. Where've you been?
@@viperakmal i mean the TASM series are terrible but the spiderman games are amazing
Max: "Hello Matthew"
Matt: "Stop calling me that"
Why is the delivery on that line so good
Hah. Owned.
@@queephmaster You okay?
That "Hello, Matthew." was an attempt at seduction and you cannot convince me otherwise.
yeah they say that hahaha
5:40 hurt me in so many ways.
Also I love how Marvel didn't wanna use Deadpool in MVC3 cause they didn't have any plans for him but he'd later become a box office hit and a cult icon.
True and he’s now beloved by everyone even those that would never shop at a Hot Topic or a FYE (I been a fan of him before the movies)
Honestly, this whole game just feels like an advertisement for the MCU movies. And that's just plain sad...
I know. Like, if you look at the marvel roster, you can easily see that there was a bias towards the MCU. All of the marvel characters in this game mostly consisted of those seen in the MCU. The only two marvel characters in the game that have yet to be in the MCU are Ghost Rider and Nova. Sucks we couldn’t get more underused ones like Squirrel Girl or some X men
And the first two MVC games gave preference to the X men and they were the ones given more attention. But to be honest, even if it was a MCU adversitement, they had no excuse to make it bad. MCU could had given them still posibilities and from present or future movies they had posibilities like Loki, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Yondu, Ego, Hela, and many other ones.
But they lacked potential to make things right....this is not the first game but a fourth one in a crossover, they had no excuse to be so incompetent.
Yes that's what it seems like marvel is today. Just MCU everything like it didn't exist before Disney bought it or even before the MCU was even thought of. Lol it really is sad.
hmm ues because the other Marveknfighting games was advertisement of the xmen animated series learn the obvious.
That's all this shit is anymore
They literally changed the model for Peter Parker in Insomniacs Spider Man game like a year after it was out to look more like Tom Holland.
“Fistcuffin’”
Gah! I’ve been hit by the feelsbad bullet!
? What do you mean?
@@Princeomishore you clearly forgot the cookies
*[Groose theme plays over comments]*
Rip Fisticuffs
The ride may be over, but the memories will last
Max Dood is so cool! This was a great team up! EXCELSIOR!
The saddest part is, if they just waited a little while longer, when Marvel would basically have everything for the newer games... MVC Infinite could've had a really cool storyline involving X-Men characters and MCU characters side by side just matter of fact
Don't doubt it was actually Marvel's plan to release it before the acquisition of Fox as yet another one of their unethical predatory business practices to devaluate the XMen and F4 brands, as they had already done with the comics for example, their mistake was understimating FG fans as being as dumb and complacient as MCU fans
@@pats3212 That's a lot of companies and even more if you think outside of the box. There are enough rich and powerful people that think too lowly of anyone that doesn't have as much money as them and thus, can be manipulated. Especially that they continue to act like they are even Gods when they are just as irresponsible and incompetent in some aspects. They just have a lot of money and power they hide behind. People like that shouldn't even be running the show if they have no respect for life.
I don't know. You're right the roster variety might have improved, but the budget, marketing decisions, and disney complicating production would have still been present
In case you forgot to calculate, the company still have to pay their employees and software license if they wait/delay the game. Imagine your money keep flying out of your pocket while you're waiting for the "right time"
Xmen are dog poop
That bs functions statement still makes me mad. I feel like my intelligence is being insulted. I dont pick magneto because of his move set, I pick magneto because he's fricken magneto
It doesn’t even take half a brain cell well versed in pro fighting game knowledge to see that statement has more holes than I fine swiss cheese
That, and more casual players of the game don't pick characters with stuff like this in mind. You think my X-23, Ghost Rider, Wesker team was picked because I studied their move sets and how their assists function in the team for each character? Nope. X-23 is hot, Ghost Rider is badass and one of my favorite comic book characters, and Wesker is one of my favorite villains in all of video games. It was just happenstance that X-23 is super aggressive, Ghost Rider had cool attacks and crazy resets, and Wesker on anchor was one of the most terrifying comeback characters in the game.
@@metalfreekz13 I always had 3 teams set up for MvC3. My Capcom team which was my RE team. RE is my favorite franchise. Marvel was, Deadpool, Spidey, and Captian Punisher. And team 3 was a mixed bag. I had Deadpool, Dante, before Ultimate, it was Spencer. After Ultimate, I switched Chris out for Nemesis, and I switched Spencer out for Frank West. All because of these being my favs. Not there move sets.
