@@bjs301 the less I know the more I understand. The more its snows the more it rains. The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain bagels with cream cheese and smoked salmon.
Absolutely! It's incredible to see how psilocybin mushrooms and psychedelics have the potential to make a positive impact on mental health. They've shown promising results in treating depression and anxiety. It's exciting to think about the possibilities they hold for helping people.
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I thought everything he said was absolute horsesh!t if I'm going to be completely honest with everyone, same with Rogan. They're literally talking about nothing and if you think for a second that taking Psychedelics is going to enhance your consciousness or bring you closer to a "divine presence" then you need to do some serious soul-searching. I'm not saying you think this way but Rogan and a lot of his fans do and it baffles me. You don't need any drugs to enhance your consciousness and it sure as sh!t won't bring you closer to God, maybe Satan, but definitely not God. If anything, it separates you from our Lord even further and that's exactly what the Devil wants to do on this planet.
@@christservant2464 if you haven't figured it out yet, Joe and probably 99% of his viewers and guests are not religious. When they speak of spiritual experiences they don't mean divine. It is simply the best phrasing to try and explain it.
@@Voidova Rogan and most people are on this 'New Age' religious tip, my Brother. Everything to them is smoking DMT and realizing that "eVeRyThInG iS eNeRgY mAAAAAAN" or that we're living in a simulation..
It’s genuinely astounding that Joe “Don’t listen to me... I’m an idiot” Rogan can not only keep, but progress these conversations with such great minds
at this point he's had years of listening to people that are smarter than him. the mind if very flexible. even if he was average intelligence to start with, the years of tutoring he's received has made him smarter and given him a broader view on life/reality.
I once had an experience, can totally be put away for the fact that I did psychedelics, but it felt so real to me...to this day I cannot put into words how this affected me. To be concise, I took some acid and fell very deep into some otherworldly dimension and found my bf, who at the time was struggling with a heroin addiction. He had moved away to deal with it, and I live in Hawaii. He was across the sea in the continental us. I met him in this other world, and told me he needed help...like he straight told me he was dying. I was frying balls and my friends we're trying to calm me down...I snapped out of this and told everyone around me, that he was dying. I told them we needed to go to California and help him. They comforted me and told me everything was okay...I was just tripping. Fair enough. The next day, we found out he od'd and had passed away. I'll never forget my friend tripping out and telling me how crazy that was. I was an atheist then as well. No more. I don't adhere to established religions, but I do believe theres something greater we dont know about. This isn't some comment to change your mind, just something that did happen to me. I also still don't believe in ghosts. But I believe my friend came to me and asked for helped. Makes me wish I could've done more...
Sorry to hear about your bf, may he rest in peace. What a mindblowing thing to experience, it could be anything from your fears of him manifesting themselves to you actually accessing some higher plane of consciousness where you could still communicate w him. Psychedelics are some next level shit, I’ve experienced telepathy on shrooms but thats as wild as my experiences have gotten.
Thats is absolutely breathtakingly powerful, im so sorry for your loss. I can agree with you spirtual awakening though. I've been out of my mind in a manic episode because of a sociopath that abused me. The man she killed before me possessed me and we wrote an email telling her she is killing men. Ever since then I've been awakened to the spiritual nature of our world. I talk about it on my channel if you're interested. Consciousness is fascinating.
Somebody may try to explain it away as your intuition that came to you during a trip, in the form of your bf. No real vision or external communication. It's all just your subconscious thoughts. But then how do you account for the timing? They'd probably say, "well you do drugs a lot, he does drugs a lot. The timing was coincidence". The problem is that these observations aren't necessarily connected themselves and are individual refutes of a various components of a subjective experience. Therefore they don't form a concise, logical flow. If this explanation were the case, you'd have tried to stop him long before in an earlier trip, or had "vision trips" long after he passed, but before finding out his passing. I've personally had "otherworldly" experiences that make you question reality itself, without drugs or illicit substances. I can't say if what you experienced is real, but I understand how these profound experiences affect you more than anything else.
@@Ontime2day With a good vocabulary ? If that's all one gets one is royally ripped off. Or "Gypped" as one used to say. I believe that terminology has fallen out of favour with the common folk these days though so I shall obstain from using it once more. *Tips hat and briskly walks in the opposite direction your body mass was heading* After a few steps ' *mumbles* Gremuphh grahhh grrrr fuc k gah . stupid .... fugrghmph. FUCK.
"Your mind is like this water my friend. When agitated it becomes difficult to see. But if you allow it to settle, the answer becomes clear" -turtle from a kids movie
Definitely not in orlando FL just waiting for someone to DM me some DMT as a matter of fact DMT stands for Direct Message Transmission dont mind us fbi man
10:55 his trip was his mind trying to tell him he is sick of the monotony of creating theories in his head, destroying them and then reforming new ones and repeating.
This! I don't know of the monotony, but yeah, since Brian Greene is a theorist, that was the brain way to show his theories and ideas being destroyed while he creates new ones, because that's basically his life; in other words, it was point him in contact with himself. And psychedelics have nothing to do with consciousness, they have to do with dreams, dreaming while awake. And if nightmares are a way to reveal emotional disturbances, now imagine that while being awake, that's what is called a bad trip.
i was looking for this comment. I cannot disagree with him in any of what he is saying. He is right: Psychedelic substances are nothing but chemicals that alter our brains. However, i cannot help but think that he is restrained. He is unable to realize that though chemicals may cause it, it is much more profound than that. He even had it in front of him and didn’t realize it. His trip was literally about it.
Exactly what came to mind when he explained this. Perhaps he’ll still realize at some point; I doubt he’ll be forgetting the experience anytime soon. I still get realizations about trips that I had years ago.
Poor guy has an experience in a terrible setting with no understanding of the sacredness, for lack of a better word, involved with those experiences. Now he’s probably turned off them for life. If we as a society can get more of our greatest thinkers to experience more spiritually enlightening hallucinogenic experiences, then we could probably figure out a bunch more about where our understanding of physics is not all the way there.
@@OmniscientSlothExactly. When I think about how in older cultures they ingrained these chemicals into loving and accepting practices and rituals, it makes me believe they were much more advanced as a society than us. I imagine had he taken it in a better set and setting, and knew exactly what he was doing (chemical wise), he couldve gone in with a better mindset and come out with one as well. His story sounded like it was something he did impromptu and in a new setting (At a hotel??). Sad that he had a rough enough experience to not investigate further.
This guys is wrong on so many issues...I really didn't like it.He is no scientist just a savy writer.Would love for Joe to get actual scientists on the show not pple trying to promote their fucking book
wow 420blazeitm8 it’s simple, dopamine. But I smoke weed because I like the way I think and feel when I do. I also use it to recover from working out I’m never sore ;)
You know what's insane, Brian Greene has a PBS special about quantum mechanics, and there's this scene where Brian is in a "quantum bar" and converses with other versions of himself.
Adam W. just know that all “logic” depends on what we think we know already. if what we think we know ever collapses or changes (which it has many times in the past), “logic” will also change or collapse.
based inner child, it makes sense that our logic would change. As we learn more about the universe, our labels change with it. Logic should reflect our experience with the world.
@@adamx9793 *Logic should reflect our experience with the world.* sure thing. the conflict arises when some people are having experiences with the world that are very different from other peoples' lol. for example, a monk who's meditated for 10,000 hours and broken through the illusion of a personal self, is having a profoundly different experience of the world than the average joe - even the average "brilliant scientist" joe. but it's not so easy to put that kind of experience into numbers and data points like the modern scientific method is limited to. there are biases that can exist fundamentally as a result of the lens we are using to explore the question - in this case a lens that is conditioned to define reality by numbers, calculations, and measurable objects.
