@@filthiman I don't think he was talking about a force ability, I think he was referencing Bastila and the amnesiac Revan, who managed to escape the planet of Taris while it was in the process of being "glassed."
@@demi-femme4821 according to the comics the force of bullets moving through the air is so strong that it’s incredibly exhausting to the point of said Jedi falling unconscious due to the strain if using force push, that they just avoid people who use slug throwers. That’s why Jedi hunters use slug throwers.
@@Gloria-victrix99857 absolutely, also try to get some Mandalorian Iron armor, or some other similarly strong armor, get some really attractive people to seduce said one Jedi or multiple Jedi, while the Jedi is distracted the attractive person can stab them with a knife. If they are women or aliens that both genders wear make up, create lipstick or lip gloss that has a drug that makes people fall asleep within seconds and stay asleep. And then kill them. I also use personal energy shields in case the Jedi fights off the affects of said make up and attacks you. All hail the Galactic Empire.
I feel that scatterguns would do well against Jedi it covers a wide area so Jedi can't block it easily and they typically fight at close range so the closer they are the more dangerous it gets.
At range, scatterguns still wouldn't do shit, since they could just block the shots with the Force instead of their lightsabers (the reason why they used lightsabers to deflect blaster bolts is because doing so is less exhausting after all). Up close, however, scatterguns would be very devastating.
It would all depend on a Jedi’s reflexes and precognition. A scattergun would be harder to block sure, but they’re not blocking kinetic shots/slugs anyway. They could easily use the force to stop buckshot as a slug. Probably the best bet is anything automatic with a high rate of fire, bonus points for an automatic scattergun/shotgun!
Play Kotor 2. Do a dark side walkthrough. When you have enough influence with HK, ask him how to kill a jedi? He'll tell enough points for you to write a book
Not great for trying to get the resources planet side if they're all glowing, though honestly a tactical device could be considered "asset management."
@@zachelkins1229 Yeah even a tac nuke that could only do a few blocks would do the trick assuming your targeting system is reliable enough. Otherwise you'd just use the smallest option available. The rest of the planet will be fine if a few city blocks produce a few weird radiation fueled force mutants. Hell the Sith might see that as an absolute win.
nuking a planet for a guy that can be killed with just a machine guy is stupid. use high rate of fire projectile wepons with either poisoned or any other special type of bullets , and there goes your jedi. a single bullet hitting is a death sentence. Attack from 2 sides for higher effectivness
Grievous always loved to deadlock the Jedi with either two of his lightsabers and use his extended arms to impale targets...Too bad this method didn't worked with the fully plot armored Obi-Wan, but he tried to so the same moves during that duel.
I mean if course he had plot armor but he was also the reigning form 3 master of the era, I don’t really put it past him to deal with Greivous’ party trick
@@eddieram435 awwww I’m sorry did you make a comment that someone then replied to? One of the most commonly used functions on RUclips? I’m so sorry for you mate
Yeah, having an extra Saber on your back/hip and a blaster on your leg seems like it would be a really good idea when you realize it's easy to carry around a spare weapon. Imagine the amount of Jedi that have died since they were disarmed and easily could've lived had they just had a spare 😅
You have all that tradition bollocks about blasters being 'crude & uncivilized', & that their lightsabers having symbolic significance to blame for that.
Hell, even a small vibroknife and a couple ball bearings. Just imagine what a Jedi with good skill and power in telekinesis could do. No need to light up the Lightsaber, take them out from distance and in stealth.
Sonic Rounds, Sonic mines etc. Effect their hearing right, effect their ability to use the force. Never hold Ill will toward them. When you attack, only aim to maim and kill their allies. They’ll have trouble pinning you down due to sudden losses of life as their Allie’s fall.
Flash pistols and rifles were also good. They are like a blaster but, the bolt isn't as dense and because of this the bolt breaks up when a lightsaber hits it. The downside is that they don't have the range of a blaster. So, you have to get closer than you would like generally. They were a precursor to true blasters. Flamethrowers, sonic weapons, explosives, and slugs throwers loaded with slugs that have toxic substances or acids in them, or similar weapons, also work well. My favorite is though is starship weapons.
Jedi also wouldn’t be able to stop an actual laser. The blasters of course shoot plasma. A laser could go through and travels at the speed of light with pinpoint accuracy, so no way a Jedi can stop it.
@@pieter-bashoogsteen2283 Also true. But besides a few select sniper rifles and other rare weapons true lasers were extremely rare in the Star Wars universe.
I feel like poisoned flechette/shot slug throwers would be an interesting alternative to the flame thrower with a bit more range. Gotta be careful with rockets and the like as they could be thrown back, but HE and fragmentation both do nasty things to fleshy bits. More to my observation though has there been any documented use of directed radiation weapons in either Canon or Legends?
@@thalmoragent9344 yeah ionizing radiation. You can get lethal doses from fairly easy to acquire/manufacture sources and using proper shielding and shuttering can effectively make it a beam. It's major part of why broken medical imaging equipment is such a hazard.
The defoliator super weapon tank in TCW obliterated organic matter while leaving droid parts intact. Not quite radiation but a unique weapon that would work quite well if not used against main characters with plot armor.
I always thought that you could get around this issue using triple firing blasters. A jedi can angle their lightsaber in a way that can deflect 2 blaster bolts, but not three. Or alternatively if you have a group of soldiers with regular blasters, you can divide them into groups of 3 with a group leader, so that they will only fire simultaneously every time the leader shouts ''fire''. That's what i would do if i was trying to kill a jedi.
mind-linked droids, like federation B1s. but have lots of small central control computers for redundancy. the control computers can get all droids to fire at exactly the same time
Yep. Overwhelming force is a tried and true method to kill Jedi. You might lose some man power in the exchange, but this is certainly a way to go about it
Kenobi: Use either the HIGH GROUND or sand. Always gets the job done *General Grievous taking notes* Later in the war... Palpatine did not order execute order 66 as only 69 jedi remain
I can say without hesitation the minefield tactic works playing jedi outcast that trap works because you never see it coming until you have to restart the level and the only way to detect the mines is by chucking grenades in front of you.
I prefer using a gravity generator to pin them to the ground and then deliver a coup de grâce with a disruptor pistol at a distance of at least two meters, well outside the reach of their lightsaber - just in case. This has the problem of only really working in a one-on-one situation, most grav generators aren't going to have a large enough field of effect to pin more than one target, so if there's more than one Jedi, it's best to retreat and find a way to split them up. Carrying a ysalamir is also a hard counter to the Jedi's use of the Force.
The force itself is a counter to that... I jedi can disrupt fairly easy a antigravity generator with their minds... I think folks don't get it the whole telekinesis thing... Jedi just don't blast things with force blast, force blast is essentially a telekinetic shockwave, also folks think is easy hide their thoughts, but it isn't, especially for common folks like us who never even worry about having other people in our heads, telepathy is one of jedi powers. Let us see: telepathy, telekinesis precognition, enhanced speed and agility, some degree of super human strength, and resilience (yes, you can do that with telekinesis) in fact vast majority of jedi powers is connected with telekinesis ability. A well trained jedi can basically tap quantum physics in their favor with telekinesis. Once you control such ability to such degree, you can literally control the universe. To understand better this ability, Star Wars isn't the best source at this explanation because it isn't fully grounded on our reality. A better character to study this ability is Jean Grey / Phoenix from X-Men. Her powers enhanced with the Phoenix force are beyond omega level in her case are cosmic scale. Because she can literally tap on quantum physics with telekinesis.
@@efxnews4776 That's why you bring the ysalamir. It creates a 'bubble' (for lack of a better word) where the Force simply doesn't function. The gravity generator is just to keep them stationary and to keep that lightsaber out of the way while the death blow is inflicted. The ysalamir protects me from any retaliation while the Jedi is pinned.
This is a very intuitive analysis. Well planned with equipment to boot to counteract the strong possibility of the Jedi breaking free of the trap. I think my only criticism would be having a backup weapon on hand such as a flamethrower or even an environmental hazard in the case that the Jedi gives you more trouble. Now all you need is good timing and you have just bagged a Jedi kill. Nicely done
One very important thing that was forgotten is doubt it’s killed many sith and Jedi. For example Darth sion who wouldn’t die to any attack even from Darth nihilus
I'd say he just really wanted to die by the end. Holding your shattered body together using nothing but willpower and the force has got to be a fate worse than death regardless of if you consider becoming one with the force to be oblivion or not. I mean, heck, I'd prefer not existing at all compared to the pain he must have experienced every second of his existence.
