Two more well known examples are Jamie SA1 and Juri SA1. For Jamie you hold up forward as soon as you have started blocking it and you will jump behind him and leave him -80 or so. Against Juri you have to block the first 2 reps of her fireballs before you forward jump to side switch and make her more minus.
At 11:05 when you switched to Zangief, I was actually thinking, wait don't tell me, COULD IT BE? Could this be the one shining moment where Tundra Storm has finally some usefulness? (Keeps watching) Oh meh, guess not
The interaction between DI and a stray projectile also applies to Dhalsim's OD arcing fireball. If you've gotten a hit, but the fireball is bouncing towards you, you can DI it and get the cinematic. It even works if you've already just hit them with DI, meaning you can get two cinematic DI's in one combo.
Something very simple (and probably not very useful for higher level play) as Ryu is heavy tatsu against Rashid's charged tornado. If you see Rashid charging his projectile even from full screen, you can heavy tatsu on reaction and as Rashid is stuck until he throws his tornado, you'll get a punish counter. If you're at the right distance (which is roughly full screen but is quite lenient), you even get a juggle with H.DP-->LVL3 which is A LOT of damage. Very specific stuff compared to the video but thought I would still share !
anyone who played SF4 knows all about obscure punishes, all the way up to character-specific, frame-perfect punishes that you might land 1 out of 100 times in an online match.
Manon has a version of this where she can OD spin through almost every super in the game that hits upper body. Manon doesn’t have any setup moves but you can get a combo from a jump in if you do the spin feint and then neutral jump
Standing Heavy Kick with Zangief can cause a punish counter sometimes, and if spaced correctly, you can get a Level 1 super, easy 4k damage to close out a round, or Level 2 into Level 1. Better players than me can get an Level 2 super, Hellstab, and OD air SPD or Level 1 super.
Another obscure rashid one for projectile supers like ryus and akumas, with a meaty arabian cyclome you can do the forward roll, and since its projectile invulnerable you'll go right through the projectile. On some supers this gives you enough advantage to charge up a whirlwind shot and do your max damage combos
As for Chun Li vs the Blanka setup, her heavies don't work when trying to cancel into DI, so a good punish is after landing from the jump, punish with 2HP canceled into EX hazanshu to go over the Blanka Chan, then continue the combo with L legs into M Tensho Kicks, or even L Legs into lvl 3 or EX legs to combo into lvl 2
With Ed, he has his own system of punishes when he's cornered someone. Because his lvl2 dream combo does far more when he's doing it mid screen vs. cornering someone, this opens it up to where you can get tons of obscure punishes on characters, get on the other side and start the combo. With the new shin dream that goes to 6090 damage with tons of meter build, but even goes to 6690 with lvl1. For a lot of DPs you can simply dash under or walk under it's pretty self explanatory. Cammy with her back to the corner you can't do it, but if it's done outside of that you can do DR into OD blitz. Against Chun that OD tensho kicks needs to be blocked close, vs. guile you can dash under if you blocked OD flash kick crouching, standing has more blockstun and doesn't give you enough time. And there are many lvls and lvl2s (eg. Bison lvl1, manon lvl1 etc.) where you actually don't need to block it, you can jumpback, corner yourself and still have enough time to OD blitz and start the combo. It's something that I know momochi was looking at, you can go deep into that rabbit hole and optimize Ed.
Neutral jumping while in burnout to get a better meterless punish seems like a great idea too. On top of your punish might not work with 4 frames difference
If you are in Burnout, you might want to jump because that super might actually kill you on block... supers do a very much not negligible amount of chip
Always been a priority when a new character comes out: What does my whiff super look like. Do I do 2 hits and then stop? 1? Do I move forward? Do I shrink down? Sometimes whiff super can be deathly like Broski shows, sometimes your whiff puts you in a weird place that can help you out.
I end up getting a punish from flipping back into the corner by being hit attempting to jump out mid combos, I recal this working on some Kens, Lukes and maybe Ryu or Chun. Also DPing drive impacts to make them whiff is also in my arsenal, if I ever lab this stuff I might post it.
You can punish Juris level 1 in between when she is throwing the ground fireballs and the air ones. That's what I like to do atleast. You got to parry the first half and drive rush. Don't fuck it up or she'll punish you with the ending half of her super.
