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Thank you so much for this, used your same exact settings on my own 7600X: went from 14364 cinebench score with ~96 °C and 135 W package power to 14756 score with 70 °C and 87 W max! Insane.
@@Crenzy-ct9tt I would start with undervolting it as in the video.., the chips clearly use way too much watts and power for their overclocked speeds by default..
Ryzen 5 7600X & 240mm AIO Went from idle 45°c avg 70-85°c max 95°c to idle 38°c avg 50-60°c max 62°, clockspeeds up to 5.5Ghz by copying these settings, amazing video!
thank you sir, i had issues with my temps and most importantly sound and power of my ak620 fans with my 7600x, i lower the curve to 30, with a limit temperature of 80 with auto setting in tdp, and now is running really smooth
For anyone interested in easy testing AMD's Ryzen Master software has in-built tests able to determine the suggested per-core negative curve optimized max safe setting each core is capable of for under-volting, which can then be inputted to the BIOS as Mike showed in this helpful vid.
I have the ASUS motherboard and it would give me BSOD every time I adjust anything. ASUS are so slow to fixing these things through updates. I'm running power saver at the moment until I can undervolt my CPU.
I couldn't ever get ryzen master to work, everytime I run it, it says it needs to be reinstalled everytime, I tried so many "fixes" that software is a hassle 🤣
I copied all of your settings with my 7700x. -30, 85 PPT. My tempratures maxed out at around 60.9 C with a score of 19060 in Cinebench 23. This score was around the same as it was when I started. Wattage was at 87. Idle is around 41 C. It looks like I got a good CPU! I have a Noctua DH-15 with MSO Pro B650-P Wifi. This was quite easy to follow since your board is also MSI. It seems it's working very well for this configuration. Thanks for the video!!
I used your settings with some slight deviation like 90w instead of 85w and got my temps to max 68c. Amazing stuff thank you! Went down from 75 degrees after trying my hand at undervolting myself.
Thanks a lot for this mate. I managed to get much lower temperatures and power consumption while also gaining 1000 points in Cinebench with my 7600x. I guess I have a nice piece of silicon, I can run a negative 40 on the CPU completely stable. Thanks again, great job!
im guessing it depends on cpu? but since negative 30 is the max does going even further ike negative 40 even doing anything ? im possibly upgradeing to an AM5 build in the coming month to an 7800x3D afaik that only has an negative 30 as the "lowest" setting to go so is the 7600x possible to go even lower? also seen some saying they are going beyond -30 on a x3d cpu
@@n0ex Probably it's the BIOS which allows more than -30. I'm running ASUS TUF Gaming B650. And yes, of course, all depends on the CPU. Is it worth it going more than -30? I guess not. You would never notice apart from a few points in a benchmark. So consider -30 as a sweetspot.
@@mikesunboxing Yes. Because the 30 limit is from the 5800X3D. The 7th series can up to 50. But mostly not on all cores. My 7800X3D is working on Core1-8 between -38 and -20. (C1: -38, C2: -32, C3: -34, C4: -20, C5: -20, C6: -20, C7: -28, C8: -27. The PPT on 85, EDC 180, TDC 120, THM 85, FIT scalar 1, Max freq 5050. For my silicone the settings are stable :). For gaming you dont need all cores. The fact that Core 4-6 are working on -20 says: Sweetspot here is -20. But hey, 500 points more on Cinebench doesnt matter for gaming so -20 for all cores is great. I also tested it with 45W up to 100W. There are no big dif. between the Cinebench results. So for gamers with a small or stock cooler i would go with 65W. Best regards from Berlin! Great Video. Tool i used: Hydra 1.6B PRO (OC Sandbox).
Thank you for the video,before my cpu was reaching 77 degrees,and now with PBO is no passing than 65/70 and in CPU-Z i scored 7908 points,thank you again
Amazing results and with your tutorial looks straightforward to carry out! More efficiency, less power less heat lower running costs and i assume better longevity! Thanks for sharing Mike and Kath 🐈👍
Can i just say that this is a great tutorial and so refreshing to hear someone say " do it in the bios because you don't need extra apps" i followed your suggestions and OK I'm not running a hot CPU , just a little old 5600g , i know i know but it does what i want , and the temperatures have plummeted and adding to that the energy has dropped too so Thank You
Omg this helped me so much. With only the -30 setting at first temps went from ~88•C to 67•C and clock speed has gone up to 5470Mhz on all cores❤ Idle is now at 38•C
I’m pretty amazed how well Curve Optimiser worked.. here my results with Cinebench r23 on my 7600x. Stock: score 15025, 82,4 celsius, pulling 94,3W. With CO - per core: Score 15848, 67,2 celsius, pulling now 72,2W. More then 20% of power reduction and 15 degrees cooler!
This video👍👍👍! My exact cpu and mobo couldnt have asked for more. Reduced temps significantly. I was pinned at 95 and thermal throttled with a Noctua NHD15!
Very helpful, have had my 7600x for almost 2 years and my GPU died since then ive been monitoring temps, not only did I gain fps in some games, cpu is cooler and it feels alot stable aswell.
Very useful video, thank you I went through the whole process of replacing my CPU cooler before finding information recommending undervolting and this video was exactly what I needed to solve my issue
Very good tutorial! Thank you! 7600x with pure rock 2 in micro case here. On stock bios settings: termal throtlling after 2 seconds in r23 with score 14464. After setting negative curve on 30 and PPT on 88w: after 10min in r23 max temp is 74 celcius and score 14366 🤩
That score seems rather low? Or my 7600x is better binned but on r23 I'm getting 16k points while never exceeding 70c Celcius (deepcool ls720 360 aio) currently still messing around with my curve optimiser but all my cores are stable on -40 sofar with the exception of core 1 only reaching -35
Thanks for this good and informative video. I could not boot my system on negative 30 anymore, but 20 combined with the other settings are working fine. My CPU temps dropped from max 88 degrees to 68 and consumes much less power now.
Excellent video, Mike! I'm on Alder Lake but I still like to learn. By the way, what about Eco Mode? Here is another "thank you" from North Carolina. After a recent Windows 11 update my PC stopped putting my monitor on standby and therefore no longer shut off my USB-powered monitor and microphone lights. One of your motherboard videos - it was Gigabyte and I'm using MSI - showed me how the ErP motherboard setting was the problem. I have no idea why a Windows update would have affected that setting but I'm pretty sure I didn't change it. I'd checked everything under the sun - except that! This is the fourth time your channel has solved a PC problem for me! Thanks again!