Yep that's how the mind works Instead of rambling if they just sat there and meditated they'd get a direct answer Better yet be in a natural environment and meditate Until your consciousness levels rise. You'll notice you go beyond the mind. The mind will be "below" you in a sense or way looking at it Consciousness cannot be explained through limited words and language Its all just limited pointers to the actual thing Thats why God cannot be "put in a box" and labeled and understood by the mind Its way more vast and beyond the mind Reality can't be contained in a mind. All of our minds are happening in consciousness
@@nopenoway9875 some are identical do the research yourself just find 2 people from different parts of the world review a dmt trip on RUclips and they'll be fairly similar but most of them talk of wizards and doorways to other places but then theres stuff like lsd that's not so much different realm stuff it can send you on mad trips but its more colours and just distorting your perception, but people who take the same physcadelic normally describe seeing the same things
@Alpha Centauri "...to embrace other dimensions through drugs." I don't know, that's honestly tough to say. It is the human mind that developed the ability to work it out theoretically. If it could do that why couldn't the mind "embrace" it another way? Also I'm calling Greene a liar about the whole "shrooms in Amsterdam" story. Plus Joe could fuck somebody up.
I love that Joe gets to interview these highly scholar people to ask the questions that we all have. Not that they know everything but at least to have a perspective that isn't just our own thoughts or experiences.
@@deanurschel9161 please show me peer reviewed scientific evidence that phenomenon occur that break our laws of physics? And I'm not talking a lack of our understanding such as what happens in a black hole.
"The moon is a base projecting a simulation into our minds, run by the reptilians" -David Icke. The guy could compasses point north and i would have to check.
Welcome to the collective subconcious of particle physics. I like this dudes train of thought and stance on no position. This is the type of mentality required to gather a collection of usefull knowledge. This why practicing arguing both sides of a subject is important. The bigger the perspective the better the understanding.
When I did mushrooms i felt more connected to everything and when I looked at tv/phone screens it looked very pixely. I will definitely being doing shrooms when I go back to Amsterdam.
They are not legal anymore,if you know some locals who are on it,you can buy them,but let me tell you this,illegal selling and buying of mushrooms or any other psychedelic substance can put you in serious problems,i talking about prison even for a little bag with five or six mushrooms.
Yea you can just buy the truffles its the same exact thing. Also why would you want to wait till you go to another country? Idk where you live but if you're in America you can get them everywhere.
Whenever I'm on shrooms I always forget that the internet exists. I'm on my phone constantly throughout the day but as soon as those shrooms kick in, I have no interest
@@yubsodumb If you don't really know anyone that does or sells psychedelics, you should go to any music festivals that you can. And not just any music festival. I doubt there's many people at rap festivals doing psychadelics. There's a band called phish that are always at crazy festivals and 90% of the people who go are looking to get high. They usually have everything from nitrous to ketamine there it truly is wonderful. The funny thing is you never hear about people ever getting hurt or causing trouble cuz of psychadelics there but people talk about them like they're the devil! People also exaggerate big time on what its like to take certain substances. Ive hewrd people say they ate a couple hits of acid and an hour later they said they saw crazy animals and plants coming to life. Tripping is nothing like that. If youre a beginner always remember to be in a good safe environment and have a friend whos sober trip sit you. That's the best way till you know you handle any drugs. Hope that will help you in the future.
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
Psychedelics are the reason why i didn’t take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I’m doing better everyday and will never think in such a self destructive way again.
LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life. I became a better version of myself This experience gave me a lot of confidence about my self and my body. A bunch of bad thought / behavior patterns were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands a lot. It gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip: Everything is alright. The main reason for the trip was my severe depression and it definitely helped me (although it's not gone). Before all I could do was lay in bed. Now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before."
Last year, I took shrooms at Las Vegas thinking it was going to hit like an edible or something. Shit was scary at first but amazing once you start getting deeper into your thoughts
It’s so funny that joe asks Brian if he had any psychedelic experiences and he says yes, joes face lights up, then Brian proceeds to talk about hitting a joint for the first time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is a weird experience we are having. Like we look the way we look. And we think and wonder. And do all we can to explain it but its really a very very powerful dream.
Damn I had the same experience he described. It’s so scary. It feels like complete awareness of a psychotic break and awareness of multiple personality disorder
Hopefully in the near future psychedelic usage will be a common tool for great thinkers and scientists to help them see and figure out the challenges of their times.
I agree with basically everything this guest is saying. He’s not making any unexplained leaps of faith he is just interpreting the evidence with as little assumption as possible.
This man is talking about how the big bang has created consciousness but Joe is talking about the thing that created the big bang to create consciousness 😂😂
exactly!!! the guy isn’t thinking deeply enough! WHY does “physics” even exist in the first place?!? WHAT is a “particle” and WHY does it exist at all? WHERE did it come from? physics is only looking at how things are now. it doesn’t tell us how everything, including the laws of physics themselves, even got here. even the “chemical makeup of the brain” can not be taken for granted like he’s doing.
@Bullet holes for maga hats *"We are not it's voice, we are it's accident."* are stars an accident too? how about solar systems, galaxies and nebulas? who are *you* , a mere human, to decide what of our universe is "an accident", as if you know what is "supposed to be here"??? 🤔 do you think your judgments are god?
@Bullet holes for maga hats *one can deduce from the randomness* "randomness" is a human concept in the first place. the universe does whatever it does, full stop. human minds come in AFTER the fact trying to calculate the possibility of x happening, based on other human observations which are also limited. randomness is simply a convenient word scientists use for "things i don't know the reason for". given that the things we don't know the reason for are so much more vast than the things we do, you have no authority to assume what's "an accident" or not in a universe that existed long before you were even conceived. by the way i'm not religious nor did i ever claim to be. see how quickly your mind makes judgments off of limited information and assumes them to be fact? if you can so easily be wrong about another human being, what makes you so cocksure about your opinions regarding the universe and what is "supposed to" exist within it? not much better than a religious fanatic.
I feel like, asking how all the individual biological component in our body could produce conciusness is like asking how could 0 and 1 do complex calculation and display this video on my phones. At some point i feel like if you add enaugh simplicity you get complexity. But that's just how i feel.
It seems Greene’s understanding of consciousness is a bit premature. To think that his “consciousness” was temporarily modified as a result of the drugs and so it must just be a chemical reaction that’s constantly occurring does seem very fitting for the times... however wouldn’t the “awareness” of what is going on within all of these different states truly be consciousness happening through him? It’s hard to get to the source, but the awareness of all of it in every moment is consciousness, and that was consistent rather he be sober or hallucinating, etc.
The question is - what is going on? If you don't know the answer to that question, you can't be aware of it. But can you just claim to know what's going on, and have confidence enough to believe that claim is the truth without evidence? Does anyone know? Maybe consciousness doesn't even exist. It seems to be some philosophical term at this point, or an "add your preferred definition here" type of thing.
@@PlumbDrumb I think both are true. On the material plane it's just electrical signals being altered by drugs, yet on the non material plane it's the one eternal mind remembering it is all a dream.
When Brian Greene talks about particles imbued with consciousness, he's speaking directly to the hypothesis put forth by Donald Hoffman in his book "The Case Against Reality". I highly recommend it! Not saying I agree with his hypothesis, but it's a thought-provoking read, and if you enjoyed the topic Rogan and Greene talked about here, you might enjoy this book.