PC normal linking is still something I need to get down, same with counterhit. When playing SF4, I hardly ever needed to pay attention to those mechanics, except for step-kick into the DP. I’d just abuse the Kara mechanic like it was going out of style.
Broski I have one I accidentally did on stream. Vs JP s hp into EX shadow that swipes twice ....after the s.Hp perfect parry the first swipe and opinion select drive rush JP is -16 when you do
I was thinking Gief could have a pretty good punish with charged J.HP after jumping out of a level 1, but unfortunately Gief can't actually jump out of most level 1s thanks to his slow jump.
I don't have a.k.i. so I can't test it but would anyone happen to know if you can punish a.k.i. lvl 2 with Guile drive rush level 1? If you can, is there a distance limit that should be considered?
Drive impact kind of sucks huh? Sure in lower ranks it works all the time, but at a certain skill level it's just really bad and barely used. If they make more moves like devils reverse punishable with a di, I think that will help the game in the long run.
@SnakeTheBoss13 The only time it's good is when you do it once a match on oki because it's actually kind of hard to DI back because it doesn't buffer I think
I read this as “obscure punches” and I was worried you were beginning to reach for content. It goes to show that street fighter players can’t/refuse to read
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The most obscure punish is having to fight Dahlsim
Agreed
Hey at least barely anybody plays Dhalsim 😂
That's why it's obscure.
the tough part is, this opinion will stay around even if hes the worst character for 5 seasons
its so satisfying when you are also playing a rare character against Dhalsim and you get to deal knowledge checks againt him lol
Shout outs to the chat suggesting Tundra Storm during the Dee Jay segment, then the cut to when the chat says that Tundra Storm sucks.
Gotta love my already niche kick parry that was inexplicably coded to lose to supers for some reason
@@TheFatManateedon't bully Elena please
@@TheFatManateeAll Counters don't counter Supers, Tundra Storm was thrown there simply.
@@BackOff_xd amnesia beats supers
@TheFatManatee EX Amnesia? Or All Amnesia versions?
Obscure punishes were my childhood
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Getting hit by whatever random objects happen to be nearby lol I know the one 😂
Shoutout to people who lab Dhalsim punishes, very cool tech for a character you’ll fight once or twice a month (if even that)
thankfully replay takeover makes labbing against Dhalsim easier now
Two more well known examples are Jamie SA1 and Juri SA1. For Jamie you hold up forward as soon as you have started blocking it and you will jump behind him and leave him -80 or so.
Against Juri you have to block the first 2 reps of her fireballs before you forward jump to side switch and make her more minus.
The Juri one is really helpful I had a match recently where I was in burnout and sa1 chipped me out, wish I knew that then😂 thanks for sharing man
"I can barely remember a thing" does shit i didn't even know was possible
Nice
Broski your videos genuinely make my day better. Thank you for making such high quality and in-depth content for us nerds :)
At 11:05 when you switched to Zangief, I was actually thinking, wait don't tell me, COULD IT BE?
Could this be the one shining moment where Tundra Storm has finally some usefulness?
(Keeps watching) Oh meh, guess not
😂😂😂😂😂
Broski: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO COMBOS
Also Broski: BEGINS TO DO DAMAGING COMBOS WITH CHARACTERS WITH MOST OF THE CAST
The interaction between DI and a stray projectile also applies to Dhalsim's OD arcing fireball. If you've gotten a hit, but the fireball is bouncing towards you, you can DI it and get the cinematic. It even works if you've already just hit them with DI, meaning you can get two cinematic DI's in one combo.
Well that's just filthy! 😄
ah yes, the most obscure of ancient martial arts techniques: punch him in the god damn face
Wow Cool Video Broski I Love Video Good Video
A good punish against Honda players is to ask them what he got in the last patch
Dead
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Also ask them what they do for a living
@@Kara-de5czThey're all professional baseball catchers. They love crouching for hours on end and getting smacked by projectiles.
Something very simple (and probably not very useful for higher level play) as Ryu is heavy tatsu against Rashid's charged tornado. If you see Rashid charging his projectile even from full screen, you can heavy tatsu on reaction and as Rashid is stuck until he throws his tornado, you'll get a punish counter. If you're at the right distance (which is roughly full screen but is quite lenient), you even get a juggle with H.DP-->LVL3 which is A LOT of damage.
Very specific stuff compared to the video but thought I would still share !
anyone who played SF4 knows all about obscure punishes, all the way up to character-specific, frame-perfect punishes that you might land 1 out of 100 times in an online match.