I will say that Bullets being melted by light sabers and throwing molten slag into the jedi's face was cannon up until the clone wars came out (was in a comic detailing Jango Fett's origin story and the only reason it's not cannon is because they changed up the deathwatch in the clone wars). And fun fact, the reason so many Mandalorians use twin blaster pistols to overwhelm a jedi's defenses. First and foremost, their lightsaber can't be in two places at once so two blasters helps a lot in getting past that. on top of this, the more shots you are throwing at a Jedi, the more they have to concentrate on blocking them and the less time they have to use the force on you (this is why Maul didn't instantly win the fight with VIzla). Essentially the key is keeping them off balance, the more confused they are the less capable they are of using the force or blocking your attacks. Or grab a shotgun. Doesn't really matter whether its blaster based, or slug based because either it's to many slugs to block with the force all at once (unless it's a master jedi, and even then, it's worth a shot), or it's way too many blaster bolts to block with a lightsaber. either way you are going to have one dead jedi. keep in mind as well that Yoda said in Revenge of the Sith that size does not matter to the force, meaning that one can lift one small object as easily as one can left at large object. But even the best Jedi seem to struggle with Handling many objects. just look at how much concentration it takes to lift even single objects for a Master Jedi (Yoda, "Revenge of the Sith" and "Attack of the Clones"). The Jedi's precognition is great however when it comes to something moving as fast as bullets there is simply no time to gather the concentration needed to stop them. Move the guns yes. Stop a wave of darts, sure (as seen in the video). Place one's lightsaber in the way of said bullets before they fire, absolutely. But, especially at the ranges that Star Wars battles take place in, there simply isn't enough time to stop a bullet (Blaster bolts are ridiculously slow when compared to firearms, after all an onlooker can follow the entire trajectory of a blaster bolt at close range. not at long range like you see with modern tracers.
Use beautiful men and women to flirts with the target, remember they’re not trained to handle their emotions. Also they’ll probably have no experience with anyone flirting with them.
@@pieter-bashoogsteen2283 but modern firearms do not exist in the Star Wars universe. They’re more akin to bolt action and do not have the necessary stopping power to be effective weapons of war. They’re seen as primitive and crude, and rightly so. Energy shields, quality armor, even decently armored battle droids are more than a match for kinetic weapons in the Star Wars universe. Ridiculous to us, but that’s how it is in Star Wars. If slug-throwers do not have the piercing power to be a threat to battle droids I’m more than confident that a Jedi could moderately defend against them
I like your videos Geetsly's and this one was very enjoyable. That being said, you did miss three additional ways in killing Jedi. 1. Use stun weapons. They don't get reflected back and can knockout the Jedi which will leave them open for a killing blow. The drawbacks are close range and there are force techniques that can dull the sense of touch which could work in resisting stun weapons. 2. Use sonic weapons. As the name suggests, these weapons send out a wave of sonic energy which cannot be stopped by a lightsaber. The only problem is that these types of weapons are very uncommon. Only the Geonosians know how to make these weapons to my knowledge. 3. The Ysalamiri. These creatures can push back the Force, creating a bubble where the Force cannot go. And if you can get in close, then the Jedi would be severed from the Force leaving them open for an attack. Not to mention having the Force stripped from them in a moment would be very disorienting for the Jedi. The only problem, finding these creatures and keeping them healthy. These are a few more ways to improve your Jedi hunting career.
Stun weaponry is, by and large, far too slow, and the projectiles we have seen are quite large, making them rather easy to deflect compared to blasters. Sonic weaponry, and other such unconventional things, are indeed a big one, although if the Jedi has any brains at all, they are likely to just start vigoursly dodging and jumping around to close the distance rather then try to block. Yslamari are of course a hard counter to almost anybody, but then, Yslamari are also ridiculously difficult to even know about, nevermind acquire, for the VAST majority of galactic history. No one bar a small select few even knew Myrkr existed up until the NR era.
@@michaelolmos8257 These are certainly an....interesting selection, if very extremely Imperium and human centric (to a degree that seems like a detriment, frankly). Some of these are good options, but the majority of your list, I.E, the flamer/chem thrower, ripper gun, Exitus, radium weapons, macrostubber, and perhaps the bolter are....debatable at best. Both flamers/chem throwers and radium weaponry could be dealt with via Force abuse fairly easily so far as I'm aware, although the latter would likely be a serious problem over time. Dual macrostubbers is an amusingly comical idea, but could just be dealt with via screwing with the weapon itself and/or vigorously dodging. Although frankly, with that level of recoil, unless the person shooting it is an Astartes (and why would they do that?) a Force user probably wouldn't even need to do anything. A far better option is a simple lascannon honestly, due to the infinitely faster projectile speed and probably a close to equal RPM. Ripper guns are already extremely inaccurate by nature, and close range to boot. They almost certainly couldn't be blocked, no, but dodging is always an option. Ogryns in general are quite possibly the LAST possible thing you want to utilize against the infantry mulching precognitive magical space wizards, unless Ogryns got lightsaber proof skin when I wasn't looking, or much faster and intelligent for that matter. Exitus', like virtually ANY sniper weapon I care to think of, suffer the same inherent issue, which is that surprise alpha strikes are almost never the way to go with a Force user that isn't a drooling idiot. The precognition renders the idea moot by default. The psy cannon and psilencer may also be iffy depending on how they interact with Force users, due to how specialized they are for anti-daemon work, but honestly I have no earthly idea. It would depend on the aforementioned, the projectile speed, RPM, and so on. And bolters, like so many of the weapons listed, ultimately depend solely on how you interpret a saber interaction would go. I would wager they would be EXTREMELY effective indeed even if they don't detonate simply via the momentum transfer trying to rip the poor souls arms off, but that, again, depends on how much momentum would be imparted through the saber to the user. Even regardless of that, though, they are so fast and have such a high rate of fire that they are likely the best option by a league. Although really, virtually all of these weapons are either exotic or rare in some capacity, OR are heavy weaponry, OR are outright anti armor. Or all of the above, even. Shooting a fucking multi melta at an average Jedi or Sith is disgusting overkill unless they immediately blitz out of the way at full speed or they leap like they never have before. The usual disclaimers also apply as well to all of these; Force users, upon figuring out blocking isn't working, are under no obligation to keep doing so, meaning they can just abuse that vastly superhuman speed and agility for all its worth, and unless the enemy is similarly superhuman (albeit far more common in 40k than most settings), or the practices are either hideously fast and/or very exotic, there's not much the gunner can do to counter it. And of course, even if THAT doesn't work, just fucking with the weapon itself is always an easy option as well. Sith especially have no reason not to instantly abuse the Force the moment they get the chance.
@@michaelolmos8257 As a sidenote, since I totally forgot; vortex grenades, like most grenades, are an absolutely awful option for fighting Force users. You would be very lucky if they don't just pull the pin on you and laugh, or send it back at you mid air. Add in that they have a relatively small radius and that they are hyper rare, and its not even vaguely worth it.
Wasn’t there also something somewhere about the use of sonic weapons to throw off a Jedi’s focus/make it more difficult for them to concentrate on the Force? 🤔
So be unpredictable and don't think about the fight..... already my tactics if I have to be anywhere but behind the long gun. Hell last hard sparring session I was deciding what I was gonna make for dinner.
For blasters/slug throwers/projectile weapons…. Volume of fire and something that would direct/lure a Jedi to where YOU wanted to engage them… vibro (axe, blade, etc) weapons….
From what I've read, Mandos liked slugthrowers for fighting *Mandos,* for the effect of the impact on the foe wearing the beskar. In rare cases, a powerful slugthrower or poor quality plate might even allow the projectile to smash through.
He completely skipped disruptors yeah. The bolts do similar things to lightsabers as they do shields so disruptors are perfectly capable of taking jedi down, I used to build Atton Rand as a dual pistol wielder and then just pick up the customizable mandalorian pistols on Dxun.
The only problem is disruptors are quite inaccurate and have extremely short ranges. They’re definitely a good choice of weapon, but only if you can hamper your target well enough to get in and take a good shot
@@pewpewplasma3793 That's not necessarily true. If you've ever played Jedi Outcast or Jedi Academy, you'd know about the Disruptor Rifle, which serves as the sniper rifle in those games.
You could also kill/torture so many civilians that the jedi would not be able to focus on thair connection to the force. It's a rather terrible strategy but seems to be working.
Airburst explosives and/or thermobaric weapons would work well. But I think the best strategy when attacking a jedi directly would be to reley on less-lethal weapons. Don't do it yourself. Hire someone talented to incapacitate and capture the jedi. If the attacker has no intention to kill, the force would give a much weaker warning about the upcomming attack, if any at all. Use things that are already available off-the-shelf today: Sound projectors, microwave-aerea denial systems, tear gas, lasers designed to cause temporary blindnes... all those things can be used to weaken the jedi before going in with stun guns. Positive side effect: if you don't intend to kill, the jedi would be obliged to show mercy to you as well, if your attack goes south. Once your hired gun has incapacitated the jedi for you, you can move in for the kill.
@@papapalps2415 No proof, just assumption and one piece of possible evidence hinting at it. My assumption is based on the fact that the force is inseperately connected to life. Every death disturbs the force to an extent. So, leathal intent would cause a bigger stir than non-leathal intent. I would also assume that the intent to kill is backed by stronger emotions than the intent to subdue. The hint I am thinking of comes from the fate of the Jedi sieries, when Caedus' henchmen took the Jedi academy hostage and at one point used sleeping gas to subdue Jaina. Despite her being strong in the force and well trained, she recieved no warning until the students contacted her through the force while the attack was already well underway. I call it a possible evidence since the alternative explanation might be that she was just a very sound sleeper...
@@Bird_Dog00 Right. So nothing but supposition then, 'backed' by nothing but a singular instance of poor writing, from a novel series absolutely diseased with poor writing. Like I implied, this simply...isn't true. For one, that would make well programmed droids incredibly hard counters to Jedi. They...uh, aren't. Frankly, I don't know why you are even bringing emotions or such into this to begin with. Precognition has zero relevance to a users emotional state fundamentally speaking. Its simply seeing the future a little bit in advance, not glorified empathy/telepathy.