Tenchu fatal shadows had a similar situation... "Hey, you like rikimaru because he is strong and has a sword imstead of 2 daggers right? Sure... Have this cute girl who is strong and has a sword instead"
And thats how they made a character everyone seems to hate but is still my favorite character in tenchu
In business you can’t throw your partners under the bus, so this kind of rationalization was his only choice.
MVCI: I need a drink.
Mk: Armageddon: I got you bro.
SSB Brawl: I'm sorry, man.
SFxT: thanks for joining us.
KOF12: We really appreciate it.
HOW
HOW WE'D COME THIS FAR
WHAT DID WE DO WRONG?
Ravonna El competitively?
Brawl isn’t even bad!
Brawl wasn't a bad game though.
ALongLeggedPissedOffPuertoRican I wouldn’t say better game due to hitstun in brawl being ludicrously low. Leading to the game’s competitive meta not being really combo based but whoever can throw out super safe fast moves the most/if you can chain grab. And atleast melee competitively is made much more to be competitive, the skill ceiling is very very very high compared to brawls very small barrier to entry.
The most depressing thing about this is that Capcom and Marvel would prefer to let that ship sink instead of trying to fix it and relaunch the brand in full force.
It's hard to fix a ship that wasn't built properly from the start. MvCI wouldn't of bombed if Marvel allowed Capcom to use non-MCU characters.
not everyone can pull off a ff14, especially with fucking disney watching.
Ligtning Dog do you even know the MCU is One of the biggest success in the movies industry? The problem wasn't MCU, the awful selection of characters was, nova and ghost rider aren't even part of MCU! Stop spreding bullshit.
@@eldandy1450 it wasn't the MCU's fault. It was MARVEL's fault.
@@eldandy1450 Richard Rider (Nova in MvC:I) hasn't appeared in the MCU yet but the Nova Corps were in Guardians of the Galaxy. Johnny Blaze (Ghost Rider in MvC:I) HAS made his appearance in the MCU in Agents of Shield, though they put more focus in Roberto "Robbie" Reyes. Overall, while Nova hasn't made his offical appearance and Johnny Blaze has only made a minor appearance, their presences are still in the MCU, making it resonable to translate that over to MvC:I.
Also, they had their previous models from Ultimate MvC and probably just ported them over without Marvel/Disney being a b*tch about it.
Everyone always forgets that they screwed over the iconic music from previous titles with not only the awful remixes of the Capcom side, but outright replacing the Marvel themes with generic orchestral scores. Also, for you collectors out there, never forget the "Infinity Eggs."
The most repeated comment so far that ive seen- and every time its brought up the person doing so felt the need to winge about nobody talking about it. Nobody, huh? 🤣
@Otarr incorrect, mvc2 had the PERFECT music for that game. It fits the game perfectly
@Otarr that's the opposite,it's fits perfectly
Personally, I prefer the Marvel vs. Street Fighter music.
@Otarr Polarizing as that Game's OST was, it had style, MvC Infinite lacked its own style
So it's like 70% Disney Fault's and 30% Capcom.
It'd be more Capcom's fault but they cheaped out on that, too.
Just like the story mode!!
@@GiordanDiodato How is it Fox's fault? They literally were out of the negotiations
Classic disney. Ruining everything they touch
"Nobody is better at taking their fans for a ride than Capcom."
EA: *Ah, finally, a worthy challenger! Our battle will be legendary!*
Nice one bro'!
*CRIES IN DEAD SPACE*
You win! This should have been the top comment.
EA has fans?
Yeah all the madden and fifa morons
Man I wish Infinite had a better chance. Too bad it got Doctor Doom Dive Kicked into an early grave.
*FOOT DIVE*
For a minute I thought you were talking about the SF 3rd Strike rapper
thanks FighterZ
this is what happens when you disrespect doom by excluding him.
it got fo-fo-footdived into the shadow realm
The Chad Kroegar x Maximilian comparison made my sides hurt.
Max has to do his own video with Matt now and put up Fred Durst's face
Chad Kroegar hurts enough on his own in my opinion.
I almost spit out my morning coffee.
I DID IT ALL FOR THE FUNCTIONS!
what are you talking about??
i only see max photos
The failure of this game is really saddening. As pathetic as it sounds, watching this video makes me want to cry.
