Cross Kart gets 110HP Honda 919 Swap??
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- Опубликовано: 14 фев 2021
- We begin swapping the tired old 1982 Honda CB750 engine out of our custom built cross kart, and replacing it with a 2003 Honda 919 engine. Engine removal was easy enough, and the new engine is smaller than the older engine (even though it's larger in displacement and makes more power!), however we run into one REALLY big problem!
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This time around, you should try using a skid plate to protect the motor. It's way cheaper than a new motor.
Definitely should build a new cross kart with the 919. Would love to see that ASAP.
All wheel drive.
@@jagerandres5808 😍
I'm sure whomever gave them the bike was hoping they would get to see the engine get it's own build... I want to see them stick it in that atc :)
I think it’s fun to see how much better it will go with the new engine. And why do you want a 4wd Crosscart?
I agree I would like to see this
919 + jack shaft = great times
I came here to say... jack shaft!!😂😂
I also was going to say jack shaft
Double your shafts, double your efficiency loss.
Great minds think alike jack shaft easy fix
First thing I thought too!
Glad to see my old commuter bike put to a good cause!
Crosskart 2.0 sounds great! Definitely need to improve the suspension assembly as well
reverse box would be nice if yall can find one rated for that kind of power
@@justinwallace2022 how often do we use full power going in reverse? I'd guess almost never
Hopefully theyll use the plasma table alot more for brackets and such
Time for slightly bigger tires too. Like 18 to 20''
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add a reverse box, problem solved. or something simple like a jack shaft.
My thoughts exactly!
i was going to say the same thing. from the guys who put a jack shaft in everything their first idea wasn't to put one in?
Exactly my thought as well.
To much power. More complex to maintain. Keep it simple.
The one inch tube is undersized for the 700cc anyways. Better to build a proper sized cart for Ike out of ideal sized strength tube for the bigger engine.
..who would like to see a come back of the rail drag car that was hanging on the ceiling in Isaac's shop lol just a question to see if many would like to see it come back .....and as far as the fram they can fix that for sure
Me
He bent the frame
With the 919?
@@brentheltsley7187 yes
@@christophershanz498 frame can be fixed
Charles:
-I'm stuck.
-It's crooked but it's in.
Give Charles more credit!!! Hes a great dude everytime he comes over stuff gets done!!!!!!
Yeah I got to meet him at busco beach. Pretty cool dude , definitely doesn't get enough credit
I love Charles! You should have him on more, he’s a great addition to the cars and cameras crew :)
Agree 100%
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We found charles alt account! Lol. Jk
Isn't he from grind hard plumbing?
He’s awesome. Bettern the lil guy
Charles needs to show up some more. Love watching you guys but it’s awesome to see him be happy with y’all and having fun. He seems like a really good guy, nice to see other people to😁
A 2-3” offset of the motor would not effect the balance to the extent of your thinking... that or doing a short chain to a shaft and then another chain running to the axle
build Ike his own cross kart, i really enjoyed the series when u built the first one...great work guys keep it up
Yea and Ike will be much better this time around since he learned from all the mistake's he made on the first one
That's what the trophy cart is kinda
well they couldve uses the 919 in the trophy kart since it was given to Ike but Master Chief John has to be one up on everyone and has to lay down the law. Ike is just a lil too nice sometimes and John should take time and make a few videos of finding his own stuff for projects.
THIS!
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Instead of an offset for the engine, run a jackshaft.
Plenty of room to do that.
I was thinking the same thing
I'm glad you guys figured out the trick!! On most longitudinal config bikes, laying the bike on its side is the best way to get the engine out or in. You can also ratchet strap a 2x4 between the crank case and cylinders and pick up on either side of the bike and pull it out the side.
New, bigger crosskart outfitted with one of those 2 stroke sled motors y'all were gifted last year!
