Between Bischoff and Russo, a lot of BS | Who Killed WCW part 3 | Wrestling Observer Radio
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- Dave Meltzer and Bryan Alvarez discuss the third part of Who Killed WCW.
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I noticed Meltzer is laser focused and less chaotic when he's focused on shitting on Eric Bischoff. LOL
😂 😂
His agenda is so transparent and obvious.
I listen to Conrad and Eric discuss the things he said about WCW back in the day, which are almost exact analogs to what AEW is doing, but now of course he is touting their mistakes as virtues.
If you think the wrestling business is only what happens between the bells, this is what you get.
Rule number one of wrestling: Meltzer is always wrong, it's just a question of how wrong.
@@imfreviews"I listen to Conrad and Eric" I stopped reading right here.
@@DomSte128 cool stay blissfully ignorant in your aew tribalism
@@imfreviewsu have tribalism to Eric clown
WCW in May of 2000 changed their world title like 8 times. In ONE MONTH
Also when ric flair beat Steamboat it was controversial so they didn't just bury steamboat
May 2000 had six title changes not eight
Jarrett, flair, vacant, Jarrett, Nash, Flair and then Jarrett. Five if we don't count Nash handing the title back to flair
@@laxnrc That doesn't help their case. Batshit crazy.
@@laxnrcJarrett deserved it all tbh
Bischoff just like o.j. is going to find out who the real killer is
Not Guilty;
RIP Juice.
@@meherenow793 Haven't had coke that good since he left us 🙏 RIP
"If I Killed WCW, This is How"
Haha.
I know they should have never called him back..he didn't help not at all
Russo’s last show was January 10th 2000, they did a 3.5 to Raw’s 6.8.
By the end of February they were doing a 2.1.
It could have been save in January 2000. April 2000 the reset and Golberg turning heel was the point of no return as fan perception.
What was his average? 😂😂😂
@@Rjensen2 better than 2.1…..he only had 2 episodes drop below a 3. A 2.8 on December 13th and a 2.9 2 days after Christmas.
Eddie, Benoit, dean and Perry left in that period of time that definitely played apart
And keep in mind the WCW show was good in 2001
I laughed when they talked more about the Radicalz jumping but completely ignoring Jericho jumping. As a teen, that was hyped beyond belief. A WCW ship jumper goes straight for The Rock.
Yep. Jericho was a feature many of us tuned in to watch. I’d say WCW heads at the time didn’t realize how many of us were there for the cruiser weights and not the NWO
My memory might be deceiving me but I recall that at the time, Meltzer expressed much more concern about WCW letting Jericho getting away than he did about the Radicalz' departure.
I can tell Bryan is mad that Guy is on the doc and he is not on the show.😂
If Bryan wasn’t so smug and self satisfied constantly, he’d see how Guy’s book was so much more well researched and nuanced compared to his own.
@@brianogrady3185did you read death of wcw?
@@matt92550 I did. it's riddled with spelling errors and bad grammar. it really opened my eyes to the fact that anyone can publish any piece of shit and call themselves an author.
why didn't Brad Siegel or Bill Busch go into detail about Bash at The Beach
What else is there to say? I doubt they follow the stuff too closely tbh. They probably don’t give a f about the storylines
wasn't a storyline @@LRM5195
First time I saw Russo performing in those hockey jerseys I always thought he was trying to act like Adan Sandler
Fkn same 😂
Adam*
I still think those first 3 months of Russo/Ferrara were good (or at least better than anything else in WCW that year). Replacing him with Kevin Sullivan and immediately having Benoit, Guerrero, Malenko and Saturn quit was a shocking call.
Ah so the Radicalz was born from this...I guess Russo can claim that too
Its not hard, This might be the only company that died 3 times. Vince killed in December 87, Then Brian Scott and Jim Herd killed it by 92 then WcW thunder horrible booking, the AOL finished the job
😂😂😂
Huh?
“They never talked about declines in buisness!”. Pot … meet kettle.
Dave investigated the WCW numbers trying to work out what made ratings rise and what made them fall, won't do it for AEW though...
