Only time you ever truly showed off what you could do was in 2003 clone wars against 5 different jedi at once, *not* including the clone arc trooper reinforcements and gunship they had to save them either.
My dear, Obi-Wan, I'm sorry to bitter you but if you had to defeat General Grievious from the 2003 series I guarantee you that you wouldn't survive more than 5 seconds. What I'm trying to say is that you were extremely lucky with Grievious!
i know it was so weird for me. at the time i thought the jedi could do no harm but this shows despite their wisdom and power they can be just as flawed as everyone else
mad pariah In terms of Grievous, back before he became half-droid he was a hero to his people the Kaleesh in being a great warlord and fighting off these dudes called the Huk who wished to enslave all of his people. After a while the Huk got the help of the Republic and made the Kaleesh look like Villains. Jedi Knights were sent to stop the war and they caused the Kaleesh to go into poverty and many of them died from starvation. Anyway, the Jedi allowed the Huk to commit a lot of atrocities against Grievous which is why he hates them so much
Pretty sure a lot of deaths are okay in a TV-PG show if they aren't bloody or something. But all the deaths plus the PG rating, use of alcohol, and suicide, it's hard to even call it a kids show.
A lot of people miss at 0:46, the magna guards intelligence to signal the other one to attack first, it's quite small of a detail but shows how capable they are
Ah yess ensuring Anakin does not see Grievous to keep the plothole of their first meet out, but forgetting this part. Guess episode 3 needs a fix on that now haha
clone helmets supply emergency oxygen for about 30 minutes; if you want to do the slightest physical thing or breath for longer that's when you need the tanks
Apart from the irony of Order 66, it's funny how Kenobi criticizes the droid army, when the Separatists actually believe it's far more humane, as they don't have to sacrifice actual lives. In a way, the separatists are correct. Once the war is over, the droids can just shut down and be kept in storage. The clones, however, would be pretty much displaced in a peaceful society.
Wait seriously? Damn. I actually want to read a book about the separatist pov in this war. It would make clone wars more interesting than it already is
Johan S Yeah, from what I understand, a large chunk of the Separatist politicians are largely uninvolved with the military, and are more focused with helping improve the lives of their planets. As can be seen in one episode, where they were willing to negotiate peace. Dooku, Gunrray and other corporate leaders are the ones in charge of the military.
@@datemasamune2904 OB1 didn't critisize droid army, but Grevious' motives. As a proud warrior and general, it's not like he can earn his army respect or inspire them, they're just droids... Hope U know what I mean
@@fiucik1 I get it, but that sorta makes less sense, considering that most of these B1 battle droids seem to respond to praise and threats like regular folk.
Yeah canon grievous tends to win his interactions with or without Magna guards, but it's not even the force that screws him over. It's plot armour. There's 2 times here where grievous could have used his other two arms to kill kenobi, but proceeded to just hold 4 lightsabers to his one blade. And this can be seen in literally every fight of his. Instead of using his arms to attack (weather it be 2 or 4) he instead just aims for peoples lightsabers. Then the victim gets away, uses the force grievous runs, and then he's a coward. The writers really screwed up an amazing character.
Here George Lucas missed a golden opportunity to actually give General Grievous some depth. When Obi - Wan asks for his motivation, Lucas could of done this: Obi - Wan boldly yelled: "An army with no loyalty! No Spirit! Just programming. What do you have to show for all your power? What do have you to gain?!" General Grievous stopped suddenly and a brief silence filled the room as his head slightly bowed. He Looked at Obi - Wan with his eyes, the last clear vestige of his original body, and there was an obvious pain in them that Obi - Wan felt. "I was there Obi - Wan. On the front lines leading my people to victory against a species that attempted to murder us. I was there when your race of Jedi rained down from the sky and killed my people like animals. I was there when my body was destroyed by your Jedi ships. What do I hope to gain you ask?" He separated his two arms into four and drew out his light sabers. "A Future. A Future where there are no Jedi!" He Lunged forward, striking at Obi - Wan from all sides who was momentarily stunned by Grievous's story. Promptly leaping downwards out of the corner, Obi - Wan narrowly avoided Grievous's blows. Before Obi - Wan could even bring up his Lightsaber to defend himself, Grievous was on him, grabbing Obi - Wan's arm with his leg and throwing him into the ceiling. Using the force to push Grievous away, Obi - Wan fled the Control Room.
That's actually not a bad idea, i could see it happening but with Lucas under the control i don't think he would make Grievous like that as he sees Grievous differently, sadly in a way we don't see Grievous at all.
I would have preferred it if the dialogue went like that. One little thing though, George doesn't have a huge amount of control on this show. Blame Filoni or the writer of this episode.
He may not be the proud, powerful Jedi slaughterer like he was in the old canon, but to be fair, he fought well and the only thing that kept him from killing Kenobi was plot armor.
Lam Wing Fung I said it during the clone wars cartoon, the movie, then the animated series. The creators of SW media apparently have no idea how electronic, pneumatic or hydraulic actuators work. The idea that Kenobi could even hold steady the lifeless husk of general grievous leaving over him, is ridiculous in itself, even with the force reenforcing his movements. But that thing is a moving robot. Even of we take into account the "weakest" of the 3 popular actuator technologies, that is, electronic, we have a robot that is several times more powerful than a human could ever be. And just to clarify, grievous's arms, though they are not consistent in their appearance, generally share characteristics of hybrid technology, to either hydraulic or pneumatic, aided with electronic for fingers and tje famous lightsaber-rotation stuff. I don't think I have to question whether Kenobi can match a hydraulic motor in strength. Bottomline, Soresu or not, there is no possible way he is a match for the general. Not even the magnaguards for that matter. After the first attack from the general, his lightsaber would be yanked right out of his hand.
ryhansen1 They can use the force, but other than that, they don't have superhuman strength. Or if and when they do, they have to use immense force powers to fuel it. And I know it is cheap to argue about this, it just makes so little sense. Vader could strangle a man with his bionic hand by just grabbing them by the throat. Not too many people can do that, which means it is reasonable that even in star wars, machines are quite strong. I also remeber a scene in the CW animated series where a clone punches a droid in the chest, and the droid doesn't even flinch , while the clone sprains his hand or something(NOT super battle droid, just a regular battle droid.), again suggesting that under the skeletal exterior and comical appearance, they are massive war machines. I just want consistency. And since is is impossible, I lile bitching about it.
To be fair Grievous' motivations for a future without Jedi are justified in a way. Before becoming the lead General of the droid army, his species the Kaleesh had a rivalry with a neighboring species called Huk. The Jedi sided with the Huk against the Kaleesh. Sometime later on a bomb was set inside of his ship which fatally injured him but not killing him. He later woke up to Count Dooku who actually planted the bomb in Grievous' ship but Dooku told Grievous that the Jedi did it. This is also the simplified backstory of General Greivous for people who didn't know. Also Greivous isn't the General's real name. It's Qymaen jai Sheelal.
In Canon as established by this show, that’s not actually his backstory anymore. Instead, Grievous chose to transform himself into a cyborg through successive enhancements in his quest to drive the Jedi from his homeworld. His warrior backstory remains the same, but he is no longer a victim of Dooku’s manipulation.
@@sarcasticsaber8902 I think it gives him more agency, which is a good thing in a villain backstory when you’re not trying to create a tragic or sympathetic villain like Grievous isn’t.
