After ten years of not paying a single dime on a power or water bill, I went from living the hard life on just 600 watts of solar for that duration to having done a 10,000 Watt, self-installed solar array on my barn roof with 35 kilowatt hours in lifepo4, plus four Honda EU3000IS inverter generators as backup to secure me for at least the next ten years. I gave my neighbor who is grid connected, a Bluetti AC200P, three brand new rigid 330W panels plus a Honda generator to get him started. The guy is ecstatic and very eager to get into the game. Oh and by the way, I began my off-grid endeavor with several 55 gallon lidded containers collecting rainwater to survive, that has been updated to a self-installed 5,000 gallon rainwater filtration system. Tomorrow is officially my ten-year off grid anniversary celebration and its a great feeling! I did my math and we're on the winning team.
That is awesome. Congratulations on your 10 yr anniversary of success, and very nice of you to help your neighbor! I'm looking at a starter setup like that as well, just maybe a wen generator for affordability. I only have one 400w panel fr Anker and a 200w panel & ep70 from bluettie. I'd like a battery bank to handle just power outage basics (like maybe 6,500kwh) but also use solar to cut daily electric bill. Lots to learn and then keep it simple!
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This is what people should be looking at. The whole on grid is easily replaceable with a solar panel and battery setup. When you really look at how much energy you draw a day it’s for most people (not USA with their giant houses) it’s about 5kw a day.
Only they don’t sell this delta ultra or the delta 3 outside of USA. Which is 💩 We over here in eu and uk would just on these setups faster than those in the USA I’d say. They just need to release the good products rather than the old ones.
That generator is in the $6,000+ range! I noticed, at your 49% battery remaining, with very low power consumption (1,520 W), there was only 1 hour and 47 minutes remaining. One extra battery is around $3,600. That would still only be 8 hours of battery life, starting full, with 2 batteries and the equivalent of one hair dryer running. NOTE: I have experienced a loss of utility power for over a week in freezing temperatures. During that time, the cloud cover was so dark and thick, no solar panels would charge anything. The cost of that Delta Pro Utra is extremely high. I would need walls of batteries and still they wouldn't last a week. Granted, I typically use 30-200 Kwh per day. I've already purchased a Generac 22 KW generator which supplies much more power than I need and it needs no wall of batteries, or the sun. I did purchase the panel to auto-switch in a power failure, as welll as auto-switch back when power returns. The total cost for my whole-house backup system was just under $11,000 and I needed trenches dug because my generator needed to be away from the house. Could be a lot less for others if there is a nice spot available next to the house that meets code. NOTE: I've alreay experienced multiple power outages and the Generac worked flawlessly every time. Also, for minimal cost, I installed the emporia energy monitor (something like $165) which allows me to monitor total power usage and I can view power usage down to every circuit breaker. Very nice to locate the devices actually drawing all the electricity and mimimize/optimize usage. Also, I added a whole home surge protector (Siemens FS140 - $225) so energy spikes from lightning don't damage my equipment. Prior to installing it, I previously lost a heat pump, regrigerator, desktop computer, and a TV (different power events). After installing it years ago, not one loss of any equipment and i'm positive I was hit with spikes that would have damaged equipment without it, on multiple occassions. So, for me, that Delta Pro Utra is amazing, but the cost is just NOT practicle at all.
Battery back up is just BS. You can get a gas powered solution for a tenth of the price. OVER RATED. ps I own 6 of them for various purposes and would NEVER consider one for a real home backup unless I was going to spend $10k plus instead of a $1000 generator that doesn't crap the bed when it is cloudy. I hate how people hype these stupid 3 or 4 hour back up solutions like they are the second coming... so disingenuous.
Agreed. The only reason I would consider it is just to run lights and non-appliance outlets during said emergencies. Otherwise, I bought a 10K gasoline/propane generator ($900) and some ($300ish?) electrical supplies (suicide plug) to manually hook up my house for extended power outages. small UPS units are reasonable otherwise.
I had an electrician do a generator transfer panel in my house. It was not terribly expensive. It was the best money I ever spent I’d love to use this battery on my system. I have everything in my house except my oven and washer and dryer on my transfer panel. I have multiple sump pumps I need to keep going during an outage. I love this battery.
We had one too and loved it. We installed Tesla solar/powerwall and Tesla wanted it removed. The new Star Solar/powerwalls have the generator connection built in. It's the way to roll.
I’ve got a dual fuel generator that I’ll fire up for a temporary power supply and it cost me about 300$ eight years ago and works great! No electrician needed either!
Those make seriously dirty power and will eventually destroy things, especially delicate electronics. The best solution is to procure a legit charger that makes proper sine wave energy, that your generator can run. The best so fat that I know of is EG4's new'ish "Chargverter". It's adjustable for various amp loads and generator sizes. Increases your power many fold over your generator, and is clean power that won't damage your goods.👍
I have two portable 9000 watt duel fuel inverter generators that I run in parallel that will power anything in my home and pool except emergency/auxiliary heat. It will run my 5 ton heat pump, for AC, in the summer. $4500 for everything except my 10 propane bottles that I paid $1500 for. 200 gallons of propane was $600. I have four 1500 watt space heaters and a propane heater if needed. I also keep a half cord of firewood, on hand, in the winter. It takes a little time to set everything up but I usually have some of the equipment set up if I hear that a weather event is coming that could knock out power in the winter. I live in DFW and took February of 2021 as my warning. I had this plan of action ready for the following winter!
I forgot to mention that I put a soft start device on my heat pump that enables my generators to power the 5 ton heat pump. Thanks for the video! Mike in DFW
@@Nat_Sarim You can purchase a Westinghouse WGen12000DFc Dual fuel generator that has less than 5% THD. 12,000 running watts, 50 AMP connection to the home. $2,399. No problems running sensitive electronics and will power the entire home.
Starting to think ecoflow is sponsoring every yt creator lol. They look nice but at least here in France, where power is underground outages are such a rare occasion.
Until it's intentional, and it's coming. It's not a "conspiracy theory", it's in all their white papers. They are going to shut down grids world wide at some point.
Interesting timing... 10 inches of snow last night and 55mph winds. No power this morning. Looks cool, but i already have solar that quite honestly was a bad decision that hasn't helped the bills much at all... except now i pay for panels too. Idk how this would work within that existing system.
Not for nothing but if your current solar is a grid tie system your probably storing your power on the grid. A system like this or similar could allow you to store your excess solar generation on this local battery. Doesn’t make sense at first pass but I’d be interested to see your power bill and agreement with your power company. I personally haven’t seen any actual bills but as a power system operator I attended many classes concerning how they expected to deal with grid tie solar and one of the deal breakers in my book was the plan to charge the customer for delivery of their own electricity produced by their panels. If you check for your delivery fee you may find it’s more significant than the cost of actual energy in some locations. I’m retired now but always considered deregulation of the power industry to be one of the biggest scams to consumers and haven’t seen anything yet to prove me wrong. 😂 concerning this system or something similar, if they are charging you for delivery of your own captured power. Take the cost they are charging you extra than if you were just buying from them. If in the long term it’s more than the warranty period and doesn’t exceed the rated cycle life of the battery, you may be able to save money by diverting excess produced power to the battery before the meter and avoid paying for the privilege to recover your power back from the grid.
Very, VERY cool, Haxmeister....but, somehow I imagine the cost is beyond my meager cash abilities. I'm also pretty sure they wouldn't send me one for free to use so I'm just going to be using my el-cheapo propane generator. Good luck with yours, young man. Just hope all the ladies in your home don't decide to do all the things young ladies do all at the same time... might really test that system!! Take care, be safe and God bless! And a Happy New Year to you and your family!
Great video!! I am looking at a system to install. Why shouldn’t I just do a Generac natural gas hook up system when the power goes out? What are your thoughts?