I love this character punish series
Manon has a version of this where she can OD spin through almost every super in the game that hits upper body. Manon doesn’t have any setup moves but you can get a combo from a jump in if you do the spin feint and then neutral jump
God tier content as always bro. Love it
Big thumbs up for that Bison Devil's Reverse punish
really awesome showcase here, would love more of this
They better not patch that Blanka setup out. Fucked up mix like this is great when the strategy against it is this cool.
0:50 Me who's already subscribed: "IT'S FREE REAL STATE"
Standing Heavy Kick with Zangief can cause a punish counter sometimes, and if spaced correctly, you can get a Level 1 super, easy 4k damage to close out a round, or Level 2 into Level 1. Better players than me can get an Level 2 super, Hellstab, and OD air SPD or Level 1 super.
Another obscure rashid one for projectile supers like ryus and akumas, with a meaty arabian cyclome you can do the forward roll, and since its projectile invulnerable you'll go right through the projectile. On some supers this gives you enough advantage to charge up a whirlwind shot and do your max damage combos
Well I’m a man of my word, subscribed
Already subbed but gave the vid a like, love random obscure info and situations like these!
As for Chun Li vs the Blanka setup, her heavies don't work when trying to cancel into DI, so a good punish is after landing from the jump, punish with 2HP canceled into EX hazanshu to go over the Blanka Chan, then continue the combo with L legs into M Tensho Kicks, or even L Legs into lvl 3 or EX legs to combo into lvl 2
I just subbed. Been watchin you for a while
With Ed, he has his own system of punishes when he's cornered someone. Because his lvl2 dream combo does far more when he's doing it mid screen vs. cornering someone, this opens it up to where you can get tons of obscure punishes on characters, get on the other side and start the combo. With the new shin dream that goes to 6090 damage with tons of meter build, but even goes to 6690 with lvl1.
For a lot of DPs you can simply dash under or walk under it's pretty self explanatory. Cammy with her back to the corner you can't do it, but if it's done outside of that you can do DR into OD blitz. Against Chun that OD tensho kicks needs to be blocked close, vs. guile you can dash under if you blocked OD flash kick crouching, standing has more blockstun and doesn't give you enough time. And there are many lvls and lvl2s (eg. Bison lvl1, manon lvl1 etc.) where you actually don't need to block it, you can jumpback, corner yourself and still have enough time to OD blitz and start the combo. It's something that I know momochi was looking at, you can go deep into that rabbit hole and optimize Ed.
Ahhhhhhh, you fuckin' got me. I didn't know at least 3 of 'em.
0:45 No deal. I’m already subscribed so I can only click like button 🤷🏻♂️
Neutral jumping while in burnout to get a better meterless punish seems like a great idea too. On top of your punish might not work with 4 frames difference
If you are in Burnout, you might want to jump because that super might actually kill you on block... supers do a very much not negligible amount of chip
nice tech, ty broski bro
Always been a priority when a new character comes out: What does my whiff super look like. Do I do 2 hits and then stop? 1? Do I move forward? Do I shrink down? Sometimes whiff super can be deathly like Broski shows, sometimes your whiff puts you in a weird place that can help you out.
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Zangief mains probably going insane from that Bison Devil Reverse entry
what was the "obscure punish" at your school?
Damn you got me i did not know of any of these punishes
The aki level 2 feels like propaganda coming from an aki player, “go ahead try this tech :)”. It also reminds me of gbfv spot dodge
*Ryu DI combo “Which is pretty cute” had me lmfao. I was saying the same thing. “That’s cute”
Wow, I’m actually surprised you taught me something
so do i unsub and resub?
Treat it like a toggle. Unsubscribe for now and next time he wins your heart resubscribe.
7:30 It's possible to punish aki super 2 with Akuma zanku > super 1 or zanku > sweep (full screen), you don't need to use drive meter
(Sorry for my bad english)
I found the Bison mine DI bit by accident, but didn't share it on Twitter properly.
I don't play SF6, but this is still so fun to watch
16:15 oh no! Poor akuma.
Maybe Capcom can add an auto-teleport out of the corner that gives him +47 when his L1 whiffs.
Don't give them any ideas
being this early is freaky
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I end up getting a punish from flipping back into the corner by being hit attempting to jump out mid combos, I recal this working on some Kens, Lukes and maybe Ryu or Chun.
