💳 EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra: • Shop Solar: shopsolarkits.com/collections... • Use Code: THESOLARLAB for $101 Off Your Order Over $2,000 • EcoFlow: shrsl.com/4el4o ☀ Calculate Solar Panel Cost for your House: www.solar-estimate.org/solar-... 🔔 Subscribe to our RUclips Channel: @TheSolarLab 0:00 - Intro 0:54 - 2 Minute Teardown 3:06 - What We Like 3:17 - Pre-Conditioning 3:38 - It's Silent 4:24 - Battery Plug 4:46 - Attention to Detail 5:06 - Peak Shaving 5:48 - 240v 6:10 - 50A Hub 6:32 - What We Don't Like 7:35 - The Debate 8:25 - Pricing Comparison The EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra may sound like the big brother to the top selling Delta Pro we are all familiar with, but this unit lands itself in an ENTIRE new category. Is it a powerful, beast of a unit? Of course! SHOULD YOU BUY IT? That is the real question. When you look at the price of the delta pro Ultra vs a full Custom Solar Kit... things get shaky, there is definitely more bang for you buck out there (full custom home back up, or off-grid solar kits, come with a full roof of panels, and typically a little bit larger inverter and battery bank sizes) however.... the Ultra is the simplest, plug and play solution we have ever seen... We maintain an affiliate relationship with some of the products reviewed, which means we get a small percentage of a sale if you click our links, at no cost to our viewers.
One thing to think about too with the Eco-Flow Delta Pro Ultra versus the all-in-one kit. The Delta Pro Ultra is capable of being removed and put in a car if you need to take off or you move.
I agree with you 100%. I have 18kw worth of eco flow batteries with 8x400w eco flow rigid panels. I could literally take everything with me in 1-2 hrs if I were ever to move. My grid tied system would have to stay on the house. Wish I had waited for this new system 2 yrs ago even though I love the delta pro. The plus with the ultra is able to use more panels.
@@heart4Pahoa no, not in the least. Many people are capable of many things they shouldn't be doing, and vice versa. Portability is not something anyone buying this product will give a fuck about.
As a solar consultant in Puerto Rico It's definitely made for apartments and walk ups 🎉 places where placing solar is impossible. It's the best alternative for that public.
I would say the best part of the unit is you can easily take it with you if you move. It's a big investment and I wouldn't want to leave all of my equipment behind if I bought a new house.
I'm evaluating home backup batteries, without solar panels. Panels are icing on the cake. This system will run my house and I can charge it back up on the grid once the black-out is over. Or if too long, I can plug in my dual-fuel generator for a few hours.
Would be a good fit for taking a single wide trailer house off grid especially if the hot water tank and oven are natural gas and you use mini split 120 volt AC/heat pump systems for the house or you live in a tiny home with one or two 120 volt mini split AC/heat pump systems.
Thank you! The one thing that drives me nuts with EcoFlow is they use proprietary connectors. I'd love to see a 240v charge input with the 240v output. For people in apartments who can't convince the apt to install the Ecoflow sub panel, but could possibly get them to install a quick interconnect plug.
Great review! I do the DIY route myself, something satisfying about designing/building your own systems, you have a deeper understanding about how everything comes into play. But, something like this would simplify things for the wife (At a premium price). Like your style, refreshing.
I just got my Ultra in and running test on my 2 refrigerators and freezer at the same time. Just wanting to see how long one battery will run them. I, like you, wanted the DYI kit because I'm cheep too. But, I have an RV I spend 3 months in the woods during deer season & 3 months at the lake in the summer. I'm 60 & retired. But the flexibility to not pay $50 per night at the lake for a power site & a backup for the house was best for me. I'm going to get 2 of the Zigs or Cigs (sp) 400watt flex roll up panels. Great video man; also do some affiliate links to make some money. You can offer discount codes to us doing that. Everyone has to make money.
So I just installed an emergency sub panel, but decided to go with a predator 5000 for now. Ultimately, I wish to get one of these ebackup solutions. They're just so expensive. When all hell breaks loose, my plan is to have my generator charge the electric backup. Once charged, switch the home over to battery. I'll do this as long as necessary to get us through the outage.
I’m very curious in making a purchase of this product. If you consider doing these tests to help people make a decision. My questions are 1) how fast does the charging take? 2) can it power a whole house and for how long?
I own a Delta Pro, a Bluetti AC200P and a few other smaller all-in-one units, for "convenience..."they are bolt-ons for a much more substantial solar/battery setup. I would caution anyone who takes power backup seriously to not place your entire backup strategy into one of these all-in-one setups. Are they cool? Yep...I may purchase another one at some point. The potential issue/risk (for me) is what to do if any single component fails in one of them (MPPT, Inverter, 12V output, battery cell(s), etc.). For a home backup, I'd use tried and true, stand alone, system components and use these for convenience only... or camping 😀
It's not that hard to hook it up to your Main Control Panel. You have three options: 1) Smart Home Panel 2 2) Interlock Switch 3) Manual Transfer Switch Do your research on the pros/cons of each option and local NEC laws.
Thanks for the video. I have a ef 1200 very old ,got it in '21 to run my tiny home . It did kinda, I couldn't run the washer/dryer and I had to charge it every day to maybe get through the nights. Currently using a Growat 3k a 3500w gas generator for low sun days in the high desert. Would love to have this and 3-4 batteries . I could power the house and the future garage.