I thought about natural gas until a nearby community was struck by a tornado. They turned off natural gas to the whole village for several days. A dual or tri-fuel option might provide more security.
For just $10,000😳you can have a solar generator capable of running your entire house for more than 1 “day” before having to recharge😢or just spend $1,200 for a 7,000 watt inverter generator from Harbor Freight and flawlessly run your house on less than 5 gallons of gas per day for as long as needed👍
But if you buy the $2000 option and a harbor freight generator… you can run your generator at 2.5 gallons a day charging the battery pack. Best of both worlds and you don’t have to have the generator running as long. Both are assets! Batteries will get there…. But until then
@@huntermcneel4551 Totally makes sense👍I just get upset when I see people being mislead that they can run their house for days instead of hours on a battery😂
@@stevez340well there are ppl living off grid all over and have been for years. Not gonna lie,I can figure out anything I see done with my eyes.. Solar is only good for poor folks if you produce and install as much as we can by ourselves utilizing the best components and parts and spending the money on the best batteries. ur system is only as good as your storage system or batteries/ inverter allow it to be.
That thing is a beautiful work of technology. Unfortunately, many, if not most of us, don't have the ability to obtain such an amazing unit. Congratulations, though.
Great videos. I watched the one following this also. Yes I want that system!! You made the best choice for the attic vs laundry area. Why? What if you are away and your girls ( children or wife ) needed to operate this. Keep it all readily usable for them too. Every tool, device system that a many knows how to use , as the representative of his household is DISEMPOWERING all other members if it is not also something they can use, I have a pet peeve of so many standard tools etc REQUIRE TESTOSTERONE ENHANCED STRENGTH to be able to use them normally. As a senior female ( as well as when I was younger ) that renders tools as USELESS in my book. Just my experience.
my back up gen was 600$ 4 years ago, 7000w... Home normal usage 2000w. Self installed the interlock switch and cables... Entire cost was about $1000 (disclamer - no ac running on it) I could not even consider your solution
The real issue with these systems is that they are prohibitively expensive for what you get. Figure that you would need a minimum of 20-30KWh of storage for a 24 hour period for most homes if you are not conserving power and if you were trying to go 100% offgrid with solar you would need closer to 50-100KWh of battery capacity to go several days with cloudy days. Realistically one would probably want 100-200KWh of storage and a 20-30KW solar array to go 100% offgrid in most places. Pairing this Ecoflow system with a generator and a small setup like this would work fine for brief power outages but not so great for several days or weeks of a grid down situation.
I purchased a solar system with battery backup from Generac. I love the solar and the battery works great, but the ATS doesn't work properly and is the most irritating thing. The power goes down often here and 8/10 times the ATS doesn't switch over so it's as if I don't have any backup.
Great for short term power outages (albeit expensive) but I have to think a regular, large inverter generator is still a better deal for most people, especially if it's on on propane or better yet natural gas.
No it's not freaking awesome. Here's are some cons that you didn't mention about about this non-UL safety certified "solar generator". The Chinese made. lightweight, high frequency inverter tech in these light duty units is not only short lived and offer a weak 1.5 X (150%) surge capacity, when compared to conventional, heavy duty, low frequency, off grid inverters, they can also be dangerous. Since the early 1990s, high frequency, transformerless inverters gained the reputation of being the poor man’s inverter and were meant only for short lived, temporary installations. They were never designed nor meant for permanent installation to safely power a home’s appliances. First of all, these units are NOT UL-1741 listed, so unless you’re living in a tiny home, good luck obtaining a permit to permanently install this unit into your home’s electrical system. In addition, without a UL-1741 listing, you won’t qualify for many of the state rebates and tax credits that are available. Even today, after more than 25 years of product development, You'd be lucky to get even two to three years of service from these Chinese made high frequency inverters, especially when powering high inductance loads like full sized refrigerators, large power tools, portable AC units or large microwave ovens. The reason for this is that all of these lightweight, high frequency inverters lack a very critical component. That critical component is an iron core, copper wound output transformer. Without an output transformer to act as a buffer to absorb the electrical surges provided by the “Flywheel Effect” inherent in the physical amount of a transformer’s iron, these surges and damaging reverse voltage spikes must be handled directly by the inverter’s MOSFET transistors, essentially shortening their life. You might be able to start and run some high surge loads when these high frequency inverters are new, but every time you fire up one of those inductive loads, you're shortening the life of the MOSFETs in these inverters. To make things even worse, lightweight, high frequency inverters run much hotter and their internal components are far more stressed due to their high switching speeds and use of high voltage components, These two factors makes the low cost, off spec, Chinese made components such as capacitors, MOSFETs, diodes, resistors and ICs that are used in these inverters, far more prone to early failure. Simply put, high frequency inverters are better suited for like duty, electronic devices, and low frequency inverter are better suited for heavy duty, high peak power appliances. Another major consideration with many of these lightweight, high frequency, transformerless inverters is safety. First of all, high frequency inverter don’t have Isolation between the Neutral and Line which increases the risk of a shock hazard. And second, during a catastrophic of the failure of the inverter’s circuitry, all it would take is for the AC output monitoring circuitry to fail and one of the MOSFETs in the inverter's H-Bridge circuit to short to ground, and these high frequency inverters can send dangerous, high voltage, high amperage DC current straight to your connected AC loads which will not only damage most AC appliances but can also set those AC appliances on fire. Another issue with most of these high frequency solar generators and inverters is that, rather than go into an overload shut down, the units will lower its output voltage, creating a brown out, which can drop its voltage to as low as 80 Volts which can cause damage to your home’s electronics. Brownouts can also cause damage to insulation and cause unexpected electronic failure in the future. A sustained brownout could cause damage to electronic motors that are in everyday appliances, including washing machines, dryers, fans, air conditioners, refrigerators, and freezers. US appliances are designed to operate at a nominal voltage of 110 to 120 VAC not 80 VAC. What these cheap, high frequency inverters are doing, is sacrificing your appliances to protect itself. Another consideration that is never mentioned by those RUclips high frequency inverter affiliate hucksters, is that the vast majority of these inverters are non-repairable. After the warranty runs out, you're not going to be able to ship these units back to the manufacturer in China and have them repair them. And at a typical shop rate of $125 per hour here in the US, with no schematic and limited parts availability, it won't make economic sense to even attempt to repair one of these units. Once the FETs have fried and have burned a good portion of the inverter's PCB, (And trust me, sooner rather than later, they will fry.) they basically become a brick. A much better choice would be to invest in a UL-1741 listed hybrid inverter and a bank of LFP batteries or power station that uses low frequency, transformer based technology in its design. Low frequency inverters can handle high surge loads for at least 3x (300%) their continuous rated capacity and they can do this repeatedly, without sustaining damage to their MOSFET transistors, for minutes, rather than the milliseconds that a high frequency inverter offers. That's why the big name brand inverter manufacturers like Schneider Electric, Outback Power, Sigineer Power, Magnum Energy and others, all use a low frequency topology in their design.
Wow, I read the whole thing. Thanks for the info. I just purchased the anker f3800, and now having second thoughts. Gonna look into these hybrid battery generators. I just like the portability of the anker and ecoflow generators. Just when I thought I had these battery generators figured out. 😢
I understand and don't disagree. I have both kinds of inverters. SO far there is no visible difference in the performance of any of the items being ran by them. I have more panels, more inverter power, and more battery than I need for what I'm running.. I'm even monster wired up with huge marine tin coated copper cable for 12v on my 48v system, and all of that may be why (because I'm not even close to pushing it), but both my inverter types seem to operate what they're running equally well so far.