Yea they got like a litle hoard of snowmobile engines from several of there fans. It is such a shame they have not done anything with any of all them 2 stroke engines they where gifted. And a new build with a snawmobile 2stroke engine and a cvt would make the best cross kart ever.
@@supertedogpriken I was hoping maybe they just had a bunch of planned videos, maybe that's why they haven't gotten to them yet, they are planned but in the future. Or maybe they are waiting for the right idea/build.
@@TexasBaker No i dont think they have any plans with them. I started askeing them about there snowmobile engines for over a year ago(maybe more) I was asking several times on every video they put out for like 20=30 videos in a row without any answer from them. and then i finaly got a answer from ike on one of his videos.He said they are hoping to get to it in the future, but no plans..... I think they are just sceard of 2 stroke engines. It is a new platform for them. Must suck to bee one of the many guys that gave them all them engines and was hoping to see there gift on there channel. for 3-4 years ago when they tested a regular gokart with a snowmobile engine when they was on a swap meet. And they both was realy, REALY impresed with the speed and power, and both of them sat in there car and promesed everyone they where gone do a snowmobile engine build. I think that it was after that when they got all them snowmobile engines.
Yes please
The engine and chassis will both be put to good use... with other projects!
Put a v twin on the bike frame, a predator 670 stage 4
If the engine is underpowered why not bore out and do other work like that to it
You need a exhaust fan in the shed for that
@@williamrathman2066 old age
Wher can I get a go kart frame from
I love the cross cart it's about to be even more sick please do a Revival of the 670 Honda Davidson my all-time favorite project!
Yeah
Yes please
Definitely
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
A fully built predator 670 Honda Davidson ?? That would be sick
I love the power you can hear in that bike
2.0 is a great idea, maybe an Isaac sized cart so you can have a John cart and an Isaac cart.
I looked into the fueling on the 919 when I changed the exhaust on my one, turns out they run pretty rich from the factory. The power commander possibly has too rich a map on it from the previous owner
hat If you did a jack shaft I think It will work with the 919!
What I would do
We thought about it and it wouldn’t fit
Lazy
@@CarsandCameras Wow It's so tight back there
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Cool looking forward to the new build. I love the menacing looks of 1.0 and the low center of gravity it has.
Loving this channel. Good synergy between you guys and cool builds. Wishing you guys much success from Sydney, Australia. Keep it up 👍
Looks like it's time to build another crosskart👍👍👍
Throw the Ducati engine in the cross cart.
We need new clutches and the ol ducarti will be ready for action
@@CarsandCameras or maybe build another cross kart to put the Ducati engine so u guys can both have a cross kart to drive
I can't believe that they gave up so easily what a fucking joke
They are probably still confused after the monstrosity that they call the bronco or the trainwreck that they call the trophy truck both junk in my opinion
James Kisor what have you hand built souly in your garage?
I like the concept of CrossKart v2.0. I'm not a vehicle designer, but I'd approach it like this:
Design the driver cockpit first to house each of you comfortably, and safely. Plan where all controls will be located.
Second, design the powerplant and driveline compartment to house, and handle the engine and components you'll be using.
Third, design the suspension to handle the specific duties the vehicle will be used for.
This sequence makes sense to me, and I will concede there's a thousand steps in planning and implementing, but I believe you'll save time, money, and frustration with a thorough plan at the beginning of a major project like that. Adjust as circumstances dictate.
Best wishes, and thanks for the entertaining vids guys!
super stoked to see all the new knowledge get applied to the next crosskart!
Its running rich because it has that power commander on it. The tune is probably super rich
And they were revving it cold.. 🙄
Didn't realize how close ya'll are to 1 million!!! I remember 10K haha its been an awesome ride watching your channel can't wait for the years to come.
I’ve been watching you guys for a long time and I am so happy for you guys y’all have come a very long way from back in the day
Crosscart 2.0 big enough for Ike to drive it comfortable! So when you get the old one back up and running. You both have your own Crosscart. 😁👍
It’s crazy to see how little of a frame the bike has also happy to see the cross kart being worked on 😁
Alot of motorcycles have very little actual frame as the engine it self is the central "frame" Per se.
