Anker F3800 - I Think Anker Just KILLED the Competition
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2024
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0:00 - Intro
0:47 - 60 Second Teardown
1:58 - AC Coupling
2:25 - Favourite Features
5:50 - What we Don't Like
7:17 - The Hidden Light
7:40 - Comparisons
10:51 - Should you buy it?
The Anker F3800, This is honestly an underdog in the Portable Power world.. After our recent experience with the EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra, we didn't expect this unit to be as impressive as it was! It's still relatively new, and I'm sure it will work its way into everyones list of competitors - but with a 50A 240V plug, a 6,000w inverter and a ton of little features that you get when go Anker - we were pleasantly surprised!
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0:00 - Intro
0:47 - 60 Second Teardown
1:58 - AC Coupling
2:25 - Favourite Features
5:50 - What we Don't Like
7:17 - The Hidden Light
7:40 - Comparisons
10:51 - Should you buy it?
The Anker F3800, This is honestly an underdog in the Portable Power world.. After our recent experience with the EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra, we didn't expect this unit to be as impressive as it was! It's still relatively new, and I'm sure it will work its way into everyones list of competitors - but with a 50A 240V plug, a 6,000w inverter and a ton of little features that you get when go Anker - we were pleasantly surprised!
We maintain an affiliate relationship with some of the products reviewed, which means we get a small percentage of a sale if you click our links, at no cost to our viewers.
Here are a few tests I would like to see: 1. Connect the unit to a refrigrator and freezer and see how it runs for unit till the battery is drained. 2. Connect the unit to high power tools and see it can start them ( saws , pressure washers, shop vacs) 3. Test and show the fastest way to charge the battery ( gas generater, solar ,ac, combined and etc...)
.... and desktop computers or laptop.
The fastest way is if you can get all 2400w into the solar inputs, the easiest way is to use the AC, the limit there is 1800w. You can not charge AC and solar at the same time, think the solar will take priority (but don't quote me on that).
Yeah this video don't shown any of that. Pointless to watch.
@@mobileplayers5008 Any of that? This video told you the unit's total capacity and that it's capable of going up to 53kwh. This unit of measurement is not Anker-specific. Do you want to know how long your specific fridge will last? Measure how many kWh your fridge uses in 24 hours, and you will have your answer. Also, 6k watts with 9k surge will easily start saws, pressure washers, and shop vacs. He demonstrated it running 3.2k watts and that already would take care of the all the above items. your typical home AC plug is rated for 1800-3000 watts depending if you have 15 or 20 amp breakers. cheers!
Also try and level-2 charge a car @ 30a or something that you can keep consistent between tests.
I was able to get mine to 6000 watts output at 240volts backing up my house. No issues! Amazing.
hey. sorry I don't understand you can run 6000w at one time? and how long can it run 6000w for?
@@Chris-zu4es If drawing the full 6000w, it will only last around 30-minutes.
At $4000, this is NOT cheap. However, if you're not familiar with electrical, this is amongst the best units I've seen that allow for both expansion and easy stow-away capability.
Me? I'd grab an EG4 6K and a few 48v/100Ah batteries but I'm comfortable wiring electrical. For someone just looking for a skoolie or CYA system, this is a great option.
Now that sounded like a good, honest review, very good.
Looking forward to your video featuring the Smart Home Power Kit. I want to see how it compares to the EcoFlow Smart Home Panel 2.
Great video man ! Love content like this ! Would love to see some more anker / Ecoflow product reviews
Put it in the electrical bay of a mid size 50amp class A motorhome to see it power the rv for a few days of boon docking
I was wondering what you have been doing with youtube now. This is the first time this channel has come up in my feed. Never seen any advertisement from you talking about this channel. Good for you hope this helps you to stay committed
We haven't told anyone yet actually LOL. we have just been quietly building this, but thank you! this is definitely something different, but also exciting and gives me the chance to have a business outside of cars & have them be fun, and for me again!
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Many thanks for ALL THAT INFORMATION 👍👍
I like how you explain that the fans kick on and kick off, yeah it's called the unit getting warm so it activates the fans. Even EcoFlow units do it even until the smallest loads.
I have always found ANKER to be an honest brand that doesn't lie on their specs. This would run my whole house, just not for very long.. But my house only has one big 240v load, a 3 ton geothermal heat pump and it only requires about 20amps (4800w) to start up and just a few amps to run..
Great video review.
