Why PlayStation is Failing Bloodborne Fans
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- Опубликовано: 9 апр 2024
- A message to Sony Playstation about the state of Bloodborne in 2024. I understand Fromsoftware doesn't even own the game...Sony does. Which is likely way Bloodborne Remastered/Remake/2 will release with the PS6...one can hope!
Bloodborne is a 2015 action role-playing game developed by FromSoftware and published by Sony Computer Entertainment for the PlayStation 4. Bloodborne follows the player's character, a Hunter, through the decrepit Gothic, Victorian-era-inspired city of Yharnam, whose inhabitants are afflicted with a blood-borne disease which transforms the residents, called Yharnamites, into horrific beasts. Attempting to find the source of the plague, the player's character unravels the city's mysteries while fighting beasts and cosmic beings.
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If you think loading times are bad now, there are probably launch era plasma TV's with BLOODBORNE burned into the screen.
True lmao 🤣
Before it was patched, the loading times were the stuff of nightmares
My old OLED (8 years now!) has the HP/Stamina HUD burned into the screen 😂 I second this comment 😅
Hey. A post about me!
Exactly what happened to my TV lmfaoo
It's a disgrace to gaming that Sony has held this game hostage for near a decade.
Why? Sony paid for it, they don’t have to port it over you could just get a playstation
@@juliushegge4845yeah that's a disgrace
@@JSON_bourne damn so you don’t own anything?
@@juliushegge4845 Even if you have a PS 5 you cannot play 60 fps, if you are not a fanboy of a big capitalist company, you need to say something about this.
@@juliushegge4845 Must be hard to type all that shit with one hand while the other is jerking sony off
I don’t expect a corporation like Sony to care about the fans of their games, but I at least expect them to care about the stupid amount of money a remaster of this game would make.
If tons of people care so much about this game how come you guys don’t put that energy into action and find a way to get them to listen to you. If it’s been 10 years and people still talk about a Remaster or whatever yet don’t truly organize to let your voices be heard then yall really don’t want it bad enough.
This game barely sold 3 million copies after 2 years it launched yet projects like God Of War Ragnarok sold over 5.1 million copies within its launch week, pretty sure Sony cares about what their fans actually support
@@bamban_garcia5562 niche game vs AAA mainstream "mass appeal" game. Im not trashing God of War, but it was a estabilished IP
@@bamban_garcia5562 brodie you comparing a game from 2015 to a game from 2022 which has god of war in the name , if it would've released as a remake it would've sold a fuckton more copies easily , look at elden ring , in the first 2 weeks it sold 12M
@@bamban_garcia5562they’re still promoting Demon’s Souls which hasn’t sold anywhere near Bloodborne
So it’s a fast paced game locked to 30 FPS
Yes because its a 9 year old game lol
@@ThePoliceDonutthere have been 60 FPS games on consoles since the 90s
@@tomvandongen8075 its frustrating when people think 30fps is the norm. It was only like that for like, one console generation.
@@buckyhurdle4776 Yah the longest one that went on forever. PS3 also had alot of games 30 FPS.
@@ThePoliceDonut More so that Fromsoft wanted to go with visuals instead of performance and the fact that the Physics Engine of the game is locked to 30fps as well. To get it to 60fps would require modifying portions of the physics engine code - something From nor Japan Studios wished to do (modders have done it though).
I'll forever love Bloodborne, but goddamn, that hike back to Logarius is downright egregious.
Get good kill him on your first try JK
The One Reborn had an even worse way back to it. Getting one-shot in NG+3 by those piles is actually nerve-wrecking
First time I played BB I struggled SO HARD on Logarius… that freaking runback drove me insane
@CostmioLabosshadows isn’t bad at all, the pigs are easy to run past it’s just the elevator that gets tedious if you keep dying (just happened to me in ng+ lol)
The runback to Laurence is just as awful and its one if the hardest bosses for me
The worst part about the 30 fps lock is that Lance McDonald has conclusively demonstrated that unlocking the game to 60 fps absolutely does not break the game (and why should it; it's the same engine as DS3, Sekiro, AC6 and Elden Ring)
bro if u change one line of code on ur game it goes 60 fps like 60 fps patches are out
It's not the same engine as Elden Ring, it's a new one for that game.
@@HumanSkullCrusher From havent fully upgraded their in house engine for a long time, they add on to it and customize it further and further for each game. Most skeleton of the engine is the same.
@@HumanSkullCrusher bloodborne uses the same dantelion2 engine as the rest (yes, demons souls all the way to ac6 use the exact same engine)
bloodborne will have a time itll become overrated and dead for sony. miyazaki and others at fromsoftware should just make a better and new IP and release it everywhere except playstation as a troll but that'd be too expensive XDXD. sed
Purely from a business standpoint, just sitting on this IP and doing nothing is asinine; majority of people who’ve played Bloodborne not only love it, but it’s probably one of their favourite games ever. 100% of those people would happily pay $60 (or more) for a remastered (maybe even an updated) edition. Plus, an entirely new generation of gamers would be introduced to this masterpiece.
Even just opening up the game to other platforms; everyone who loves Bloodborne has salivated at the thought of the potential for PC mods, etc.
If they don’t do anything for the tenth anniversary next year, I fear the worst.
They're edging us, Sony won't just pass this up
@@metaphysicalparadoxI don't trust Sony not to fuck up.
Wrong
@@metaphysicalparadox I dunno, they screwed over Killzone, and Resistance in the same manner. Even the new FF games, they have been holding hostage on one system, then complaining about "not enough sales"
As one of the old fans. No I hope this game and name never gets touched again. It was a master piece, and corpses should be left well enough alone.
Micolash fight is not random😔
to put it simply just think of it as a box pushing puzzle
99% of the time he will just run to the opposite direction from where you are chasing him
so you need to stop chasing him blindly from behind
when he stops in front of the door don't approach him from above or below
approach him from the left to PUSH him into the room.
This!
