How our Favourite Clone Commanders Moral Perspectives on War Differed so Drastically [Pt.1]
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Why our Favourite Clone Commanders Moral Perspectives on War Differed so Drastically
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Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:57 Commander Gree
3:34 Commander Cody
5:03 Commander Bacara
7:49 Outro 
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"All clones are made equal... Except some are more equal than others. Like Commandos. Commanders. Captains. ARC.... and we also have Regs."
Armor good, no armor bad
Null?
We should give every clone a copy of animal farm and 1984.
@@jacknedry3925 and that's how a clone rebellion on Camino started....
@@AndrewMitchell123,
Good!
Also, come to freedom, we have cookies!
Fascinating. I feel sorry for Gree. My head rolls in sympathy.
Ffs 🤣🤣🤣🤣
*Laughs in Jango Fett* 🤣🤣🤣
A guess he couldn’t get ahead of himself
I wonder if the author who created that character always loved anthropology, or maybe got into it through Star Wars? George Lucas always said he came out of anthropology and sociology and psychology, and his art was expressing his love and interests
Bro 🤣🤣
On Commander Cody, I actually have a theory related to his execution of Order 66:
Despite being a tactical clone commander who's fought alongside Obi-Wan, his decision of ordering an AT-TE's gunner to fire on Obi-Wan doesn't make that much sense. While yes It's due to plot armor because Obi-Wan was in the original trilogy, I also believe it was Cody's personality overriding the Inhibitor chip.
As shown later, Cody is certain Obi-Wan survived, but calls off the search after a airborne trooper tells him that no one could have survived the fall. For me, I think Cody had the gunner shoot at Obi-Wan because he knew Obi-Wan would survive.
One reason I list the decision to have an AT-TE gunner fire on Obi-Wan as being not very tactical is because, as we saw, the distance and height of Obi-Wan would mean that the blast wouldn't kill him. As Cody has fought alongside Kenobi for so long, he would have undoubtedly known that the decision would have allowed Kenobi to survive. Just a thought, at least.
Wouldn't shock me at all, as Obi-Wan and Cody were very close friends and very loyal to one another. Cody was very similar to Obi-Wan in terms of personality. He's a good man who was very empathetic, kind, and caring, although he was more reserved than Rex or Fives. I still remember his comments about "how people are what make cultures and cities" to Waxer, Boil, and Wooley in the Innocents of Ryloth episode while they were strolling through the abandoned city. They really need to continue his story and give him a proper conclusion. Hopefully Bad Batch, Kenobi, or something else will happen. It sucks that a character as insanely popular as Cody is still hasn't gotten more content made about him post-Order 66.
On a side note, Cody had some really good philosophical advice which he gave to others throughout Clone Wars.
That is surprisingly the first time I have heard of this theory and it's very possible
That theory would be great before inhabitor chip content (which I personally don't like)
I think you're reaching. that biast if aimed correctly would've vaporized him. If anything, the theory of a clone overriding his inhibitor chip falls on the Clone gunner, not Cody.
Oh, that is a great theory and one I hope is true. It might be, as we've seen Clones subtly resist the Inhibitor Chips at least a little bit to try and by time for others they don't want to hurt. We saw it with Jesse when he started to put his guns down but then raised them back up, it wasn't much, but Jesse did try. Wrecker too, we saw him hesitating to shoot Omega to give her time to escape or someone to come to the rescue as Rex did.
I fully believe in the theory that Clones can resist the Chips at least a bit in subtle ways, it might only buy the Jedi and their allies a few seconds, but sometimes a few seconds is enough and every bit helps. So I fully believe both Cody and the AT-TE Gunner to some extent as well, did everything they could to subtly resist the chip enough to still go through with the order but give Obi-Wan the best chance of surviving.
Gree: Passionate individual
Cody: Your average grumpy old man
Bachara: oRdERs
I love this thumbnail.
- Bacara : " We need to make a frontal assault with all the firepower we have to crush the enemy ! "
- Gree : " No, we will suffer too many losses, not to mention the natives taken hostage by the separatists ! "
- Cody : Just trying to calm the situation
Bacara: Death Korps of Krieg.exe
@@jackykwan3241 So true men, even the armor of the galactics marines looks a bit like the one of the Death Korps.
Anakin: Master Windu tell me a joke
Windu: The Rank of Jedi Master
Anakin: I don't get it
Windu: I know you don't
savage burn xD
@@AndrewMitchell123 Thank you I aim to please the masses
His name was Windu and he went out the Window.
I really wished to see more of Gree due to his interest in other cultures. I would definitely loved to see more of Bacara due how scary he can be by flat out blasting those who spoke out of line like what crosshair did
Yes, we would have seen the true side of Gree!
