For anyone curious, the Six of Swords basically means "making a journey to somewhere better after great hardships" not "here are six swords, we are going to stab you with them now."
@@dancheasal4298yep, because making tarot arcana antagonists is a bad idea they need to bs the reason for the characters to fall for a bad idea even if it's not
Exactly what I was thinking like they literally misinterpreted all tarot cards meaning and it's really stupid. like the hanged man? oh you're gonna get hanged I wanted to watch it because I think the concept of tarots is cool even if the horror was shitty but that literally defies the point
I cackled in the theater when the old lady died. Her card literally said "your going to be killed by a bunch of swords" and literally 2 minutes later, she's killed by a bunch of swords. That's "People die when they're killed" levels of bad writing.
The thing that kills me with Charlie's description of that scene is... It's literally the wrong card. If they were going off the look of the card for the deaths, then Six of Swords is NOT the right one. They were looking for the Ten of Swords (Which shows a person being impaled with ten swords). One quick google search would've shown them what they were looking for. Six of Swords depicts someone traveling down a river with six swords in their boat. But hey, maybe the studio couldn't afford to shill out for another four swords. Also, just saying, the Death card doesn't even mean Death. The Tower would've been a closer meaning for that type of end.
As someone who reads tarot, there were SO many cooler ways that the cards and divination could have been used in a horror film. Could have been "Group of teens find a tarot deck at summer camp that predict an occult mass murder, and now they have to try and stop it," or "Family moves to a new house and find a tarot deck, whose predictions are the only thing preventing them from being caught by the entity that ALSO haunts the house." But no, they went with "The cards will predict your death in the most literal way possible, at the hands of a supernatural entity based on a Major Arcana." Fucking Tarot Mascot Horror. JFC.
Honestly a cool way to handle this, while keeping the B-movie murder horror vibe, would be to make them draw 3, then try to figure out which one will manifest literally, while having to follow the advice of the others. Say Chad draws a reversed fool, death, and Hierophant. Chad thinks death is the literal one, so starts acting like a dick to everyone because he thinks he'll spontaneously die. In a cruel twist, death represented his girlfriend breaking up with him. Hierophant manifests as, I dunno, the lazy route of a monster taking him away to force a "marriage." Ergo killing him. But that wouldn't print money for these studios, so why even try?
That's even more unrealistic than the movie. Tarot cards are not specific enough for that. Not to mention they would have to google every card's meaning and there are many versions of that on the net (unless there was some book for this particular deck conveniently lying about). And if they did the 12 houses properly and included minor arcana... well, that's a task for the whole night.
@@odsasadolasa1 Tarot cards arent specific because they aren't real. At least in the sense of actually being able to predict things. We're talking about movies here, man. Logic gets stretched all the time, and both ideas in the comment above are still FAR better than the original script.
I think the ONLY thing that’s upsetting is, if I’m not mistaken, Trevor Henderson (creator of siren head and other cool monsters) did the monster design for the movie and was really happy to finally have his work in a film. Then it turns out to be the biggest dumpster fire. So I feel bad for the guy
Yep, that's what I came here to post. From what I can see, the monster design is actually pretty cool. A shame the movie looked as boring and formulaic as the trailer. Hopefully he'll get another shot sometime, or this film will somehow become a cult classic in 20yrs lol
You should never pay for a movie ticket if you're going into the movie with low expectations. Nobody likes a humbug who is going to ruin the movie for everybody else in the theater by critiquing it at every turn. That's how you end up getting jumped when the movie's over.
The thing that irks me most is that The Tarot is a very interesting premise for a horror movie if it followed a sort of twisted "Fool's Journey." The Major Arcana of Tarot are meant to represent someone's journey of self discovery, where they start innocent and carefree as The Fool, face a major change in their lives at Death, and eventually claim The World, which represents completeness and closure and someone having a full understanding of themselves. Given how the Major Arcana all have reversed meanings to represent negative aspects of the cards, you could make a sort of reversed Fool's Journey, where the protagonist faces dire circumstances in their life as a result of the reading and eventually gets an unfulfilling ending. There's so much potential with that structure alone yet instead they went with "this card represents the monster that will kill you".
I absolutely agree with you and I like your thinking. I also think that tarot (both the game itself and its use as a means of fortune telling) has a lot of potential for horror movies. I really think the biggest problem in this movie was the script. I liked the cards' design and their respective characters', and I believe the witchcraft origin story for the tarot deck is kind of original, but the script is so simplistic and the actors here are so badly unbelievable it's hard for me to like this movie...
>Draws The Fool >Hunted by a clown I'm not even a Tarot guy, but I at least have played a moderate amount of Persona to go "that's not even what the fuck that means, why did you take that so literally."
@@paperluigi6132cause the fool is literally the representation of potential, and Iggy’s stand utilized sand to create constructs of limitless potential
I think "literally" they are just cards. You don't have to work too hard to part a fool with money and this industry is built around scamming fools and vulnerable people.
Dude I just saw it today, and straight up...the guy in front of us fell asleep and slept through almost the whole movie. The couple behind us, I heard her say 'hey you fell asleep' to the guy next to her. And then I dozed off for like a minute in the middle. Not even joking lol
@@stetsoncrobison in that case I think Charlie should add into his moist meter that it's a great cure for insomnia, should bring it up to at least a 15 percent.
this but my brother during five nights at freddys. Then he proceeded to gaslight me saying we went to that film because of me even though he offered it
I love how they try to do the prophecy twist bit, but the prophecy is just "you get what you want, but there's a weird guy. Watch out for the weird guy." And the twist is the weird guy kills you. It's like saying "you'll become unfathomably rich but watch out for Jason" and the twist is that Jason from Friday the 13th shows up. That's not a twist!
Let's make a horror film where the point of the whole haunting/harassment is to drive people to do exactly that, and they think they won but they actually freed the demon.
@@LiminallyYoursI think there's already a few movies that have done that and they usually end with the MC dying or distracting them with a better deal
Its still way better the animated Netflix Marmaduke movie. I watched that as a joke and I got physically sick watching it lol. No but really it's so bad It's the only movie of 100s iv seen that I think deserves a negative rating. People would stop trying to leave north Korea if watching it on repeat until you die of old age was the punishment. I really did throw up when I watched it also. That was a first.
The moment I saw The Fool card be used so incorrectly in the trailer already made me assume this was gonna be ass. A quick word to all writers out there: If you don't know how something works, do some research on it, if you can't even be bothered to do that, DON'T PUT IT IN YOUR STORY. I feel like the general opinion that most studios have is "The consumer is an idiot/doesn't know what they want, so we can get away with being incorrect about a lot of stuff." This is just a bad way of thinking. As an artist, writer, content creator, or ANYTHING else, always assume your audience is as smart as you are and deliver the best work you can, you'll be surprised about what your audience manages to catch.
Anyone who knows even just the basics of tarot knows how wrong all of it is. Like the guy didn't even do a google search! Just looked at the pictures and said yeah that's about right!
"You really shouldn't talk bad about their movie, it can hurt them financially. Just wait for Tarot 2, they just need a little more time to work on things."
Why don't you go out and direct a better movie then, tough guy? Also, don't make jokes about homeless people. You never know what can happen in life. Maybe someday you'll fall on hard times and need government assistance.
@@RobbieStacks90 you seem to miss the point of my comment there bud. Much like the director and actors of the film missed the point of making an entertaining and well-written production.
For any writers or directors out there or people who wanna work in the horror genre the timing for a jumpscare goes 1-2-3. 1. Set up your monster/expectations for the scare 2. Subvert and kill the expectations of a scare for your audience 3. When they are no longer expecting the scare bring it at FULL FORCE.