On Episode III, their main focus was the fall of Anakin Skywalker, the rise of Darth Vader, and Darth Sidious revealing himself to exact vengeance on the Jedi. They needed Darth Tyranus and General Grievous to wrap up the Clone Wars.
It's pretty much as I've stated many times, they should have made his presence more limited and reduced his appearances in the show. The biggest problem was he was over used in episodes where he didn't need to be around.
+The Lich No, it was when Grievous boarded Obi Wan's ship and forced him to abandon ship after setting it to self-destruct, but with Grievous escape the ship's destruction
Ah man. I wish instead of the already stupified Obi vs Grievous they should have used some No-name-Jedis which get killed by Grievous. I mean what should the poor guy do against Plot Armor?
+TurKlack Fun fact dave filoni originally was going to have grievous kill Eeth Koth. But then he had second thoughts because he thought he might want to use the character later on. Years later and he never did (unless I am mistaken). Which is a darn shame grievous killing a jedi master/council member. Might have helped in convincing people he earned the title of knightslayer.
Aura Force Well part of the unaired season 7 seemed to have just been focusing on Anakin obi wan and more mace windu (YAY). And dark disciple might have made it to TV instead of just being a book.
What I love about this fight is something I learned from someone else. The reason mace windu never wanted to fight grievous is because he can mimic fighting styles and the style mace uses is very aggressive. However obi wan uses a very defensive style forcing grievous to go on the attack hindering his ability to mimic the style
Exactly, it's a nice touch. Obi-Wan's style being suited to blocking blaster bolts specifically (which are akin to blocking multiple lightsabers) also makes him the perfect counter to Grievous, hence why he was picked for Utapau over Windu or any other Jedi Master.
@@randomshittutorials tbf we are talking about the same grevious who took lightsabers as trophies and believed jedi were the reason for his disfigurement… ignoring or not fighting a jedi is a HARD pill for him to swallow
Damn if the Sepratist really wanted to win they should've switched to mass producing Commando Droids, they cut down clones as fast as clones cut down standard battle Droids.
The problem with this is that the CIS and the republic were both controlled by Palpatine, who wanted to drag the war out and kept both sides more or less balanced.
why would he want that though? if the CIS is strong enough they could just take down the Republic making that complicated plan with the coup thing not needed
+ Dr. Boring you can't create Clone Commandos they start out as any other clone and then they rise up in the rank of CC even if they could it would cost way more than the average clone and if you remember just making normal clones nearly bankrupted the Republic
1:45 and then obi wan’s precious army with “spirit and loyalty” betrays the Jedi, because of their *programming* props to the script writers, they knew how to plan ahead
"Not so impressive fights" The guy has tuberculosis and is non force sensitive while being able to wipe out thousands of jedi and I think his arrogance enjoyment makes him even a better leader general honestly if he would have had the support of Palatine and count dooku with more enforcement the war would be over with separatists Winning it so yeah I don't think it's right to say he didn't make impressive fights the guy was literally a combat beast without the best armor and without force welding powers
@@Dav624 I dont even remember making this comment loll, but back then i think i compared him too much with the 2003 clone wars grievous and how his fights in this show was less impressive and we usually saw him losing and never actually saw his victories in the war. Whatever my opinion was back then, yea i agree that he was making the most out of what he had which is impressive
I can't stand when people call General Grievous a coward. He's always willing to stand his ground and fight and he only retreats when he's at a tactical disadvantage. He was more than willing to fight Kenobi until he used the force on him, obviously Grevious can't use the force so that's a major advatnage over him that would get him killed. Why would he stick around for that? Lmao. He has fought several Jedi at once several times being quick and stealthy, some have also called this cowardly when in fact Grevious had the advantage and kept it. He's no coward, he's just a very smart soldier. The only time Grevious made a mistake in this judgement was when he fought Kenobi for the last time and thought Kenobi was down, in which the force was his downfall. Grevious was very good at playing the gambler's game, but every dog has his day. Grevious was no coward.
@Alex Souster He fell down. Falling isn't a loss. We've seen him get up many times and block lightsaber attacks while on the ground, i.e. Kit Fisto. That was also more than just falling, he had no legs and was fighting 2 Jedi and a clone unit and he still held his own. He just underestimated her and realized beating her would take longer than he thought, which he didn't have time for. His mission was to kill the witch that was literally about to kill Dooku.
+Thaal Sinestro Both shows are good in their own rights, except CW had much more battlefield violence and death whereas Rebels is mostly centered around the shenanigans of one group.
The clones were extremely loyal to their brothers and the republic. That's why the ARC troopers and the jedi didn't really get along, differing ideologies about the war
The clones might have themselves fooled into thinking their loyalty and spirit is real. But if you don't know anything else, and are created, brainwashed, and programmed to be that way, how can it be real? They are a slave army who fight for a government with anti-slavery laws. Do the clones even know anything about the Republic they're fighting for, if they've grown up in Kamino's sterile laboratories, so far away from the culture, society, and policies of the Republic? At the end of the day, despite what the clones themselves may think, it is only programming. Slick betrayed his fellow clones, the Jedi, and the Republic right at the beginning of the war; but when your only options are loyalty and sacrifice, or treason and loss, there is still no choice.
It's a shame that he's also the only Star Wars villain to get a severe nerf...and one so ball-busting that his entire reputation was almost completely destroyed.
this is so dumb, he has 4 sabers but chooses to swing it all at the same angle in the same direction at the same time, he could literally just left one for defense and the other 3 for stabbing and obi wan would have been dead in one blow exchange -.-
Why wouldn't that make sense? He's suppose to be attacking them constantly, staying close and never allowing them the chance to use their Force abilities outside of their augmentation. It makes perfect sense...
Yomil Dank Are you forgetting that Grevious has the capability to jump and move very fast as well due to his cybernetics? It wouldn't be that easy for most Jedi.
Aiden Macky have you seen how over the top grevious was in that series? his level of power made no sense when you realize that he was just a disposable pawn
+Anthony Rodriguez Well, he was supposed to be the equalizer to the jedis. He kind of needed to be obnoxiously overpowered to justify the droid army ever being of any threat whatsoever against the jedi.
joshua kim the droid army was just fine without grevious They had ventress durge dooku and literally trillions of Battle droid's with hundreds of variation I don't think they needed grevious
"An army with no loyalty, no spirit, just programming!" says the guy leading an army that was born for the soul purpose for war without caring about their own ambitions, who will turn on you without a second thought because of protocols
exactly, tankbreed soldiers brainwashed since birth who have no rights or thoughts of their own forced to fight a war they have no role in. real pot calling the kettle black situation.
There are so many reasons why the Legends version of General Grievous was a much better character than the new canon Grievous in Clone wars, they really messed him up hard. If the writers of the Clone Wars wanted to have a incompetent brute they should have kept the bounty hunter Durge. The Old General Grievous was a tragic tale of a hero who became a monster because he was doing what he thought was right but became consumed by anger based on lies from Count Doku foreshadowing the fall of Anakin to becoming Darth Vader based in the lies of Emperor Palpatine. In fact General Greivous was meant to be a prototype of the cybernetics program that gave Darth Vader his life support suit.