There are two major flaws in our consciousness. We have an innate duality within our psyche that is built by the conscious and subconscious aspects of our mind. The conscious aspect can be so extremely intelligent despite all things; performing complex equations and observations. However, when forming large-scale understandings of complex concepts our conscious mind is fed information by the subconscious mind. (This is where the first flaw lies). The subconscious mind will go to just about any lengths to align new information with old information. It will twist and ignore information if it doesn't align with the current status quo of belief and understanding (This is how people maintain absurd world-views despite all disproving evidence). Furthermore, the same instinctual mechanisms that allowed us to survive as a more primitive species are still fully functional in the subconscious mind. It drives us to fear things we don't understand, seek a sense of purpose within our community, procreate, and consume - all things that helped our ancestors survive. We live in a modern world built by the intelligent conscious minds of the smarted and most driven members of our species but the instinct-driven, information-twisting subconscious is at odds with this world. None of its mechanisms are serving their initial function in this new world. And because of this, we constantly feel the dissonance between our intelligent conscious minds and our primitive subconscious minds. Suicide rates are higher than ever and the whole world is heating up due to our negligence. The only way out of this situation is for our brains, and our minds, to evolve away from these primitive mechanisms. But evolution is slower than human development and can't catch up. There probably isn't a happy ending in sight for the human species and Earth as we know it today.
@@thomasstorey4480 I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said, but with development of the conscious mind there is also a decline in the feelings like happines or even sadness we are able to feel because all of them are felt through the subconscious mind. We are literally turning into machines which is terrifying. That's also why there has never been such a large scale of people with mental health problems. (The fight between the subconscious and conscious mind)
Thomas Storey you’re right in some areas but overall wrong. there IS a way for us to “break free” from what you call the primitive subconscious mind. it’s called waking up, awakening, enlightenment, there are many words for it, and some misconceptions about it. but its REAL. and it’s what happens when a human being discovers a state of awareness that ISN’T ruled by the impulses of their animal brain or their conditioned thought patterns. when someone takes psychedelics (and doesn’t have a “bad trip”) they’re able to experience this open awareness where they feel utterly expansive and no longer bound to whatever their problems, worries, or biases were previously, in addition to whatever more subtle layers of conditioning were controlling their perceptions. hatred and judgment and insensitivity dissolve, and bliss and connection become pervasive in one’s experience. look up “loch kelly” on youtube, he guides people to it through a series of awareness exercises. of course eckhart tolle and many other teachers (many who teach traditional meditation) talk about it too and try to help people access it and live from within that state of being. but its REAL and it turns pretty much all your predictions and analyses on their head. it’s the trump card that changes everything.
Another very clever man that hasnt smoked dmt! Imagine how much he could understand? Brian Cox and this guy really cant talk without experiencing. Such a waste of their valuable time!
When I was in a mist of a mental brake down , I had 5 voices in my head shaming me , ridiculing me, bring up things that broke me , and as this is happening I'm pacing back and forth physically feeling as if I'm getting hit with emotional trauma left and right that honestly felt as if I was really going into a emotional battle , and by the grace of God when you don't think he's working, as I'm in total destruction mode there was a voice that over topped all of the other voices and it commanded my attention, to focus on it . I didn't make me dissect everyone of those fears and anxiety that raged among those five voices and when I really challenged those voices are realized that I was running from the perceptions that I put in my head rather than the reality of the situation and when I put everything in perspective consciously I was able to gather myself up, and take back my power that I allowed to be consumed through emotional baggage that I fear to release so it just kept building and building until everything was hitting me at once, and I can say that that was the worst feeling that I ever physically felt without anybody actually fighting me.
When talking about the mind joe has mostly atheists on . there are well known physicists that believe in cosciousness as a basic reality in the universe.
@@misterTayO Russell Targ, Sir Roger Penrose, Hal Puthoff. You should read Targ's book on remote viewing. It completely changed the way I view life and consciousness. I think Greene should read that book too
@@misterTayO Listen to some Alan Watts. He is famous for interupting and popularizing Eastren philosophy for a westren audience. I recomend the "Nature of God" lecture, but there is a immense amount of content to choose from. Though he isnt a physicist i think it will be more along the lines of what your searching for.
I see why he objects to the second theory because that is like saying a block of silver has the potential to have Consciousness if we rearranged or added electrons , protons , ect. Just an example .
how do you know it doesn’t already have consciousness? fyi consciousness isn’t the same as thoughts and emotions. those things can arise WITHIN consciousness. but they aren’t consciousness itself. something can be conscious and not have any thoughts. so people like me and aaron aren’t suggesting that rocks might be thinking and feeling human emotions.
Still one of my favorite JRE clips ever. This is why I started paying attention to his show. I wish he'd go back to guests and conversations like this with interesting and super-educated people.
the answer is in front of everyone's eyes already, and it's been there since forever, truth is radical and unexpected, you will never reach truth by holding on to beliefs
@@brotothewilliams9890 I was about to say something relative to what you did. Going into the Void/Afterlife is the merging of the spirit into the great big beyond. Once you die, your human consciousness fails to exist. So how can you have peace if you can't fully embrace the human experience of consciousness anymore?
@@jjmiles7173 There's no conciousness after death so we feel literally nothing. Nothing isn't even a feeling or thing to experience because once you've experienced nothing then you've experienced something. It's as hard to wrap brain around as infinity it seems
Interesting stuff. My thoughts just were the same in consciousness until I stumbled onto this swiss cardiologist who did this study on "dead" people. Perople who died and their brain eeg went flat but came back to life. A lot of them experienced the so called near death experience and talked about beeing at some bright place, understanding everything, beeing without time and seeing their whole life in an instant, communicating to some beeings... Theory says there shouldn´t be anything to "see" when your brain ist quasi dead. The doctors theory is, that your brain is just a receiver for consciousness and tunes into it. It is all over the place and universe. Would´t that be fantastic? Means, that even not believing in god would not be the end. And if one thinks about all the unlikeliness of atoms building structures and systems and a brain that thinks about its "substructures" itself is kind of crazy. When atoms forming a brain means consciousnesses it also implicates that if atoms come together in a certain complexity there should be consciousnesses all over the universe.
Sounds like it would be fantastic but without any testing of this idea it remains completely unfounded and in the realm of wishful thinking imposed on things we don't understand. There is a desperation in humans to make magic anything that isn't easily understood. I think this cardiologists lack of understanding isn't proof of understanding.
@@rraptor158 Sorry, the guy is from the netherlands and not switzerland. They published his paper in The Lancet. Near death experience in survivors of cardiac arrest... If you listen to some of his interviews you realize that he is a sane man and that there is this phenomenon.
Sam Parnia's findings are also very interesting. So there is scientific evidence that a stopped heart produces higher states of consciousness. The sceptics say this rather than the other people. The debate now is whether a stopped heart means you are dead. But the higher awareness when the heart is stopped is not even debated now. Odd but there.
Sounds like a high plateau DXM experience. I think its quite possible the typical white light experience is just a result of your sensory input being cut off and your brain "filling in" the missing information with essentially peaceful white noise.
@Natasha Tomlinson I have no idea what this guy did or didn't consider previous to forming his own theory. Your aggression to an idea different than your own on this topic is flat out weird.
As long as there is disbelief about the exclusive role consciousness play about everything, from the atom to the universe nothing will make sense in further understanding of the quantum reality.
Psychedelics may alter experience, but it doesn't alter the consciousness. The awareness of which experience is seen from. I think many people often forget that consciousness remains constant through out all our lives, regardless if we have memory loss, trauma, intoxicated states. Those render our ability of experience to change, but he consciousness behind those experiences remain untouched....maybe
The problem with Greene's view comes with looking at the lack of consciousness. There are states where a brain is functioning perfectly but the person is vegetative - no person there. When you sleep, then awake, you have a sense of time passage and continuety. When you go under sedation, then come out, you have a loss of time. While you were under, your brain functioned, and all the particles were there, yet you weren't. Consciousness does have indications that it's seperate from the body.