Or you could literally pull a jump scare out of nowhere with no build up whatsoever and could get a similar result. It's just that jump scares in general are really hard to pull off as you need to do them with a bit of respect for it or else people will just roll their eyes and find it annoying more than anything.
@@yapgoat Here's the problem, though. The types of movies that do use random jump scares without any warning or buildup generally do it WAY TOO OFTEN. Because it's such an easy jump scare to pull off, they throw in 20+ in the movie, and by the end you're just rolling your eyes because you've already seen the monster 20+ times. It's what makes the build up scares so special - the shlocky, boring, generic horror movies that get pumped out on a monthly basis never pull them off successfully, so getting a genuinely good, tense buildup that doesn't fall flat on its face ends up making for a fantastic moment. My point is, while the random jump scares get more of a primordial reaction out of the audience, the low cost of entry makes it so available that it's mostly the directing hacks using them. It doesn't *need* to be that way, but I suppose I mainly brought that up to point out that the methodology isn't inherently flawed or lazy - it's just often used in lazy ways
My co-worker was gushing about how great this movie was. And she was telling my friend, who loves movies all together, to watch it. I hope it's not too late to save him.
The noise Charlie made at 12:43 reminded me of when SpongeBob had bad breath and said to the guy at the movie theater “excuse me sir, I hope my horrible ugliness won’t be a distraction to you” and the guy said “not at all, boy - HUEEHHUEEEH”
The fact that tarot was so trash is honestly motivation for me and anyone who wants to go into film. Like if the goobers behind tarot and moonfall could make those movies reality and get away with it then what is stopping you or me from going out there and making actually works of art/masterpieces.
I was thinking the same , am a major in film and I always get people telling me your not gonna be able to make your films but if these movies are made it gives me hope
I use my wife as a horror movie prediction. Showed the trailer to my wife: My Wife: ...thats not even how tarot cards work/are. *dumb* Me: yep its gonna flop And behold, 5% on rotten tomatoes!
I know what you meant. The filmmakers actually avoided showing what would be considered proper tarot readings which begs the question as to why they'd use the premise at all. It's not like the Ouija movies showed the characters not using the spiritboard in the recommended way.
so for those unaware, tarot decks have two parts, the major and minor arcana, the major arcana are the cards you know, the fool, the world, the star etc. the minor arcana are 4 suits, the swords, the cups, the pentacles, and the wands, each suit has the pip cards, 1(ace)-10 and 4 face cards, the king, the queen, the knight, and the page. Every single minor arcana also has a meaning in tarot readings the six of swords is the path of transitions, it's upright is about embracing the change, letting go of baggage, or healing, it's reversed is about an internal change, unfinished business, or being resistant to a change. It does not mean, "you're gonna get stabbed by six swords"
10:50 - the frustration behind that "And then, even after that" is the iconic "I hate this so much that I just remembered something else you will not believe and will not stop until you know it" vibe.
Doesn’t he understand companies are owed people’s time and money for just making a product, regardless of quality? His review could influence people’s spending choices!!😢😢😢😢😢😢 So unfair!
@@grassqwqI was waiting for this comment. I’m so tired of these kinds of movies man. At least make it a self fulfilling prophecy where it’s like- it gives them advice but their fear is what makes them take paranoid steps to hide and doubt others and so they end up locking in and harming themselves, but even then, it isn’t tarot’s cards’s fault because it will warn you not to act up and tell you why 😭
I'm not necessarily *trying* to be an asshole, but... Are you of the opinion that knowing how to read tarot cards is all that different from just making random stuff up? What I mean is... Do you actually believe they can tell the future/give unique insights/whatever?
Reminds me of paranormal activity where the few people there and my group of friends were loudly shit talking the movie the entire time. But the cherry on top was a dude standing up as the lights came on yelling YO THAT MOVIE WAS SOME BALLS. Just that phrase made that entire experience worth it
Genuinely wtf was the point of shoving Tarot Cards into the movie? I swear all of the monsters barely resembled the things they were supposed to represent, there was no symbolism, and most people don’t even know about just the Major Arcana, much less the rest of the Tarot deck. It made no sense?
Well, the whole "catholic horror" thing is getting severely overused and played out at this point, so they probably just thought "what religious/spiritual concept can we abuse this time to carry our dumb story without offending a large audience." Mark this comment: I bet a horror movie centered around astrology will come out in the next 2-3 years lol
@@AngryAlfonse I'll bet with you on that. Also what about one where people get killed with crystals? They're pointy and could be made spooky, ice queen style. As for abusing spiritual concepts, I am seriously wondering whether the horror narrative around tarot in this film may rather take inspiration from (specifically) the way Christian apologists got very loud about divination being demonic in the past like 5 years. It echoes all their points. It's kind of a bad PSA, except they should have been saved by Jesus at the end.
@@LiminallyYours Basically the main character is always the fool arcana, and the friends you make in the story are named after different arcana like the lovers, death, hanged man, hierophant, etc.
Honestly, they all could’ve been really interesting, like the Fool could’ve just been anything, Death could’ve been an extreme change in someone’s life, so much so that they just fall apart. The Hermit could’ve been the guy just forcing the guy to be alone after he got all the money.
If Sony had been smart about it, they would have released Tarot before Madame Web so that at least critics could say Madame Web isn't the worst Sony movie this year. Also, this feels like something even Blumhouse passed over. Either that or they weren't asked first.
3:05 "unironically, matt and I's acting in the green screen merch shoots is better than anything you'll find in tarot" I mean, you can't expect these actors to compete with the star of hunger games.
As someone who casually reads tarot for fun, this is hilarious. Both the usage of tarots in the movie and the way Charlie calls the readings "horoscopes" 😭
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The annoying thing is that with a competent writer and good director this idea could actually be kind of cool. Like the premise sounds interesting enough if done right, unfortunately it was not done right
And since tarot cards are really popular right now, it's the perfect time for a movie like this to be made. How does someone fumble the ball like this? An evil zodiac movie would also be a good idea since astrology is trendy too, but they'll just waste that opportunity too. 🙄
I saw one from our local school. The house was haunted, so the girl says “this is my house now, you need to leave” and the ghost leaves! Because they’re respectful that way. They were very proud of their work.
This doesn’t even sound like Tarot Cards, more of those weird star things TikTok does. Which is a shame since a movie based on Tarot cards might be sick, like your card determines the way you die or if you live The Hanged Man is a hanging, The Tower is falling, The Lovers is either you were killed by your lover or spared, The Chariot is run over, etc etc
That's what happens, which isn't how Tarot works. Hanged Man isn't literally a hanging, the Hanged Man isn't even hanging by his neck, the ENTIRE point is that he's hanging by his legs upside down. Death isn't actually Death, the Devil isn't actually the Devil, but the movie takes it all super literally in a really corny way. It's tragic how much it felt like they had done a tone of research for how horoscopes and divination readings work, and yet still had no idea what the fuck they meant.
@@aeashenemby I suppose, but I feel like if the cards had a more meaning behind them? My original post didn’t actually portray it right, so I only put the bare minimum, so if something like a really odd string of events, that eventually connects to the card you drew, in one way or another
Useless information here, but the 6 of Swords is part of the minor arcana. There's 4 different types in the minor arcana: swords, cups, pentacles, and wands. The minor arcana cards are numbered 1-10, and also have Page, Knight, King and Queen. Supposedly the minor arcana is where we got regular playing cards from. The High Priestess, The Hanged Man, and Death are all the major arcana.