...wait...why didn't they use Durge for this now that i think about it? They scraped through the entire jedi barrel to dig up every random ass jedi with the tiniest of references, yet they never bothered to bring Durge in on this, even when they introduced several bounty hunters later on?!
Bysthedragon regardless, the 2003 clone wars was way too good. That was it's flaw, it out shined and over hyped episode 3. Every single complaint about the prequel trilogy was resolved in a measly 2 hours and 15 minutes. That's the reason they didn't want it as canon, because it shows that they could've done something great with the prequels instead of what we got.
2:20 I know they don't want to make Grievous overpowered again, but I can't help but always look at these 1 vs 4 lightsaber fights. He strikes Obi-Wan with all 4 lightsabers, and while Obi-Wan is trying to deflect Grievous could easily remove 1 arm and stab Obi-Wan right in the chest, whilst still having 3 lightsabers keeping Obi-Wan on the defensive. Heck, you could do a lot with 4 lightsabers-- Though you know... I guess thinking like that would easily end a lot of lore, hah!
Notice how on 2:05 obi wan does the same move on grievous he does on ROTS except here on their first proper lightsaber duel he gets knocked down by grievous (yes i mean proper cause in their first encounter they only briefly touched blades and grievous wasnt using 4 lightsabers) so nice reference to ROTS
Obiwan can’t use the force because grievous is so fast for him to and using the force requires concentration which is why grievous always retreats when Jedi use the force because that creates distance between grievous and the Jedi allowing them to use the force easily
"I've been trained in your JEDI ARTS by Count Dooku." "Oh cmon, stop talking like you're fighting me for the first time." "Oh, sorry, Kenobi. I just didn't watch the show."
2:20 Practically the ONLY time in the whole series that Grievous fighting style with four lightsabers was accurately portrayed in the series, for about five seconds.
@@xd51000 This series stretches the limits of the continuity like freaking taffy, I have to joke about it. At least Genndy Tartakovsky's version stayed somewhat faithful to the continuity of the movies, even if it was a much shorter series. Granted we wouldn't have Ahsoka so...fair trade.
Goddamn Grievous is intimidating in lightsaber combat.....not as intimidating as his 2003 variant but I can see how fighting him would be rather terrifying.
The best part of this scene was where Grievous revealed his sole motivation: he was in it strictly for the war itself. Leading armies and killing made him content. Lawful Evil.
I’d argue he’s Neutral Evil. To be Lawful, he would have to follow some sort of code, but he hardly even pretends to do that. He just wants to kill Jedi, and the power is something he certainly enjoys, but it’s mostly just a means for him to eliminate the Jedi Order.
This is stupid then why grievous acts like he never fought kenobi in episode 3 ? "You fool, I've been trained in your jedi arts by Count Dooku" Remember ?
Just because Kenobi fought Grievous before doesn't mean he knew it was Dooku who trained him. Plus, when they meet on the bridge of the invisible hand, they seem to have a history with each other. However, episode 3 was the first time Grievous and Anakin met in person. The Clone Wars made sure of that.
I love how Grievous just laughs and chuckles at everything like it makes him so happy to fight like he can never lose the ultimate smack talker to when he does .... Hardest villain in star wars no cap 💯💯💯
In all fairness Grievous performed pretty damn well, he had Kenobi pushed back on his heels that entire fight up until he used the force. Even after that he was able to force his way past him to escape capture and even sent him flying down the ramp in their second(albeit very brief) engagement. Respect grievous!
I find it really annoying how the whole sequence that starts at 0:33 is flipped horizontally (it's not edited for the purpose of this video, this error is in the original episode).
To be honest if it was "realistic" nobody could defeat a cybord with 4 swords precisely because of that, here grievous always strikes in the same direction because otherwise parrying successfully vs him would be impossible.
True.. I always seem to forget that movies are not supposed to be realistic, at least not the fantasy and sci-fi ones and even then.. Why do I question a Cyborg's fighting methods when there are way more unrealistic things to question.. Such as magic space wizards..
I hate when he fights in this he literally attacks the lightsaber. Each arm is stronger than obi-wans and yet he needs all four of them to block. Block with one and attack with the other three.
If one arm is too weak, then he should consider 2 arms for blocking and 2 for offense. Now that might not be so "fun" if grievous just kills Obi Wan. But I guess it would make things more interesting if the Jedi would have to kill grievous another way, without duelling. I don't know, that's just what I think.
grievous isn't force sensitive, and his goals are fairly simple straightforward ones without much thought put into it. Usually those people are easier to direct towards one path or another, but Grievous isn't exactly cooperative.
Oddly enough General Kenobi literally says everything what Anakin would become in just a few years and he doesn’t even know it 1:25 "A futile quest for power, a mutilated body" 😔 Obi Wan then says General Grievous is a puppet for Dooku and a errands boy much like Vader would be for the Emperor. But Grievous says he isn’t in the war for Dooku politics which is similar to Vader. Vader only fought for the Emperor to become powerful enough to kill Jedi out of spite and to defeat the Emperor so he could rule the Galaxy.
Kiron Gauff That was only for like one day in Ep.3 until Padme died compared to the full life of Darth Vader who wanted revenge from the Jedi & wanted to rule the galaxy.
At 2:27 why doesnt he gut Kenobi with his two lower arms? The network had to Nerf Grevious because one vs one he'd stomp anyone by virtue of having more lightsabers.
“ I here a lot of talking Anakin. But in the final accounting, where does all that talking get you? A futile quest for power, a mutilated body, and your place as Sidious’s errand boy!!!” Wait
1. Eeth Koth - he fucking cheated, he used all those elite droids to help him and defeated Eeth after he was exhausted 2. Ahsoka was a Padawan, defeating Padawan isn't that impressive, you can do it with a good blaster no need for Lightsabers 3. Kit Fisto defeated him, he would have died if droids didn't come to rescue him. And even in this fight he needs assistance of Droids. Canon Grievous is so pathetic that I'm suprised he got any Lightsabers at all.
@@gabenewell3955 Becouse he had backup. You know if I called 4 friends and went to beat you up you wouldn't say "that guy beat me up" you would say "five guys beat me up" right ? If an adult beat up 10 year old kid you wouldn't say "wow you are so tough dude, you beat him up" right ? Then why should it be diffrent with Grievous?
fLy 1. grievous was clearly winning before the droids inferred 2. Ashoka during season 5 was as powerful as a Jedi Knight also Ashoka could contend with maul 3. Kit Fisto ran away from grievous and used the fog to his advantage
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Grievous was winning a war that was designed for him to lose, with an army of robots designed to be bad soldiers.
I disagree with you 100/% driod army could of easily won the war
The point they are making is that palps made sure grievous lost
@@kiana_kaslana12 How is that a disagreement? We're both saying the droids could have won.
@@kiana_kaslana12 Yes, that’s what “winning a war” means. Did you have a stroke?
Nah, Palpatine was feeding the Separatists information on the Republic Army. Grievous would've sucked even harder without that.
I was taking it easy on him.
General Grievous why didn't you kill him
Only time you ever truly showed off what you could do was in 2003 clone wars against 5 different jedi at once, *not* including the clone arc trooper reinforcements and gunship they had to save them either.
I did my best
@@ugiustuskeiserus8066 Greivous was better the only fact that kenobi beated him was that obi wan can use the force
@@AISNeymar
Then how was Grievous able to beat Jedi?
