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  • Eric Bischoff reviews episode 3 of Who Killed WCW, produced by The Rock.
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  • @christophercomitini8619
    @christophercomitini8619 3 месяца назад +56

    The Death of WCW debate has lasted longer than the company itself.

    • @zachary_attackery
      @zachary_attackery 3 месяца назад +12

      it shouldn't even be a debate - Every Turner executive other than Ted wanted WCW gone before Nitro even started. The second the merger happened and Ted no longer had control, they got rid of WCW. Period, end of story.

    • @hansjuker8296
      @hansjuker8296 3 месяца назад

      ​@@zachary_attackerythank you!

    • @auggie87
      @auggie87 3 месяца назад

      I was gonna say. I feel like the debate/question has almost lost meaning.

    • @wcm5636
      @wcm5636 3 месяца назад

      @@auggie87yet here we are still

    • @SuperPick12
      @SuperPick12 3 месяца назад

      Knzvc 6:30 54o2t
      Nn92zo.ngob yx😊​@@hansjuker8296

  • @andrewculp8291
    @andrewculp8291 3 месяца назад +29

    Episode 3 was the first time I ever heard that David Arquette as champion was Tony Schivione's idea.

    • @jameslarishjr429
      @jameslarishjr429 3 месяца назад +4

      I heard that before that's why I don't respect Tony like I used too.

    • @jwilhite12357
      @jwilhite12357 3 месяца назад +4

      @@jameslarishjr429I’ve also heard that everyone involved was ok with the idea until the shit started hitting the fan. Then everyone threw Russo under the bus.

    • @Rschr101
      @Rschr101 3 месяца назад

      It was mentioned on this show early on.

    • @chico1680
      @chico1680 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@jwilhite12357 At the end of the day, it's on Russo for green lighting it. Bischoff has to hold the blame equally for that as well

    • @lac818
      @lac818 3 месяца назад

      @@Rschr101no it wasn’t. Conrad just said it’s the first he heard of it

  • @LRM5195
    @LRM5195 3 месяца назад +5

    I do disagree that Russo came in and made it worse. To me he made it exciting, albeit bad direction and storylines, but at least exciting and unpredictable. 1999 was so fn boring and unwatchable imo

  • @nickeiben4635
    @nickeiben4635 3 месяца назад +16

    Bischoff saying he hadnt ever met a delusional liar...he's known Hogan for years.

    • @TonyDanza4Lyfe
      @TonyDanza4Lyfe 3 месяца назад +1

      Eric is just a more articulate Vince Russo at the end of the day. Both are in salesmen mode 24/7 but at least when you listen to bischoff you don’t want to blow your brains out. He’s a hogan sycophant who only uses hogan because hogan only uses everybody else in existence. If they were gay they’d be married.

  • @kellyremple8982
    @kellyremple8982 3 месяца назад +9

    At 17:00 Eric claims he and Hulk Hogan left Daytona Beach satisfied that everything went as planned, and Hulk was ok with how the Jarrett finish ended, and didn't even know Russo "went in business for himself" and cut that promo until their plane landed in Tampa. But I JUST listened to Hogan do a Bubba The Love Sponge interview (from the next day after Bash at the abeach) where Hogan claims he did NOT know Jarrett was going to lie down, and claimed he WAS in the building when Russo cut the promo, wanted to confront him, but Doug Dillinger begged him to just leave the building and not confront Russo.
    Which is it Eric? You and Hogan's story from the very next day after BATB are completely different.
    What a fool.

    • @MrRevolutionNine
      @MrRevolutionNine 3 месяца назад +5

      Russo's story has remained the same. There's a reason Hulk & Eric's story got thrown out of court twice as they couldn't get their own version of the story on the same page.

    • @bxbomber85
      @bxbomber85 3 месяца назад +1

      Eric will always find a way to dunk on Bret or Russo but will never address any questions about him and Hulk

  • @DavidH1
    @DavidH1 3 месяца назад +11

    Conrad is rocking more than Ricky Morton, Robert Gibson, Shawn Michaels, and Marty Jannetty combined...

    • @ianwebb8066
      @ianwebb8066 3 месяца назад +1

      But what about Jesse Ventura

    • @aceloco817
      @aceloco817 3 месяца назад +1

      Hahaha! That foo coulda just got up to take a piss real quick. Conrad is annoying just by sitting there. 😂

    • @adriancano5403
      @adriancano5403 2 месяца назад

      Jesse Ventura rocks his ass off..haha

  • @jimkon1479
    @jimkon1479 3 месяца назад +18

    Brad Siegel never told Russo that Eric is his boss. Just the lack of communication in that company is just unreal.

    • @TonyDanza4Lyfe
      @TonyDanza4Lyfe 3 месяца назад +2

      That was my biggest takeaway. Of COURSE Vince Russo is going to assume he’s equally in charge. That said, I watched it again, and it’s clearly Russo trying to manipulate the audience. He says he doesn’t understand or that he was going to work WITH Eric, but I can bet you that he was told Eric would have more power. Also, Russo is incredibly gullible. They’d show BS(what a pos that dork is)/Eric discussing a concept, and they somehow Jedi mind ducked Vince into not only doing it, but thinking it was his idea. That ready to rumble spot came from the top 100%. They wanted to promote that movie and BS/Busch/Eric were forced to do this and Vince someone walks away thinking he came up the plan. He was only in charge for three months it seems. Obviously it became more after BATB. Plus I’m sure Eric and hulk did tell Vince to say something but he went into business for himself in front of that audience. He was destroying the entire company on purpose in that promo. For that alone he should never have been allowed back to even get that second chance in 02 before leaving again. What a little bitch; he quit with no notice over the phone when they kinda needed him. Just an absolute dickhead. Brrooooooo. I wonder how many bros they had to edit out because I heard very few

    • @nwo2cool
      @nwo2cool 3 месяца назад +1

      Brad Siegal never told Bischoff that he does not want Hogan on TV anymore because he was too expensive. Russo claimed that he was ordered by Siegal to get rid of Hogan. Russo even claimed Siegal told him not to give Hogan a phone call after the ppv, which led to a lawsuit against Russo for defamation of character, and WCW for breach of contract.

    • @RagingUtai
      @RagingUtai 3 месяца назад

      ​@@nwo2cool i don't know who is telling the truth, siegal or russo.

    • @nwo2cool
      @nwo2cool 3 месяца назад

      @@RagingUtai I'll take Russo's words out of everybody who was involved. I've listened to Bischoff and Hogan's side of their stories, it didn't fit. Hogan claimed he didn't know about Russo's scathing promo on him, and didn't know about the plan to make Booker T the new WCW champion. Bischoff claimed the plan was for Hogan to walk out of the title disgusted without having a match, and the plan was to crown a new WCW champion at Halloween Havoc, and then Hogan returned to defend his real World title. Maybe that plan was supposed to happen until Brad Siegal scrapped it, telling Russo not to call Hogan after the ppv. Siegal backstabbed Bischoff. Bischoff even stated on the Dark Side of the Ring that the plan was for Hogan to leave the building before Russo's promo. Russo also claimed he told tell Hogan to leave the building because so can cut the scathing promo on him, if Hogan was still in the building, he would've come out to kill him. Bischoff and Hogan even celebrated on the jet. So who do you believe?

  • @cmfarmer53
    @cmfarmer53 3 месяца назад +7

    Conrad can't go an episode without mentioning AEW....He really needs to go.

    • @John-k3v2f
      @John-k3v2f 3 месяца назад +3

      Can't go without going back and forth in his chair as well lol

    • @cmfarmer53
      @cmfarmer53 3 месяца назад

      @@John-k3v2f Not wrong lmao

    • @HabsMike25
      @HabsMike25 3 месяца назад +1

      I am getting dizzy seeing Conrad going back & forth lol! Conrad needs to plug AEW. It makes Tony & Meltzer happy

  • @KaNCeRmm4life
    @KaNCeRmm4life 3 месяца назад +15

    Vince (in long form) always says basically the same thing Eric says, he says Hulk and Eric didnt know what Vince was gonna say in the promo, and that he didnt write anything down he just started ranting and got carried away, and then Brad told him not to call hulk the next day because he couldnt afford to pay him for extra dates, but he (Vince) says the plan was for hulk to come back at halloween havoc to do the unification match, but with him not calling combined with the boys, internet and dirt sheets all blowing up how Russo stuck it to Hulk, it gave Hulk in his mind confirmation of the idea that "yea Russo did full on screw me over here"

    • @cutekanjii
      @cutekanjii 3 месяца назад +5

      Hogan just couldn't handle not being in control of the situation for once in his career

    • @TonyDanza4Lyfe
      @TonyDanza4Lyfe 3 месяца назад

      @@cutekanjiifor real it’s just dawning on me after this series how big of a pos hulk is

  • @MrAhhh33
    @MrAhhh33 3 месяца назад +4

    Jesus fucking Christ can Conrad Thompson be a bigger Mark!?

