I'm so glad that people are naming these companies. It's getting RIDICULOUS how unprofessional they're getting. We really have to start putting their names out there. I once had a 5 ROUND INTERVIEW (I'm in finance, some zoom interviews), then after the 5th round (which was in person), got ghosted. 😑
I just had an initial screening with Scribd yesterday. I asked the internal recruiter how many rounds in the process and she said 6. I said oh thats a lot of rounds and she just giggled like she enjoys that.
Something really similar happened to me. I interviewed for an internship and got a verbal offer. I went through the entire hiring process: background check, physical exam, picking up equipment, etc. Then, the business day before I was supposed to start, I got an email saying my offer was rescinded due to budget considerations, but they told me I'd be prioritized for the next season. To top it off, I got an email the following week (while failing my Roblox OA) saying they'd found a new team for me and were ready to extend the offer again. All I had to do was wait for Monday orientation. Then, on Friday, the same thing happened… I got a call saying the new department's budget had been cut, and they were rescinding my offer again. They really doubled down on the trauma.
I interviewed at meta, thought I did really well and was going to receive an offer. I got a email from the recruiter saying he wanted to hop on a call. 2 days pass of me thinking I got the job. We get on the call and he tells me I didnt get it.
You're insanely driven, I can't believe the marklet is so poor it's even affecting you. I'm sorry you had to go through this, but kudos to you. You're definitely gonna find much better than ASSana. Keep grinding.
Ive been in the field for about 10 years. Laid of 3 times. I don't care how much you make, save every dime. Always be remote, preferably living with your parents and saving every dime. Im remote overseas, with enough money to retire tomorrow if needed. One health issue could be a major set back. Usa cost of living is insane literally, don't waste your money living in an overpriced metro dump, be smart.
No need to live with your parents while working IF YOU MAKE GOOD BUCKS, but keep that option open just in case. Live as if you make at most 1/2 of your salary though.
Facts, also while you’re young keep a concept of Debt to Income ratio in mind. It doesn’t matter if you make a big dev salary if rent/mortgage, uncle sam, the car, and other large expenses take away most of it.
I had 6 interviews lined up, all at places I would have absolutely loved to work at. Failed 2 of the on-sites, failed 3 phone screens, and failed one recruiter screen. I am super dejected as I've been unemployed for several months now and throwing away the opportunities I have been lucky to get. Your videos are motivating for me though and I look forward to seeing your unemployment journey conclude.
Nvidia gave me an offer during covid. I initially told the internal recruiter I was interviewing with a few FAANG companies at the same time while working full-time and didn't have the bandwidth. The recruiter kept insisting, so I decided to go through the process. They kept extending the number of interviews. Eventually, I got an offer and that weekend I was told they need to call me on Monday. They told me they decided to rescind my offer due to not being able to onboard well because of covid. I asked for more details and was told it was my "years of experience" which they were initially fine with.
Actually had my manager told us that my company prefers not to hire candidates higher level than the job they are applying for. They worry 1) people continue to job hunt - knowing they are underpaid. 2) asking for a promotion too quickly. 3) unhappy at the company because of downleveling It's unfortunate, it's like you're being punished for doing so well in the interview. Anyway, Best of luck to you in your job search!
This video was the realest one I’ve seen from ur channel. It was funny af too. I think it videos should be in this format. But I feel you on the job hunt good luck dude
@@namanhkapur your thoughts on couresera coding courses and extension courses for ppl that don’t have cs degrees and how you think they will stack up against cs degree coders in the new job market
I get tired of thos BS hiring process and decided to build my own project, its been 4 years now my project reached 100k users not making good money yet 😅 but ill be a millionaire for sure, im Implementing apple subscription purchases and its hell with the backend server verification, so my advice you're smart just start building your own project
It feels so exciting/anxious to be waiting for the response/reply from the hiring team. I can’t even imagine those many interviews F hell! …It feels so frustrating to speak about so much about yourself and what all you know and listen a rejection.
I’ve worked in HR for the last seven years while recently completing a BS in Software Engineering, hoping to switch fields. These kind of stories are so disheartening and I’m so sorry you had to experience this. It’s a sign of how broken the modern recruiting and hiring process is. I’ve personally experienced great candidates being turned down at the fear they would be “too bored” in a role without really assessing if that is a valid fear or not. I hope you find something way better and very soon.
I watched your first video and I am one of your first subs I truly believe you are very smart . To be honest, I encourage you to start building real project first yourself and you will make it for sure. For the past 12 months , I have been building micro applications in top of my full time job . The goal is to reach 10k/month and quit my job. I am not making that much but with consistency, I will get there.