BINGO!
Vince Russo was so bad I actually believed that he was there secretly working for Vince to sabotage and sink the company
I'm not saying that your right but it's possible.
Sid Vicious said that most of the lockeroom felt this way.
How was he bad when Russo made the ratings go up? You must be a bot account for this channel.
Remember the triple cage 😂
Eric Bischoff said that if he had the chance to do it again, he'd do it. Well, Eric did the same thing in TNA Wrestling, after Dixie Carter took majority ownership of TNA Wrestling and ran off TNA Wrestling co-founder and minority owner Jeff Jarrett.
The creators of Who Killed WCW should do a show "in the same universe" called a Who damaged TNA.
That might happen along with who ruined AEW.
This is Christmas for Uncle Dave
The disconnect of the people who made the Arquette decision is not having a celebrity win the title as the main issue, its who they had. They had a C level dorky actor win it, I know was movie tie in at at time, and he was in scream movies, etc, but he wasnt seen as an A list actor, then or now. If that was a Stallone/Arnold of the day, some big time "tough guy" major star, dont rememeber who were then, Vin DIesel, whomever, ,then it would have gotten better publicity and maybe not as harshly criticized. To not see even that all these years later shows the bubble they all live in
They would have kept the narration they did on the show even if they had your or Brian on the show. They will take the 6 hours or whatever they do of interviews you do with them and use the 5 minutes that would have fit your story like they do with everyone on those Vice wrestling shows.
You wanna know what russo,Eric and cornette on rare occasions have in common?...They love to say they were part of the success...but not the failures...Then again...a lot of wrestling people do..But those in particular.
Bang on. And all of their fans will claim they're a genius.
Cornette didn't kill shit. He was outed from Russo. Twice.
I mean they kinda of were except Russo. Jim trained Countless stars from the Ruthless Aggression Era and still is a major merch seller. Eric did beat Vince for 83 weeks straight and Russo did right some major storylines apparently
@@rickyvenegas9286 Those guys in OVW would have made it whoever was in charge. They had the bodies Vince looked for.
Most people in life fall into this category in my experience.
Holy sh*t!!!! Booker T totally buried Dark Side Of The Ring (DSOTR) as a show, Hulk Hogan and especially Eric Bischoff on a recent interview he had with "The Goat" Brad Gilmore, on his Podcast Heat, produced by Reality of Wrestling, regarding episode 3 of Who Killed WCW. Booker T got VERY heated about Hulk Hogan almost ruining Booker T's WCW Championship/Title win.
Booker T reflected on Hulk Hogan's creative control and Eric Bischoff essentially inflating Hulk Hogan's already massive ego, and Eric Bischoff being an accomplice to Hulk Hogan damaging the business, with their backstage politics. Booker T has also disappointed in a comment made by Hulk Hogan disrespecting Booker T's WCW World Championship run.
Booker T, pretty much called Hulk Hogan extremely selfish, Eric Bischoff as Hulk Hogan's biggest mark, and inaccurate DSOTR is as a show, as regrets being on DSOTR. Booker T, while saying Eric Bischoff did a lot for him, along with Vince Russo, but Booker did say Vince Russo had some great ideas, but also has some no so great ideas, and Booker T's respect for Eric Bischoff went down.
I wouldn’t say Booker buried anyone. He gave his perspective on the truth. He didn’t say anything really shocking. Everyone knew Bischoff sided with Hulk on just about everything.
I don't think russo's ideas were that bad. Watch the Russo led ppv's today and they hold up imo. Of course it wasn't all great Judy bag well, hulk and jarrett but the new blood had potential. Russo just needs a governor he's a good 2-3 just can't be allowed to do all his ideas
In other words, "I'm repeating the same the lie to try to get clout from marks in this DYING industry despite Vince McMahon tanking the WWE in the last 25 years."
@@ElAssoWipe-o huh?
Wow… there was a second in there where it seemed like Dave was going to become self aware and start talking about the declines in AEW’s business.