The biggest disappointment is that while in use, if you are recharging from AC (say with a generator) you are limited to 120v and 1440w. Makes it a no go for recharging through the AC and maintaining whole home backup. So you must use the XT60 solar inputs and the limit is 1200w per port (at 60v or lower). With the AC charging limit, would have been nice for the solar ports to be more capable. With 2 units coupled together (with the yet to be released dual power cable), you can recharge at 4800w total which is at least acceptable. However in my own testing I have been unable to charge both solar ports on one F3800 with one DC device (like the EG4 chargeverter) which is another limitation. I was hoping to use one Chargeverter at 48v100a to charge all 4 solar ports on my two F3800's at the same time.
When my old ear buds went TU I randomly chose Ankers to replace them. They run almost a full 8hr day and when they die they charge enough in 2 or 3 min to go the rest of the day plus. So when my bt speaker (Bose) crapped out, I figured I'd try theirs. Again for the battery capacity listed I'm impressed. If any of my less technical friends asked I'd recomend this all in one unit.
OTOH, It's way overkill in outputs for my needs.
Thanks for the good review. The only problem with this unit and its little brother, the F2000/767 old the difficulty getting a full solar charge into it if you don't want to splurge on Anker"s very expensive solar panels. I haven't found any other way to get 1000 watts off other panels.
You had me at “flaccid doinker”😅
Thanks!
This will be fantastic to wear as a back pack for longer VR play sessions.
This a joke right 💀
@@cooldudecrashlion Yes, very much so 🙂 I estimate it could run a Quest 3 for nearly 20 days straight. 24hrs a day.
For $4K, I can buy a lot of generator
Yup, I got a Generac 7676 GP8000E 8kw for $1200, and it works in -10F deg weather.
@@_specialneeds I love Generac
@@_specialneeds And can power all through the night with full load without the need of charging during the day with expensive solar panels.
@@robertdaonebut natural gas wont last forever
and how long before you have burned 4 grand of fuel
Over panel it’s solar input. If it tolerates it, that could be useful for areas with lots of clouds.
I like that this is 240 capable right out of the box. I’m thinking of a generator backup for critical loads especially overnight for fans and low power loads. Run things first thing than charge up via generator. Looks like a good alternative to 2 eco flow deltas and the 240 setup.
Sure does!
Pls do a video on the Anker Solix x1! Really enjoy your videos! hopefully you can make a vid on the Anker Solix x1
I was excited about the Anker, especially its form factor, but the downer for me is it’s thirsty AC inverter. Not good for something that proposes to be a home backup product with a UPS.
Hey y’all seem like good people, thanks for your thoughts
Great video. I had not realised that Anker was so competitive vs Ecoflow. Just got myself a Delta Pro + exp battery and I think this would have better suited my needs.
The fan cutting on and off is an issue of hysteresis (how long the device has to be at a certain temperature before the fans are allowed to come on). Anker should allow us to program the firmware fan curve over USB from PC or over WIFI from a phone or tablet. This way, you can adjust (within reason) at what temperatures the fans cut on or off, how long they must be at that temperature before the fans come on, and how long they stay on once on.
Great video! Could you please speak to the suitability of these units for marine/RV use; are they able to handle sustained motion and vibration from a moving vehicle?
Thanks
Crazy suggestion on this product: Not whole home backup, whole Apartment backup / peak shaving. The limited solar input would be fine for what you could install off the patio of your apartment, the limited battery size would be great to drive your window AC as well as your fridge. If your apartment has sense they'd install the integration panel so you could just bring your own anker and pop it in place.
Great review! Have you done any testing any of the solid state units starting to hit the market? I was looking at the Yoshino. Thanks!
I think you missed a lot of stuff which I've found in other reviews. 1. the very limited solar input with a max voltage of 60V @ 25amps which means you'll have to parallel a lot of panels and most of them have a max voltage of 40 odd volts. Which means you're limited to about 1200W of solar. 2. If you have solar and mains connected at the same time it turns off the DC input. Which means it can't prioritize solar charging. 3. If you have it plugged into 120V it only supports the three 120V outputs as a UPS. The 240V outputs don't work at all. 4. The maximum throughput it supports on those 120V plugs is 1440W - the reasoning behind this is they want to keep the breaker @80% capacity. But what it demonstrates is they can't add the battery and inverter to the AC input. It's one or the other. It seems like this unit is one or the other - DC via an inverter or AC. I don't understand the logic.