  • @titanisback1
    @titanisback1 3 месяца назад +16

    The funny thing that Eric never talks about with Bash at the Beach 2000 is that Hogan walking out wasn't the main event. If Hogan walking out wasn't going to be the main event, what was scheduled to be the main event? Was it going to be a five minute match between Kevin Nash and Bill Goldberg for Scott Hall's contract? No, he knows that wasn't going to be the main event. Unfortunately, and conveniently, he doesn't remember what was supposed to be the main event for that show.
    Reality is Eric knows he's lying about Bash at the Beach 2000 and nobody around him will call him out on it. It was all a work, and scripted out beforehand, besides maybe Russo calling Hulk Hogan, a fictional character, bald.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 месяца назад +8

      Agreed. Russo's version makes more sense. Hogan needed to leave so Russo could cut the promo on him and make Booker vs. Jarrett. If Hogan was still in the building. His character would do something about that match.

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад +7

      @@kevinlee9929 Yep. I got the feeling a while ago that this whole podcast is about Bischoff spreading lies & half-truths to cover for himself & Hogan. And now I believe that more than ever.

    • @titanisback1
      @titanisback1 3 месяца назад +7

      @@kevinlee9929 Eric said six years ago that the world title story was supposed to end at Hogan walking out. You'd be hard pressed to find another WCW PPV where the world title story ended around 50 minutes before the end of the show. It just doesn't make a lick of sense at all if you use your brain. The more Eric talks about Bash at the Beach 2000 the more lies he tells about it.

    • @TonyDanza4Lyfe
      @TonyDanza4Lyfe 3 месяца назад

      After watching Russos promo, I don’t think anybody expected him to go that far. He crossed the line and just kept on walkin. You can see him losing it. He’s not that good of an actor. He was likely told to say hulk won’t be here that’s it. Instead he used a ppv like a therapy session while ranting like a child in front of millions. Moron

  • @lordnikon1393
    @lordnikon1393 3 месяца назад +5

    Conrad cant even read out a super chat with out getting bitter about what someone says about tony khan. Anyone got any takes on how much he is paying dave and conrad ?? Cause holy fuck cant even respect a fans super chat with out getting triggered

    • @SleepyRadio-tg1gw
      @SleepyRadio-tg1gw 3 месяца назад

      Whoa that's quite a stretch lol Conrad literally said "eh I don't know about that". The only one triggered here is you.

    • @lordnikon1393
      @lordnikon1393 3 месяца назад +1

      @@SleepyRadio-tg1gw nah man seems like you are with the truth. It's straight up rude and disrespectful. I know. I know. The truth hurts 😭 but you khan people will get over it. And before you go im an aew hater, I've been to every single Toronto show, even forbidden door. I've done my part. Have you ? They aren't lying about the crowds. Or what they do and just lay there for spots..it went from great to trash my dude.

  • @EarthdogGFX
    @EarthdogGFX 3 месяца назад +3

    Russo 4 AEW 💥✨️🎉🎉❇️#EOMREACTS☪️🎉🎉✨️💥

  • @GrymmJymm
    @GrymmJymm 3 месяца назад +4

    Russo the writer: “they hated me cuz they thought i was that guy on tv. Im not an a**hole, i gave the midcard guys tv time and world title shots!”
    Also Russo the writer:
    “Yeah I wrote myself as the wcw world champ on tv, mainly cuz I was better than 80% of wcw’s entire roster.”
    Thanks for the clarification, Vince.

  • @XtremeEffect
    @XtremeEffect 3 месяца назад +14

    Russo's comment about getting Eric fired goes back to his RUclips video recently where he said his creative at WWE is why Eric was sent home from WCW which is true. Eric was creatively bankrupt

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад +8

      Russo's RAW beat Bischoff's Nitro, plain and simple. Then Russo had more success in TNA than Bischoff too. on top of when Russo owned Bischoff & Hogan at BATB.

    • @XtremeEffect
      @XtremeEffect 3 месяца назад +5

      @@GeneLasker3 Exactly. That's why Bischoff continues to act like Vince McMahon wrote the Attitude Era and acts like Russo contributed nothing to wrestling. His bitterness really shows

    • @cjskylark6659
      @cjskylark6659 3 месяца назад

      Don't like bitchoff but he brought more success to WCW than Russo could ever

    • @JohnDoe-gk7ok
      @JohnDoe-gk7ok 3 месяца назад +3

      A lot of WWF’s creative during the Attitude Era was totally nonsensical. The Higher Power angle was the biggest clusterfark in history. “This is your life” was also stupid, but non-wrestling fans dug it. By the time Russo got to WCW, the ideas were no longer fresh and just came off as a poor imitation of Raw. Plus, WCWs top stars were not a good fit for the whole Jerry Springer approach. Kevin Nash and Scott Hall maybe, but the rest no. I remember he did this angle with Goldberg stalking him, and it was nearly the same as when Austin abducted Vince McMahon while he was in a wheelchair. There was no way Goldberg could pull that off like Austin. Goldberg didnt fit into that kind of presentation.
      I think it was clear from the beginning that Russo did not know how to properly book Goldberg. Turning him heel was really stupid, and then trying to make him Austin 2.0 was hopeless.

    • @TonyDanza4Lyfe
      @TonyDanza4Lyfe 3 месяца назад +1

      Well yeah duh. He’s never had an original idea. It’s all compiled from other peoples ideas. He’s just smooth enough as a conman- excuse me, businessman, to sell said derivative ideas. Live wrestling shows existed before nitro. He lucked into Kevin and Scott being as financially savvy as they were. If they didn’t exist, I can’t think of many wrestlers that could have ever pulled off their initial invasion

  • @jihadx5307
    @jihadx5307 3 месяца назад +30

    Russo was “the man” in the WWF from 1997-1999. In Mick Foley’s first book, he said Vince had backed off of creative, held a meeting with talent, admitted he was out of touch, was open to new ideas & began leaning heavily on Russo. In Rock’s book, he talks about storyline ideas coming directly from Russo’s head during their phone conversations & how they collaborated on Rock’s promos, etc.

    • @Misha-do6pe
      @Misha-do6pe 3 месяца назад

      Russo was porno wrestling

    • @ianwebb8066
      @ianwebb8066 3 месяца назад +2

      Yeah it's called hot shoting the territory

    • @MrRevolutionNine
      @MrRevolutionNine 3 месяца назад +6

      @@ianwebb8066 funny way of spelling no one has been up-to par with Russo's booking since.

    • @higler.
      @higler. 3 месяца назад +4

      Yep. Vince Russo and Paul Heyman created the attitude era. Meanwhile, Cornette was announcing on Sunday night heat lmao

    • @Rschr101
      @Rschr101 3 месяца назад +4

      The show was never better than when Russo was writing.

  • @Nclchitchat
    @Nclchitchat 3 месяца назад +18

    To play devil's advocate....I truly believe that Russo had the best of intentions during his run in both WWE and WCW. How he went about it and how he did it may not have worked but I think he had his heart in the right place. Russo was always about the underneath guy and the pushing younger talent. He clearly saw more stock and longevity in younger talent and I commend him on pushing for Booker T to be World Champion. Russo wasn't a wrestling guy and as he states he saw wrestling and a television show. He wasn't hung up or a mark for the big names like Hogan and Hart and that rubbed the egos of those people the wrong way. Bischoff would never have took a gamble and rolled the dice on Booker T as champion. In WWE Russo ensured that everybody on the roster from top to bottom had a character and a storyline which reduced they amount of filler matches.
    It must be really difficult to book wrestling in the modern era when everything has been done to death. When Russo got to WCW id imagine he was creatively spent after putting all his efforts in to WWE.

    • @zeromagnum2811
      @zeromagnum2811 3 месяца назад +2

      Going with younger talent isn't the wrong idea. But there is a wrong and right way to do it. You can't just completely push aside the established guys immediately and go straight to all the younger guys. It will mess up the storylines and once WCW started doing the creative resets that is what turned a lot of people off. Even more than anything like the finger poke or bash at the beach.

    • @Sting283
      @Sting283 3 месяца назад

      What turned a lot of ppl off was the overuse of the NWO. The ship didn't have a captain. The supposed captain let the passengers drive the boat.