According to Mike Graham in a shoot interview, Benoit went to HR about Graham threatening Benoit. Graham supposedly confronted Benoit about it before a show.
"According to Mike Graham..." doesn't mean a whole lot. 😂
According to Mike Graham, he thought he saved the company a bunch of money by getting rid of these guys because they did not draw a dime. boy Mike was so wrong. 😂
@@1992geop And Graham never drew anywhere.
@@Rjensen2 that’s what I said he was wrong. Mike was never a draw.
@@1992geop uh ...yeah? 🤣
Bryan is so angry because he wrote a whole book on this topic. But the actual people involved are in this documentary
His book was very good
His book showed just how much of a mark these two.
@@domdom3810 Full sentences, bro
Bryan has never come off angry, you are delusional.
Secondly, noone's marking over himself like Russo does. He has never made a bad decision according to himself.
Dave makes excuses for days on AEW and their drop in ratings but no mercy for WCW lmao
When it comes to stupidity in wrestling predator vince will always be #1
But Pole match crazy Russo tried to come close
Out of all the things people get mad at, I seemed to be more upset at other things. Nitro going 3 hours turned me off a bit. Adding a second show that didn’t really aid to the storylines was a huge turn off. Sting winning the title and then losing it that same night to DDP probably made me the most furious out of anything that happened there. The blood not spilling on Kevin bothered me way more than the fpod. Idk I just feel like some things are overrated while other things aren’t called out at all. Obviously Starrcade 97 was a terrible botch.
No one was watching by the time the blood came down
@@thegoughandbordenfamily8234 True lmao
This is why whenever I watch a clip from Bischoff or Russo giving ANY sort of booking advice, whether it's towards AEW, WWE, or otherwise, I can't help but get second hand embarrassment. Where they the only reason for WCW's demise? Were all their creative decisions bad? Surely not, but their alibi that corporate executives didn't like wrestling has to be the dumbest thing I ever hear, and they still use that excuse to this day. These executives would not have pulled the plug on something that was making profit, anybody who thinks otherwise never worked a real job in their life.
Bischoff almost took down Vince. AEW hasn't even come close and WWE has been utter 💩 the last 5 years. TK hasn't done 💩 yet
@@keni95851 That's such a naive way of looking at it. Yes, Bischoff did some great things for WCW, there is plenty of proof for that and the NWO is the biggest proof their is, but that doesn't deny the fact that he also made a ton of mistakes. WCW were losing a lot of money when he was there, and he refuses to take any substantial blame for that. He doesn't want to accept that his booking towards the end of tenure was just catastrophic.
As for AEW and WWE, that's not my point, and I don't care what their current numbers are. Bischoff was the reason why WCW rose to the top, and he was also the reason why it come tumbling down. Vince Russo was just the cherry on top of a very ugly cake.
Bischoff is the ONLY person to get the better of Vince and the WWF/E. He was responsible for one of the biggest wrestling storylines in history. To completely disregard his opinion on booking and creative is just silly.
Maybe you missed the part in episode 1 where Dick Cheatham, the financial controller for Turner, said that about 80% of the people there hated wrestling and that his boss warned him not to help WCW because executive management didn't want it and if it would be like committing career suicide if they perceived that he was.
Speaking of Vince Russo, I think it's funny anytime he's on a show on Vice, he loves to complain, "Oh it's just wrestling, the wrestling business is terrible''. Then afterwards, he's all, "Oh, by the way, please, Tony Khan or Triple H, if you're listening to me, please offer me a job and I'll help your ratings.
"Our ideas are so great! But business is going down." Doesn't that describe the current state of AEW?
Nooo NO aew is doing great not in ticket sales merchandise sales or people watching on TV. But 5star matches it's Great!😂😂😂😂
They are literally talking about AEW if you replace the words wcw wit aew and russo/Bischoff and sullivan with the GREAT TONY CLOWN.😂😂😂😂
AEW is doing better than you think. Your hate for them won't allow you to see it because you're being fucked by the Fed. The company that covers up rape.
@@THEATTKIDdoing better based on what metric?