I understand the frustration. But that's completely normal. They likely had an approved budget specifically for an L4 role. If they hired someone overqualified, that person might receive an offer for an L5 position with higher pay from another company within a few months. Since they won’t be able to get approval for a salary raise that quickly to provide a counter-offer, the person may leave, forcing them to restart the hiring process.
Namanh, Just be careful when you make videos like this. Tech companies scare easily. They offer alot of luxuries but they are full of people who are easily impacted and offended. It's where recruiters psychoanalyze feedback and mutate it into "not a good culture fit" because they're hypersensitive. An ASANA recruiter watching this might want to "share their thoughts" with other recruiters about yourself. Just something I noticed based on anecdotes I heard from other engineers Oh and being rejected for being too good ---> Now that's a fucking travesty. Look at how this world operates. Complete RNG. Stay legendary bro
Although unfortunate you didn’t get the job the bright side is that your skills are tip top. I’m working to get to that level. Studying OOP currently. I’m a full stack web dev but looking to branch out
The senior developer there got afraid you gonna surpass them they dont want you there and the manager agrees because they dont want to lose their actual good programmers
@namanhkapur thats my number one guess from passed experience. i seen stuff like this, they're probably in need for a helper programmer, not an advanced programmer because having too many smart programmers can lead to clashes and its not good for company stability, sometimes its right thing to do, ill be waiting for you to start your own project man you're very advanced nothing stops you find an idea and start
Bro thanks for sharing. I feel like they gave you an interview for senior role listening to you. And turning you down because you aced it? It’s just so messed up. It’s like you need to play mind game at the same time…
Bruh the tech market is rough right now. Sucks your offer got rescinded. I'm also in the job hunt and man its terrible. I would get interviews left and right back in 2022 but now in 2024 I'm getting way less interviews. I'm also looking for remote only and hybrid only if 20-30 minutes away. I wish hybrid was optional to be honest since I would get my work done before 5 and you get shamed if you leave before 5 at least how it was before the pandemic. I get hybrid make sense for you since you live in Manhattan and its close by commute. I heard people take hour commute from Long Island, NJ and Connecticut one way and that sounds terrible.
I was applying for jobs online late 2023, early 2024 and got a callback on roughly 40% of my applications (applied to 60-ish companies). Mostly FAANG-types and top startups. Insanely high rate that surprised me, especially because I’m mid-level in big tech terms. Honestly, FAANG background + perfectly framing the impact of your work is an unlock. My experience wasn’t all that special. Landing an offer in this market though - totally different story lmao.
I failed my first on-site at Asana in iceland and they rejected me but encouraged me to apply again later. Insane.. why not just take me and help me get to the shape I would need to be in to apply for this position later? I am highly skilled and sociable. Its probably just a shit company.
That exact same thing happened to me a month ago. Did the interview, killed it, got a follow up call and all looking good. And then next thing I know the main Director of their team calls me and says we were really impressed during your interview. So impressed in fact I don't think it's going to work out. Your skills are beyond this position and you wouldn't be challenged and you would be bored. So we have decided to go with somebody else less qualified. I was fully willing to give them my skills for what they were paying. And they would rather pay the same for somebody who doesn't know the job. 😅
Asana is not worth that interview process. What in the world. Sorry you went through that. I'm 15 years in and I've encountered the "too experienced" thing several times, starting fairly early in my career. I've also watched hiring processes I've participated in go totally ass-backwards because people on the team don't want the best person for the role, but the best person according to their preferences and insecurities. It sounds silly, but people do amazing mental gymnastics to convince themselves that someone AMAZING for the role isn't quite the right "cultural fit". I'm all for cultural fit. But the existing team shouldn't possess sole discretion to determine what that culture is, because you wind up with a stagnating, B-or-C-tier, monocrop team of mediocrity that can't handle working with people who don't make them feel great (or worse, intimidate them). Weird stuff.
@@namanhkapur I agree. I think it's in part due to how immature and unstructured our industry is. It's run by a lot of unprofessional, unskilled, unaware people who have managed to succeed despite these deficits. It instills an undeserved sense of competence.
Currently studying mathematical statistics and psychology. Even though I'm not an aspiring SWE, this market downturn has been eye-opening and I believe similar struggles are being experienced among statisticians and data analysts. Currently contemplating getting a license to teach mathematics just in case I have trouble finding a job in the private sector. Gl in your job-search Namnh!
Similar stuff happened to me with Canonical. I went through multiple interview stages: wrote a 3-page response to background questions, did a coding test, did a design test and attended 3 interviews over the course of a week. After each stage, I was told that I had done well and was selected to proceed to the next stage. The entire process took 2 MONTHS! And then they reject me.
Hey! UI/UX Designer here… When applying online, did you tailor your resume and the cover letter for Asana (And other companies you applied for) to get the interview? Also, that’s messed up. Keep up, you’ll find your new home soon.