What baffles me is they got Trevor Henderson the famous and highly talent artist most known for creating siren head, cartoon cat, long horse and other internet monsters to design the creators for this movie How they got someone with his talent on board is beyond me
In 2022, I had a series of N-Stemi incidents- essentially mini-heart attacks that presented as acute indigestion- which eventually culminated in a 4x bypass. These got progressively worse in pain level and duration, and I knew I'd have to eventually get over my "guy-ness" (i.e., everything will just go away if we wait long enough) and go to the ER, or conversely, eventually drop dead. So literally the week before I did finally go to the hospital I had a particularly severe occurrence as I was watching "Moonfall" on Netflix... And I thought, "OMG please please please don't let this be the last movie I see before I die..." It really was that hilariously awful.
Moonfall was one of the movies I’ve ever watched. My favourite part is the flooding scene when they start drowning in knee deep water, and the dude dives in to save him except it’s knee deep water so he can’t just dive in and instead sort of flops down into it then has to perform the acting of a lifetime to make us believe he’s actually swimming in the knee deep water. What makes it better is you can _see the stairs through the water_ and can tell it’s like… 3, 4 stairs deep? It is BARELY knee deep.
I couldn't help but think of a comedic turn when you said she drew the card of Six Swords - I just imagine the response from one of the guys screaming, "The Swords of Revealing Light?!"
What pisses me off about horror from Hollywood is it is the one genre that has so many great short films to take from. Like so many people making short horror films that could used the investments.
It's adapted from a bad horror novel from the 90s & it completely discards even most of that plot where a serial killer is murdering people in ways consistent with their horoscope.
FYI from what I learned you can use anyone's Tarot deck, but your own deck is supposed to be a gift from someone else. You're just not supposed to go out and buy a deck for yourself even if you really like the artwork.
Yeah but a deck that's been used before and might have bad vibes you're meant to leave it under the full moon for a night to cleanse it. Anyway I buy my own decks bc like who is gonna give me one... Some kind of tarot fairy?
@@missquinberly hahaha! I definitely understand your reasoning. It was easier for me, because the little shop I used to work at sold decks, and two of my elder witchy coworkers saw me looking through the major arcana of some decks I liked the look of, and bought them for me (with the 40% employee discount). And prior to that even my mother had occult interests before I was born, so she gifted me her classic Rider-Waite deck once I was old enough. But in your shoes I know I'd probably do the same. Lol
Honestly, this was like an anti-movie. This is like the movie you put on when you’re having boring sex and you need some noise to break the awkwardness. This is the movie you put on when you have all your friends over to play card games that you all glance at while awaiting your turn but never truly watch for more than 30 seconds.
Now I’m not incredibly knowledgable about Tarot (I don’t have them memorized) but I own some decks, have given readings, and have received readings, buuuut… 1) your zodiac doesn’t have anything to do with tarot readings, you shuffle and place your cards, and based on the order, position, and kind of card you can gain some insights into the question you asked while shuffling. 2) there are a TON of cards in a tarot deck. 78, and only 22 are the major arcana (the fool, magician, world, etc). The rest are minor arcana (wands, cups, swords, pentacles). The odds of everyone getting a SPECIFIC major arcana card are SLIM! There are readings I’ve done/gotten where no major arcana shows up, and some where multiple do. For only ONE to show in a reading is NOT HOW IT WORKS! Probability says NO! ITS MATH!!! I don’t think the makers of this movie have used tarot decks. PS: to answer your question Charlie about the 6 of swords, the minor arcana has 4 suits (swords, cups, wands/staffs, pentacles/coins) and each suit has an ace(one)-10, a page, knight, queen, and king. It’s a lot like playing cards, and you can do divination with those too. So each suit has 14 cards, each suit means something (like a genre: pentacles usually align with wealth) and each number/face card in the suit has a more precise meaning. The major arcana cards have BIG sweeping meanings.
@@Kingbeanxx I guess? There’s no Jack in the minor arcana, but a page, knight, then queen and king. So you’d have to go through and remove all the pages or knights so you’d have the right amount of cards per suit. But ya, you could. The suits would be different, and the work it’d take to go through and remove the major arcana and the extra face card of the suits would be annoying, so I’m not sure why you would though.
Aaaah, that genuinely sucks. I was really looking forward to this one because I saw that the monster designs were done by Trevor Henderson - the guy who made Sirenhead, among many other cool as hell monsters. Was planning on watching it just for that, even though the plot looked super generic based on the trailer. Hope Trevor doesn't get any hate for it.
Moonfall broke my brain. It gets stupider and stupider as it progresses. I made it to the Moon landing. I then had to go for a long Gump like self-contemplating walk. I walked long and far.
There was a Tales from the Darkside episode on a tarot deck card ruining lives. Like a lady whose a huckster misinterprets a card so often that it starts f-cking up people's lives after their reading, including the scam artist. People should go find that.
just for fun one time i looked into what some different tarot cards actually meant and im pretty sure that what just about all these cards ended up doing in the movie was completely unrelated to what they supposedly mean irl ex (assuming im remembering correctly): the fool card has nothing to do with being "bullheaded and making rash decisions," its mostly about being inexperienced. death also has almost nothing to do with actual death, it's mostly about ego death and the recreation of your personality. The swords also have nothing to do with actual swords, they represent intellect or emotions.
Wasn’t that line for the Taurus and not the actual card itself? Plus I keep seeing people say the cards were to literal but wasn’t the whole point being that they’re haunted by a scorned woman so now she just shapeshifts into the images on the cards and kill them however the MC said some bs like “water under the bridge” “wrong track” and “climbing the ladder”. At least that’s how I was interpreting it.
@@stormie8009 Yeah, but like... that's just not how tarot works. If they wanted to do that concept, I'm sure they could've executed in a more clever way instead of making the cards literal, don't you think?
@@OrionDawn15 it’s literally a generic horror movie with a witch cursing some tarot cards,I doubt they wanted to be “literal” like most generic horror movies; it’s mostly a cash grab at best🤷♀️ people should watch these horror movies for the fun and thrill not for the historical accuracy of it unless it’s based off a true story. Edit: I mean Imagine people who are die hard doll fans complaining about Chucky or even the voodoo community since Chucky literally used voodoo to curse the doll unless I’m mistaken 😭 it’s just annoying to see the complaints on something that if you look at it as a generic horror movie isn’t that terrible but most just can’t because they wanted a accurate tarot movie which wouldn’t even happen as a horror movie since irl tarot isn’t horror filled at all unless you’re superstitious!
I have not seen this movie, but if it has anything to do with tarot cards, I'm betting it breaks rule #1 of tarot cards. The death card doesn't mean you or someone you know is gonna die. It means there's change coming. So if some tarot reader in this movie slaps down the death card and the music gets all dramatic and it turns out the card caused people to die, understand that that's actually MORE bullsh-t than tarot card readings. Because even tarot card readers understand the rules. Okay yeah the climax is the main character draws death on the evil ghost and it destroys the ghost. God damn it.
My friend took me to this for her birthday and it was so much worse than I expected. Just sat there with a blank face the whole time, not even a single scare
10:20 pisses me off Why do movies make characters give up so quickly My brother defends it “oh you think you can handle but you can’t” Have someone for once not give into great so easily. FIGHT IT
When I first saw anything about this movie, I immediately went “Ugh, that’s not how tarot is at all… Why can’t movies like this do even the slightest amount of research?” Then, I learned that Trevor Henderson came up with the creature design and saw a longer trailer that actually made me feel slightly tempted to actually see the movie. I was hoping that it would be a story about some sort of curse or a warped/evil deck of cards and that the creature design + cool kills would carry the whole movie so it sucks that it turned out so shitty. I really hope that Trevor Henderson ends up doing designs for more things in the future, though.
I work at a movie theater, and while I only started recently and only worked two days so far, I’ve scanned two groups’ tickets for Tarot at the ticket stand, and I’ve seen people buy/sold people/heard people buy tickets to Tarot twice, in total, I’ve only heard of 4 groups getting tickets to tarot over the course of 16 hours.