@@papapalps2415 Maybe it's because bring tone across in writing is difficult, but to me, you sound rather... agressive about this. Why is that? Besides that, I'd like to think that I'm alwalys open to be corrected if I'm wrong, provided the person doing is is reasonably polite about it. So, since you point out that I lack evidence for my position, could you enlighten me and provide some examples supporting your position? Further, to answer your question as to why I'm bringing emotion into this: Well, I always go the impression that emotions - or the emotional state of a force user - is kind of a big deal with the force and its use. Y'know, light side must controll emotion and find balance and serenity, dark side feeding on strong emotions... So, I see a theme with emotions and the force.
@@Bird_Dog00 Because you initially tried to pretend your silly theory was a completely viable tactic, instead of being nothing but a pet theory based on nothing? If you had simply noted as much in the first place I wouldn't be so inclined to distrust you. Regardless, I don't need to prove anything. Its up to you to show that a singular instance in a single novel series that may or may not even demonstrate your point is evidence, not mine. Like I said, if that were true, then droids, due to being more or less absent from the Force in a biological sense for obvious reasons would be very difficult to deal with for Jedi, as 'hostile intent' from a non sapient droid is rather fundamentally different then an organics. This...isn't even vaguely close to being the case, suffice to say. I mean, Christ, you want examples of this? The very first establishing scene for the Force in the entire franchise, the training on the Falcom on ANH, is an obvious one. Unless you believe those training remotes had lethal intent, as well? Or perhaps Jar-Jar Binks did as well when he was trying to steal food, as Qui-Gon was explaining how his pre cog works? Again, precognition is very much not tied to a Force users emotions fundamentally. Heavily influenced by, yes, but precognition is one of THE singular most basic aspects of being a Force user. Even totally untrained children like Anakin or such have it to some degree. Emotions will effect how good it is, yes, but precog won't just magically cease to function.
Statement: There are few Jedi that can long hold their ground against a hundred attackers all firing at once... or being turned on by their own troops.
A machine gun along the lines of the German MG-42 would probably do the job. Also imagine a semi-auto shotgun like a Saiga would be extremely difficult if not impossible for a Jedi to deflect as there would be several slugs incoming at once.
I mean you’re not wrong, but that’s not how kinetic weapon technology works in Star Wars. They’re more often than not akin to bolt action and largely ineffective at having the piercing or stopping power necessary to be preferred weapons of warfare. Any quality armor could protect a wearer from the shot, hell energy shields do even better. See Republic Commando. Bullets in Star Wars do not equal bullets in reality. It’s ludicrous to us, because it is, but they are primitive and crude weapons. A Jedi could moderately defend against a slug-thrower no doubt.
Too the point about Scatterguns, these were used. Mandalorians used these sometimes in a convenient wrist mounted form. Durge also used it, amongst others.
So basically my most effective weapons against a jedi are my brothers. Scirch with explosives and sev with his sniper. But i dont know how we should distract them, we weren't trained for that. Maybe scorch could Tell them a few jokes?
Well, for someone that played the jedi knight saga, rocket launchers and missiles were super easy to dodge and shoot back at the shooter, a simple force push and away they went.
Geetsly's Jedi vids are not only my favorite topic on this channel but, they're some of the best Star Wars content that you'll find anywhere. Much appreciated 🙏
Have to say, I love the line 'very few jedi could hold out against entire armies for long'... just the first bit, very few, as in you could send an entire army, and it was still not a guaranteed success.
Laser based weaponry (not Tabanna gas based plasma), flamethrower, slugthtowers paired with rounds that won't melt in the millisecond where it is passing through the Saber. Pre-planted explosives. Kill the ship they are on. There are plenty of ways to take on a Jedi and win.
You kinda forget that the lightsaber blades act like they're solid in the first place, instead of mere streams of plasma. Slugs that won't melt under such intense hit would only be swatted down or sent flying elsewhere when they hit the blades, instead of passing through the blades.
Don't know whether this is covered under rockets but the little bescar "rockets" mando uses should also be quite effective. They are quite small, fast and deadly and on top of that seem to have some kind of intelligent navigation system. I think in short you could say: mandalorian armor and equipment since they basically perfected the "art" of killing jedi during their wars. I mean Pre Vizla wasn't able to hold up to Maul that long just by chance... Cad Bane also copied mayor functions of said armor
Everyone forgets you can do a Thrawn and go grab some ysalamri lizards that block the use of the force and thus render a jedi's powers completely useless as they could even stop force lightning with the void like bubbles they produced. So if paired with competent hunters and weapons just get them in the bubble and then gun them down.
that moment when you find out anton in kotor 2 was a jedi killer is quite impressive. i had earlier been mind reading him, and your like he is playing cards in his head? ok thats odd. then you find out he regularly was just playing pazzak in his head, walked behind a jedi, then casually stabbed him. that was quite chilling.
"Blaster fire is useless against Jedi Knights". *Me:* A guy who has seen multiple times how lightsaber heroes are blasted down to the death due to an intense frontal blaster barrage in BF II in command posts or even in random parts of the map, depleting even the stamina of Obi-Wans: *Visible confusion*
I always thought it was clever showing Jango so effortlessly killing the Jedi that tried to jump Dooku in Ep 2, it showed that Jango knew how to kill a Jedi, and that's exactly what Sidious wanted in a clone army candidate.
Yes, I do find this topic very interesting XD On a serious note tho, I agree. Things like mines, coordinated long-range attacks, or the old jetpack-flamethrower combo are always a better idea than "just shoot them".
I wrote a story where Boba Fett, for complicated reasons, fought post-Rebels Ahsoka. He started with the flamethrower, used his jetpack to counteract the Force Push and fired a missile, rushed her with the flamethrower to make her flip over and attack his jetpack, then jettisoned the jetpack and used his whipcord to wrap up and electrocute Ahsoka. If it weren't for all the times Ahsoka had that happen to her, Boba would win. But, Ahsoka has been electrocuted enough that she could stand her ground and levitate a saber to cut the whipcord. Even then, Fett had the advantage, and it was only because the jetpack happened to impact against an unstable structure that caused a collapse that Ahsoka won. Edit: Ahsoka also had to keep a kid from getting killed, so Fett could engage her directly without too much worry.
Considering that Boba got rekt by both young Luke and Han Solo, and that post-Rebels Ahsoka could hold her own against Vader, I don't think Boba would stand a chance. Ahsoka could grip him with the force and rag doll him.
Poison gas is only good as a distraction for a Jedi as it causes them to divert their concentration. Flammable gas is also advisable to be ignited if capture is impossible. The capture of Darth Bane is a good template but that requires too many conditions to be met.
You actually did a pretty good job. Although you should definitely specify that you shouldn't try to use Revens methods on a sith. At least as they are. This was discussed in Darth Bane.
What happened to using bullets? Blasters are slow af, just use a machine gun🤣 Sure they could force push them back, but most force users seem to need a few moments to get that ready.
Heavy, expensive, and inacurate compared to blasters. One blaster pack can shoot over ten times the bolts as a slugthrower magazine could. Plus, no need to mix or ratio gunpowder for each bullet.
What if you made a gattling type weapon that shot Slugs AND Blaster Bolts? Jedi would have the ultimate Oh Shit moment from not having enough breathing room to tell the slugs from the bolts.
@@cioplasmmajic8327 You don't need to be accurate when you can spit out 900 rounds a minute fuckhuge speed. I don't care how precognitive jedi are, you're not dodging or force stopping that much lead unless you're Yoda or Starkiller tier in the Force.
@@samueldimmock694 What are the chances of that, they've never done it against stormtroopers. Even if they pick up the gun, can they pull tbe trigger? I think most Jedi are like Psylocke, sure she can do big actions, crush a tank with her telekinesis like it''s nothing...but doesn't have enough focus to pick up a quarter.🤣
Not really sure about the explosives tactic. Ever play "Duke Nukem Forever"? Octabrains more-or-less have the force, and if you try throwing/shooting anything explosive at them, they throw it right back. No reason a Jedi couldn't do the same.
Nice list. I think Loremaster has a similar type for weapons to off a jedi, also pointing out the slug blocking and even fire blocking; both requiring SKILL and FOCUS from the force user. So yeah, disrupt the focus by any means, like Grievious with FEAR and surprise, comboed with his intimidating visage, and survival chance rises.
4:46-4:51: Oh please. Like Cad Bane said any idiot can kill a Jedi with a sniper rifle. It takes real skill to fight a Jedi head on and kill them face to face, maybe even with your bare hands, like Cad and others could do. Also, why is the info in the title More Dakka? What does Dakka, the Nightsister who raised that army of the undead to fight against the Separatists when they invaded Dathomir, have to do with killing Jedi? Are zombies another weakness to the Jedi?
To be fair Bane was talking about clone wars era Jedi. They were substantially 'weaker' (as in not willing to kill) and not as battle hardened as Jedi from the old wars.
Depends on the zombie, but I could see "locked in" types being devastating to the empathic jedi. Likewise you tend to ignore threats you think you've already removed.
Sith weakness: betrayal, treachery ,deadly infighting that is worse than a civil war, desire to kill their force kin putting a galaxy sized target on their backs for conquering and destroying and finally darkside degradation.