I remember it like it was yesterday...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Lol!
Obi-Wan Kenobi lol
My dear, Obi-Wan, I'm sorry to bitter you but if you had to defeat General Grievious from the 2003 series I guarantee you that you wouldn't survive more than 5 seconds. What I'm trying to say is that you were extremely lucky with Grievious!
nijgt you already dead
Huh, yeah. Me too.
enough of the standard attacks, use the unorthodox
Carium Control my central line.
That Comedy Person you're holding the Saber too tightly
Carium Now, too lightly.
YAY what a great moment
"I thank you for your training, master. It has awarded me many trophies."
kenobi asks every important question except WHY grievous hates the jedi so much it's actually simple yet interesting
mad pariah The Jedi helped his enemies conquer The generals home world
i know it was so weird for me. at the time i thought the jedi could do no harm but this shows despite their wisdom and power they can be just as flawed as everyone else
mad pariah This was around a time where the Jedi were becoming warmongers
M28tan I'd never even heard of that! Like Krell or what? Please do go on
mad pariah In terms of Grievous, back before he became half-droid he was a hero to his people the Kaleesh in being a great warlord and fighting off these dudes called the Huk who wished to enslave all of his people. After a while the Huk got the help of the Republic and made the Kaleesh look like Villains. Jedi Knights were sent to stop the war and they caused the Kaleesh to go into poverty and many of them died from starvation. Anyway, the Jedi allowed the Huk to commit a lot of atrocities against Grievous which is why he hates them so much
for a kids show, this show had A LOT of deaths
Yeah. Some were pretty gruesome and sad too. This show had some balls.
Yeah, that wasn't fucking disney's Rebels
pg
not a kids show, it's for everyone
Pretty sure a lot of deaths are okay in a TV-PG show if they aren't bloody or something. But all the deaths plus the PG rating, use of alcohol, and suicide, it's hard to even call it a kids show.
A lot of people miss at 0:46, the magna guards intelligence to signal the other one to attack first, it's quite small of a detail but shows how capable they are
Good eye
This episode has been out for over a decade and I never noticed
That magnaguard was like “aye, hit em while he’s talkin”
They literally hit each other lmao
lol nice
1:57
"You fool, I've been trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku-"
"Yeah I know we've fought like eight times already."
I think that would be explained with Dooku's death.
Maybe Grievous said that because Dooku is now gone.
Maybe, maybe
"You fool, I've been trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku-"
"You do ralise that the guy I trained cut Dooku into 4 pieces like a week ago?"
@@Pro_Butcher_Amateur_Human That actually is Obi-Wan's response in the RotS novelization:
"That's funny, I trained the man who killed him."
Ah yess ensuring Anakin does not see Grievous to keep the plothole of their first meet out, but forgetting this part. Guess episode 3 needs a fix on that now haha
"Attack Kenobi!... As usual..."
3:55
RIP Clone Trooper 27745. You weren't even important enough to have a name. Just a number and 2 second cameo that will be remembered by no one.
Anime 4 Life but he’s stranded in space. His helmet only has limited oxygen
cant live, the space vaccum and space has no air, in season 6 we see clones use special air tanks to breath in space.
cant live, the space vaccum and space has no air, in season 6 we see clones use special air tanks to breath in space.
clone helmets supply emergency oxygen for about 30 minutes; if you want to do the slightest physical thing or breath for longer that's when you need the tanks
Colin Thorneycroft where did u see that written?
quite ironic that obi one says that the clone army has honour and loyalty hehe
Lewis Adcock ua
How so? The droid army wasn't programmed to have honor and loyalty. The Clone Army was. So...
...waaait...
At first the do but not until Order 66...
Lewis Adcock Obi-wan
They do have honour and loyalty what are you talking about?
Apart from the irony of Order 66, it's funny how Kenobi criticizes the droid army, when the Separatists actually believe it's far more humane, as they don't have to sacrifice actual lives.
In a way, the separatists are correct. Once the war is over, the droids can just shut down and be kept in storage. The clones, however, would be pretty much displaced in a peaceful society.
Wait seriously? Damn. I actually want to read a book about the separatist pov in this war. It would make clone wars more interesting than it already is
Johan S Yeah, from what I understand, a large chunk of the Separatist politicians are largely uninvolved with the military, and are more focused with helping improve the lives of their planets. As can be seen in one episode, where they were willing to negotiate peace.
Dooku, Gunrray and other corporate leaders are the ones in charge of the military.
@@datemasamune2904 OB1 didn't critisize droid army, but Grevious' motives. As a proud warrior and general, it's not like he can earn his army respect or inspire them, they're just droids... Hope U know what I mean
@@fiucik1 I get it, but that sorta makes less sense, considering that most of these B1 battle droids seem to respond to praise and threats like regular folk.
@@fiucik1 OB1 is a bitch
Has anyone noticed that grivious always dominates every fight with Jedi until they use the force
Well he didn't in ROTS
And when he fought Asajj
+ he alnost always has assistance of droids
SW PL it's like the force for him. The Jedi use the force. He uses his guards even out the fight
Yeah canon grievous tends to win his interactions with or without Magna guards, but it's not even the force that screws him over. It's plot armour. There's 2 times here where grievous could have used his other two arms to kill kenobi, but proceeded to just hold 4 lightsabers to his one blade. And this can be seen in literally every fight of his. Instead of using his arms to attack (weather it be 2 or 4) he instead just aims for peoples lightsabers. Then the victim gets away, uses the force grievous runs, and then he's a coward. The writers really screwed up an amazing character.
Here George Lucas missed a golden opportunity to actually give General Grievous some depth.
When Obi - Wan asks for his motivation, Lucas could of done this:
Obi - Wan boldly yelled: "An army with no loyalty! No Spirit! Just programming. What do you have to show for all your power? What do have you to gain?!"
General Grievous stopped suddenly and a brief silence filled the room as his head slightly bowed. He Looked at Obi - Wan with his eyes, the last clear vestige of his original body, and there was an obvious pain in them that Obi - Wan felt.
"I was there Obi - Wan. On the front lines leading my people to victory against a species that attempted to murder us. I was there when your race of Jedi rained down from the sky and killed my people like animals. I was there when my body was destroyed by your Jedi ships. What do I hope to gain you ask?"
He separated his two arms into four and drew out his light sabers.
"A Future. A Future where there are no Jedi!"
He Lunged forward, striking at Obi - Wan from all sides who was momentarily stunned by Grievous's story. Promptly leaping downwards out of the corner, Obi - Wan narrowly avoided Grievous's blows. Before Obi - Wan could even bring up his Lightsaber to defend himself, Grievous was on him, grabbing Obi - Wan's arm with his leg and throwing him into the ceiling. Using the force to push Grievous away, Obi - Wan fled the Control Room.
That's actually not a bad idea, i could see it happening but with Lucas under the control i don't think he would make Grievous like that as he sees Grievous differently, sadly in a way we don't see Grievous at all.
I would have preferred it if the dialogue went like that.
One little thing though, George doesn't have a huge amount of control on this show. Blame Filoni or the writer of this episode.
Actually, I might write a fanfic where that dialogue does go down between the two Generals.