It was Jedah and X's time to shine but the game wasn't that good.
Don't be. This game bombing will teach marvel a lesson
USERNAME SIMULATOR I think the only thing to come from the failure of MvCI is Marvel or Capcom may hesitate in the future to decide to make another MvC game.
@Nero Mauritzen As do I.
@Nero Mauritzen Is it not ok for me to be passionate about something so trivial? It doesn’t affect you in any negative way so I don’t understand why you feel the need to insult me.
3 years later
EVO died due to controversial issues with the CEO and certain players in the FGC, Game companies distanced away from EVO soon after.
Disney is stilll scummy.
Marvel doing knows what.
Capcom's fighting game mind, Yoshi Ono, left the company and retired after 3 decades of service. SFV still goes strong.
I thought this current pandemic is delaying EVO, for the mean time. Also, FChamp got what he deserved, only perhaps not that excessive of a punishment.
"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Marvel and Capcom's partnership? I thought not, it's not a story Disney would tell you."
"Game companies distanced away from EVO soon after"
"Sony Buys EVO fighting games tournament"
Really seems like they are distancing themselves.
@@RK-iq9uh You can tell Sony will put more restrictions. DoA and Rainbow Mika is just the beginning
Sont bought EVO lol
Oh shit someone else who remembers that PN03 happened
Fa real. Wha happun 🤷🏾♂️
I've had a copy of that game sitting in the back of my closet for over a decade and I have no idea where it came from.
Who could forget that ass?
It had a good soundtrack. I liked that she danced the whole time.
Vanessa would be such a fun character in a vs title. The missed opportunity.
WHY TF IS THAT GODDAMN SONG STILL SO GOOD AFTER ALL THESE YEARS.
She legit says one thing and it NEVER gets old.
I still ask myself this question to this day. She took us for that ride alright... she took us all😔
Donnn't giiiivvveee uuuuuuhhhhp.
it's so good i didn't even know english and i remembered the song forever XD
Well, let me take you for a ride
For me it will always be associated with Kickscammers & Slopes Game Room.
this (subliminal) hate for cylcopse is so funny
Did someone say Cyclops? 😏😂
Well, Cyclops is an asshole. (Or he was the last time I read X-Men)
@@MoeMoeJoeJoeguess what...
There are characters I would love to see in a Marvel vs. game. For example, I would love to see some of my favorite Darkstalkers characters like Jon Talbain finally make a playable appearance since until now, they've only teased him in other cross over games. Seriously, so many games, you'd see him in the background, one time he was directly involved in an ending sequence for Ryu in a game, and in MVC3, he was a costume for Amaterasu.
...Oh hell, Capcom, Make a new Darkstalkers game already. Those were great, damn it.
I know right? I would totally be down for another game.
You know.....Marvel vs Capcom could had really branched out and taken advantage of the cosmi or paranormal side as a way to give the Darkstalkers side a chance to shine once more and test the characters. An opportunity to both take advantage of a limit and resurrect a dormant IP.......missed shot.
Yeah, sad how Darkstalkers hasn’t been acknowledged since 2013.
So what happened?
Disney hates video games. That's Wha Happun.
PathBeyondTheDark well spiderman ps4, kingdom hearts 3, ultimate alliance 3 actually prove that working with other publishers is the best way for disney to do games and it's worked out well for them so far and we still have jedi fallen order and the avengers game from square enix coming out soon as well to see how well they do also.
@@if3rd seems like you ignored the part about him saying the KH devs said they're difficult to work with
Ira Ford Spiderman is a Sony IP.
Juan Daniel only when it comes to live action movies marvel/disney still owns all the other rights to the spiderman ip including video games.
@@if3rd Kingdom Hearts 3 was a rushed mess and the Disney side didn't even matter one bit, Ultimate Alliance 3 was mediocre plus we didn't need ANOTHER Infinity War adaption, and Spider-man was great because Marvel had very little involvement at all, otherwise Mr. Negative and Sable wouldn't of been the main villains. Plus so far The Fallen Order and The Avengers look so forgettable and don't push any boundaries in their respective genres.
I get that Capcom were put in a tough spot when having to give a reason why certain Marvel characters weren't in the game, but that BS "function" garbage excuse was what finally convinced me to completely ignore this game.