The engine won't be a part of the cross cart frame.
@@PlatinumRatio "frame the bike has " he was talking about the motorcycle, the second part of his comment about the cross cart is a separate matter. I was commenting just about the motorcycle it self.
@@shawnkiller90 yeah I know that I’ve owned a hand full myself
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919 on drag rail and 2 stroke on crosscart
Yes
But the 670 sounds SO GOOD on the rail..
A 2 stroke triple would be perfect on there!
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Good To See Charles You Guys Need Him Full Time
Awesome. I finally get to watch this. I've been out of power and water for days here in Texas. Cold!! Y'all should predator the street bike frame!! There's a guy that did it with a Harley
I have an 81’ cb900 engine, even the factory carbs still hooked together!! Message me. I’m close to y’all in SC!
I had go kart dreams myself but life got in the way. Was hoping for 100hp on methanol could be achieved. Lol but we shall never know
Thumbs up this so they can see it guys.
They live in NC though.
@@Zark-Muckerberg yeah but I’m still not that far away from there area.
Imagine a jack shaft 🤯
Won’t fit, adds complexity and potential points for failure
@@CarsandCameras that whole thing is a potential point of failure right now😂😂
@@93RNR Let's see your custom made from scratch 750cc cross cart.... 🤣🤣
@@CarsandCameras you say that but you put 50 chains on that bronco thing
@@uncrustable9923 try old ass Toyota on f350 axles bud😂
How cool was 1:26 in the video when the opened the door. It was like the heavens was shining on the cart
Absolutely! To the 2.0 your builds are amazing.
Yes, build Ike his own Crosskart! He deserves it!
Y'all really need to race Chris from rather b welding
I won’t in on that. I just got my Hybrid Kart working.
Chris from Rather B Welding, he's a Awesome builder (truly great at building) but not so good at driving. Ike would certainly win hands down. Now, put Ike or Ethan from Grind Hard behind the wheel of the 18 speed double arm suspension cart and that would be a freakin awesome show!
The thing is chris is scared of driving the crazy machines he builds
@@Wik3dNuTS4k I agree with you 100%
@@feeterican they need chris to help them with this lol
Enjoyed it. Big thanks to Charles. Can't wait for 2.0 peace guys stay warm. Catch you on the flip side
Love your channel guys it’s the first thing I look for when I get on RUclips thanks for the videos keep it up!!!!
Cross kart 2.0 sounds awesome, but you’re really telling me that you can’t do a jack shaft to make it work??? No matter what you do, I know it’ll be awesome, but make it quick! I miss the cross kart too much!
I was thinking the same thing, short jackshaft behind the motor to jog that driveline over...
Maybe there’s things we can’t see that prevents that. Ike is a pretty sharp guy, if that could be done he’d probably be all over it. 👍🙂
Haha third, was thinking 'Why not throw on a jack shaft?'.. or re-modify the rear end.. "Is it worth it?", heck Yes!..lol
I wanna see them Make that engine fit..
Even if it means using zip-ties and stretch condoms for adrive belt, I wanna see them do it lol.
Re-modifing a rear end for that engine.. push, its what they Do! lol
Maybe you could have scooched the engine forwards enough so that you could have put a jackshaft between the engine and the rear axle and had 2 chains. You might have to move the seat forwards but if you're redoing the front end anyways then you might as well lengthen it.
Why do you want it longer? I don’t get it..
@@josteincarlsen2905 it would just be a side effect of moving the seat forwards but it might help ike fit in it better.
Hell yeah fellas!! FINALLY!¡! Its about time!! I have been waiting to see yall do a build like this! Thank you tons. Just be careful driving that beast..😎🤙..
Always enjoy when Charles shows up to help out
4:04 As a great man once said (then repeated over and over to supress the pain): "Pain is temporary, glory is forever"
The 670 would be so mean in the cross cart!! And hey reverse just tops it off!! Great vids!!