I still know the pattern to which you need to push him and it always work like clockwork, never fails.
Shout out Farfetch'd Azalea forest puzzle Pokemon Silver
Finally someone who gets it! But still,
Micolash really does suck tho
his boss fight is pretty easy once you understand that
A remake with a more convenient fast travel system and more quality of life improvements is such a profitable decision. Its insane Sony is gatekeeping this game
They need to remove circle jumping as well. and maybe add a respec system. there definitely a few QOL things they could do.
You'd think that the success of Elden Ring and the Demon's Souls remake would make them realise that even just releasing the game as it is on PC would be profitable. A remaster would do incredibly well, on both PS5 and PC.
They are holding it in their backpacker for something
@@mithex8414maybe make it open world. Add a horse. And a big tree
@@harrylane4you joke, but a bloodborne spiritual successor as big as elden ring would be sick. 😂
I love both but the gothic / cosmic horror elements of BB are what takes the cake for me.
This game will forever be a masterpiece no matter the fps and to experienced souls players
I’m optimistic that we’ll get a remake.
@@Red_Eyed I hope so too man
Thats... not the point
I honestly will never understand people’s obsession with the fps. I mean the difference between 30 and 60 fps is so minuet I don’t see why people need to mention it or bring it up when trying to complain or talk down on it. It looks gorgeous and the world as a whole really draws you in and it’s very solid overall.
@@Sandrockthehedgehog Its literally twice as smooth, thats not a minute difference. 60fps looks wayyyy better
If Bloodborne had Demon’s Souls Remake loading times it wouldnt matter if you had to go back to the hunter’s dream for fast travel, the hub is basically a playable fast travel menu at that point and i think that was the original vision in the first place
CANT confirm this. I played Bloodborne in 2023 right after Elden Ring and had an absolute blast
Some people genuinely do think that if a new player sees something running at 30fps it'll melt their puny normie brains.
Bloodborne was my first fromsoft title. It kicked my ass. I had a great time and it's quality hasn't gone down with time. I'd say that jake's recommendation of elden ring, demons souls and dark souls 2 OVER bloodborne is downright ludicrous.
Bloodborne was so great at introducing the player to fast paced, brutal, punishing but rewarding combat, as opposed to these other titles that were either unfair (elden ring), slow (dark souls 2) or not designed around fun bossfights (demons souls).
Hell, recommending dark souls 1 over bloodborne when it's got that whole shitty second half in it is absurd. Dark Souls 1 is carried by nostalgia and originality at the time, not genuine quality.
And sekiro? The combat in that game is superb, and is basically so different from any other fromsoft post-demons title that you can recommend it to most people provided they understand the game isn't your average AAA handholding title. I would also disagree with some people calling it the "hardest" fromsoft title. It's neither particularly more easy or particularly harder than the rest of the line-up, it's just different.
Bloodborne is one of the best examples where art direction, combat mechanics, etc, are more important than fps and too many people don't realize it.
I love blood borne, but I played it after lies of P and Elden Ring and it shows the wrinkles. The character customization is old and lack a lot of features that modern games have added, and the graphics and the way the character moves show more age right after you’ve played this new titles, the hunter has this rigid way of moving that looks more robotic than the puppets of P. What’s holding this game will always be gameplay story and atmosphere. But a remake at least will be nice, they have done the last of us multiple times and those games are less than a turd compare to the greatness of BB
@@DanielGarcia-rx3ktyeah how does this make any sense? Maybe the importance of fps didn't matter when the game released ages ago but we're in goddamn 2024 stuck with 30 fps that could be easily fixed. If a modder can do it so should a game company.
@@RedFloyd469 all this typing to justify them not editing 30 lines of hex code in a free update for 60fps. Just stop dude.
I wouldn't say it's showing its age. It's not even 10 years yet. If we got 60fps and 1080p HD, it would actually look a lot better.
That’s a very low bar in 2024 we should get 1440p 60fps atleast
@coreyjasper8329 yeah we do get that I'm just saying what I said would make it better.
@@coreyjasper8329I don’t think that a ps5 can handle that. Pc would for sure tho
No circle jumping. Resting at lamps to skip fast travels. Respect skills.
60 FPS.
@GodfreyFirstEldenLord I mean i played resident evil 4 remake on the series x at 60fps 1880p coz I looked it up and that's what it can run at. And God of war runs 4k res with 60fps because in the setting it gives you that option so some games can.
Even just a pc port It would be the fastest purchase ever
I really don’t think it’s about money for Sony. I think they’re just too busy with new projects tbh.
They aren't. They literally just have to change one or two things in Bloodborne's code to enable 60 FPS for example.@@kavid8120
its about money, they want people to buy piss4 just for this one game. no matter how much money i have, i rather keep upgrading my pc, piss4 fab can jerk each other off Bloodborne, I already lost interested in that game and found out why pc players hated piss4 player.
I just beat Bloodborne for the first time today. I thought this game is incredible
Ayy nice, 8 days go but still nice.. what ending did u get?
@@LittleSilva422 The Secret one with Moon Presence and consuming the cords
@@JakeTheBrightLord damn that was ur first time? I was a crippled my first time, and i remember my first reaction was something like "NOO I CANT F*CK THE DOLL!" or something like that lol
@@LittleSilva422 I had already played Dark Souls 3 and 2 and Elden Ring
Lance MacDonald already proved that Bloodborne can run at 60 fps on both ps4 and ps5
I really want this on PC. And no I don't want a remake like with Demon's Souls. While it looks cool, they've changed soo much and the original art design was lost. I'd hate to see it happen with Bloodborne, all it needs is 60 FPS and it's perfect as it is.
Edit:
1. When it comes to FPS a modder already unlocked it and the game's logic runs perfectly fine on 60 FPS.
2. Bloodvials absolutely need no change. Once you can buy them they're very easy to get. Like mentioned people just didn't know and cried about it.