(2:21) The average slugthrower seen in Star Wars is more akin to a bolt action rifle, rather an an automatic weapon. And there are a lot of projectiles moving incredibly quickly with a lot of force behind them if someone fires an automatic weapon at a Jedi - so I'm not fully sure on that. Also, if you can get close, or just get enough weapons, I'd say it'd work. Also, claymores and, if you have the time and setup, something like a CIWS should do the job. Combine some of those with your other tips and there's a dead Jedi. (5:17) And if that works with blasters, imagine how much it could do with something with as much firing speed as a bullet.
The Force doesn't really obey the laws of physics. If a few padawans can pool their Force energy and push a super star destroyer out of a system in a matter of seconds, changing the trajectories of a few dozen pebbles moving at less than twice the speed of sound shouldn't be a problem. In fact, it seems like most of the limits to Force feats are psychological rather than physical, and deflecting bullets doesn't seem too hard for someone with telekinesis. Blaster bolts, on the other hand, are very difficult to manipulate with telekinesis, probably on account of their not being solid, meaning most Force-users have to either dodge them or catch them on their lightsabers.
@@samueldimmock694 Nope. Force sensitives, even not the really strong ones, could block blaster bolts just fine. From what i can gather with having watched so much of SW media, the state of a matter being manipulated doesn't change in terms of difficulty unless fine control is involved. In fact, blocking blaster bolts is actually easier since they're easier to see than slugs. The very reason why lightsabers are used, instead of the Force, for deflecting blaster bolts is because the former is actually easier, which is the same reason why jedis don't have a habit of hurling Force powers at their opponents when they're in the middle of intense fights. Using the force in quick, successive & explosive fashion is actually damn exhausting after all. With that said, the jedis have no problem blocking or even deflecting hails of bullets flying at them in ONE direction, regardless of how fast they're flying, so long as they see it coming. Bullets flying from multiple directions, their chances are as good as having to deal with rapid blaster bolt fire in multiple directions.
@@FalconWindblader I'm pretty sure you're wrong about ordinary Jedi being able to deflect blaster bolts without a lightsaber--which Star Wars media did you watch?--and untrained Force-sensitives or those trained by someone other than the Jedi or Sith certainly couldn't. Other than that, you're pretty much right.
@@samueldimmock694 Darth Vader himself has stopped blaster bolts firing at his face with Force powers alone, & heck, regardless of what you think of Kylo Ren, he went even further as to freeze blaster fire midair, which is even more difficult to do. Granted, Kylo Ren is at his prime & he's more powerful than your average jedi, but Darth Vader is, despite being noticeably powerful, is no longer that prodigy he used to be. Losing so much of his organic body has effectively reduced him to power levels probably slightly above your average jedi. The factors that makes him so powerful in combat mostly lie with his skills & experience, instead of raw power. If he could block blaster bolts without a lightsaber, there's no reason to believe why average jedi couldn't. By the way, there're many instances of jedi keeping fires or gasses at bay with only Force powers, be it in shows or games, with one of them being Kanan Jarrus, & that one he held at bay is equal in size & magnitude to that of 1000 blaster bolts. If someone who isn't even a fully trained knight could pull that off, there's all the more reason to believe average jedi could easily do with several blaster bolts from one direction, if they see them coming.
@@FalconWindblader Maybe it's different in Disney Star Wars (though I'm pretty sure it's not), but in Old Star Wars, which I know the most about, Darth Vader was still far more powerful than most Jedi or Sith, though not as powerful as the strongest of them. Also, that skill thing you talked about? Energy manipulation is an extremely difficult skill to master, but those who can use it are pretty much immune to blasters as long as they have time to react. Again, in Old Star Wars, most Jedi can't block a Mandalorian flamethrower with the Force. I guess that's different in Disney Star Wars, but the worldbuilding there is fairly inconsistent, so I see no reason why being able to stop flames necessarily means you can block blaster bolts--there could be something special about them. Also, Kanan may not have completed his training, but he was pretty far along, and self-taught for a long time after that, and was also fairly powerful (unless the Grand Inquisitor was either a weakling or an idiot who didn't know how to use the Force in combat).
I would hide thermal detonators in B-1 Battle Droids. The droids don’t have minds to read, and because of their “reputation” Jedi are not likely to suspect the feeble battle droid has a built in surprise.
Step 1: You be The Clone Wars 2003 Grievious.
Step 2: You don't be ROTS Grievous.
Just like that!
It works
The one who got his ribcage casually force crushed? Which for some reason no one else thought to try.
@@minicle426 mace windu is borderline sith using sith abilities
Step 3: You definitely don't be TCW Grievous.
“Glassing an entire planet to take out a Jedi was overkill, but it had a near perfect success rate” *OD’s on Fortunate Son*
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"near perfect" what force ability protects from nuclear fallout/radiation?
@@filthiman there was a force ability to travel across the stars, although it was very rare and dangerous. Unfortunately I have forgotten the name...
@@filthiman Plot armor
@@filthiman I don't think he was talking about a force ability, I think he was referencing Bastila and the amnesiac Revan, who managed to escape the planet of Taris while it was in the process of being "glassed."
Young Anakin: No one can kill a Jedi.
Darth Vader: Force damn it, I was such a dumba$s.
He was also a child, so...
@@Icspiders247 Live and learn, I guess...
Love how you made sure to type force damn it, instead of god damn it lol
@@titel9870 Gotta stay true to the lore, right? Doesn't take Dave Filoni to know that.
Yoda: Noone will kill younglings.
Young Vader: I'll do what must be done.
A Jedi's opinion of firearms: So uncivilized and useless
Anyone with a slug thrower that Jedi can't deflect: Really?
Jedi: *stops the slugs* "Yes, actually." *throws a storm of gunfire at the hunter*
@@demi-femme4821 Oops *dies*
Ah yes the essence of simplicity
Obi-wan after learning about a slug thrower: So civilized and deadly
@@demi-femme4821 according to the comics the force of bullets moving through the air is so strong that it’s incredibly exhausting to the point of said Jedi falling unconscious due to the strain if using force push, that they just avoid people who use slug throwers. That’s why Jedi hunters use slug throwers.
As skilled as Jedi are they can only block so many directions of fire. Which is why order 66 was so affective (that and the element of surprise)
Fully automatic weapons?
@@Gloria-victrix99857 absolutely, also try to get some Mandalorian Iron armor, or some other similarly strong armor, get some really attractive people to seduce said one Jedi or multiple Jedi, while the Jedi is distracted the attractive person can stab them with a knife. If they are women or aliens that both genders wear make up, create lipstick or lip gloss that has a drug that makes people fall asleep within seconds and stay asleep. And then kill them. I also use personal energy shields in case the Jedi fights off the affects of said make up and attacks you. All hail the Galactic Empire.
Ahsoka: shoto go brrrr
Yeah, I been saying that an mp5 would pretty much do the job
Plus the existential exhaustion.
Thats why Ahsoka escaped as she had already rebuilt herself on that scale.
I feel that scatterguns would do well against Jedi it covers a wide area so Jedi can't block it easily and they typically fight at close range so the closer they are the more dangerous it gets.
At range, scatterguns still wouldn't do shit, since they could just block the shots with the Force instead of their lightsabers (the reason why they used lightsabers to deflect blaster bolts is because doing so is less exhausting after all). Up close, however, scatterguns would be very devastating.
It could work but although you may get them they would at least be blocking a few bolts back at you. But yes, very possible
"I am the scout here"
It would all depend on a Jedi’s reflexes and precognition. A scattergun would be harder to block sure, but they’re not blocking kinetic shots/slugs anyway. They could easily use the force to stop buckshot as a slug. Probably the best bet is anything automatic with a high rate of fire, bonus points for an automatic scattergun/shotgun!
I would just force dash out of the way…completely dodging this
Play Kotor 2. Do a dark side walkthrough. When you have enough influence with HK, ask him how to kill a jedi? He'll tell enough points for you to write a book
Geetlys: Releases Jedi murder methods
Darth Malgus: write that down! Write that down!
Lol.
*General Grievous breathes heavily*
Darth Bane: WHERE'D I PUT MY DATAPAD?!
Pleeeeeease. Malgus probably wrote a book on it himself, dude had plenty of experience.
@@RaginCanadian-gx2zl Indeed he did in his time probably, but hey, you never say no to free knowledge
I'm glad to see nuking as an option . People are quick to overlook it as overkill or not practical. You know what else is not practical? Dying
Not great for trying to get the resources planet side if they're all glowing, though honestly a tactical device could be considered "asset management."
@@zachelkins1229 Yeah even a tac nuke that could only do a few blocks would do the trick assuming your targeting system is reliable enough. Otherwise you'd just use the smallest option available. The rest of the planet will be fine if a few city blocks produce a few weird radiation fueled force mutants. Hell the Sith might see that as an absolute win.
It’s more a 40k option than a Star Wars option xD
@@TheGosgosh my Warhammer 40k weapons to bring to bear against jedi and sith are as follows(in no particular order):
*the bolter *plasma rifle * gravity cannon *radium carbine *Psilencer
*multi-melta *multi-flamer * duel-wield macrostubber *Psycannon
*chem-thrower *ripper gun *exitus sniper rifle *vortex grenade
nuking a planet for a guy that can be killed with just a machine guy is stupid. use high rate of fire projectile wepons with either poisoned or any other special type of bullets , and there goes your jedi. a single bullet hitting is a death sentence.
