Positioning at 3B

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  • Опубликовано: 20 май 2018
  • How deep should you be playing at 3B? Mark DeRosa and Bill Ripken discuss the trend of third basemen playing deeper at the hot corner.
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  • @funmachine3
    @funmachine3 6 лет назад +76

    GREAT, GREAT STUFF. Kids learn so much from Major Leaguers talking like this. I remember watching an interview with JT Snow from SF Giants as a high schooler. Just something as simple as him saying always keep your eyes on the bottom half of the baseball when your're catching the ball at first makes a huge difference when you're receiving. Awesome stuff

  • @brandonloner5070
    @brandonloner5070 6 лет назад +13

    This is great. Third base is that one spot where you get confused on where to play sometimes. It’s great to break down the little things. And great advice for playing as deep as your arm will let you. Straight facts 💯

  • @ChrisFerrara
    @ChrisFerrara 4 года назад +6

    This is spot on. “Pickin’ & Grinnin’.” Not many feelings like it. But maybe they are playing so far back because the game is faster and the players are stronger. The exit velocities off of some of these bats are red hot, and some of these dudes have cannons, so they can afford to be back. But being able to react at 3rd base is what makes you a great 3rd basement. The angles was a great closing point, too. These players are just so fast that they can cover so much ground and still make the plays. Todd Frazier is a top notch player. Excellent example. I think we all knew he was going to be that good watching him in the LLWS. Great stuff, MLB Network. Enjoyed this video.

  • @kevinzettler1568
    @kevinzettler1568 6 лет назад +15

    Keep educating us ! Thanks great show !

  • @user-ck5hp1cy8o
    @user-ck5hp1cy8o 6 лет назад +23

    This is so underrated!

  • @juancamacho2527
    @juancamacho2527 6 лет назад +10

    i love watching this

  • @Algorerhythm
    @Algorerhythm 4 года назад +2

    I only time I ever watched Chipper play in person was a 2010 game in Atlanta vs. the Rockies. He would play every hitter 2 steps in on the grass until 2 strikes. Then he would move back even with the bag with 2 strikes. I remember that because it was not something I saw with many other big league third basemen. Chipper also got picked off 2nd base in that game by Tulo lol.

  • @raider8sox
    @raider8sox 5 лет назад +1

    was always a fan of third basemen even though i played short stop in high school.

  • @luisfred17
    @luisfred17 6 лет назад +2

    Best baseball show

  • @adamkidwell6407
    @adamkidwell6407 5 лет назад +6

    I can see why playing back is a thing in the majors cause you have perfectly manicured grass/dirt and if you've got the arm, why not. In high school I always played even with the bag because we had a shitty infield with lips/rocks etc. So the less hops the ball had the better. I also didn't have the strongest arm.

    • @blacksheepsoftball
      @blacksheepsoftball 2 года назад +1

      honestly I've started to do this for slowpitch because the dirt infields are ass like you were mentioning lol

    • @deusvult6920
      @deusvult6920 2 года назад +1

      My high school field was pretty nice but little league was real bad because we were kind of out of the way of where people lived so armadillos came out and dug holes looking for food. We'd have to stop the game during night games at least once because of an armadillo in the outfield.
      I was usually the catcher but every 4 or 5 games I'd play third and man the ball would hit one of those holes and take a huge skip. Took so many balls off the upper chest and face. After a blood nose I started playing a little deeper lmao

  • @gard.vapor2k2datop94
    @gard.vapor2k2datop94 6 лет назад +2

    Thanks Guys

  • @joshharvin2555
    @joshharvin2555 3 года назад

    No Adrian Beltre in the intro was a bad start to a surprisingly great video!!

  • @alsacrime4806
    @alsacrime4806 6 лет назад +18

    Playing 3B where you can catch a foul line drive is just stupid, a ball hit down the line is a double, get over it.
    Several decades of coaching and study show me clearly that eleven (11) times as many balls go between the third baseman and the shortstop as between the third baseman and the line.
    Let that sink in.
    One double versus 11 singles.
    Graig Nettles set the MLB assists record for 3B while playing 25 feet closer to straightaway CF than any other 3B, basically playing where everyone else plays a big, slow left-handed dead pull hitter.
    Doing sp also takes away from the biggest hole on the field, the one up the middle, and since the SS is closer to second, this results in more double plays but fewer pivot-related injuries.