Imagine Gree meet Tech
Battle droid: you and I are not so different
Clone: I’m nothing like you clanker
Battle droid: despite everything you do for your masters eventually they will hate you cast you aside me
😪
Clone: "I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye"
@@SolracNexus Battle droid that has no actual eyes: "i missed the part where that's my problem"
@@realmario979 lol
I think Gree is my favorite clone commander for his loyalty to the republic, well excepting Rex but thats mainly because we got to know Rex better than any other clone. I like the idea of an alternate universe where yoda didn't kll Gree and escaped and Gree turned against the Empire and became a radical rebal commandet viewing the Empire as a usurper to his beloved republic to which he owed everything
Well we knew Cody as well so basically we know more about Cody and Rex along with the 501st and 212th better than any other company
I think of an alternate universe where you get some bitches💅💅💅💅
@@marielawrence468 Cody doesnt get anywhere near the same exposure as Rex in clone wars olus Rex is featured in Rebels, and Rex gets far more characterization than any other clone except maybe Fives. Cody ia honestly just the Clone Commander template
@@helghannationalist9798 i do now stop making stupid internet comments and go get one yourself kid
@@Bloodgulchblue anger leads to hate and hate leads to the Dark side young one.💅💅
Sure. But answer this question: if Order 66 was given WITHOUT the chip, which clones were more inclined to arrest their commanding Jedi?
Hmmmm...
Bacara would do so, but Cody and Gree...I doubt it
I disagree with Cody, @@jackykwan3241. Granted, I still believe he’d still shoot Kenobi because of the timing of Order 66 & where Obi-Wan was; if Kenobi was closer & wasn’t in danger of escaping (rules of the frontline), then I’m fairly certain Kenobi would’ve been arrested & such…
I guess most of them would side with Palpatine since most hated their jedi commander but i guess cody would side with obi if we are following canon relationship but in legends not so much the same cause they really had a professional relationship.
And that is probably the deciding factor, @@mohdfaheem5714: Professionalism. Order 66 & what it entails, when & where each individual Jedi were when it happens, as well as each commanding clone’s personal perspective as a sort of factor for different individual results & such; do the commanding clones belay that order until the fire fight ceases & they’re back at base OR do they shoot their commanding Jedi in the back (both extreme cases & such)?
Clone commanders are so freaking cool we to see more of them and know more about them
Would love to see part 2 of this with Rex, Bly and Neyo
Same
Well, almost the same
Commander Bacara: "Leave none alive in your wake. War is no place for cowards and weaklings."
Very fitting commander to serve under ki adi Mundi perhaps the most dogmatic of the jedi
@@yaboijardo2319 Pong Krell would like him
@@yaboijardo2319 I’m not so sure
always love analyzing the philosophy of different characters
How bout you analyze some bitches
Would love to hear the philosophies of Rex, Fordo, and Neyo if possible
A: Ok so what is your Characters alignment?
Bacara: Lawful
A: So good, neutral or evil?
Bacara: Lawful
A: No you have to pick ...
Bacara: Did you not understand me, Subordinate? *raises Blaster*
"There's a reason why you separate the military and the police. One fights the enemy of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people."
Sometimes, you just need to write lines like these down...
Gree: Once I kill Yoda I can study species all I want
Yoda: About to end this man's whole career, I am
lol
Bacara would make an awesome ruthless Stormtrooper commander in the Empire. Would love to see a story where he crushes some rebels.
Clone warriors: fighting their lives through clone wars, order 66 and dark ages
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Many Clone Wars fans don’t seem to understand this, many seem to believe that every clone is just like Rex and would do exactly what Rex would do, they somehow forget that many clones developed different personalities.
I always liked how the Clone Heavy class in BFII 2005 was directly modeled off of Bacara. When doing the Mygeeto mission, I always try and play as the Heavy and Commander so I can look as accurate as possible lol
Plot armor, that's all I can say.
Also partially because that's why they're our favorites.
2:56 nice halo infinite little reference 👌
A shame bacara wasn't included in the arc involving the second battle of geonosis.
I wish we had more arcs dedicated to other clone legions. I personally would've loved to see stuff on the Outer Rim Sieges, and then the rise of the Empire (the second Clone Wars thing)
@@theevildrummingsithlord1492 yeah it would be great.
Yeah specially cuz he wasnt there lol
I swear the clone commanders assigned to the Jedi were almost perfect parallels
Kinda
War changes men for the better or more he worst, and no doubt that the Clone Wars force the Clones to question their morals and ideals.