Asana has joined my list of companies that I used to dream of working for (10 years ago while I was in Japan playing with Angular JS and Angular 2 Beta) but the hype is gone and the company is relying too much on its past glory. I'm not sure what you wanted to achieve there that has not already been done. But I guess salary and food are more important than an interesting tech stack and projects. My list includes Blizzard (I wanted to work on Starcraft 2 when I was a teenager but now I hate this company and every single spin off like Frost Giant).
Hey, silver lining - at least they told you that you're basically a senior dev, so in the future when you're applying to other roles you can apply to the more senior ones knowing that you're good enough, and demand the equivalent salary. Actually kind of wholesome cause most employers would LOVE for you to think you're worse than you actually are so they can pay you less. It does suck that they would pass up on a great candidate (just make an extra position if you find someone that's that good!) but outside of that, I feel like they did you a bit of favor with that.
I think this ''weird situation" is pretty common in the workplace They call it "over-qualified" They are not seeking for the job, instead, they're finding someone who's ok for this job And your abilities surpassed their expectations and in fact over-qualification is the insecurity for those seniors (In most case the good workers would seek for another role within a short period of time) they don't want someone who are too good for the role If there's a spectrum of 1-100, they're looking for someone who is like 65-75 and a bit higher In simple words, they don't want someone who's good, because they assume that the good ones would leave the company very quick And that's their evaluation for the risk of employing the great candidates, and most of the employers or seniors still take this standard as a guide
@@namanhkapur Your case is like common, but I'd say you told too much to your employers during your interview So I'd say try not to stand out too much in the interview Not always, but the scale of the company usually tells, find some reviews of that companies also would help you to evaluate their attitude towards their orientation of candidates choosing (of course you should know a bit about the company before you go to their invitations) To someone who are not too clear about the job market Possessing a master degree after a bachelor degree is common, but they also prefer someone with more job experience instead of academic papers That's why we sometimes see a PhD candidates don't get a job interview You either hide your highest degree record, or go to a really great company for an interview. Don't see an in between.
200 junior/entry level jobs that i've applied to in the last 2 months. No bites yet. It honestly scares me the seeming depth of that interview because i would definitely have made my fair share of errors..but here's to hope that those who stick it out will be rewarded
If you're hired at a lower position, there is a risk of you leaving them when you find something that matches your level. That's the reason I can think of why they rejected you. Sucks tho.
Very similar situation happened to me at asana!! I aced all the interviews the recruiter told me everyone loved me but they didn't have a role for me anymore...
it's tough here. I was rejected before because I will be bored on the job, or I'm too much in one field and they want to have very specific other experience, or I have a PhD and too academic for job interviews.
I had a similar experience with a top product based ecom companies in India. Completed 5 rounds of technical interview and then 1 HR round, Then salary discussion. And then documents were shared. Then the HR ghosted me for 3 weeks and finally after my multiple phone calls , informed that offer is on hold due to organisation restructuring. 🤷 Painful to wait for 1 month, just to hear this.
You be surprised this happens all the time you not the only one... 7 years ago this happened to me at a company I interviewed at an it was a mid level dev position but because they said I was at a senior level I couldn't get the mid level position.... and I'm like bro it's ok it's a $10,000 difference I don't care and they were like "No we usually like to pay our developers according to their level".... I'm like SMFH
What's this proxy for the database you created for Black Fridays? Was it used for intercepting and routing/controlling how reads and writes occur? Maybe some smart caching? Beefed up logging?
whole video just seemed so stressful, doesn't it bother you that there's that many steps? I get that the pay and benefits are great...but it's like they make you turn into a hamster in a rube goldberg machine to get all of that, and in the end there might not even be a reward that was promised, kinda like how they took the offer away from you.
@@namanhkapur I had a similar situation play out, got an offer and it was rescinded. Back to square one, but it's going to work out and I'm at least wiser to how crappy this industry can be sometimes.
Even me I have been ghosted with a certain company in my city , and i personally didnt reach out to them because I just concluded maybe that is not the place i would like to work in (Because i always think that if they need me in their team then they will reach out).
my advice to swe going foward, get into a domain and become an expert. general swe market is crazy competitive. Get into something like healthcare cancer or some corner of financial /quant engineering to differentiate yourself. Otherwise u r competing with literally everyone that can code worldwide
Question. I want to be like you in the future. I’m currently a junior engineer trying to make Yt videos, but also looking for another role. You have a successful channel, ie a user base of dedicated potential customers who WANT to support you, and obviously you have the engineering talent. Why not make your own product? You can build in public, receive detailed feedback, and also never have to deal with this bs. Plus imo way more fun. I would assume you generate enough money from this channel to do that? Plus you got the location
No matter how bad your situation is, I'd say some people are still worse off. God, I would love to have your skill as a software engineer, so I can already build my startups but being poor and not a software engineer, I can't build them. Even submitting an idea to incubator is not acceptable today, i need at least an MVP. I would really prefer that you just build your own startup, you don't need these companies. I wish you to have your own successful company instead.
