Which Tudor Black Bay Should You Buy? (41 vs 54 vs 58)
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In this video, we compare the Tudor Black Bay Heritage 41 with the Tudor Black Bay 58 and the Tudor Black Bay 54 to see which is better. If you could buy only one Tudor Black Bay, which one would you go for?
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I've owned a 58 for 3 years and it is my favorite dive watch of all time. I like it better than my Submariner. I tried on a 54 this year, it wears great and I love that clasp. But I don't love the contrast between the gilt dial and the monochromatic bezel. And no red triangle, either. So I am sticking with my 58. I also tried on a 41 - too tall for my tastes, very slab sided - not my cup of tea. Your Reddish Brown Simple Handmade Strap pairs perfectly with the 58 (@ 2:48 in your video), may have to get one of those. Cheers!
Black Bay 54 onwner for 1 year and very, very happy!
I went for a BB58 in blue and paired it with the bracelet from a Ranger 39, which has no revets and comes with the glide lock clasp. Simply Perfect 👌🏽.
i'm considering buying the ranger bracelet aswell (800 bucks tho :'D), how do you feel with the full brushed sides of the bracelet paired?
@@gian_zx1197 I prefer the less blingy look. There are several RUclips videos of this combo.
ruclips.net/video/sWeYaFx0a0I/видео.htmlsi=OoKObp0QM9JHlWcr
I replied yesterday, but for some reason, it's not showing in this conversation. To answer your question, I actually prefer the less blingy look of the brushed sides of the bracelet. There are several RUclips videos that show the exact combination of pairing the BB58 with a Ranger 39 bracelet.
The only lack of continuity with the Ranger bracelet, is that the side are brushed and not polished to match the BB case. But that's not noticeable. Neither are the presence or lack of faux rivets on the 58 bracelet. The clasp is the only benefit. Works well.
@@notDonaldFagen yeah that is my main concern, maybe i can polish the side
I own the GMT and the 54. My wrist is a touch bigger than 7”. The 54 is my favorite. Fits perfectly. I will likely be selling my GMT solely due to size.
For those who are watching this video thinking of what to buy. It’s 58. Size is perfect , color is interesting and you never get bored. Trust me , my taste is very good, given that I own a tons of Rolexes and tudors. Bb58 is the king, I love it more than my sub and my Pepsi and Daytona .
I finally got the BB58 Navy Blue that I’ve been pining over for years! That’s definitely the one for me!
And I love your straps!!!
thank you for all the different strap wrist shots!
58 on the original leather strap...... loved it since I purchased it in 2019
BB58 is perfect for me. I have the blue one.
I love the three, are pretty good and beautiful but in my 18cm. wrist, the 41 fits much better than 39 or 37, that’s why a own the 41 heritage (4 years and two months) and the BB GMT steel bracelet since 3 years and 4 months and I love both and and more than happy with them. Many thanks for the video.
Similar situation - owned 41 and now own a GMT pepsi. I figured I needed a date and couldn’t keep them both.
I really wanted to love 58 but whenever I tried it on at the AD, it always felt a bit small on my 7.25 in wrist
I have 20cm wrists and wear the 54, love the retro sizing
@@360peakperformance In the end, each person chooses what they like the most and what they are most comfortable with. Therefore it is ridiculous when some generalize and say that a watch is too big or small. It depends on who. By the way, the BB 54 is a very beautiful watch. Enjoy it!
Best undervalued Tudor is the Tudor Heritage Advisor, a titanium alarm watch at nearly half of retail.
This is my opinion for this very cool subject:
I have a family heirloom Rolex 6538 but will never wear it in the wild. As a matter of fact it is in a safe in a vault. I bought 5-digit sub back in 05-06 and still love it to this day and will always be in my rotation, but I also wanted to wear something vintage but there was nothing out there until the first Blackbay back in I guess 2010s some time. In hopes it would feel like the 6538, I found it was not and did not wear like it. 2018 comes around and the BB58 arrives.
The BB58 wears almost exactly the same as a Rolex 6538. The BB58 is 39mm x 11.9mm in height x 47mm lug to lug and a lug width of 20mm. The crown is 6-6.5mm. The Rolex 6538 is 38mm x 15.2mm in height due to the doomed x 47mm lug to lug and a lug width of 20mm. The crown is I believe 8mm last I checked.
I tried the BB54 and it was an awesome watch! Love the fit and feel but also did not fit like a 6538 at all which makes sense because it is a nod to an older vintage but even then it is it’s own thing as the vintage it is based off from 1954 it is based off is larger lug to lug and thickness. So the BB54 does not wear like a vintage but it wears very different in a good way. For me I wanted something like the 6538 and the BB58 is my preferred. Specifically, the Gilt dial. Lastly the lume on the BB54 is not as good as the BB58.