Last time I checked aew is still running and wcw has been dead for over 20+ years
@@matt92550 and aew is just a corpse.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Everything Dave said about the things wrong with WCW,AEW does the same shit!!!
AEW is on a downturn but AEW is no where near as bad as WCW 2000-2001. Go watch some shows from back then and tell me AEW is the same? Not even close. AEW are making there own mistakes which totally different than what happened with WCW.
WCW 99-01 was like MTV's jackass show
:57 Actually DDP didn't say "We're not doing this", he was more in disbelief that Arquette going over and becoming WCW World Champion was really the finish. He had every right feeling that way because who in their right mind would actually think that's a good idea!
I did the count. Benoit lost 5 PPV’s in a row between February and June 1998. Then, he wasn’t on a PPV until January 1999, where he finally got a win again. Interestingly, Benoit won pretty much all his TV and house show matches during this same time, so take that to mean what you will.
He was hurt in second half of 98
One good thing that came out of David Arquette winning the world championship was Booker T becoming world champion
They acted like they didn't have a black champ in WCW before....Ron Simmons did it around 10 years before. Booker T deserved it for sure though by his own merit and that was the only good thing to come out of that debacle.
Who Killed WCW. The biggest dead horse in the history of wrestling.
Everything Dave is saying here about wcw is what AEW is doing now
Glad these guys are doing these videos after each episode bc as a guy who was only 3 years old during all that wcw 2000 stuff I hear all these different stories from all these sides so I like to listen to these guys to cut through some of that agenda in the doc
don't be fooled. As someone who was alive and aware during this era, Dave and Chico have their own agenda to push regarding Bischoff and Russo. I can't recommend Guy Evans's book enough if you want a 100% unbiased look at how WCW came together and fell apart.
@@OlDirtyBaron honestly from everyone’s takes it seems like at the end of the day the company died bc their show got worse while wwe was having its hottest period of all time. The agendas always seem to come out when it comes time to divide up the blame pie for why those shows were so bad. I might have to give that book a read
Don't forget the WCW Heavyweight Tournament from 1999 had a US Championship defence in the first round
I think Brian Knobbs killed wcw. He was one nasty customer. Did you know he was hardcore champion and wcw tag champion? He's the boy. He's the boy. He's the naaaaa....steeee....boyy
The most telling part of the documentary was when Russo said he was burnt out at the end of his time with the WWF. So, by his own admission, he took a new bigger job in WCW when he was already creatively tapped out.
I don't care for Russo at all, but he may have been creatively fried in that particular environment. In WCW, he had a new group of guys to work with, so it was a fresh start where he could do a lot of the same stuff but with different people. And he didn't have VKM harnessing him so he could run wild, unfortunately.
Why isnt hogan on the doc? Provably lies too much to be in a documentary
Like you said he would lie too much that's why I wouldn't take anything he said at face value.
You need to give Bischoff a ton of credit for building what he did out of nothing, without even the benefit of licensing fee revenue; which is the backbone of every organization.
Thank god for "Reliving the war" because it helps you see week by week how bad WCW was. Even when it was good you can see the seeds of the bad.
I find it hilarious that Meltzer is breaking down the downfall of WCW meanwhile the company he praises (AEW) is on the trajectory of repeating the same story
The older guy has so much knowledge and insight on WCW! Why did they not bring him on the show? He would’ve fit right in considering how each person they interview was just shitting on each other. Was he some sort of executive from WCW they never mentioned? Or is he going to be on for the last episode of Who Killed WCW?
What "older guy"?
@@obsoleteworldsDave
Was Russo and then Hogan
That doesn't work for me brother
Hogan invented wrestling in 1978. Source = Hogan
@@alexmonro1711 the funniest Hogan lie I ever heard was that he was offered by Metallica to join the band after Cliff Burton passed away. I was like stop it lol
@@JohnRigby5011 😂😂
Wcw was most profitable under Hogan's years.
Bischoff, Hogan, Russo, Nash and Hall. Those are the culprits.