Ahh the classic NYC attrition risk, Asana knew you were definitely overqualified and the city has too much opportunity for you to find a better job with better pay. If you took a lower position , you will probably jump ship before you actually make an impact in the company.
I don't like people like you who I consider self centered and amoral. But I have to say you tell a pretty engaging story. I started out hate watching and then I was rooting for you.
your dream company from the sounds of it is a bottom of the barrle pos place to work and probably has some messed up toxic culture. be glad you didn't end up working there. it sucks when you're looking for a job, stay postive and always know you self worth.
Nah nah NAH NAH “You did too well we regret to inform you that we could not give you an offer…” If that was deadasss I've lost hope for the tech industry
I could understand it if it was a small company that really has to look at each dime and they didn't want to invest into a candidate that will leave soon-ish because of overqualification/better salary elsewhere. But such a big company, if they think you're L5, they can just easily pay you L5 salary. wtf lol
Am I the only one who thinks these companies are becoming ridiculous with their interviews? Asana? Multiple rounds of technical interviews and so on? What the hell is going on? Not only that, but after all the rounds of interview they also had the guts to tell you "oh btw you are too good to work this position" Are they even serious?
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I'm so glad that people are naming these companies. It's getting RIDICULOUS how unprofessional they're getting. We really have to start putting their names out there. I once had a 5 ROUND INTERVIEW (I'm in finance, some zoom interviews), then after the 5th round (which was in person), got ghosted. 😑
CMI also ghosted me after 6 months and 5 rounds.
Sorry you went through that
Hey now, don't be shy - live your own advice and name the company! 👀
@@MasterPpv Bruh, he's giving these companies legitimacy by ignoring his own advice 😂
I just had an initial screening with Scribd yesterday. I asked the internal recruiter how many rounds in the process and she said 6.
I said oh thats a lot of rounds and she just giggled like she enjoys that.
Something really similar happened to me. I interviewed for an internship and got a verbal offer. I went through the entire hiring process: background check, physical exam, picking up equipment, etc. Then, the business day before I was supposed to start, I got an email saying my offer was rescinded due to budget considerations, but they told me I'd be prioritized for the next season.
To top it off, I got an email the following week (while failing my Roblox OA) saying they'd found a new team for me and were ready to extend the offer again. All I had to do was wait for Monday orientation. Then, on Friday, the same thing happened… I got a call saying the new department's budget had been cut, and they were rescinding my offer again. They really doubled down on the trauma.
That’s insane and should be illegal
what???? There's no way this is Legal
@@namanhkapurit is illegal but how much it'll cost them it's usually not enough for them to change the practice
was this a FAANG company?
I interviewed at meta, thought I did really well and was going to receive an offer. I got a email from the recruiter saying he wanted to hop on a call. 2 days pass of me thinking I got the job. We get on the call and he tells me I didnt get it.
God I hate when they do that sorry
Sorry and rooting for you
You're insanely driven, I can't believe the marklet is so poor it's even affecting you. I'm sorry you had to go through this, but kudos to you. You're definitely gonna find much better than ASSana. Keep grinding.
appreciate it!
I confirm the market is getting better. it's not even "good" it's just better than last year
Lmao facts
Ive been in the field for about 10 years. Laid of 3 times. I don't care how much you make, save every dime. Always be remote, preferably living with your parents and saving every dime. Im remote overseas, with enough money to retire tomorrow if needed. One health issue could be a major set back. Usa cost of living is insane literally, don't waste your money living in an overpriced metro dump, be smart.
Living with parents is the best, I did it for 3 years!
No need to live with your parents while working IF YOU MAKE GOOD BUCKS, but keep that option open just in case.
Live as if you make at most 1/2 of your salary though.
Facts, also while you’re young keep a concept of Debt to Income ratio in mind. It doesn’t matter if you make a big dev salary if rent/mortgage, uncle sam, the car, and other large expenses take away most of it.
I had 6 interviews lined up, all at places I would have absolutely loved to work at. Failed 2 of the on-sites, failed 3 phone screens, and failed one recruiter screen. I am super dejected as I've been unemployed for several months now and throwing away the opportunities I have been lucky to get. Your videos are motivating for me though and I look forward to seeing your unemployment journey conclude.
Keep going! Everyone I know fails tech interviews. Theres a element of luck to them.
💯
@@19adhin its such a broken process.