I understand your POV but to say that a person in a vegetative state could have a perfectly functioning brain is not correct. “A vegetative state occurs when the cerebrum (the largest part of the brain) is severely damaged (making mental function impossible), but the reticular activating system is still functional (making wakefulness possible). The reticular activating system controls whether a person is awake (wakefulness)”.Meaning there is no such thing as a person with a perfectly functioning brain who’s in a vegetative state. Additionally, I’m pretty sure Greene touched on this as well during the video, but it could all really come down to the arrangement of the particles that constitute our brain matter.
Ramana Maharishi was one of the great sages of India, and he spoke about sleep in very interesting ways. You can find them in the dialogues in 'Talks with Ramana Maharshi,' which you can find free on the web (I believe it is at Internet Archives or Project Gutenberg). Absolutely fascinating dialogues on this stuff. After many years of studying this sort of material, it remains one of my favorite books. You can also find a very interesting dialogue about sleep and consciousness by doing a YT search for 'J. Krishnamurti Malibu 1970.' He gets into awareness during deep sleep, if your mind is very clear and your life is in order. It's fascinating that a very similar and completely independent dialogue appears in 'Talks with Ramana Maharshi.' Awareness without an object comes up. The mind, empty, completely in order, with no desires or other pursuits, with no thoughts or problems, just being with itself and going deeper into itself, with no subject-object divisions.
Different parts of the brain have different functions, so while one part that controls consciousness, time perception, etc. is not firing as usual, the portion that controls heart beat, breathing, and other vital functions can still be active.
@@isaacrosa584 But, the particles and atoms and physics are still there. The question was why can it be switched on and off? It's the off that leads to the question.
Oh my, I am so glad he is alive and well despite the bad trip. It was an honor for me to have friends back in high school and thereafter approach me to show them how to blaze. I remember showing my friend, Liz, who was one grade older than me in high school, how to use a bong. I remember making her feel safe, being patient, only giving her a small tiny bowl to begin with. Meanwhile, I was packing my bowls like parfait: flower, concentrate, kief, flower, kief. Shout Out to all the potheads who smoke others out and not lace it. Thank you. Love you.
As simple as it may sound , but i want some serious answers to my question : Are psychedelics good or bad ? Any long-term side effects ? Do you become addicted to it ? Thanks for making it clear to me since i am a noob in this field (i found about lsd and psychedelics not so long ago , precisely yesterday so i am trying to get some information on it)
I went to an evening event between Brian Green and Richard Dawkins. Most of the New Yorkers wanted to hear what Richard had to say, I Personally was glad that Brian was there. It’s so easy to understand him. After the event, I was able to also see This man being a great father to his daughter and awesome guys to people around him.
12:40 I thought this during my first few trips too. We seem to think that reality is exactly as we perceive it sober, but psychedelics show you that you can have many different opinions and perceive things differently depending on your state of mind.
2:33 I started believing something like this after an lsd trip. Almost exactly the way he describes it. It just takes a sufficiently complex system for it to be expressed like it is now. And looking forward, you could create a novel, artificial organ giving yourself another sense, and that extra data will make you think/exist different, it's another layer of complexity
I would like to propose that consciousness is simply leftover processing power used to justify decision making once the brain has covered all subconscious processes needed for survival -- So animals that have more efficient brains with more processing power are allotted more consciousness than animals who need all their processing power for subconscious interactions. What are your thoughts?
His weed experience makes perfect sense. A lot of the time when people first get high they have an adrenaline rush from being excited or nervous and that keeps them sober along with the fact that they probably take a veeeery small dosage. And then he overcompensated but was probably much more relaxed so he got hit like a truck haha
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Psilocybin mushrooms saved my life honestly. They helped me see the pure beauty in life, and made me realize how dumb it would be to take myself out.
I've been looking to try some recently, but I can't find anywhere to get them, anyone?
doc.jeanne is your guy. Got all kinds of psychedelics stuff. Guided me through my first ever experience
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I just had my first experience with golden teachers, it was really great! I loved it.
The more I understand the less I understand
its bound to be that way!
No, the more you know, the less you understand. The more you understand, the more you understand.
It’s a paradox
@@bjs301 the less I know the more I understand. The more its snows the more it rains. The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain bagels with cream cheese and smoked salmon.
@@maxkielbasa6079 Thanks for clearing that up. Now I understand.
One day Joe's gonna interview a bag of DMT
Yes man, I can see it already! Hes all messed up! hahahaha
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@@johncap1565 you are not funny
Lmaoo
@@Ay2xy wow he was just trying to reach out and connect with people you shut him up?
Mushroom was good to me
I know, right! It's mind-blowing how psychedelic trips can be so individual and unique, even when people take the same amount at the same time.
Can he be On instgram?
Absolutely! It's incredible to see how psilocybin mushrooms and psychedelics have the potential to make a positive impact on mental health. They've shown promising results in treating depression and anxiety. It's exciting to think about the possibilities they hold for helping people.
Can he send to me in Ohio?
If anonymous delivery is something you're concerned about, he offers that option. He can provide an extra level of privacy and peace of mind. Safety and discretion.
Joe's most subtle "you ever had dmt?" Yet
Yea, the build up before that DMT question was smooth as eggs.
😂😂😂😂
We bully joe.
n. Rymer he’s rich so it’s okay (-8
lol
Brian Greene articulates his thoughts so well. It’s refreshing
He does it for a living. Chose a good profession.
I thought everything he said was absolute horsesh!t if I'm going to be completely honest with everyone, same with Rogan. They're literally talking about nothing and if you think for a second that taking Psychedelics is going to enhance your consciousness or bring you closer to a "divine presence" then you need to do some serious soul-searching. I'm not saying you think this way but Rogan and a lot of his fans do and it baffles me. You don't need any drugs to enhance your consciousness and it sure as sh!t won't bring you closer to God, maybe Satan, but definitely not God. If anything, it separates you from our Lord even further and that's exactly what the Devil wants to do on this planet.
@@christservant2464 if you haven't figured it out yet, Joe and probably 99% of his viewers and guests are not religious.
When they speak of spiritual experiences they don't mean divine. It is simply the best phrasing to try and explain it.
@@Voidova Rogan and most people are on this 'New Age' religious tip, my Brother. Everything to them is smoking DMT and realizing that "eVeRyThInG iS eNeRgY mAAAAAAN" or that we're living in a simulation..
@@christservant2464 You clearly haven't heard Joe talk about his experiences so stop spreading bullshit. That's not at all what they're saying.
You know a story’s gonna be good when it starts with “so I was in Amsterdam”
Preface that with psychedelics and you’ve got yourself someone the best 14 minutes on RUclips.
Yep!
Weed nation?
Tweeakers
Amsterdam is a fantastic city even when you’re not tripping on mushrooms 🍄 ❌❌❌
dutch doctor: here we go again
Hello future person, looking back on this video many years in the future, smiling at how little we knew.
@zakaria azzioui Hello from the future, yeah.. well.... things are fucked up right now, i hoped you enjoyed the past
Dimitris Plex hello from the past
Hello I’m from the future and the world is still fucked up
@@retrovro hello from the future there is hope for the world
@@marcob4477 hello from the future things are still fucked up
Joe “particularly dimethyltryptamine” Rogan
Literally read this comment as he said it made me laugh hahah
@Skeptical Slim hahah great comment xD
I laughed so hard when he said that xD
Heard him say this and had to come to the comment section
@Westsidesnooker 2020 a month or so ago he said hes only done DMT 7 times.
It’s genuinely astounding that Joe “Don’t listen to me... I’m an idiot” Rogan can not only keep, but progress these conversations with such great minds
Joe is unbelievable at learning. His brain is like a sponge
at this point he's had years of listening to people that are smarter than him. the mind if very flexible. even if he was average intelligence to start with, the years of tutoring he's received has made him smarter and given him a broader view on life/reality.