For anyone curious, the Six of Swords basically means "making a journey to somewhere better after great hardships" not "here are six swords, we are going to stab you with them now."
that kind of tracks because at least you don't have to be part of the terrible movie after you get taken out
It's true, the person died and left the cast!11!!1
Now I imagine them bullshitting that as You face hardship of death but then you go to heaven !
@@dancheasal4298yep, because making tarot arcana antagonists is a bad idea they need to bs the reason for the characters to fall for a bad idea even if it's not
Exactly what I was thinking like they literally misinterpreted all tarot cards meaning and it's really stupid. like the hanged man? oh you're gonna get hanged
I wanted to watch it because I think the concept of tarots is cool even if the horror was shitty but that literally defies the point
I cackled in the theater when the old lady died. Her card literally said "your going to be killed by a bunch of swords" and literally 2 minutes later, she's killed by a bunch of swords. That's "People die when they're killed" levels of bad writing.
The thing that kills me with Charlie's description of that scene is... It's literally the wrong card. If they were going off the look of the card for the deaths, then Six of Swords is NOT the right one. They were looking for the Ten of Swords (Which shows a person being impaled with ten swords). One quick google search would've shown them what they were looking for. Six of Swords depicts someone traveling down a river with six swords in their boat. But hey, maybe the studio couldn't afford to shill out for another four swords.
Also, just saying, the Death card doesn't even mean Death. The Tower would've been a closer meaning for that type of end.
@@shaelynmartin1996who cares? The movie blows
was the grammar error included?
Lmao reminds of when I got a reading done and as soon as the ten of swords got drawn I was like “welp guess that’s it. I’m gonna die by many swords”.
@@SpazzkidKamI care, but only because understanding the level of failure this movie reaches is so entertaining 😂
As someone who reads tarot, there were SO many cooler ways that the cards and divination could have been used in a horror film. Could have been "Group of teens find a tarot deck at summer camp that predict an occult mass murder, and now they have to try and stop it," or "Family moves to a new house and find a tarot deck, whose predictions are the only thing preventing them from being caught by the entity that ALSO haunts the house."
But no, they went with "The cards will predict your death in the most literal way possible, at the hands of a supernatural entity based on a Major Arcana." Fucking Tarot Mascot Horror. JFC.
As someone who also does Tarot readings, I think I'd rather watch your film lol
Honestly a cool way to handle this, while keeping the B-movie murder horror vibe, would be to make them draw 3, then try to figure out which one will manifest literally, while having to follow the advice of the others.
Say Chad draws a reversed fool, death, and Hierophant. Chad thinks death is the literal one, so starts acting like a dick to everyone because he thinks he'll spontaneously die. In a cruel twist, death represented his girlfriend breaking up with him. Hierophant manifests as, I dunno, the lazy route of a monster taking him away to force a "marriage." Ergo killing him.
But that wouldn't print money for these studios, so why even try?
That's even more unrealistic than the movie. Tarot cards are not specific enough for that. Not to mention they would have to google every card's meaning and there are many versions of that on the net (unless there was some book for this particular deck conveniently lying about). And if they did the 12 houses properly and included minor arcana... well, that's a task for the whole night.
Make this film. Sounds like something Lovecraft/mystery and I love it.
@@odsasadolasa1 Tarot cards arent specific because they aren't real. At least in the sense of actually being able to predict things. We're talking about movies here, man. Logic gets stretched all the time, and both ideas in the comment above are still FAR better than the original script.
I think the ONLY thing that’s upsetting is, if I’m not mistaken, Trevor Henderson (creator of siren head and other cool monsters) did the monster design for the movie and was really happy to finally have his work in a film. Then it turns out to be the biggest dumpster fire. So I feel bad for the guy
That's literally the only reason I had any interest in this film, to be completely honest. Shame, really.
Wait Trevor worked on this movie? Poor dude is so talented but first the content farms took his most popular creations and now this
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Yep, that's what I came here to post. From what I can see, the monster design is actually pretty cool. A shame the movie looked as boring and formulaic as the trailer. Hopefully he'll get another shot sometime, or this film will somehow become a cult classic in 20yrs lol
@@klausdalang4936I'm starting to think you people are bots too
I like how you went into the movie with the lowest expectations and still came out feeling surprised by how bad it is.
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And in this case the ratings are the tarot
You should never pay for a movie ticket if you're going into the movie with low expectations. Nobody likes a humbug who is going to ruin the movie for everybody else in the theater by critiquing it at every turn. That's how you end up getting jumped when the movie's over.
Does reporting the bots even do anything or what
I feel asleep in the movie theater while I was watching it
The thing that irks me most is that The Tarot is a very interesting premise for a horror movie if it followed a sort of twisted "Fool's Journey." The Major Arcana of Tarot are meant to represent someone's journey of self discovery, where they start innocent and carefree as The Fool, face a major change in their lives at Death, and eventually claim The World, which represents completeness and closure and someone having a full understanding of themselves. Given how the Major Arcana all have reversed meanings to represent negative aspects of the cards, you could make a sort of reversed Fool's Journey, where the protagonist faces dire circumstances in their life as a result of the reading and eventually gets an unfulfilling ending. There's so much potential with that structure alone yet instead they went with "this card represents the monster that will kill you".
Yes YES!!!!
its a really cool structure and theres games that do it (eg persona 3) and its super cool honestly
im pretty sure you put more thought, care, and passion into that comment than they put in the entire movie
I absolutely agree with you and I like your thinking. I also think that tarot (both the game itself and its use as a means of fortune telling) has a lot of potential for horror movies. I really think the biggest problem in this movie was the script. I liked the cards' design and their respective characters', and I believe the witchcraft origin story for the tarot deck is kind of original, but the script is so simplistic and the actors here are so badly unbelievable it's hard for me to like this movie...
I still wonder... everyone was killed by Major Arcana cards, while the woman was killed by the 6 of swords... was it the ghost being mean? 😂
5% on rotten tomatoes is diabolical 💀
@itz_me_aziza_21 The fuck does this even mean?
Edit: Guys I knew it was a bot from the start, seriously.
Second edit: The bot is more. We have won
@@dr.drakofly756 It means you got baited by a bot.
@@dr.drakofly756 do not question the ways of the wise one
@@krixtorei I know it's a bot dude, just weird
5% over 6/10 isn't that bad
>Draws The Fool
>Hunted by a clown
I'm not even a Tarot guy, but I at least have played a moderate amount of Persona to go "that's not even what the fuck that means, why did you take that so literally."
> draws the fool
> teleport back to starting room
> wtf who's out here binding my isaacs
Even JoJo got the Fool right with how Iggy’s Stand ability works.
@@paperluigi6132cause the fool is literally the representation of potential, and Iggy’s stand utilized sand to create constructs of limitless potential
when i pull the fool card and igor starts chasing me
> Scan The Fool in Cyberpunk 2077
> huh.mp3
> Ozob Bozo immediately teleports behind me
Nothing personnel, kid
> blows me up tae fuck
tarot cards are literally just for finding a different perspective to a situation lmao, they're not fortune cookies.
Now, FORTUNE COOKIES are scary!
@@1WEareBUFO1 opening a fortune cookie that just says “behind you!!! there’s a guy with a knife!!! look out!!!”
I think "literally" they are just cards. You don't have to work too hard to part a fool with money and this industry is built around scamming fools and vulnerable people.
Fun fact, I saw this in theaters, fell asleep, woke up near the end, and left early.