Attack from 2 sides for higher effectivness
Grievous always loved to deadlock the Jedi with either two of his lightsabers and use his extended arms to impale targets...Too bad this method didn't worked with the fully plot armored Obi-Wan, but he tried to so the same moves during that duel.
I mean if course he had plot armor but he was also the reigning form 3 master of the era, I don’t really put it past him to deal with Greivous’ party trick
@@joshbowman9481 here we go😒
@@eddieram435 opinions are like assholes ;)
@@joshbowman9481 which I didn't politely asked for yours😉
@@eddieram435 awwww I’m sorry did you make a comment that someone then replied to? One of the most commonly used functions on RUclips? I’m so sorry for you mate
I am surprised none of the Jedi have spare blasters or extra lightsabers just in case they lose their primary lightsabers.
NJO Jedi sometimes did carry a blaster pistol as part of their kit
Yeah, having an extra Saber on your back/hip and a blaster on your leg seems like it would be a really good idea when you realize it's easy to carry around a spare weapon.
Imagine the amount of Jedi that have died since they were disarmed and easily could've lived had they just had a spare 😅
You have all that tradition bollocks about blasters being 'crude & uncivilized', & that their lightsabers having symbolic significance to blame for that.
Hell, even a small vibroknife and a couple ball bearings. Just imagine what a Jedi with good skill and power in telekinesis could do. No need to light up the Lightsaber, take them out from distance and in stealth.
Yeah, I am also surprised most didn't but I think some may have.
“Killing a Jedi with a blaster pistol is almost impossible”
General Grievous with Nahdar Vebb: Now this looks like a job for me!
Only in the lame canon
Slug rounds, flame throwers, or explosions
Obi-Wan deflected Durge's flamethrower
And force push
Keep it simple....mandalorians.
Edit: and Voxyn. Mandalorians with Voxyns.
A shotgun.
Don't forget Your Bare Hands.
Sonic Rounds, Sonic mines etc. Effect their hearing right, effect their ability to use the force.
Never hold Ill will toward them. When you attack, only aim to maim and kill their allies. They’ll have trouble pinning you down due to sudden losses of life as their Allie’s fall.
Flash pistols and rifles were also good. They are like a blaster but, the bolt isn't as dense and because of this the bolt breaks up when a lightsaber hits it. The downside is that they don't have the range of a blaster. So, you have to get closer than you would like generally. They were a precursor to true blasters. Flamethrowers, sonic weapons, explosives, and slugs throwers loaded with slugs that have toxic substances or acids in them, or similar weapons, also work well. My favorite is though is starship weapons.
Some Jedi can actually stop the last. Jacen Solo was known to be able to stop turbolaser fire.
Solid list. It's massive! 😂
@@geetslys Well, hire me as a writer. It's what I do.
Jedi also wouldn’t be able to stop an actual laser. The blasters of course shoot plasma. A laser could go through and travels at the speed of light with pinpoint accuracy, so no way a Jedi can stop it.
@@pieter-bashoogsteen2283 Also true. But besides a few select sniper rifles and other rare weapons true lasers were extremely rare in the Star Wars universe.
I feel like poisoned flechette/shot slug throwers would be an interesting alternative to the flame thrower with a bit more range. Gotta be careful with rockets and the like as they could be thrown back, but HE and fragmentation both do nasty things to fleshy bits. More to my observation though has there been any documented use of directed radiation weapons in either Canon or Legends?
Directed Radiation Weapons? Like, nuclear Radiation type of deal? Used as a gas I'm assuming, of pure, DNA breaking Radiation?
I do wonder about proximity fuses. Those might be helpful.
" No disintegrations"
@@thalmoragent9344 yeah ionizing radiation. You can get lethal doses from fairly easy to acquire/manufacture sources and using proper shielding and shuttering can effectively make it a beam. It's major part of why broken medical imaging equipment is such a hazard.
The defoliator super weapon tank in TCW obliterated organic matter while leaving droid parts intact. Not quite radiation but a unique weapon that would work quite well if not used against main characters with plot armor.
"...by broadcasting strong emotions like lust, guilt and fear"
Welp, those fighting Bastila could use all three at the same
Lol
I always thought that you could get around this issue using triple firing blasters. A jedi can angle their lightsaber in a way that can deflect 2 blaster bolts, but not three. Or alternatively if you have a group of soldiers with regular blasters, you can divide them into groups of 3 with a group leader, so that they will only fire simultaneously every time the leader shouts ''fire''. That's what i would do if i was trying to kill a jedi.
mind-linked droids, like federation B1s. but have lots of small central control computers for redundancy. the control computers can get all droids to fire at exactly the same time
Yep. Overwhelming force is a tried and true method to kill Jedi. You might lose some man power in the exchange, but this is certainly a way to go about it
Huh, I guess that's how they might've done it in Order 66. Or at least in some instances.
Kenobi: Use either the HIGH GROUND or sand. Always gets the job done
*General Grievous taking notes*
Later in the war... Palpatine did not order execute order 66 as only 69 jedi remain
Yoda lost because Sidious used the high ground technique.
@@Reoh0z literally
I can say without hesitation the minefield tactic works playing jedi outcast that trap works because you never see it coming until you have to restart the level and the only way to detect the mines is by chucking grenades in front of you.
Except that's game mechanics/limitations, because Jedi have precognition.
5:47 Love the lego TIE bomber product placement. 10/10 Made me do a double take
I prefer using a gravity generator to pin them to the ground and then deliver a coup de grâce with a disruptor pistol at a distance of at least two meters, well outside the reach of their lightsaber - just in case. This has the problem of only really working in a one-on-one situation, most grav generators aren't going to have a large enough field of effect to pin more than one target, so if there's more than one Jedi, it's best to retreat and find a way to split them up. Carrying a ysalamir is also a hard counter to the Jedi's use of the Force.
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@@gamejitzu I'm just a simple man trying to make my way in the universe.
The force itself is a counter to that...
I jedi can disrupt fairly easy a antigravity generator with their minds...
I think folks don't get it the whole telekinesis thing...
Jedi just don't blast things with force blast, force blast is essentially a telekinetic shockwave, also folks think is easy hide their thoughts, but it isn't, especially for common folks like us who never even worry about having other people in our heads, telepathy is one of jedi powers.
Let us see: telepathy, telekinesis precognition, enhanced speed and agility, some degree of super human strength, and resilience (yes, you can do that with telekinesis) in fact vast majority of jedi powers is connected with telekinesis ability.
A well trained jedi can basically tap quantum physics in their favor with telekinesis.
Once you control such ability to such degree, you can literally control the universe.
To understand better this ability, Star Wars isn't the best source at this explanation because it isn't fully grounded on our reality.
A better character to study this ability is Jean Grey / Phoenix from X-Men.
Her powers enhanced with the Phoenix force are beyond omega level in her case are cosmic scale.
Because she can literally tap on quantum physics with telekinesis.
@@efxnews4776 That's why you bring the ysalamir. It creates a 'bubble' (for lack of a better word) where the Force simply doesn't function. The gravity generator is just to keep them stationary and to keep that lightsaber out of the way while the death blow is inflicted. The ysalamir protects me from any retaliation while the Jedi is pinned.
This is a very intuitive analysis. Well planned with equipment to boot to counteract the strong possibility of the Jedi breaking free of the trap. I think my only criticism would be having a backup weapon on hand such as a flamethrower or even an environmental hazard in the case that the Jedi gives you more trouble. Now all you need is good timing and you have just bagged a Jedi kill. Nicely done
Geetsly’s: *posts a video on how to kill a Jedi*
The Republic: “hold it right here!”
Meanwhile the Senate: “lmao good shit”
Everyone: Don't use blasters to kill jedi
The entire clone army: Am I a joke to you?
Jedi: I can deflect one blaster bolt at a time
Space pirate: haha, slugshot go brrrrr
1:37 Use slugthrowers against Jedi.
It is Super Effective.
Thank you for bringing Atton and HK-47 for this
One very important thing that was forgotten is doubt it’s killed many sith and Jedi. For example Darth sion who wouldn’t die to any attack even from Darth nihilus
I'd say he just really wanted to die by the end. Holding your shattered body together using nothing but willpower and the force has got to be a fate worse than death regardless of if you consider becoming one with the force to be oblivion or not. I mean, heck, I'd prefer not existing at all compared to the pain he must have experienced every second of his existence.
I will say that Bullets being melted by light sabers and throwing molten slag into the jedi's face was cannon up until the clone wars came out (was in a comic detailing Jango Fett's origin story and the only reason it's not cannon is because they changed up the deathwatch in the clone wars).
And fun fact, the reason so many Mandalorians use twin blaster pistols to overwhelm a jedi's defenses. First and foremost, their lightsaber can't be in two places at once so two blasters helps a lot in getting past that. on top of this, the more shots you are throwing at a Jedi, the more they have to concentrate on blocking them and the less time they have to use the force on you (this is why Maul didn't instantly win the fight with VIzla).
Essentially the key is keeping them off balance, the more confused they are the less capable they are of using the force or blocking your attacks.