Holy shit Haxman, the Panel and the Delta Pro with one battery is $7,500 bucks! An additional battery is $3,200 bucks. Sorry but this "Green" technology is WAY overpriced and not very practical without solar panels that cost more big $$$$. There is ZERO return on investment for any of this "Green" technology. Any sane person would purchase a 10,000 Watt portable generator running on Propane for a 10th of the cost of a Delta Pro and additional battery. Let me guess, EcoFlow comped this equipment to you for the review????
I went to Costco and bought a standby generator at close out price 22K Generac propane for $3999 including transfer switch. I paid $2500 installation $6400 all in price. It’s extremely good and very reliable system. You definitely don’t want to take your system with you when you move because it adds value to the home. I really think you need to do your homework on which system is best. I almost forgot to mention, I received 4% cash back from Costco so that was $160 back so really $6,240.00 all in! I was in a tax free state so no retail tax.
The proprietary software and app is my only deterrent. I'm searching for a battery backup option that also allows for a generator during long outages. DPU or EG4 route..I can't decide
It would be nice if you could use it as a battery bank for a solar array so it could be used as supplemental power to the grid. You could some ROI that way.
Impressive backup unit! Is the parent company for these based out of China? Per installing the appt to run this system, what information are you sharing?
Well, it looks like I need to call my buddy that works at the return item warehouse and get one of these and about five or ten batteries as well as a few solar panels. I have a Duro Max 13000 set up now, and to be honest, it is a pain to maintain and it is noisy. I can keep that as a back up to charge the batteries, should the power be off for more than a few days, but I still need to do the maintenance, just not as much. So, even though there are a ton of generators in the neighborhood that make a lot of noise, at lease I won't be contributing to the noise unless I absolutely have to. Oh, and I won't need to reset the clocks.
Hey Adam, I assume that panel has an automatic transfer switch built in that prevents backfeed of the battery onto the grid, but in all the demo videos I’ve seen I don’t think I’ve heard it mentioned. Can you confirm that?
Just went though a hurricane a lot of houses here cought on fire because of large lithium batteries getting in contact with seawater. These devices are cool but are more or less just an expensive fire bomb parked in your garage if you live in an area where storm surge is an issue.
That electrician should be fired for that panel install. Sub feed run through PVC pipe with no male adapter, locknut, or bushing. This was obviously not inspected. A lazy electrician is a dangerous electrician.
These things look great…until you get a fleeting glimpse of the remaining battery available, which is around an hour. No way this will provide much power during an outage. Yes, it will help to supplement with solar charging but the past few days here in Fort Worth, we have continuous clouds with rain, so placing your trust in solar, even just to keep these batteries charged isn’t the answer. The wind has also been close to non existent so that’s not a viable option. A back up generator is the best way to go but I would say it needs to be dual fuel because a gas generator will only run an average of 8 hours or so before adding gas. Where are you going to store extra gas cans where it’s safe. If it will run off propane then it will need a bigger tank than your gas grill size or you have similar run times. You can’t always get gas when you want it. Mass outages and devastating storms knocks out travel and the stores. The only best answer for me and this is my opinion is a whole home generator that is propane fueled. Now the question becomes, can I afford it. The next question for all of us is, can we afford not to or to do without. Do your research and apply to your needs before jumping out there…
This set up is really interesting but how does it stack up against a whole house instant on generator? Can this setup power a whole house? If so, for how long?
Absolutely! Without the AC running it will power everything for about 24 hours. With the AC running periodically it’s probably closer to 12 hours. Of course it depends on your usage of everything. This is for one battery. Obviously the more batteries you stack the longer it will go.
@@HaxmanXTRA thank you for the reply! I have been considering an instant on backup generator for years and moved up on the radar screen. If this battery setup is an alternative, then it deserves a good look. Thank you once again for posting this video AND for replying to my comment/question!
@@HaxmanXTRA How did you come up with that? 6kWh for 24 hrs is only 250wH per hour. Even if you are total power off for 12 of 24 hours, still only have 500wH per hour and it's dead.
Do you know if this will drive a 5-ton AC with a single stack? Looks like you have a 50amp 240 circ, so I'm guessing so, but you mention having a 3-ton AC so...
Awesome! And when it runs out you can just go down to the corner electric station and fill up your electric can and fire it right back up! Hey, wait a minute...
Right on Captain, that sounds about right. I built a 48V 30KW/Hr, 300 pound lifepo4 power bank last year for half that price. Awesome assessment! I ended up with two, 250 Amp, 16S, 48V Daly BMS with a seven-inch BMS LCD display, comprising of 32, 305Ah lifepo4 cells with an output cap of a whopping 24,000 watts at any given time.
@@meansswing Please remember the following information: - Everything comes from China, so don't assume that products from China are always low quality. - If you are willing to wait 2-3 months and pay less, you can order from Alibaba. However, if you need the product sooner, consider ordering from Signature Solar, but be prepared to pay more for convenience and warranty. - Consider purchasing batteries from China or a trusted US-based dealer. - Purchase solar panels from China. For example, I paid $600 for 10 mono 550W panels, which would cost three times as much in the US. Additionally, in the US, you would have to buy them in pallets. - Buy the inverter from the US. EG4 inverters are good and come with a warranty and the ability to remotely control the inverter. - If you are not concerned about remote control and extra features, you can opt for an MRPWR, which is a Chinese-made inverter that works well. I hope this information helps.
You all talking about running out of fuel must have missed the "thunderstorm" generator. If you have not seen this, educate yourself. Harbor freight grab the 13,000 watt tri-fuel system. Add on your thunderstorm. No worries about running out of fuel.
They're cool. But cost wise not practical at all, especially in comparison to a gas generator. Furthermore the solar panel setup you'd have to invest in to keep it charged would be significant. Solar panels don't bring in that much energy on a small scale.
This compared to 8KW off grid solar with DIY Lifepo4 batteries compares well. Doing proper DIY system with all shunts, safety, proper cabling and managing it costs even more than ready to turn on solution with everything integrated and managed easily with proper software
I knew this was going to be an Eocflo product before I even clicked. They are pushing their influencers hard this week just in time for CES. At least 5 channels I follow are pushing this product line this week. I don't know anything about the product, or company but seeing so many channels pimping the same product...that destroys some of the integrity of both Ecoflo and the channels.
So when Ford introduces a new model and all the channels and magazines test it at the same time does it destroy both Ford and the channel’s integrity as well? 🤔
You can take it with you? If you have an electrician in your area that will be on call! This is out of most people’s budget and you must have internet and a cell phone working to upgrade and operate it ,tell us how long this is going to operate in a grid down situation ? Eco Flow must have a huge budget for advertising this because almost every person I follow on the tube has had this same infomercial on ! It’s not a true off grid solution and at 10 k plus install costs it’s not the choice for anyone but the wealthy people!
I was thinking about getting one of these until Hurricane Milton showed me…. No. I have a honda Eu 7000 that runs most of my house on a 10 circuit subpanel. Been out of power now for 6 days. Cost me 4 gallons of fuel every 12 hours of running and it has run nonstop since the storm. It would have cost 20k in batteries to almost come close. The only way I see this working is to have a generator 1/2 of the time charging those batteries. So I save 2 gallons of gas???? For the benefit of a silent night and charging all day on a slower charge setting so it doesn’t trip my generator. Cant see the benefit over a generator for days on in of power. To much $$
@restotool You should probably quit watching RUclips all together if you get your panties in a wad that easy. Do you get this upset when all the car channels test a new pickup truck on it’s release date?
He knows much more than me about the technical side of things. I definitely got it higher than that for short periods of time at least. We all had preproduction units with beta firmware so that could have played a part.
WHY are the Anderson Power Poles Stacked and laid on their side???? That's ODD! Normally Andersons are narrow side connected to narrow side. Red on the Right side with the tongue turned up... is the way Ham Radio operators around the world set up for 12V. Those Andersons are stacked wide side connected to wide side which is normally to prevent having 12V connected.... Must be China built???