Expect the part when he said conusinessesseses is brain tissue
He just likes to keep himself humble that’s all there is to it.
David Muradov
“conusinessesseses” did you have a stroke?
This guy experienced what it's like to be Rick in an episode of Rick and Morty.
Lmao😂
I once had an experience, can totally be put away for the fact that I did psychedelics, but it felt so real to me...to this day I cannot put into words how this affected me. To be concise, I took some acid and fell very deep into some otherworldly dimension and found my bf, who at the time was struggling with a heroin addiction. He had moved away to deal with it, and I live in Hawaii. He was across the sea in the continental us. I met him in this other world, and told me he needed help...like he straight told me he was dying. I was frying balls and my friends we're trying to calm me down...I snapped out of this and told everyone around me, that he was dying. I told them we needed to go to California and help him. They comforted me and told me everything was okay...I was just tripping. Fair enough. The next day, we found out he od'd and had passed away. I'll never forget my friend tripping out and telling me how crazy that was. I was an atheist then as well. No more. I don't adhere to established religions, but I do believe theres something greater we dont know about. This isn't some comment to change your mind, just something that did happen to me. I also still don't believe in ghosts. But I believe my friend came to me and asked for helped. Makes me wish I could've done more...
Sorry to hear about your bf, may he rest in peace. What a mindblowing thing to experience, it could be anything from your fears of him manifesting themselves to you actually accessing some higher plane of consciousness where you could still communicate w him. Psychedelics are some next level shit, I’ve experienced telepathy on shrooms but thats as wild as my experiences have gotten.
May he rest in peace... especially knowing that you knew and were trying to help. He won't forget. The soul doesn't forget
RIP. I too have had weird similar experiences while on shrooms changed my life for ever
Thats is absolutely breathtakingly powerful, im so sorry for your loss. I can agree with you spirtual awakening though. I've been out of my mind in a manic episode because of a sociopath that abused me. The man she killed before me possessed me and we wrote an email telling her she is killing men. Ever since then I've been awakened to the spiritual nature of our world. I talk about it on my channel if you're interested. Consciousness is fascinating.
Somebody may try to explain it away as your intuition that came to you during a trip, in the form of your bf. No real vision or external communication. It's all just your subconscious thoughts. But then how do you account for the timing? They'd probably say, "well you do drugs a lot, he does drugs a lot. The timing was coincidence". The problem is that these observations aren't necessarily connected themselves and are individual refutes of a various components of a subjective experience. Therefore they don't form a concise, logical flow. If this explanation were the case, you'd have tried to stop him long before in an earlier trip, or had "vision trips" long after he passed, but before finding out his passing.
I've personally had "otherworldly" experiences that make you question reality itself, without drugs or illicit substances. I can't say if what you experienced is real, but I understand how these profound experiences affect you more than anything else.
I’m a simple man. I hear Joe say: “What do you think consciousness is”, I like video.
😊
Literally the least simple question though..
You're a man of culture
this mans vocabulary is amazing
Studying literature Oxford payed off
Your punctuation is atrocious!
@@Ontime2day With a good vocabulary ? If that's all one gets one is royally ripped off. Or "Gypped" as one used to say. I believe that terminology has fallen out of favour with the common folk these days though so I shall obstain from using it once more. *Tips hat and briskly walks in the opposite direction your body mass was heading* After a few steps ' *mumbles* Gremuphh grahhh grrrr fuc k gah . stupid .... fugrghmph. FUCK.
JonnyUnderrated cringe.
@@JonnyUnderrated cringe
My day isn't complete until I catch the latest clip of Joe Rogan talking about DMT.
I love how Joe laughs at him at 10:30 about his bad psychedelic experience lmao we've all been there
Yep😂😭
Lmao no we haven’t
@@amymor7 you should try if you want
how is DMT gonna make its way into this conversation i wonder
i think he was on acid. thats how. the acid.
7:30
8:55
@John Sickler haha. Thereafter. Noice. (;
#GoVegan #GoAgnostic #AstralRealms #Yoga
"Your mind is like this water my friend. When agitated it becomes difficult to see. But if you allow it to settle, the answer becomes clear"
-turtle from a kids movie
808 Motives is this... kung fu panda?
@@AaronVlogsTheIphoneVlogger Ya it is, I think the first one? not sure
Eric Weinstein approves
Master oogway
@@evglea8222 is dead
"I was in Amsterdam" ... Say no more.
"Animals have some sort of consciousness. "
- Joe Chimp Rogan
I'm not a scientist but every time I nut I feel like my consciousness is more focused and clear than any other time. Look into that Jamie
Post N U T clarity, my friend.
Straight up right after I nut and get through the regret phase I feel as if my mind has been cleared and everything makes more sense
@@S0S4D_SIL the f is wrong with you regretting masturbation. Lol enjoy that shit its only one life we know off!
Yes
@@S0S4D_SIL why would you regret it? xd
I am not looking for a DMT plug. Do not hit me up directly please
Yea, me neither.
Same. Definitely not looking for a DMT plug in Florida. If a magic mushroom dealer DM'd me i'd be appalled.
Hahahaha oh well.
Definitely not in orlando FL just waiting for someone to DM me some DMT as a matter of fact DMT stands for Direct Message Transmission dont mind us fbi man
You are on RUclips my son, you are your own DMT plug...
10:55 his trip was his mind trying to tell him he is sick of the monotony of creating theories in his head, destroying them and then reforming new ones and repeating.
This!
I don't know of the monotony, but yeah, since Brian Greene is a theorist, that was the brain way to show his theories and ideas being destroyed while he creates new ones, because that's basically his life; in other words, it was point him in contact with himself.
And psychedelics have nothing to do with consciousness, they have to do with dreams, dreaming while awake.
And if nightmares are a way to reveal emotional disturbances, now imagine that while being awake, that's what is called a bad trip.
i was looking for this comment. I cannot disagree with him in any of what he is saying. He is right: Psychedelic substances are nothing but chemicals that alter our brains.
However, i cannot help but think that he is restrained. He is unable to realize that though chemicals may cause it, it is much more profound than that.
He even had it in front of him and didn’t realize it. His trip was literally about it.
Exactly what came to mind when he explained this. Perhaps he’ll still realize at some point; I doubt he’ll be forgetting the experience anytime soon.
I still get realizations about trips that I had years ago.
Poor guy has an experience in a terrible setting with no understanding of the sacredness, for lack of a better word, involved with those experiences. Now he’s probably turned off them for life. If we as a society can get more of our greatest thinkers to experience more spiritually enlightening hallucinogenic experiences, then we could probably figure out a bunch more about where our understanding of physics is not all the way there.
@@OmniscientSlothExactly. When I think about how in older cultures they ingrained these chemicals into loving and accepting practices and rituals, it makes me believe they were much more advanced as a society than us.
I imagine had he taken it in a better set and setting, and knew exactly what he was doing (chemical wise), he couldve gone in with a better mindset and come out with one as well. His story sounded like it was something he did impromptu and in a new setting (At a hotel??). Sad that he had a rough enough experience to not investigate further.
11:24 “And I actually said to my wife, Tie me up” 🤣🤣🤣
Best topic Joe's had in a while
Very true it s been dry for a while
That's what happens when you invite scientists
This guys is wrong on so many issues...I really didn't like it.He is no scientist just a savy writer.Would love for Joe to get actual scientists on the show not pple trying to promote their fucking book
Need more Hamilton Morris
Davos Holdos he’s had this same exact convo a multitude of times over the past 5 years lol
watching these high is like having my mind blown over and over again
Nice. I'm drunk and getting sad
@@landonic81 wuutt im baked n having a blast
@@federicoanzola2785 girl problems. Apparently I need to switch to weed 😂
High on what exactly?