As someone who only played Bloodborne this year as my first Souls game, the whole 60 fps argument has always seemed downright redundant to me. It’s not as if I can’t see the difference considering I regularly play games in 60 fps, but why in the Hell do people care? If anything I just think it adds a little aged charm to the game I’d anything. It doesn’t negatively impact the game. It can’t just be me right?
@@RandomChannelTMBE For some people 60 FPS is a big deal and I understand that. But I get your point as well since I'm more of a eye candy person and I often play with a 30-45 FPS cap to maximise quality. But yea obviously I think people care because there is indeed a very significant difference between those framerates and there literally is no reason BB is capped to 30 nowadays since it can run 60 easily. Shii if i could run RDR2 maxed out 60 fps (instead of a 30 cap like i play now) I'd be very happy and would def consider that a better gameplay experience.
@@RandomChannelTMBE 30 fps outright looks laggy to me. I saw that a pc player who plays most games above 60 fps.
@@rng_stuff I’m honestly seriously and I totally disagree. I switch between 30 and 60 FPS games consistently and barely notice a difference. I’m not a hardcore gamer or anything but it barely makes a difference to me. To say that you NEED a PC to replay this game honestly just sounds entitled more than anything (not to be that guy but that’s genuinely just how it sounds to me. Not trying to start anything, I genuinely wish to understand the strong 60>30 FPS view. Obviously the number is there but that can’t just be it, I feel like I’m missing something that others can see
@@rng_stuff I’ve played consoles for just under 2 decades and I can assure you loading times have not slowed down, in fact they’ve noticeably sped up, especially between the PS4/5. I’m also not quite sure what you mean by accessibility, but I’d disagree with that. They’re very easy to set up and have a variety of games that cater to plenty of people. I can’t speak on the online play for Bloodborne as I played it way past its prime and apparently it’s dead these days anyways, but the paid online services is shit for PlayStation, won’t defend them on that.
Saying that the FPS affected your experience though? I struggle to believe you. FPS impacts competitive PVP games where you’re facing real people. Souls games against AI-ran bosses are about learning the tells of a move and learning to avoid them. If you’re struggling that badly then I personally don’t believe that FPS is the issue there…
Think of it this way too. People managed when they first came out and it isn’t as if the quality of them has deteriorated. You just have higher standards for gaming as is natural. That doesn’t make them unplayable though, not to any degree. So the issue isn’t the FPS, it’s what you’re used to personally. Again I switch between 30 and 60 FPS games regularly, whether it be First Person Shooters, Souls-likes or whatever else, so maybe I’m used to adjusting between them quickly. Even with the example you used I struggle to believe that FPS made all the difference. You probably just learned the moves and the extra FPS gave you that extra confidence you needed to complete it, like a placebo almost.
Super Hexagon I can understand more since there’s no learning patterns, it’s all about speed. Hey at the end of the day if you want to pin your gaming issues on FPS I can’t stop you, I just personally disagree. Have a good day
The dream is fading, oh Lawrence what’s taking you so long?
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I’ve seen the modded bloodborne with 60fps and man does it look like a whole new game
Yea if Lance McDonald can do a 60fps mod in his house. They can port it to ps5 with all the bells and whistles
Bloodborne is so good I met my wife on it 😅
Alright, now you gotta tell the story.
@@MaxG628 pretty simple. Was trying to beat Laurence ng+5 and couldn’t for the life of me. Was summoning people left right and centre. then I summoned my future wife on it. Funny enough I thought she was a dude at the time.
We tried to beat him all night but couldn’t so I said to her ‘thanks for helping anyway. Any chance you can help tomorrow?’ She said ‘no I’m leaving for a week sorry.’ I said ok np.
Didn’t think I would ever see her again.
A week later I’m still trying to beat him and I send her a text saying thanks for helping me last week any chance you can help again?
She said wtf you’re still stuck? Ok I’ll help. Eventually we beat him and then I helped her out too with other stuff.
Next thing I know we are discussing the theological and philosophical structure of bloodborne, talking about various things and hit it off and the rest is history 😅
Took a while though. Like half a year before anything happened
@@deanmccrorie3461Aww, thats really cute! I assume this was over Discord or something, since you can’t communicate like that in-game?
@@deanmccrorie3461 I mostly play Fortnite so meeting people is common but meeting people through Souls Co-op is so satisfying. Them helping you, you helping them. Happy for you both!
@@MaxG628 nah just the PlayStation chat
I got a buddy into Elden Ring and he's obsessed with it, then I tried to get him into Bloodborne which is by far my favorite soulsbourne game. He could not get through it when it came to loading, the vial farming, and the 30fps. Makes me sad, because people won't understand how incredible the game was at launch.
Bloodborne hands down has the best lore of all the souls games but even I struggle to go back to it in the state it is currently in and I have over 600 hours in the game.
If you want your friend to experience Bloodborne, but he just can't get into it himself, if he wants to WATCH someone play it, I recommend watching Maximilian's Bloodborne Lore Run videos. Very entertaining videos, and will get a good dose of lore without having to play. That might even get him interested in trying again sometime. You never know🙂
Lol, I just made another comment, and I'm basically your friend. I game on PC, I can't enjoy 30 fps, and I left consoles early on the previous gen mainly because of that, but then found out about a bunch more benefits, which is a different topic
Asking to someone who's used to 144 fps gaming to play a game that runs at 30 fps is like asking someone who's used to 30 fps to play a game at 15 fps. Sure, you can move. You can understand what is happening on screen, but it feels terrible. It is not something you can enjoy, no matter how good the game is, and that's Bloodborne for me. The only From Software souls game I didn't like, and purely because of the bad performance.
Skill issue from his part honestly
No
DO NOT mention blueponint. They will ruin the atmosphere and art direction like they did Demon's Souls
they even ruined the soundtrack, it just sounds like generic movie music
Some gamers just want fancy graphics, "atmosphere" isn't on their radar.
if Bluepoint have restricions in what they cannot change, thike colortheme, soundtracks and lore heavy design choises in graphics or design, the could make this game shine. Bloodborne is my favourite game and i love the story and the atmosphere, but when Myazaki would check on the making of this remake even a little (pringing it on every plattform for shure), it would be a GOLDEN TIME FOR THIS GAME
The remake is great regardless.