Insane. Stay positive.
yessir always
Nvidia gave me an offer during covid. I initially told the internal recruiter I was interviewing with a few FAANG companies at the same time while working full-time and didn't have the bandwidth. The recruiter kept insisting, so I decided to go through the process. They kept extending the number of interviews. Eventually, I got an offer and that weekend I was told they need to call me on Monday. They told me they decided to rescind my offer due to not being able to onboard well because of covid. I asked for more details and was told it was my "years of experience" which they were initially fine with.
that's actually insane i'm sorry you went through that smh
Such a weird situation to be in "You're too good... so uhh yeah you can't work here" lol
i know right
it's a very real thing, but i doubt that at such a large company they couldn't have hired him at a higher level
Do too bad on interviews = rejection
Do too good on interviews = rejection
This industry is unreal
Actually had my manager told us that my company prefers not to hire candidates higher level than the job they are applying for.
They worry 1) people continue to job hunt - knowing they are underpaid. 2) asking for a promotion too quickly. 3) unhappy at the company because of downleveling
It's unfortunate, it's like you're being punished for doing so well in the interview. Anyway, Best of luck to you in your job search!
Thanks brother
This video was the realest one I’ve seen from ur channel. It was funny af too. I think it videos should be in this format. But I feel you on the job hunt good luck dude
Appreciate it I’ve been enjoying this style a lot - anything else you’d like to see or any feedback?
@@namanhkapur your thoughts on couresera coding courses and extension courses for ppl that don’t have cs degrees and how you think they will stack up against cs degree coders in the new job market
asana rly out here like "its not u its me" damn
Lmaooo
I did not know interviews would be that long. 2 hour blocks is crazy. I'd be pissed having to go through all that just to be ghosted.
I know 90 mins coding is too much they better pay me next time
I get tired of thos BS hiring process and decided to build my own project, its been 4 years now my project reached 100k users not making good money yet 😅 but ill be a millionaire for sure, im Implementing apple subscription purchases and its hell with the backend server verification, so my advice you're smart just start building your own project
Dude that’s crazy congrats!!
good advice, I also thinking about to start my own business, cause too tired of the BS hiring process.
@yanasosnovskaya864 The time you waste solving leetcode, just invest that on your project, you will end up with life benefits
What’s the product called
It feels so exciting/anxious to be waiting for the response/reply from the hiring team. I can’t even imagine those many interviews F hell! …It feels so frustrating to speak about so much about yourself and what all you know and listen a rejection.
I’ve worked in HR for the last seven years while recently completing a BS in Software Engineering, hoping to switch fields. These kind of stories are so disheartening and I’m so sorry you had to experience this. It’s a sign of how broken the modern recruiting and hiring process is. I’ve personally experienced great candidates being turned down at the fear they would be “too bored” in a role without really assessing if that is a valid fear or not. I hope you find something way better and very soon.
Thanks!!
Stay positive! Good luck!
thanks!!
I watched your first video and I am one of your first subs
I truly believe you are very smart .
To be honest, I encourage you to start building real project first yourself and you will make it for sure.
For the past 12 months , I have been building micro applications in top of my full time job .
The goal is to reach 10k/month and quit my job.
I am not making that much but with consistency, I will get there.
I remember I had a friend who told me once, “in this life, if something seems too good to be true, then most likely it is.” I hope you get a job man.
Appreciate it brother
Damn thats gotta hurt. Still trying to get a junior role myself and like always nothing.
keep going, market's improving!
I understand the frustration. But that's completely normal.
They likely had an approved budget specifically for an L4 role. If they hired someone overqualified, that person might receive an offer for an L5 position with higher pay from another company within a few months. Since they won’t be able to get approval for a salary raise that quickly to provide a counter-offer, the person may leave, forcing them to restart the hiring process.
you're right such a sad reality
Offer rescinds tells you more about the company than yourself... Dodged a bullet fr. Stay positive!
Namanh,
Just be careful when you make videos like this.
Tech companies scare easily. They offer alot of luxuries but they are full of people who are easily impacted and offended.
It's where recruiters psychoanalyze feedback and mutate it into "not a good culture fit" because they're hypersensitive.
An ASANA recruiter watching this might want to "share their thoughts" with other recruiters about yourself.
Just something I noticed based on anecdotes I heard from other engineers
Oh and being rejected for being too good ---> Now that's a fucking travesty. Look at how this world operates.
Complete RNG.