Combine115 Thanks for liking it :)
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He may not be the proud, powerful Jedi slaughterer like he was in the old canon, but to be fair, he fought well and the only thing that kept him from killing Kenobi was plot armor.
and soresu
Lam Wing Fung I said it during the clone wars cartoon, the movie, then the animated series. The creators of SW media apparently have no idea how electronic, pneumatic or hydraulic actuators work. The idea that Kenobi could even hold steady the lifeless husk of general grievous leaving over him, is ridiculous in itself, even with the force reenforcing his movements. But that thing is a moving robot. Even of we take into account the "weakest" of the 3 popular actuator technologies, that is, electronic, we have a robot that is several times more powerful than a human could ever be. And just to clarify, grievous's arms, though they are not consistent in their appearance, generally share characteristics of hybrid technology, to either hydraulic or pneumatic, aided with electronic for fingers and tje famous lightsaber-rotation stuff. I don't think I have to question whether Kenobi can match a hydraulic motor in strength.
Bottomline, Soresu or not, there is no possible way he is a match for the general. Not even the magnaguards for that matter. After the first attack from the general, his lightsaber would be yanked right out of his hand.
Horváth Benedek Jedi are not ordinary humans. You're only questioning Sci-Fi logic, which is kind of pointless to criticize.
ryhansen1 They can use the force, but other than that, they don't have superhuman strength. Or if and when they do, they have to use immense force powers to fuel it.
And I know it is cheap to argue about this, it just makes so little sense. Vader could strangle a man with his bionic hand by just grabbing them by the throat. Not too many people can do that, which means it is reasonable that even in star wars, machines are quite strong. I also remeber a scene in the CW animated series where a clone punches a droid in the chest, and the droid doesn't even flinch , while the clone sprains his hand or something(NOT super battle droid, just a regular battle droid.), again suggesting that under the skeletal exterior and comical appearance, they are massive war machines. I just want consistency. And since is is impossible, I lile bitching about it.
You must be fun at parties.
“You wouldn’t come here without a plan.” That’s what we all thought, then the sequel trilogy came out.
This killed me🤣 it's too accurate
Lol
And the Prequals smh
@@deonnelson9780 nah george had a plan for the whole thing it's just the execution fell short in a few areas
@@spicysnowman8886 & still was better than the sequel trilogy
To be fair Grievous' motivations for a future without Jedi are justified in a way. Before becoming the lead General of the droid army, his species the Kaleesh had a rivalry with a neighboring species called Huk. The Jedi sided with the Huk against the Kaleesh. Sometime later on a bomb was set inside of his ship which fatally injured him but not killing him. He later woke up to Count Dooku who actually planted the bomb in Grievous' ship but Dooku told Grievous that the Jedi did it. This is also the simplified backstory of General Greivous for people who didn't know.
Also Greivous isn't the General's real name. It's Qymaen jai Sheelal.
In Canon as established by this show, that’s not actually his backstory anymore. Instead, Grievous chose to transform himself into a cyborg through successive enhancements in his quest to drive the Jedi from his homeworld. His warrior backstory remains the same, but he is no longer a victim of Dooku’s manipulation.
@@a.morphous66 That just sounds stupid and dumbed down. It sounds......Disneyfied.
@@sarcasticsaber8902 I think it gives him more agency, which is a good thing in a villain backstory when you’re not trying to create a tragic or sympathetic villain like Grievous isn’t.
@@sarcasticsaber8902 Well in this case it isn't
@@a.morphous66 I like to think of Grevious as another pawn lead astray by Dooku. Obi did call him Dooku's errand boy.
Basically the only Clone Wars encounter where Grievous actually displayed strenght and intelligence.
On Episode III, their main focus was the fall of Anakin Skywalker, the rise of Darth Vader, and Darth Sidious revealing himself to exact vengeance on the Jedi. They needed Darth Tyranus and General Grievous to wrap up the Clone Wars.
It's pretty much as I've stated many times, they should have made his presence more limited and reduced his appearances in the show. The biggest problem was he was over used in episodes where he didn't need to be around.
+The Lich Grievous did display good skill in season 5, episode 8, Bond for Rescue.
Ian Li Is that the episode where he eludes Obi Wan's manhunt on him after a crashlanding on Salucemi ?
+The Lich No, it was when Grievous boarded Obi Wan's ship and forced him to abandon ship after setting it to self-destruct, but with Grievous escape the ship's destruction
Ah man. I wish instead of the already stupified Obi vs Grievous they should have used some No-name-Jedis which get killed by Grievous. I mean what should the poor guy do against Plot Armor?
+TurKlack Fun fact dave filoni originally was going to have grievous kill Eeth Koth. But then he had second thoughts because he thought he might want to use the character later on. Years later and he never did (unless I am mistaken). Which is a darn shame grievous killing a jedi master/council member. Might have helped in convincing people he earned the title of knightslayer.
It is possible that he may have been used in seasons 7 and beyond if the show did not get canceled
Aura Force Well part of the unaired season 7 seemed to have just been focusing on Anakin obi wan and more mace windu (YAY). And dark disciple might have made it to TV instead of just being a book.
+KON- EL Grievous kills a female jedi in the uncut version of Episode III. Although she was on her knees and he just executed her.
You mean shaak ti. Yeah I know about that cut scene but it isn't canon anyways. As it stands shaak ti fate is in the hands of disney.
"Obi wan vs General Grievous fight"
*Do you have the slightest idea of how little that narrows it down?*
Well, the only one where we got to see Greivous hold his own.
@@AverageEldritchEntityDestroy Malevolence, Bound for Rescue, ARC Troopers
Just because you have bad memory doesn't make Grievous a bad fighter
What I love about this fight is something I learned from someone else. The reason mace windu never wanted to fight grievous is because he can mimic fighting styles and the style mace uses is very aggressive. However obi wan uses a very defensive style forcing grievous to go on the attack hindering his ability to mimic the style
Exactly, it's a nice touch. Obi-Wan's style being suited to blocking blaster bolts specifically (which are akin to blocking multiple lightsabers) also makes him the perfect counter to Grievous, hence why he was picked for Utapau over Windu or any other Jedi Master.
That's actually a pretty fun idea
Then again, with that idea Grevieous could just ignore Obi Wan and not care about him forcing Obi Wan to attack and copy him regardless
@@randomshittutorials tbf we are talking about the same grevious who took lightsabers as trophies and believed jedi were the reason for his disfigurement… ignoring or not fighting a jedi is a HARD pill for him to swallow
No he lost because plot armor, grievous could have won many times during this dual.
"Most powerful droid army" *Droid dies 2 seconds after*
The key word there is "Army".
Vayrone yea and there are quadrillions of those droids so yea it’s very powerful
Well it was obi wan and he was fighting for like 2 minutes so yeah just one can stand up against kenobi
Some droids are dangerous: ig serie, magnaguards, droideka, droid camando, etc
The power is in the numbers
Damn if the Sepratist really wanted to win they should've switched to mass producing Commando Droids, they cut down clones as fast as clones cut down standard battle Droids.
The problem with this is that the CIS and the republic were both controlled by Palpatine, who wanted to drag the war out and kept both sides more or less balanced.
True
The Separatist are lucky the Republic didn't mass produce Clone Commandos.
why would he want that though?
if the CIS is strong enough they could just take down the Republic
making that complicated plan with the coup thing not needed
+ Dr. Boring you can't create Clone Commandos
they start out as any other clone and then they rise up in the rank of CC
even if they could it would cost way more than the average clone
and if you remember just making normal clones nearly bankrupted the Republic
Obi-Wan Kenobi: "Surrender General"
General Grievous: "NEVA!"