Thank you so much, I built this pc 2 days ago and playing Fortnite my cpu was hitting 93c, hitting that temp concerns me set to 30 and 85 limit the hottest it got is 79c. That’s around where my i7 used to run while gaming, spent $1300 building this and I want it to last. What I built r7 7700x / 7800xt 16g gpu / 32g ddr5 6000mhz / msi650 motherboard with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth / 850 watt gold psu / deep cool cooler at 62 cfm / deep cool case / crucial 2tb m.s2 and put a 500g m.2 WD blue I had laying around. Very stocked with what I built and I know they say these processors run hot but I want longevity out of this system and feel I can achieve this with cooler temps. Thanks again !
Hey Mike! recently upgraded to the same processor (7600x) and was worried about the voltages and temperatures being uncomfortably high. Found your video, used your settings and went from 95-96 °C roughly 75 °C and slightly higher performance! Thank you so much!
I'm using Ryzen 5 7500f and I did this with a lil bit of extra.. Apparently by using Ryzen Master's built-in CO optimization you can get the precise CO of the CPU, it took almost an hour to optimize and I got -46 all cores CO. Then I just manually applied it on Bios; CO: -46 PPT: 85 Watts Thermal Throttle Limit: 85 So far no crashes experienced on any tasks.. Cinebench24 multi-core is 828 Max temp now is 58-60c, I'm using Arctic Freezer III 360 (before tweaking it's reaching 80-90c) Core clocks at 5,045-5,055 MHz I did try to lower the PPT to 77 and 65 watts But 65 resulted to a lower clock speed (4.7 - 4.8 MHz) And 77 watts is almost the same as 85 watts ppt, just 3 points lower on CB24
Thanks Mike, managed to do it following you. Although I still do not know what the PBO enhancements do , I have to assume that they are something to do with temperature as they are graded 90.80 and 70 each with 5 increments. Again thanks for your help to a79yr old.
Thanks for a very informative video Mike 🥰💪👍😇. I’m currently putting together an AM5 system (most parts purchased except cpu) and contemplating the 7700x or the 7800X3D for a gaming setup 🤔. These settings will prove very handy for my build. Cheers 🍻 buddy 🥳
I set my 7950's per core undervolts using CoreCycler to test until I found the most consistent stable boost speeds. It took a full day, but it was worth it. Temp limit is set to 89°C. The CPU runs nice and cool under load on a Dark Rock Pro 4 air cooler.
With the help of the video and some comments from our friends, I came to the following result: Ryzen 5 7600 non-X @5.35GHz - CinebenchR23 15090 (MC) and 1934 (SC) - CPU-z 6148 (MC) and 745 (SC) - Max temp 80.3 ºC, room temperature 25 ºC PBO2 - PPT: 88W - TDC: 80A - EDC: 120A - CPU Boost Clock Override: +200Mhz - PTTL: 85 ºC - Curve optimizer: Negative 50 MB: B650M Mortar WIFI (AGESA ComboAM5PI 1.0.9.0) Cooler: Thermaright SI-100 Black (Low Profile)
I set my own 7950x with Corsair H150i 360 AIORAD to: Curve Optimizer Negative 25 Platform Thermal Throttle Limit: 80 (Celcius) (in milliwatts aka 1000x1w) PPT 140000 TDC 110000 EDC 170000 Only some stress testing and time.... will tell.. if I got them right.
@@PushCashTTV For the ram, or the CPU? I found an easier way to underclock the CPU, at least on my Gigabyte AORUS Elite AX Motherboard... on the main Advanced Settings menu, there is a setting you can pull down (I believe it's called Active OC Tuner the 4th item down on Advanced Settings page) to set it to 90C Level 1, or 80C Level 1, or 70C Level 1 (or Level 2, 3, 4, 5). The first number is the target max temp you don't want the CPU to exceed. The second number is by how many millivolts x10 you want to undervolt the CPU. Depending on your silicon lottery luck will determine how low you can undervolt your CPU before it will randomly crash on full load or not boot at all. In my case, Level 1 is stable. Level 2 was stable only until I put the CPU under full load. Level 3,4, and 5 my system would not boot at all. If you mean voltages for memory, there is a video i found on YT of someone who got 4 DIMMs to run at 6000mghz and screenshots of his voltage and timing settings, though I have not tried them with my 5200mghz ram. From memory training, my RAM is running at 4800Mghz after boot (while in BIOS it will run at a safe conservative 3600Mghz, but speeds up once booted out of UEFI bios)
In addition to all this, I always like to tweak windows' power plan / max processor state 99% in stead of 100% = MASSIVE drop in terms of temperatures (20-30°C less) and no difference in terms of performance
When you enable or put precision boost overdrive to advanced, is that basically msi's auto oc feature? Is that the same thing as game boost on the root menu? Also at the end when you changed ppt, is that the same thing basically as changing the "tdp profile" i think the name was, i saw you messing with it on the bios tutorial video, with the exception that through ppt you can change it manually more accuratelly, rather than choosing from profiles which were like 105/85 etc?
This was such a helpful video thanks Mike, sadly I couldn't reduce the power usage from the PBO limits on my bios because there's no auto setting for my TDC limit and EDC limit, on my gigabyte eagle b650 ax it's either they're all on onto or all on manual and I have no clue ehat value to set the EDC and TDC limits to :(
Im getting this setup hopefully next week, any of the tweaks you did in this video, is there a risk that hardware gets damaged in anyway tweaking those things? Also does the memory need any tweaking? Im getting 2x 16gb g.skill flare x5's.
I just assembled an 7800X3D system. My main concern is my 360 AIO making the noise of a jet engine when the Ryzen heats up. But during gaming the heat remains pretty constant and rarely hits 60c.
that is the trouble with modern CPUs they like to reach 95c where the previous generation where around 75c so the fan profiles you used to use and the ones baked into the bios from the factory haven't taken this into account so the fans think there is a major heat problem, when really there likely isn't
Absolutely worth doing it! I took a different approach and only did the `Config TDP` step, setting my R5 7600x to 65W, and also set the throttle to 85 as well. The results: 5,4GHz (sometimes 5,9GHz in some cores) with the maximum 66 degrees celsius on the package. Amazing! :)
@@cesardasilva892During Cinebench how much temp it goes upto?. I'm using Deepcool GAMMAX L-240 A RGB cooler, with that after setting Max temp to 85 it is reaching that point only.
@@itsdanielparker7116 before the TDP config, it reached 87 degrees celsius. After the TDP config, it reaches 66 on Cinebench full load. During my game sessions, it keeps on the 55 ~ 60 degrees celsius. You should consider the case airflow, your thermal paste and even the CPU cooler itself.
I got my 7900x down to 55w, 58c, all under max load. I only lost a very small bit of performance for doing so but it was worth it with the end results.