An added benefit of this vs the professionally installed set ups is this is mobile, though it's heavy and a pain to move. So if you have a major disaster you can take power with you when fleeing. Also, you don't have to worry about having some "professional" cutting corners or making a mistake. I do want to know how the longevity compares to the professional kits though.
It's modular, that's the reason why it's so popular. Almost the same as computer enthusiast cause we can upgrade or downgrade with ease and not worried about technical jargon to specific people or person.
Have you had a problem with delta pro ultra sold by amazoz? The q/a:"Is ac pass through possible with 120v input? A:Use the c20 outlet for a bypass mode with a 120v input. There is no bypass mode for 240v input. AC output is turned off at this time."
The thing I like about EcoFlow is the price. You can use this beast as a battery backup for your computer. You will not find a PC battery/surge backup device with the wattage output you can get with an EcoFlow any where near that price. The PC marketed devices are 3X the price of EcoFlow. I can power my Verizon Fios, OTN, Router and PC on this thing.
How about just getting a gas generator to charge up the ultra and not have any panels at all. I want ecoflow to ship to Puerto Rico but they don’t. USPS will only ship 70 pounds for about $300 bucks. I could buy the whole unit in PR but the price is double and triple amounts. This is mostly for my other half where she could just flip up a interlock turn of the main and torn on the ultra. Then run the whole house with the 240 L-14 30 Amp plug. Like I have here in NY
How about just getting a gas generator to charge up the ultra and not have any panels at all. I want ecoflow to ship to Puerto Rico but they don’t. USPS will only ship 70 pounds for about $300 bucks. I could buy the whole unit in PR but the price is double and triple amounts.
I'm thinking of adding the Ecoflow smart home panel 2 to the Ultra. Its all very nice plug and play. But I'm not sure what's required to ground and fuse the solar panels before plugging in the mc4 connectors to the Ultra.
Nice review guys. Just curious: I see a red wrench icon on your display. As I understand it, that icon only appears on pre-production review units sent for free as compensation for making a video. If you’re receiving thousands of dollars’ worth of free gear, you're sponsored.
Thank you! & we had about 200 subscribers when we posted this video - I wish it was sponsored😂 That explains the wrench though.. we couldn’t figure out what it was! Not that it’s really anyone’s business, but this specific unit was actually leant to us to film with by some local solar guys!
What are the pass trough charging limits and can one charge the DPU off a portable gas generator from the high Input/Output on the side while at same time powering a 30a 240v load from the 14-30 plugs on the front?
Gasoline Generator, if you are a dinosaur? I think I'm missing something. If these batteries are depleted after a day or so and there is no electricity due to a storm, what alternatives are there outside of gas? And spending thousands on additional batteries. FYI, I can get and store gas and propane on the cheap for longer than any storm will last. PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND.. I HAVE TO BE MISSING SOMETHING
@@AlanMEvans you are correct. I guess it depends where you live.. it seems people in houston and place affected by hurricane and freeze look at things a little different.
If a shtf occurs and goes on for longer than a few weeks, people will be attracted to the loud sound of a gas generators knowing someome has power. Prepare for a lot of unwanted company!!
As the op pointed out, there are other options to Ecoflow that are a lot more cost effective. I think Ecoflow is designed as a more portable power source for camping, sporting events, exhibits, temporary storm power back up, etc. Anyone already owning a solar array setup can add this Ecoflow, but most likely we'd get a Solar Arc hybrid inverter and any batteries, but preferably, LiFePO. The tricky part is wiring it all together, because you need the correct wire and you need to know how to balance the solar panel loads with the battery inputs. It is not hard, but it takes a bit of know-how. You can also get a generator to charge up the batteries, but it is also expensive. BTW, solar panel prices have dropped and use 300W panels can cost less than $50 each. I have a 12KWH system and it would make sense to use the output from the existing inverters to feed the hybrid interter, charge the batteries, and then be happy knowing I am in good shape if there is a storm with more than adequate backup solar.
home depot had this at $2,700 for the 6,000kwh package for a couple hours like a month ago..... still kicking myself for not getting it at that time (at that time I was looking only at low capacity units).
The 'red wrench' on your unsponsored Delta Pro Ultra means it's a preproduction unit that was released before retail sales 🤷 did you just inherit it from another channel or something?
I’m extremely disappointed there is not an adapter for the original Smart Home Panel. In order for me to upgrade to the Delta Pro Ultra, I have to rip out the original Smart Home Panel (SHP) and replace it with the Smart Home Panel 2 (I confirmed this with EcoFlow Customer Support). $3,500 for the new SHP2 (with install) and a loss of $3,500 for the old SHP just doesn’t work. That’s $7,000. There is no upgrade path for me without this loss unless they can provide an adapter. Otherwise a big NO for me on the upgrade.
I just don't get it as a home backup. I want to run my whole house including a/c and you would have to spend an absolute fortune to be able to do this any length of time. What good is an hour or two? I want to love this technology so much, but it just doesn't work as far as dollars for results. My 13kw gas generator runs my house with no problem and only costs $1200. I mean that's a huge difference to me.
If I wanted to power a small shed, off grid mostly with some panels on the roof to recharge. A ductless AC, dehumidifier (Florida), computer and some lights and a few other things. Would You say this model or the last delta pro?
I am getting ready to buy a new home. I live alone, don't know anything about this stuff but want a backup system. Would love to see results after a few months usage before I consider purchasing this.
You guys have a nice set of videos so far. I’m looking forward to your review of the Hysolis Apollo I saw in the background. I’m curious on your thoughts of how the delta pro ultra and the Apollo stack against each other.