Or grab a shotgun. Doesn't really matter whether its blaster based, or slug based because either it's to many slugs to block with the force all at once (unless it's a master jedi, and even then, it's worth a shot), or it's way too many blaster bolts to block with a lightsaber. either way you are going to have one dead jedi.
keep in mind as well that Yoda said in Revenge of the Sith that size does not matter to the force, meaning that one can lift one small object as easily as one can left at large object. But even the best Jedi seem to struggle with Handling many objects. just look at how much concentration it takes to lift even single objects for a Master Jedi (Yoda, "Revenge of the Sith" and "Attack of the Clones").
The Jedi's precognition is great however when it comes to something moving as fast as bullets there is simply no time to gather the concentration needed to stop them. Move the guns yes. Stop a wave of darts, sure (as seen in the video). Place one's lightsaber in the way of said bullets before they fire, absolutely. But, especially at the ranges that Star Wars battles take place in, there simply isn't enough time to stop a bullet (Blaster bolts are ridiculously slow when compared to firearms, after all an onlooker can follow the entire trajectory of a blaster bolt at close range. not at long range like you see with modern tracers.
So basically modern firearms are devastating to Jedi?
@@pieter-bashoogsteen2283 Absolutley!
@@aesonkeel6527 I honestly agree with this assessment.
Use beautiful men and women to flirts with the target, remember they’re not trained to handle their emotions. Also they’ll probably have no experience with anyone flirting with them.
@@pieter-bashoogsteen2283 but modern firearms do not exist in the Star Wars universe. They’re more akin to bolt action and do not have the necessary stopping power to be effective weapons of war. They’re seen as primitive and crude, and rightly so. Energy shields, quality armor, even decently armored battle droids are more than a match for kinetic weapons in the Star Wars universe. Ridiculous to us, but that’s how it is in Star Wars. If slug-throwers do not have the piercing power to be a threat to battle droids I’m more than confident that a Jedi could moderately defend against them
If Star Wars Battlefront 2 taught me anything, it's that a blaster cannon (shotgun) is absurdly effective at one shotting Jedi
Based on the recent Fallen Order game, shooting explosives at a Jedi just makes them smile.
Bs slugthrowers where used in Canon comics when moff tarkin hunted Vader. Im not sure but it was the old Vader #18
*Standing over a Jedi’s corpse with slugthrower in hand*
“An elegant weapon for a more civilized time, eh? Well, guess what? Times have changed!"
BANG!!
Me and the boys standing over the Jedi corpse cleaning our shotguns, miniguns, grenade launchers, Vibro swords and spears, laughing
I like your videos Geetsly's and this one was very enjoyable. That being said, you did miss three additional ways in killing Jedi.
1. Use stun weapons. They don't get reflected back and can knockout the Jedi which will leave them open for a killing blow. The drawbacks are close range and there are force techniques that can dull the sense of touch which could work in resisting stun weapons.
2. Use sonic weapons. As the name suggests, these weapons send out a wave of sonic energy which cannot be stopped by a lightsaber. The only problem is that these types of weapons are very uncommon. Only the Geonosians know how to make these weapons to my knowledge.
3. The Ysalamiri. These creatures can push back the Force, creating a bubble where the Force cannot go. And if you can get in close, then the Jedi would be severed from the Force leaving them open for an attack. Not to mention having the Force stripped from them in a moment would be very disorienting for the Jedi. The only problem, finding these creatures and keeping them healthy.
These are a few more ways to improve your Jedi hunting career.
Stun weaponry is, by and large, far too slow, and the projectiles we have seen are quite large, making them rather easy to deflect compared to blasters.
Sonic weaponry, and other such unconventional things, are indeed a big one, although if the Jedi has any brains at all, they are likely to just start vigoursly dodging and jumping around to close the distance rather then try to block.
Yslamari are of course a hard counter to almost anybody, but then, Yslamari are also ridiculously difficult to even know about, nevermind acquire, for the VAST majority of galactic history. No one bar a small select few even knew Myrkr existed up until the NR era.
my Warhammer 40k weapons to bring to bear against jedi and sith are as follows(in no particular order):
*the bolter *plasma rifle * gravity cannon *radium carbine *Psilencer
*multi-melta *multi-flamer * duel-wield macrostubber *Psycannon
*chem-thrower *ripper gun *exitus sniper rifle *vortex grenade
@@michaelolmos8257 These are certainly an....interesting selection, if very extremely Imperium and human centric (to a degree that seems like a detriment, frankly). Some of these are good options, but the majority of your list, I.E, the flamer/chem thrower, ripper gun, Exitus, radium weapons, macrostubber, and perhaps the bolter are....debatable at best. Both flamers/chem throwers and radium weaponry could be dealt with via Force abuse fairly easily so far as I'm aware, although the latter would likely be a serious problem over time. Dual macrostubbers is an amusingly comical idea, but could just be dealt with via screwing with the weapon itself and/or vigorously dodging. Although frankly, with that level of recoil, unless the person shooting it is an Astartes (and why would they do that?) a Force user probably wouldn't even need to do anything. A far better option is a simple lascannon honestly, due to the infinitely faster projectile speed and probably a close to equal RPM.
Ripper guns are already extremely inaccurate by nature, and close range to boot. They almost certainly couldn't be blocked, no, but dodging is always an option. Ogryns in general are quite possibly the LAST possible thing you want to utilize against the infantry mulching precognitive magical space wizards, unless Ogryns got lightsaber proof skin when I wasn't looking, or much faster and intelligent for that matter. Exitus', like virtually ANY sniper weapon I care to think of, suffer the same inherent issue, which is that surprise alpha strikes are almost never the way to go with a Force user that isn't a drooling idiot. The precognition renders the idea moot by default. The psy cannon and psilencer may also be iffy depending on how they interact with Force users, due to how specialized they are for anti-daemon work, but honestly I have no earthly idea. It would depend on the aforementioned, the projectile speed, RPM, and so on. And bolters, like so many of the weapons listed, ultimately depend solely on how you interpret a saber interaction would go. I would wager they would be EXTREMELY effective indeed even if they don't detonate simply via the momentum transfer trying to rip the poor souls arms off, but that, again, depends on how much momentum would be imparted through the saber to the user. Even regardless of that, though, they are so fast and have such a high rate of fire that they are likely the best option by a league.
Although really, virtually all of these weapons are either exotic or rare in some capacity, OR are heavy weaponry, OR are outright anti armor. Or all of the above, even. Shooting a fucking multi melta at an average Jedi or Sith is disgusting overkill unless they immediately blitz out of the way at full speed or they leap like they never have before.
The usual disclaimers also apply as well to all of these; Force users, upon figuring out blocking isn't working, are under no obligation to keep doing so, meaning they can just abuse that vastly superhuman speed and agility for all its worth, and unless the enemy is similarly superhuman (albeit far more common in 40k than most settings), or the practices are either hideously fast and/or very exotic, there's not much the gunner can do to counter it. And of course, even if THAT doesn't work, just fucking with the weapon itself is always an easy option as well. Sith especially have no reason not to instantly abuse the Force the moment they get the chance.
@@michaelolmos8257 As a sidenote, since I totally forgot; vortex grenades, like most grenades, are an absolutely awful option for fighting Force users. You would be very lucky if they don't just pull the pin on you and laugh, or send it back at you mid air. Add in that they have a relatively small radius and that they are hyper rare, and its not even vaguely worth it.
Wasn’t there also something somewhere about the use of sonic weapons to throw off a Jedi’s focus/make it more difficult for them to concentrate on the Force? 🤔
Disorientation techniques.
Then you've got that one deaf Jedi laughing her ass off.
"If you run into a Jedi, ambush them" okay bro xD
So be unpredictable and don't think about the fight..... already my tactics if I have to be anywhere but behind the long gun. Hell last hard sparring session I was deciding what I was gonna make for dinner.
For blasters/slug throwers/projectile weapons…. Volume of fire and something that would direct/lure a Jedi to where YOU wanted to engage them… vibro (axe, blade, etc) weapons….
From what I've read, Mandos liked slugthrowers for fighting *Mandos,* for the effect of the impact on the foe wearing the beskar. In rare cases, a powerful slugthrower or poor quality plate might even allow the projectile to smash through.
What about Disrupter bolts? I remember in some Star Wars games that Jedi were unable to block Disrupters.
He completely skipped disruptors yeah.
The bolts do similar things to lightsabers as they do shields so disruptors are perfectly capable of taking jedi down, I used to build Atton Rand as a dual pistol wielder and then just pick up the customizable mandalorian pistols on Dxun.
The only problem is disruptors are quite inaccurate and have extremely short ranges. They’re definitely a good choice of weapon, but only if you can hamper your target well enough to get in and take a good shot
@@pewpewplasma3793 That's not necessarily true. If you've ever played Jedi Outcast or Jedi Academy, you'd know about the Disruptor Rifle, which serves as the sniper rifle in those games.
@@julianadeau5797 then I stand corrected
You could also kill/torture so many civilians that the jedi would not be able to focus on thair connection to the force.
It's a rather terrible strategy but seems to be working.
It's not a warcrime if noone finds out🤣🤣
Actually Darth Vader used that against jedi
They might just hunt you down and kill you though, and that seems overly elaborate.
Airburst explosives and/or thermobaric weapons would work well.
But I think the best strategy when attacking a jedi directly would be to reley on less-lethal weapons.