Me too. Combofiend so could have done that much better, like saying that they were working with Marvel to get some cool characters into the mix. He only focused too much on the professional side of things, and failed to remember a crossover game is about who you get from the IP's. It didn't help Capcom didn't have much of a budget to go on for MVCI as well as Disney and Marvel not wanting to play ball to help them. So there's just that feeling that *NOBODY* cared about MVCI at all. Just using it as a means to shill money.
@@GiordanDiodato well considering how poorly the game did and with the lack of any news of a new entry, that's essentially what's happening anyway no?
And no, I'm not saying they should've risked burning bridges by "blaming" Disney, but they could've done a far better job and more transparent as to why certain characters were excluded.
@@GiordanDiodato and like I said in my previous post, they essentially did just that by ruining the franchise. No more Marvel characters cause there's no more Marvel vs. Capcom.
And Disney/Marvel should've known that there would be questions and backlash why certain characters have gone missing. It's very much also their fault for not coming up with something to explain the changes.
Man this game needs it's own documentary it's really interesting to see if what everybody was saying about marvel and disney overcontrolling stuff was really true, i cannot believe such a huge business would make such stupid mistakes like others in the past have done with corporate interference, maybe one day we'll know
I didn't know Max was in Guinness. Huh. Neat. I mean I can see why he's the most subbed fighting game channel. I don't even play fighting games outside of absolutely sucking at Smash, but his personality still made them entertaining and interesting enough for me to sub to him.
>When's Mahvel at the last second
Matt please, I'm still trying to ignore the pain.
Can we talk about the special edition that while had decent figures of characters in the game but had Infinity Stones that look like GODDAMN EASTER EGGS
TheEpicRu Never. Forgot. The Infinity Eggs.
They didn't look like....they were easter eggs
how to make those eggs worse: you physically cant even take them out. theyre stuck like that
TheEpicRu oh that’s was just the icing on the cake
Even the figures looked awful compared to what it was shown to look like in pre release material
Seeing Ryu and Nina at 0:35 makes me sad that Capcom will likely never return to that world. Breath of Fire was one of my first JRPGs and I loved it, and Dragon Quarter and 6 were the last games we ever got... :(
2:53 okay, it’s clear someone hates cyclops
Everyone?
He's the pretty boy who married the red head girl that every dude loved.
Chadclops
Me and wolverine
My god the production value and quality of these always blows me away. You can feel the passion in every aspect. There’s no cringe, no click bait, it feels like something that could get picked up and produced as an actual television production. Much respect Matt.
The fact that Matt actually takes a look at these from a developer standpoint considering his past work as a tester/indie developer himself highlights that he has an understanding of setbacks that happen with these games.
He understands the struggle but he doesn't pull punches.
This actually hurt to watch. I miss the days asking for when’s mahvel. Instead I ask where’s mahvel. And to salt the wound dbfz didn’t fill the void.
Fuck DBFZ. I hated the franchise before, and the initial success of that game, being hailed as the game that would unify the FGC, only to be discovered in the long run to have shitty gameplay and consequently being almost dumped, only solidified my hatred for anything related to stupid saiyans.
Marino Lopez I don't really hear DragonBall has bad gameplay and it's still getting DLC so I don't see how it was almost dumped? But I mean you clearly have a negative bias from the get go so no reason to even ask about it lol
JimoAiJustsunkyourship his ass mad marvel sucks
Marino Lopez so much wrong in one post
@@AlbionVega sounds like someone's been taking lots of L's in the game.
Wait...
WHA HAPPUN to the thumbnail?
This game tragedy reminds me of PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale, I love that game for his combat system and "OMG! Heihachi and Cole MacGrath in a 2D Arena fighting game!", but everything has worked against him, even his publisher(Sony)...
Oh boy.......I'm sure the real downfall was the lack of ring outs in that one. Sony had something. They have enough IPs to make it work. But they insisted on being different from Smash Bros and it costed them. That and 2 Coles and Donte. Yeah, real shame there but I still play it.
2:55 Poor cyclops, Imagine what the other characters did to him
@Lipstick Zombie it was a 30 years old story, I'm pretty sure %90 of the people bring that never read actual story and aftermath.
He's a Summers' boy so he deserves it.
@@nemesis3587 his scumyness goes beyond it
Good thing Shuma wasn’t in Infinite. >_>;
@@lipstickzombie4981 And then the writers made his wife Madelyne evil so that no one would feel guilty that Cyclops left. Matt's dislike for Cyclops is probably more about how bland and "by the book" dull he is, especially in the 1990s cartoon.