Stay legendary bro
Not scared of anyone (but you’re right)
This fucking market is insane. I'm actually surprised you haven't talked about unemployment benefits here? I think that should be a video too
Good idea
welcome back!
thank you thank you
Although unfortunate you didn’t get the job the bright side is that your skills are tip top. I’m working to get to that level. Studying OOP currently. I’m a full stack web dev but looking to branch out
The senior developer there got afraid you gonna surpass them they dont want you there and the manager agrees because they dont want to lose their actual good programmers
Unbelievable if true
@namanhkapur thats my number one guess from passed experience. i seen stuff like this, they're probably in need for a helper programmer, not an advanced programmer because having too many smart programmers can lead to clashes and its not good for company stability, sometimes its right thing to do, ill be waiting for you to start your own project man you're very advanced nothing stops you find an idea and start
That's messed up, I would be furious. At least you know you're competent but damn, that's such a shitty thing to happen.
crazy right
Bro thanks for sharing. I feel like they gave you an interview for senior role listening to you. And turning you down because you aced it? It’s just so messed up. It’s like you need to play mind game at the same time…
yo thumbnail goes crazy
Thanks bro
The trend of people doxxing themselves after being rejected by companies is crazy.
Lmao
Bruh the tech market is rough right now. Sucks your offer got rescinded. I'm also in the job hunt and man its terrible. I would get interviews left and right back in 2022 but now in 2024 I'm getting way less interviews.
I'm also looking for remote only and hybrid only if 20-30 minutes away. I wish hybrid was optional to be honest since I would get my work done before 5 and you get shamed if you leave before 5 at least how it was before the pandemic. I get hybrid make sense for you since you live in Manhattan and its close by commute. I heard people take hour commute from Long Island, NJ and Connecticut one way and that sounds terrible.
yeah hybrid from the burbs is insane
I was applying for jobs online late 2023, early 2024 and got a callback on roughly 40% of my applications (applied to 60-ish companies). Mostly FAANG-types and top startups. Insanely high rate that surprised me, especially because I’m mid-level in big tech terms.
Honestly, FAANG background + perfectly framing the impact of your work is an unlock. My experience wasn’t all that special. Landing an offer in this market though - totally different story lmao.
Good companies on resumes go a long way so props
Hopefully you landed something since then since that was a year ago. Also, maybe engineering isn’t your calling. Your acting / storytelling is great !
Thanks for the kind words! Coming soon!
I failed my first on-site at Asana in iceland and they rejected me but encouraged me to apply again later. Insane.. why not just take me and help me get to the shape I would need to be in to apply for this position later? I am highly skilled and sociable.
Its probably just a shit company.
Wow Iceland that’s crazy
Damn that's brutal, the market is fr cooked. Stay Positive though !
we roasting out here
That exact same thing happened to me a month ago.
Did the interview, killed it, got a follow up call and all looking good.
And then next thing I know the main Director of their team calls me and says we were really impressed during your interview. So impressed in fact I don't think it's going to work out. Your skills are beyond this position and you wouldn't be challenged and you would be bored.
So we have decided to go with somebody else less qualified.
I was fully willing to give them my skills for what they were paying. And they would rather pay the same for somebody who doesn't know the job.
😅
Asana is not worth that interview process. What in the world. Sorry you went through that.
I'm 15 years in and I've encountered the "too experienced" thing several times, starting fairly early in my career.
I've also watched hiring processes I've participated in go totally ass-backwards because people on the team don't want the best person for the role, but the best person according to their preferences and insecurities. It sounds silly, but people do amazing mental gymnastics to convince themselves that someone AMAZING for the role isn't quite the right "cultural fit".
I'm all for cultural fit. But the existing team shouldn't possess sole discretion to determine what that culture is, because you wind up with a stagnating, B-or-C-tier, monocrop team of mediocrity that can't handle working with people who don't make them feel great (or worse, intimidate them). Weird stuff.
Yeah hiring is broken for sure
@@namanhkapur I agree. I think it's in part due to how immature and unstructured our industry is. It's run by a lot of unprofessional, unskilled, unaware people who have managed to succeed despite these deficits. It instills an undeserved sense of competence.
Currently studying mathematical statistics and psychology. Even though I'm not an aspiring SWE, this market downturn has been eye-opening and I believe similar struggles are being experienced among statisticians and data analysts. Currently contemplating getting a license to teach mathematics just in case I have trouble finding a job in the private sector. Gl in your job-search Namnh!
Similar stuff happened to me with Canonical. I went through multiple interview stages: wrote a 3-page response to background questions, did a coding test, did a design test and attended 3 interviews over the course of a week. After each stage, I was told that I had done well and was selected to proceed to the next stage. The entire process took 2 MONTHS!
And then they reject me.
Ghosting should honestly be illegal no really, it is so disrespectful, a automated answer at least makes you know for you to go look elsewhere.
Hey! UI/UX Designer here… When applying online, did you tailor your resume and the cover letter for Asana (And other companies you applied for) to get the interview? Also, that’s messed up. Keep up, you’ll find your new home soon.