"And left early" 😭😭😭
Dude I just saw it today, and straight up...the guy in front of us fell asleep and slept through almost the whole movie. The couple behind us, I heard her say 'hey you fell asleep' to the guy next to her. And then I dozed off for like a minute in the middle. Not even joking lol
@@stetsoncrobison in that case I think Charlie should add into his moist meter that it's a great cure for insomnia, should bring it up to at least a 15 percent.
this but my brother during five nights at freddys. Then he proceeded to gaslight me saying we went to that film because of me even though he offered it
Even night swim looks better then this bruh
I love how they try to do the prophecy twist bit, but the prophecy is just "you get what you want, but there's a weird guy. Watch out for the weird guy." And the twist is the weird guy kills you. It's like saying "you'll become unfathomably rich but watch out for Jason" and the twist is that Jason from Friday the 13th shows up. That's not a twist!
it's like that eternal snail
I feel like they’re trying to twist the twist, but at that point they’re just playing it straight.
What in the sam hell is that twist?
Someone becoming a millionaire but the downside is having to deal with jason vanhoores coming after them sounds like a way better movie tbh lmao
@@taevantox Honestly yeah. Somehow the source of the fortune attracts Jason. Makes more sense than this.
Apparently the monster designs and costumes were actually done by Trevor Henderson. Talk about absolutely wasted potential.
Joe Biden as a president was wasted potential to
NO
you cannot be serious
What's so disappointing is that most horror movies nowadays can be solved by either breaking/burning cursed items or simply WALKING AWAY
Let's make a horror film where the point of the whole haunting/harassment is to drive people to do exactly that, and they think they won but they actually freed the demon.
@@LiminallyYours and then the real horror starts
@@LiminallyYoursI think there's already a few movies that have done that and they usually end with the MC dying or distracting them with a better deal
Its still way better the animated Netflix Marmaduke movie. I watched that as a joke and I got physically sick watching it lol.
No but really it's so bad It's the only movie of 100s iv seen that I think deserves a negative rating.
People would stop trying to leave north Korea if watching it on repeat until you die of old age was the punishment. I really did throw up when I watched it also. That was a first.
@@nonamex6536 Oh my god. The only reason I know about Marmaduke is Danny Gonzalez and seeing this acid trip mentioned here feels surreal.
The "death" card in tarot doesn't even represent death, it represents change
Wait how? I’m genuinely curious, how can death represent chance?
@@OneAndOnlyRosspotential, rebirth, starting over, kinda like shedding ur old skin to evolve
@ ohhhhh like killing your old self to make way for the new self?
@@OneAndOnlyRoss death is represented by the tower card btw
i mean they literally think the 6 of swords card means getting stabbed by 6 swords
The moment I saw The Fool card be used so incorrectly in the trailer already made me assume this was gonna be ass. A quick word to all writers out there: If you don't know how something works, do some research on it, if you can't even be bothered to do that, DON'T PUT IT IN YOUR STORY.
I feel like the general opinion that most studios have is "The consumer is an idiot/doesn't know what they want, so we can get away with being incorrect about a lot of stuff." This is just a bad way of thinking. As an artist, writer, content creator, or ANYTHING else, always assume your audience is as smart as you are and deliver the best work you can, you'll be surprised about what your audience manages to catch.
I knew it was gonna be ass as soon as I saw the name of the movie 🤣 These horror movie directors never get it right
Maybe they did think the viewer was as smart as them, but they didn't feel very smart.
@@1WEareBUFO1 So pretentious AND self conscious. That's a hell of a combo
Anyone who knows even just the basics of tarot knows how wrong all of it is. Like the guy didn't even do a google search! Just looked at the pictures and said yeah that's about right!
The IRS sentenced me to two showings of TAROT for not paying my taxes
A fate worse than death.
I’d rather just go to prison for 50 years
TWO? RIP bro
Bro, sue. That's an 8th amendment violation lol.
@@HelloIamCloudy i was gonna say lmao that's cruel and unusual punishment
"You really shouldn't talk bad about their movie, it can hurt them financially. Just wait for Tarot 2, they just need a little more time to work on things."
do you not see one of Charlie's recent videos
@@nilpyc307 he saw it
@@nilpyc307 chat member was parodying the people who unironically say that
@@nilpyc307low iq
@@nilpyc307brothuh it’s in “quotations”
I love the part where the villain said "It's Tarot Time!"
And started taroting all over the place.
You know shit is bad when Velma has a higher rating
😭😭😭😭😭😭
How do they even surpass that, Velma got 23% and Tarot got 5!
Kinda deserved. At least Velma has the decency to kill its MC in a funny way.
@Comedybomb-nh4st 5%???????
@@kgmc29 ????????
5% is a good number for unemployment but terrible for a rating of a supposed “blockbuster”.
Why don't you go out and direct a better movie then, tough guy? Also, don't make jokes about homeless people. You never know what can happen in life. Maybe someday you'll fall on hard times and need government assistance.
@@RobbieStacks90unemployment and homeless aren’t the same
@@RobbieStacks90ok bot
@@RobbieStacks90 you seem to miss the point of my comment there bud. Much like the director and actors of the film missed the point of making an entertaining and well-written production.
@@ericsmith4644haha....got em!!
For any writers or directors out there or people who wanna work in the horror genre the timing for a jumpscare goes 1-2-3. 1. Set up your monster/expectations for the scare 2. Subvert and kill the expectations of a scare for your audience 3. When they are no longer expecting the scare bring it at FULL FORCE.
Or you could literally pull a jump scare out of nowhere with no build up whatsoever and could get a similar result. It's just that jump scares in general are really hard to pull off as you need to do them with a bit of respect for it or else people will just roll their eyes and find it annoying more than anything.
@@superderfmen that’s true as well, it really does all rely on having respect for your monster/jumpscare
@@superderfmentbh if i was watching a horror movie and a jumpscare happened no build it or anything i would probably shit myself
@@yapgoat Here's the problem, though. The types of movies that do use random jump scares without any warning or buildup generally do it WAY TOO OFTEN. Because it's such an easy jump scare to pull off, they throw in 20+ in the movie, and by the end you're just rolling your eyes because you've already seen the monster 20+ times. It's what makes the build up scares so special - the shlocky, boring, generic horror movies that get pumped out on a monthly basis never pull them off successfully, so getting a genuinely good, tense buildup that doesn't fall flat on its face ends up making for a fantastic moment.
My point is, while the random jump scares get more of a primordial reaction out of the audience, the low cost of entry makes it so available that it's mostly the directing hacks using them. It doesn't *need* to be that way, but I suppose I mainly brought that up to point out that the methodology isn't inherently flawed or lazy - it's just often used in lazy ways
A friend asked me if I wanted to go see Tarot with them. My immediate response was, did I do something wrong?
Redditor ass response
get this guy on a comedy stage
As bad as tarot may be Its always fun to critique a movie with friends 😂
Omg you are such an alpha for saying that 🤯 😍
what a sigma
Not even the CEO of sex could save this film
@@p-__as someone who has personally smelled Charlie’s farts I highly doubt that
@@PaldeanWoopaI legit lost half my face
@paldean dont engage the bots just report for spam please
@@olic7266 I do do report them a few times when I stumble upon them like this guy, just trying to say sum funny
@@PaldeanWoopa thats a nice argument senator, why dont you back it up with a source
My co-worker was gushing about how great this movie was. And she was telling my friend, who loves movies all together, to watch it. I hope it's not too late to save him.
Sounds like my former high school classmates. If they said a movie was good, there's probably an 80% chance it's awful.
The noise Charlie made at 12:43 reminded me of when SpongeBob had bad breath and said to the guy at the movie theater “excuse me sir, I hope my horrible ugliness won’t be a distraction to you” and the guy said “not at all, boy - HUEEHHUEEEH”
Deuueaugh!