Sounds good but do you really want to pay someone to put it all together all those panels on your roof. If one has 3 massive batteries fully charged from the wall outlet it should last 3 to five days. Most grid failures last 3 days.
I've heard that some products- tesla power wall- doesn't play nicely with well pumps, submersible or jet. We just lost our monodrive- pump controller- to a wind event that caused a bunch of micro interruptions (sorry) to our local utility Can you run a test to see if this how this integrates as a surge protected pump power supply and works with a solid state monodrive... there may also ve opportunities to look at how this connects to other farm infrastructure like milking robots or computerized fan/ feed control systems
I'm curious, why didn't you update the firmware before testing? That tool icon on the screen indicates an influencer unit sent out by EcoFlow (not a unit that was purchased). When you update the firmware that icon goes away.
@@TheSolarLab Thanks for explaining. I'm still unsure why you (or your friend) wouldn't have updated the firmware before making a video because EcoFlow did fix a few things that weren't working great on the pre-production units. Also, definitely not trying to be accusatory but curious, are you also borrowing all of the power stations/inverters in the background? Or were those gifted or purchased?
Way too low of solar input. You have to essentially buy at least 2, but probably 3 inverter combos for a true whole home PV setup. At that point the cost is insane compared to the competition because you are buying so much unused redundancy. Also their "Smart Panel" that accepts this is essentially a critical load panel (12 slots) and not a whole home backup. I love Ecoflow in the mobile power space, but they missed the mark on whole home badly.
Could y evaluate how this could be installed and removable at times in all electric RV vans like the Detroit based Grounded 2 or up coming MB Esprinter all wheel drive vans being removable for other uses when necessary and despite price and weight could even recharge a RV battery for range extension beyond 250 minimum for in a pinch? Solar panels also on van roof?
Expensive tho but Yunno You use the L14 Plug just use Plug and Use for less technical guys or use the Smart Home Panel for the other Guys Versatility is good too
I would love one of these due to how clean & quite they operate compared to a gas generator but I see the Delta Pro Ultra 6,000 watt is $6,300 online. A Generac Guardian 18,000-Watt (LP)/17,000-Watt (NG) Air-Cooled Whole House Generator with Wi-Fi and 200-Amp is $5,163 Plus installation. Is there another combination of Delta brand batteries with enough to power a whole house that would be less expensive? I would also want a fuel fired generator, smallest size possible, that could be used the recharge the Delta. During a blizzard or high wind event the solar panels wouldn't cut it for me. Thanks!
I like the idea of this product and its integrated, expandable system approach. I do have one thing that I cannot seem to find a definitive answer on. Can I use my Honda EU2200i generator to charge on the 120 volt charging plug, while connecting the output of the DPU to the generator inlet box on my house? The idea being that under light loads the generator is keeping the DPU topped up, but under heavier loads the DPU can combine battery/generator? That way I could use the DPU for heavy draws, and also extend the useful run time of the generator.
i need this for my solar system, but I can't afford it .. Yet. I am getting solar installed at 37k. This will leave me broke. but I will need to save up 18k to get me one of those that will last me 24 hours or longer. I prefer the 60KwH option but can't afford that either. I need patience. then I can get it. I need it cause i want to be able to go totally off Grid and only have to pay for gas. 900.00 in my Electric bill is about what i currently pay on my Mortgage.
With the full kit that’s a lot of things that can go wrong when you do it yourself and might cost you more money in the end. If you make even a single mistake on the way. Certainly will cost you way more time
Great overview, Thank You - I wonder if you have a video that shows how to connect this unit to the hose electric panel and switch automatically when the power grid fails - Also, ca you show the number of units needed to provide power for a house with 3 refrigerators, water heater, HVAC system, and electric stove and media center... Thank you in advance for your help. PS: My highest monthly usage is 573KWH.
I believe the only way for an "automatic" switch over in the event of power loss from the grid is to use the EcoFlow Smart Home Panel 2 (SHP2). The SHP2 supposedly has an undetectable transfer in the event of a power outage and it has positions for 12 breakers. The panel is installed as a 100 amp sub panel off the main and you can use double breakers in each slot which could theoretically provide 24 circuits in the SHP2 as long as the total working load was within spec of the panel. Each DPU inverter also provides 7200 watts which is 30 amps but the panel will accept connection of up to 3 DPU inverter units for 90 amps combined but that gets expensive. I'm waiting on my order for a DPU with 2 batteries and the SHP2 from Costco and just had an electrician here this week to discuss the installation. I'd do it myself but the local inspector won't give me a permit for this magnitude of work.
Do you think this would work for my food trailer? I don’t know anything about the power setup I have, but I am learning quickly. I think, this actually may make a lot of sense for food truck/trailers as long as I am understanding everything correctly.
Very good video. Maybe a dumb question with today's new battery technology. My neighbor wants to stay away from these for back up power, as he is worried about battery fires. As mentioned, with new battery technology, what is the likelihood of battery fires with these new batts, and inverter setups? Also, so you don't need to use solar to charge these? For the short term, I guess I would just use the grid to charge them, and eventually move to solar, to get off the grid. I own the much smaller Eco Flow River, and charge that with two 110v panels. Thanks again for the good video.
What about the Apollo K5, it’s an all-in-one solution also. I haven’t seen you do a review of this one, as it’s the closest competitor, I think to the Eco flow ultra!
This is what I am waiting for. Apollo seems to have a few features that I am leaning towards. Fast Charging being one of them. I do like the futuristic form factor of the Ultra. I just want to be able to hook up more solar to this system.