Cool product, but pretty gross of them to want you to “buy” a $300 coupon to get $1,500 off 🤔 so you’re actually getting $1,200 off. Then they don’t tell you how much it is with their weird “$4,XXX” gimmick. Be up front with your pricing 🙄
How are these a better alternative to regular generators. because if your power is out for more than a day you can never recharge them and use them in the meantime. it's such a stupid idea
I have a noisy 12,000 watt propane generator. It burns 1.1 gallons of propane per hour, no matter if the whole house is on, or just the night light in the hallway. To me, that's horrible inefficient. Battery power is the way, you can only use the power needed 10 watts or 5,000 watts. That's all it uses up. Plus my big screen tv doesn't like dirty generator power. I've fried 3 over the last 5yrs before I realized they lied to me about the output power wasn't good enough for electronics, like generac engineer was claiming..... low total harmonic distortion... nope!
Because I saw this, I will definitely buy a backup generator rather than this thing. The price is astronomical and I gotta say you kinda lied about that. The amount of power you get out of that thing is incredibly If you consider the battery is Literally a joke as far as being a real backup For more than 2-3 hours. A backup generator will last for days. That's just another rich man's toy. Ooh shiny
You know, I agree. I spoke with the freedom that comes after watching a RUclips video and discovering i should have never watched it because it was way more expensive than most folks would ever actually be willing to spend. But there are a lot of rich people out there and I think you served them well. I can't edit it with these goggles but I will edit it tomorrow so that It doesn't make you feel like I said you lied. After watching the video, I kinda liked you and was just talking to you like a friend. And I kinda felt a twang for being brought in by a title that was attractive since I want a backup generator. But that's on me, And for your heart's sake I sincerely apologize. I absolutely positively do not think you are a liar and actually I think you're quite a nice fellow with a good heart. The video is actually one of the best I've seen on RUclips. I love your presentation and how you Describe The value this can present. I get it If you make a lot of money, my friend... to you, this is a marvelous thing. To me it's... Currently an impossibility. A backup generator would be so much cheaper. I was shocked and felt like Video had led me astray. but you know what? You're right. Even though I meant it as a friendly poke, I apologize. For me the most important thing in Comparisons of disparate equipment would be price/cost. When I read the price/cost in the comments I was Really disappointed. Your video is so good. It got me very excited. Actually it's a little bit painful to see such a cool piece of equipment because if I had that kind of money, I would have this stuff all over the place. Little jealous of you, my friend. But good for you, good on you, And I hope the very best for you and your channel. I did learn something though And this is what I would do. I would buy a backup generator and have enough lithium batteries Charged by the backup generatorto use one of these Inverters You showed us to power my house because I have never seen such a solid Amount of a true sinewave power. 6000 watts coming out of an inverter. That's what really impressed me. The backup generator could charge the batteries for me. So they'd be ready when I needed them. I wouldn't have to go out and start the The generator For all those silly little thirty-minute outages that we can get around here. The big ones can be a week or more long So I'll backup generators and absolute necessity. I'll do my best to edit that tomorrow. I'm not in a position to do it now I'm afraid. For some reason, RUclips does not Always allow edits when you're using an Oculus quest. I'm laid up in bed with a bad back and apologize that I can't take care of it right now... I tried but it failed. I think there's something wrong with the Oculus Quest browser and RUclips working together. @@HaxmanXTRA
7200W peak power would barely power my kitchen... certainly not the 5 tons of AC in the house. Even if it did, with 6,000 WH, it would power it for less than an hour. How is this, "more powerful than anything else on the market" when my 20KW propane powered full auto standby generator meats this thing hands-down? You know how much money it would cost to equal what one can have with a 20KW propane powered generator, auto transfer switch, and a 500 gallon propane tank? hint: even if you maxed this system out, you won't have that. Oh, but I do have to wait a couple of seconds for the generator to start and transfer the load...
😢 you lost me on less expensive to install. I mean you can grab a 9000 watt gas generator and transfer switch for $3000. Your 4000 watt panels isnt going to do anything if you lost power because of a crazy snow storm.
The tests you did are all done running without any load put your hand on the suction tube and run a board through the saw it’s not a real test until you are actually using them,also you aren’t honest about how much a generator vs this system costs to install and what about the UL rating?
All good and fine, but this unit costs $6,500 before installation fees. I mean, it does have cool features - but this is the base cost before purchasing extra batteries or solar panels. I’m thinking all inclusive, it ends up being a wash, except this unit is portable.
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After ten years of not paying a single dime on a power or water bill, I went from living the hard life on just 600 watts of solar for that duration to having done a 10,000 Watt, self-installed solar array on my barn roof with 35 kilowatt hours in lifepo4, plus four Honda EU3000IS inverter generators as backup to secure me for at least the next ten years. I gave my neighbor who is grid connected, a Bluetti AC200P, three brand new rigid 330W panels plus a Honda generator to get him started. The guy is ecstatic and very eager to get into the game. Oh and by the way, I began my off-grid endeavor with several 55 gallon lidded containers collecting rainwater to survive, that has been updated to a self-installed 5,000 gallon rainwater filtration system. Tomorrow is officially my ten-year off grid anniversary celebration and its a great feeling! I did my math and we're on the winning team.
That is awesome. Congratulations on your 10 yr anniversary of success, and very nice of you to help your neighbor! I'm looking at a starter setup like that as well, just maybe a wen generator for affordability. I only have one 400w panel fr Anker and a 200w panel & ep70 from bluettie.
I'd like a battery bank to handle just power outage basics (like maybe 6,500kwh) but also use solar to cut daily electric bill. Lots to learn and then keep it simple!
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This is what people should be looking at. The whole on grid is easily replaceable with a solar panel and battery setup. When you really look at how much energy you draw a day it’s for most people (not USA with their giant houses) it’s about 5kw a day.
Only they don’t sell this delta ultra or the delta 3 outside of USA. Which is 💩
We over here in eu and uk would just on these setups faster than those in the USA I’d say. They just need to release the good products rather than the old ones.
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That generator is in the $6,000+ range! I noticed, at your 49% battery remaining, with very low power consumption (1,520 W), there was only 1 hour and 47 minutes remaining. One extra battery is around $3,600. That would still only be 8 hours of battery life, starting full, with 2 batteries and the equivalent of one hair dryer running.
NOTE: I have experienced a loss of utility power for over a week in freezing temperatures. During that time, the cloud cover was so dark and thick, no solar panels would charge anything. The cost of that Delta Pro Utra is extremely high. I would need walls of batteries and still they wouldn't last a week. Granted, I typically use 30-200 Kwh per day.
I've already purchased a Generac 22 KW generator which supplies much more power than I need and it needs no wall of batteries, or the sun. I did purchase the panel to auto-switch in a power failure, as welll as auto-switch back when power returns. The total cost for my whole-house backup system was just under $11,000 and I needed trenches dug because my generator needed to be away from the house. Could be a lot less for others if there is a nice spot available next to the house that meets code. NOTE: I've alreay experienced multiple power outages and the Generac worked flawlessly every time.
Also, for minimal cost, I installed the emporia energy monitor (something like $165) which allows me to monitor total power usage and I can view power usage down to every circuit breaker. Very nice to locate the devices actually drawing all the electricity and mimimize/optimize usage.
Also, I added a whole home surge protector (Siemens FS140 - $225) so energy spikes from lightning don't damage my equipment. Prior to installing it, I previously lost a heat pump, regrigerator, desktop computer, and a TV (different power events). After installing it years ago, not one loss of any equipment and i'm positive I was hit with spikes that would have damaged equipment without it, on multiple occassions.
So, for me, that Delta Pro Utra is amazing, but the cost is just NOT practicle at all.