You know its bad when charlie feels embarrassed
Exactly, like dude is a connoisseur of bad movies yet he feels shame on this day
Fr like if a man who says "it's throbbing" on a live stream gets embarrassed you know that's a whole nother level
My girlfriend wants to see this with me... Help 😢
Whats even funnier is that the Death card in tarot doesnt actually represent Death. Its a cycle. the end of something to start anew.
That seems like the trademark of a writer thats done 0 research into tarot, i barely know it and even i know THAT
they literally say that in the movie.
"Written and Directed by one of the three writers for moonfall" That sounded like hearing a dark souls bossfight in the distance.
Sounds like being the 3 nicest guys in prison
Why do so many horror movies have to be such trash?
Cheap to produce
Bc people will see horror movies with their friends no matter the quality just to laugh along
The genre fell off
its sad bc horror is my favourite genre in video games so you would think it would be good in movies too..but like MAN 😭
because the genre has been beat to death.
The fact that tarot was so trash is honestly motivation for me and anyone who wants to go into film. Like if the goobers behind tarot and moonfall could make those movies reality and get away with it then what is stopping you or me from going out there and making actually works of art/masterpieces.
I was thinking the same , am a major in film and I always get people telling me your not gonna be able to make your films but if these movies are made it gives me hope
"Disasterpiece" was right there.
Hey that’s one of my favorite slipknot songs
@@Obisouky4 hell yeah
What's even sadder is the image of that jester looks legit unsettling. It had the potential to be scary.
"It's so depressing"
Literally what I was thinking
I use my wife as a horror movie prediction.
Showed the trailer to my wife:
My Wife: ...thats not even how tarot cards work/are. *dumb*
Me: yep its gonna flop
And behold, 5% on rotten tomatoes!
Tarot cards work?
@@ZeroTwo-- depends on if you believe in it or not. Either way, the way the movie portrays them as working is incredibly incorrect.
@@ZeroTwo-- Eh, depends on if you believe in that sort of thing. But they definitely don't work like how they're portrayed in the movie.
I know what you meant. The filmmakers actually avoided showing what would be considered proper tarot readings which begs the question as to why they'd use the premise at all. It's not like the Ouija movies showed the characters not using the spiritboard in the recommended way.
Your wife and I thought the same thing.
so for those unaware, tarot decks have two parts, the major and minor arcana, the major arcana are the cards you know, the fool, the world, the star etc. the minor arcana are 4 suits, the swords, the cups, the pentacles, and the wands, each suit has the pip cards, 1(ace)-10 and 4 face cards, the king, the queen, the knight, and the page. Every single minor arcana also has a meaning in tarot readings
the six of swords is the path of transitions, it's upright is about embracing the change, letting go of baggage, or healing, it's reversed is about an internal change, unfinished business, or being resistant to a change.
It does not mean, "you're gonna get stabbed by six swords"
Some guy robbed me the other night. Dude came up to me and held up a ticket for Tarot and my heart sank. I've never been scared for my life like that
Sorry about that, I was very desperate to get rid of it
@@elementalt4nickI think you lost your ticket! I put another one in your mailbox 🥰
10:50 - the frustration behind that "And then, even after that" is the iconic "I hate this so much that I just remembered something else you will not believe and will not stop until you know it" vibe.
Charlie summarizing the movie is far more entertaining than the movie itself
How dare you give a bad review, Charlie. Don't you know you're destroying multi-million dollar studios! 😡
You gota pay for the movie its gona get better with time
I wish. 😅
Doesn’t he understand companies are owed people’s time and money for just making a product, regardless of quality? His review could influence people’s spending choices!!😢😢😢😢😢😢 So unfair!
🤣
NOOOO NOT THE COMPANIES 😭😭
WAhHHHHHHHhhHhH 🤪🤡
Also as someone who can read tarot cards, that is not how they work or what they represent the hanging man is about release and closure smh
the demonization of tarot cards always pisses me off
@@grassqwqI was waiting for this comment. I’m so tired of these kinds of movies man. At least make it a self fulfilling prophecy where it’s like- it gives them advice but their fear is what makes them take paranoid steps to hide and doubt others and so they end up locking in and harming themselves, but even then, it isn’t tarot’s cards’s fault because it will warn you not to act up and tell you why 😭
Or how about Death just being a game over card
@@grassqwqfr like people will call anything they don’t understand evil or demonic and it’s like ok that’s just ignorant and dumb
I'm not necessarily *trying* to be an asshole, but...
Are you of the opinion that knowing how to read tarot cards is all that different from just making random stuff up?
What I mean is... Do you actually believe they can tell the future/give unique insights/whatever?
Reminds me of paranormal activity where the few people there and my group of friends were loudly shit talking the movie the entire time. But the cherry on top was a dude standing up as the lights came on yelling YO THAT MOVIE WAS SOME BALLS. Just that phrase made that entire experience worth it
Genuinely wtf was the point of shoving Tarot Cards into the movie? I swear all of the monsters barely resembled the things they were supposed to represent, there was no symbolism, and most people don’t even know about just the Major Arcana, much less the rest of the Tarot deck. It made no sense?
Well, the whole "catholic horror" thing is getting severely overused and played out at this point, so they probably just thought "what religious/spiritual concept can we abuse this time to carry our dumb story without offending a large audience."
Mark this comment: I bet a horror movie centered around astrology will come out in the next 2-3 years lol
@@AngryAlfonse I'll bet with you on that. Also what about one where people get killed with crystals? They're pointy and could be made spooky, ice queen style.
As for abusing spiritual concepts, I am seriously wondering whether the horror narrative around tarot in this film may rather take inspiration from (specifically) the way Christian apologists got very loud about divination being demonic in the past like 5 years. It echoes all their points. It's kind of a bad PSA, except they should have been saved by Jesus at the end.
Only reason I know about the arcana is because of Persona but I don’t know what they represent
@@dantesparrow9903 How are they used in Persona?
@@LiminallyYours Basically the main character is always the fool arcana, and the friends you make in the story are named after different arcana like the lovers, death, hanged man, hierophant, etc.
I read the wiki summary, lol @ the plot, every tarot card is just "oh you die" and has no thematic connection to the actual card
It would be hilarious if they remade the movie and just had a regular deck of cards and they just die anyway for no reason
Honestly, they all could’ve been really interesting, like the Fool could’ve just been anything, Death could’ve been an extreme change in someone’s life, so much so that they just fall apart. The Hermit could’ve been the guy just forcing the guy to be alone after he got all the money.
@@thezackast2752 one of them draws a king, and then some monster dressed like a king just fucking murders them and it's totally unrelated.
@manboy4720 then someone else gets a "10 of hearts" and a dude just wearing a hat with the card taped to it stabs him in the eye.
@@manboy4720 they draw the 7 of clubs and get into a 7 car pileup on the way home
"I just had a Jimmy Nuetron brain blast" I'm stealing that.
If Sony had been smart about it, they would have released Tarot before Madame Web so that at least critics could say Madame Web isn't the worst Sony movie this year.
Also, this feels like something even Blumhouse passed over. Either that or they weren't asked first.
Sony being smart is asking for too much in the first place
@@GravitasZero
I enjoy the Spiderverse movies so I can't completely hate on Sony though that might be the broken clock thing.
@@ashleybrooke2087 That would indeed be a broken clock thing.
I can't believe the CEO of sex couldn't carry this movie😢
@itz_me_aziza_21 brigada whaf
@@LordMegatron05 pretty sure it’s a bot, don’t engage
@@p-__ WOOOO YEAHHH LETS GO BABY WHATS WHAT IVE BEEN WAITING FOR WOOOOO
Who tf is the CEO of sex lmao
@@joaoalves-we6il Ned Leeds
3:05 "unironically, matt and I's acting in the green screen merch shoots is better than anything you'll find in tarot"
I mean, you can't expect these actors to compete with the star of hunger games.