Don't do it yourself. Hire someone talented to incapacitate and capture the jedi. If the attacker has no intention to kill, the force would give a much weaker warning about the upcomming attack, if any at all.
Use things that are already available off-the-shelf today: Sound projectors, microwave-aerea denial systems, tear gas, lasers designed to cause temporary blindnes... all those things can be used to weaken the jedi before going in with stun guns.
Positive side effect: if you don't intend to kill, the jedi would be obliged to show mercy to you as well, if your attack goes south.
Once your hired gun has incapacitated the jedi for you, you can move in for the kill.
Uh, what? What, exactly, is your proof their precognition is so ineffective when against non lethal attacks, pray tell? Thats never been the case.
@@papapalps2415 No proof, just assumption and one piece of possible evidence hinting at it.
My assumption is based on the fact that the force is inseperately connected to life. Every death disturbs the force to an extent. So, leathal intent would cause a bigger stir than non-leathal intent.
I would also assume that the intent to kill is backed by stronger emotions than the intent to subdue.
The hint I am thinking of comes from the fate of the Jedi sieries, when Caedus' henchmen took the Jedi academy hostage and at one point used sleeping gas to subdue Jaina.
Despite her being strong in the force and well trained, she recieved no warning until the students contacted her through the force while the attack was already well underway.
I call it a possible evidence since the alternative explanation might be that she was just a very sound sleeper...
@@Bird_Dog00 Right. So nothing but supposition then, 'backed' by nothing but a singular instance of poor writing, from a novel series absolutely diseased with poor writing.
Like I implied, this simply...isn't true. For one, that would make well programmed droids incredibly hard counters to Jedi. They...uh, aren't. Frankly, I don't know why you are even bringing emotions or such into this to begin with. Precognition has zero relevance to a users emotional state fundamentally speaking. Its simply seeing the future a little bit in advance, not glorified empathy/telepathy.
@@papapalps2415 Maybe it's because bring tone across in writing is difficult, but to me, you sound rather... agressive about this. Why is that?
Besides that, I'd like to think that I'm alwalys open to be corrected if I'm wrong, provided the person doing is is reasonably polite about it.
So, since you point out that I lack evidence for my position, could you enlighten me and provide some examples supporting your position?
Further, to answer your question as to why I'm bringing emotion into this:
Well, I always go the impression that emotions - or the emotional state of a force user - is kind of a big deal with the force and its use.
Y'know, light side must controll emotion and find balance and serenity, dark side feeding on strong emotions...
So, I see a theme with emotions and the force.
@@Bird_Dog00 Because you initially tried to pretend your silly theory was a completely viable tactic, instead of being nothing but a pet theory based on nothing? If you had simply noted as much in the first place I wouldn't be so inclined to distrust you.
Regardless, I don't need to prove anything. Its up to you to show that a singular instance in a single novel series that may or may not even demonstrate your point is evidence, not mine. Like I said, if that were true, then droids, due to being more or less absent from the Force in a biological sense for obvious reasons would be very difficult to deal with for Jedi, as 'hostile intent' from a non sapient droid is rather fundamentally different then an organics. This...isn't even vaguely close to being the case, suffice to say.
I mean, Christ, you want examples of this? The very first establishing scene for the Force in the entire franchise, the training on the Falcom on ANH, is an obvious one. Unless you believe those training remotes had lethal intent, as well? Or perhaps Jar-Jar Binks did as well when he was trying to steal food, as Qui-Gon was explaining how his pre cog works?
Again, precognition is very much not tied to a Force users emotions fundamentally. Heavily influenced by, yes, but precognition is one of THE singular most basic aspects of being a Force user. Even totally untrained children like Anakin or such have it to some degree. Emotions will effect how good it is, yes, but precog won't just magically cease to function.
Statement: There are few Jedi that can long hold their ground against a hundred attackers all firing at once... or being turned on by their own troops.
5:33 _Near perfect_ I liked that sly nod to KOTR1.
Ah yes, jedi can deflect high velocity solid projectiles, imma throw a grenadr at them that oughtta work!
Who says anything about lobbing just one, or one at a time for that matter?
I kinda always figured that Jedi tended not to get killed because most folks didn't actually want to kill one in the first place.
A machine gun along the lines of the German MG-42 would probably do the job. Also imagine a semi-auto shotgun like a Saiga would be extremely difficult if not impossible for a Jedi to deflect as there would be several slugs incoming at once.
I mean you’re not wrong, but that’s not how kinetic weapon technology works in Star Wars. They’re more often than not akin to bolt action and largely ineffective at having the piercing or stopping power necessary to be preferred weapons of warfare. Any quality armor could protect a wearer from the shot, hell energy shields do even better. See Republic Commando. Bullets in Star Wars do not equal bullets in reality. It’s ludicrous to us, because it is, but they are primitive and crude weapons. A Jedi could moderately defend against a slug-thrower no doubt.
Too the point about Scatterguns, these were used. Mandalorians used these sometimes in a convenient wrist mounted form. Durge also used it, amongst others.
Steve tried to fight a Jedi Master with a blaster without Marksmanship training.
Long story short don't be Steve
General Grievous is my favorite character!
Knowing what will happen doesnt mean you can stop it from happening
So basically my most effective weapons against a jedi are my brothers. Scirch with explosives and sev with his sniper. But i dont know how we should distract them, we weren't trained for that. Maybe scorch could Tell them a few jokes?
Love this, sounds like a lil note
Well, for someone that played the jedi knight saga, rocket launchers and missiles were super easy to dodge and shoot back at the shooter, a simple force push and away they went.
Geetsly's Jedi vids are not only my favorite topic on this channel but, they're some of the best Star Wars content that you'll find anywhere.
Much appreciated 🙏
This is where the fun begins.
Have to say, I love the line 'very few jedi could hold out against entire armies for long'... just the first bit, very few, as in you could send an entire army, and it was still not a guaranteed success.
Laser based weaponry (not Tabanna gas based plasma), flamethrower, slugthtowers paired with rounds that won't melt in the millisecond where it is passing through the Saber. Pre-planted explosives. Kill the ship they are on. There are plenty of ways to take on a Jedi and win.
You kinda forget that the lightsaber blades act like they're solid in the first place, instead of mere streams of plasma. Slugs that won't melt under such intense hit would only be swatted down or sent flying elsewhere when they hit the blades, instead of passing through the blades.
Making the slugs explosive also helps.
This is a job for the Senate.
This was quite an interesting topic. It was very informative on how to kill a Jedi.
Ah finally a good addition to any bounty hunters tactics
and theres always the number one garunteed tactic (assuming you dont miss): sniping from within a
Ysalami bubble
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Chiss academy. Imperial academy too
Don't know whether this is covered under rockets but the little bescar "rockets" mando uses should also be quite effective. They are quite small, fast and deadly and on top of that seem to have some kind of intelligent navigation system.
I think in short you could say: mandalorian armor and equipment since they basically perfected the "art" of killing jedi during their wars. I mean Pre Vizla wasn't able to hold up to Maul that long just by chance... Cad Bane also copied mayor functions of said armor
Everyone forgets you can do a Thrawn and go grab some ysalamri lizards that block the use of the force and thus render a jedi's powers completely useless as they could even stop force lightning with the void like bubbles they produced. So if paired with competent hunters and weapons just get them in the bubble and then gun them down.
Can you make an analysis on how things would differ if one had to fight against Sith Knights?.
that moment when you find out anton in kotor 2 was a jedi killer is quite impressive. i had earlier been mind reading him, and your like he is playing cards in his head? ok thats odd. then you find out he regularly was just playing pazzak in his head, walked behind a jedi, then casually stabbed him. that was quite chilling.
"Blaster fire is useless against Jedi Knights".
*Me:* A guy who has seen multiple times how lightsaber heroes are blasted down to the death due to an intense frontal blaster barrage in BF II in command posts or even in random parts of the map, depleting even the stamina of Obi-Wans:
*Visible confusion*
Cad Bane: It's simple, we kill the Jedi.
I wish we were all Jedi knights would that be so much fun to be a Jedi Knight
Well, the tradeoff is that way too many people would immediately fall to the dark side.
Rather be a bounty hunter than Jedi or Sith since you owe no one allegiance and can get credits by doing bounty jobs
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I always thought it was clever showing Jango so effortlessly killing the Jedi that tried to jump Dooku in Ep 2, it showed that Jango knew how to kill a Jedi, and that's exactly what Sidious wanted in a clone army candidate.
Jango Fett when he saw his submission for a ‘Bare Hands’ addendum was rejected: 😠
Yes, I do find this topic very interesting XD
On a serious note tho, I agree. Things like mines, coordinated long-range attacks, or the old jetpack-flamethrower combo are always a better idea than "just shoot them".
I will use this tutorial, thank you. I’ve been looking for a youtube video on the subject for weeks. Thanks
On thing I have never seen against Jedi is Caltrops. It seems like dropping a bunch of micro foot mines would really work against them..
I wrote a story where Boba Fett, for complicated reasons, fought post-Rebels Ahsoka. He started with the flamethrower, used his jetpack to counteract the Force Push and fired a missile, rushed her with the flamethrower to make her flip over and attack his jetpack, then jettisoned the jetpack and used his whipcord to wrap up and electrocute Ahsoka. If it weren't for all the times Ahsoka had that happen to her, Boba would win. But, Ahsoka has been electrocuted enough that she could stand her ground and levitate a saber to cut the whipcord.