Very informative and useful video about overclocking and undervolting on amd chips.., and what a difference in power and watts.., amd clearly went a bit crazy with their default oc settings.., started to look like an intel cpu.. 🤣
Thanks a lot for the video. Just one last step that still confused me. When turn PBO limit to manual, i should also manually set value of TDC limit and EDC limit instead of auto like yours. What value should i set?
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Some of us with 7800x3D when we touch valius from there the PC don't post or boot at all. I wonder why is that, even a year after there is still problems. Mostly of the people have troubleshoot problems using EXPO with AMD or XMP with intel.
Can't tune on my Asus B650e-f bc Asus haven't got their drivers and things in order. They just recently fixed the compatibility of certain DDR5 to use EXPO. Right now I get BSOD if I adjust anything, even changing the temperature.
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I changed Precious boost overdrive (select advance) like u then i restarted my pc and precious boost overdrive is staying at auto and my pc is heating alot. My settings is not saving 😢help
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@@mikesunboxing I got fix. The problem is when I select fan speed for check or change in (device monitoring) bios the precious boost overdrive automatically goes to enable or sometimes auto. If I don't select fan speed for check in the bios this problem does not happen. I hope u understand the situation 🙏
I had to come back and do this all over again, tried running ryzen master in eco mode as a experiment and the pc wouldn’t boot, I have g-skill ddr5 6000mhz and I read in Reddit that that ram caused issues with others. Had to pull CMOS battery but I’m back up now and the pc see the 6000mhz ram again. Very frustrating though.
my R5 7500f exceeds 95 degrees and the settings you made only work in curve optimizer, other settings are not available in my bios. My motherboard: msi pro 620m-e can you help me?
Hola como estas? te comento cuando cambio la curve optimizer y le pongo negative en 30 o 20 al guardar los cambios me tira pantalla azul y este error " kmode exception not handled " tenes idea porque podrá ser? muchas gracias !!
My version of Cinebench, 2024, has GPU (system requirements) as the first benchmark option, and the numbers I generated with that are lower but relatively close to what he is getting in the video testing CPU ( Multi core), thenwhen I run CPU (multi core) the numbers are much lower, like 10% range, is this jus 7:51 t due ro updat since the video relesed?
i can wait to try this! i have a standard 7600. would the same still apply? im getting some slightly higher temps after new mobo install. im going to reapply thermal and combo it with this method
@@mikesunboxing i got some positive rsults. though i guess standard doesnt pull as as much as X to begin with. I have Radeon with an active auto overclock. is that counteracting this in any way?
What ended up happening? I have the same R5 7600(non x) and I want lower temps since it likes to run hot af. What values did you apply or what did you do?
@@adrian1881mw3 Ryzen master embeds itself into your system. I did all my adjustments from the bios, using RM as purely a monitoring tool. I unlocked the cpu boost to its minimum. set my PPT to 110 and Throttle Limit to 100. That way i stay in boost. And a per core Under volt of -35. I get rock solid stability and never touch 50 C. Once i was all set i uninstalled RM. Furmark stability run for a half hour. Real life game test for hours on end lol. No problems
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How are the auto tweaks towards cpu and memory optimization in this board and bios, any steps you should take to achieve them or does AM5 basically get the best results just enabling game boost on cpu and selecting seemingly best expo profile for the ddr? My goal is not to min max everything i can from the system, im happy if i can get something extra by tweaking or using some auto method without shortening the lifespan of the components.
it is similar but more flexible, the best option is to run in eco mode or 65w TDP limit, much cooler and less wasted power and still quite decent performance
expo 2 would be slower? and load line calibration is automatic on most boards, and if set wrong the system can be very unstable, that isn't a good idea to be showing that to people that might not have the knowledge or ability to recognise or remedy that problem
@@mikesunboxing Expo 2 sets the secondary timings. LLC stops vdroop. On my X470 after undervolting my 5800x, -30 on most cores but 1, ( -25) I needed to set LLC or I couldn't sustain 4.835 all core in cinebench. Undervolting my 7950x, again, have to use LLC. It's not going to give you extra power. It's just going to make sure that the power is there while under load.
Currently have all my cores on -45 (one on -40, and yes, values below -30 do get applied and further lower voltage. Works until -50 on my board), have max boost clock +200MHz and stock PBO limits of my 65W CPU. Stresstested THOROUGHLY. I get longer lifespan and waay more performance with (only) slightly lower temps as it still boosts until the power limit is reached.
@@mikesunboxing yeah, I was baffled at first too. Maybe silicon quality improved over time? I just recently bought my 7500F. Or maybe I'm extremely lucky haha But I really made sure and tested it with y-cruncher, prime95, CoreCycler (with prime avx2/avx512/sse and y-cruncher) and OCCT. All stress tests combined I have 50h of stress testing 😂 also, no clock stretching
Hi! I have a Tomahawk b650 wifi and a 7700x with an artic freezer III 240. stock I am on 92º and after undervolting to -25 on PBO I have the exact same temperatures. I have tried everything, including taking the AIO out and repasting the cpu... but always same result. Any idea?
Funny...I just did this about 4 days ago with Ryzen Master. It undervolted just about everything (PBO, EDC, etc) but still pushed my 5800X to 5.3Ghz on just simple software. I'm happy with 4.8 because I really don't want to shorten it's life just yet. I'm still on a ROG B450 Gaming and all things considered, there has to be a significant performance bump before I start rebuilding again.
Idle temp is what is bothering me with 7700x, under load temps are fine at like 60-65c. I really miss my 5600x that I would put in max voltage and desired clock and it would crush everything under 50c :
I tried the curve optimiser on my gigabyte x670 Altus elite ax with a negative 25 and it made no difference to temps or boost clock whatsoever. It seems gigabyte is not so straightforward, probably going to have to use Ryzen master and leave it running instead ☹️
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Hey Mike, so my motherboard doesnt show the wattage in PPT. When i click on manual it says 14000. What am i supposed to do if i wanna run the same watts as you?
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Friend, I know very little about the BIOS, I have a 7600X and I want to undervolt it, but I see in other places that other parameters are changed in the BIOS and I just didn't do it because it's not the same as MSI's I wanted to know what I can do to have lower temperatures of my processor in a safe way, thanks!
30 passes validation for me and boots up when set in the bios but core #5 will fail prime small ffts after a few minutes for me. 7800x3d and Asus x670e-plus-wifi....I was able to run for an hour at -20 and play a couple hours of CoD so I think I am good there. Clock speed is right around 4600mhz so not full boost but I guess it's ok.