They protected Russo and Bishoff because those guys make a living living in their own shadow by talking shit about modern wrestling, which is booked significantly better than anything they had maybe besides the original nwo stuff.
Remind me what Dave and Bryan do again?
13:39 so you're telling me that Nancy should have stayed with Kevin?
Well considering the other guy murdered her....
As bad as Judy bagwell on pole was, and Dave talking crap of how bad it was, that is something I could totally see his buddies over at AEW try to do, in fact Tony probably watched this show, he's like "I got it, Trent's mom and minivan on a pole"
This is going to be GREAT!
Thanks guys
I killed WCW by not watching it
Bischoff dislikes Tony Khan because he sees himself in him.
Kevin's barfight with Chris was legitimate
The reason they’re protecting Bischoff & Russo is all political. The Rock is a producer, he’s buddies with Russo and Hogan, ergo Bischoff and Rock wants to be “Mr. Nice Guy” with everyone 😮
Tbf, Booker has never been the brightest bulb in the box
Isn't this the same as vince macmahon winning the wwe championship.
i don't think david arquette winning the championship was inherently stupid. its the execution.
When they put that title on David Arquette I couldn’t watch it! The disrespect to a title that at one time was considered the most prestigious title in all of wrestling even though the NWA withdrew its recognition in late ‘93 around the time that Rude had just won the title from Flair it was still one of the biggest prizes in all of Wrestling
Bryan not understanding it was the booking meeting says it all.
Russo ratings were up, when he left they went from 3.5 to 2.1... within four weeks, they always claim the numbers were down.. show the numbers
How did the live events and ppv buys do under him?
Russo (and his small yet inexplicably noisy number of stans) like to trump "the ratings went up!" by only comparing Russo to lame duck shows and the wreckage he left behind. He never wants to compare himself to the standard he was hired to achieve.
His first set of ratings were only "up" if you (very artificially) compare them to a freakish set of circumstances in the four weeks that preceded him. He got paid big bucks to get WCW above where Bischoff had them.....and he *failed* spectacularly:
June through mid-September 1999 (upon which Bischoff was relieved of duties), Nitro averaged 3.26 in head-to-heads with RAW. (They also pulled a couple of 4s back-to-back because of non head-to-head circumstances, I excluded those numbers). It's during a lame duck four week period that the ratings descend to a number that Russo decides to compare himself to, especially the 2.6 on 10-11-1999. But that's not what Russo was hired to beat. He was hired to get them back to 4s and up, which he couldn't do or even come close to doing.
Instead, he got them back to where they'd been only a month prior (the same conditions which weren't good enough for Bischoff to keep his job): Those Nitros averaged a 3.21, almost *identical* (except with a month-to-month downturn in PPV buyrates, no discernible gains in house show business and an eventual loss of a third hour of revenue to maintain the illusion of the number he was touting).
You're 100% right the numbers plummeted upon his (first) relief of duties. But call me crazy, maybe that had a *little* more to do with the fact that practically 25-50% of the roster that had been regularly featured on television either had their time reduced drastically or disappeared entirely. In the span of 1-2 weeks, Hart and Jarrett get injured (Hart for good) and they were to be featured prominently in title programs. And then Malenko, Saturn, Guerrero, Konnan, Douglas *and* Benoit (the guy they put the belt on for 24 hours) depart entirely (and not for any love of Russo's booking but a disdain at the thought of working for Kevin Sullivan.....if WCW hired Terry Taylor or pretty much anyone other than Sullivan or Graham, we're having a very different conversation).
And hey, if Russo is so gung ho to talk about that plummet (and fair enough, go for it), then how's about we look at how it went his second time around? Those Nitros averaged a *whopping* 2.8 and I'm including a couple of unopposed episodes that pull the average up slightly. Of course the ratings dropped again when he left because he didn't leave anything for anyone to properly book: He'd devalued any promotional value of champions (since titles changed hands once a week, it seemed) and left no stars bigger than he found them. It's definitely to the detriment of those who came after him that they didn't right the ship.....but let's not act like they were given the same hand.