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад +5

      WCW truly became the Hogan show as 1998 went on and into 1999. Bischoff & Hogan already made WCW boring and drove off the viewers before Russo got there. WCW was totally repetitive Hogan & Nash crap over and over and over.

    • @decepticonxhunter4850
      @decepticonxhunter4850 3 месяца назад +4

      All of Russo's good intentions go out the door on the merit that he inserted himself into the product as character, the main character, and then put the world title on himself. That undercuts any justification Russo tries to make about how he was supposedly trying to save the younger talent from Hogan. He was only thinking about himself, and the fact that he refuses to own his obviously bad decisions show it.

    • @zeromagnum2811
      @zeromagnum2811 3 месяца назад +2

      @@decepticonxhunter4850 He was copying the mr mcmahon angle from wwe with himself in mcmahons place. That was his intent with that i know it was. He was trying to mimic that angle;s success

  • @hhhguy2004
    @hhhguy2004 3 месяца назад +2

    "Russo im better then 80 percent of the guys on the roster" , the moment vunce russo said that is the moment he lost any respect from any real fans , that being if they had any respect for him before that !!

    • @HabsMike25
      @HabsMike25 3 месяца назад

      Scary part was Russo wanted to put WCW Title on Tank Abbot. Thank God Bill Busch put a stop to it.

  • @DamionStingerDrake
    @DamionStingerDrake 3 месяца назад +10

    I took Russo getting Eric “fired” as Russo’s contributions in WWF getting Eric fired.

    • @Sting283
      @Sting283 3 месяца назад +2

      Yep, and he said partly, not the main reason. There were a few things I didn't like about what Russo said, but that one was more than likely correct.

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад +5

      Russo's RAW beat Bischoff's Nitro badly, then Russo took Bischoff's job, and Russo owned Bischoff & Hogan at BATB, and Bischoff still hates Russo for it to this day.

    • @RagingUtai
      @RagingUtai 3 месяца назад

      Why was eric let go in the first place. Was it the kickback contract thing?

  • @XtremeEffect
    @XtremeEffect 3 месяца назад +15

    Eric doesn't have the balls to bring Russo on. Why wouldn't Eric wanna expose Russo then

  • @danzane5973
    @danzane5973 3 месяца назад +13

    Funny Bischoff thinks the original plan of Bash at the Beach 2000 was any better.

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад +2

      Bischoff thought all of his Hogan crap in late 98 and first half of 99 was good lol.

    • @danzane5973
      @danzane5973 3 месяца назад +1

      He's lived off one stolen idea for 30 years

    • @zachary_attackery
      @zachary_attackery 3 месяца назад

      Bash At The Beach was a work so Hogan could sue Turner and get a big payout before he decided to leave the company. He knew they'd settle out of court no matter how frivolous the lawsuit was, and they did

  • @higgs6023
    @higgs6023 3 месяца назад +28

    Russo saying he had something to do with Eric being fired was a reference to WWF beating WCW in the ratings and overtaking their audience. It wasn’t a lie.

    • @stevenbozic8604
      @stevenbozic8604 3 месяца назад +2

      No wonder Cornette wants to piss on Russo's grave. To lose your job not once but twice to a shit-stain cant be good for one's wrestling cred.

    • @NEMtvOfficial
      @NEMtvOfficial 3 месяца назад +5

      You beat me to it lol 2 minutes in and Bischoff clearly didnt understand what Russo meant..Russo was Head Writer on the other channel when the 83 Week Streak ended, this podcast is called 83 Weeks why? Why isnt it 105 weeks or 300 weeks? Because the Head Writer on the other channel was feeding Vince McMahon some epic television from 97-99...Russo played a part in Eric being Fired

  • @mikelarkin6697
    @mikelarkin6697 3 месяца назад +5

    The amount of hate Hulk Hogan gets is unwarranted. WCW wouldn’t have been anywhere near what it was without him.
    I actually watched the Starcade match and it is nowhere near as bad as some people make out. The count was fast, but not “too fast” so you have ambiguity there. It is almost like people have talked themselves into to a corner with this thing. If Sting just went out and crushed him it would have been an anticlimax. The finish, while not ideal, kept the NWO and Hogan viable.
    Hogan lost plenty of times, including to Roddy Piper in a big PPV, so I don’t think it’s as simple as saying Hogan wouldn’t put people over. Bischoff’s explanation sounds the most rational.
    Hogan was wrong to call for a slow count, but the referee did his best to split the difference from what I saw. Everybody could argue their corner on it.
    The fingerpoke thing was way more problematic. They devalued the title too much.

  • @XtremeEffect
    @XtremeEffect 3 месяца назад +10

    Why does no one ever have the balls to ask Eric why exactly Hulk Hogan needed to be World Champion at Bash at the Beach 2000 and what the main event was supposed to be. He's always lied about that whole incident. Hogan even said in an interview one time that he heard the idea and he was like "yeah brother then Booker can have a title and I come back at Halloween Havoc and say I have the real WCW belt". Eric seems very bitter that Booker T got his break

    • @Aizenborgman
      @Aizenborgman 3 месяца назад +2

      Because Hogan did everything Russo asked of him and it did not work. He lost more during that period than he won. Hogan agreed to Russo's ideas, which were not good at all. He lost to Kidman, Vampiro, The Wall, Mike Awesome, etc. You're talking as if all of Russo's plans for Hogan were great and brought in ratings and profits. Everything was bad. Why don't you want Hogan to beat Jeff and take the belt? Nash won the belt over Jeff, Ric Flair, and Diamond Dallas Page, so they defeated Jeff. Even Vince Russo scripted himself to win the world belt over Booker T later. The question is why do all these people have the right to win over Jeff, but the decision for Hogan to win is the wrong decision?? Don't you think it's funny when you think about it? All of Russo's plans failed, so let's try for Hogan to be the champion as long as all of Jeff Jarrett's matches did not succeed. Russo made Jeff the world champion and made him the main event in all the PPVs, yet he did not succeed. Do not act as if Hogan's decision to win was a mistake and as if everything else was fine. Hogan did not steal Booker T's moment. Because the original plan was, since Hulk won over Kidman at the Great American Bash, that if he beat Kidman, he would fight the world champion at Bash at the Beach, and the decision for Booker to win did not come until a day or two before Bash at the Beach. The match announced a month ago was Hulk Hogan vs. Jeff, not Booker T vs. Jeff. Hogan didn't steal his moment in the first place. In addition, what did the belt do to Booker T? He lost the belt to Russo lol.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 месяца назад +1

      Hogan didn't need it in 2000. Heck he didn't need it in 1999.

    • @Aizenborgman
      @Aizenborgman 3 месяца назад

      @@kevinlee9929 yes then lets put the belt on jeff and then wcw will win the war . Great

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Aizenborgman The belt was going to Booker T. Again. Hogan didn't need the belt. Booker did.

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад +3

      This. Bischoff is still lying for Hogan all these years later. WCW was already the Hogan Show for years at that point, it was boring and repetitive. Brad said it in the episode - Bischoff & Hogan's interest was not what was in WCW's best interest.

  • @jedimindtrick75
    @jedimindtrick75 3 месяца назад +6

    you could criticize WWE a LOT for the Invasion angle and how they handled some WCW guys. But what they did to DDP was borderline criminal.

    • @aceloco817
      @aceloco817 3 месяца назад

      What did they do to Dallas?

    • @Heller103085
      @Heller103085 3 месяца назад +1

      @@aceloco817first off being takers stalker, than they dogged the hell out of him to undertaker and kane, had takers WIFE win a match against him

    • @aceloco817
      @aceloco817 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Heller103085 oh damn! Lmao! It's been so damn long ago, I didn't remember any of that. Yeah, Vince did bury most of them dudes initially.

    • @markitosdopevlogs
      @markitosdopevlogs 3 месяца назад

      that’s what i
      hate about vince that piece of sh*t. ddp deserved better. karma f**king vince now is just about right. i don’t feel bad about him

    • @TheUnorthodoxEcclesia
      @TheUnorthodoxEcclesia 3 месяца назад

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @trelefebvre2805
    @trelefebvre2805 3 месяца назад +14

    Didn't Eric a week ago say he doesn't have anything personal against Russo?

    • @tededwards5709
      @tededwards5709 3 месяца назад +9

      Exactly. Always contradicting himself when it comes to the Russo thing. Refuses to talk with him

    • @scottmcginn2169
      @scottmcginn2169 3 месяца назад +1

      10 minutes after watching Russo bury him, Bischoff changes his view. You don't think that might change his mind?

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@scottmcginn2169 Why should it. As Eric stated. He's heard Russo say these things before.