1200 watts on each XT60 connector equals 2400
Test some heavy construction tools table saw chop saw jack hammers mixing drills curious how this would be in a job trailer or work van
I almost pulled the trigger and bought this while the kickstarter was going on, but I ran into some big dental expenses and decided to wait. I’m still thinking about getting one, but I already have the Anker 767 Powerhouse (F2000) and need to rethink my needs before buying. I might just get a 2nd F2000 and call it a day, as I’m planning to do a lot of traveling and camping with 1000 watts of solar panels on my truck and trailer.
I am almost in the same situation as you. I already got the F2600. I connected it to a power inlet and it runs my whole house surprisingly perfect without any 240V appliances. I like the F3800 and the 240V but I love the portability of the F2600.
@@issameQ We have the F2600 as well via special Costco deal.
@@Darkk6969 Great unit. Costco Next pulled the deal of the decade on F2600. 3k for F2600 extension battery and the 400w solar. Can’t beat that no matter how much you try.
@@issameQ Yep, that is the exact deal I took when it was available. Great buy at the time! Also, my Citi Costco credit card let me split the payments up for three months without fees or interest which made it an easy purchase for me.
@@Darkk6969 don’t forget the 2% back from Costco as well as the 2% from Citi. That’s an easy $200. Congrats. Enjoy your purchase man.
yeah these things are cool, especially the Ecoflow Ultra, but in reality you need a gas, diesel, or propane generator for any long term needs...more than a day a two. Get a duel fuel, run it on propane, and you won't have the problem of gas sitting for a long time. Imagine, you buy a predator, Westinghouse, or champion 12500 duel fuel for 1500 max. Done. These power stations are just a shiny object. Good for Van Life, I own two Ecoflows, but they are not serious for home backup.
Is there a way to plug the giant add-on batteries to their other systems (like the little C1000)? I'm guessing it would have to be via the XT60, but maybe you could use the cable too?
$34.99??? That's pretty cheap.
Would like to see how fast it self discharges sitting idle with no load and no charge.
If it sucks itself dry in a couple of days - that could be a concern in some applications.
When will you test the new Energizer solar power unit? And which solar panels are best to use with the Energizer?
2400 watts should be enough to keep the unit and an add-on battery or two charged. That probably covers the vast majority of users.
Serious question: I renovated a 1998 30 amp Class A RV 30 about 7 years ago to be able to work remote anywhere/everywhere. Love it - especially now with Starlink. That said, it has the typical Onan gas generator that at this point in it's life is pretty much useless due to a tech years ago messing it up. A project this summer is to pull that out, ditch it, and retrofit the space as an additional basement storage compartment. I am static right now in a tiny home community until end of the year, but plan to start traveling again after that. Just now starting with solar (two 100w flex mono panels for my Jackery 1000), but plan to add more, as much as possible, to be able to work off-grid. This seems like a good fit for that use case, yes?
Depends on your power need and budget. If you need 6000 watt then this is the one. But if you only need 3000 watt then get something like the ecoflow pro or anker solix 2500. Now if you are willing to build your own system then i recommond the victron 3000 or eg4 6000. It is cheaper and easiest to add more batteries.
I currently have a victron 1200w inverter that i have added 4 batteries to it over 2 years. I'm planing to upgrade to eg4 3000w ($700) and 2xeg4 48v battery ($2400) for 10kw of energy storage.
The fan kicking on/off is because some nimrod on the firmware dev side forgot to set a minimum runtime and adjust the temp parameters.
Which do you suggest for a food truck? It’s an interesting test, but I need to be able to pull -3000 watts for ~7 hours.
Thanks for information refrigerator
Gonna have to see it compared to one of the newer eco flow models.
Real review - Tear down, hack batteries into it to extend capacity at a lower price point than expansion batteries etc...
This is a great option for home owners but those renting not an obvious one? can always work in the appartment for the frige and freezer if that is the case. on individual use.Still looks like a poweerfull quiet option
With small children climbing & pulling everything in their reach, I would not stack them tall due to fall risks & also anchor all units. And secure cables & units to wall. Or lock up in a cage.
Testing: Would like to see it run a refrigerator, freezer and a heater and for how long it would last.
Would like to know does it really recharge, and how long it takes, and the free solar panel? Can it recharge while items are using power?
Can it do pass through charging with a small generator like the Eco Flow ?
Any of these things worth their salt can as its a standard now. You would just need to make sure that it supports slow charging via AC.
I love your channel
I was considering this for a well pump backup and during extended periods I figured I could charge it with a small inverter generator, but it's my understanding that it can't be charged with the 120volt input while it is providing 240volt power. Can you verify that is the case?