Bottom line: Vince Russo-- at the most *unbelievably generous* interpretation-- was an overpaid booker who accomplished nothing. That's the *unbelievably great* interpretation. At worst, he torpedoed a troubled but still salvagable promotion with his complete lack of foresight on how to increase the value of the product he was put in charge of.
@@terriblecoughing4767 WCW never had strong house show or PPV numbers. Ever. They were primarily a TV show and was promoted as such. Ratings for Turner is what the order of the day was and all else was secondary.
Russo did turn WWF around.
He helped. He didn't singlehandedly save or turn around the WWF.
Nobody is saying the jackass never had a good idea but he had a filter in Vince McMahon. Everyone has bad ideas from time to time but if you have no one there to tell you they're bad, every idea seems like a good idea.
People forget hogan lost cleanly to Kidman when Russo was there. He had to give him a bit of a chance
Sounds like a AEW show
Lol. You can use this exact footage when the "Who killed AEW" series gets made.
That episode 3 failed to explain Brad Siegal's side of his stories about his involvement with the Bash at the Beach 2000 incident. You have 2 guys: Russo and Bischoff claimed Siegal told them this and that. First, Bischoff claimed Siegal told Russo to go with Bischoff's ideas. It was a 2 out 1 votes with Hogan and Siegal chose Bischoff's ideas. Russo on the other hand claimed Siegal chose Russo's ideas over Bischoff, and Siegal did not want to use Hogan on TV anymore because he was too expensive. Russo also claimed Siegal did not want Russo to call Hogan after the ppv, which led to Hogan filed a lawsuit against Russo for defamation of character, and WCW for breach of contract. So, which creative ideas did Siegal chose? Did he want to get rid of Hogan, and using Russo to do his dirty work? Bischoff is a bullface liar who can't get his stories straight just like Hogan. That's why the case between Hogan vs Russo was dismissed. It's a good thing Hogan is not on the show because he's going lie anyways. This is a guy who doesn't know the whole details about the Montreal Screwjob. You can't believe everything Hogan and Bischoff says when talking about the Starrcade '97 main event botched, and the Bash at the Beach controversy. I'll take Russo's words out of everybody who is involved.
3:13 Raw/Nitro post Arquette title win
Raw = 7.33
Nitro = 2.45
The first week he booked 2.6, the last show he booked Jan 1st 3.4, by End of Feb under Sully it was 2.1
Straight facts. Did PPV fall yes, did house show neither grow or fall - yes, was it bad for advertisers ? Yes
But did TV ratings go down - NO, they increased almost an entire point.
Now wrestling shows would KILL for 2.4
Excellent video
Dave, Tony is doing the same thing! He showed the insecurity footage for ratings.
I love Dave saying they are all pathological liars who spread misinformation yet Dave once again said they only made Booker t the world champion because of the lawsuit. Everyone has disputed this from all sides and have said Dave is making that up and Booker was planned for a run long before that
Uncanny how AEW is following in WCW’s footsteps.
#RentFree
They hired Russo for car crash tv. He delivered. That's on Warner. They thought it was Russo and not the massive talent of the attitude era.
Also They gave Russo shit. Lenny lane... Ducham jr... everyone in street cloths.
He had good ol boys, cruiserweights in street cloths, decimated mid card and Hogan control at the top. Good fn luck bro 😂
Ha I love the moment he realises in realtime that “my ideas are great”, “ok why are the numbers going down?” applies to AEW and brushes past it in sheepish way
How did Russo bring the numbers down when they went up?
The ratings prove Russo right. Even though each episode in his first run at the end of 1999 felt like they were 10 hours long because 1 million things happened every week, when he was gone, the show became boring as hell. If they just kept him, they probably would have kept steady in the mid 3’s
Like corny said "it was a three headed monster, Herd, bischoff, and russo"
And Cornette is the same guy that was fired from every company that he worked for and has other men sleep with his wife.