Battery back up is just BS. You can get a gas powered solution for a tenth of the price. OVER RATED.
ps I own 6 of them for various purposes and would NEVER consider one for a real home backup unless I was going to spend $10k plus instead of a $1000 generator that doesn't crap the bed when it is cloudy. I hate how people hype these stupid 3 or 4 hour back up solutions like they are the second coming... so disingenuous.
Amen. Nothing like a buncha gas w/stabil and two generators for redundancy. You can go forever for 1/10th the price.@@Hutch_Davenport
@@Hutch_Davenportthe eco flow check might change your tune 😂
Agreed. The only reason I would consider it is just to run lights and non-appliance outlets during said emergencies. Otherwise, I bought a 10K gasoline/propane generator ($900) and some ($300ish?) electrical supplies (suicide plug) to manually hook up my house for extended power outages. small UPS units are reasonable otherwise.
I hate to say it,but I've heard the ecoflow runs into more issues than other brands and it's also more expensive so it's basically a ripoff.
I had an electrician do a generator transfer panel in my house. It was not terribly expensive. It was the best money I ever spent I’d love to use this battery on my system. I have everything in my house except my oven and washer and dryer on my transfer panel. I have multiple sump pumps I need to keep going during an outage. I love this battery.
We had one too and loved it. We installed Tesla solar/powerwall and Tesla wanted it removed. The new Star Solar/powerwalls have the generator connection built in. It's the way to roll.
I’ve got a dual fuel generator that I’ll fire up for a temporary power supply and it cost me about 300$ eight years ago and works great! No electrician needed either!
Those make seriously dirty power and will eventually destroy things, especially delicate electronics. The best solution is to procure a legit charger that makes proper sine wave energy, that your generator can run. The best so fat that I know of is EG4's new'ish "Chargverter". It's adjustable for various amp loads and generator sizes. Increases your power many fold over your generator, and is clean power that won't damage your goods.👍
and it costs $100 to run during power outages!
I have two portable 9000 watt duel fuel inverter generators that I run in parallel that will power anything in my home and pool except emergency/auxiliary heat. It will run my 5 ton heat pump, for AC, in the summer. $4500 for everything except my 10 propane bottles that I paid $1500 for. 200 gallons of propane was $600. I have four 1500 watt space heaters and a propane heater if needed. I also keep a half cord of firewood, on hand, in the winter. It takes a little time to set everything up but I usually have some of the equipment set up if I hear that a weather event is coming that could knock out power in the winter. I live in DFW and took February of 2021 as my warning. I had this plan of action ready for the following winter!
I forgot to mention that I put a soft start device on my heat pump that enables my generators to power the 5 ton heat pump. Thanks for the video! Mike in DFW
@@Nat_Sarim You can purchase a Westinghouse WGen12000DFc Dual fuel generator that has less than 5% THD. 12,000 running watts, 50 AMP connection to the home. $2,399. No problems running sensitive electronics and will power the entire home.
Starting to think ecoflow is sponsoring every yt creator lol. They look nice but at least here in France, where power is underground outages are such a rare occasion.
Until it's intentional, and it's coming. It's not a "conspiracy theory", it's in all their white papers. They are going to shut down grids world wide at some point.
It's not fair they give These units away to rich RUclipsrs but us poor ones get nothing not MF fair !!!!
@@coreybabcock2023 you serious comrade?
@@johnnyappleseed7105 gth
Setup for clients 3 of the Ecoflow systems, with transfer switch. Absolutely no problems in 18 months in Florida.
Interesting timing... 10 inches of snow last night and 55mph winds. No power this morning. Looks cool, but i already have solar that quite honestly was a bad decision that hasn't helped the bills much at all... except now i pay for panels too. Idk how this would work within that existing system.
Not for nothing but if your current solar is a grid tie system your probably storing your power on the grid. A system like this or similar could allow you to store your excess solar generation on this local battery. Doesn’t make sense at first pass but I’d be interested to see your power bill and agreement with your power company. I personally haven’t seen any actual bills but as a power system operator I attended many classes concerning how they expected to deal with grid tie solar and one of the deal breakers in my book was the plan to charge the customer for delivery of their own electricity produced by their panels. If you check for your delivery fee you may find it’s more significant than the cost of actual energy in some locations. I’m retired now but always considered deregulation of the power industry to be one of the biggest scams to consumers and haven’t seen anything yet to prove me wrong. 😂 concerning this system or something similar, if they are charging you for delivery of your own captured power. Take the cost they are charging you extra than if you were just buying from them. If in the long term it’s more than the warranty period and doesn’t exceed the rated cycle life of the battery, you may be able to save money by diverting excess produced power to the battery before the meter and avoid paying for the privilege to recover your power back from the grid.
Very, VERY cool, Haxmeister....but, somehow I imagine the cost is beyond my meager cash abilities. I'm also pretty sure they wouldn't send me one for free to use so I'm just going to be using my el-cheapo propane generator. Good luck with yours, young man. Just hope all the ladies in your home don't decide to do all the things young ladies do all at the same time... might really test that system!! Take care, be safe and God bless! And a Happy New Year to you and your family!
Thank you Jim! Same to you and yours!
I think the garage tool scenario answers the female questions. The shop will draw more. You just need more battery potential for longer duration.
Hey Ron Popeil, uh, I mean Hey Hax - Great video. You forgot to say "set it and forget it." Thumbs up. Enjoy your power back up. Best to Bruce.
I also forgot to mention the free set of knives. Dang!
Great video!! I am looking at a system to install. Why shouldn’t I just do a Generac natural gas hook up system when the power goes out? What are your thoughts?
it's not portable might be the only drawback
I thought about natural gas until a nearby community was struck by a tornado. They turned off natural gas to the whole village for several days.
A dual or tri-fuel option might provide more security.
Looks amazing! Will it blowup your house if it gets wet or hot?
That’s cool, I was just worried about my two refrigerator and portable AC/Heater. This sounds perfect.
For just $10,000😳you can have a solar generator capable of running your entire house for more than 1 “day” before having to recharge😢or just spend $1,200 for a 7,000 watt inverter generator from Harbor Freight and flawlessly run your house on less than 5 gallons of gas per day for as long as needed👍
Sometimes technology is just out of reach for us and the good old tried and true methods that still work are better!
@@donaldfrazier5244 And telling the truth that your lithium battery will run your house for less than a day during an outage also matters lol!
But if you buy the $2000 option and a harbor freight generator… you can run your generator at 2.5 gallons a day charging the battery pack. Best of both worlds and you don’t have to have the generator running as long. Both are assets! Batteries will get there…. But until then
@@huntermcneel4551 Totally makes sense👍I just get upset when I see people being mislead that they can run their house for days instead of hours on a battery😂
@@stevez340well there are ppl living off grid all over and have been for years.
Not gonna lie,I can figure out anything I see done with my eyes..
Solar is only good for poor folks if you produce and install as much as we can by ourselves utilizing the best components and parts and spending the money on the best batteries.
ur system is only as good as your storage system or batteries/ inverter allow it to be.
That thing is a beautiful work of technology. Unfortunately, many, if not most of us, don't have the ability to obtain such an amazing unit. Congratulations, though.
Great videos. I watched the one following this also. Yes I want that system!!
You made the best choice for the attic vs laundry area. Why? What if you are away and your girls ( children or wife ) needed to operate this. Keep it all readily usable for them too.