    • @kaodik
      @kaodik 3 месяца назад

      ​@kevinlee9929 in this interview he said he heard things for the first time

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 месяца назад +2

      @@kaodik All the stuff Russo said on there he's said countless times.

  • @zachw4764
    @zachw4764 3 месяца назад +7

    So if Bischoff said he was overseeing creative and russo.. and the creative sucked. Bit hypocritical. Put the belt on hogan, put the belt on hogan.

    • @ianwebb8066
      @ianwebb8066 3 месяца назад

      Not hypocritical he says "yeah I let that awful stuff happen", acknowledging his role

    • @JohnDoe-gk7ok
      @JohnDoe-gk7ok 3 месяца назад +2

      Bischoff’s creative from 1998 onward was as bad as Russo’s.

  • @tomdalley84
    @tomdalley84 3 месяца назад +1

    Does anyone else get nauseous watching Conrad rock back and forth all the time?

  • @digitalwonderground
    @digitalwonderground 3 месяца назад +17

    It seems Eric's "truth" changes based on his feelings towards someone. The truth should be consistent, regardless of personal feelings. Calling Russo the most delusional person he's ever met comes off as deliberately misleading. Russo gave Eric props even tho they're not cool. Eric can't or won't do the same, which is fine. But he just loses credibility by doing so. Russo might by kinda wacky, but he comes across as an honest wacko, even if it makes him unpopular. In contrast, Eric comes off as a bitter politician, while Russo seems like the straightforward plumber who tells you the truth, even if he doesn't know any better.

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 месяца назад +7

      Right. I've heard Russo put over Bischoff a number of times.

    • @DBecks09
      @DBecks09 3 месяца назад +5

      Well said.

    • @ianwebb8066
      @ianwebb8066 3 месяца назад +3

      You might be the most delusional if you think that positively of Russo. A plumber probably could've done a better job

  • @st1ngers104
    @st1ngers104 3 месяца назад +2

    Eric looked bad in this episode. Eric siding with hogan regardless of the company seems shady. Not a good look. Eric seems angry about being caught in some lies

  • @Herbrod78
    @Herbrod78 3 месяца назад +4

    Brett Hart May have gotten 3 million per year for 3 years but his legacy ended with brain damage which later led to a stroke, you haters out there are insensitive and don't understand that he has a right to tell the truth and does not mean he's being negative

  • @pelicanspalacex8861
    @pelicanspalacex8861 3 месяца назад +3

    Eric says there’s no point in having a conversation with Russo because there’s nothing new he could find out then goes on to say he has multiple questions for Russo lol.
    If you have these questions for Russo then why not have a conversation? If Russo is a liar like you claim then wouldn’t it be apparent in your conversation with him?
    I’ve listened to Russo for years and he’s legitimately never changed his story on anything and has said these same statements for years and has also put Bischoff over many times. I’m sure some of the stuff on that episode was clipped and didn’t get the full context as well.
    Have a conversation with him. What’s the harm?

    • @nixy..
      @nixy.. 3 месяца назад

      If you watched this, Eric says he’s willing to have a convo with Russo if Russo can be truthful about going into business for himself.

    • @zachary_attackery
      @zachary_attackery 3 месяца назад +1

      neither Eric nor Cornette will talk to him because they'd be exposed. Just like when Cornette and Eric were on "Table For 3" and it turned out all the crap Cornette criticized Eric for was completely false and told by him 2nd hand by "a little birdy"

  • @alexmorgan7965
    @alexmorgan7965 3 месяца назад +3

    Stop rocking back /forth all the time conrad 😅...

  • @wgreenjr81
    @wgreenjr81 3 месяца назад +32

    No arguments that Russo was trying to put out the dumpster fire by pouring gas on it, but at the same time Eric continues to come off as Hogan's puppet. Sure Hogan has creative sign-off, that shouldn't mean you let him call the shots. It's supposed to mean you lay it out and persuade him. If you didn't have that ability, you were in the wrong job. If you didn't have the desire, you were in the wrong job.

    • @NormMears
      @NormMears 3 месяца назад +3

      Creative control is exactly that. Hogan calls the shots.

    • @benjaminmee3751
      @benjaminmee3751 3 месяца назад +8

      Creative control mean this.
      Booker: Hey Hulk. This is what we want to do…
      Hulk: I don’t like it.
      Booker: how about this?
      Hulk: nope.
      Booker: what if we do this?
      Hulk: nope.
      Booker: how about we have a count out?
      Hulk: nope.
      Booker: how about a DQ?
      Hulk: nope.
      Booker: we need to keep the title on your opponent.
      Hulk: nope.
      Booker: well you’ve left me with two choices. Either I replace you or you get the title.
      Hulk: nope.
      Booker: you go over clean?
      Hulk: that works.

    • @TheSteel101
      @TheSteel101 3 месяца назад

      This and the fake bishoff keeps defending hulk. He had a huge say in creative back in wwf as well, yet vince still got him to put over warrior

    • @wgreenjr81
      @wgreenjr81 3 месяца назад +1

      @@benjaminmee3751 Yes, this is how it went, but that isn't how its supposed to work. When Hogan says no, you have to sell him. lay out the plan for the next week through the next few PPV's. Yes Hogan is a pompous ass, but Eric has no problem selling when he wants to. He's been peddling this Hogan creative narrative for literal decades and sold an untold number of you on it. Eric only did half the job. He forgot the other half of the job was to sell the talent.

    • @benjaminmee3751
      @benjaminmee3751 3 месяца назад +4

      @@wgreenjr81 you can’t sell a hard no. I don’t know how you think selling works but I’ll educate you. When someone gives you a hard no, you don’t continue to sell to them. You’re wasting their time and your time continuing on that line. You can tell them where it’s all going and how much time or money they’ll save with the product, but when you ask them again, you’ll get a hard no. Go and work in sales. You’ll learn very quickly that a hard no means fucking NO!

  • @alexkillmonger8355
    @alexkillmonger8355 3 месяца назад +4

    Hogan killed WCW,
    He had creative control & Eric was to scared to tell him NO:
    -97 Killed Sting and that whole build
    -98 Wasted Goldberg on free TV, never had a PPV rematch cause he didn’t want to lose twice to him
    - 99 Finger-poke of Doom killed Kevin Nash who was an over babyface
    - 00, How the fuck does he think he should still be beating people clean and should be the champion.
    Just stupidity from him and all his yes men.

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад

      Agreed. WCW was unwatchable & ran off the audience to RAW, way before Russo ever got there. Russo's RAW beat Bischoff's Nitro badly, then Russo took Bischoff's job, and Russo owned Bischoff & Hogan at BATB, and Bischoff still hates Russo for it to this day.

    • @RG-lr4pk
      @RG-lr4pk 3 месяца назад

      - 2002, Hogan is still the most over person in wrestling and Vince is forced to put the belt on him.
      Anyways back to the fake news world of the dirtsheets, don't mind me injecting reality.

    • @alexkillmonger8355
      @alexkillmonger8355 3 месяца назад

      @@RG-lr4pk Hogan is steroided up racist trash 😂😂😂😂😂😂
      Most overrated 3 move person in history of the world

  • @thesuperwahash
    @thesuperwahash 3 месяца назад +1

    Eric hates Russo just as bad as Cornette

  • @Jamesgeeee
    @Jamesgeeee 3 месяца назад +4

    Nash and hogan played Eric. It’s that simple. Nash wouldn’t have shit to do with Eric except he kept throwing money his way

    • @ianwebb8066
      @ianwebb8066 3 месяца назад +1

      What's that simple? How wcw made it's first profit ever? How together Eric Hogan and Nash pushed the business up so that wrestlers today get a good salary? How they made wcw the only company ever to do better ratings and sales then WWF/WWE?

    • @Jamesgeeee
      @Jamesgeeee 3 месяца назад

      @@ianwebb8066 they made a profit and were out of business 5 years later. So dumb . It’s like my family owning a restaurant. Would I rather barely get by for 50 years, or make money for 2.5 years and then 2.5 years later be losing a ton of money and go out of business. I’ll take the first option. Stay broke fool

  • @KaNCeRmm4life
    @KaNCeRmm4life 3 месяца назад +5

    this is the first time Ive ever heard that Booker wasnt gonna win the "other" world title that night.. which.. I have trouble with and am throwing a flag on the play, because the original belt was there that night.. the hogan and jeff spot happens early on in the show.. and even Eric says, in this very video!, the end game was for hulk to come back and face Booker at Havoc???