Also, why do you Corny marks keep dodging the facts that I post? You're just as much of a liar as Cornette LMAO
Episode 4 airs Tuesday final nitro
We need to start acknowledging that Steve Austin was good for 3 years and 3 years only. Reigns is better
I agree with you 100%.
Mike Graham pulled the knife out on Benoit and threatened to cut his head off and mount it on a stick
Alvarez's book was horrendous trash. Nobody talked to him.
I don't get the idea Dave and Bryan have that there aren't any criticisms about decisions made by Bischoff or Russo. There's plenty. It just also acknowkedges the good they did for the company and other factors leading to wce failing
Between Russo, Bischoff, Dave, and Bryan…a lot of BS.
Well I will say that when it comes to bullshit, Dave and Bryan are experts. 🤣🤣🤣
The lack of accountability in this VICE Series is overwhelming.
This series was always going to be a train wreck.
Your commentary on the Radicalz jump is accurate
Graham told Benoit he would cut his head off for trying to get him and Sully fired
Man meltzer is ignorant! Mistake after mistake mistake. Eg. Bischoff exposed himself that he wasn’t paying attention to wrestling when the radicalz appeared on wwe. YEAH… Eric has been FIRED. He has told the story of how he got his payout, walked away, never wanted to think about wrestling again, and immediately went on a vacation in the wilderness lol. There was no reason for him to be following and every reason for him to be bitter and burned out. It was when- by chance - he saw those guys appear on tv that he said to his wife that wcw will be calling him soon - and he was right.
RUSSO > KHAN 💥✨️🎉🎉❇️#EOMREACTS☪️🎉🎉✨️💥
lol Dave and Bryan wanting fact checking is hilarious
Ol special k at it again 😂
@@Phantom7inCH ol Dr, I mean Phantom can't prove me wrong...AGAIN as he's intellectually inferior 🤣🤣
@@keni95851 Aww man watching Kendra unravel in the comment sections never gets old. Trying to use words like intellectually inferior is one of the many moves special K uses to compensate for having a small brain and a small 🍆.
@Phantom7inCH awww man watching you spout repetitive ad hom after ad hom because you're intellectually ill equipped to have any kind of real debate is so funny 😂😂😂
@@Phantom7inCH deleting posts because he got owned 🤣🤣🤣🤣
even if this show is trying to protect russo's image he still came across as a complete ahh
Big L for Chico and Dave on this one. The show didn't protect Bischoff or Russo. Not having constant denigration and utter burial of a person doesn't mean they were "protected." the show acknowledged their stinkers and their successes and allowed both guys to defend themselves and their bad decisions while highlighting said bad decisions. That's not "protection" that's called being fair.
borash probably played a role as well
Me. I did it.
What is it only that Kennan was the only good one on the show? What did Booker say that was not good? Is it because Booker isn't one of you guys favorites? And you guys must really despise Russo, if you think anyone on that show was being complimentary to Russo. Everybody has been good on the show except Dwayne and Russo.
Wwe portraying Eric as a hero and building him and rewarding him in helping wwe to damage AEW
But he is a loser, he is the reason WCW closed, wwe fired him multiple times and he even bankrupt himself
What a C V
Dave at 3:03 where was this energy when AEW aired the punk footage?? 😂
I still love that it went down word for word exactly how CM Punk said it did on the Helwani show. Yet when these two bozo's watched it they tried to tell you about how punk lied lied.
When Meltzer shits on WCW it's applicable to AEW
Kip fry. .russo. herd. Eric and wcw board killed it
Is that so Dave????😂😂😂😂
Maybe you should send this to your boy Tony Clown.
How much blame will Dave accept when they film "Who Killed AEW"
How come we are only getting wcw in these Wednesday clips 🥹
2030 A&E Who killed AEW
Uncle Howdy killed WCW
They want us to think Bo is Uncle Howdy but it's actually David Arquette!
And yet these clowns dont see there ( boy ) tony is following the wcw playbook to being out the bussiness in 3 - 4 years. Those who dont learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Hey brian hey dave tell the billionaires son that!!!!
Like and then like wcw and like the title like USA today like..a wrestling journalist ladies and gentlemen