@TheSolarLab You made a comment about DP Ultra being in a different category than DPro.What did you mean by that? Is the Delta Pro better for continuous use and DP Ultra better for strictly limited backup use? I didn't quite catch what you meant there. Thanks!
I have just installed a SolarEdge 8.25kw inverter with home battery and backup box. Along with 8.7kw of QCells panels. I can't see how this Ecoflow unit would do what i need
Hi , i have span electric panel which has solar edge pv 40 amp input connected to one of the circuit , is it possible to add delta pro ultra as solar energy passthrough to span panel to smooth out and max consumption of onsite solar energy ?
Do you know if the Delta Pro Ultra works with the Delta Pro accessories? Example Ac alternator charger to charge while driving/ or ev adapter to charge at fast charging stations around the country??
Curious just how many appliances you can run simultaneously with 1x inverter and 2x batteries…to avoid over powering it (and what happens if you do run too much off it??). Will the app warn you before any long term damage is done?
What the best system for me to be able to get enough solar to full a Tesla car up to 100% daily, without pulling from the grid? I drive 240 miles a day from Bakersfield, CA to LAX 5 to 6 days a week and from Bakersfield to city of industry 3 to 4 times a month. From what I’ve seen so far a Tesla isn’t cheap than a civic or hybrid car.
Great video. What I would like for you to test is IF a single inverter will charge 5 batteries fully from only solar (LV & HV) on a daily basis with optimal sunlight? To me the inverter seems that it might be under powered for off grid purposes. This may be designed more for the occasional black out. Thanks!
I am seriously looking at installing the Ultra with 3 extra batteries. I already have 12KW solar array and a 20KW generator. Living so close to the ocean is eating my Genset alive so i have to switch soon for whole house backup. The Genset has a transfer switch so I am wondering where to position EcoFlo transfer switch. It seems every year we have a week long outage. I am thinking 24KW output can be recharged everyday by the solar panels but if there is a week of solid cloud can the generator be started to power the house and at the same time recharge the batteries.
Dabbsson 13.6kw system with 4000w output can be bought for less than £7000 in U.K. it looks a lot better option? It can take 6400w solar input so stacks up really well compared to this ?
I have an existing Ecoflow Power Kit in my van. Do you know if the same cable connectors are used on the Ultra that were used on the Power Kit? would be nice to just slap this baby in and use the cables i already ran for AC in, PV in, DC out , and even my existing 5kwh ecoflow batteries. etc.
I'm considering this unit for daily use to power several circuits in my home (appropriately sized and spec'd). Is it just for home backup or can it/should it be used this way especially considering the life of the batteries? Also, how much ambient heat does it generate, say with one inverter and three batteries working at 50% capacity and frequent cycling...can it be stored in a closet for example w/o the risk of overheating? I'm a novice in this space but learning quickly. Any advice on these questions would be helpful, thanks.
Or one other note if you want to make a test with it. Won't you hook it up to your house show how one battery cannot run your whole house and that pull out fall in power without at least 3 batteries, and you won't have full capacity of power to last all night long or all the zon as it needs to last with all 5 batteries and you can't get the full impact out because it aint gonna run at 7200 W without more than one battery.
Question i have Enphase solar panel system. ( no backup battery generator or anything ).... Can i use this Ecoflow Ultra with my existing Enpahse panels to charge the Ecoflow ultra? I'm not sure if you can answer this. Or can you at least point me in the right direction? Thanks
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0:00 - Intro
0:54 - 2 Minute Teardown
3:06 - What We Like
3:17 - Pre-Conditioning
3:38 - It's Silent
4:24 - Battery Plug
4:46 - Attention to Detail
5:06 - Peak Shaving
5:48 - 240v
6:10 - 50A Hub
6:32 - What We Don't Like
7:35 - The Debate
8:25 - Pricing Comparison
The EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra may sound like the big brother to the top selling Delta Pro we are all familiar with, but this unit lands itself in an ENTIRE new category. Is it a powerful, beast of a unit? Of course! SHOULD YOU BUY IT? That is the real question. When you look at the price of the delta pro Ultra vs a full Custom Solar Kit... things get shaky, there is definitely more bang for you buck out there (full custom home back up, or off-grid solar kits, come with a full roof of panels, and typically a little bit larger inverter and battery bank sizes) however.... the Ultra is the simplest, plug and play solution we have ever seen...
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Manners bro I need a solar generator to run my entire house
One thing to think about too with the Eco-Flow Delta Pro Ultra versus the all-in-one kit. The Delta Pro Ultra is capable of being removed and put in a car if you need to take off or you move.
Wait, you can't move this thing that's on rollers and only weight 70-116 lbs? What???
I agree with you 100%. I have 18kw worth of eco flow batteries with 8x400w eco flow rigid panels. I could literally take everything with me in 1-2 hrs if I were ever to move. My grid tied system would have to stay on the house. Wish I had waited for this new system 2 yrs ago even though I love the delta pro. The plus with the ultra is able to use more panels.
Yes, because lugging around hundreds of pounds of off grid equipment is EXACTLY what people want to do with this product!!!
@@charlieodom9107 you appear to be confusing “capable” with “should”…
@@heart4Pahoa no, not in the least. Many people are capable of many things they shouldn't be doing, and vice versa.
Portability is not something anyone buying this product will give a fuck about.
As a solar consultant in Puerto Rico It's definitely made for apartments and walk ups 🎉 places where placing solar is impossible. It's the best alternative for that public.
I have to deal with WAPA in the USVI. This sounds promising.