This guy would be amazing to hear while on Acid or....
dMt.
Get higher next time
*Brian Greene takes acid*
Acid: hi
Brian Greene: TIE ME TO THE BED SHARON!
Lmao good one
Before you can know what you’re seeing, you must know who is seeing.
Why does joe rogan make me want to DMT
I wouldn't say try it without any context. But I would say look into it, it will most likely change your life if you end up taking it.
Do research try shrooms first know what you're doing it isn't for everyone
How do you even get it.
The universe wants you to remember. 🙏
Lake Steeze where can I buy this
I need some of that machine gun weed
edit: everyone who replied to this comment is a chronic stoner
It was probably peyote not weed.
John Cotto you don’t smoke that
John Cotto it might have been Amanita
It was most likely truffles or a type of mushroom
my guess is salvia.
Love Brian. He'll always tell you the counter argument to his in the same manner as his own. Respectable.
10000%
Joe "Your lungs and liver produce DMT" Rogan
Who’s high rn?
I’m high on life
Chomp same. And life’s always better when your high
high on life nxggx
I wonder what the purpose of getting high is like what's the true nature of it
wow 420blazeitm8 it’s simple, dopamine. But I smoke weed because I like the way I think and feel when I do. I also use it to recover from working out I’m never sore ;)
as soon as he says "the world changed" the colors of the camera shifted to a colder tone lmaoo 10:36
Noiceee
Was a vibe change.
Fucking jaime.... He knows what he's doing
Your blue light filter just activated
You know what's insane, Brian Greene has a PBS special about quantum mechanics, and there's this scene where Brian is in a "quantum bar" and converses with other versions of himself.
I remember that video. It was named fabric of the cosmos
@@AnishManikandanneo it's so freaking wild that he would experience these things, right!?!
Ohh yes... It's crazy
The materialist theory of consciousness:
"I have faith we'll figure it out one day."
Jesse Sudich, more like inductive logic that it will be done.
Adam W. just know that all “logic” depends on what we think we know already. if what we think we know ever collapses or changes (which it has many times in the past), “logic” will also change or collapse.
based inner child, it makes sense that our logic would change. As we learn more about the universe, our labels change with it. Logic should reflect our experience with the world.
@@adamx9793 *Logic should reflect our experience with the world.* sure thing. the conflict arises when some people are having experiences with the world that are very different from other peoples' lol. for example, a monk who's meditated for 10,000 hours and broken through the illusion of a personal self, is having a profoundly different experience of the world than the average joe - even the average "brilliant scientist" joe. but it's not so easy to put that kind of experience into numbers and data points like the modern scientific method is limited to. there are biases that can exist fundamentally as a result of the lens we are using to explore the question - in this case a lens that is conditioned to define reality by numbers, calculations, and measurable objects.
Yep that's how the mind works
Instead of rambling if they just sat there and meditated they'd get a direct answer
Better yet be in a natural environment and meditate
Until your consciousness levels rise. You'll notice you go beyond the mind. The mind will be "below" you in a sense or way looking at it
Consciousness cannot be explained through limited words and language
Its all just limited pointers to the actual thing
Thats why God cannot be "put in a box" and labeled and understood by the mind
Its way more vast and beyond the mind
Reality can't be contained in a mind. All of our minds are happening in consciousness
Im a simple man, i see joe rogan, i see DMT, I CLICK
Seen that before. Come original.
you dont click bro. It clicks *YOU* .
Have to say Joe really kept his own countering him on why psychadelics could actually show us another dimension
Urungumburum
Yes, I believe it can based on joe saying he and the people he was with all saw the same thing.
@@nopenoway9875 most people who take dmt describe it in the same way
C k8
But see the exact same thing?
@@nopenoway9875 some are identical do the research yourself just find 2 people from different parts of the world review a dmt trip on RUclips and they'll be fairly similar but most of them talk of wizards and doorways to other places but then theres stuff like lsd that's not so much different realm stuff it can send you on mad trips but its more colours and just distorting your perception, but people who take the same physcadelic normally describe seeing the same things
@Alpha Centauri "...to embrace other dimensions through drugs."
I don't know, that's honestly tough to say. It is the human mind that developed the ability to work it out theoretically. If it could do that why couldn't the mind "embrace" it another way? Also I'm calling Greene a liar about the whole "shrooms in Amsterdam" story.
Plus Joe could fuck somebody up.
I feel like joe is about to get this man high 😂
The truly mind boggling thing was hearing Brian Greene talking about tripping balls and saying the F word.
Get David Icke on. It'd be brilliant.
Yes!
Dream guest right there
Definitely
Ahhh yea!
Fuck yes!!!
10:36-10:38 anyone notice as soon as he said, "The world changed" the lighting of the video shifted a bit....
Yep wtf? Must be consciousness saying your wrong, and here's a clue.
Thats insane is on the word changed exactly
Yes WTF
I love that Joe gets to interview these highly scholar people to ask the questions that we all have. Not that they know everything but at least to have a perspective that isn't just our own thoughts or experiences.
If consciousness is only in the brain, I’d like to hear his theory on the phenomena of twins feeling shared emotions.
It's been studied and nothing has been found. Nothing has ever been found that violates of laws of physics.
I’m a twin and I can tel you that all these twin studies are bullshit
@@xGaLoSx not true, not even close too true
@@deanurschel9161 please show me peer reviewed scientific evidence that phenomenon occur that break our laws of physics? And I'm not talking a lack of our understanding such as what happens in a black hole.
@@xGaLoSx and those are all peer reviewed
Just wondering, how does one eat if one doesn’t generally let foreign substances into ones body
He's an 👽 alien
Oh you knew what he meant smartass lol
Yeah for some reason Brain is assuming food choices don't affect our neurochemistry when even chocolate will change dopamine levels.
Exactly what I wondered.
Depends on your definition of foreign substance
You have to interview John Hatsis!! He’s a psychedelic historian so that would be super dope
Cassandra Morales you mean Tom Hatsis? yes hes amazing!
rickard storholm Yes, him!! Thanks for the correction, I gotta get the right name out there for sure!
Cassandra Morales give me your sharingan
*“We are all one consciousness interactive with itself.”*
― David Icke
"The moon is a base projecting a simulation into our minds, run by the reptilians"
-David Icke.
The guy could compasses point north and i would have to check.
@@MaxDeckard this comment deserves way more upvotes....tf
Welcome to the collective subconcious of particle physics. I like this dudes train of thought and stance on no position. This is the type of mentality required to gather a collection of usefull knowledge. This why practicing arguing both sides of a subject is important. The bigger the perspective the better the understanding.
When I did mushrooms i felt more connected to everything and when I looked at tv/phone screens it looked very pixely. I will definitely being doing shrooms when I go back to Amsterdam.
They are not legal anymore,if you know some locals who are on it,you can buy them,but let me tell you this,illegal selling and buying of mushrooms or any other psychedelic substance can put you in serious problems,i talking about prison even for a little bag with five or six mushrooms.
@Stevie Rios fucking sucks dude they banned the best psychedelic we got here. Atleast we still have truffles
Yea you can just buy the truffles its the same exact thing. Also why would you want to wait till you go to another country? Idk where you live but if you're in America you can get them everywhere.