Premier adult decision making guys . I think a cross cart make would be safer , and with a real 100 HP , more controllable . Love the show .Rock on brothers .
Been watching you guys for the past 2 years. It's cool to see you guys building bigger badder toys. Also seeing the progress and knowledge jon is gained.
That music when your were taking the 919 out of the cross kart, almost made me cry 😢
rebuild the dragster with the 919 engine...
Hey John and Ike, I actually have a 1980 Honda CB 900c and I’m also located in eastern North Carolina. It’s almost complete. (Missing the rusted out tank and couple body pieces that would matter to a project like yours.) It’s not in the best condition as it’s been sitting for years. If you’d be interested just let me know I can send pictures or whatnot. We may not be able to work it out but I definitely felt like it was worth reaching out. Also anyone that wants to like this comment to help them see feel free. Also as someone else mentioned it is shaft drive so you would need to keep that in mind but it is also split high low transmission.
I enjoyed the humble pie episode. Fails happen, go forward from a fail. Important lesson.
To counter the richness you put a turbo on it simple :)
that accually didnt accure to me. you just opened up a whole bunch of possabillities in my little world!!!!!! and you sir just may be a genius!!!
Rebuild the rear end and front, there's so many different things y'all could do with it and it would be worth the time
You will love the cart with a 2 stroke. Light, simple, tons of power
Its actually nice to see sometimes, things just do work as planned. Keep up the fun vids.
OMG, that 2 stroke would be mental, please do it!🤩
You should k24 swap the cross cart. That would be awesome
This Honda engine should be good enough
Aw it doesn’t work
@@wouldyouglowme4235 i know.
Now that’s something I can get behind! Or a RB26
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@@holdenbostocky1998 that would be awesome but it wouldn’t fit. It would have to be a new project. K24/RB26/jz go kart?
Dude, that sucks about the 919. I know you guys were really looking forward to ripping it up with the new engine. Cross cart 2.0 sounds great!!! Can't wait to seebthe new build. Cheers guys.
No brakes, no steering, no suspension. Let’s throw a bigger engine at it. You guys rock.
This might be a little too optimistic, especially since I can't see the CrossKart in person, but...what about a jackshaft??? I know it would add some complexity, but with the fully independent rear suspension, it should be pretty straightforward.
Take what you learned from the first one and you can make a banger on the 2nd one. 2.0 baby
Holy cow I didnt realize how big the channel has grown.... almost to a million subscribers I still remember joining when yall were looking at like the 10k subscription goal
My apologies that was supposed to say a jack shaft could be used to align the chain with the rear sprocket and the engine would be centered. With cars and cameras it has not always been about what was easier. I have been more impressed when you take something and keep at it and make it work. Thanks again for all the content I will continue watching
1:08 owen Wilson's face looks like the engine sounds. MEAAN
Better off doing a new frame that old one is super jankie, maybe with removable sections so it's easier to fix or work on...
Ok I feel like super janky is a little harsh I have feelings for the cross kart you know
Super jankie?...... no... no it’s not
When we gonna get more trophy truck videos?
@@CarsandCameras I don't think it's harsh, also how many times has it been crashed? If I remember right 3 or 4
Crashes add jank in my opinion
@@CarsandCameras Sorry but with all the patches and all...
Definitely would like to see a new and upgraded version 2.0 Cross Cart. Your fabrication skills have leveled up since you built the first one. Great job guys!
1:dismount sprocket and Cut off the rear axel sprocket excess. 2: drill holes in sprocket to match bolt hole pattern on Universal joint shaft mount to main axel. 3: using possibly longer bolts, bolt sprocket to UV shaft mount outside of frame and bearing pilar. MUCH LOVE FROM A GUY IN WAYNE CO. THAT MET YOU BOTH LONG AGO.