@@COMPNETServicesLLC I'm with Power Solar biggest EcoFlow warehouse in Puerto Rico. They love us and have visited quite often because of our sales 💪
I would say the best part of the unit is you can easily take it with you if you move. It's a big investment and I wouldn't want to leave all of my equipment behind if I bought a new house.
100% that's a huge benefit of systems like this!
I'm evaluating home backup batteries, without solar panels. Panels are icing on the cake. This system will run my house and I can charge it back up on the grid once the black-out is over. Or if too long, I can plug in my dual-fuel generator for a few hours.
Like the concept, hopefully battery prices will come down to earth soon.
I can't afford an EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra BUT, after seeing you riding around on your Pro Ultra makes me want one SO much more!!
Would be a good fit for taking a single wide trailer house off grid especially if the hot water tank and oven are natural gas and you use mini split 120 volt AC/heat pump systems for the house or you live in a tiny home with one or two 120 volt mini split AC/heat pump systems.
Thank you! The one thing that drives me nuts with EcoFlow is they use proprietary connectors. I'd love to see a 240v charge input with the 240v output. For people in apartments who can't convince the apt to install the Ecoflow sub panel, but could possibly get them to install a quick interconnect plug.
Can't wait for the upcoming test and review, you answered alot of my questions. Thanks
WOW, that unit is a beast! I have the Ecoflow Delta Max 2000wh and I definitely like it no doubt. Thanks for sharing man!
Great review! I do the DIY route myself, something satisfying about designing/building your own systems, you have a deeper understanding about how everything comes into play. But, something like this would simplify things for the wife (At a premium price). Like your style, refreshing.
This is the route I want to go. How much did you spend if you don’t mind me asking?
I just got my Ultra in and running test on my 2 refrigerators and freezer at the same time. Just wanting to see how long one battery will run them. I, like you, wanted the DYI kit because I'm cheep too. But, I have an RV I spend 3 months in the woods during deer season & 3 months at the lake in the summer. I'm 60 & retired. But the flexibility to not pay $50 per night at the lake for a power site & a backup for the house was best for me. I'm going to get 2 of the Zigs or Cigs (sp) 400watt flex roll up panels. Great video man; also do some affiliate links to make some money. You can offer discount codes to us doing that. Everyone has to make money.
Update?
So I just installed an emergency sub panel, but decided to go with a predator 5000 for now. Ultimately, I wish to get one of these ebackup solutions. They're just so expensive.
When all hell breaks loose, my plan is to have my generator charge the electric backup. Once charged, switch the home over to battery. I'll do this as long as necessary to get us through the outage.
I’m very curious in making a purchase of this product. If you consider doing these tests to help people make a decision. My questions are 1) how fast does the charging take? 2) can it power a whole house and for how long?
can't wait to see the results with the home test, great video 🙌
I own a Delta Pro, a Bluetti AC200P and a few other smaller all-in-one units, for "convenience..."they are bolt-ons for a much more substantial solar/battery setup. I would caution anyone who takes power backup seriously to not place your entire backup strategy into one of these all-in-one setups. Are they cool? Yep...I may purchase another one at some point. The potential issue/risk (for me) is what to do if any single component fails in one of them (MPPT, Inverter, 12V output, battery cell(s), etc.). For a home backup, I'd use tried and true, stand alone, system components and use these for convenience only... or camping 😀
I don't know how serious I can take someone that does solar reviews and doesn't have a secret lab.
Who says we don’t have a secret lab 🤨
lol@@TheSolarLab
Seems like a super well-designed and well thought-out product. The challenge for the “everyday” person is connecting it to your breaker box.
You get the Smart Home Panel 2
It's not that hard to hook it up to your Main Control Panel. You have three options:
1) Smart Home Panel 2
2) Interlock Switch
3) Manual Transfer Switch
Do your research on the pros/cons of each option and local NEC laws.
@@Pk3_Garage I like the interlock switch the best also lowest cost. I am thinking of this unit with 3 batteries from Costco for $8999
Thanks for the video. I have a ef 1200 very old ,got it in '21 to run my tiny home . It did kinda, I couldn't run the washer/dryer and I had to charge it every day to maybe get through the nights. Currently using a Growat 3k a 3500w gas generator for low sun days in the high desert. Would love to have this and 3-4 batteries . I could power the house and the future garage.
Nice video I like that you're not sponsored I will subscribe for sure...... Tear it down I want to see the inside!
Ecoflo has a video on that.
Great video, honest review. Thank you
An added benefit of this vs the professionally installed set ups is this is mobile, though it's heavy and a pain to move. So if you have a major disaster you can take power with you when fleeing.
Also, you don't have to worry about having some "professional" cutting corners or making a mistake.
I do want to know how the longevity compares to the professional kits though.
They guarantee a minimum 10 years.
It's modular, that's the reason why it's so popular. Almost the same as computer enthusiast cause we can upgrade or downgrade with ease and not worried about technical jargon to specific people or person.
Dinos carry around gas generators for a reason, proven to work. 😂 Great video
Great review and looking forward to you plugging into home situation.
We are usually 2 years behind in Australia so it's not been distributed here yet
Have you had a problem with delta pro ultra sold by amazoz? The q/a:"Is ac pass through possible with 120v input? A:Use the c20 outlet for a bypass mode with a 120v input. There is no bypass mode for 240v input. AC output is turned off at this time."
The thing I like about EcoFlow is the price. You can use this beast as a battery backup for your computer. You will not find a PC battery/surge backup device with the wattage output you can get with an EcoFlow any where near that price. The PC marketed devices are 3X the price of EcoFlow. I can power my Verizon Fios, OTN, Router and PC on this thing.