Unfortunately on my 7600 power limit just doesn’t drop to the specified one. Generally used power was around 97-98W but when I set PPT in BIOS to use 80W it still uses 97-98W regardless. I also have offset set to -20 but still no luck on dropping temperatures:(
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Also i think with over 20*c Difference in temps from a Delided Ryzen 5 7600x that its well worth it and the risk of damaging chip would never see more than 75% no matter the loads
@@mikesunboxing I followed a manual setting video of amd ryzen master, by doing -20 and increasing clock speed to 4.5 my temps are now 65-70 and fps also increased (update)
TY for these tips my c23 score went from approx 14600 to 15200 for my 7600X just by doing the curve optimiser. Im stuck with integrated graphics right now so i wanna overclock it, do you know where in bios the igpu settings are usually located? (im using asrock b650)
The Ryzen Master Software suggested -60 for the curve optimization of my 7600, no matter if I select the optimization for each single core or for all cores. I tried the settings and so far it runs stable with an overclock of „+200“, resulting in about 5,35GHz under load. But I‘m wondering how I can adjust the curve by -60, when the limit should be -30?
I have 5 7600, i set -30 curve, 85 temp limit and 85 power limit, boost +100 and cinebench showing 13186 score, while other have 14-15k with the same settings. Max temp is 70 C. What’s the problem? Am i missing something?
Hi, thanks for the awesome video. I was wondering why I have a lower score than you on Cinebench. I have 7600x with 280 AIO in NR200P Max. I'm getting only ~14800 stock than after doing the settings and mine are -20, 85w, PTTL 80°F temps and wattage definitely went down from 94 to 79 max and 106W to 87W with cores being 61W. Cinebench score after was ~14400. Any idea whats going on?
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So i got the same cpu as in the video, B650 tomahawk wifi motherboard .I was having concerns with the temperature and figured id try this out. Did the first step exactly as shown and now windows is in a constant repair cycle. I'm thinking i should probably have read up on it a bit more now. But I'm wondering what are the steps to take before trying something like this? Does this usually happen?
I just built a system with the 7600 (non-X) and I am using the same MSI Mag B650 board shown in the video. I went with the 7600 in the hopes that the base 65w will give me a cooler experience. My PC lives under my desk next to my leg, so I want to keep the temps down. I simply set my PBO to " Thermal Point 65" and did nothing else. So far in my tests, the proc idles around 45c and never goes above 65c during even a full cpu stress test. All of my benchmark scores actually went up or stayed the close to the same on Cinebench, Furmark, Blender and Super Position. The went down in Unigine Valley (5170 down to 4485) and Heaven (3170 to 3080). Is it fine to only set the PBO to "Thermal Point 65", so long as I am happy with it, or are there other settings I should be changing?
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Thank you so much for this, used your same exact settings on my own 7600X: went from 14364 cinebench score with ~96 °C and 135 W package power to 14756 score with 70 °C and 87 W max! Insane.
That is a great result nice one
????????????????????????? 96*C ? buy new cooler mate mine after 10h in game have have max 67
This is expected results for am5 they have a target of 95c by design
@@nokelo4207does 360 aio is enough for 7600x to get temp under 75 ?
@@Crenzy-ct9tt I would start with undervolting it as in the video.., the chips clearly use way too much watts and power for their overclocked
speeds by default..
Ryzen 5 7600X & 240mm AIO Went from idle 45°c avg 70-85°c max 95°c to idle 38°c avg 50-60°c max 62°, clockspeeds up to 5.5Ghz by copying these settings, amazing video!
that is a great result
thank you sir, i had issues with my temps and most importantly sound and power of my ak620 fans with my 7600x, i lower the curve to 30, with a limit temperature of 80 with auto setting in tdp, and now is running really smooth
and my pc crashes if i put co to over -10
For anyone interested in easy testing AMD's Ryzen Master software has in-built tests able to determine the suggested per-core negative curve optimized max safe setting each core is capable of for under-volting, which can then be inputted to the BIOS as Mike showed in this helpful vid.
thanks Ron absolutely right on the money there
@@mikesunboxing Every time I run it, all the cores result in a -30 offset on per-core in RM auto tuner.
I have the ASUS motherboard and it would give me BSOD every time I adjust anything. ASUS are so slow to fixing these things through updates. I'm running power saver at the moment until I can undervolt my CPU.
Ryzen master always sets my cores way too low which is barely stable to boot windows but crashs at any heavy task.
I couldn't ever get ryzen master to work, everytime I run it, it says it needs to be reinstalled everytime, I tried so many "fixes" that software is a hassle 🤣
I copied all of your settings with my 7700x. -30, 85 PPT. My tempratures maxed out at around 60.9 C with a score of 19060 in Cinebench 23. This score was around the same as it was when I started. Wattage was at 87. Idle is around 41 C. It looks like I got a good CPU! I have a Noctua DH-15 with MSO Pro B650-P Wifi. This was quite easy to follow since your board is also MSI. It seems it's working very well for this configuration. Thanks for the video!!
glad it helped you with your setup
impressive drops, what sort of wattage do you get when the system is in idle in windows doing nothing?
Can use CO -30, 85 PPT together?
when i use this setting my score drops from 19000 to 18000 and i don’t get why. i notice that the boost doesn’t go past 4.4 mhz
Is still working well? I have the same 7700x and MSI B650M gaming plus wifi.
I used your settings with some slight deviation like 90w instead of 85w and got my temps to max 68c. Amazing stuff thank you! Went down from 75 degrees after trying my hand at undervolting myself.
Nice work!
Thanks a lot for this mate.
I managed to get much lower temperatures and power consumption while also gaining 1000 points in Cinebench with my 7600x.
I guess I have a nice piece of silicon, I can run a negative 40 on the CPU completely stable.
Thanks again, great job!
Nice work!
im guessing it depends on cpu? but since negative 30 is the max does going even further ike negative 40 even doing anything ? im possibly upgradeing to an AM5 build in the coming month to an 7800x3D afaik that only has an negative 30 as the "lowest" setting to go so is the 7600x possible to go even lower? also seen some saying they are going beyond -30 on a x3d cpu
@@n0ex Probably it's the BIOS which allows more than -30. I'm running ASUS TUF Gaming B650.
And yes, of course, all depends on the CPU.
Is it worth it going more than -30?
I guess not. You would never notice apart from a few points in a benchmark.
So consider -30 as a sweetspot.
@@mikesunboxing Yes. Because the 30 limit is from the 5800X3D. The 7th series can up to 50. But mostly not on all cores. My 7800X3D is working on Core1-8 between -38 and -20. (C1: -38, C2: -32, C3: -34, C4: -20, C5: -20, C6: -20, C7: -28, C8: -27. The PPT on 85, EDC 180, TDC 120, THM 85, FIT scalar 1, Max freq 5050. For my silicone the settings are stable :). For gaming you dont need all cores. The fact that Core 4-6 are working on -20 says: Sweetspot here is -20. But hey, 500 points more on Cinebench doesnt matter for gaming so -20 for all cores is great. I also tested it with 45W up to 100W. There are no big dif. between the Cinebench results. So for gamers with a small or stock cooler i would go with 65W. Best regards from Berlin! Great Video. Tool i used: Hydra 1.6B PRO (OC Sandbox).