Surprised the "infinity eggs" were not mentioned. Good vid though.
Just knowing those were literally glowing eggs made me glad I didn’t buy the collectors edition. The statues look fine, but those cheap, plastic excuses of Infinity Stones? Hell naw.
To be honest, wanted to focus as much as we could on the actual development of the game. A collector's edition snafu didn't seem like the most pressing detail to include for this one, cuz there was more to talk about. This compared to Fallout 76, which has no real development details on public record, so therefor, discussing pre-order/CE stuff seemed appropriate.
@@MattMcMuscles I mean, if you were a huge fan and you spent $200 on a product and got bait and switched, it's gonna harbor ill will to those folks. If anything, it was a good telltale sign they were lying and bullshitting out of their teeth for that short term $$$
At least we have Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3: The Black Order. Now they've got the X-Men, the Fantastic Four and Deadpool as well as the Marvel Knights'.
Ah, reminding me of MK Deception. Sweet, sweet memories of those voice actors in the story mode
Prior to Infinite's announcement, I remember seeing rumors that Marvel was planning to phase out Spider-Man too had they not gotten the movie rights for him. That's just crazy to think about.
Seeing the controversy surrounding spiderman in that avengers game....not so crazy anymore.
The X-Men getting shitted on in this game still pisses me off.
Actually it’s Marvels fault for selling the rights to Fox.
I don't think they realized how anal Fox would be.
@@Walt_Xander94 Marvel still could have put them in games. They owned all rights but movie rights
@@Walt_Xander94 The reason they weren't in other media was because marvel wanted to devalue the brands so they could regain the movie rights easier. I am not disparaging them, just pointing out what they did.
@@Walt_Xander94 No dumbing their property just out of the spite was stupid and childish.
Disney/Marvel deserves all the complain they get for this action and not Fox.
Between this and the Avengers game, I hope marvel learn that adapting the source material is a better tact than imitating the MCU
Capcom finally releases a new megaman game after years and a bunch of collections. Starts screwing up fighting games
And RE8 was lit however perfectly balanced like all things should be
I'd just like to remind everyone that after EA made Battlefront 2, Disney came forward and said they were _PROUD_ of what EA had done with their IP.
at this point, I'd rather see Capcom fight someone else like ArcSys or, better yet, make a deal with NRS/WB and have DC vs Capcom. if Disney is going to be a tyrant who only cares about payout or their own agenda, other companies should just walk away from them. let them play with EA and Epic and the other companies who only care about money. Yes it sucks that Marvel is going to be caught in the crossfire but we shouldn't support companies who do shit like they do.
@@nfugitt89 I want a Capcom vs Capcom game so bad, there's so much potential for something awesome
Capcom vs snk would be crazy. Could you imagine that?
@@Igneeka this time don't pull a allstars
@@nfugitt89 or, ya know, capcom vs mortal kombat
I say we kill the mouse
MVCI could have been good, but basically budget constraints and Disney's interference compromised the game.
The gameplay is great but it is everything else that sucks, I was hype about Jedah but then no Ken, and half of Marvels characters cut.
Chemical_E Lol stop. Capcom is trash and didn’t throw money at players. That all
@@georgepascual1
What? How is Capcom trash?
It was more of marvels fault and maybe ike perlmutter's
@@Jeff-lc7lp His campaign at ruining the mutant IP really damaged everyone else.....
"My spidey-sense...im picking up....nothing"
That hurt
I just want mvc origins for Xbox 360 back 😭 it’s impossible to buy because they are insanely dumb and delisted it and was digital only
I so want a Darkstalkers remake...
Marvel vs Capcom Infinite gets a "What Happened" video every anniversary.
@@twitchinstereo The hope that this video will caught the intention of the higher up and try to make a new game wihout the fuck up.
When you screw up MARVEL VS CAPCOM, someone has to look back each year and ask "What?", "Why?" and "How?"
Can we did through the shitbag that is JumpForce or is it too soon?
shh, let it die please
I heard Jump Force sold alright tho.