Every tool, device system that a many knows how to use , as the representative of his household is DISEMPOWERING all other members if it is not also something they can use,
I have a pet peeve of so many standard tools etc REQUIRE TESTOSTERONE ENHANCED STRENGTH to be able to use them normally. As a senior female ( as well as when I was younger ) that renders tools as USELESS in my book. Just my experience.
my back up gen was 600$ 4 years ago, 7000w... Home normal usage 2000w. Self installed the interlock switch and cables... Entire cost was about $1000 (disclamer - no ac running on it)
I could not even consider your solution
The real issue with these systems is that they are prohibitively expensive for what you get. Figure that you would need a minimum of 20-30KWh of storage for a 24 hour period for most homes if you are not conserving power and if you were trying to go 100% offgrid with solar you would need closer to 50-100KWh of battery capacity to go several days with cloudy days. Realistically one would probably want 100-200KWh of storage and a 20-30KW solar array to go 100% offgrid in most places.
Pairing this Ecoflow system with a generator and a small setup like this would work fine for brief power outages but not so great for several days or weeks of a grid down situation.
I purchased a solar system with battery backup from Generac. I love the solar and the battery works great, but the ATS doesn't work properly and is the most irritating thing. The power goes down often here and 8/10 times the ATS doesn't switch over so it's as if I don't have any backup.
So, you discuss the AC (whole house). What about a heat pump? That is a cool system. What's the battery life for this set up?
Great for short term power outages (albeit expensive) but I have to think a regular, large inverter generator is still a better deal for most people, especially if it's on on propane or better yet natural gas.
No it's not freaking awesome. Here's are some cons that you didn't mention about about this non-UL safety certified "solar generator". The Chinese made. lightweight, high frequency inverter tech in these light duty units is not only short lived and offer a weak 1.5 X (150%) surge capacity, when compared to conventional, heavy duty, low frequency, off grid inverters, they can also be dangerous.
Since the early 1990s, high frequency, transformerless inverters gained the reputation of being the poor man’s inverter and were meant only for short lived, temporary installations. They were never designed nor meant for permanent installation to safely power a home’s appliances.
First of all, these units are NOT UL-1741 listed, so unless you’re living in a tiny home, good luck obtaining a permit to permanently install this unit into your home’s electrical system. In addition, without a UL-1741 listing, you won’t qualify for many of the state rebates and tax credits that are available.
Even today, after more than 25 years of product development, You'd be lucky to get even two to three years of service from these Chinese made high frequency inverters, especially when powering high inductance loads like full sized refrigerators, large power tools, portable AC units or large microwave ovens. The reason for this is that all of these lightweight, high frequency inverters lack a very critical component. That critical component is an iron core, copper wound output transformer. Without an output transformer to act as a buffer to absorb the electrical surges provided by the “Flywheel Effect” inherent in the physical amount of a transformer’s iron, these surges and damaging reverse voltage spikes must be handled directly by the inverter’s MOSFET transistors, essentially shortening their life.
You might be able to start and run some high surge loads when these high frequency inverters are new, but every time you fire up one of those inductive loads, you're shortening the life of the MOSFETs in these inverters. To make things even worse, lightweight, high frequency inverters run much hotter and their internal components are far more stressed due to their high switching speeds and use of high voltage components, These two factors makes the low cost, off spec, Chinese made components such as capacitors, MOSFETs, diodes, resistors and ICs that are used in these inverters, far more prone to early failure. Simply put, high frequency inverters are better suited for like duty, electronic devices, and low frequency inverter are better suited for heavy duty, high peak power appliances.
Another major consideration with many of these lightweight, high frequency, transformerless inverters is safety. First of all, high frequency inverter don’t have Isolation between the Neutral and Line which increases the risk of a shock hazard. And second, during a catastrophic of the failure of the inverter’s circuitry, all it would take is for the AC output monitoring circuitry to fail and one of the MOSFETs in the inverter's H-Bridge circuit to short to ground, and these high frequency inverters can send dangerous, high voltage, high amperage DC current straight to your connected AC loads which will not only damage most AC appliances but can also set those AC appliances on fire.
Another issue with most of these high frequency solar generators and inverters is that, rather than go into an overload shut down, the units will lower its output voltage, creating a brown out, which can drop its voltage to as low as 80 Volts which can cause damage to your home’s electronics. Brownouts can also cause damage to insulation and cause unexpected electronic failure in the future. A sustained brownout could cause damage to electronic motors that are in everyday appliances, including washing machines, dryers, fans, air conditioners, refrigerators, and freezers. US appliances are designed to operate at a nominal voltage of 110 to 120 VAC not 80 VAC. What these cheap, high frequency inverters are doing, is sacrificing your appliances to protect itself.
Another consideration that is never mentioned by those RUclips high frequency inverter affiliate hucksters, is that the vast majority of these inverters are non-repairable. After the warranty runs out, you're not going to be able to ship these units back to the manufacturer in China and have them repair them. And at a typical shop rate of $125 per hour here in the US, with no schematic and limited parts availability, it won't make economic sense to even attempt to repair one of these units. Once the FETs have fried and have burned a good portion of the inverter's PCB, (And trust me, sooner rather than later, they will fry.) they basically become a brick.
A much better choice would be to invest in a UL-1741 listed hybrid inverter and a bank of LFP batteries or power station that uses low frequency, transformer based technology in its design. Low frequency inverters can handle high surge loads for at least 3x (300%) their continuous rated capacity and they can do this repeatedly, without sustaining damage to their MOSFET transistors, for minutes, rather than the milliseconds that a high frequency inverter offers. That's why the big name brand inverter manufacturers like Schneider Electric, Outback Power, Sigineer Power, Magnum Energy and others, all use a low frequency topology in their design.
Wow, I read the whole thing. Thanks for the info. I just purchased the anker f3800, and now having second thoughts. Gonna look into these hybrid battery generators. I just like the portability of the anker and ecoflow generators. Just when I thought I had these battery generators figured out. 😢
I understand and don't disagree. I have both kinds of inverters. SO far there is no visible difference in the performance of any of the items being ran by them. I have more panels, more inverter power, and more battery than I need for what I'm running.. I'm even monster wired up with huge marine tin coated copper cable for 12v on my 48v system, and all of that may be why (because I'm not even close to pushing it), but both my inverter types seem to operate what they're running equally well so far.
Excellent points! Thank you for the enlightenment!
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I had a aims 3000 LF inverter charger and that thing was always having issues since I got my xantrex freedom xc 2000 inverter charger no issues yet
Fire hazard ?
Like an EV or a cell phone ?
What does it do to your homeowner’s insurance?
Love it but I have to stick with separates on my solar off grid rv
Great explanation/info. Thanks!
Holy shit Haxman, the Panel and the Delta Pro with one battery is $7,500 bucks! An additional battery is $3,200 bucks. Sorry but this "Green" technology is WAY overpriced and not very practical without solar panels that cost more big $$$$. There is ZERO return on investment for any of this "Green" technology. Any sane person would purchase a 10,000 Watt portable generator running on Propane for a 10th of the cost of a Delta Pro and additional battery. Let me guess, EcoFlow comped this equipment to you for the review????
It’s $4,999
Sale price right now is what?
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Home power backup isn't cheap green or not.
I went to Costco and bought a standby generator at close out price 22K Generac propane for $3999 including transfer switch. I paid $2500 installation $6400 all in price. It’s extremely good and very reliable system. You definitely don’t want to take your system with you when you move because it adds value to the home. I really think you need to do your homework on which system is best. I almost forgot to mention, I received 4% cash back from Costco so that was $160 back so really $6,240.00 all in! I was in a tax free state so no retail tax.
But…It’s Propane. I live in an HOA Villa community. Can’t have Anything Outside. I’m limited to Battery backup.
The proprietary software and app is my only deterrent. I'm searching for a battery backup option that also allows for a generator during long outages. DPU or EG4 route..I can't decide
It would be nice if you could use it as a battery bank for a solar array so it could be used as supplemental power to the grid. You could some ROI that way.
You can
Impressive backup unit! Is the parent company for these based out of China? Per installing the appt to run this system, what information are you sharing?
I am running the EcoFlow app for my Delta 2 Max. Allowed App Permissions are: Location, Nearby Devices and Notifications.