With PBO and your tuning suggestions I made my ryzen a lot more cooler! Thank you so much!
glad it helped
Thank you for the video,before my cpu was reaching 77 degrees,and now with PBO is no passing than 65/70 and in CPU-Z i scored 7908 points,thank you again
Glad it helped
Amazing results and with your tutorial looks straightforward to carry out! More efficiency, less power less heat lower running costs and i assume better longevity! Thanks for sharing Mike and Kath 🐈👍
thanks Nick, have a great day
Can i just say that this is a great tutorial and so refreshing to hear someone say " do it in the bios because you don't need extra apps" i followed your suggestions and OK I'm not running a hot CPU , just a little old 5600g , i know i know but it does what i want , and the temperatures have plummeted and adding to that the energy has dropped too so Thank You
Glad it helped!
Omg this helped me so much. With only the -30 setting at first temps went from ~88•C to 67•C and clock speed has gone up to 5470Mhz on all cores❤
Idle is now at 38•C
that worked out well then!
I’m pretty amazed how well Curve Optimiser worked.. here my results with Cinebench r23 on my 7600x.
Stock:
score 15025, 82,4 celsius, pulling 94,3W.
With CO - per core:
Score 15848, 67,2 celsius, pulling now 72,2W.
More then 20% of power reduction and 15 degrees cooler!
sounds good to me
This video👍👍👍! My exact cpu and mobo couldnt have asked for more. Reduced temps significantly. I was pinned at 95 and thermal throttled with a Noctua NHD15!
Glad it helped
Very helpful, have had my 7600x for almost 2 years and my GPU died since then ive been monitoring temps, not only did I gain fps in some games, cpu is cooler and it feels alot stable aswell.
Very useful video, thank you
I went through the whole process of replacing my CPU cooler before finding information recommending undervolting and this video was exactly what I needed to solve my issue
That is great news, glad it was helpful
Same bios and same cpu as me so this was a perfect tutorial, down from 95c to 70c with a 240mm rad, thanks man.
nice results
Very good tutorial! Thank you! 7600x with pure rock 2 in micro case here. On stock bios settings: termal throtlling after 2 seconds in r23 with score 14464. After setting negative curve on 30 and PPT on 88w: after 10min in r23 max temp is 74 celcius and score 14366 🤩
Nice work!
That score seems rather low? Or my 7600x is better binned but on r23 I'm getting 16k points while never exceeding 70c Celcius (deepcool ls720 360 aio) currently still messing around with my curve optimiser but all my cores are stable on -40 sofar with the exception of core 1 only reaching -35
Thanks for this good and informative video. I could not boot my system on negative 30 anymore, but 20 combined with the other settings are working fine. My CPU temps dropped from max 88 degrees to 68 and consumes much less power now.
glad it helped
Excellent video, Mike! I'm on Alder Lake but I still like to learn. By the way, what about Eco Mode? Here is another "thank you" from North Carolina. After a recent Windows 11 update my PC stopped putting my monitor on standby and therefore no longer shut off my USB-powered monitor and microphone lights. One of your motherboard videos - it was Gigabyte and I'm using MSI - showed me how the ErP motherboard setting was the problem. I have no idea why a Windows update would have affected that setting but I'm pretty sure I didn't change it. I'd checked everything under the sun - except that! This is the fourth time your channel has solved a PC problem for me! Thanks again!
awesome glad to know that these videos are helpful
You're the best my ryzen now works smooth, no drops no crashes. You're deserves 7800X3D for that.
lol thanks
Thank you so much, I built this pc 2 days ago and playing Fortnite my cpu was hitting 93c, hitting that temp concerns me set to 30 and 85 limit the hottest it got is 79c. That’s around where my i7 used to run while gaming, spent $1300 building this and I want it to last. What I built r7 7700x / 7800xt 16g gpu / 32g ddr5 6000mhz / msi650 motherboard with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth / 850 watt gold psu / deep cool cooler at 62 cfm / deep cool case / crucial 2tb m.s2 and put a 500g m.2 WD blue I had laying around. Very stocked with what I built and I know they say these processors run hot but I want longevity out of this system and feel I can achieve this with cooler temps. Thanks again !
glad to know that we helped someone out
Man you are my hero! That almost burn my CPU and now is perfect!
Hey Mike! recently upgraded to the same processor (7600x) and was worried about the voltages and temperatures being uncomfortably high. Found your video, used your settings and went from 95-96 °C roughly 75 °C and slightly higher performance! Thank you so much!
glad it helped, and lower temps are always welcome
Thank you so much! Awesome tutorial man you are truly a godsend
thanks for the kind words
I'm using Ryzen 5 7500f and I did this with a lil bit of extra.. Apparently by using Ryzen Master's built-in CO optimization you can get the precise CO of the CPU, it took almost an hour to optimize and I got -46 all cores CO. Then I just manually applied it on Bios;
CO: -46
PPT: 85 Watts
Thermal Throttle Limit: 85
So far no crashes experienced on any tasks..
Cinebench24 multi-core is 828
Max temp now is 58-60c, I'm using Arctic Freezer III 360 (before tweaking it's reaching 80-90c)
Core clocks at 5,045-5,055 MHz
I did try to lower the PPT to 77 and 65 watts
But 65 resulted to a lower clock speed (4.7 - 4.8 MHz)
And 77 watts is almost the same as 85 watts ppt, just 3 points lower on CB24
my go to video each time I get a bios update.
thanks jeffrey
Thanks Mike, managed to do it following you. Although I still do not know what the PBO enhancements do , I have to assume that they are something to do with temperature as they are graded 90.80 and 70 each with 5 increments. Again thanks for your help to a79yr old.
Glad it helped and welcome to the channel, you are almost as young as Colin Hilton, he is a year older
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You had me at "another piece of software I don't have to install" 🤩
Great settings! For me 105W, -20 curve, 88 degree 🎉🎉
Very nice!
Thanks for a very informative video Mike 🥰💪👍😇. I’m currently putting together an AM5 system (most parts purchased except cpu) and contemplating the 7700x or the 7800X3D for a gaming setup 🤔. These settings will prove very handy for my build. Cheers 🍻 buddy 🥳
Sounds great! i would go with the 7700x at the moment, i just picked one up to repalce the 7600x and cost me an extra £40
Cool , great video thanks Mike.