Liked the video before I even watched it because I know it’s going to be great
I wouldnt mind getting the rear shock off of that 919 for my Honda Hawk rebuild I am working on Edit: I could probably point them to about a half dozen or more CB900 and a couple dozen CB750s The motorcycle salvage yard I frequent for my project bikes is full of them.
They sell them on eBay.
As someone who has owned a CB900C, you guys probably want a CB900F. The C models were shaft-drive and had a pretty complicated system that transfers the power output to the right (opposite) side of the engine. Basically Honda only had 1 shaft drive assembly at the time, but still wanted to use their 900CC engine, so to make it work they had to get the engine power to the other side. You could MAYBE unbolt some stuff and somehow get the the sprocket on the left side of the engine, but you'd be going down a rabbit hole at that point
Charles is awesome. Glad he is back for a bit.
The day before this episode i sold my bike and i seriously thought for a split second i had just sold it to yall 😅 would’ve been cool
Yaaas instalike when Charles is on a episode.
Got this Old Man waiting for the next video. I know you two are not giving up. Love the video. 🏎️😎💝💝
this is a sweet build guys! go for making the motor fit, use a jackshaft if needed. ditch the big airbox for small carbs
didnt realize the 919 has a boxed frame like that. looks very crude compared to twin spar aluminum and tube frames you'd normally see on a bike
Finaly I was wating so hard!
🔥w a i t i n g i n t e n s i f i e s🔥
Hmmm interesting question
TMI.
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A touch lower gearing on the axle side of the cross kart will help it rip.
2.0 cross kart is a Great way to go guys !!!! 919 is a super motor! I have a 2003 919 bike and I love it. Cheers guys love your video’s
cross cart 2.0! the original cross cart was very much a project where you figured it out along the way. you guys have a lot of experience that you can apply to the next project to make the build more streamlined and have a much better result.
Lame giving up too easily!
Make it fit!!
That old engine is so clapped out, I said that from the start.
Boy that thing is slicker than a peeled onion
The rich mixture could also be the fuel map program. You said it had a power commander, right?
I'm really sorry chap's its hard to make those hard decisions. Hope to see the next one soon. Happy building from a fellow cart builder in South Africa
Pretty useless video tbh... small spoiler, the whole video is about taking the engine out of the kart and taking the engine out of the bike....
Wanted to comment that too, its sad to see such video's, at least put the removing of both engines in the video where you swap them.
@@covid-ul2ee exactly 💯
So cool you guys are almost to 1M subscribers. I was here around 200k. Excited for crosskart 2.0. 🤘
If the bike has a dyno jet on it then definitely try simply plugging the stock computer in to remedy the smoke. It won't smoke as drastically if the temp sensor is bad. Either way its always good to just change the temp sensor in a older fuel injected bike that wasn't correctly winterized.
Crosskart 2.0? DUCK YEAH !!!
my cross kart is very similar in size weight and design as this one and after a few different engines it’s currently using a 2012 fz1 yamaha 998cc inline 4 in stock form makes 150hp but with a few simple mods it’s now putting out 182 hp. it’s based on the previous generation R1 engine with different cams and tweaks to increase low and midrange torque at the cost of a little peak power and it suits the kart perfectly
Big respect keep the grind going 💯
New crosskart would be really cool, looking forward to that my bois👍
First time commenting on a video after being a viewer of 3 years but I honestly wouldn’t mind seeing the 919 dropped into the dragster. It was I think one of the first really big build that got built from the ground up and would be kinda cool to see it brought back for sure. But I could also see a second cross kart for Ike being a thing so there is two of them.
919 Cross Cart confirmed, hats off to you guys, well done
Waiting for crosskart 2.0!!! Keep up the good stuff!
I would love to see a street legal traditionally styled cross kart! Need more of them in America!!
I think it's a great idea to make a crosskart 2.0 as you can improve based on what you've learned from the first build and make the new one even better. As a bonus you could then have 2 way crosskart races together at the same time