Hard disagree that original game was groundbreaking but the jank of the ps3 is too much to go back to. I think the art style is incredibly faithful
I played bloodborne as my first soulslike a few months ago and i absolutely loved it. it's my favorite game of all time and i dont see any other game that would change my mind. the 30fps, long loading time and all the other bs people talk about is pure nonsense. bloodborne definetly still holds up to this day and doesn't need any remake or remaster. the only actual good thing that could happen to this game would be a sequel.
facts, i play games for so many other reasons not just for its resolution or framerate its actually irrelevant to thr enjoyment of thr game that much
Still has the best soundtrack!
Nioh franchise does that healing item system. You get 3 guaranteed when you respawn but can collect more up to 8 in total. By exploring the maps and collecting the special collectible (Kodama), it increases the amount you can have when you respawn per region of the game, 3 to 5
I was literally talking about how I want to play Bloodborne so badly with a friend today. It saddens me to know that Sony owns the IP... Not Fromsoft because Sony seemingly does not care about this game. I would have taken Bloodborne over the two Horizon games they decided to release on PC. Either they ARE doing something with the game to release on PC and probably PS5 at some point or.... they just don't care about giving the game to more people who would absolutely jump all over it. Hell release it on Xbox I don't care I just want to play the game and I'd much rather just buy it on Steam than have to buy a console or stream the game through PSPlus. I have only been on PC for most of my life (minus when I was younger and we had consoles in the house) but I never bought an Xbox One or PS4... So it sucks not being able to play one of FromSofts most praised games. The only thing I can continue to hold out hope for is an announcement comes later this year with plans for a remaster or remake coming in 2025 on the 10 year anniversary. But... Everyday that goes by without an announcement my faith dwindles ever so slightly. A man can hope I guess.
How many copies did Bloodborne sell? There’s no way Sony doesn’t care about the game if it brought them a fat check. They know the success they had with Demons Remake….theyre not dumb enough to pass up on enhancing BB in some way. It’s literally free money for them. I bet my life they will do something before 2030.
@@kavid8120 ...seems like someone is going to die before 2030... lol but yeah you are right tho, but im also expecting it to not happen, time will tell i suppose
how about you buy a ps4 or well don't play it its that simple life is too short to be stressing over trivial shit like this
PS4s are cheap now. A one terabyte PS4 is under $200, just bite the bullet and buy it.
@@kamabakogonpachiro4842
no one should buy a console just to play one game. If you do buy a console for only one game you're brain is of a child. It doesn't matter if console is cheap or not.
No one is stressing over it, I'm a fromsoftware fan and I'll play bloodborne if it comes to pc, I've big backlog of games anyway
Micolash is peak
Kos or as some say Kosm do you hear our prayers for Bloodborne remake
FACTS. A hunter is a hunter even in a dream, but alas not so fast the nightmare swirls and churns unending.
Elden Ring was my first souls game and it has gotten me into the series! I am planning to play all the games in the order they came out so I'm really hoping bloodborne is on pc (or that there is a remaster) by the time I get to it lol. On another note, just wanted to say that the load times being improved on ps5 was due to it having SSD for storage vs traditional hard drives in the ps4, whereas if you wanted to change the framerate the devs would have to release a patch to support that feature. I'm a pc player rn but I grew up with consoles so I'm not bothered by low framerate as long as it is consistent.
Good luck. My first soulsborne game was Elden Ring since then I’ve beaten Dark Souls 3, Dark Souls 2, and now Bloodborne
I tried that and couldn't enjoy ds1. Too clunky, big collision boxes, too many narrow pitch black dark areas with too many enemies and traps. I feel like compared to ER, ds1 was made *specially* with the intention to piss you off as much as possible 90% of the time. Which is sad cuz i love the aesthetics, music and lore. I tried and uninstalled several times. Then i just skipped to ds3 and I'm loving it.
@@xflip94 Weird, after Elden Ring for me DS1 feels like the Weenie Hut Junior of souls games. Every enemy is crazy slow and simple
Don't hold your breath. Just plan on playing bloodborne on ps5
@@iHaveTheDocuments I played on PS4 and didn’t have any issues
People need to chill tf out about boss runs. They can be tedious but they can also be an important part of level design. A lot of the fantastic short cuts in these games were designed with the boss run in mind. In many cases it adds to the idea of learning how to fight the level as well as the boss.
Stakes of marika work in Elden ring because many of the bosses exist in a sprawling open world. They’re largely absent from most of the dungeon sections.
I agree that sometimes they can be unnecessarily hard, but I don’t think they should be removed altogether. I think asking Sony/from to remove boss runs is a few steps away from asking for easy mode.
I agree with most points, except changing the bosses. The ones you claimed were just "bad", are not in fact bad, just difficult for you depending on your build and personal skill at the time.
I personally dont like dealing with Orphan of Kos (brutal) but i wouldnt change anything about that fight. You just gotta keep doing it till you learn the moveset or change the way you approach it.
Or even a non boss example, the madness build up in the nightmare realm can be hell to deal with if not properly prepared. If you weaken the amount or rate that it builds up so that you never have to worry about damage, theres not really a point to having it there.
like taking the poison out of Blighttown and adding an escalator
I would wholeheartedly purchase a 60fps, at 1080p at least (native res of game), update. I'd prefer a remake à la Demon's Souls... As long as the original spirit, lore, and atmosphere are in tact.
it's so odd because so many ps4 games that didn't even need it got a ps5 60fps update, but the one everyone ever who has even heard of bloodborne wants just gets completely ignored by Sony. That's the worst part, they 100% know how rabid fans are for at least an fps patch and they just never even mention bloodborne, as if it doesn't exist...