Sounds like he's saying NEVA but he does say Never you can hear the r at the end a little
1:45 and then obi wan’s precious army with “spirit and loyalty” betrays the Jedi, because of their *programming* props to the script writers, they knew how to plan ahead
Well it’s not really planning ahead, EP 3 was out for a while now.
1:55 That does technically happen, a future with no Jedi. ^.^ Pity Grievous never lived long enough to see that day...
No there is still luke skywalker who isn't dead yet
True, very true. ^.^
+Kryten Mark but that is if you count him as a jedi as i don't believe he was ever knighted
Well, to me, he's a Jedi anyway.
+Kryten Mark well yeah i see what you mean,started training padawns again,don't mention ben solo(kylo ren) xD
You gotta admit. Despite Grevious's not so impressive fights, he can make some good comebacks when just talking.
"Not so impressive fights" The guy has tuberculosis and is non force sensitive while being able to wipe out thousands of jedi and I think his arrogance enjoyment makes him even a better leader general honestly if he would have had the support of Palatine and count dooku with more enforcement the war would be over with separatists Winning it so yeah I don't think it's right to say he didn't make impressive fights the guy was literally a combat beast without the best armor and without force welding powers
@@Dav624 I dont even remember making this comment loll, but back then i think i compared him too much with the 2003 clone wars grievous and how his fights in this show was less impressive and we usually saw him losing and never actually saw his victories in the war. Whatever my opinion was back then, yea i agree that he was making the most out of what he had which is impressive
@@tedshin9806 oh I thought u were talking about grievous in general not in the context of him on the 2003 clone war in comparison with this
I like the battlefront 2 quip he makes to Obi-Wan about Anakin, and even Obi-Wan had to give him the “touché.”
I can't stand when people call General Grievous a coward. He's always willing to stand his ground and fight and he only retreats when he's at a tactical disadvantage. He was more than willing to fight Kenobi until he used the force on him, obviously Grevious can't use the force so that's a major advatnage over him that would get him killed. Why would he stick around for that? Lmao. He has fought several Jedi at once several times being quick and stealthy, some have also called this cowardly when in fact Grevious had the advantage and kept it. He's no coward, he's just a very smart soldier. The only time Grevious made a mistake in this judgement was when he fought Kenobi for the last time and thought Kenobi was down, in which the force was his downfall. Grevious was very good at playing the gambler's game, but every dog has his day. Grevious was no coward.
Back in 2003, those were the good days.
and Kenobi can't use 4 arms nor 4 light sabers while fighting 1 v 2, Grevious is indeed a coward and should have died here
@@yep1486 goofy
@@yep1486 You don't understand the previous comment nor pay attention to the video.
@Alex Souster He fell down. Falling isn't a loss. We've seen him get up many times and block lightsaber attacks while on the ground, i.e. Kit Fisto. That was also more than just falling, he had no legs and was fighting 2 Jedi and a clone unit and he still held his own. He just underestimated her and realized beating her would take longer than he thought, which he didn't have time for. His mission was to kill the witch that was literally about to kill Dooku.
Grevious Saying “I’m no errand boy” is the greatest part of the clone wars. I love it 😂
“Nuh-uhh! No I’m nooooot!”
I really like how Obi-wan called Grievous Dooku's errand boy
I loved Obi Wan's "certain point of view" reference here.
Rebels ain't got shit on this series.
It may shock you, but it is possible to enjoy both shows.
+Thaal Sinestro
Both shows are good in their own rights, except CW had much more battlefield violence and death whereas Rebels is mostly centered around the shenanigans of one group.
joshua kim around kiddie shenanigans*
I can tell you the inquisitors don't block with four lightsaber when they can block with only one. And use a free hand unlike dummy over here.
"An army with no loyalty" - looks who's talking.
technically they are loyal to the republic not to the jedi
@@masterchief4766 exactly
The clones were extremely loyal to their brothers and the republic. That's why the ARC troopers and the jedi didn't really get along, differing ideologies about the war
The clones might have themselves fooled into thinking their loyalty and spirit is real. But if you don't know anything else, and are created, brainwashed, and programmed to be that way, how can it be real?
They are a slave army who fight for a government with anti-slavery laws. Do the clones even know anything about the Republic they're fighting for, if they've grown up in Kamino's sterile laboratories, so far away from the culture, society, and policies of the Republic?
At the end of the day, despite what the clones themselves may think, it is only programming.
Slick betrayed his fellow clones, the Jedi, and the Republic right at the beginning of the war; but when your only options are loyalty and sacrifice, or treason and loss, there is still no choice.
@@mitchellhayward6492 why does it always rain 24/7 on the planet kamino
Kenobi: It's over, Grievous! I have the Plot armor!
Grievous: So am I.
Kenobi: Oh, yeah........
Grevious is THE coolest star wars villain
+NeverSaySandwich1 Agreed!
It's a shame that he's also the only Star Wars villain to get a severe nerf...and one so ball-busting that his entire reputation was almost completely destroyed.
+joshua kim it's nowhere near as bad as what happened to boba fett though, I think he got a much more raw deal then grievous
Yup. At least Grievous was killed by Obi-Wan. Boba Fett got fucking eaten by an immobile sandoctopus.
After Vader you mean!
this is so dumb, he has 4 sabers but chooses to swing it all at the same angle in the same direction at the same time, he could literally just left one for defense and the other 3 for stabbing and obi wan would have been dead in one blow exchange -.-
What is "dumb" is that Grievous survived so long. He has the some of the best plot armor ever.
+r savage m8
This is why 2003 Greivous is better. He only used his extra arms for surprise attacks and was actually good in a fight.
Why wouldn't that make sense? He's suppose to be attacking them constantly, staying close and never allowing them the chance to use their Force abilities outside of their augmentation. It makes perfect sense...
Yomil Dank
Are you forgetting that Grevious has the capability to jump and move very fast as well due to his cybernetics? It wouldn't be that easy for most Jedi.
Grievous deserves so much more love. Should have remained a staple in the series.
Can we just all agree that obi-wan looks amazing in his republic armor?
When doesn't he look amazing?
Why’d they have to get rid of the armor during season 3, I actually prefer it over there normal prequel clothes, at least for The Clone Wars
@@craftsstore7057 they got rid of it because they need to connect the series to the movies and in the movies he never wears it
I prefered his Clone Armor
It’s the same one he had in 2003 series.
2003 grievous would never let any of this shit slide
Aiden Macky 2003 TCW was way to exaggerated. Grievous was to strong and everithing exploded, maybe it was directly by Michael Bay. XD
Aiden Macky
have you seen how over the top grevious was in that series?
his level of power made no sense when you realize that he was just a disposable pawn
Anthony Rodriguez honestly
+Anthony Rodriguez
Well, he was supposed to be the equalizer to the jedis. He kind of needed to be obnoxiously overpowered to justify the droid army ever being of any threat whatsoever against the jedi.
joshua kim the droid army was just fine without grevious
They had ventress durge dooku and literally trillions of Battle droid's with hundreds of variation
I don't think they needed grevious
I wish we could have seen Grievous fight some more lesser known Jedi so he could kill them without worrying about the plot
He does that in the fight at his lair.