GAMERDROID94 I mean when jt comes to Arena Fighter games they are always ass
MVCI was at least fun to play and felt like they genuinely put best efforts into it. Jump Force feels like it had 20 people making ideas for vastly different types of games and just slapped them together
@@ourlasthope9593 hey naruto storm 4 is solid
The part about Evo didn’t age well knowing now what we know about Mr. Wizard. Yikes 😳
The Developers really messed up big time with Marvel vs Capcom Infinite, but it seems some of it is with the people they worked with. Marvel definitely seemed to be more problematic than days past. Excluding those that really tried their hardest to make the game fun, unfortunately certain kinds of people kept them from making the game shine. And because of them, Marvel vs Capcom has been taking a hiatus. It doesn't help that the developers weren't given enough money for their budget amongst other problems. Once other fighter games hit the scene, Marvel vs Capcom Infinite was just left forgotten, even myself after I tried the game out, and I was loving Mega Man X in MVC finally! It just shows the selfishness and pettiness of Marvel and Capcom and their decisions that held the game back from greatness.
And it is that pettiness why i feel that if they do a MVC4...bringing the mutants won't be enough. THey h have to do more, they have toe arn taht lost trust, respect and confidence they had lost along the way since both were responsible for the mistake. When they do that, ill support a new entry.
Probably with marvel has to appeal to the MCU as which is why they were pushing hard for Captain Marvel and Black Panther and wanted nothing to do with the fantastic Four or X-men.
It's not a hiatus, it's a retirement
MVCI = No more X men
MVC4 = No More Spider-Man.
I've always hated how Spidey plays in these game so I wouldn't miss him much.
Well my friend you equal 1 person and thats 1 against thousands though i will admit he plays like a paper bag thats in the wind
MvC: Oops All Capcoms
No Spidey will be in, he is the TOP character of marvel, he got in MvC3 no problem, for example.
Hakkem Johnson Sony owns rights to spidey so the ps4 version will have spidey
Not having any mutants or Fantastic 4 characters were the exact reason I didn't buy this crap. Marvel vs Capcom without Wolverine is just baffling to me.
@@truearea53 3rd one what? Are you talking about the third game? Because that *had* the X-Men.
Yea and the guy saying they are just functions and the graphics were awkward
I played on xbox game pass
"characters are just functions" is specially bullshit considering how street fighter's amount of shotos. Ryu,Ken,Sakura,Akuma do almost the same stuff with little variation but its literally their character and how it relates to the player which pushes people to keep asking for them.
Remeber the time Max just got hyped when it revealed its teaser?
Bloody Roar PLEASE COME BACK. I miss you 😢😥
@@BeamClaws I mean, Konami own it but a lot of the Hudson staff still are at the company. Since they revived bomberman, maybe they will also revive bloody roar.
@SharinganSakura well, I guess the problem is that bloody roar was dead long before Konami acquired Hudson. I guess it's one of those series that just fades into obscurity because of too many competitors in the market.
Yo yes i want that.
Me:: Yes!!!!
New Generation: What is a Bloody Roar? Is it a new form of Fortnite?
@@RX-NoName I don't say it was really dead, because the gameplay they had was pretty ahead of their time(fighters turning into BEASTS! NONE HAD THAT) and it has been a pretty HUGE fanbase in Asia. Ask any people in Asia and they would say this is the first game that brightened their childhood.
Until Konami completely acquired Hudson, at the wrong time(there was a huge clash between Konami and Kojima back in 2012 because of the MGS franchise), and since then every other gaming IPs were on their shelf, never seen the light of day, and their employees(including from Hudson) were not allowed to LEAVE the company.
@@RX-NoName yes, and no
Yes, the employees are still there but it was because Konami forced them to stay. The so-called "revived" Bomberman(which was trash, according to players. Also technically one of Hudson's creation) was basically a hate letter to Konami, begging to be fired from their job.
Avoiding the puddle Arise Put it best by saying
INFINITES Biggest problem is While you can do cool shit, You unfortunately Cant do it with Cool Characters.
That's good! Sums it up perfectly!
Ah yes, my favourite character with a rich background, monsterhunter.
The PG-13 Deadpool was to prove to Disney and marvel they could do a PG-13 version in case Disney wouldn’t release a R film.
Characters are just Funtions , there's no Magneto cuz Nova can do the same thing .
Excuse me WTF ? It's like saying There won't be Scorpion in MK Roster cuz Sub Zero can do an uppercut also
ttTTHAAANKK YOUU!!!!!!!!!!!
THIS! Hell, Ken and Ryu were basically the same character for YEARS, but they were always in the game!