God no, a Demon's Souls style remake would be horrible. They'd just butcher the artstyle, audio, and music like they did to DeS.
Just port it.
@@JF-vz1ju Hard agree, literally all it needs is a ps5 60fps patch that so many other games got 😭
Fromsoft doesn't have the rights to update the game that's why nothing can be done
@@RLQFK fps and 1440 or 4k upscale, would be amazing.
More commentary videos, love it! You’re killing it Jake
I've only played eldin ring and bloodborne. just wrapped up my bloodborne playthrough. Immediately started a NG+. I cannot stop playing it as a new player to from Soft games I can't wait to start sekiro, but bloodborne has me hooked right now. I was warned about a lot of the points you covered by my veteran from soft friends and grinded echos for viles at the start of the game and it was the best decision I ever made. After that, the learning curve and getting fluent in parry's came pretty quick, and at times playing this game I feel unstoppable. Never got that out of eldin ring but I was a rookie rookie. Chain parrying the orphan 4-5 times in a row makes you feel like a god!
I want to try put elden ring, but from what I see it seems like it just dark souls 3 BUT open world.
I only finished dark souls 3 once, because I think the lore/story is not that interesting.
Meanwhile from what I remember I replay Bloodborne at least 5 times!
A counter argument against adding stakes of marika is that they would make shortcuts redundant. Although I admit some of the runbacks in this game are terrible
One of my best friends is finally playing Bloodborne and I'm guiding him through on co-op so he'll not miss out on anything, it's been a lot of fun that I was never able to experience in the seven years of playing this game but the frame rate drops hard as fvvvh in some situations and online latency could be improved!
This is my first time watching a video on your channel, I think it was great & I agree with everything you said here. I love this game so much and it's unfortunate that the community agrees that the issues with Bloodborne could easily be fixed with a remaster and it sucks we probably will never get it. Dark Souls 3 got an update on Xbox from 30 to 60fps a few years after & while I think it was a Microsoft thing and not a Fromsoftware thing, I really wish Sony do the same.
I feel like the blood vial system is an integral part of the game. To me it's very immersive, having to manage ur resources and deciding if it's time to level or buy some items. Just like preparation in monster hunter, there's a management aspect to the gameplay loop that I find very enjoyable.
Also, comparing Bloodborne to the souls trilogy is kinda unfair. They're all different games with unique themes and mechanics, yes they're made by the same developer, but each one is unique with its own identity.
I still think we need a Bloodborne 2 but not a sequel, a prequel instead.
I would love to see young Gherman, imagine how much of a beast he might've been in his youth, I would love to see young Lady Maria before her and Gherman were trapped in the Hunter's Dream / Nightmare, the legendary Healing Church hunter Ludwig.
There's so much lore I would love to see in a prequel like the first days of the old workshop, the Powder Kegs, the Healing Church branching off and creating their own faction of Hunters with Ludwig.
Please FromSoftware, make it happen.
It will never happen. Once you gain insight once and uncover the unfathomable, you can’t go back. The only hope is a remaster
Well in my eyes the whole point of Bloodborne, the whole plot, is about travesties being destined to reoccur, and bringing the cycle to an end. The beastly scourge spreading amidst the path to ascension to Great Ones happened to Yharnam, it previously happened to the Pthumerians and if the Moon Presence wasn’t defeated then it would’ve happened to the civilisation to come after Yharnam too. Unless they made a spin-off, totally unrelated to Yharnam, the beasts and insight vs blood (which seems pointless unless they did a game that, location-wise, revolved around Cainhurst and new areas surrounding that, then this IP needs to be left as a brilliant one off, otherwise it will risk ruining the story laid out
Finished main game, The Old Hunters DLC, all Chalice Dungeons and got first and the only one Platinum. PvP was so good and memorable. Loved it.
It could be that some animations are tied to the number of frames they take, so increasing the frame rate would change that, while having no effect on load times
I don't want a remake. Just a remaster is enough for me
yea the 30 fps thing sucks, so does having to go back and forth to the hunters dream all the time to level up or reset an area. Also occasionally you can run yourself into a wall and HAVE to farm for vials or bullets......other than that its still awesome.
Yeeaaa I mean you shouldnt NEEED a cummmm dungeon to eliminite the farming😂
I honestly never got the 60 FPS argument just never cared about stuff like that.
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The frame was improved. It locks to 30fps. However, it has frame pacing issues, which creates the stuttering and hitching you see.
The absolute bare minimum needed to be done is unlock the framerate.
Excluding money and time reasons, The only other reason i can think for why they haven't made the change is because the framerate has to be tied to the game mechanics(like i frames during rolls and back steps) or the physics.
We get Bloodborne on emulator, before Sony releases a port.
they are holding this amazing piece of art hostage.
Afaik, the loading times is just down to the storage drive. People were upgrading ps4 pros with ssd to get faster loading times, and the ps5 has an ssd by default which helps load mich faster
Thank you for mentioning rom..thought I was crazy for quitting the game twice before finally coming back and beating the game
Demons Souls remake is not good in the eyes of original players.
The voice work was redone horribly, the soundtrack was removed and replaced. The art design was changed with little understanding of the lore.
I cringe at the idea of a Bloodborne Remake by Bluepoint. Sony should do a simple remaster for both Demons Souls and Bloodborne on PS5 and PC.
If bluepoint remakes Bloodborne I think a large majority of fans will finally understand how much of a mistake it is to allow a non From Software Studio make creative decisions for a From Software game.
A lot more Bloodborne fans then Demons Souls fans. The community will finally understand how bad of an idea it is to remake a From Software game without From Software.