As someone who casually reads tarot for fun, this is hilarious. Both the usage of tarots in the movie and the way Charlie calls the readings "horoscopes" 😭
Hey now, as an aquarium myself this is offensive and my hallowscope told me I'm grumpy today 😤
Nobody cares
@@needmoresnacksChange your carbon filter, should cheer you up. 😂
@@green7449 that’s a really good idea!
It’s a fun party trick, A good horror movie could have worked but drawing a card would affect your life in some way over some cruddy slasher flick.
“Fortnite emoting in anger” had me dying.
@@p-__ Shut up, you bot. Instead of spamming the same thing over and over again, why don't you do something new like writing a normal comment? Now go and do something with your life, you sad little spammer.
Imagine drawing the world and a gay vampire starts chasing you
The annoying thing is that with a competent writer and good director this idea could actually be kind of cool. Like the premise sounds interesting enough if done right, unfortunately it was not done right
Think like 13 ghosts but like zodiac creatures instead of ghosts
And since tarot cards are really popular right now, it's the perfect time for a movie like this to be made. How does someone fumble the ball like this? An evil zodiac movie would also be a good idea since astrology is trendy too, but they'll just waste that opportunity too. 🙄
What makes it bad?
@@icebatofvalikinRRBZ8 Buddy, we're on the same video explaining *why* it's bad.
We’re in a time where horror movies have completely deteriorated to the point where they’re actually memorable
I saw one from our local school. The house was haunted, so the girl says “this is my house now, you need to leave” and the ghost leaves! Because they’re respectful that way.
They were very proud of their work.
This doesn’t even sound like Tarot Cards, more of those weird star things TikTok does.
Which is a shame since a movie based on Tarot cards might be sick, like your card determines the way you die or if you live
The Hanged Man is a hanging, The Tower is falling, The Lovers is either you were killed by your lover or spared, The Chariot is run over, etc etc
You draw a pentacle card and get killed by a ninja star.
That's what happens, which isn't how Tarot works. Hanged Man isn't literally a hanging, the Hanged Man isn't even hanging by his neck, the ENTIRE point is that he's hanging by his legs upside down. Death isn't actually Death, the Devil isn't actually the Devil, but the movie takes it all super literally in a really corny way. It's tragic how much it felt like they had done a tone of research for how horoscopes and divination readings work, and yet still had no idea what the fuck they meant.
@@aeashenemby I suppose, but I feel like if the cards had a more meaning behind them? My original post didn’t actually portray it right, so I only put the bare minimum, so if something like a really odd string of events, that eventually connects to the card you drew, in one way or another
This is movie is the finest example of- 'I had zero expectations and I still managed to get disappointed'
RUclips and Spotify have been shoving the trailer for this down my throat for weeks
You're kinky
@@p-__you should go treat yourself now ⚡⚡🌩️
3:20 Out of context
Cant believe charlie missed the one opportunity to say "Disasterpiece" and instead said "Masterpiece diaster" 💀😭
Are you a Slipknot fan?
@@chakrashadow3220 I am
@@ethernalhate Nice. Me too, so I appreciate what you did there
A disasterpiece would be something like Sharknado where it's so bad it's good. This is just a disaster, lol.
i read this right when he said it 😂
Glad i never even heard of it
How?
Shut the hell up
Me neither I haven't even heard of it before
Don’t care, my content is way superior than what this man has ever produced so get over it.
@@SussyGabrielOFFICIAL balls
16:50 - Makes sense since his roommate is obviously Peter Parker
🤣🤣
Useless information here, but the 6 of Swords is part of the minor arcana. There's 4 different types in the minor arcana: swords, cups, pentacles, and wands. The minor arcana cards are numbered 1-10, and also have Page, Knight, King and Queen. Supposedly the minor arcana is where we got regular playing cards from. The High Priestess, The Hanged Man, and Death are all the major arcana.
Horror movies are like Russian roulette but in opposite way.
@itz_me_aziza_21why are you spamming this comment
@@tangiblenoah2035 its a bot
What are the bots even trying to gain at this point? People that run bot channels should just give up living.
@@Dominusom hoping that kids will visit their channel and post a rude comment
@@DominusomReplies and attention.
"I expected nothing and yet I'm still disappointed." - Charlie
Monster while strangling the protagonist: 😈
Monster after their tarot uno-reverse reading: 🥺
What baffles me is they got Trevor Henderson the famous and highly talent artist most known for creating siren head, cartoon cat, long horse and other internet monsters to design the creators for this movie
How they got someone with his talent on board is beyond me
Makes sense why they chose him for a terrible movie. I don't find any of their pieces all that great.
@@PopADoseYoyour opinion
@@PopADoseYo L take
@@PopADoseYo Sirenhead is overused but that's not really his fault
Charlie just had a stroke at 7:18 🤣
I like how you can just skim through this. See no clips. No screens. It’s just him ranting about a garbage movie
Ik. My girlfriend actually wants to see this with me..... Help😢
@Spiralredd Tell her that white shirt man said it's bad. She will understand.
@@john236613 yeah but then she's gonna be sad... besides no one's gonna be in the theater so we'll at least have alone time
@@Spiralredd just have sex the whole time. Bad movies are for that
It is Tarot-ble
Beautiful
@@sillypinkeweyou’re beautiful
When you mentioned the whole "written and directed by 1 of 3 writers of Moonfall" made me think of "2 of the 6 writers of Scary Movie." 😂
In 2022, I had a series of N-Stemi incidents- essentially mini-heart attacks that presented as acute indigestion- which eventually culminated in a 4x bypass. These got progressively worse in pain level and duration, and I knew I'd have to eventually get over my "guy-ness" (i.e., everything will just go away if we wait long enough) and go to the ER, or conversely, eventually drop dead. So literally the week before I did finally go to the hospital I had a particularly severe occurrence as I was watching "Moonfall" on Netflix...
And I thought, "OMG please please please don't let this be the last movie I see before I die..."
It really was that hilariously awful.
Moonfall was one of the movies I’ve ever watched. My favourite part is the flooding scene when they start drowning in knee deep water, and the dude dives in to save him except it’s knee deep water so he can’t just dive in and instead sort of flops down into it then has to perform the acting of a lifetime to make us believe he’s actually swimming in the knee deep water. What makes it better is you can _see the stairs through the water_ and can tell it’s like… 3, 4 stairs deep? It is BARELY knee deep.
I couldn't help but think of a comedic turn when you said she drew the card of Six Swords - I just imagine the response from one of the guys screaming, "The Swords of Revealing Light?!"
I should play horror movie bingo and use "stupid decisions made by main characters" as a free space
My headphones went out when the prediction predicted technology letting you down... and thats the more scared ive been throughout this experience
What pisses me off about horror from Hollywood is it is the one genre that has so many great short films to take from. Like so many people making short horror films that could used the investments.
Because Hollywood celebrates its own slop.
There is no creativity there.
8:35 never in my life would i think that charles would reference dbd
It's been 13 years since The Cabin in the Woods and horror movies still refuse to learn originality.
It's adapted from a bad horror novel from the 90s & it completely discards even most of that plot where a serial killer is murdering people in ways consistent with their horoscope.
Mlp horor fan fiction on film fiction. Net is written a billion times better than this
@@ashleybrooke2087 that would've been so much more interesting even if done mediocre
Im just glad Ned made some new friends after Peter Parker had to leave him 😭
FYI from what I learned you can use anyone's Tarot deck, but your own deck is supposed to be a gift from someone else. You're just not supposed to go out and buy a deck for yourself even if you really like the artwork.
Yeah but a deck that's been used before and might have bad vibes you're meant to leave it under the full moon for a night to cleanse it. Anyway I buy my own decks bc like who is gonna give me one... Some kind of tarot fairy?