MKT :why You need Scorpion? Human Smoke make The same funtion and better
Last time I was this early, Marvel vs Capcom still used pixel graphics
@@paulakroy2635 I believe most agree, the comic book style worked great
Solid Snake Its way better and has personality compared to the souless graphics of MvCI
@@paulakroy2635 - it's less about 3 looking bad, and more about pixel art looking Good, and triggering some serious nostalgia boners.
I get that Combofiend couldn't say "Marvel did it" because if he did, Disney would've erased all traces of his existence.
But there HAD to have been a better excuse than "lel functions"
There isn't
MvCI has given me the weirdest experience I have ever had with a newly released game. Bought it a few days after release, played through the story, polished up in training/arcade mode and went online. Me as a European, has NEVER found an online match. Not even during normal game peak times. I basically bought this game for its story mode if you think about it. I felt like a fool.
Time to relive the sadness of loving this games gameplay all over again
Floof Moth Only MvC where I can successfully land a 100% combo.
My guy actually put a picture up of Chad Kroeger to signify when Max was speaking.
Dead.
😂😂☠️☠️
Look at this photograph!
@@CCLonYT It always makes me laugh
The worst MvC was made at the peak of the Disney phase of Marvel. What a surprise...
MVC is dead so long as Disney owns marvel. They’d only want to incorporate their shitty movies into the games
I’m still pissed Amaterasu didn’t get added into Marvel Vs Capcom Infinite
No pretty paint pupper and no Vergil. :(
The story needed to suck Disney's dick, there's no way they could put a legit god in if it was going to invalidate Marvel's characters.
@@YEs69th420 Get Chibi then
I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way! I definitely lost interest in this game after I found out that Amaterasu got cut from it. That was literally the only character I liked using anyway lol.
Well it would be kinda weird seeing her in the art style since the world of okami' s art style and what not is based on Japanese paintings or something like that you know what I mean
I had major whiplash from hearing take you for a ride and then not hearing Larry bundy jr
Yeah i kept waiting for "Hello you"
Damn you can see Matt and Max had fun making this episode, it's well done and funny
Damn Marvel has massive egos and too much power
14:45 Seriously?!?! I knew that Capcom had to fight for Shuma Gorath because it's just a demon squid. But Marvel didn't want to have fucking Deadpool in MvC3?! One of the most popular character at the time! WTF Marvel?
You know. Despite the controversy, the graphics, the story mode, the roster. I would forgiven it all if it wasn’t for the fact the music made it such a bore.
Half the reason I love or play Capcom games in general is for the music, and Marvel Vs Capcom has some of my favorite character theme music in fighting game history and they scrapped it for shitty remixes and MCU style theatrical score style yawn fest.
joshua frazier THIS. It always surprised me that almost nobody mentiobed how MEDIOCRE the music in this game is. Just like you, I find it the most offensive thing in the game.
If they really wanted to make the music more like the MCU, they should've just made orchestral versions of the characters themes from the previous games instead of creating all-new themes for the Marvel characters.
There are some good ones(for me,at least)but yeah,most of them are kinda.....meh
I actually didn’t notice the music, which I guess just proves your point. To be fair, I’m usually too focused on playing to notice music anyway, but if it’s on the level of Doom or Streets of Rage it’ll stand out to me.
the music tracks *on their own* aren’t that bad, imo, but when you put them side by side, they all sound almost exactly the same. as much as i love the MCU, i prefer the traditional approach to characters’ theme tracks, where they try to *represent the characters and not just the movies* .
Id love to see a Wha Happun about Fable: The Journey, that Fable Kinect game!!
I tried a demo at PAX at the height of the "ITS NOT ON RAILS" (even though it was?) controversy and BOY was the demo guy aggressive about that! It was so buggy i was unable to get anything to work and he angrily said i was doing it wrong, stepping into try and failing himself to get any of his movements to register. Im so curious what was happening behind the scenes with that game!!
They should've made a new IP and called it Avengers vs. Capcom
Fans could justify there being no Marvel characters and it would push the Avengers movies
Win, Win
Exactly!
Working it as a spinoff and they could even had used it to exploit or take advantage of dormant ips
I did like the idea of the X saga in megaman having more involvement since it had Ultron....BOOM
But..both companeis were too stubborn to understand.
3rd Strike Announcer: "Aww Yeah! I've been waiting for this!"
They took the logo off of Bag-Man?! That legitimately hurts my soul
7:46: *look at how they massacred my girl*
Roughly two years since this video went online and Capcom still hasn't budged on making an All-Capcom fighting game. Instead, we got fucking Teppen.