Well, it looks like I need to call my buddy that works at the return item warehouse and get one of these and about five or ten batteries as well as a few solar panels. I have a Duro Max 13000 set up now, and to be honest, it is a pain to maintain and it is noisy. I can keep that as a back up to charge the batteries, should the power be off for more than a few days, but I still need to do the maintenance, just not as much.
So, even though there are a ton of generators in the neighborhood that make a lot of noise, at lease I won't be contributing to the noise unless I absolutely have to.
Oh, and I won't need to reset the clocks.
This is Cool AF!!!
Thanks for Sharing!
Good demo, but the price is too high for me
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Hey Adam, I assume that panel has an automatic transfer switch built in that prevents backfeed of the battery onto the grid, but in all the demo videos I’ve seen I don’t think I’ve heard it mentioned. Can you confirm that?
Yes it does. When power is restored it automatically switches power from the DPU off and switches back to grid power.
@@HaxmanXTRAwill it run a well pump . That’s my biggest draw except for my electric range and A/C
Just went though a hurricane a lot of houses here cought on fire because of large lithium batteries getting in contact with seawater. These devices are cool but are more or less just an expensive fire bomb parked in your garage if you live in an area where storm surge is an issue.
Im sick of RUclipsrs getting this stuff Free im living in my van and i need something like this and can't afford it
Uhh why don’t you start a RUclips channel then? You expect something for free when you offer the company no value?
We all get to deal with the consequences of our choices.
Always make sure your heat gun is pointed at the dust cleaner when its on high. Haha
That electrician should be fired for that panel install. Sub feed run through PVC pipe with no male adapter, locknut, or bushing. This was obviously not inspected. A lazy electrician is a dangerous electrician.
These things look great…until you get a fleeting glimpse of the remaining battery available, which is around an hour. No way this will provide much power during an outage. Yes, it will help to supplement with solar charging but the past few days here in Fort Worth, we have continuous clouds with rain, so placing your trust in solar, even just to keep these batteries charged isn’t the answer. The wind has also been close to non existent so that’s not a viable option. A back up generator is the best way to go but I would say it needs to be dual fuel because a gas generator will only run an average of 8 hours or so before adding gas. Where are you going to store extra gas cans where it’s safe. If it will run off propane then it will need a bigger tank than your gas grill size or you have similar run times.
You can’t always get gas when you want it. Mass outages and devastating storms knocks out travel and the stores. The only best answer for me and this is my opinion is a whole home generator that is propane fueled. Now the question becomes, can I afford it. The next question for all of us is, can we afford not to or to do without.
Do your research and apply to your needs before jumping out there…
You must be one of them who have every version of the Apple iphone.
So wanted to do this, but no AC coupling. Deal Breaker for those with grid roof solar
6k to start
4K per extra sealed battery (other batteries can be opened and rebuilt )
Too much
This set up is really interesting but how does it stack up against a whole house instant on generator? Can this setup power a whole house? If so, for how long?
Absolutely! Without the AC running it will power everything for about 24 hours. With the AC running periodically it’s probably closer to 12 hours. Of course it depends on your usage of everything. This is for one battery. Obviously the more batteries you stack the longer it will go.
@@HaxmanXTRA thank you for the reply!
I have been considering an instant on backup generator for years and moved up on the radar screen. If this battery setup is an alternative, then it deserves a good look.
Thank you once again for posting this video AND for replying to my comment/question!
@@HaxmanXTRA How did you come up with that? 6kWh for 24 hrs is only 250wH per hour. Even if you are total power off for 12 of 24 hours, still only have 500wH per hour and it's dead.
Do you know if this will drive a 5-ton AC with a single stack? Looks like you have a 50amp 240 circ, so I'm guessing so, but you mention having a 3-ton AC so...
I'm not sure honestly. I don't see how it couldn't. A single stack of five batteries would have more than enough watts.
from things i remember its hard to maintain so many apliances in one battery .. maybe a second battery in that stack will help the system .
Can you run a AC unit with it?
Hi how much is this battery and is silence battery and tape diesel or petrol
With those style batteries do you have to be concerned about outgaussing?
Are you concerned that some day in your life you will be in an auto accident? The BMS on lifepo4's are more reliable and safer than your cell phone.
My question is were I can buy this equipment ? ? ? 😎😎😎
you could buy awhole solar setup panels, batteries, inverter heck and a generator for that price.
can you have it hooked into your house AND run power from its ports?
Yes
Cool but when are we going to get more Bronco???
😄 I’m working on some big stuff for the main channel. It’ll be out soon.
I saw this now and will be buying a whole house natural gas generator within a month.
Awesome! And when it runs out you can just go down to the corner electric station and fill up your electric can and fire it right back up!
Hey, wait a minute...
No, you just connect a solar panel.
For 13k you can build you 60kw battery solar and inverter 😊. No bells and whistles
Right on Captain, that sounds about right. I built a 48V 30KW/Hr, 300 pound lifepo4 power bank last year for half that price. Awesome assessment! I ended up with two, 250 Amp, 16S, 48V Daly BMS with a seven-inch BMS LCD display, comprising of 32, 305Ah lifepo4 cells with an output cap of a whopping 24,000 watts at any given time.
Where is the best place to buy a system like that?
@@meansswing Please remember the following information:
- Everything comes from China, so don't assume that products from China are always low quality.
- If you are willing to wait 2-3 months and pay less, you can order from Alibaba. However, if you need the product sooner, consider ordering from Signature Solar, but be prepared to pay more for convenience and warranty.
- Consider purchasing batteries from China or a trusted US-based dealer.
- Purchase solar panels from China. For example, I paid $600 for 10 mono 550W panels, which would cost three times as much in the US. Additionally, in the US, you would have to buy them in pallets.
- Buy the inverter from the US. EG4 inverters are good and come with a warranty and the ability to remotely control the inverter.
- If you are not concerned about remote control and extra features, you can opt for an MRPWR, which is a Chinese-made inverter that works well.
I hope this information helps.
@@nonsoiwunwa2553 Appreciate all the information.
You all talking about running out of fuel must have missed the "thunderstorm" generator. If you have not seen this, educate yourself.
Harbor freight grab the 13,000 watt tri-fuel system. Add on your thunderstorm. No worries about running out of fuel.
CAN YOU GET CREDIT WITH INSTALLING SOLAR PANELS?
It would be smart to charge it overnight when the price per kilowatt is lower and run them during the day when the price is higher to save money
They're cool.
But cost wise not practical at all, especially in comparison to a gas generator.
Furthermore the solar panel setup you'd have to invest in to keep it charged would be significant.
Solar panels don't bring in that much energy on a small scale.
Eventually you're going to learn, but certainly not this time with your assessment, but good luck to you. 🤣
I wonder what can I use to go off the grid in my apartment, or has anyone installed that before?
Good question!
This compared to 8KW off grid solar with DIY Lifepo4 batteries compares well. Doing proper DIY system with all shunts, safety, proper cabling and managing it costs even more than ready to turn on solution with everything integrated and managed easily with proper software
for $5000, might as well install a whole home standby generator
You forgot to mention the price why is that?
Been trying to figure out the best way to set up alternative power for our house. This is interesting.
Because of how I had it installed I’ve actually been using this every day for two weeks to power my tools outside. It’s super convenient.
Don't buy it think about the less fortunate first
I knew this was going to be an Eocflo product before I even clicked. They are pushing their influencers hard this week just in time for CES. At least 5 channels I follow are pushing this product line this week. I don't know anything about the product, or company but seeing so many channels pimping the same product...that destroys some of the integrity of both Ecoflo and the channels.
So when Ford introduces a new model and all the channels and magazines test it at the same time does it destroy both Ford and the channel’s integrity as well? 🤔
@@HaxmanXTRA yes, it does
its called marketing. you slow?