    • @XtremeEffect
      @XtremeEffect 3 месяца назад +8

      Eric is everything he accuses Russo of. Delusional and a liar. When 83 weeks first started he literally couldn't remember much of anything from WCW

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад +5

      Bischoff is still covering for him & Hogan. He uses this podcast for Hogan propaganda basically.

    • @ianwebb8066
      @ianwebb8066 3 месяца назад +1

      So Booker T is a liar? Cause he said even he didn't know

    • @tomasnichols8401
      @tomasnichols8401 3 месяца назад +1

      Eric said there was supposed to have been a championship tournament after Hogan's 'worked' walkout from WCW culminating at Halloween Havoc, and Hogan would've come out to claim that he was the real champion, facing the winner of the tournament (Booker T).

  • @sheilas4476
    @sheilas4476 3 месяца назад +4

    I always really liked Eric and thought he was a great onscreen character, but just don’t understand why he has to be so hostile to another human being. A lot of this stuff happened near enough three decades ago. Just move on. Even if you think those things of Vince, none of it warrants that level of bitterness and distain.

    • @liko4333
      @liko4333 3 месяца назад +1

      couldn't agree more! Very well said

  • @darthmcgee2216
    @darthmcgee2216 3 месяца назад +2

    When did Eric start doing a podcast with Uncle Elmer Jr.? 😅

  • @SirussTheViruss
    @SirussTheViruss 3 месяца назад +1

    While Russo is a piece of work, he comes off like just about everyone else I know from the Long Island area. Him and Kingston both have a part of it in their persona that can't be removed from their "gimmick" no matter how hard they try. Yes he exaggerates and you need to learn to take everything with a grain (or handful) of salt. He also has an ultra "alpha male" personality that can be broken down, he doesn't expect anyone to buy 100% of what he says. I feel like Eric feels betrayed because he took everything at face value and didn't understand the person or where it was coming from. The situation their worlds came together is also kinda borked.
    Its like having two awesome Uncles that hate each other when they are both great in their own way but are too stubborn to ever bury the hatchet.

  • @dandaye3258
    @dandaye3258 3 месяца назад +5

    Russo did get Eric fired. Because wcw thought they could get the big fish
    And Russo green himself. Goldberg did deliberately hurt Russo. Because Goldberg can’t work lol

  • @TattoodPriebe
    @TattoodPriebe 3 месяца назад +4

    A logical follow up to this in all honesty should be Why the Invasion Angle in WWE failed so miserably. What should've been the biggest angle arguably ever in wrestling history turned out to be one giant failure after another. Were talking about "who killed wcw" then in my mind the most logical follow up should be "who killed the invasion". Especially considering some of the hate WCW gets for certain decisions or angles yet the Invasion redid those same exact mistakes.

    • @Sting283
      @Sting283 3 месяца назад

      Vince wasn't interested in propping WCW throwaways that early. They were kind of big names in WCW that were kept down constantly

    • @TattoodPriebe
      @TattoodPriebe 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Sting283 We know that is one of the reason but it still makes sense as in a follow up series. Just hearing from people like RVD, DDP, and others over the years their was so much more than that. We know Vince's weird issues as RVD was the only one they kept a star. But the entire thing was fumbled and you know their is more to it than that or wrestlers points of view or creative meetings on things would or wouldn't work. I also know several fans always have wanted this topic covered in depth but we never got one because obviously Vince wasn't going to release a documentary style DVD at the time over something everyone knows was a failure.

    • @aceloco817
      @aceloco817 3 месяца назад

      Rvd wasn't Wcw tho. He's Ecw. Wasn't even a part of that either. Obviously u didn't watch it during the time. 😂😂😂

    • @Heller103085
      @Heller103085 3 месяца назад

      @@aceloco817he was apart of the ecw/wcw collab…him and dreamer were the two that came the night they combined the alliance, and that was offshooted from
      The invasion of wcw…so you werent paying attention

  • @cubzrulz
    @cubzrulz 3 месяца назад +13

    The Russo blame poll isn't fair. I can promise you thay every episode you will want to blame someone more.

    • @antoineLebrane
      @antoineLebrane 3 месяца назад +3

      stop russo glazing

    • @tededwards5709
      @tededwards5709 3 месяца назад +7

      @@antoineLebraneglazing? Lol a writer did not kill the company. Dont be a cliche mark

    • @kevinlee9929
      @kevinlee9929 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@antoineLebrane You literally go from channel to channel hating on him and saying this same comment ...

    • @antoineLebrane
      @antoineLebrane 3 месяца назад +1

      @@tededwards5709 you still glazing idc if he killed it or not

    • @antoineLebrane
      @antoineLebrane 3 месяца назад +1

      @@kevinlee9929 and you going from channel to channel worrying about my comment says more about you than me

  • @dontpanic4786
    @dontpanic4786 3 месяца назад +1

    Vince said he left WWF at the time bec he got tired of the workload writing two shows only to leave for a company to write two shows.... make it make sense man.

  • @squarepickle
    @squarepickle 3 месяца назад +1

    Booker didn't think he'd win the world title because he was black??? That makes no sense in WCW though. For one, WCW had already had a black World Champion and for two, Booker and his brother were the only black guys on the roster other than Vincent. So he thought that WCW should put the World Heavyweight Championship on him or his brother just because they were black??? That is exactly why you don't listen to the talent. Inclusiveness doesn't equal good business. Booker has always been extremely talented and certainly deserved his main event run, but to believe WCW was racist makes ZERO sense considering their title history across the board.. Also signing with WWE was an interesting move for a guy who thought WCW was racist. 😂

  • @demonocusmetalocus3558
    @demonocusmetalocus3558 3 месяца назад +1

    I have said it before and I will say it again the Time Warner merger is what killed WCW

  • @markie1990123
    @markie1990123 3 месяца назад +3

    Ironic from Eric “I can’t really remember” Bischoff 😂

  • @joeriveracomedy
    @joeriveracomedy 3 месяца назад +3

    Representation does not matter. Being the best matters.

  • @terranceburrs5832
    @terranceburrs5832 3 месяца назад +3

    Eric Bischoff stated that when he and Hogan landed and got off the plane, people were blowing up their phones saying Russo went into business for himself. This is my question, if only Russo, Bischoff, and Hogan knew what was happening that night, how would all these people who called know that Russo went into business for himself? His statements aren't making sense.

    • @HabsMike25
      @HabsMike25 3 месяца назад +1

      Think everything went to plan but I believe Russo's promo was supposed to be shorter & less vicious. If so, then Russo went into business for himself

    • @MrRevolutionNine
      @MrRevolutionNine 3 месяца назад +3

      Welcome to another one of Eric's revisions to the story. He's had about ten different revisions. Russo's story has always stayed the same.

    • @terranceburrs5832
      @terranceburrs5832 3 месяца назад

      @@MrRevolutionNine I agree.

    • @terranceburrs5832
      @terranceburrs5832 3 месяца назад +1

      @@HabsMike25 but my point is how would all these people know that who called them when they were the only three who knrw exactly what was going to happen?

    • @TonyDanza4Lyfe
      @TonyDanza4Lyfe 3 месяца назад

      @@HabsMike25yeah it’s clear he went off script

  • @reeseatkinson5796
    @reeseatkinson5796 3 месяца назад +2

    Never trust anyone from NY that calls you bro

  • @waterjabbers1159
    @waterjabbers1159 3 месяца назад +1

    After 3 episodes, I'm convinced that what killed WCW was a short-sided approach to running a wrestling promotion from top to bottom.
    First, every wrestling show gets stale if there's a ceiling between the mid card and the top card. Creative should always be focused on all of their talent.
    Second, honesty has to be the most important value. As a teenager I loved Goldberg. As an adult that understands more about the business I have to imagine that giving a guy with less experience that most of your mid-card an elevator to your exclusive club had to be rough on the mid-card.
    WCW had Chris Benoit, Eddie Guerero, Rey Mysterio, Booker T, Chavo Guerero, and so many more talented wrestlers, and couldn't write a storyline that involved any of them winning the belt?
    The only way that's possible is that no one was being honest with themselves. Talent wasn't being evaluated correctly, and the good ole boy club had way too much say.
    Instead of sitting down and coming up with creative ways to use the entire roster to generate interest WCW seemed more interested in being the last hurrah for a collection of 80s wrestlers and cast offs from the WWF.
    I switched from watching WCW to watching WWF because teenage me got tired of the same old NWO storyline week to week. I went from being excited about Sting to a fan of Harlem Heat, Rey, and Eddie, and then eventually to watching RAW because the roster was more interesting.