Whenever I'm on shrooms I always forget that the internet exists. I'm on my phone constantly throughout the day but as soon as those shrooms kick in, I have no interest
@@yubsodumb If you don't really know anyone that does or sells psychedelics, you should go to any music festivals that you can. And not just any music festival. I doubt there's many people at rap festivals doing psychadelics. There's a band called phish that are always at crazy festivals and 90% of the people who go are looking to get high. They usually have everything from nitrous to ketamine there it truly is wonderful. The funny thing is you never hear about people ever getting hurt or causing trouble cuz of psychadelics there but people talk about them like they're the devil! People also exaggerate big time on what its like to take certain substances. Ive hewrd people say they ate a couple hits of acid and an hour later they said they saw crazy animals and plants coming to life. Tripping is nothing like that. If youre a beginner always remember to be in a good safe environment and have a friend whos sober trip sit you. That's the best way till you know you handle any drugs. Hope that will help you in the future.
You should interview Eckhart Tolle!
Enlightenment 🙏🏽
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
Psychedelics are the reason why i didn’t take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I’m doing better everyday and will never think in such a self destructive way again.
LSD and mushrooms completely changed my whole outlook on life. I became a better version of myself
This experience gave me a lot of confidence about my self and my body. A bunch of bad thought / behavior patterns were broken. One of these was pretty bad OCD that made me wash my hands a lot. It gave me a lot of hope that things will be fine, this is the one thing that I heard throughout the trip: Everything is alright. The main reason for the trip was my severe depression and it definitely helped me (although it's not gone). Before all I could do was lay in bed. Now I am trying to rebuild my life one step at a time which wasn't possible before."
[_James_tray]
Got psychs
@@sarahh321 Where to search?? Is it IG?
Last year, I took shrooms at Las Vegas thinking it was going to hit like an edible or something. Shit was scary at first but amazing once you start getting deeper into your thoughts
It’s so funny that joe asks Brian if he had any psychedelic experiences and he says yes, joes face lights up, then Brian proceeds to talk about hitting a joint for the first time 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Its weird because what I took away from my DMT experience was that everything is conscious
We are the same conciousness experiencing itself subjectively
Kudos to you for even trying dmt , I had the chance but pussied out.
I'm a physics student, and the more I understand the laws of the universe, the less I can conceive that something Has no consciousness.
Or at least that the universe itself has one
Got the same message from high doses of psilocybin
At 10:35 when he says "changed" the lighting in the video changes to a bit more blue for a moment.
Basically, we've been tripping since birth but naturally became accustomed to it and call it "normal."
I remember smoking 5meodmt and as soon as I came back from the trip, I sat up and said "wow, life is literally one big DMT trip".
damnnnn
This is a weird experience we are having. Like we look the way we look. And we think and wonder. And do all we can to explain it but its really a very very powerful dream.
A cake is made with ingredients but if you just throw them all in a bowl and add heat it won’t be a cake 🎂
it will be a bowl shaped cake....
No no NOOO!!! It will be a diamond shaped car that has a horny tongue that’ll lick the logo of Walmart
You've got to do the cooking by the book or else the cake will end up crazy.
"We may be humans, but we're still animals." -Steve Vai
❤️
"We may be animals, but we're still humans"
Damn I had the same experience he described. It’s so scary. It feels like complete awareness of a psychotic break and awareness of multiple personality disorder
Hopefully in the near future psychedelic usage will be a common tool for great thinkers and scientists to help them see and figure out the challenges of their times.
I agree with basically everything this guest is saying. He’s not making any unexplained leaps of faith he is just interpreting the evidence with as little assumption as possible.
Exactly.
Eh
Joe “has DMT tried me?” Rogan
This man is talking about how the big bang has created consciousness but Joe is talking about the thing that created the big bang to create consciousness 😂😂
Dizz, that thing must’ve always existed or come from nothing.
exactly!!! the guy isn’t thinking deeply enough! WHY does “physics” even exist in the first place?!? WHAT is a “particle” and WHY does it exist at all? WHERE did it come from? physics is only looking at how things are now. it doesn’t tell us how everything, including the laws of physics themselves, even got here. even the “chemical makeup of the brain” can not be taken for granted like he’s doing.
based inner child, I don’t think anybody knows where the laws of physics come from or why they are here. What do you think?
@Bullet holes for maga hats *"We are not it's voice, we are it's accident."* are stars an accident too? how about solar systems, galaxies and nebulas? who are *you* , a mere human, to decide what of our universe is "an accident", as if you know what is "supposed to be here"??? 🤔 do you think your judgments are god?
@Bullet holes for maga hats *one can deduce from the randomness* "randomness" is a human concept in the first place. the universe does whatever it does, full stop. human minds come in AFTER the fact trying to calculate the possibility of x happening, based on other human observations which are also limited. randomness is simply a convenient word scientists use for "things i don't know the reason for". given that the things we don't know the reason for are so much more vast than the things we do, you have no authority to assume what's "an accident" or not in a universe that existed long before you were even conceived. by the way i'm not religious nor did i ever claim to be. see how quickly your mind makes judgments off of limited information and assumes them to be fact? if you can so easily be wrong about another human being, what makes you so cocksure about your opinions regarding the universe and what is "supposed to" exist within it? not much better than a religious fanatic.
I feel like, asking how all the individual biological component in our body could produce conciusness is like asking how could 0 and 1 do complex calculation and display this video on my phones. At some point i feel like if you add enaugh simplicity you get complexity. But that's just how i feel.
It seems Greene’s understanding of consciousness is a bit premature. To think that his “consciousness” was temporarily modified as a result of the drugs and so it must just be a chemical reaction that’s constantly occurring does seem very fitting for the times... however wouldn’t the “awareness” of what is going on within all of these different states truly be consciousness happening through him? It’s hard to get to the source, but the awareness of all of it in every moment is consciousness, and that was consistent rather he be sober or hallucinating, etc.
What are the differences between opinions here? I'd just like a clarification.
Well said
The question is - what is going on? If you don't know the answer to that question, you can't be aware of it.
But can you just claim to know what's going on, and have confidence enough to believe that claim is the truth without evidence?
Does anyone know? Maybe consciousness doesn't even exist. It seems to be some philosophical term at this point, or an "add your preferred definition here" type of thing.
@@PlumbDrumb I think both are true. On the material plane it's just electrical signals being altered by drugs, yet on the non material plane it's the one eternal mind remembering it is all a dream.
Brian sounds like a person leaning on their own understanding.
which is what all humans do.
1MinuteFlipDoc not all of us. some of us are open to possibilities that don’t fit our preconceived notions and mental maps.
Joe's subtle excitement in his voice when Brian Greene says "yes, I've done them" is great
People like him and the ones who need to experience DMT most of all.
A brilliant mind coherent in that realm is what the world needs more of.
I am really curious how really intelligent, well educated people like that would handle DMT
When Brian Greene talks about particles imbued with consciousness, he's speaking directly to the hypothesis put forth by Donald Hoffman in his book "The Case Against Reality". I highly recommend it! Not saying I agree with his hypothesis, but it's a thought-provoking read, and if you enjoyed the topic Rogan and Greene talked about here, you might enjoy this book.
Also: what if what *we think* consciousness is, actually is just a really primitive form of experience - something that can also evolve
There are two major flaws in our consciousness. We have an innate duality within our psyche that is built by the conscious and subconscious aspects of our mind. The conscious aspect can be so extremely intelligent despite all things; performing complex equations and observations. However, when forming large-scale understandings of complex concepts our conscious mind is fed information by the subconscious mind. (This is where the first flaw lies). The subconscious mind will go to just about any lengths to align new information with old information. It will twist and ignore information if it doesn't align with the current status quo of belief and understanding (This is how people maintain absurd world-views despite all disproving evidence). Furthermore, the same instinctual mechanisms that allowed us to survive as a more primitive species are still fully functional in the subconscious mind. It drives us to fear things we don't understand, seek a sense of purpose within our community, procreate, and consume - all things that helped our ancestors survive. We live in a modern world built by the intelligent conscious minds of the smarted and most driven members of our species but the instinct-driven, information-twisting subconscious is at odds with this world. None of its mechanisms are serving their initial function in this new world. And because of this, we constantly feel the dissonance between our intelligent conscious minds and our primitive subconscious minds. Suicide rates are higher than ever and the whole world is heating up due to our negligence. The only way out of this situation is for our brains, and our minds, to evolve away from these primitive mechanisms. But evolution is slower than human development and can't catch up. There probably isn't a happy ending in sight for the human species and Earth as we know it today.