Glad you enjoyed it
I set my 7950's per core undervolts using CoreCycler to test until I found the most consistent stable boost speeds. It took a full day, but it was worth it. Temp limit is set to 89°C. The CPU runs nice and cool under load on a Dark Rock Pro 4 air cooler.
Thanks for sharing
With the help of the video and some comments from our friends, I came to the following result:
Ryzen 5 7600 non-X @5.35GHz
- CinebenchR23 15090 (MC) and 1934 (SC)
- CPU-z 6148 (MC) and 745 (SC)
- Max temp 80.3 ºC, room temperature 25 ºC
PBO2
- PPT: 88W
- TDC: 80A
- EDC: 120A
- CPU Boost Clock Override: +200Mhz
- PTTL: 85 ºC
- Curve optimizer: Negative 50
MB: B650M Mortar WIFI (AGESA ComboAM5PI 1.0.9.0)
Cooler: Thermaright SI-100 Black (Low Profile)
nice work
thank you I knocked off 10c without losing anything performance-wise
Thank you learned from this!
Glad it was helpful!
I set my own 7950x with Corsair H150i 360 AIORAD to:
Curve Optimizer Negative 25
Platform Thermal Throttle Limit: 80 (Celcius)
(in milliwatts aka 1000x1w) PPT 140000 TDC 110000 EDC 170000
Only some stress testing and time.... will tell.. if I got them right.
hope it stays stable for you
Hi, did you find the right voltages?
@@PushCashTTV For the ram, or the CPU?
I found an easier way to underclock the CPU, at least on my Gigabyte AORUS Elite AX Motherboard... on the main Advanced Settings menu, there is a setting you can pull down (I believe it's called Active OC Tuner the 4th item down on Advanced Settings page) to set it to 90C Level 1, or 80C Level 1, or 70C Level 1 (or Level 2, 3, 4, 5). The first number is the target max temp you don't want the CPU to exceed. The second number is by how many millivolts x10 you want to undervolt the CPU.
Depending on your silicon lottery luck will determine how low you can undervolt your CPU before it will randomly crash on full load or not boot at all. In my case, Level 1 is stable. Level 2 was stable only until I put the CPU under full load. Level 3,4, and 5 my system would not boot at all.
If you mean voltages for memory, there is a video i found on YT of someone who got 4 DIMMs to run at 6000mghz and screenshots of his voltage and timing settings, though I have not tried them with my 5200mghz ram. From memory training, my RAM is running at 4800Mghz after boot (while in BIOS it will run at a safe conservative 3600Mghz, but speeds up once booted out of UEFI bios)
Went from 95.4C° 14599 Points to 74.3C° 14793 Points, Thank you so much!
that is a pretty good result
2 of ur vids were very helpful. I subbed now
Thanks for the sub!
I swear its just MAGIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In addition to all this, I always like to tweak windows' power plan / max processor state 99% in stead of 100% = MASSIVE drop in terms of temperatures (20-30°C less) and no difference in terms of performance
i need to try that!
When you enable or put precision boost overdrive to advanced, is that basically msi's auto oc feature? Is that the same thing as game boost on the root menu?
Also at the end when you changed ppt, is that the same thing basically as changing the "tdp profile" i think the name was, i saw you messing with it on the bios tutorial video, with the exception that through ppt you can change it manually more accuratelly, rather than choosing from profiles which were like 105/85 etc?
msi gaming mode is a rather raw and power hungry way to increase clock speeds at the same time much more heat, i avoid it if possible
This was such a helpful video thanks Mike, sadly I couldn't reduce the power usage from the PBO limits on my bios because there's no auto setting for my TDC limit and EDC limit, on my gigabyte eagle b650 ax it's either they're all on onto or all on manual and I have no clue ehat value to set the EDC and TDC limits to :(
Im getting this setup hopefully next week, any of the tweaks you did in this video, is there a risk that hardware gets damaged in anyway tweaking those things? Also does the memory need any tweaking? Im getting 2x 16gb g.skill flare x5's.
the worst that can happen with undervolting is crashing or instability
I just assembled an 7800X3D system. My main concern is my 360 AIO making the noise of a jet engine when the Ryzen heats up. But during gaming the heat remains pretty constant and rarely hits 60c.
that is the trouble with modern CPUs they like to reach 95c where the previous generation where around 75c so the fan profiles you used to use and the ones baked into the bios from the factory haven't taken this into account so the fans think there is a major heat problem, when really there likely isn't
Thanks for a very informative video for me :)
My pleasure 😊
Absolutely worth doing it!
I took a different approach and only did the `Config TDP` step, setting my R5 7600x to 65W, and also set the throttle to 85 as well.
The results: 5,4GHz (sometimes 5,9GHz in some cores) with the maximum 66 degrees celsius on the package. Amazing! :)
Which cpu cooler do you use
@@nhacspicy6444 I'm using a Noctua NH-U12A. All that in a Lian Li 216 stock configuration
@@cesardasilva892During Cinebench how much temp it goes upto?.
I'm using Deepcool GAMMAX L-240 A RGB cooler, with that after setting Max temp to 85 it is reaching that point only.
Regarding Config TDP
@@itsdanielparker7116 before the TDP config, it reached 87 degrees celsius. After the TDP config, it reaches 66 on Cinebench full load. During my game sessions, it keeps on the 55 ~ 60 degrees celsius.
You should consider the case airflow, your thermal paste and even the CPU cooler itself.
18/12/2024 thank you soo much im using stock cooler with my ryzen 5 7500f ( no money left xd) temps drop from 85 to 77
I got my 7900x down to 55w, 58c, all under max load. I only lost a very small bit of performance for doing so but it was worth it with the end results.
that is flipping amazing
Very informative and useful video about overclocking and undervolting on amd chips.., and what a difference in power and watts.., amd clearly went a bit crazy with their default oc settings.., started to look like an intel cpu.. 🤣
Glad you liked it
Thanks a lot for the video. Just one last step that still confused me. When turn PBO limit to manual, i should also manually set value of TDC limit and EDC limit instead of auto like yours. What value should i set?
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Some of us with 7800x3D when we touch valius from there the PC don't post or boot at all.
I wonder why is that, even a year after there is still problems. Mostly of the people have troubleshoot problems using EXPO with AMD or XMP with intel.
bios updates help a lot if you keep those up to date you should be fine
Can't tune on my Asus B650e-f bc Asus haven't got their drivers and things in order. They just recently fixed the compatibility of certain DDR5 to use EXPO. Right now I get BSOD if I adjust anything, even changing the temperature.