Great video. If I had to connect it to solar panels outside in my backyard can you recommend a 100 ft cable that I would need to run it.
How about just getting a gas generator to charge up the ultra and not have any panels at all.
I want ecoflow to ship to Puerto Rico but they don’t.
USPS will only ship 70 pounds for about $300 bucks.
I could buy the whole unit in PR but the price is double and triple amounts.
This is mostly for my other half where she could just flip up a interlock turn of the main and torn on the ultra. Then run the whole house with the 240 L-14 30 Amp plug. Like I have here in NY
How about just getting a gas generator to charge up the ultra and not have any panels at all.
I want ecoflow to ship to Puerto Rico but they don’t.
USPS will only ship 70 pounds for about $300 bucks.
I could buy the whole unit in PR but the price is double and triple amounts.
I'm thinking of adding the Ecoflow smart home panel 2 to the Ultra. Its all very nice plug and play. But I'm not sure what's required to ground and fuse the solar panels before plugging in the mc4 connectors to the Ultra.
Nice review guys. Just curious: I see a red wrench icon on your display. As I understand it, that icon only appears on pre-production review units sent for free as compensation for making a video. If you’re receiving thousands of dollars’ worth of free gear, you're sponsored.
Thank you! & we had about 200 subscribers when we posted this video - I wish it was sponsored😂 That explains the wrench though.. we couldn’t figure out what it was! Not that it’s really anyone’s business, but this specific unit was actually leant to us to film with by some local solar guys!
remain calm todd
Thank you so much
What are the pass trough charging limits and can one charge the DPU off a portable gas generator from the high Input/Output on the side while at same time powering a 30a 240v load from the 14-30 plugs on the front?
Gasoline Generator, if you are a dinosaur? I think I'm missing something. If these batteries are depleted after a day or so and there is no electricity due to a storm, what alternatives are there outside of gas? And spending thousands on additional batteries. FYI, I can get and store gas and propane on the cheap for longer than any storm will last. PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND.. I HAVE TO BE MISSING SOMETHING
Most power outages are brief. And if it’s extended, that is where the solar power hookup comes into play.
@@AlanMEvans you are correct. I guess it depends where you live.. it seems people in houston and place affected by hurricane and freeze look at things a little different.
If a shtf occurs and goes on for longer than a few weeks, people will be attracted to the loud sound of a gas generators knowing someome has power.
Prepare for a lot of unwanted company!!
I agree
As the op pointed out, there are other options to Ecoflow that are a lot more cost effective. I think Ecoflow is designed as a more portable power source for camping, sporting events, exhibits, temporary storm power back up, etc. Anyone already owning a solar array setup can add this Ecoflow, but most likely we'd get a Solar Arc hybrid inverter and any batteries, but preferably, LiFePO. The tricky part is wiring it all together, because you need the correct wire and you need to know how to balance the solar panel loads with the battery inputs. It is not hard, but it takes a bit of know-how. You can also get a generator to charge up the batteries, but it is also expensive. BTW, solar panel prices have dropped and use 300W panels can cost less than $50 each. I have a 12KWH system and it would make sense to use the output from the existing inverters to feed the hybrid interter, charge the batteries, and then be happy knowing I am in good shape if there is a storm with more than adequate backup solar.
home depot had this at $2,700 for the 6,000kwh package for a couple hours like a month ago..... still kicking myself for not getting it at that time (at that time I was looking only at low capacity units).
The 'red wrench' on your unsponsored Delta Pro Ultra means it's a preproduction unit that was released before retail sales 🤷 did you just inherit it from another channel or something?
We actually did get it leant to us by some local solar guys! We couldn’t figure out what the wrench meant until you guys started commenting😂
@@TheSolarLab if you upgrade the firmware to the latest version the wrench on the display will go away.
I’m extremely disappointed there is not an adapter for the original Smart Home Panel. In order for me to upgrade to the Delta Pro Ultra, I have to rip out the original Smart Home Panel (SHP) and replace it with the Smart Home Panel 2 (I confirmed this with EcoFlow Customer Support). $3,500 for the new SHP2 (with install) and a loss of $3,500 for the old SHP just doesn’t work. That’s $7,000. There is no upgrade path for me without this loss unless they can provide an adapter. Otherwise a big NO for me on the upgrade.
Yea we were also sad to see the change… huge pain for anyone who has already invested in some equipment🤦🏼♂️
@@TheSolarLab Like you said, it's they're following Apple's model
I just don't get it as a home backup. I want to run my whole house including a/c and you would have to spend an absolute fortune to be able to do this any length of time. What good is an hour or two? I want to love this technology so much, but it just doesn't work as far as dollars for results. My 13kw gas generator runs my house with no problem and only costs $1200. I mean that's a huge difference to me.
If I wanted to power a small shed, off grid mostly with some panels on the roof to recharge. A ductless AC, dehumidifier (Florida), computer and some lights and a few other things. Would You say this model or the last delta pro?
I am getting ready to buy a new home. I live alone, don't know anything about this stuff but want a backup system. Would love to see results after a few months usage before I consider purchasing this.
Probably best to just buy a good generator for your home. I love the idea but these are just way too expensive right now
Test if the Eco-FLow Delta Pro Ultra can be tested to run a freezer and for what length of time.
So how do you connect solar panels to the unit? What all do you need?
You guys have a nice set of videos so far. I’m looking forward to your review of the Hysolis Apollo I saw in the background. I’m curious on your thoughts of how the delta pro ultra and the Apollo stack against each other.