"Hello Matthew"
*Max instantly becomes a girl for a second*
I'm curious as to what you think a girl is
@@oh-not-the-bees7872 I'm curious if you noticed that his comic picture had tits at that very moment.
@@oh-not-the-bees7872 Did you not see the picture? 😑
The biggest crime this game committed wasn’t the graphics, the roster, or the removal of the X-Men, it was the music.
Was it on the level of infamous fail trumpets of RE1:Director's Cut:DualShock Mansion Basement track?
Wait, it had music?
King Bash Yeah aside from the Character Select theme which is my personal fav in the series, the remixes were pretty awful.
The Darkstalkers themes were okay. Kinda weird but an interesting direction, especially with Jedah’s theme.
There were a few good songs in there. I kinda liked Doctor Strange's new theme, but all the other returning Marvel characters should've kept their original themes. Especially Captain America and Spider-Man.
Infinite would have thrived in a vacuum. That's a good point Mr. McMuscles.
Didn't buy this game out of protest for the Disney B.S. and lack of X-Men. Years later, on sale for 8.99 and still won't buy. F Disney.
There was also the whole PR fiasco where pro players were essentially told to promote the game or get "left behind" when it came to getting invites to events.
-No Super Skrull
-No Amaterasu
That happened
Back when Infinite came out, the lack of Amaterasu was the sole reason for my lack of interest.
No deadpool or Akuma either
EVERYONE: THEY TOOK OUT DEADPOOL
Devs: But we put in thanos
me: a soul for a soul
Also devs: *take out all x-men and fantastic 4 characters, as well as she hulk*
Me: that is not the law of equivalent exchange.
I get the feeling there should have been, and would have been, more DLC characters available. Four of the DLC were Marvel and only two were Capcom. You'd think it'd be balanced out so both sides were equal....guess we'll never know.
Honestly though Capcom did need better characters than what the game delivered
Ahh, how far MVC had fallen. For the longest time it set a high standard for the most insane and varied fighting game crossover... until Smash Ultimate arguably surpassed it. I know stumblebee already made an excellent video on Infinite but I’m glad it got the Wha Happun treatment. Speaking of fighters, what about PS All Stars Battle Royale as a future episode? Not sure if it had development issues outside of creative choices and PR. And since DBFZ was obviously brought up, what about DB Evolution? It is tailor made to be covered here.
No one wants to remember DB:E...it's why we got DB Super. It left such a bad taste in Toriyama's mouth he wanted to continue but the story was picked up without an existing manga made (sound familiar Game of Thrones fans?) while Toriyataro penned out the manga in the meantime. DBS was a mediocre continuation that devolved into shit, retcons to sell more toys, and the only really good things that came from it was DB Fighterz -and pics of the U9 cast- btw, I can tell you now Dragonball Super from the Zamasu arc to the Tournament of Power is a copy/rehash of Kinnikuman's Perfect Numbers arc and Scramble for the Throne arc respectively.
Why would a wrestling series from the 80s have relevance to now? This considering the sequel series Ultimate Muscle was in the early to mid 2000s? Because, it was in 2011 there was a CONTINUATION of the ORIGINAL Kinnikuman story leading to the Perfect Numbers arc (a continuation after Scramble Throne arc), which has similar plot points the Zamasu arc has with the whole god wanting to wipe out mortals due to the non-MC character but also has a hate for MC because of their power. The tournament arcs groups arranged in teams where punishments of erasing the losers from existence for a series where death isn't permanent for a character happens.
Someone else, I believe YuriofWind, did a review of the DB:Evolution fighting game on PSP/Vita(?). It's pretty ok...plays like a Budokai game, so that's something. The one ok thing that ever came from that movie.
I believe Dragon Ball Evolution was part of the list on one of Matt's pateron polls, but MVCI got the most vote. But yeah, I hope DBE gets the Wha Happun treatment because man... there is A LOT about that movie.
@singularon1 Idk, unless Mario gets to fight Goku one day in Smash, there's still some novelty left on the premise of MVC. But hey, I wasn't exactly around during MVC's heydays...
At least we'll always have Mugen...
Matt + Maximillian = Top 10 Anime Crossovers
Not relevant to your comment, but your taste in music is impeccable.
12:19 “bando namci”
I literally only wanted to play this game for X and Zero