  • @burningphoneix
    @burningphoneix 6 лет назад +81

    And yet sluggers still too proud to bunt. MLB can ban infielders all together and big guys will still strike out trying to get the homer.

    • @Pr0gamingelite
      @Pr0gamingelite 6 лет назад +2

      burningphoneix homers don’t cause you to strike out

    • @KTF0
      @KTF0 6 лет назад +3

      Especially against the shift with two outs. You see Rizzo do it every once in a while.

    • @bonepowell1826
      @bonepowell1826 6 лет назад

      DINGERS⚾️⚾️⚾️

    • @TheForeverRanger
      @TheForeverRanger 6 лет назад +14

      Frustrates the hell out of me when I see the shift or a 3rd baseman so far off and I see a hitter not even attempt to bunt. I get that bunting isn't easy but hitters are so caught up in the long ball and launch angle that they can't see the solution sitting right in front of them. If I see that the third baseman isn't there because of the shift or he is out there in shallow left, I am bunting that SOB all day long and say thanks for the free knock.

    • @EricAKATheBelgianGuy
      @EricAKATheBelgianGuy 5 лет назад

      @@TheForeverRanger I was that player that actually did do that, although they almost never shifted on me. Mostly because there was no need to - I couldn't pull the ball at all.

  • @renegregoriox
    @renegregoriox 4 года назад +5

    1. Catcher
    2. 3B
    3. SS
    Those are the hardest positions in baseball

  • @AnEternalEnigma
    @AnEternalEnigma 6 лет назад +5

    The Braves tried Mark DeRosa as the everyday 3B in 2004. After he made four errors at 3B in one game, they benched him and moved Chipper back from LF to 3B.

  • @djmilkdudgbdad2669
    @djmilkdudgbdad2669 3 года назад

    Coach this season had me playing on the third base grass because the fields we play on suck. I am on the freshman/sophmore team and we were playing a JV team for one game. He has me play back a little at first but even with the bag towards the end of the game. Long story short JV guys were hitting the ball hard so I had less time to react, lost the game partly because of that. My arm is suited for playing back. Self esteem destroyed after the game. Positioning is everything.

  • @baileysmith4744
    @baileysmith4744 4 года назад +1

    where is Donaldson in the intro clip?

  • @outabeat
    @outabeat 2 года назад

    I had season seats in section 103, field level at Anaheim and Vlad Guererro hit a foul ball that reached my seat in seconds. I caught it in order to save my life and my hands were numb for the rest of the game.

  • @luisa8701
    @luisa8701 5 лет назад +7

    You play as far back as your arm allows. That's the philosophy Matt Chapman plays by and he is the best third baseman in all of baseball.

    • @luisa8701
      @luisa8701 5 лет назад +1

      @Moist Gnome his gold and platinum glove say so.

    • @luisa8701
      @luisa8701 5 лет назад +2

      @Moist Gnome Chapman had 29 defensive runs saved in 2018. The next closest third baseman was Adrian Beltre with 10. I rest my case.

    • @luisa8701
      @luisa8701 4 года назад

      @Michael Ye what's the reason they're named Anthony Rendon and Nolan Arenado?

    • @luisa8701
      @luisa8701 4 года назад

      @Michael Ye Wow. Such a great point.

    • @joshconnell8797
      @joshconnell8797 3 года назад

      @Moist Gnome best defensive 3b

  • @mazukakai
    @mazukakai Год назад

    A discussion on third basemen, but no mention of Arenado?

  • @Tristanramos1
    @Tristanramos1 3 года назад +2

    why are they dressed like they work at a verizon store from 2001

  • @rogelioosuna1250
    @rogelioosuna1250 5 лет назад

    Me gustaria que estos videos tubieran dub titulos !!!!

  • @williamdavis313
    @williamdavis313 2 года назад

    what is that glove

  • @dangelo1369
    @dangelo1369 3 года назад

    Analytics has a place in baseball. But I fear that it and the rising salary structures are strangling the small ball aspect of the game and making managers more risk averse which keeps them from calling for bunting (except in certain situations) and eliminating base stealing altogether.

  • @Ian00003
    @Ian00003 3 года назад

    I understand what they're saying but Nolan and Chapman are both worth 20+ OAA since 2019

  • @masonhill3739
    @masonhill3739 4 года назад

    If you make the play and hold multiple people from getting a double or a triple then do it. Another thing if you make the out or the double play then you made the out or the double play. DON’T CRITICIZE!!!!!