Theres the new Yoshino solid state ones that just came out which I'd argue offer a better glimpse into the future
Can you run a Welding Machine off of this? Specifically the Lincoln MP210
It uses a thermostat to run the fan. That’s why it kicks on and off
Can you plug it dirctly on a socket so it feeds the house? or just the appliances connected directly to it?
Great video review, thank you! Can you help identify best solar panels to use with this unit besides the portable ones due to the limited 60V solar input? On some reviews I’ve seen they using the F3800 unit with 3 panels in parallel that are LG 365W each. 47.7VOC, 9.39Imp total of 28.17 amps potential using two 3 panel strings to connect of the F3800. Any thoughts if these will work and your panel recommendations?
I have the 767 and everyone with one is trying to find panels that will max the solar without paying for their insanely priced panels. I hate how crazy they price them.
I need a unit that will work and (even better) charge in sub-zero (F) conditions. Or at least protect the battery from damage when it gets that cold in my garage in the winter. How well does this work in the cold?
The 240v home panel question: Two Delta Pro's connected by the Voltage Hub to 4 prong cable to supply 240v to home breaker panel does NOT draw evenly from both batteries when running whole house panel. Feeding each leg of the breaker panel in accordance with the "imbalance" in your home appliance setup, bla bla. will this setup have any similar imbalance on draw when supplying 240v using the 4-prong cable to power the home breaker panel?
Well the easy 'cure' for imbalance is to balance the loads on the busbars.
So much power in that office...are all those charged... would last a lifetime
The closest things are probably the Bluetti EP500 and EP500 Pro, which were good in their day (and as this sector is moving so fast that was like 18 months ago), but now have comparatively feeble inverters and no expansion options. I'm surprised there isn't already an EP500 Max with a 5000w inverter and expansion ports, to be honest.
Ok, i don't know much about this devices but if i have it connected to my house power so it can kick in when the power is down won't the battery in it wear out? Or does it have some kind of technology that makes sure the battery isn't constantly getting charged.
How about a test charging the unit below 60 degrees F. I heard that it limits the charging.
Hi,Anker f3800 what power is inverter when without additional battery?It is definitely not 6000w isn't it?
Can power a AC all day ? Is it enough to be completly off grid for small hone ?
I am looking at using this in a Van/camper... No solid cabinets in the van, still need it to be able to use as a cargo van when needed. So I like the portability of the unit. How long will it run a small refrigerator and if so for how long. Can you charge it with DC power as you drive. Great video!
probably run a camper fridge for about 7 days 3840 wh / (45ah per day x 12v)
The cost for two of these can give you an entire solar power system for a house here in Jamaica
Can you guy do a review on the Aviva Portable Power Station 470 wh, please and thanks
I really want to see a test from a work van perspective. With 200w of solar, and fully charged power tool batteris and the F3800. How long can I power and work with my power tools for. Needles to say, I work in a lot of remote locations and wish to partially replace a generator.
how many watts can you output at one time?
and how long can it output let's say 1000w before the battery runs out?
Hey do you think this will work for a server rack with a battery back up?
What is the most "portable" solar panels you've come across?
And whether it's the Anker F3800 or the EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra.. until nuclear microreactors (like Radiant) are available, it seems you you still need a gas/propane solution. Any recommendations? Champion 2.5KW Dual Fuel Inverter/Generator? Honda EU2200iTAN ?
I have an idea for a test! Let's say you want to host an outdoor concert event with VERY loud music... let's say for example, two SRX828SP and two SRX835P (JBL).
How many extra batteries would I need and how long would they last?
PAS 63100 (BSI) this is the new standard for "home batteries" and it states that all home batteries MUST located be outside the house. (UK Building Code Official)
Can you charge discharge the anker add on battery seperate from the main battery, or does the add solely work when connected to the main battery only?
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Thanks man for all your work. I live on a boat in Florida and I'm looking for a solution that can run a 1000 watt portable A/C pretty much 24 hr. a day and stay charged with solar. What is you opinion on a solution? Thanks Again.
Thank you for watching! You'd want a decent battery bank to be able to run your portable AC during days without sun and at night time. If you have a boat that's big enough, the DPU could be a good fit, or this unit with multiple expansion batteries!
We also built a quiz (link in the description) that would confirm these recommendations. Feel free to try it out!
I can't help but wonder if Anker's products overheat and smoke like ecoflow's? Also, is Anker's customer support? Ecoflow's is dismal at best.