Nadar Vebb
@@lukebell4738That's a rookie knight. Have a squad of jedi, with a council member and maybe 1 or 2 others grievously wounded. Basically 2003 hypori.
"An army with no loyalty, no spirit, just programming!"
says the guy leading an army that was born for the soul purpose for war without caring about their own ambitions, who will turn on you without a second thought because of protocols
exactly, tankbreed soldiers brainwashed since birth who have no rights or thoughts of their own forced to fight a war they have no role in. real pot calling the kettle black situation.
@@theswedishdude1 ....What? The fuck? What the fuck are you smoking?
2:50 imagine that running towards you during midnight in a hallway
Yup
I was just thinking that.
I've seen it in Battlefront
0:45 from a certain point of view
WELL MY POINT OF VIEW THE JEDI ARE EVIL
Dalek ShitPoster From a certain point of view?!
*"WELL, THEN YOU ARE LOST!"*
There are so many reasons why the Legends version of General Grievous was a much better character than the new canon Grievous in Clone wars, they really messed him up hard. If the writers of the Clone Wars wanted to have a incompetent brute they should have kept the bounty hunter Durge.
The Old General Grievous was a tragic tale of a hero who became a monster because he was doing what he thought was right but became consumed by anger based on lies from Count Doku foreshadowing the fall of Anakin to becoming Darth Vader based in the lies of Emperor Palpatine. In fact General Greivous was meant to be a prototype of the cybernetics program that gave Darth Vader his life support suit.
...wait...why didn't they use Durge for this now that i think about it? They scraped through the entire jedi barrel to dig up every random ass jedi with the tiniest of references, yet they never bothered to bring Durge in on this, even when they introduced several bounty hunters later on?!
Bysthedragon regardless, the 2003 clone wars was way too good. That was it's flaw, it out shined and over hyped episode 3. Every single complaint about the prequel trilogy was resolved in a measly 2 hours and 15 minutes. That's the reason they didn't want it as canon, because it shows that they could've done something great with the prequels instead of what we got.
+Joshua kim they intended to make Durge but scrapped him in favor of Cad Bane. Maybe the Animation of his mutated form would have been too expensive.
They probably wanted to keep Star Wars a bit realistic. I mean, a species with no organs? No brain? No heart? Just muscle?
Darth Vader Science fiction isnt supposed to be realistic lol
2:20 I know they don't want to make Grievous overpowered again, but I can't help but always look at these 1 vs 4 lightsaber fights. He strikes Obi-Wan with all 4 lightsabers, and while Obi-Wan is trying to deflect Grievous could easily remove 1 arm and stab Obi-Wan right in the chest, whilst still having 3 lightsabers keeping Obi-Wan on the defensive. Heck, you could do a lot with 4 lightsabers-- Though you know... I guess thinking like that would easily end a lot of lore, hah!
Thinking like that grevious would end alot of the series characters lmao
Funny enough in the original clone wars series before Grivious got his injury, that is how he would fight. Now he fights more passively
He does that quite often and Obi wan just dodges or parries.
I love it when the bad guys scream NEVER! Classic.
They over killed it with the amount of times Obi-Wan has fought General Grievous
And then you realise General Grievous is taller than Obi Wan, so he technically has the high ground....
Little known fact Obi-Wan is also powerful from the low ground. He beats Maul and Grevious while hanging below them.
@@DebTheDevastator and he can still troll people with insults like at 1:29. Because that insult was PRICELESS!!!!😂😅🤣👍
no. The ground is where a person stands on and is elevated. Grievous is taller. Much more than what anakin expected.
0:37 Obi-Wan taking the high ground for a moment
Grievous is Spooderman confirmed.
2:49 spider grievous will never fail to make me laugh, scared and satisfied at the same time
Who else hates it when a clone dies????!!!!!
I do. But I also hate it when Battle Droids die, too.
No i love it when they die
I
Well, it IS a war
1:38
Grievous: I am the leader of the most powerful droid army
Me: Obi wan is killing a droid right in front of you
1:10 WOW! Nice dodge Grievous!
There will, and always will be a future with Jedi, Grievous. Sadly, you won't live to see it.
Someone hasn't seen the latest Star Wars trailer
Not if Disney has anything to say about it.
Dude your not obi wan
The way I've always watched the future, General. By serving the will of the Force.
Notice how on 2:05 obi wan does the same move on grievous he does on ROTS except here on their first proper lightsaber duel he gets knocked down by grievous (yes i mean proper cause in their first encounter they only briefly touched blades and grievous wasnt using 4 lightsabers) so nice reference to ROTS
Obi Wan’s subconscious: “Use the force lol, that’s his weakness”
Obi Wan: “Make me”
Obiwan can’t use the force because grievous is so fast for him to and using the force requires concentration which is why grievous always retreats when Jedi use the force because that creates distance between grievous and the Jedi allowing them to use the force easily
"I've been trained in your JEDI ARTS by Count Dooku."
"Oh cmon, stop talking like you're fighting me for the first time."
"Oh, sorry, Kenobi. I just didn't watch the show."
2:20 Practically the ONLY time in the whole series that Grievous fighting style with four lightsabers was accurately portrayed in the series, for about five seconds.
3:00 that look actually tells a lot. Obi-wan maybe touched some strings and memories in Grievous...
*later, on Utapau.* Grevious: "You fool, I've been trained in your Jedi arts by count Dooku." Obi-wan: "I know, we've fought before remember?"
Maybe that can be explained with Dooku's death? What if he said that because Dooku is now gone? Or idk
@@xd51000 This series stretches the limits of the continuity like freaking taffy, I have to joke about it. At least Genndy Tartakovsky's version stayed somewhat faithful to the continuity of the movies, even if it was a much shorter series. Granted we wouldn't have Ahsoka so...fair trade.
Obi Wan & Grievous had never met before Ep 3. They could not have met face to face in Clone Wars. This whole scene is a major contradiction.
Goddamn Grievous is intimidating in lightsaber combat.....not as intimidating as his 2003 variant but I can see how fighting him would be rather terrifying.
You know it's sad when this is one of General Grevouis's better moments in the CGI clone wars series.
Austin Smith yes, because he didn't do better
What about when he stormed dathimor?
Or when he attacked Obiwans fleet
Or the battle of kamino
The best part of this scene was where Grievous revealed his sole motivation: he was in it strictly for the war itself. Leading armies and killing made him content. Lawful Evil.
I’d argue he’s Neutral Evil. To be Lawful, he would have to follow some sort of code, but he hardly even pretends to do that. He just wants to kill Jedi, and the power is something he certainly enjoys, but it’s mostly just a means for him to eliminate the Jedi Order.
@@a.morphous66 He follows the orders of both Darth Sidious and Dooku, so he obeys their laws.
Grievous: The story of Obi-Wan Kenobi ends here!
Kenobi: *literally end his whole career on Utapao*
In reality, Kenobi blasted Grievous' chest with the blastgun, which Kenobi considered it as "Uncivilized" or something like that.
obi wan sent those 2 clone pilots to their deaths :(
Yes I thought when I first saw the episode
He basically sent them there, then left them behind
To the bridge I mean
This is stupid then why grievous acts like he never fought kenobi in episode 3 ? "You fool, I've been trained in your jedi arts by Count Dooku" Remember ?