@@missquinberly hahaha! I definitely understand your reasoning.
It was easier for me, because the little shop I used to work at sold decks, and two of my elder witchy coworkers saw me looking through the major arcana of some decks I liked the look of, and bought them for me (with the 40% employee discount).
And prior to that even my mother had occult interests before I was born, so she gifted me her classic Rider-Waite deck once I was old enough.
But in your shoes I know I'd probably do the same. Lol
Honestly, this was like an anti-movie. This is like the movie you put on when you’re having boring sex and you need some noise to break the awkwardness. This is the movie you put on when you have all your friends over to play card games that you all glance at while awaiting your turn but never truly watch for more than 30 seconds.
Ha, card games specifically. The irony lol
Now I’m not incredibly knowledgable about Tarot (I don’t have them memorized) but I own some decks, have given readings, and have received readings, buuuut… 1) your zodiac doesn’t have anything to do with tarot readings, you shuffle and place your cards, and based on the order, position, and kind of card you can gain some insights into the question you asked while shuffling. 2) there are a TON of cards in a tarot deck. 78, and only 22 are the major arcana (the fool, magician, world, etc). The rest are minor arcana (wands, cups, swords, pentacles). The odds of everyone getting a SPECIFIC major arcana card are SLIM! There are readings I’ve done/gotten where no major arcana shows up, and some where multiple do. For only ONE to show in a reading is NOT HOW IT WORKS! Probability says NO! ITS MATH!!!
I don’t think the makers of this movie have used tarot decks.
PS: to answer your question Charlie about the 6 of swords, the minor arcana has 4 suits (swords, cups, wands/staffs, pentacles/coins) and each suit has an ace(one)-10, a page, knight, queen, and king. It’s a lot like playing cards, and you can do divination with those too. So each suit has 14 cards, each suit means something (like a genre: pentacles usually align with wealth) and each number/face card in the suit has a more precise meaning. The major arcana cards have BIG sweeping meanings.
Could you technically play poker with tarot cards?
@@Kingbeanxx I guess? There’s no Jack in the minor arcana, but a page, knight, then queen and king. So you’d have to go through and remove all the pages or knights so you’d have the right amount of cards per suit. But ya, you could. The suits would be different, and the work it’d take to go through and remove the major arcana and the extra face card of the suits would be annoying, so I’m not sure why you would though.
@@Kingbeanxx There are books about how to use playing cards like tarot cards for divination though, so you can do the opposite.
I’ve literally never heard of this
my brother said "I wonder when critical will cover this" when the trailer first came out
Aaaah, that genuinely sucks. I was really looking forward to this one because I saw that the monster designs were done by Trevor Henderson - the guy who made Sirenhead, among many other cool as hell monsters.
Was planning on watching it just for that, even though the plot looked super generic based on the trailer. Hope Trevor doesn't get any hate for it.
The person responsible for Sirenhead worked on this???? Oh my god D: I agree with you, I'm so disappointed.
@@LiminallyYours Yeah! He was super excited about it too, talked about it on his Twitter.
The only reason I was interested to be honest. I'm so sad. :(
Moonfall broke my brain. It gets stupider and stupider as it progresses. I made it to the Moon landing. I then had to go for a long Gump like self-contemplating walk. I walked long and far.
There was a Tales from the Darkside episode on a tarot deck card ruining lives. Like a lady whose a huckster misinterprets a card so often that it starts f-cking up people's lives after their reading, including the scam artist. People should go find that.
That could be a great comedy if done right.
@@Jenna2k Tales from the Darkside had a lot of interesting episodes, plenty darkly comedic (intentionally or otherwise).
Every time Charlie watches a new horror movie, he brings himself one step closer to clinical depression.
just for fun one time i looked into what some different tarot cards actually meant and im pretty sure that what just about all these cards ended up doing in the movie was completely unrelated to what they supposedly mean irl
ex (assuming im remembering correctly): the fool card has nothing to do with being "bullheaded and making rash decisions," its mostly about being inexperienced. death also has almost nothing to do with actual death, it's mostly about ego death and the recreation of your personality. The swords also have nothing to do with actual swords, they represent intellect or emotions.
Wasn’t that line for the Taurus and not the actual card itself? Plus I keep seeing people say the cards were to literal but wasn’t the whole point being that they’re haunted by a scorned woman so now she just shapeshifts into the images on the cards and kill them however the MC said some bs like “water under the bridge” “wrong track” and “climbing the ladder”. At least that’s how I was interpreting it.
@@stormie8009 Yeah, but like... that's just not how tarot works. If they wanted to do that concept, I'm sure they could've executed in a more clever way instead of making the cards literal, don't you think?
@@OrionDawn15 it’s literally a generic horror movie with a witch cursing some tarot cards,I doubt they wanted to be “literal” like most generic horror movies; it’s mostly a cash grab at best🤷♀️ people should watch these horror movies for the fun and thrill not for the historical accuracy of it unless it’s based off a true story.
Edit: I mean Imagine people who are die hard doll fans complaining about Chucky or even the voodoo community since Chucky literally used voodoo to curse the doll unless I’m mistaken 😭 it’s just annoying to see the complaints on something that if you look at it as a generic horror movie isn’t that terrible but most just can’t because they wanted a accurate tarot movie which wouldn’t even happen as a horror movie since irl tarot isn’t horror filled at all unless you’re superstitious!
2:50 for what Charlie sounds like in bed
I swear him explaining bad movies is probably one of my favorite types of videos he makes
I have not seen this movie, but if it has anything to do with tarot cards, I'm betting it breaks rule #1 of tarot cards. The death card doesn't mean you or someone you know is gonna die. It means there's change coming.
So if some tarot reader in this movie slaps down the death card and the music gets all dramatic and it turns out the card caused people to die, understand that that's actually MORE bullsh-t than tarot card readings. Because even tarot card readers understand the rules.
Okay yeah the climax is the main character draws death on the evil ghost and it destroys the ghost.
God damn it.
My friend took me to this for her birthday and it was so much worse than I expected. Just sat there with a blank face the whole time, not even a single scare
Maybe the Tarot is the friends we made along the way
It's Tarotin' time.
10:20 pisses me off
Why do movies make characters give up so quickly
My brother defends it “oh you think you can handle but you can’t”
Have someone for once not give into great so easily. FIGHT IT
My husband passed away last night and I’ve been struggling feeding the kids. Thank you for this masterpiece Charlie.
My condolences 😞🙏
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@itz_me_aziza_21Bro who tf asked?
I thought I was the only one who noticed.😃
When I first saw anything about this movie, I immediately went “Ugh, that’s not how tarot is at all… Why can’t movies like this do even the slightest amount of research?” Then, I learned that Trevor Henderson came up with the creature design and saw a longer trailer that actually made me feel slightly tempted to actually see the movie. I was hoping that it would be a story about some sort of curse or a warped/evil deck of cards and that the creature design + cool kills would carry the whole movie so it sucks that it turned out so shitty. I really hope that Trevor Henderson ends up doing designs for more things in the future, though.
00:55 Disasterpiece was RIGHT THERE
I got to see the og alien in theaters the other day. Such good vibes.
I work at a movie theater, and while I only started recently and only worked two days so far, I’ve scanned two groups’ tickets for Tarot at the ticket stand, and I’ve seen people buy/sold people/heard people buy tickets to Tarot twice, in total, I’ve only heard of 4 groups getting tickets to tarot over the course of 16 hours.
Missed opportunity for the movie to be named Horrorscope
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you forgot one thing. they ended the movie with the line “fuck fate”
I got like 20000 tiktok ads for tarot and I imediately knew it was pure shit by the ads