  • @astroknight2828
    @astroknight2828 3 месяца назад +1

    Well,to be fair,Kevin Nash and Vince Russo didn't kill WCW completely,they just made incredibly bad shows.Now,Russo did cross the line on things that could have been avoided,some he couldn't.But,playing victim when you're the cause of losing the audience? Please! But,that didn't kill WCW,Overcompensating did!

    • @G360LIVE
      @G360LIVE 2 месяца назад +1

      That's a great point. Eric keeps saying that nothing would've kept WCW on the air because the executives didn't want it. Fair enough. But we could've at least gotten good WCW shows until it was pulled.

  • @jameslarishjr429
    @jameslarishjr429 3 месяца назад +3

    Booker T winning the title there still helped him moving forward Eric is wrong.

  • @prestonpfeiffer
    @prestonpfeiffer 3 месяца назад +22

    Russo was a rotten nail in the coffin of WCW but Eric’s “loyalty” to Hogan has to share some of the blame. He was given creative control in 1994,no reason by 2000 he should still have it if he isnt putting new stars over.

    • @sonofsarek
      @sonofsarek 3 месяца назад +9

      Last I checked, Giant, DDP, Goldberg, Booker, Steiner, Benoit, Jericho, Mysterio, and Guerrero all had runs with various titles. Saying “they didn’t create new stars” is WWF/Meltzer propaganda.

    • @D4NK1
      @D4NK1 3 месяца назад +4

      You know which of Eric's mistakes hurt him the most because they're the ones he's spent the last 20 years defending.
      The big egos did help destroy the ratings after 1998, BUT these same people are the ones that made the company hugely successful and made it its first profit in 1995....so...
      I guess that's wrestling...the same things that make us watch it (the insane people that do it) are also the same things that end up turning us off from it

    • @johnbach2380
      @johnbach2380 3 месяца назад +9

      From what I remember sting beat hogan everytime they wrestled. He made goldberg an Uber star… and tried to job to Billy Kidman.
      Hogan lost to Luger. Lost to piper.
      This idea he never put anyone over is silly as hell

    • @titanisback1
      @titanisback1 3 месяца назад +2

      @@D4NK1 WCW actually lost around $9,000,000 in 1995. Eric likes to promote Guy Evans book which shows exactly that. Because the financials at Turner were a complete mess, using EBITDA and the like to obscure them, it looked like on the surface that WCW was profitable in 1995 but it wasn't.

    • @D4NK1
      @D4NK1 3 месяца назад +2

      @@titanisback1 My point is more to the fact that Hogan did draw and made WCWs ratings boom.
      Was Hogan's contract ridiculous? Yes and especially when you consider that Vince didn't want him so WCW were bidding against themselves, but for whatever reason the crowd loved him and he got people watching...until they didn't.
      In hindsight the disaster was Hogan's 1998 contract. They should have let Hogan go because he wouldn't have accepted a contract that paid him what he was worth at the time.
      But his First WCW contract was also ridiculous if you read it but it was worth it to get WCW to the point it was in 1998. (Record crowds, ratings and revenue)

  • @MrRevolutionNine
    @MrRevolutionNine 3 месяца назад +1

    Russo was talking about Eric getting fired from WCW was a direct result from Russo's writing in the WWF. Eric getting that confused is quite worrying. Eric lying through his teeth about Bash At The Beach is also quite funny considering he's accusing Russo of the same thing. Bash was a work, all in on it, think about the little things like a camera being set up to show Eric & Hulk leaving the building, come on people. The episode missing out the fact Brad told Russo NOT to call Hulk as they couldn't afford to put him on TV when Russo promised to call him after the "shoot", Hulk then becomes paranoid that it was all done to get one over on him. Hulk and Eric then see money signs as they know Turner was like an ATM when it came to lawsuits. Although ,wasn't the case thrown out of court twice as Eric & Hulk couldn't get their lies on the same page? Maybe ask Eric about that one. You can dislike Russo all you want but his story has never changed from day one, Eric's has had about 10 different revisions. Russo has always said he'll debate Eric or even Cornette but they won't do so, why is that? Seems like they have more to hide than Russo does.

  • @caughtlooking2019
    @caughtlooking2019 3 месяца назад +1

    After we figure out who killed WcW can we bring it back? Like go back to 1997-98

    • @robotbatman23
      @robotbatman23 3 месяца назад

      once the wwe x netflix deal kicks in next year they have all the wcw shows to watch on there

  • @brianpowers3742
    @brianpowers3742 3 месяца назад +4

    I wonder.. is it both Bruce Prichard and Eric’s disdain for Russo Is what made them become good friends?

    • @dustin6528
      @dustin6528 3 месяца назад +9

      Probably. He replaced them both because of their incompetence

    • @benjaminmee3751
      @benjaminmee3751 3 месяца назад +1

      No. They worked together and became friends during Eric’s time as Raw GM.

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад +4

      Russo took both their jobs & also outperformed them. So probably.

  • @cgway89
    @cgway89 3 месяца назад +1

    Tony killed WCW with that HORRIBLE IDEA!!! That's when they lost me as a fan.

    • @attiepollard7847
      @attiepollard7847 3 месяца назад

      Don't blame Tony. It was Eric bischoff's move to veto or not.

  • @Mmarra88
    @Mmarra88 3 месяца назад +3

    I can’t stand Russo but I’d take Russo over Tony khan

  • @XtremeEffect
    @XtremeEffect 3 месяца назад +5

    2 mins in and Eric sounds bitter as hell

  • @mikejejenich-pb5zx
    @mikejejenich-pb5zx 3 месяца назад +1

    Tony had to be trolling. Russo to make arquette the champion Or tony was high on some type of pharmaceutical drug 👋

  • @D4NK1
    @D4NK1 3 месяца назад +12

    "when Hogan takes his rightful place on that throne"
    Guy was 47 at the time. If that's your champ...your promotion hasnt got long to live... Hogan should know, he left AWA because aging Vern Gagne kept putting the belt on himself and other aging wrestlers

    • @kingnacho69
      @kingnacho69 3 месяца назад +3

      Yea I didn’t understand Bischoffs defense. Hulk gonna take the belt after double J lay down for him and not come back without explanation until Halloween Havoc? wtf?

    • @Gary1123
      @Gary1123 3 месяца назад +4

      He left AWA over a merchandise dispute with Verne, and because of the money he could make with Vince. When did anyone ever say it was over age?

    • @Aizenborgman
      @Aizenborgman 3 месяца назад +4

      Because Hogan did everything Russo asked of him and it did not work. He lost more during that period than he won. Hogan agreed to Russo's ideas, which were not good at all. He lost to Kidman, Vampiro, The Wall, Mike Awesome, etc. You're talking as if all of Russo's plans for Hogan were great and brought in ratings and profits. Everything was bad. Why don't you want Hogan to beat Jeff and take the belt? Nash won the belt over Jeff, Ric Flair, and Diamond Dallas Page, so they defeated Jeff. Even Vince Russo scripted himself to win the world belt over Booker T later. The question is why do all these people have the right to win over Jeff, but the decision for Hogan to win is the wrong decision?? Don't you think it's funny when you think about it? All of Russo's plans failed, so let's try for Hogan to be the champion as long as all of Jeff Jarrett's matches did not succeed. Russo made Jeff the world champion and made him the main event in all the PPVs, yet he did not succeed. Do not act as if Hogan's decision to win was a mistake and as if everything else was fine. Hogan did not steal Booker T's moment. Because the original plan was, since Hulk won over Kidman at the Great American Bash, that if he beat Kidman, he would fight the world champion at Bash at the Beach, and the decision for Booker to win did not come until a day or two before Bash at the Beach. The match announced a month ago was Hulk Hogan vs. Jeff, not Booker T vs. Jeff. Hogan didn't steal his moment in the first place. In addition, what did the belt do to Booker T? He lost the belt to Russo lol.

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад +3

      Not only was Hogan old, but 1998 and 1999 were brutal years of WCW being "The Hogan Show." It was repetitive and awful, and it took up the majority of the TV time. It was boring and demoralizing. Meanwhile Russo was writing fun stuff on RAW for younger athletes in their primes

    • @RG-lr4pk
      @RG-lr4pk 3 месяца назад +3

      ​@Gary1123 these dirtsheet marks think that wrestling is about fake matches and gimmicks and not about the money. 🤣

  • @dand9106
    @dand9106 3 месяца назад +10

    The one thing that is barely mentioned is that while all this is going on The Rock and Stone Cold Steve Austin are mesmerizing the audience on the other channel.