Just because Kenobi fought Grievous before doesn't mean he knew it was Dooku who trained him. Plus, when they meet on the bridge of the invisible hand, they seem to have a history with each other. However, episode 3 was the first time Grievous and Anakin met in person. The Clone Wars made sure of that.
You gotta give it to grievous man!! He can hold his own against Jedi! even without the force and against their quicker reflexes
joe cormier True!!! In his life he killed more than 1000 jedis
Dart Nihilus no he didn’t he killed around 200-400 Jedi
That's because he has like 4 lightsabers lol
@@spider-man3576 that has nothing to do with it lol. Plus he uses just two 90% of the time and takes on jedi masters
And he can shrugged off insults thrown at him like in 1:32 to back up his power.
1:20 He's unknowingly describing Anakin's future.
Especially the errand boy part. That always makes me laugh.😂😅🤣👍
I fucking love that dialogue between Kenobi and Grievous
I love how Grievous just laughs and chuckles at everything like it makes him so happy to fight like he can never lose the ultimate smack talker to when he does .... Hardest villain in star wars no cap 💯💯💯
2:53, Obi-wan sent those two pilots to their deaths.
He really did, those two poor bastards exploded in one of the worst ways possible.
I would have loved to see grievous figure everything out and survive the clone wars
His story arc had the potential to be the best
If there's no thumbnail, I'd be like, which one of these is it now lol.
"You fool! I've been trained in your Jedi arts by Count Dooku!"
"Yeah I know I've fought you before"
In all fairness Grievous performed pretty damn well, he had Kenobi pushed back on his heels that entire fight up until he used the force. Even after that he was able to force his way past him to escape capture and even sent him flying down the ramp in their second(albeit very brief) engagement. Respect grievous!
I find it really annoying how the whole sequence that starts at 0:33 is flipped horizontally (it's not edited for the purpose of this video, this error is in the original episode).
I am curious to know what the hell Obi Wan would have done if Grevious just attacked from 4 different positions at once...
he would have been fucked
To be honest if it was "realistic" nobody could defeat a cybord with 4 swords precisely because of that, here grievous always strikes in the same direction because otherwise parrying successfully vs him would be impossible.
True.. I always seem to forget that movies are not supposed to be realistic, at least not the fantasy and sci-fi ones and even then.. Why do I question a Cyborg's fighting methods when there are way more unrealistic things to question.. Such as magic space wizards..
MrMaho Indeed ^^
Because obiwans lightsaber form was adapted to deflecting from multiple angles
When you realized that Obi Wan corrected his mistake of jumping over him in and got it right in Revenge of the Sith.
“An army with no loyalty just programming” hmm seems kinda ironic
I hate when he fights in this he literally attacks the lightsaber. Each arm is stronger than obi-wans and yet he needs all four of them to block. Block with one and attack with the other three.
Is it much stronger ? Obi-Wan could easily bend Durasteel plates with bare hands.
Arms are longer but definitely not that strong
I-/ /-B yeah that’s what you call idiotic writing and plot armor....
If one arm is too weak, then he should consider 2 arms for blocking and 2 for offense.
Now that might not be so "fun" if grievous just kills Obi Wan.
But I guess it would make things more interesting if the Jedi would have to kill grievous another way, without duelling.
I don't know, that's just what I think.
@@JohnSapato
You know they could just swing him with force if they wanted to..
Wow the 212th really did a good job holding the line
Why wasnt the conversation between these 2 in Episode 3! That was great!
because lucas is a hack sometimes
Although a minor detail, I like how perfectly circular the cut into the door was
“The future, a future where there are no Jedi!”
That’s some damn good foreshadowing
I miss this show
Adi gallia gives me life that jump at the end was so friggin cool like idk
I feel as Obi-Wan tried harder to turn Grivoues to the light than he did with Anakin on Mustafar, just seems weird
grievous isn't force sensitive, and his goals are fairly simple straightforward ones without much thought put into it. Usually those people are easier to direct towards one path or another, but Grievous isn't exactly cooperative.
It’s awesome how Obi-Wan short talks with Grievous lol
0:14 Imagine if Grievous went first xD
OMG YOU'RE BACK YOUR PROFILE PICTURE CHANGED!
"a future where there are no Jedi" huh, well he kinda gets that wish granted in the original and sequal movies
Then Rey Skywalker thawed that wish.
0:07 you know you're screwed when you see that in Star Wars. In rainbow six siege, you know hibana's out for you now.
nobody:
my dog when the vaccum cleaner turns on: 2:48
Oddly enough General Kenobi literally says everything what Anakin would become in just a few years and he doesn’t even know it 1:25 "A futile quest for power, a mutilated body" 😔
Obi Wan then says General Grievous is a puppet for Dooku and a errands boy much like Vader would be for the Emperor. But Grievous says he isn’t in the war for Dooku politics which is similar to Vader. Vader only fought for the Emperor to become powerful enough to kill Jedi out of spite and to defeat the Emperor so he could rule the Galaxy.
Actually, he wanted to save Padme's life mostly but became Palpatine's broken pitbull.😂😅🤣🐶
Kiron Gauff That was only for like one day in Ep.3 until Padme died compared to the full life of Darth Vader who wanted revenge from the Jedi & wanted to rule the galaxy.
@@user-yn8ll7fj1e but he was still Palpatine's broken errand boy.😂😅🤣
Kiron Gauff I know I said that in my first comment.
This is definitely one of my most favourite eps of clones wars because of the back n forth between obi-wan and grievous, it's such a good scene
Kenobi: Surrender General
Grievous: NEVAAAHHH
"An army with no loyalty..." boy that really came back to bite him in the ass.
At 2:27 why doesnt he gut Kenobi with his two lower arms? The network had to Nerf Grevious because one vs one he'd stomp anyone by virtue of having more lightsabers.
“ I here a lot of talking Anakin. But in the final accounting, where does all that talking get you? A futile quest for power, a mutilated body, and your place as Sidious’s errand boy!!!”
Wait
More like pitbull.😂😅🤣🐶
3:20 , grievous became the clash Royale king
Why is it all about kills?
Grievous defeated eeth koth and ashoka and Made Kit fisto flee from him
1. Eeth Koth - he fucking cheated, he used all those elite droids to help him and defeated Eeth after he was exhausted
2. Ahsoka was a Padawan, defeating Padawan isn't that impressive, you can do it with a good blaster no need for Lightsabers
3. Kit Fisto defeated him, he would have died if droids didn't come to rescue him.
And even in this fight he needs assistance of Droids. Canon Grievous is so pathetic that I'm suprised he got any Lightsabers at all.
SW PL you mad bro he kicked they asses deal with it
@@gabenewell3955 Becouse he had backup. You know if I called 4 friends and went to beat you up you wouldn't say "that guy beat me up" you would say "five guys beat me up" right ? If an adult beat up 10 year old kid you wouldn't say "wow you are so tough dude, you beat him up" right ? Then why should it be diffrent with Grievous?
SW PL yea and he doesn’t have the force it’s equal
fLy 1. grievous was clearly winning before the droids inferred
2. Ashoka during season 5 was as powerful as a Jedi Knight also Ashoka could contend with maul
3. Kit Fisto ran away from grievous and used the fog to his advantage