Even then, Fett had the advantage, and it was only because the jetpack happened to impact against an unstable structure that caused a collapse that Ahsoka won.
Edit: Ahsoka also had to keep a kid from getting killed, so Fett could engage her directly without too much worry.
Considering that Boba got rekt by both young Luke and Han Solo, and that post-Rebels Ahsoka could hold her own against Vader, I don't think Boba would stand a chance. Ahsoka could grip him with the force and rag doll him.
HK-47 was the True Master of Killing Jedi.
Poison gas is only good as a distraction for a Jedi as it causes them to divert their concentration. Flammable gas is also advisable to be ignited if capture is impossible. The capture of Darth Bane is a good template but that requires too many conditions to be met.
You actually did a pretty good job. Although you should definitely specify that you shouldn't try to use Revens methods on a sith. At least as they are. This was discussed in Darth Bane.
A counter "How to kill Sith" would be fun too xD
Thanks for the guide. I'll use this next time I'm facing a Jedi in Star Wars Battlefront 2 (2017)
A simple way to kill Jedi is to bring enough firepower into the equation.
the good old "if brute force isn't working, you're not applying enough of it" mantra
Can we cover killing sith?
What happened to using bullets? Blasters are slow af, just use a machine gun🤣 Sure they could force push them back, but most force users seem to need a few moments to get that ready.
Heavy, expensive, and inacurate compared to blasters. One blaster pack can shoot over ten times the bolts as a slugthrower magazine could. Plus, no need to mix or ratio gunpowder for each bullet.
What if you made a gattling type weapon that shot Slugs AND Blaster Bolts? Jedi would have the ultimate Oh Shit moment from not having enough breathing room to tell the slugs from the bolts.
@@cioplasmmajic8327 You don't need to be accurate when you can spit out 900 rounds a minute fuckhuge speed. I don't care how precognitive jedi are, you're not dodging or force stopping that much lead unless you're Yoda or Starkiller tier in the Force.
@@Anamnesis010 Then turn the gun so it's pointing in the other direction.
@@samueldimmock694 What are the chances of that, they've never done it against stormtroopers. Even if they pick up the gun, can they pull tbe trigger? I think most Jedi are like Psylocke, sure she can do big actions, crush a tank with her telekinesis like it''s nothing...but doesn't have enough focus to pick up a quarter.🤣
Simply blocking is not a jedis only means of not taking damage. They move really really fast. So dodging would be just as effective.
Not really sure about the explosives tactic. Ever play "Duke Nukem Forever"? Octabrains more-or-less have the force, and if you try throwing/shooting anything explosive at them, they throw it right back. No reason a Jedi couldn't do the same.
Which is something they do in some of the Jedi Knight games.
Orbital bombardment is a surefire way to kill any Jedi pass any fancy Force powers they might have.
Hunting Jedi... well time to head to Myrkr to get some Ysalamir and Vornskr from Talon Karrde.
Nice list. I think Loremaster has a similar type for weapons to off a jedi, also pointing out the slug blocking and even fire blocking; both requiring SKILL and FOCUS from the force user. So yeah, disrupt the focus by any means, like Grievious with FEAR and surprise, comboed with his intimidating visage, and survival chance rises.
Alternatively, Master speed and dual wielding a pair of mandalorian disintegrators that have been fully upgraded tends to work pretty well.
There was a bounty hunter in SWG that hunted Jedi by sending explosive-laden mouse droids to their feet.
Best way would be nerve agents, as much as the force can counter the effects of things, nerve agents scale up quite highly
4:46-4:51: Oh please. Like Cad Bane said any idiot can kill a Jedi with a sniper rifle. It takes real skill to fight a Jedi head on and kill them face to face, maybe even with your bare hands, like Cad and others could do.
Also, why is the info in the title More Dakka?
What does Dakka, the Nightsister who raised that army of the undead to fight against the Separatists when they invaded Dathomir, have to do with killing Jedi? Are zombies another weakness to the Jedi?
To be fair Bane was talking about clone wars era Jedi. They were substantially 'weaker' (as in not willing to kill) and not as battle hardened as Jedi from the old wars.
Depends on the zombie, but I could see "locked in" types being devastating to the empathic jedi. Likewise you tend to ignore threats you think you've already removed.
"dakkadakkadakkadakkadakka..."-machine gun circa 1944
Sith weakness: betrayal, treachery ,deadly infighting that is worse than a civil war, desire to kill their force kin putting a galaxy sized target on their backs for conquering and destroying and finally darkside degradation.
And their love of giant superweapons.
(2:21) The average slugthrower seen in Star Wars is more akin to a bolt action rifle, rather an an automatic weapon. And there are a lot of projectiles moving incredibly quickly with a lot of force behind them if someone fires an automatic weapon at a Jedi - so I'm not fully sure on that. Also, if you can get close, or just get enough weapons, I'd say it'd work. Also, claymores and, if you have the time and setup, something like a CIWS should do the job. Combine some of those with your other tips and there's a dead Jedi.
(5:17) And if that works with blasters, imagine how much it could do with something with as much firing speed as a bullet.
The Force doesn't really obey the laws of physics. If a few padawans can pool their Force energy and push a super star destroyer out of a system in a matter of seconds, changing the trajectories of a few dozen pebbles moving at less than twice the speed of sound shouldn't be a problem. In fact, it seems like most of the limits to Force feats are psychological rather than physical, and deflecting bullets doesn't seem too hard for someone with telekinesis. Blaster bolts, on the other hand, are very difficult to manipulate with telekinesis, probably on account of their not being solid, meaning most Force-users have to either dodge them or catch them on their lightsabers.
@@samueldimmock694 Nope. Force sensitives, even not the really strong ones, could block blaster bolts just fine. From what i can gather with having watched so much of SW media, the state of a matter being manipulated doesn't change in terms of difficulty unless fine control is involved. In fact, blocking blaster bolts is actually easier since they're easier to see than slugs. The very reason why lightsabers are used, instead of the Force, for deflecting blaster bolts is because the former is actually easier, which is the same reason why jedis don't have a habit of hurling Force powers at their opponents when they're in the middle of intense fights. Using the force in quick, successive & explosive fashion is actually damn exhausting after all.
With that said, the jedis have no problem blocking or even deflecting hails of bullets flying at them in ONE direction, regardless of how fast they're flying, so long as they see it coming. Bullets flying from multiple directions, their chances are as good as having to deal with rapid blaster bolt fire in multiple directions.
@@FalconWindblader I'm pretty sure you're wrong about ordinary Jedi being able to deflect blaster bolts without a lightsaber--which Star Wars media did you watch?--and untrained Force-sensitives or those trained by someone other than the Jedi or Sith certainly couldn't. Other than that, you're pretty much right.
@@samueldimmock694 Darth Vader himself has stopped blaster bolts firing at his face with Force powers alone, & heck, regardless of what you think of Kylo Ren, he went even further as to freeze blaster fire midair, which is even more difficult to do.
Granted, Kylo Ren is at his prime & he's more powerful than your average jedi, but Darth Vader is, despite being noticeably powerful, is no longer that prodigy he used to be. Losing so much of his organic body has effectively reduced him to power levels probably slightly above your average jedi. The factors that makes him so powerful in combat mostly lie with his skills & experience, instead of raw power. If he could block blaster bolts without a lightsaber, there's no reason to believe why average jedi couldn't.
By the way, there're many instances of jedi keeping fires or gasses at bay with only Force powers, be it in shows or games, with one of them being Kanan Jarrus, & that one he held at bay is equal in size & magnitude to that of 1000 blaster bolts. If someone who isn't even a fully trained knight could pull that off, there's all the more reason to believe average jedi could easily do with several blaster bolts from one direction, if they see them coming.
@@FalconWindblader Maybe it's different in Disney Star Wars (though I'm pretty sure it's not), but in Old Star Wars, which I know the most about, Darth Vader was still far more powerful than most Jedi or Sith, though not as powerful as the strongest of them. Also, that skill thing you talked about? Energy manipulation is an extremely difficult skill to master, but those who can use it are pretty much immune to blasters as long as they have time to react.
Again, in Old Star Wars, most Jedi can't block a Mandalorian flamethrower with the Force. I guess that's different in Disney Star Wars, but the worldbuilding there is fairly inconsistent, so I see no reason why being able to stop flames necessarily means you can block blaster bolts--there could be something special about them. Also, Kanan may not have completed his training, but he was pretty far along, and self-taught for a long time after that, and was also fairly powerful (unless the Grand Inquisitor was either a weakling or an idiot who didn't know how to use the Force in combat).
Bad Guys that face the Jedi: 0:57
Clones executing Order 66: *…And I took that personally*
Jedi:His moves are so unconventional, I can't get around them *reads opponent's mind*
Assassin: *meow mix theme song*
Geetsly: Most effective ways to kill Jedi
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#1 use an army they think is on their side
Jedi: Deflect Blaster bolts
Mandalorian: "Perry this you filthy wizard." Flamethrower
I would hide thermal detonators in B-1 Battle Droids. The droids don’t have minds to read, and because of their “reputation” Jedi are not likely to suspect the feeble battle droid has a built in surprise.