Hmm, One is a 7K and the other is a 5K and they are about the same price. I would not need any more than that as far as comparison.
Thank you!! We plan to make that video in the coming months, the Apollo is such a unique unit🤘🏼
“How does an inverted work? How do you wire this to that? Who cares? Lift the flap 240” 😂
Sounds good but do you really want to pay someone to put it all together all those panels on your roof.
If one has 3 massive batteries fully charged from the wall outlet it should last 3 to five days.
Most grid failures last 3 days.
I've heard that some products- tesla power wall- doesn't play nicely with well pumps, submersible or jet.
We just lost our monodrive- pump controller- to a wind event that caused a bunch of micro interruptions (sorry) to our local utility
Can you run a test to see if this how this integrates as a surge protected pump power supply and works with a solid state monodrive...
there may also ve opportunities to look at how this connects to other farm infrastructure like milking robots or computerized fan/ feed control systems
Great vid boys!
I'm curious, why didn't you update the firmware before testing? That tool icon on the screen indicates an influencer unit sent out by EcoFlow (not a unit that was purchased). When you update the firmware that icon goes away.
We were leant the unit from some friends and had no idea what the wrench meant until people started commenting 😂
@@TheSolarLab Thanks for explaining. I'm still unsure why you (or your friend) wouldn't have updated the firmware before making a video because EcoFlow did fix a few things that weren't working great on the pre-production units. Also, definitely not trying to be accusatory but curious, are you also borrowing all of the power stations/inverters in the background? Or were those gifted or purchased?
With my Honda EU 2000i propane generator and a 100lb propane tank, no need for solar panels.
Excellent review thanks.
Way too low of solar input. You have to essentially buy at least 2, but probably 3 inverter combos for a true whole home PV setup. At that point the cost is insane compared to the competition because you are buying so much unused redundancy. Also their "Smart Panel" that accepts this is essentially a critical load panel (12 slots) and not a whole home backup. I love Ecoflow in the mobile power space, but they missed the mark on whole home badly.
Could y evaluate how this could be installed and removable at times in all electric RV vans like the Detroit based Grounded 2 or up coming MB Esprinter all wheel drive vans being removable for other uses when necessary and despite price and weight could even recharge a RV battery for range extension beyond 250 minimum for in a pinch? Solar panels also on van roof?
Expensive tho but Yunno
You use the L14 Plug just use Plug and Use for less technical guys or use the Smart Home Panel for the other Guys
Versatility is good too
I would love one of these due to how clean & quite they operate compared to a gas generator but I see the Delta Pro Ultra 6,000 watt is $6,300 online. A Generac Guardian 18,000-Watt (LP)/17,000-Watt (NG) Air-Cooled Whole House Generator with Wi-Fi and 200-Amp is $5,163 Plus installation. Is there another combination of Delta brand batteries with enough to power a whole house that would be less expensive? I would also want a fuel fired generator, smallest size possible, that could be used the recharge the Delta. During a blizzard or high wind event the solar panels wouldn't cut it for me. Thanks!
Can you connect the Ecoflow alternator charger to the ultra?
I like the idea of this product and its integrated, expandable system approach. I do have one thing that I cannot seem to find a definitive answer on. Can I use my Honda EU2200i generator to charge on the 120 volt charging plug, while connecting the output of the DPU to the generator inlet box on my house? The idea being that under light loads the generator is keeping the DPU topped up, but under heavier loads the DPU can combine battery/generator? That way I could use the DPU for heavy draws, and also extend the useful run time of the generator.
i need this for my solar system, but I can't afford it .. Yet. I am getting solar installed at 37k. This will leave me broke. but I will need to save up 18k to get me one of those that will last me 24 hours or longer. I prefer the 60KwH option but can't afford that either. I need patience. then I can get it. I need it cause i want to be able to go totally off Grid and only have to pay for gas. 900.00 in my Electric bill is about what i currently pay on my Mortgage.
With the full kit that’s a lot of things that can go wrong when you do it yourself and might cost you more money in the end. If you make even a single mistake on the way. Certainly will cost you way more time
I'd love to see it discharging 240V while hooked up to a generator. None of the videos I've seen show whether that is possible!
Great overview, Thank You - I wonder if you have a video that shows how to connect this unit to the hose electric panel and switch automatically when the power grid fails - Also, ca you show the number of units needed to provide power for a house with 3 refrigerators, water heater, HVAC system, and electric stove and media center... Thank you in advance for your help.
PS: My highest monthly usage is 573KWH.
I believe the only way for an "automatic" switch over in the event of power loss from the grid is to use the EcoFlow Smart Home Panel 2 (SHP2). The SHP2 supposedly has an undetectable transfer in the event of a power outage and it has positions for 12 breakers. The panel is installed as a 100 amp sub panel off the main and you can use double breakers in each slot which could theoretically provide 24 circuits in the SHP2 as long as the total working load was within spec of the panel. Each DPU inverter also provides 7200 watts which is 30 amps but the panel will accept connection of up to 3 DPU inverter units for 90 amps combined but that gets expensive. I'm waiting on my order for a DPU with 2 batteries and the SHP2 from Costco and just had an electrician here this week to discuss the installation. I'd do it myself but the local inspector won't give me a permit for this magnitude of work.
@robertbaron3242 thank you for your reply and insights, it helps me greatly.
Do you think this would work for my food trailer?