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I changed Precious boost overdrive (select advance) like u then i restarted my pc and precious boost overdrive is staying at auto and my pc is heating alot. My settings is not saving 😢help
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@@mikesunboxing I got fix. The problem is when I select fan speed for check or change in (device monitoring) bios the precious boost overdrive automatically goes to enable or sometimes auto. If I don't select fan speed for check in the bios this problem does not happen. I hope u understand the situation 🙏
I had to come back and do this all over again, tried running ryzen master in eco mode as a experiment and the pc wouldn’t boot, I have g-skill ddr5 6000mhz and I read in Reddit that that ram caused issues with others. Had to pull CMOS battery but I’m back up now and the pc see the 6000mhz ram again. Very frustrating though.
glad you got there in the end
@@mikesunboxingI went to 90 watts, not going over 67c when running cinebench, score is a few points lower but not hitting 95c.
my R5 7500f exceeds 95 degrees and the settings you made only work in curve optimizer, other settings are not available in my bios. My motherboard: msi pro 620m-e can you help me?
sounds like you cooler isn't mounted right, even stock it shouldnt hit that high of a temp
Hola como estas? te comento cuando cambio la curve optimizer y le pongo negative en 30 o 20 al guardar los cambios me tira pantalla azul y este error " kmode exception not handled " tenes idea porque podrá ser? muchas gracias !!
Underwatting is the way forward, just wish AMD made it a bit easier but Im sure that'll come in the near future. Thaaaaaaaaaaaaanks M+K 🙂
Fingers crossed! it really is easier to just enable eco mode and choose 65w but you do lose a chunk of performance as it stands at the moment
My version of Cinebench, 2024, has GPU (system requirements) as the first benchmark option, and the numbers I generated with that are lower but relatively close to what he is getting in the video testing CPU ( Multi core), thenwhen I run CPU (multi core) the numbers are much lower, like 10% range, is this jus 7:51 t due ro updat since the video relesed?
could be that
i can wait to try this! i have a standard 7600. would the same still apply? im getting some slightly higher temps after new mobo install. im going to reapply thermal and combo it with this method
worth trying it
@@mikesunboxing i got some positive rsults. though i guess standard doesnt pull as as much as X to begin with. I have Radeon with an active auto overclock. is that counteracting this in any way?
What ended up happening? I have the same R5 7600(non x) and I want lower temps since it likes to run hot af. What values did you apply or what did you do?
@@adrian1881mw3 Ryzen master embeds itself into your system. I did all my adjustments from the bios, using RM as purely a monitoring tool. I unlocked the cpu boost to its minimum. set my PPT to 110 and Throttle Limit to 100. That way i stay in boost. And a per core Under volt of -35. I get rock solid stability and never touch 50 C. Once i was all set i uninstalled RM. Furmark stability run for a half hour. Real life game test for hours on end lol. No problems
For me, even doing -30 PBO doesn't lower the temp, power consumption is always the same. It dropped about 20w on your CPU. I don't understand why. :/
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How are the auto tweaks towards cpu and memory optimization in this board and bios, any steps you should take to achieve them or does AM5 basically get the best results just enabling game boost on cpu and selecting seemingly best expo profile for the ddr? My goal is not to min max everything i can from the system, im happy if i can get something extra by tweaking or using some auto method without shortening the lifespan of the components.
it is similar but more flexible, the best option is to run in eco mode or 65w TDP limit, much cooler and less wasted power and still quite decent performance
I seen 2 flaws. First : you didn't go expo 2, second: when using curve optimizer, You didn't go for load line calibration.
expo 2 would be slower? and load line calibration is automatic on most boards, and if set wrong the system can be very unstable, that isn't a good idea to be showing that to people that might not have the knowledge or ability to recognise or remedy that problem
@@mikesunboxing Expo 2 sets the secondary timings. LLC stops vdroop. On my X470 after undervolting my 5800x, -30 on most cores but 1, ( -25) I needed to set LLC or I couldn't sustain 4.835 all core in cinebench.
Undervolting my 7950x, again, have to use LLC.
It's not going to give you extra power. It's just going to make sure that the power is there while under load.
Thank you so much 😊
You're welcome 😊
Currently have all my cores on -45 (one on -40, and yes, values below -30 do get applied and further lower voltage. Works until -50 on my board), have max boost clock +200MHz and stock PBO limits of my 65W CPU. Stresstested THOROUGHLY.
I get longer lifespan and waay more performance with (only) slightly lower temps as it still boosts until the power limit is reached.
those are some pretty impressive numbers there
@@mikesunboxing yeah, I was baffled at first too. Maybe silicon quality improved over time? I just recently bought my 7500F. Or maybe I'm extremely lucky haha
But I really made sure and tested it with y-cruncher, prime95, CoreCycler (with prime avx2/avx512/sse and y-cruncher) and OCCT. All stress tests combined I have 50h of stress testing 😂 also, no clock stretching
Hi!
I have a Tomahawk b650 wifi and a 7700x with an artic freezer III 240.
stock I am on 92º and after undervolting to -25 on PBO I have the exact same temperatures.
I have tried everything, including taking the AIO out and repasting the cpu... but always same result.
Any idea?
sounds like the pump isn't running fast enough, use the included splitter to have the pump on itsa own AIO channel
@@mikesunboxing I have it like that since day 0. Is it possible to set the speed of the pump to full? I think I haven't seen it.
my msi board har many options for my 7600x, i set it to enhanced mode 4, runs 80degrees and 5.5ghz. insane
Can you give me a social media site where I can reach you?
Very informative video! What is the best settings for Ryzen 7700 non x variant? exp; PPT/TDC/EDC limit. Thanks.
just set to a -30 factor undervolt in the curve optimiser and that should be enough
Funny...I just did this about 4 days ago with Ryzen Master. It undervolted just about everything (PBO, EDC, etc) but still pushed my 5800X to 5.3Ghz on just simple software. I'm happy with 4.8 because I really don't want to shorten it's life just yet. I'm still on a ROG B450 Gaming and all things considered, there has to be a significant performance bump before I start rebuilding again.
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thank you very much
Idle temp is what is bothering me with 7700x, under load temps are fine at like 60-65c. I really miss my 5600x that I would put in max voltage and desired clock and it would crush everything under 50c :
what are your idle temps?
@@mikesunboxing 43-45 with Noctua NH-D15s. Sometimes drops to 39.
I tried the curve optimiser on my gigabyte x670 Altus elite ax with a negative 25 and it made no difference to temps or boost clock whatsoever. It seems gigabyte is not so straightforward, probably going to have to use Ryzen master and leave it running instead ☹️
that is strange, it should have made some difference? not tried many gigabyte board on AM5 yet so i can't be 100%
This doesn’t work for me, I’ve tried it going from 30 down to 10 and it wouldn’t boot, now I am stuck just in windows 11 boot loop…. 😢
something very odd going on there. reset the CMOS to factory defaults
@@mikesunboxing thanks I will give that a try, I assume it’s better to update bios after before I try again or should I do it at default bios first?