I didn’t, same resume everywhere
Thanks for sharing. I feel less of a PoS now
gotchu homie
Asana has joined my list of companies that I used to dream of working for (10 years ago while I was in Japan playing with Angular JS and Angular 2 Beta) but the hype is gone and the company is relying too much on its past glory. I'm not sure what you wanted to achieve there that has not already been done. But I guess salary and food are more important than an interesting tech stack and projects. My list includes Blizzard (I wanted to work on Starcraft 2 when I was a teenager but now I hate this company and every single spin off like Frost Giant).
You’re so right, I was in it for the perks - a gaming company would be lit but they don’t pay well except for Valve apparently they’re a secret club
Man that is so anoying, hope your doing good. Chin up I am sure you will find something :)
Thanks!!
5:05 , that's so real, I hate when my mom worries 😭
Indian moms love when the sons eat
Hey, silver lining - at least they told you that you're basically a senior dev, so in the future when you're applying to other roles you can apply to the more senior ones knowing that you're good enough, and demand the equivalent salary. Actually kind of wholesome cause most employers would LOVE for you to think you're worse than you actually are so they can pay you less. It does suck that they would pass up on a great candidate (just make an extra position if you find someone that's that good!) but outside of that, I feel like they did you a bit of favor with that.
I think this ''weird situation" is pretty common in the workplace
They call it "over-qualified"
They are not seeking for the job, instead, they're finding someone who's ok for this job
And your abilities surpassed their expectations and in fact
over-qualification is the insecurity for those seniors (In most case the good workers would seek for another role within a short period of time)
they don't want someone who are too good for the role
If there's a spectrum of 1-100, they're looking for someone who is like 65-75 and a bit higher
In simple words, they don't want someone who's good, because they assume that the good ones would leave the company very quick
And that's their evaluation for the risk of employing the great candidates, and most of the employers or seniors still take this standard as a guide
Damn didn’t know this was a thing
@@namanhkapur Your case is like common, but I'd say you told too much to your employers during your interview
So I'd say try not to stand out too much in the interview
Not always, but the scale of the company usually tells, find some reviews of that companies also would help you to evaluate their attitude towards their orientation of candidates choosing
(of course you should know a bit about the company before you go to their invitations)
To someone who are not too clear about the job market
Possessing a master degree after a bachelor degree is common,
but they also prefer someone with more job experience instead of academic papers
That's why we sometimes see a PhD candidates don't get a job interview
You either hide your highest degree record,
or go to a really great company for an interview. Don't see an in between.
I have a hard time believing Namanh doesn’t get dates
Priority queue and also something I haven't heard of called interval trees seem to be really popular interview questions right now.
yeah companies love them for some reason
200 junior/entry level jobs that i've applied to in the last 2 months. No bites yet. It honestly scares me the seeming depth of that interview because i would definitely have made my fair share of errors..but here's to hope that those who stick it out will be rewarded
If you're hired at a lower position, there is a risk of you leaving them when you find something that matches your level. That's the reason I can think of why they rejected you. Sucks tho.
Very similar situation happened to me at asana!! I aced all the interviews the recruiter told me everyone loved me but they didn't have a role for me anymore...
You're such a good story-teller! Have you thought of doing YT full-time (which seems like you're already doing...?)
thanks! that's the dream, but how do you think I get consistent viewership on my videos?
down to discuss more on insta! @namanhkapur
it's tough here. I was rejected before because I will be bored on the job, or I'm too much in one field and they want to have very specific other experience, or I have a PhD and too academic for job interviews.
Ah damn that’s brutal
Only when you have fixed route you can take the board.
I had a similar experience with a top product based ecom companies in India.
Completed 5 rounds of technical interview and then 1 HR round, Then salary discussion. And then documents were shared. Then the HR ghosted me for 3 weeks and finally after my multiple phone calls , informed that offer is on hold due to organisation restructuring. 🤷 Painful to wait for 1 month, just to hear this.
I will never apply to Asana lol thanks bro, and We all gonna make it homie
You be surprised this happens all the time you not the only one... 7 years ago this happened to me at a company I interviewed at an it was a mid level dev position but because they said I was at a senior level I couldn't get the mid level position.... and I'm like bro it's ok it's a $10,000 difference I don't care and they were like "No we usually like to pay our developers according to their level".... I'm like SMFH
hate that
What's this proxy for the database you created for Black Fridays?
Was it used for intercepting and routing/controlling how reads and writes occur? Maybe some smart caching? Beefed up logging?
Yes caching
That's fucked man. Stay Hard.