I think depending on which vintage you like most would determine which you prefer. Another option is simply owning both the BB58 and 54. For me I am waiting for 2028. I have a feeling they will make some refinements with the original BB58. They will make changes with the gnarling on the bezel and crown and may shrink it down to 38mm. Now that is a watch worth waiting for in my opinion. But no one would be wrong to own that nice BB54.
Black bay 58 for me. Love the proportions and the red triangle.
The 54 is just simply a match made in heaven for me and my 6” wrist. The 37mm is just absolutely perfect and it just seems like it was just tailored for me to wear. 37mm - 38mm is my sweet spot when it comes to watches. The biggest I’ll go is 40mm, I can barely get away with without them looking like a dinner plate. I made the the right choice with the 54 and I just love it ❤
I love my Tudor BB. I have 41, Pro, Pelagos date blue and BB gmt opaline dial. I can’t wait for the 54. Thanks for your input
58 all the way, 39mm is perfect. And I like the fact that it looks like a Rolex 5508
Bought a BB36, cannot be happier
The original 41. And I did. Because I have a larger wrist
My favorite BB is the Chronograph the Pro and the 58 Blue. I own all 3 and love them all!!
54 for me. I have always been a fan of smaller watches. 👍
I own both BB 54 and 36mm (Anthracite) and final BB will be the monochrome master chronometer!
Will be getting this watch the best BB on the market in my opinion...
It’s all based on your preference and wrist size / body size. I have a 7.25 inch wrist so the 54 looks ok on me, but I’m 190 cm high, so the watch looks very small. I went to 3 different ADs and tried it - my wife as well as 3 dealers told me it’s too small. Same with the 36 mm Explorer. 58 works best on majority of sizes, OG 41 is for people with bigger wrists and for those looking for bigger watches
I tried the 54 and it’s definitely not too small on my 6.5 wrist. I think as a 1 watch collection the 54 is perfect. However, if you have a multiple watch collection, you may want something with a little more spicey because for all its goodness, the 54 is a very boring looking watch at least when compared to the 58. Unlike the 54, the 58 is not an exact replica of back catalog Tudor, it is its own thing. The gilted bezel adds a nice warmth and harmony with the gold on the dial, the red triangle harkens back to the Rolex/Tudor Big Crown and serves to break up the monotony of the watch. I also find the more refined coin edge bezel and matching crown very elegant. It is a very special watch that isn’t an exact replica.
sorry to tell you bud (although this is not a downsize at all), but the 58 is a ''replica'' of 1958 submariners ref 6538; bb54 is a ''replica'' of 1954 submariners ref 6205...still i agree with the bb58 and it is the watch i've chosen too, it has more character, plus i think it's way more proportioned, the 54 feels a bit too squared, probably the 20mm lug should ve been at least 19mm, i don't know
Oh no doubt it’s heavily influenced by the 1958, but it’s certainly not a watch from anything in Rolex’s current catalogue. I have a Sub date, an Explorer 36 and feel my BB58 compliments my collection very well and it’s different enough in wear and look. I really like my BB58.
@@gian_zx1197it's a good night for us pedants - they are actually loosely based on the Tudor Oyster Prince Submariner references: 7922 and 7924 (both Mercedes hour hand) . There was also a hand winder (Tudor Oyster Submariner) with a normal pencil handset.
Some of the features (like the colour of the marker on the bezel at 12 o'clock) and case size are period correct but the Snowflake hands didn't come in until the late 1960s - I think the first Tudors to have snowflakes also had square indexes so they were a distant relative of the Pelagos.
@@evanssm1 which were both based on 54 and 58 rolex sub i believe
@@gian_zx1197 - The view that Tudor spent their formative years riding around on the coat tails of their uncle knocking out homages to their most successful references is only sustainable if you view history through the rose tinted spectacles of hindsight where the Submariner was always bound to be the icon that it is today. If the 1950s subs had sold in the millions then we'd be able to pick them up for a fiver down the market any day of the week. So, producing a homage to something that was not a particularly big seller any was only produced in that form for about a year seems a bit strange. However, there is actually a more sustainable argument that, the Sub would never have made it on to the wrist of Mr Bond and into the public imagination were it not for the contribution of their Cinderella sister.
It's a bit too much effort to spell out this thesis but, if you think of these two things, you might be able to get there for yourself:
1) Who really bought subs in the 1950s?
2) [seemingly irrelevant but very pertinent] - is the Peugeot 108 a homage to the Toyota Aygo, or are they both just based on the Citroen C3?