Noted Published Impression... one bummer that I noticed is that I cannot charge another (at least not large) power station with this power station. I tried charging my EcoFlow Delta 2 Max (my second largest power station) with the F3800, and it gave a warning stating that there was a risk of damage. While unsurprised, I am thankful that Anker programmed this feature into the F3800 to avoid damage.
New is New. Is what I always say. Open Eyes sees Most. Thats Me Tho. Actually I have charged my own D2M with my main over 13 months old Solar Generator with 12,266 kwh expansion batteries.. ABSOLUTELY No Problem at All.
I bought four of these units.
Such a shame the expansion packs don’t just “dock” in a daisy chain without the need for a cable, with a cable connection as an alternative.
If you have no that main charging type in the house how it will be recharged non wifi
Interesting. I wonder if and/or for how long it can power a Paragon SC-2 Kiln. It might be cost savvy for a private glassblowing studio build because i can just run regular power to the Anker that powers a high voltage kiln instead of getting an electrician to dig high voltage from the main house to the studio. If it can handle 5-8 hours running a kiln , that would be a game changer.
This would be good for renters
You look just like a guy who mad car videos like 3 years ago. Crazy
yea i heard he was a pretty cool dude!
Will rooftop solar charge the unit if the grid is down?
Have it plugged in (charging), and use a microwave on one of the UPS ports. It trips around 1700watts.
It' s misbehaving when passing current through
I thought the Anker F3800 had a powerful Inverter??? The Jingle going around is___
Ultra-High 6,000W AC output with 120V/240V, conveniently powers multiple appliances at the same time, power up to 12,000W max AC output with 2 Anker SOLIX F3800s giving complete home energy without limits._____ Never the less NEMA 5-20 is 120v x 20amp which is 2400w. How can you get a Trip???
That's all true. When it's not being charged
@@lys1805 On my AC300 with 12,266kwh baterries I have'nt seen a Trip on any of the 6 x 20 amp outlets. Unless the draw is quite high as maybe 2500w+ on one outlet. Or over 3000w+ summing all outlets. Wall AC 120v is charging___ I do set that at 15A. And Solar may or may not be coming IN to assist charging . I been running 24/7 365 days annual 13 months like this and NO Problems like the trip you seen on the Anker.
Im interested in parasitic draw tests and decibels on the fan.
Which portable power unit would be best to put in your car if you're going on a road trip with an EV just to give you say 15-20 miles of range in case you get to the charger and it's not working
Battery reviews are the same. What can it run and how long?
What people either don't understand or just overlook, is the fact that Anker,Eco flow etc, are all, Chinese high frequency inverters. Anyone doing any research at all will soon learn, that low frequency inverters are the only way to go, built better,better for your appliances,last longer,produce more power,and if a problem arise,they are much cheaper to repair. To repair high frequency generators is 80% of the cost of the machine, basically throw away units. Compare any of those to Point Zero Energy units, all low frequency 120v 240v split phase. And you can use any battery/battery chemistry with there units
Seems like an amazing product. Question around the capacity of this battery which is confusing me. The website says it has a capacity of 3.84kWh in the battery. My hydro web app says I used .71kwh in the last hour. Does that mean the battery would last around 5-6 hours if I had a power failure.... assuming my home continued to use .71kwh each hour???
yes thats correct!
How long will it run two sump pumps during a power outage. Usually power goes out during storms and that would be important to know!
depends on the pumps! We have a video about choosing the right power station, in there we mentioned some math on how to figure that out!
It should be noted that you can get comparable components (batteries, charge controller, inverter) for around 1500 moneys. So the (undeniably practical) case, integration and testing is 2000 moneys. Up to the customer to decide whether that's worth it.
What inverter would you suggest to get those outputs? The ones I find are staggeringly expencive.
Hmm, AC Coupling. What are the exact steps to add this unit to my home with grid-connected solar?
See my comment
I wonder if they would lake you take it on a Disney cruise ship considering you can’t take a power strip on the ship
This is seriously outpricing itself. The Allpowers R4000 is only $2000.
Weird to click a video then realize is Robbie
Exactly what I was thinking 😂😂
i dont get that u only have 3840wh when its so big. We got eucs thats much smaller with bigger capacitiy. They should make something like this 168v so it could be like 10.000wh at the same size
“ or something like that”. Just how familiar are you with Anker bro?!?!
Delta pro ultra
Seems like that is only a 25A 240V plug according to the label.