Definitely a manager felt threatened that you were a super high performing candidate for the role, that’s messed
I get irritated with the statement "You are overqualified for the role" :D Like I know but lowkey I know, so hire me already. hahaha
whole video just seemed so stressful, doesn't it bother you that there's that many steps? I get that the pay and benefits are great...but it's like they make you turn into a hamster in a rube goldberg machine to get all of that, and in the end there might not even be a reward that was promised, kinda like how they took the offer away from you.
always been like this unfortunately
@@namanhkapur I had a similar situation play out, got an offer and it was rescinded. Back to square one, but it's going to work out and I'm at least wiser to how crappy this industry can be sometimes.
The mental stress one goes through preparing for these interviews is crazy. They shouldn't let one go through these for nothing.
Facts
It's probably just because you do social media, lotsa liability bro
Lmao they got me
Even me I have been ghosted with a certain company in my city , and i personally didnt reach out to them because I just concluded maybe that is not the place i would like to work in (Because i always think that if they need me in their team then they will reach out).
Always reach out!
my advice to swe going foward, get into a domain and become an expert. general swe market is crazy competitive. Get into something like healthcare cancer or some corner of financial /quant engineering to differentiate yourself. Otherwise u r competing with literally everyone that can code worldwide
Question. I want to be like you in the future. I’m currently a junior engineer trying to make Yt videos, but also looking for another role. You have a successful channel, ie a user base of dedicated potential customers who WANT to support you, and obviously you have the engineering talent. Why not make your own product? You can build in public, receive detailed feedback, and also never have to deal with this bs. Plus imo way more fun. I would assume you generate enough money from this channel to do that? Plus you got the location
No matter how bad your situation is, I'd say some people are still worse off. God, I would love to have your skill as a software engineer, so I can already build my startups but being poor and not a software engineer, I can't build them. Even submitting an idea to incubator is not acceptable today, i need at least an MVP. I would really prefer that you just build your own startup, you don't need these companies. I wish you to have your own successful company instead.
Building yourself is hard but you’re right it’s the dream one day, this youtube channel is like a baby company
Im right where you are my dude. Everyone is ghosting. So many applications submitted.
It’s like dating in nyc
“It’s not you, it’s me”
There's something with this top k problem man, I was asked this in my coding round with Visa and needless to say I knocked it out of the park lol.
It’s a certified classic
Ahh the classic NYC attrition risk, Asana knew you were definitely overqualified and the city has too much opportunity for you to find a better job with better pay. If you took a lower position , you will probably jump ship before you actually make an impact in the company.
You are talking about this a whole year later? 🙄🙄🙄
Exposing them all
Damn man i really want you to get a job asap.
Stay tuned!
Dude you could have just left the “Object” with the security until you finish
lol true but I love it
Correct - you are not his friend. If the only message you sent him is "can you get me a job", you are using him and frankly just being a douche bag.
i'd do the same for someone even if i don't know them that well
In the comments last time you said you’d give us your LinkedIn story 🤔🤔🤔
Just you wait
Why do you need referral? Problems with Indian employment market
I don't like people like you who I consider self centered and amoral. But I have to say you tell a pretty engaging story. I started out hate watching and then I was rooting for you.
I don't have money to sue - I get it. I volunteered to intern but they violated the labour laws and i was out within 3 days
Goddamn
Getting a job sounds brutal right now man..
Weird out here for sure
Damn that sucks dude...looks like its apples and SPAM samiches for a while longer
lol back to the grind
your dream company from the sounds of it is a bottom of the barrle pos place to work and probably has some messed up toxic culture. be glad you didn't end up working there. it sucks when you're looking for a job, stay postive and always know you self worth.
They’re dope but sometimes it’s not meant to be
Nah nah NAH NAH
“You did too well we regret to inform you that we could not give you an offer…”
If that was deadasss I've lost hope for the tech industry
I don’t lie
I could understand it if it was a small company that really has to look at each dime and they didn't want to invest into a candidate that will leave soon-ish because of overqualification/better salary elsewhere. But such a big company, if they think you're L5, they can just easily pay you L5 salary. wtf lol
that's what i'm saying
12:41 Aced interview... What are they expecting from interview...? Reasons to not offer the position 😅
Welp! Bolt did the same to me twice 🤣
Stay positive
always
I think it is because of your social media presence.
Yeah saying you’re too good js a fake reason. Like you said they could’ve just hired you for that level.
i scratch my head thinking what happened? should you show up in tux and bow tie next time? hmm.... mystery
yeah for real, need to suit up
asana company❌ trolling company✅
sorry dude about my hate words about your dream company , that is reality
lmao love the emojis
Am I the only one who thinks these companies are becoming ridiculous with their interviews? Asana? Multiple rounds of technical interviews and so on? What the hell is going on? Not only that, but after all the rounds of interview they also had the guts to tell you "oh btw you are too good to work this position" Are they even serious?
always been multiple rounds but yeah def a drag
Cool Open sign
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They definitely hired someone cheaper and gave you a bull reason
sad
You dodge a bullet .