I know he hasnt had much screen time, but musing on what the philosophy of captain Fordo would have been would be fun, he dedicated his medal of honor to a fallen brother and was whiling to have his men fall back when being over run by B2s rather than stand and be slaughtered until yoda showed up, sounds like his mindset is loyalty to his brothers possibly even more than the Republic…
Your average clone: My is pointless, we were born to die but we shall continue fighting because our lives are sad and we have nothing else...
Your average Battle Droid chad: If enough circuits are programmed, the Republic is damned!
Yes a part two would be very cool maybe on Clone Commandos Commanders .
I love the fact that Gree is basically an anthropology nerd, I find that highly relatable.
I would kill for a game about Rex where you go around recruiting or killing old clone commanders for the Rebellion. Bioshock style.
Would really like to see an analysis on commander Fox. Definitely would want a 2nd part
You'd think with all the time he spent with Obi-Wan, Anakin, Rex, Fives, Echo, and all those other free-thinking Clones that Cody would have learned better than to be apathetic and just going through life, but I guess not.
I still have the hope that either Rex in The Bad Batch series or Obi-Wan in the Kenobi series will meet Cody and manage to get him to see he's fighting for the wrong side. The 212th deserves to be led by a smart Clone who isn't mindless, I still have the hope that Cody can be that Clone, if not, then Boil will have to lead what members of the 212th join Rex's Clone Rebellion when the time comes.
Having too many others around you who doesn't share your worldviews may ironically end up with you reinforcing your own instead after all. Cody, being the textbook commando from the get go, may have gotten tired of the freethinkers & goody-two-shoes around him who either question their orders all the time or take moral considerations seriously, & just wanna get the job done. Hell, he might have seen himself being the sensible one around the 'lunatics' around him who has to doubt stuff & ask questions all the time, who have all ironically made his life easier by making it unnecessary for him to question himself about what he does.
@@FalconWindblader wow....
Is love to see what happened to other clone commanders after order 66 in a series
Really glad you covered clone commander gree because he’s my favorite.
I had that Battlestar Galactica scene on full volume and I still couldn't hear it.
I just want to see Cody tell a squad of StormTroopers "Back in my day..."
Last time I was this early the younglings were still alive
2:55 I didn't realise Gree was a Spartan IV
I never noticed, but I guess that commander Gree and Crosshair had something in common. I’d love to see a part two to this video!
I'd say some bits in common when it comes to loyalty, but the differences between those 2 are far more pronounced.
Kinda want to see this for commander fox
He’s one of my favorite clone commanders personally and I think it’d be interesting to see what his thoughts are
So Commander Gree could be appears in Rex and Cody series or The Bad Batch season 2 as a Ghost, Cody already remove his chip by Disney, and Commander Baraca is unknown as he will be in Rex and Cody series.
he dead tho
The scene from Battle Star Galactica has an audio issue. Volume drops significantly compared to the rest of your video.
Great video. I am looking forward to a part II.
Includes clip of Adama, no audio, perfect words spoken by a legend
The wonderful thing about cloning is just how differently the personalities of each clone can be. Gives me hope for if cloning ever takes major root in the real world, if I'm honest
Yes pls part2 would be great. I'd love to see a bit on comander wolf
6:33 nice piece of art
For Part 2, while we have a large idea of how they felt, Neyo, Bly, and Fox would be an interesting video. Neyo was cold and was a lot like Bacara, but that didn’t mean he was the same. Bly was compassionate and cared for Aayla and his men, but was that always the case? As for Fox, he was a rule follower and would never deny an order and would do his job to the fullest, but since he never experienced true combat, what were his views on the war that he didn’t really fight in?
2:55 didn't know we had Spartans in Star Wars
I really enjoyed this video
Amazing video, man, keep up this work. Would love more like this.
Yes make a part 2 plz. Your vidz are awesome I can’t understand how you don’t have more subscribers but yeah I would like to see more of this analyzation of individual clones, if that makes sense lol. Thnx, peace ✌🏼 and live long and prosper 🖖🏼 my friends
Hello there
General Kenobi! You are a bold one
General Kenobi
Oh cool, this came out yesterday! :D
That means I can vote for part two! :D
Yes please! :D
So... basically, Bacara was the star wars version of Judge Dredd? That sounds... pretty dang cool, to be honest.
I laughed when I saw a halo infinite spartan in place of gree 😂
A scientific geek and a badass grunt?? Are you kidding me? I would love him like my own.
I'd love to see a re-analysis of cody once the bad batch is done
2:54 Gree be looking like a Halo Spartan here
A Battlestar reference in a Star Wars video. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
I’m sad we didn’t see more of Cody. I’d imagine e him more like echo. A rule follower who was fiercely loyal to the republic in the beginning of the war, but as it went on, became a little more like Rex.