    • @jditrev
      @jditrev 3 месяца назад +2

      Well it’s a WCW doc. Why would there be any focus on what was going on with RAW? They’ve mentioned WWF stuff quite a bit with the Rock being on the doc

    • @dand9106
      @dand9106 3 месяца назад +1

      @@jditrev Because they ask Who Killed WCW? The popularity of Rock, Stone Cold, Vince McMahon played a role in draining Nitro's audience. Hence The Rock, Stone Cold Steve Austin, and Vince McMahon played roles in killing WCW.

    • @jimkon1479
      @jimkon1479 3 месяца назад

      Barely talked about it. "Oh the talent watched THAT show they weren't supposed to watch." Wonder why, fellas?

  • @PhilThePromoter
    @PhilThePromoter 3 месяца назад +8

    I want to see vince and eric have a conversation.

    • @tededwards5709
      @tededwards5709 3 месяца назад +6

      Sadly Eric is the one who keeps refusing. Conrad has asked him recently and he said no. Maybe doesn’t wanna get exposed

    • @thetorontokidd6577
      @thetorontokidd6577 3 месяца назад +2

      They did gay stuff together… it’s awkward now…

    • @XtremeEffect
      @XtremeEffect 3 месяца назад +6

      Eric would get exposed

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад

      Eric would get exposed. Eric is still covering for himself & Hogan all these years later. Saying the most venomous things he can about anyone who challenges the official Hogan narrative.

  • @TheHannibalTV
    @TheHannibalTV 3 месяца назад +1

    🤠

  • @loganbrown1185
    @loganbrown1185 3 месяца назад +2

    It's been a really long time since a series has hooked me like this one.all the questions I wanted to ask my dad and the wcw but neither was there during my teenage years and now as a adult I'm finding closure on RUclips 😂😂😂

  • @victorcolon1005
    @victorcolon1005 3 месяца назад +1

    I like eric and russo but eric is too loyal to hogan he knows hogan was in it for himself

    • @Rschr101
      @Rschr101 3 месяца назад

      To play devils advocate, what was Hogan supposed to do at that point in his career? Let everybody beat him? Hulk did what he had to do to stay on top and make the most money he could. Cant blame him for that. All those guys below him would have done the same.

  • @SkyKing3233
    @SkyKing3233 3 месяца назад +1

    Even when WCW was #1, Turner executives still didn’t want wrestling on the network that explains the whole story. Russo was a gift to the network. They couldnt wait to get rid of it. Still remember the good ol days. WCW at its best was amazing television.

  • @GregHouston-t8i
    @GregHouston-t8i 3 месяца назад +1

    Eric Bischoff and Jim Cornette vs. Vince Russo and Ed Ferrara with Jim Herd as Russo's manager and Dave Meltzer as the special guest referee lol. Get your tickets now😅🤣😂

  • @Wefdog85
    @Wefdog85 3 месяца назад +1

    Would have been good if they could have gotten Ed Ferrara in the show as well

  • @sbg95ifty
    @sbg95ifty 3 месяца назад +1

    Wish they had some announcers on the show. Would be nice to hear Schiavones perspective

  • @dakliq420
    @dakliq420 3 месяца назад +1

    I think something that really gets lost here is what Hogan was doing before Bash at the Beach,which was feuding and multiple times losing,to Billy Kidman in a feud that did nothing for either man. That was a Russo idea,not a Bischoff and definitely not a Hogan one. He had creative control,and decided to go with the story (whatever it was). So now you want Hogan to go into another match only to lose to Jarrett too,and there’s nothing he can sink his teeth into from a story perspective? Yeah I can’t blame him for making noise. Hogan will do the job,but it has to make sense and there had to be a plan for him going forward. I feel any top star would want to know what the plan for them going forward is. Imo WCW from the beginning should’ve been clear what the main event was going to be. If they wanted it to be Booker T vs Jarret for the belt then they should’ve advertised it. Forget the swerve bs,especially when it wasn’t working anyway.

  • @LetsGroove2Nite.
    @LetsGroove2Nite. 3 месяца назад +1

    A question that I’ve never seen asked...
    If the IP was for sale by wwe ,would/could Eric/Ted/Hulk be interested in owning and restarting it (wcw)

  • @johnnersinger9771
    @johnnersinger9771 3 месяца назад +16

    Eric afraid to have a one on one with Russo. Lol

    • @XtremeEffect
      @XtremeEffect 3 месяца назад +9

      💯 Russo would expose Eric and his ego wouldn't allow that

    • @2000kfact
      @2000kfact 3 месяца назад +3

      no no no "he might give him credibility" cuz ya know, no one knows who russo is

    • @XtremeEffect
      @XtremeEffect 3 месяца назад +6

      @@2000kfact Russo accomplished more than Bischoff. Peaked WWE to record highs. Peaked TNA to record highs. Then had to clean up Eric's mess at WCW and still raised ratings by 20%

    • @louio
      @louio 3 месяца назад

      ​​@@XtremeEffectmeh.......even at the age of 10, seeing an ad promo of David Arquette as WCW Champion I still changed the channel

    • @account_suspended
      @account_suspended 3 месяца назад

      @@XtremeEffectthat is laughable. Eric made WCW profitable and the hottest cable show for 83 weeks. Russo was an idea guy who had Vince to filter his craziness. He also had the benefit of having the greatest wrestling talent at one time in the same company. The attitude era is glorified as being incredible but the majority of it was awful. We all just remember Austin, Rock, Mankind, etc.

  • @squarepickle
    @squarepickle 3 месяца назад +1

    I never pegged Booker T as one of those guys who thought Hogan held them back. Booker did eventually get to main event and he wasn't 1/10th as successful as Hogan. So to still believe they should have ran with him instead of Hogan is just blatantly ridiculous.

  • @TheeCoachg
    @TheeCoachg 3 месяца назад +4

    None of the older talent MADE new stars. You could say Bret Hart had great matches with Benoit,Booker and some others but Eric just let Nash and Hogan run the next generation like Jericho,Benoit,Guerrero,Malenko and Saturn to WWE

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад +1

      That's true and WCW had truly become the Hogan show. Bischoff, Hogan & Nash's stuff in 98 and 99 was so boring.

    • @decepticonxhunter4850
      @decepticonxhunter4850 3 месяца назад

      Benoit, Malenko, and Saturn didn't exactly become big stars in the WWE system either, so the question has to be asked: were they really anything other than midcard/undercard guys who had delusions of grandeur?

  • @nwo2cool
    @nwo2cool 3 месяца назад

    That episode 3 failed to explain Brad Siegal's side of his stories about his involvement with the Bash at the Beach 2000 incident. You have 2 guys: Russo and Bischoff claimed Siegal told them this and that. First, Bischoff claimed Siegal told Russo to go with Bischoff's ideas. It was a 2 out 1 votes with Hogan and Siegal chose Bischoff's ideas. Russo on the other hand claimed Siegal chose Russo's ideas over Bischoff, and Siegal did not want to use Hogan on TV anymore because he was too expensive. Russo also claimed Siegal did not want Russo to call Hogan after the ppv, which led to Hogan filed a lawsuit against Russo for defamation of character, and WCW for breach of contract. So, which creative ideas did Siegal chose? Did he want to get rid of Hogan, and using Russo to do his dirty work? Bischoff is a bullface liar who can't get his stories straight just like Hogan. That's why the case between Hogan vs Russo was dismissed. It's a good thing Hogan is not on the show because he's going lie anyways. This is a guy who doesn't know the whole details about the Montreal Screwjob. You can't believe everything Hogan and Bischoff says when talking about the Starrcade '97 main event botched, and the Bash at the Beach controversy. I'll take Russo's words out of everybody who is involved.

  • @skyser7323
    @skyser7323 3 месяца назад +1

    Goldberg ended 2 wrestling careers months apart

  • @michaelsmiley15
    @michaelsmiley15 3 месяца назад +1

    Just add to the fact that one of the first interviews on bash as the beach in 2015 I think
    Bischoff was dealing with the death of his father and the funeral was the actual day of the pay per view
    Him getting to Daytona late because of that

  • @Aizenborgman
    @Aizenborgman 3 месяца назад +1

    Russo always blames Hogan. The issue of Russo saying that Hogan did not want to lose to Jeff Jarrett, as if Jeff Jarrett was bringing money and ratings to WCW, as if Jeff Jarrett was the answer to Austin and Rock at the time! I don't blame Hogan if he wants to win. Jeff was at the Main Event the entire time of Russo and all of his ideas did not work, so why does he put the blame on Hogan? I wonder why Booker T puts the blame on Hogan and they talk as if everything was fine until Hogan decided to win against Jeff. Hogan was losing to everyone like Kidman, Vampiro, The Wall, and others. He agreed with all the losing decisions. And yet they say that he only thinks about himself??? He lost to everyone and Russo's plans did not succeed, so why are they surprised that he wants to win over Jeff ? The decision for Hogan to win over Jeff Jarrett was before the decision for Booker to win over Jeff. But Booker T speaks as if the decision from the beginning was for him to wrestle Jeff, as if the original main event for Bash at the Beach was a Jeff vs. Booker T match, as if Hogan tried to get Booker out of the match, and this of course is all untrue. The original decision a month or so ago was for Hogan to win over Jeff. When Hogan challenged Kidman at the Great American Bash, he told him that if I beat you, Kidman, I would wrestle the champion at Bash at the Beach. This was all the original decision from the beginning. Therefore, Booker T has no right to speak as if Hulk tried to steal his moment by winning the title, the decision of which came late behind Hogan’s back.