120v or 240v not both at the same time.
ULTA is so worth it for me. Plug it in and use it. Quiet as a mouse
Where are you? We haven't seen many videos at all in months. Where are you? We miss you.
I’m working on bigger projects for the main channel. I should have a video up in about two weeks. Thank you so much!
this will power your house... for 1 hour. LOL
You can take it with you? If you have an electrician in your area that will be on call! This is out of most people’s budget and you must have internet and a cell phone working to upgrade and operate it ,tell us how long this is going to operate in a grid down situation ? Eco Flow must have a huge budget for advertising this because almost every person I follow on the tube has had this same infomercial on ! It’s not a true off grid solution and at 10 k plus install costs it’s not the choice for anyone but the wealthy people!
Go figure when i go to try and purchase it the code dont work and its over fml.
I was thinking about getting one of these until Hurricane Milton showed me…. No. I have a honda Eu 7000 that runs most of my house on a 10 circuit subpanel. Been out of power now for 6 days. Cost me 4 gallons of fuel every 12 hours of running and it has run nonstop since the storm. It would have cost 20k in batteries to almost come close. The only way I see this working is to have a generator 1/2 of the time charging those batteries. So I save 2 gallons of gas???? For the benefit of a silent night and charging all day on a slower charge setting so it doesn’t trip my generator. Cant see the benefit over a generator for days on in of power. To much $$
Good point but if you ran the generator during the day and battery at night your gas bill is lower and its a nice quiet night.. Just an idea.
Worth a sh*t load of money too.
How much is it
It is beautiful but I would not appreciate it use for its far above my knowledge with all the different types of connections
Just watched Hobotech review of this, he could only pull 6400 watts... anything higher would trip and rest
@restotool You should probably quit watching RUclips all together if you get your panties in a wad that easy. Do you get this upset when all the car channels test a new pickup truck on it’s release date?
He knows much more than me about the technical side of things. I definitely got it higher than that for short periods of time at least. We all had preproduction units with beta firmware so that could have played a part.
WHY are the Anderson Power Poles Stacked and laid on their side???? That's ODD! Normally Andersons are narrow side connected to narrow side. Red on the Right side with the tongue turned up... is the way Ham Radio operators around the world set up for 12V. Those Andersons are stacked wide side connected to wide side which is normally to prevent having 12V connected.... Must be China built???
as it sits here, you still get 100.20 ? volts., or 200.40 volts ?
Meter transfer switch
Sold out
Hahaha, table saw might not get used, but 1100W is a portable A/C, so that’s exactly the draw that needed to be tested.
Did you know batteries die in cold weather You're at it your garage
Cool product, but pretty gross of them to want you to “buy” a $300 coupon to get $1,500 off 🤔 so you’re actually getting $1,200 off. Then they don’t tell you how much it is with their weird “$4,XXX” gimmick. Be up front with your pricing 🙄
It is a little odd but I think what it basically amounts to is running their own kickstarter campaign without using kickstarter.
Less than 2 hrs at 49% when running the entire home...... I'll take a generator I can keep fueled up and going no down time.
Lmao tht intro 😂
I have been told by friends that Ecoflow is awfully buggy after a year.
It's not a generator, it's a battery.
Too expensive and only with a 30A plug ….. Not for me in Canada😊
How are these a better alternative to regular generators. because if your power is out for more than a day you can never recharge them and use them in the meantime. it's such a stupid idea
It's called a solar panel.
One thing about these comments We can have a conversation but it seems like an argument sometimes although its opinions
Awesome video
I have a noisy 12,000 watt propane generator. It burns 1.1 gallons of propane per hour, no matter if the whole house is on, or just the night light in the hallway. To me, that's horrible inefficient. Battery power is the way, you can only use the power needed 10 watts or 5,000 watts. That's all it uses up. Plus my big screen tv doesn't like dirty generator power. I've fried 3 over the last 5yrs before I realized they lied to me about the output power wasn't good enough for electronics, like generac engineer was claiming..... low total harmonic distortion... nope!
Because I saw this, I will definitely buy a backup generator rather than this thing. The price is astronomical and I gotta say you kinda lied about that. The amount of power you get out of that thing is incredibly If you consider the battery is Literally a joke as far as being a real backup For more than 2-3 hours. A backup generator will last for days. That's just another rich man's toy. Ooh shiny
Point to the part of the video where I lied please.
You know, I agree. I spoke with the freedom that comes after watching a RUclips video and discovering i should have never watched it because it was way more expensive than most folks would ever actually be willing to spend.
But there are a lot of rich people out there and I think you served them well.
I can't edit it with these goggles but I will edit it tomorrow so that It doesn't make you feel like I said you lied. After watching the video, I kinda liked you and was just talking to you like a friend. And I kinda felt a twang for being brought in by a title that was attractive since I want a backup generator. But that's on me, And for your heart's sake I sincerely apologize. I absolutely positively do not think you are a liar and actually I think you're quite a nice fellow with a good heart.
The video is actually one of the best I've seen on RUclips. I love your presentation and how you Describe The value this can present.
I get it If you make a lot of money, my friend... to you, this is a marvelous thing. To me it's... Currently an impossibility.
A backup generator would be so much cheaper. I was shocked and felt like Video had led me astray. but you know what? You're right. Even though I meant it as a friendly poke, I apologize.
For me the most important thing in Comparisons of disparate equipment would be price/cost. When I read the price/cost in the comments I was Really disappointed. Your video is so good. It got me very excited.
Actually it's a little bit painful to see such a cool piece of equipment because if I had that kind of money, I would have this stuff all over the place. Little jealous of you, my friend.
But good for you, good on you, And I hope the very best for you and your channel.
I did learn something though And this is what I would do.
I would buy a backup generator and have enough lithium batteries Charged by the backup generatorto use one of these Inverters You showed us to power my house because I have never seen such a solid Amount of a true sinewave power. 6000 watts coming out of an inverter. That's what really impressed me. The backup generator could charge the batteries for me. So they'd be ready when I needed them. I wouldn't have to go out and start the The generator For all those silly little thirty-minute outages that we can get around here. The big ones can be a week or more long So I'll backup generators and absolute necessity.
I'll do my best to edit that tomorrow. I'm not in a position to do it now I'm afraid. For some reason, RUclips does not Always allow edits when you're using an Oculus quest. I'm laid up in bed with a bad back and apologize that I can't take care of it right now... I tried but it failed. I think there's something wrong with the Oculus Quest browser and RUclips working together.
@@HaxmanXTRA
12000 watt portable gas/propane generator under $1000.00
Lasts for years......
7200W peak power would barely power my kitchen... certainly not the 5 tons of AC in the house. Even if it did, with 6,000 WH, it would power it for less than an hour. How is this, "more powerful than anything else on the market" when my 20KW propane powered full auto standby generator meats this thing hands-down? You know how much money it would cost to equal what one can have with a 20KW propane powered generator, auto transfer switch, and a 500 gallon propane tank? hint: even if you maxed this system out, you won't have that.
Oh, but I do have to wait a couple of seconds for the generator to start and transfer the load...
SOLD OUT! 😥
😢 you lost me on less expensive to install. I mean you can grab a 9000 watt gas generator and transfer switch for $3000. Your 4000 watt panels isnt going to do anything if you lost power because of a crazy snow storm.
Beast of all power
Thanks for not calling this a Generator.
The tests you did are all done running without any load put your hand on the suction tube and run a board through the saw it’s not a real test until you are actually using them,also you aren’t honest about how much a generator vs this system costs to install and what about the UL rating?
All good and fine, but this unit costs $6,500 before installation fees. I mean, it does have cool features - but this is the base cost before purchasing extra batteries or solar panels. I’m thinking all inclusive, it ends up being a wash, except this unit is portable.