  • @bradygagne6992
    @bradygagne6992 2 года назад

    An out is an out. Half step or two steps is still an out

  • @nolansteurer6834
    @nolansteurer6834 6 лет назад +8

    Chapman can afford to play that deep with his arm strength and his pure speed/reactions

    • @marvellbeckhamll3394
      @marvellbeckhamll3394 6 лет назад

      That doesn't make sense because if it's a slow roller than if a guy like Turner hits it he'll be safe every time

    • @rafeyboi0967
      @rafeyboi0967 5 лет назад +2

      It’s no reason to stand where he is.

    • @lRosettaStonedl
      @lRosettaStonedl 5 лет назад +5

      @@rafeyboi0967 his platinum glove says you're wrong.

    • @joshconnell8797
      @joshconnell8797 3 года назад

      @@rafeyboi0967 besides the fact that he’s the best 3rd baseman in the mlb

  • @robertharvey9047
    @robertharvey9047 4 года назад +1

    Boston red Sox

  • @_Dvan07_
    @_Dvan07_ 4 года назад +1

    I agree that some third baseman play a little too deep but look at the teams on the first list and think about how good that third baseman is defensively and then look at the second list and tell me that those third baseman aren’t better/the best defensive third baseman’s in baseball.

  • @shanecancilla153
    @shanecancilla153 4 года назад +2

    Meanwhile Chapman is the best fielding third baseman in baseball.
    And arguably the best defender overall.

    • @joshconnell8797
      @joshconnell8797 3 года назад

      Best defender in baseball

    • @isaiahhernandez2966
      @isaiahhernandez2966 3 года назад

      @@joshconnell8797 Idk I think that’s Nolan arenado but it’s definitely close both amazing

  • @robertharvey9047
    @robertharvey9047 4 года назад +1

    3b 2b

  • @tysonrinker5958
    @tysonrinker5958 4 года назад

    Its def a different game now

  • @bforbombs8742
    @bforbombs8742 3 года назад

    More than half of those would’ve not been routine if standing normally it would’ve been a tough play or not even a play at all just a rocket passed you

  • @bradypats1
    @bradypats1 6 лет назад

    Nobody @ Miguel Andujar he's on suicide watch today

  • @bubblediddy
    @bubblediddy 3 года назад

    Its probably the stat gnats in the front office asking them to play that deep. Too much of the analytic/statistical involved.

  • @robertharvey9047
    @robertharvey9047 4 года назад +1

    new York mets

  • @lRosettaStonedl
    @lRosettaStonedl 5 лет назад +3

    Funny how Chapman won a platinum glove after this video criticizing him.

    • @zitofan4life
      @zitofan4life 5 лет назад +2

      Branden Nong and led the entire majors in defensive runs saved

    • @alexoh4699
      @alexoh4699 5 лет назад +1

      Did you watch the video? He didnt critize the player but the system

    • @lRosettaStonedl
      @lRosettaStonedl 5 лет назад +1

      @@alexoh4699 the best defensive 3rd baseman play deeper. Did you watch the video?

    • @alexoh4699
      @alexoh4699 5 лет назад +1

      @@lRosettaStonedl lol i dont think you watched the video.

    • @lRosettaStonedl
      @lRosettaStonedl 5 лет назад

      @@alexoh4699 explain.

  • @RandomGuy42016
    @RandomGuy42016 3 года назад

    Bunting will solve all this. It’ll force guys to come back to their regular spots and not shift as much.

  • @kevinzettler1568
    @kevinzettler1568 6 лет назад +3

    And nice glove laugh out loud

  • @silastaylor2227
    @silastaylor2227 2 года назад

    I disagree people hit baseballs so hard need more time to react and closer throws mean nothing

  • @coachcollins3
    @coachcollins3 4 года назад +3

    So stupid. Arguing for playing shallower at 3b.. immediately go to the graphic and the 2 best third basemen in the game are the ones that play the deepest.

  • @baileysmith4744
    @baileysmith4744 3 года назад

    can we all agree that Chapman is overrated? the dude makes awful throws (hard throws, but awful throws) and only gets to the balls he gets to because he plays in the outfield like a shortstop