Demon souls remake had its issue but the core game is still there as intended
@@AG30 I think when the presentation of the story is miss represented it's hard to say the core of the game is as intended.
all your changes would for the most part ruin the game and its lore
IIRC earlier Fromsoft had a tendency to lock some game-tick stuff to frame rates, probably as a way to make sure unexpected frame stutters don't fuck you over in a tense fight. Like, even with DSFix for the original PC version of DS1 there are still a few issues with ladders, jumping, hit detection etc. Think even the durability of weapons went down quicker as the weapon durability counted each hit twice or something like that. They're obviously better at that nowadays but could be that there's still some of that laying around in the bloodborne code.
as a fromsoft noob i have held off on playing bloodborne for a lot of the reasons you mentioned. I am obsessed with the lore though so I did end up watching a playthrough by @MatiasGago so i could just sit back and take in everything without all the suffering lol. I wish I had gotten on the fromsoft train earlier, because as a Zelda refugee (iykyk) it would have been great to experience these games at launch. Still, even years later they are truly masterpieces and I'm excited to slowly but surely experience them all :)
I really truly dont think the blood vial thing is a issue for anyone than new players who haven't learned the mechanics yet. The game gives them out like candy. If your spending hours farming then you are fundamentally doing something wrong. Thats not the intended way to do things thats a safety cushion they put in as backup for certain players.
That's what he said in the video. It's an issue for new players.
Everybody complain about finite number of blood vials, but: you can carry up to 28 of them, making you nearly immortal. You can buy them. And the finite resources create the stress while exploring new areas and using them, elevaring the horror atmosphere of the game. So no. Please, keep the blood vials finite.
Ive always thought that refilling your blood vials off of your dead enemies' bodies would be a good system to implement. Like, have an item, (like an empty syringe or something) that sucks the blood out of a dead enemy. And have it fill up a different amount based on the enemy. And maybe have different enemy types give the player different effects. Some positive and some negative. That might be an idea for an entirely new game but i thought that it would be cool for a game like Bloodborne
Totally agree with all your points about the annoyances. Some of the most rewarding fights I had against bosses were when I gave up entirely on using Blood Vials because I didn't want to waste them as it forced me to learn how to fight them properly, but I felt like my incentive for doing that being that I was avoiding a tedious chore kind of diminished the reward. I think ditching blood vial farming entirely in favour of fewer total replenishing heals would result in way more rewarding boss fights in general, or if not this, something similar, but farming them or wasting blood echoes on them definitely detracts from the game.
While I still place Bloodborne as my 2nd best From Software game right after Elden Ring, however, looking back at BB since 2022, some aspects of the game have aged badly I'd say, its Chalice Dungeons system is so bad IDEK how that made it into the final game, lots of jankiness comapred to Sekiro & Elden RIng, Blood vial farming which really hampers the game's pacing, a lot & I mean A LOT of enemy reuses & repetitions especially for such a short game compared to DS3 & ER, Mediocre boss roster in the base game that is only saved by the DLC, even the DLC uses a lot of the base game enemies, the combat itself is still awesome but I would also say it has some annoyances, while locking-on, you can't run in any direction unless it's forward, this has been fixed since DS3, also no jumping mechanic which added a lot to ER's & Sekiro's combat systems, its RPG mechanics like stats & leveling is overly simplified, the Blood Gems system is overly cumbersome & frustrating at times, bosses in the base game are very simplistic mechanically compared to Sekiro & Elden Ring.
Still, Bloodborne is one of my favorite games of all time & I still replay it over & over from time to time, we need a remaster Sony!!!
Bloodborne's biggest flaws.
1. FInite vials and bullets. They should just go back to 20 every time you warp or die.
2. You should be able to rest and warp from lamps.
3. Immediately getting sent to NG+ after seeing the credits.
4. Micolash needed twice the amount of HP.
So you’ve never done the Echoe farm in the Chalice Ritual where you can get 90,000 Echoes every 40 seconds ?? I learned about it today because I just couldn’t deal with not having enough Vials. I farmed around 500k echoes and bought tons of vials and bullets and put them in storage. Finite amount of Vials literally hurts the experience by adding unnecessary annoying strain to the pace of the game
@@kavid8120 not everyone has playstation+
Micolash needs to be redesigned as a boss altogether
You can use a bold hunters mark, itll reload the area and reset your HP to full. There will be a loading screen but not two of them if you went to the dream first
I played golden sun and the original fire emblem on the switch and i can say that the limitations of the system adds a charm to it, those loading screens and the 30 fps adds to the charm of playing old bloodborne.When we get a remaster i hope they change that and improve it but you cannot deny that there is an alure to playing the game as how it was.
Bloodborne fans are fine with Bloodborne as it is. It's those who want to get in into Bloodborne that want a remaster or a remake, but they are not Bloodborne fans.
As a Bloodborne fan, Bloodborne may have been fine when it came out but it is NOT "fine as it is" locked to an over 10 year old console at sub 30fps, being kept hostage by Sony who refuse to do anything with it. The game deserves better and Sony needs to get their shit together.
People who don't want a PC port or even a 60fps upgrade aren't Bloodborne fans, they're Sony dickriders.
100% agree. I don't want any difference in the difficulty but FPS, BV farming, and runbacks make me not care to finish this game. I have a job and anything that feels like tedious busy work is anti-fun for me. I love banging my head against a wall but when there's a 2 minute run back and then every 2-3 attempts i need to farm for heals, it feels like the game doesn't value my time
You don't need to farm heals though the game gives them out like candy at Halloween
@@procow2274 in the beginning it does, but not later. I'm watching a guy now who's only died 30 times in 48 hours of gameplay in his first playthrough, ( he reads everything and runs back through the world to check on NPCs every 10 minutes,) and I've seen him run out of vials.
@@procow2274 so make the run back 5-10 minutes and fight all the enemies otw? wowzers! great advice!! almost like its the exact same fucking thing xD
If i remember right... A bunch of how the inputs stack and a couple other things on the back end require the 30 fps to work. And they just havent gotten around to fixing them .
I don't need 60 fps, just a launcher shortcut on desktop of my PC.
Bloodborne is a masterpiece, massively tied down by the platform it's on. When I played it when it first came out, I couldn't finish it. 30FPS is already hard to stomach, but the regular drops into 10-15 FPS were unacceptable. And the 1minute load screens whenever you teleport around were so annoying.