I don’t know anything about the power setup I have, but I am learning quickly. I think, this actually may make a lot of sense for food truck/trailers as long as I am understanding everything correctly.
what a funny ass video. I loved it. Great job.
Very good video. Maybe a dumb question with today's new battery technology. My neighbor wants to stay away from these for back up power, as he is worried about battery fires. As mentioned, with new battery technology, what is the likelihood of battery fires with these new batts, and inverter setups? Also, so you don't need to use solar to charge these? For the short term, I guess I would just use the grid to charge them, and eventually move to solar, to get off the grid. I own the much smaller Eco Flow River, and charge that with two 110v panels. Thanks again for the good video.
I also would like a home solar generator , but am worried about lithium battery fires. The one I've seen from EVs are horrifying
What about the Apollo K5, it’s an all-in-one solution also. I haven’t seen you do a review of this one, as it’s the closest competitor, I think to the Eco flow ultra!
Stay tuned for a review of that unit ⚡️
This is what I am waiting for. Apollo seems to have a few features that I am leaning towards. Fast Charging being one of them. I do like the futuristic form factor of the Ultra. I just want to be able to hook up more solar to this system.
5600W of solar is actually quite a bit and seems like a good size for this unit.
@TheSolarLab You made a comment about DP Ultra being in a different category than DPro.What did you mean by that? Is the Delta Pro better for continuous use and DP Ultra better for strictly limited backup use? I didn't quite catch what you meant there. Thanks!
I have just installed a SolarEdge 8.25kw inverter with home battery and backup box. Along with 8.7kw of QCells panels. I can't see how this Ecoflow unit would do what i need
Heres a question: Why would anyone buy the Ecoflow power kit, when they can get more juice outta the Delta ultra for the same money?
Hi , i have span electric panel which has solar edge pv 40 amp input connected to one of the circuit , is it possible to add delta pro ultra as solar energy passthrough to span panel to smooth out and max consumption of onsite solar energy ?
Do you know if the Delta Pro Ultra works with the Delta Pro accessories? Example Ac alternator charger to charge while driving/ or ev adapter to charge at fast charging stations around the country??
Curious just how many appliances you can run simultaneously with 1x inverter and 2x batteries…to avoid over powering it (and what happens if you do run too much off it??). Will the app warn you before any long term damage is done?
we need this in europe please
Good day
I would like to know can the eco flow be change using win turbine
So what do we need to do for a solar array to keep this powered if no grid power for recharging?
Great Info Great Video 👍
What the best system for me to be able to get enough solar to full a Tesla car up to 100% daily, without pulling from the grid? I drive 240 miles a day from Bakersfield, CA to LAX 5 to 6 days a week and from Bakersfield to city of industry 3 to 4 times a month. From what I’ve seen so far a Tesla isn’t cheap than a civic or hybrid car.
Great video. What I would like for you to test is IF a single inverter will charge 5 batteries fully from only solar (LV & HV) on a daily basis with optimal sunlight? To me the inverter seems that it might be under powered for off grid purposes. This may be designed more for the occasional black out. Thanks!
What is the amount if I want to buy it please
I am seriously looking at installing the Ultra with 3 extra batteries. I already have 12KW solar array and a 20KW generator. Living so close to the ocean is eating my Genset alive so i have to switch soon for whole house backup. The Genset has a transfer switch so I am wondering where to position EcoFlo transfer switch. It seems every year we have a week long outage. I am thinking 24KW output can be recharged everyday by the solar panels but if there is a week of solid cloud can the generator be started to power the house and at the same time recharge the batteries.
Can the ultra be charged with the car's cigarette lighter port to the ultra via anderson port?
Dabbsson 13.6kw system with 4000w output can be bought for less than £7000 in U.K. it looks a lot better option? It can take 6400w solar input so stacks up really well compared to this ?
The design looks like old cassette Boombox 😢
I have an existing Ecoflow Power Kit in my van. Do you know if the same cable connectors are used on the Ultra that were used on the Power Kit? would be nice to just slap this baby in and use the cables i already ran for AC in, PV in, DC out , and even my existing 5kwh ecoflow batteries. etc.
I'm considering this unit for daily use to power several circuits in my home (appropriately sized and spec'd). Is it just for home backup or can it/should it be used this way especially considering the life of the batteries? Also, how much ambient heat does it generate, say with one inverter and three batteries working at 50% capacity and frequent cycling...can it be stored in a closet for example w/o the risk of overheating? I'm a novice in this space but learning quickly. Any advice on these questions would be helpful, thanks.
Do you have portable options for renters??
I'd love to see it do some peak shaving
How does it take to recharge
Or one other note if you want to make a test with it. Won't you hook it up to your house show how one battery cannot run your whole house and that pull out fall in power without at least 3 batteries, and you won't have full capacity of power to last all night long or all the zon as it needs to last with all 5 batteries and you can't get the full impact out because it aint gonna run at 7200 W without more than one battery.
can you charge a Tesla with it?
18k growatt or Delta Ultra?
I would probably get an all in one 10wk inverter for about $1800 and 2 of the lifepower 4 batteries and call it a day.
Question i have Enphase solar panel system. ( no backup battery generator or anything ).... Can i use this Ecoflow Ultra with my existing Enpahse panels to charge the Ecoflow ultra? I'm not sure if you can answer this. Or can you at least point me in the right direction? Thanks
my rv takes a 50 amp plug this work?
Not what YOU were expecting ;-)
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Does?
Anybody know if you can use the smart 1800 watt dual fuel smart generator to charge the ultra
Great video! Your subscriber number will be growing fast
Thank you ⚡️⚡️⚡️