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Hey Mike, so my motherboard doesnt show the wattage in PPT. When i click on manual it says 14000. What am i supposed to do if i wanna run the same watts as you?
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Friend, I know very little about the BIOS, I have a 7600X and I want to undervolt it, but I see in other places that other parameters are changed in the BIOS and I just didn't do it because it's not the same as MSI's
I wanted to know what I can do to have lower temperatures of my processor in a safe way, thanks!
easiest way is to set the TDP to 65w and you will still get great performance
30 passes validation for me and boots up when set in the bios but core #5 will fail prime small ffts after a few minutes for me. 7800x3d and Asus x670e-plus-wifi....I was able to run for an hour at -20 and play a couple hours of CoD so I think I am good there. Clock speed is right around 4600mhz so not full boost but I guess it's ok.
Why in my Msi B650 gaming plus with ultimate bios E7E26AMS.1A0 at -30 all core i have voltage cpu in stress cynebench 23 up 1.35 volt ?
not sure why that is, maybe it is happy to go that high and would have been much more.
Unfortunately on my 7600 power limit just doesn’t drop to the specified one. Generally used power was around 97-98W but when I set PPT in BIOS to use 80W it still uses 97-98W regardless. I also have offset set to -20 but still no luck on dropping temperatures:(
something a bit weird going on there, maybe go into curve optimiser and choose the eco mode option or 65w limit
@@mikesunboxing I’ll give this a go. Thank you
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Also i think with over 20*c Difference in temps from a Delided Ryzen 5 7600x that its well worth it and the risk of damaging chip
would never see more than 75% no matter the loads
Directly after changing these setting my pc wouldn’t boot up into windows 😢
reset the CMOS and you can start over
My pc tried to repair the issue and now it’s taking me back to the setup windows screen like when I installed windows for the first time 😟
My 7600x went into BSOD after setting it to -30 😢
Same here, Just reset CMOS
Unfortunately, my rig won't load Windows when doing these settings, I have to keep the defaults.
sorry to hear that
my r5 7600 doesnt want to go 70 or above when im playing cyberpunk ultra settings with ray and path tracing is that normal ??
sounds about right with a good cooler
Would using a Kraken elite 280 AIO or a TR Peerless Assassin 120SE air cooler be better for a Ryzen 7 7800X3D?
280 aio is likely to be lower temps but more expensive
@@mikesunboxing I have the 280 AIO already but I just worry as it’s mounted on the outside of my case due to the length of my gpu
I can’t set tdc and edc limit on auto if I set pbo limit on manual, I’ve a updated b650 msi pro.
Any solution?
no idea sorry, not sure what is going on there
Fantastic video, it worked wonders for my cpu temps. But is this going to have a large impact on gaming performance?
Probably not might even improve it
@@mikesunboxing Great! Thanks for the response!
I have ryzen 5 7600 (non x)
And I got a liquid cooler 360 cooler master . Still my cpu temps go to 80-85 playing dead space and such demanding games
something is wrong there i think, maybe check the mounting and also the pump speed
@@mikesunboxing I followed a manual setting video of amd ryzen master, by doing -20 and increasing clock speed to 4.5 my temps are now 65-70 and fps also increased (update)
Hi, when I do all this on my 7600X like yours, my glock speeds only go to 5ghz max unlike your 5.4ghz what might be the problem?
not sure could be a number of things really, like power and temps
TY for these tips my c23 score went from approx 14600 to 15200 for my 7600X just by doing the curve optimiser. Im stuck with integrated graphics right now so i wanna overclock it, do you know where in bios the igpu settings are usually located? (im using asrock b650)
nice!
The Ryzen Master Software suggested -60 for the curve optimization of my 7600, no matter if I select the optimization for each single core or for all cores. I tried the settings and so far it runs stable with an overclock of „+200“, resulting in about 5,35GHz under load. But I‘m wondering how I can adjust the curve by -60, when the limit should be -30?
ryzen master uses a different metric in the software than the bios, they don't relate directly to each other
@@mikesunboxing ok, but in the Bios of my Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX the values are the same: -60 ist the lowest I can go ...
for ryzen 5 7600x, with PPT on 85W, what should i put down for TDC and EDC as i dont have auto option. help please
www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/15648yh/ryzen_5_7600x/
I have 5 7600, i set -30 curve, 85 temp limit and 85 power limit, boost +100 and cinebench showing 13186 score, while other have 14-15k with the same settings. Max temp is 70 C. What’s the problem? Am i missing something?
you are probably using too little voltage try upping it a little
Hi, thanks for the awesome video. I was wondering why I have a lower score than you on Cinebench. I have 7600x with 280 AIO in NR200P Max. I'm getting only ~14800 stock than after doing the settings and mine are -20, 85w, PTTL 80°F temps and wattage definitely went down from 94 to 79 max and 106W to 87W with cores being 61W. Cinebench score after was ~14400. Any idea whats going on?
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Hi, Mike. Can I try the same settings on the 7600 non x? I don't have the advanced option on PBO with the latest bios update.
yeah sure give it a go
Should CPU Game boost be turned on? And what about A-xmp or EXPO?
yeah expo or xmp but never game boost it is awful
@@mikesunboxing which would be better EXPO OR A-XMP does it matter
So i got the same cpu as in the video, B650 tomahawk wifi motherboard .I was having concerns with the temperature and figured id try this out. Did the first step exactly as shown and now windows is in a constant repair cycle. I'm thinking i should probably have read up on it a bit more now. But I'm wondering what are the steps to take before trying something like this? Does this usually happen?
maybe just use the negative offset in the curve optimiser of 20 or maybe 30 if 20 is stable
I just built a system with the 7600 (non-X) and I am using the same MSI Mag B650 board shown in the video. I went with the 7600 in the hopes that the base 65w will give me a cooler experience. My PC lives under my desk next to my leg, so I want to keep the temps down. I simply set my PBO to " Thermal Point 65" and did nothing else. So far in my tests, the proc idles around 45c and never goes above 65c during even a full cpu stress test. All of my benchmark scores actually went up or stayed the close to the same on Cinebench, Furmark, Blender and Super Position. The went down in Unigine Valley (5170 down to 4485) and Heaven (3170 to 3080).
Is it fine to only set the PBO to "Thermal Point 65", so long as I am happy with it, or are there other settings I should be changing?
that is fine, that CPU won't normally go much over 80w anyway so you are in a good place there
when i use -25 curve optimizer my score goes down from 19000 to 18700 why? 7700x
not enough voltage? try -20
@@mikesunboxing shouldn’t higher negative offset result in higher performance /clock speeds?