Of those 3, my favourite clone commander is Gree: Despite of his unconditional loyalty to the Republic and his hatred against traitors (even alleged ones), he's still some kind of a rebel: His interest in non-human species makes him rebellious in a way - As the Republic was xenophobic, at least in the Core Worlds.
This, to be honest, would've been interesting if Yoda didn't choose to kill Gree in self-defense, but set Gree and his soldiers uncapable to fight.
Gree was a smart one, he may have noticed that the Republic he swore to protect, did not exist anymore.
His possibilities may have been very different: From retiring from the GAR and intensify his studies about alien cultures, to join the rebellion (like Rex and Wolffe did)...
4:08 Apparently Kreia can telepathically tell when someone says the word "Apathy"
University Lecturer: I wonder what happened to that Gree fellow?
Hope everybody had a good Thanksgiving I know I didnt 😆
Definitely more of this, please and thank you
Curious. I knew Bacara was an extremist but didn’t know where it came from. Cody makes sense. Gree, it’s a shame he wasn’t able to avoid Order 66. He would have been an invaluable unifying force for the rebellion with his knack for comprehending alien cultures; unfortunately I doubt he’d break away from his loyalty to the republic/empire even in retirement.
Didn't expect a clip from BSG 2003.
Won't be long before we get clips from either Babylon 5, Stargate SG-1, Farscape, and/or Firefly/Serenity, I might say; maybe even some clips from Red vs. Blue (seriously, for a comedy, it sure has some deep quotes).
Oh yeah, there are a lot of great Red vs Blue clips that can work with Star Wars, like Kimbell's speech in season 13 to get the Feds and the New Republic to work together and how it beautifully reflects wars like The Clone Wars and other wars from Star Wars.
Kimbell: When you spend every day fighting a war, you learn to demonize your enemies. To you there evil, their sub Human, because if they weren't, what would that make you?
Thanks part 2 would be dope !
Please do a part 2 including Bly and or Neo
Run and gun and getter done best clone tactics
One of the things that’s incredibly sad to me is that so many of the clones would not have betrayed were it not for the inhibitor chips
A lot of good people lost their free wills when order 66 went down
I freakin love this channel
Why order 66 happened:
Legends: complex mix of clone ideology, training, propaganda and Palpatines careful preparation
Disney: miCrO cHipS
The Republic and the Jedi are not the only ones who enslaved the clones. Their own morals and beliefs within the Republic too have enslaved them from inside out.
The main reason why brainwashing & propaganda are so damn effective. It's quite hard to counter your upbringing when just about everyone around you behaves the same way, & with the people who're technically your slavers breathing down your neck, yet doesn't necessarily mistreat you.
The Jedi never enslaved them they were already slaves when they found them
Yes to part 2 of this video
Some of them get a raw deal in the Clone Wars.
Yeah I like Rex, but I would of loved seeing the other clones outside of the 501st developed more.
Could of had a good arc with Gree and Yoda discussing the native population of a previously unexplored planet.
Bacara would of been excellent to build on during Ahsokas frame arc.
Cody could of been a real joker, there is clips of him being funny, they should of made him enjoy comedy.
Missed opportunities really, the arc with Gree and Yoda could of shown how first contact is treated during that time.
Don't get me wrong the clone wars is a good series, if you look at it without rose tinted glasses you see there was alot they could of went in too.
Really adding onto the lore of the series.
We need a show about all these clone commanders
Can you do a video like this on commander doom I think he is such a interesting character.
This is such a great video pls have a part 2 and if possible can commander Bly be in it if you do play
Yes please to a second part
Love the BSG cuts!
I once saw a bumper sticker that I just know Gree would love. "Join the Army. See interesting places...and blow them up. Meet interesting people...then kill them."
Sounds like something Sev would say.
Here’s a sad fact about fox: after shooting fives, he ran outside of the warehouse to mourn fives knowing what he just did. That why we don’t see him in the circle. TLDR, Stone, Fives and Thorn dying affected Fox in a really bad way.
Yes yes yes part 2 to part 66 let’s do it!
Really, really want a part 2. Please do Neyo.
Oh yes my favorite one is regalactic Marines basically fight like the Soviet Union waves of clones
Bring on Part 2!
Hope you do more of these like with Fox, and Doom
Part 2 for sure
Anyone gunna talk about 2:54 ? Thats some damn cool art
I would like to see more.
I just realized, that clone camo Gree is wearing makes 0 sense with his bright white helmet. What kind of environment is he trying to blend in, grassy snow?
Bacara: “But Lord Chancellor, is that _Legal??”_
Palpatine: “I will _Make_ it legal!”
Bacara: “Oh, well, ok then. Carry on.”
This was a very cool 😎 neat video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Hello there?"3:58
that clip of BSG was like 5% volume XD
Part 2 PLZ!