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад +1

      WCW was so repetitive as the Hogan show at that point. Year after year of the same Hogan crap over and over. The boring slow matches. The Ultimate Warrior. The Red n Yellow. Just crap after crap after crap. WCW's audience was gone way before Russo got there, and that's all on Bischoff and his lover Hogan.

  • @thepistolguy859
    @thepistolguy859 3 месяца назад

    Ted Turner killed wcw by merging with aol. And i know turner later regretted that merger because if i remember correctly they got rid of ted turner. So AoL killed it and Turner. Where is AOL now lol. In rhe cenetary buried right beside WCW.

  • @phillydude211
    @phillydude211 3 месяца назад

    WCW was already in the shitter before Russo came on board. If anything Brad Siegel should also be blamed for trying to attempt to bring in both Russo and Bischoff in 2000, to revive the company that was already dying. It was attempt putting on the bandaid to save WCW and it failed.

  • @chrisorlando6162
    @chrisorlando6162 3 месяца назад +9

    Within the first 6 minutes, while describing Russo, Bischoff actually describes himself..self importance, center of attention. Look in the mirror, Eric..YOU KILLED wCw!

    • @zeromagnum2811
      @zeromagnum2811 3 месяца назад +3

      If you want to go with that narrative. Then he killed what he created. Because without him, WCW would have never been worth watching in the first place in the monday night war you doofus mark.

    • @ToneyHolley
      @ToneyHolley 3 месяца назад

      Spot On!!​@@zeromagnum2811

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад +3

      @@zeromagnum2811 Russo's RAW beat Bischoff's Nitro badly, then Russo took Bischoff's job, and Russo owned Bischoff & Hogan at BATB, and Bischoff still hates Russo for it to this day.
      WCW became unwatchable towards the end of 1998. The Hogan Show over and over.

    • @XtremeEffect
      @XtremeEffect 3 месяца назад +3

      He didn't kill WCW but he's definitely bitter, delusional and lies. Eric knows Russo was better than him creatively and costed him his job at WCW in '99

  • @LongBongSilverOG
    @LongBongSilverOG 3 месяца назад

    As a real fan of WWF and the WCW, i always felt the end was in sight when everyone and their momma was in the NWO. I know it was the best thing to happen to professional wrestling, but we grew tired of the 100 member NWO. I say this yet i never ever liked what the WWE was doing. DX was a simple rip off. Don't care for the Rock or Stone Cold, but i respect what they did. I just got nothing but love for Mr. Bishoff. A legend and hero to the cause! I'd love to hear his thoughts on the new stuff going on. I look for any alternative to the McMahon empire.

  • @poppycock31185
    @poppycock31185 22 дня назад

    Bischoff berating others for having "amnesia" and being manipulative liars is hilarious.😂 He definitely should get into politics.

  • @damienblanchard4993
    @damienblanchard4993 3 месяца назад

    Maybe this question has been asked and answered before and if it has, I haven't heard it, but had a deal not been reached with WWE or anyone else, would the last nitro we saw have actually been the last nitro? I guess I'm asking how long would it have been before AOL just pulled the plug? And would it not be fair to say WWE killed WCW in more ways than one? By out performing them in the end, by buying them and not continuing the brand, by buring it in general?

  • @petemorris1885
    @petemorris1885 3 месяца назад

    Konnan has confirmed that Goldberg told him backstage he was planning to hurt Russo. I already disliked Goldberg and Russo, but I dislike Goldberg more now. Thought he came across really badly throughout all the episodes.

  • @RagingUtai
    @RagingUtai 3 месяца назад

    Was booker t meant to win the title on another night? What was erics/hogans plan for the title after they walked out that night?
    Also as for booker feeling hard for an african american to get a title, is it not the case of a company just sticking with a white male purely out of business and profit concerns, if the majority demographics is white people? And not being "racist " against a certain color. Maybe the worry or perception in wrestling management back then was the fear of not appealing to masses based on how white teen males may react to a black american champion.
    Sad thing is, in australia, in a multicultural country whose majority white, you rarely see a news presenter who is of color , or difference race, such as asian/arab background. Networks probably worried of numbers leaving to other stations , because of some racist sentiment burried in in viewers because they see others differently to themselves. It wasn't till this year when i began seeing mainstream networks show some varierty in their journalist correspondants.
    Either way i'm glad booker became champ eventually. I think he was universally loved as a champ/wrestler. I don't know anyone who has negative opinions on him.

  • @GeneLasker3
    @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад +5

    Bischoff & Cornette are so triggered by Russo because Russo got bigger results than they did in WWF and TNA. Russo's WWF beat Cornette's WWF and Bischoff's WCW. and Russo's TNA numbers beat Cornette and Bischoffs.

  • @moviewolfreviews875
    @moviewolfreviews875 3 месяца назад

    I’m sorry but can someone explain to me why Eric hates Dave so much, I’ve been watching Dave for so long and maybe he has different perspectives on topics but nothing personal against Eric, what did I miss, or does Eric just hate Dave’s view point?

  • @mh98177
    @mh98177 3 месяца назад

    I always wanted to believe that it was Vince/Eric that ruined WCW because I never believed that corporate politics could be that self destructive. Now that I’m older, I’ve seen it for myself and honestly, Turner may have been one of the better run offices in the corporate world.

  • @MycommentsRfacts
    @MycommentsRfacts 3 месяца назад

    I’m sorry Eric I really loved you on screen as a kid and I honestly believe you are a better human being then Russo but you are more responsible for the end of wcw then Russo. Forget what happen after you and hogan left the building and Russo bashed you guys no one cares about that the reason wcw failed is because you didn’t build the next generation properly. Russo tried but he wasn’t the right guy to get it done. He was passionate to give the amazing potential talent in wcw a chance but it was too late. Again Eric I’m sorry but you are a story starter but you are not a good finisher in booking.

  • @Nickkolakowski316
    @Nickkolakowski316 3 месяца назад +5

    Disappointed Eric’s personal problems with Russo leads him to carry on immaturely about him. At the end of the day Russo was brought in because wcw was dying while he was in charge but Eric’s ego wants you to focus on Russo as the sole cause of wcws failure .

    • @GeneLasker3
      @GeneLasker3 3 месяца назад +2

      Its true WCW became unwatchable when Bischoff & Hogan were in charge. While Russo was still writing WWF RAW and it was kicking Bischoff's Nitro's ass.

    • @decepticonxhunter4850
      @decepticonxhunter4850 3 месяца назад +2

      Now bring up the part where the product became progressively worse when Russo was brought in.

  • @jimmydee1974
    @jimmydee1974 3 месяца назад +1

    Conrad: "not qualified to speak....." Lol😂

  • @bxbomber85
    @bxbomber85 3 месяца назад

    Yes, David Arquette beat Eric Bischoff for the world title and it wasn't as stupid as Russo but it's still a lazy clout-chasing move.

  • @BlakesSanctum
    @BlakesSanctum 22 дня назад

    This ep3 vid is in your playlist twice and ep1 is missing from it.

  • @reginaldshort8486
    @reginaldshort8486 3 месяца назад

    The fact he considered himself the cash cow of WWF tells u how big his ego is. He wanted to make wrestling into the Jerry Springer show because he wasn’t good enough to be a writer for Springer.

  • @matthewstemwell4859
    @matthewstemwell4859 3 месяца назад

    Vice TV has revealed Vince Russo said “bro” 353 times during the course of his 4 hour interview session for the miniseries Who killed WCW.

  • @noct-XIII
    @noct-XIII 3 месяца назад

    Russos logic that wrestlers were hurting him on purpose is funny, it wasnt the fact that he didnt know how to wrestle & had no business being in a match nope it had to be malicious intent from the wrestlers 😂 and him saying he was a better on screen character that 80% of the roster? NO ONE was watching wcw to see russo 😂