Also DPing drive impacts to make them whiff is also in my arsenal, if I ever lab this stuff I might post it.
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Didn't know, had to sub. Deals a deal
As soon as said 3 I sub'd great content and help to support
you missed rashid’s on manon lvl 2 where he can get a fully charged fireball punish
You can punish Juris level 1 in between when she is throwing the ground fireballs and the air ones. That's what I like to do atleast. You got to parry the first half and drive rush. Don't fuck it up or she'll punish you with the ending half of her super.
I was already subscribed, but I promised I'd hit that subscribe button! 😭
Can’t believe he forced me make a deal and subscribe, great content.
The most obscure punish is jumping Jamie or Juri lvl 1 and taunting before the punish counter
PC normal linking is still something I need to get down, same with counterhit. When playing SF4, I hardly ever needed to pay attention to those mechanics, except for step-kick into the DP. I’d just abuse the Kara mechanic like it was going out of style.
This is super cool to know!
*proceeds to neutral jump Ryu's level 3*
Broski I have one I accidentally did on stream. Vs JP s hp into EX shadow that swipes twice ....after the s.Hp perfect parry the first swipe and opinion select drive rush JP is -16 when you do
A facilidade que você tem em fazer os combos otimizados com outros personagens é absurda
I was thinking Gief could have a pretty good punish with charged J.HP after jumping out of a level 1, but unfortunately Gief can't actually jump out of most level 1s thanks to his slow jump.
Shouts out to chico!
Akuma does that super against bison and he has a mine on him. Goodbye 81%
i dont have the game to test out the first AKI punish with the level 2 super, but i am curious if terry's supers can connect!
I thibk Capcom actually showed the aki level 2 one in the replay takeover video
I need to be punished obscurely
14:37 i cant hit this medium punch after the fHK(6HK), does anyone know how its work?
thanks
Frankly as zangief against Byson I just jump spd and do around 4k damage usually they don’t try it a second time which is a pity 😅
Does Broski have a pocket Ryu that we don't know about???
Nice try i only didnt know 2 of these setups but I'll still give you that sub
Me, a Dee Jay who is currently a huge degenerate with lvl1 in neutral: delete this fam
I don't have a.k.i. so I can't test it but would anyone happen to know if you can punish a.k.i. lvl 2 with Guile drive rush level 1? If you can, is there a distance limit that should be considered?
Anyone know a punish against yoga inferno?
If it's spaced, then not many characters can punish it. Cammy SA3, Ken SA2 if it reaches, Blanka SA1 and SA3, Bison SA1. That's pretty much it.
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Okay well I have to sub, u got me. However my character is manon. Doubt any of that is useful for me lol
Ggs I was the obscure punish
the most obscure punish is having to fight modern players
New vid 😎
against dee jay lvl 1 you could also just use tundra storm as gief, right? lol
Get a room with Aki already ...
I accept your deal, Broski.
I did not know about any of these punishes...unsubbed.
Drive impact kind of sucks huh? Sure in lower ranks it works all the time, but at a certain skill level it's just really bad and barely used. If they make more moves like devils reverse punishable with a di, I think that will help the game in the long run.
Yeah, I watch a lot of high rank vods and DIs are circumstantial at best
@SnakeTheBoss13 The only time it's good is when you do it once a match on oki because it's actually kind of hard to DI back because it doesn't buffer I think
I didn't know more than 3 of these but I'm already subscribed. So I guess I unsubscribe?
Ashura Senku is unblockable
rhu9 8s super funny
just hit sub cause as if i will know them
11:39 marisa players losing as always
I read this as “obscure punches” and I was worried you were beginning to reach for content. It goes to show that street fighter players can’t/refuse to read
You better hope i know them all, im already subbed ill have to leave!
Any obscure punish for Ysaar ? 🤡
broski, more like brosA.K.I
ngl that was ass
groskik
I didn't know any of those, so i hit the subscribe button. I am now unsubscribed again.
Why did you make a video on how to beat that blanka set up. Leave us blanka players alone please.
Alright man I hit the subscribe button and now I'm unsubscribed
No deal, if I hit the subscribe button it will unsub me from your channel, you'll have to try harder than that to get rid of me. I'll throw a 👍 on it though
Please stop telling people Blanka secrets! He’s not even top tier!
I wish we also have a broski in granblue versus 🥲