Until this comes to PC with 60+ FPS, I'd rather replay any other fromsoft game.
Its silly argument. It is just like saying that you cannot enjoy 10 years old movies, because they are only FHD and not 4 or 8k. Or that black and white movies suck, because their sound is worse, you cannot hear actors properly and the resolution is bad.
@@capollyon So tell me, how many black and white movies do you watch on a regular basis?
Also please note I never said anything sucks, just that I, personally, did not enjoy the experience with these technical limitations. Just because I personally don't enjoy something doesn't mean it sucks. I'm not making an argument, I just state my experience with a game.
@@capollyon That's not the same thing at all. Games are not movies. When you are actually interacting with the game, framerate matters. Low or inconsistent framerates make the game feel like shit to control.
@@JF-vz1ju it is the same thing. Lower sound and picture quality, lower FPS and frequency will change your experience sane way as with the game.
Bluepoint's remake of Demon's souls is not good at all. I hope they never get their hands near a Bloodborne remake.
Nice I’m about to boot up my ps4 and enjoy this game. I missed it a lot. Thanks for giving me something to do while I wait for the elden ring doc
It's still a timeless game, and i played it yesterday and enjoyed every minute
Starting to? It has been for years now. Sony's ignorance of this masterpiece is a travesty. Especially when they choose to remake mid games like Last of us over, and over, and over...
That "mid game" has sold almost 40 million copies while your "masterpiece" barely sold 3 million after 2 years of launch with the rest 4.46 million coming years later after it was heavily discounted
Numbers don't lie
@@bamban_garcia5562 Numbers don't fucking matter either. I've played indie games that probably sold under 100k that are far better than that AAA dogshit like GoW and TLoU. I bet you think FIFA and CoD are the best games ever made.
@@JF-vz1ju Mate sorry to burst your delusional bubble but numbers are the most important aspect to publishers / investors that decide if a sequel / remaster / remake is worth investing or not
Also no I do not think regurgitated yearly releases are the "best" never claimed them to be
No actual reason to insult anyone that disagrees with you based on official numbers that were showcased
No I like variety in my gaming as such most of the titles I own are either indie, AA or smaller experimental ones
Hell out of my almost 100 or so library only about 10 are AAA with all of them bought when they were heavily discounted or around the $20 price range
60 FPS.
Rest at lamps for fast travels.
No circle jumping.
Always start with 5 cursed bloodvials on respawn:
- (they givd you some small debuff for lore reasons. Blood too thin or some shit).
There was a custom Bloodborne hack this guy, Lance Macdonald did awhile back on a development PS5 console where he got the game to run at 60fps so it's definitely possible. Digital Foundry showcased it.
I beat this game like 3 years ago and beat all bosses including optional ones but never actually started the DLC until today and I still love this game!
Do people genuinely get bothered by the frame rate in this game?
From Dark Souls 3 onwards, the FromSoftware games run at high frame rates on PC. Fans of these games have gotten accustomed to that silky smooth gameplay compared to the first Dark Souls. We've had Dark Souls 3, Sekiro and Elden Ring in the eight to nine YEARS since Bloodborne came out. 60FPS is something you want to be able to take for granted at this point.
yes
after a year of playing Elden Ring, coming back to Bloodborne did hurt my eyes/head
game is still the greatest ever made, but would clearly need a remake treatment
@@ferland2501 idk man I played elden ring first and I never even noticed the frame rate in bloodborne until it got mentioned by other people to me
I'm confused with how people wouldn't get bothered by it. It is incredibly noticeable. It low key hurts my eyes playing Bloodborne.
crying over 30 fps,ridiculous.
I literally can't see the visual difference between 30 and 60 fps, maybe my vision is capped at 30 fps or something
Theyll remake the game... Wokeborne will happen.
Bloodborne was the first FromSoftware game I played. I quit after Father Consignee and I didn't play it for 5 years.When I came back to it, I played the whole game through, just taking more time more than the rushing I did originally. It helped that I found out how to actually level up as I had not known you need a certain item to do so. ;)
Laurence, the First Vicar took me over 2 weeks to finally beat. Without a doubt the most frustrating boss in the game. I beat Orphan of Kos on my very first attempt. I don't really mind having to go back to the Hunter's Dream to go to new zones, because I always felt that was them paying homage to Demon's Souls and The Nexus since they went away from that style with dark souls 1. Once I unlocked 'Moonlit Melody' in the Hunter's Dream, I loved going there any chance I could get just to relax to the music.
There is already video footage out of a modded ps5 with BB running at 60 FPS and no, there aren't any hardships. It's literally changing one value in one line of code to make it work properly.
I'm currently enjoying my time with Bloodborne, but I gotta admit that it does have issues. The blood vials initially scared me (although wasn't too bad because I barely died to bosses except rom) but what nearly got me to ragequit was the part after Rom, bullets took 80% of my life, some straight up oneshotting me (the three NPCs at the chapel, the...amygdalas (?) outside) and out of nowhere all of my build up confidence was completely gone...
I played this game for the first time 3 weeks ago, got the platinum without the save so I finished the game 3 times and for me, this game is really good, the 30 fps didnt bother me that much and for real I would recommend thia game to anyone who juste like to game haha like if you really like discovering a game, exploring every corner of the map you don't care if the game came out like 10 years ago. you just enjoy the experience. I think that a lot of people are too focus on the fact that a game need to be with the highest grafics and all. anyway haha great video my guy !! ( english is not my first language sorry if I made some syntaxe errors haha )
The load times for me have never been noticeable since i got a ps5. This video made me think about it just now. Its pretty quick.
Nioh 2 did an amazing healing system that has heals that you can farm/buy
I’ve been wanting to for that remake to drop for so long, it’ll happen
Hot take: I like constantly having to return to the Hunter’s Dream because of the music and I like seeing the Plain Doll.