Anyway, it might turn out that, the two Tudor Oyster Prince Submariner references, might be more important to the success story of the Rolex Submariner than you think.
I had a 54, really great watch but just a tiny bit small for my liking.
I’d go for the newer monochrome 41mm personally.
In a large collection I've found room for eleven Tudors and though the original BB size is chunky I really enjoy the blue bezel black dial 41 on a black rubber strap. I rarely trade my watches especially once I have paid over £2K. I keep in mind that all brands make small incremental "improvements" to keep opening our wallets!!
This video helps me in my decision
For the sake of pedantry alone, the 41mm Black Bay is not the same as the Black Bay 41 but it is interesting that none of these mainstream divers make any reference in the name to the diameter.
I'm not a big diver fan (in more than one sense of the word "big") - I don't hate divers, It's just that I've never owned one and, as I have a smaller wrist, I tend to gravitate towards smaller watches. I was recently out shopping for a Black Bay 36 and, whilst I was looking, I had chance to look at some of the other Tudor watches including the 54 and the 58 (I didn't bother looking at the Black Bay). Before I'd seen them in the flesh I would have considered the 54 to be a no brainer but, even on my 6 1/2 inch wrist, and, even compared to a BB36, the 54 felt small and, much to my surprise, I preferred the 58.
I think that the bezel on any dive watch automatically takes a millimetre or two off the perceived size of the case compared to a watch with a narrower or smooth bezel.
Similarly I also looked at the Black Bay Pro. Although the pro is famously chunky, in terms of lug length and case diameter it seemed to be similar to the Ranger, but, to my mind the Ranger looked bigger on the wrist than the BB Pro (although this time around I only looked at the BB Pro, I didn't think to compare them side by side ).
The other smallish diver style watch that I'm curious about is the Oris Diver 65 Bronze. I think the diameter is similar to the BB 54, so, it would be interesting to see how that wears compared to the BB54
54 because of my wrist size as well as its history to the first Tudor Sub in 1954
The Tudor I would buy is the Rolex14060m, which has plenty of availability, no waiting list and isn’t an in house homage.
"In house Rolex movement maker Kenissi" - As far as I'm aware, Kenissi do not manufacture any movements for Rolex. Kenissi movements are used by several luxury watch brands, but they are neither owned by or manufacture for Rolex. Unless im very much mistaken.
I like the 54. But I prefer many design aspects of the 58 more. The finer coin edging of the crown and bezel play with light better and look more refined. The red triangle 🔺️ has that subtle splash. The gilting on the dial matches the gitled bezel (the 54 clashes and looks less cohesive. Pick one, don't do both). And I don't like the lollipop seconds hand as much.
The 54 looks too cold, mostly due to the lifeless bezel. The 58 has perfect balanced wamrth. The faux patina is also NOT overdone. It's not fully 'pumpkin orange' like some Heritage Omegas. It's just a little bit creamy and off-white, which happens to blend well with the rose gold handset. The whole theme is tied in together perfectly
As a 58 owner for two years now, the 54 left me envious of nothing. Sure, I'd take the clasp, even though I don't personally need its features.
I own bb58 but my favorite monochrome 41
Nice vid. I own the 41 and love it.
Love the host! Fun video.
I am a Rolex sub owner and the 54 is totally the best Tudor diver out of there.
Hey Chris! Welcome to the channel. Looking good in the "hot" seat 😉. Rich
😂😂 we need to double up on a video Rich! Imagine the chaos we’d cause in the office 😎
Kenissi doesn’t make movements for Rolex watches. They make movements for Tudor and some other brands. Aegler made Rolex movements then Rolex bought them so they’re in house technically now.
Good review. I have owned a BB58 for a couple of years and almost never wear it because the coin edge crown makes it very difficult to wind. A T-fit clasp would also help.
Black 41 in red all the way
BB GMT pepsi with Jubilee
41mm Monochrome…..the best of the best 👍🏻
Which one are you wearing in the video?
54 54 54 on rubber!
BB54
41mm the best
58
58 all day
58.. easy
Ha! The way you Brits say aluminium makes it sound like an element! Wait...wait a minute...
Love my black Bb58😍😍 but every Model is sexy👌🏻👌🏻
BORN TO DARE
None
The 41 if you are man the rest if you are not...
All looks the same. It doesn't matter.
I shouln’t buy a Tudor, it sucks… the name of the brand “Tu dors “ in French “you’re sleeping”, the buckle, the case, the hands, that rose on the crown, the steel feels cheap, the box… a total pass.
The 41mm is ghastly....