Disc drive on my PS4 not working. Can't even play Bloodborne. 😭I went back to the PS3 to play the original demon's souls, dark souls 1 and 2
This was my second souls game. Played it in 2023 on a PS4, no complaints.
This is great. Love the video and 100% agree
In a interview regarding the shadow of the urd tree dlc, Miyazaki mentions that they have great love for Bloodborne, and that a remaster isn't off the table, but they want the technology to be better, he specifically said like how demon souls jumped two consoles, which suggests when ps6 comes around there is a decent chance we may get it, and Sony has said they are already working on the 6 and it shouldnt be too long, my hope, is that like demon souls remastered was a PS5 release game, I'm hoping Bloodborne will be a ps6 release game.
Icl I started ER around 6-8 months after release toward the end of 2022 and it became my favourite game of all time never tried From Soft games before ER was the first and I have clocked up to 550+ hours and platinumed the game then I already had BB in my library and I gave that a try sure like you say it’s an older game so naturally it’s gonna have its shortfalls but I still freakin loved it man and again went on to platinum the game and then platinum the DLC it’s Sekiro and Demon Souls I’m worried about 😅 imma do the ER DLC next then DS3 I think 💪🏼
I will love this game forever. Love LOVE
i like to think that the decision that healing is limited in bloodborne is most likely so the gameplay gets more aggressive so when ur in a fight u have it in mind that u shouldnt burn through ur vials and actually depend on the rally mechanic to heal, its still really annoying tho
Everyone always told me how beautiful this game was, but now that I'm finally playing it on PS5 I'm distracted by every fence and rooftop shimmering like a disco ball from the aliasing. I'm still enjoying the game but I have this constant background feeling of annoyance because it feels like I'm trying to ignore the visual goofs and low framerate, and it's hard to ignore.
Reading the title, I thought you would try to answer the question
I gave Bloodborne a shot the year it came out after being told to play it over and over again by a friend of mine. At that point I was aware of fromsoft games and their “heinous difficulty and rage inducing gameplay”. Reluctantly i picked it up because the aesthetic DID peek my interest. I got to father gascoine and rage quit. The unfairness (as I saw it then) was not worth it.
Time passed and I got into George RR Martin’s works. Learned that he would be involved with Elden Ring. Learned more about the concept of the game and saw trailers of the game. Thought to myself that at the very least the story would probably be incredible. Purchased Elden Ring maybe 2-3 months after its release and 180+ hours later finally saw the end credits. I finished the game having loved it immensely. It taught me how to absorb and extrapolate the story from a Souls game. Made the “i get it” combat click. I was hooked and wanted more. Only made sense to go back from the beginning. Dark Souls 1, then 2, then 3. Had wonderful experiences. I knew Sekiro was part of the conversation but I also knew that it was different. I wanted that very specific souls experience and I knew Sekiro wouldnt give me that. Im sure its great but I wanted something very specific. I knew i had to revisit bloodborne.
My experience of Bloodborne was a complete 180. Its perfect. Being not versed in the Souls style of gameplay It didnt take long to adapt to the new style. Rolling and blocking GONE. Now it was just side stepping and it was addictively fun and cool to perform. For some reason it was also way too intuitive for some reason. When it felt like the right time to dodge, it was. Elden Ring was just AOE attacks and Delayed Attacks that just frustrated me. But Bloodborne was more blunt! If they raised a weapon or limb at you it was immediately coming for my face! My timing was very good from the get go. I chalk it up to “well yeah i played 4 other souls games, i must have gotten gud” or whatever. Im no longer intimidated. The 30fps didnt bother me in the slightest. Ive been playing games for a long time, things weren’t always 60fps. If anything if the game was 60fps i dont think the side step would be as satisfying or cool looking cause that blur effects really sells that the character is moving too fast to see and really immerses the player in the action. If it were in 60fps it would loose that gritty roughness that is so visceral about bloodborne. Much how Demon Souls remake decided to keep the core mechanics in place as to not lose the feel, i would like that if a BB remake was done via Blue Point that they keep the 30fps. Just up the graphics and fidelity of everything else!
Motion blur is a thing even at 60 fps. 🙂
Bro you're stealing my fit😂❤
"why couldn't they just do 60 fps if the loading is better on ps5"
The loading improvements are not a patch, it's just a coincidental benefit because the hardware (PCI SSD) is that much better you see improvements even though they didn't actually do anything to the game. It has also improved the frame drops under 30 pretty significantly, but the pacing is still bad sometimes and that all has to do with the actual game which again, hasn't been touched in years.
I doubt we'll ever get a reason for why they haven't touched it, but I don't ever see people mention that this was co-developed by fromsoft with Japan Studio which Sony has axed so it's not unlikely that has something to do with it. That's a shame because they also made/had a hand in many other super underrated projects like puppeteer, gravity rush, etc.
I do love bloodbourne but its not the framerate the real issue to me is the controller input has some weird inconsistent lag and coupled w the framerate leads to some frustrating moments where i kinda give up in the endgame juat because i get frustrated its so good though just some issues that make me stop having fun at long lengths of play
With the current state of remakes being pumped with DEI, I'm actually glad this hasn't been remade yet
I share the sentiment, man. I have completed more than a dozen Bloodborne playthroughs, trying various weapons, and even doing a BL6 run (level 6 because I was using the Beasthunter Saif). After 800+ hours in Elden Ring and 4 back-to-back playthroughs of Lies of P, I decided to try Bloodborne. My gosh... It felt so clunky and non-responsive, and the 30 fps just looked horrendous.
I fell in love with these games and went on completing all of them and even completed Demon's Souls with an emulator and loved it. Unlike Steam, PS Store is not available in my country and requires to go through schemes with creating accounts in other regions, overpaying for psn gift cards or giving your account to other people to buy games which is just a headache not mentioning buying the PS itself for a good amount just for a few games but this part is my problem. I recently was able to aquire PS4 from my friend's friend just to complete Bloodborne (unfortunately without dlc) and I now fully understand how precious this game is. I will miss it once I return PS4.