@@thomasstorey4480 I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said, but with development of the conscious mind there is also a decline in the feelings like happines or even sadness we are able to feel because all of them are felt through the subconscious mind. We are literally turning into machines which is terrifying. That's also why there has never been such a large scale of people with mental health problems. (The fight between the subconscious and conscious mind)
Thomas Storey you’re right in some areas but overall wrong. there IS a way for us to “break free” from what you call the primitive subconscious mind. it’s called waking up, awakening, enlightenment, there are many words for it, and some misconceptions about it. but its REAL. and it’s what happens when a human being discovers a state of awareness that ISN’T ruled by the impulses of their animal brain or their conditioned thought patterns. when someone takes psychedelics (and doesn’t have a “bad trip”) they’re able to experience this open awareness where they feel utterly expansive and no longer bound to whatever their problems, worries, or biases were previously, in addition to whatever more subtle layers of conditioning were controlling their perceptions. hatred and judgment and insensitivity dissolve, and bliss and connection become pervasive in one’s experience.
look up “loch kelly” on youtube, he guides people to it through a series of awareness exercises. of course eckhart tolle and many other teachers (many who teach traditional meditation) talk about it too and try to help people access it and live from within that state of being. but its REAL and it turns pretty much all your predictions and analyses on their head. it’s the trump card that changes everything.
based inner child you think there’s an afterlife where our soul and consciousness goes??
When he said he can experience the color red... we all felt that
Another very clever man that hasnt smoked dmt! Imagine how much he could understand?
Brian Cox and this guy really cant talk without experiencing.
Such a waste of their valuable time!
Lol you can't be serious
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I couldnt be more serious.
Him and Brian Cox could learn things beyond most of our comprehension levels.
I don’t agree with the guest, I think he’s full of shit and ego. He thinks his reality is everyone’s reality but each person is it’s own universe.
"What if C. A. T. really spelled dog" - Ogre (Revenge of the Nerds 2)
Terence Mckenna would have put him to rights. Material reductionism seems too constraining.
When I was in a mist of a mental brake down , I had 5 voices in my head shaming me , ridiculing me, bring up things that broke me , and as this is happening I'm pacing back and forth physically feeling as if I'm getting hit with emotional trauma left and right that honestly felt as if I was really going into a emotional battle , and by the grace of God when you don't think he's working, as I'm in total destruction mode there was a voice that over topped all of the other voices and it commanded my attention, to focus on it . I didn't make me dissect everyone of those fears and anxiety that raged among those five voices and when I really challenged those voices are realized that I was running from the perceptions that I put in my head rather than the reality of the situation and when I put everything in perspective consciously I was able to gather myself up, and take back my power that I allowed to be consumed through emotional baggage that I fear to release so it just kept building and building until everything was hitting me at once, and I can say that that was the worst feeling that I ever physically felt without anybody actually fighting me.
i always drink a spirulina or mango smoothie whenever I eat psychedelics. its always a grade a trip
Could you explain more? How does it change the experience? I’ve sat 6 times so am very curious....
When talking about the mind joe has mostly atheists on . there are well known physicists that believe in cosciousness as a basic reality in the universe.
Keith Greenan Do you have the names and/or videos of those physicists talking on the subject.? I’d like to hear what they say.
@@misterTayO Russell Targ, Sir Roger Penrose, Hal Puthoff. You should read Targ's book on remote viewing. It completely changed the way I view life and consciousness. I think Greene should read that book too
@@misterTayO Listen to some Alan Watts. He is famous for interupting and popularizing Eastren philosophy for a westren audience. I recomend the "Nature of God" lecture, but there is a immense amount of content to choose from. Though he isnt a physicist i think it will be more along the lines of what your searching for.
@@Yusuq_Madeek joe had Penrose on the show
@@misterTayO henry stapp is a well known physicist with some interesting ideas.
I see why he objects to the second theory because that is like saying a block of silver has the potential to have
Consciousness if we rearranged or added electrons , protons , ect. Just an example .
Peyton Vanwinkle how do you know it isn’t?
how do you know it doesn’t already have consciousness? fyi consciousness isn’t the same as thoughts and emotions. those things can arise WITHIN consciousness. but they aren’t consciousness itself. something can be conscious and not have any thoughts. so people like me and aaron aren’t suggesting that rocks might be thinking and feeling human emotions.
i just love brian , awesome scientist , amazing writer and even better a human being.
Still one of my favorite JRE clips ever. This is why I started paying attention to his show. I wish he'd go back to guests and conversations like this with interesting and super-educated people.
the answer is in front of everyone's eyes already, and it's been there since forever, truth is radical and unexpected, you will never reach truth by holding on to beliefs
we cant take what goes against our believes some kind computer will explain it to us in feature
Just think about it...one day you will sleep forever. I can't wait for that day even if I'm having a existential crisis rn. Holy shit. Eternal peace
Nah fam, I rather fack bitches and smoke fat blunts
Yes. you need DMT son, and by DMT I mean Donald Mother Fn Trump.
Peace is a feeling that requires conciousness genius
@@brotothewilliams9890 I was about to say something relative to what you did.
Going into the Void/Afterlife is the merging of the spirit into the great big beyond. Once you die, your human consciousness fails to exist.
So how can you have peace if you can't fully embrace the human experience of consciousness anymore?
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There's no conciousness after death so we feel literally nothing. Nothing isn't even a feeling or thing to experience because once you've experienced nothing then you've experienced something. It's as hard to wrap brain around as infinity it seems
Even if Consciousness is just particles and laws of physics, it's still divine. That we can't deny.
Naw
@@eliminator173 Lol I was waiting on that one comment 😂🤣.
Joe laughing at this man is hilarious 😂😂
Interesting stuff. My thoughts just were the same in consciousness until I stumbled onto this swiss cardiologist who did this study on "dead" people. Perople who died and their brain eeg went flat but came back to life. A lot of them experienced the so called near death experience and talked about beeing at some bright place, understanding everything, beeing without time and seeing their whole life in an instant, communicating to some beeings... Theory says there shouldn´t be anything to "see" when your brain ist quasi dead. The doctors theory is, that your brain is just a receiver for consciousness and tunes into it. It is all over the place and universe. Would´t that be fantastic? Means, that even not believing in god would not be the end. And if one thinks about all the unlikeliness of atoms building structures and systems and a brain that thinks about its "substructures" itself is kind of crazy. When atoms forming a brain means consciousnesses it also implicates that if atoms come together in a certain complexity there should be consciousnesses all over the universe.
Sounds like it would be fantastic but without any testing of this idea it remains completely unfounded and in the realm of wishful thinking imposed on things we don't understand. There is a desperation in humans to make magic anything that isn't easily understood. I think this cardiologists lack of understanding isn't proof of understanding.
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Sorry, the guy is from the netherlands and not switzerland. They published his paper in The Lancet. Near death experience in survivors of cardiac arrest... If you listen to some of his interviews you realize that he is a sane man and that there is this phenomenon.
Sam Parnia's findings are also very interesting. So there is scientific evidence that a stopped heart produces higher states of consciousness. The sceptics say this rather than the other people. The debate now is whether a stopped heart means you are dead. But the higher awareness when the heart is stopped is not even debated now. Odd but there.
Sounds like a high plateau DXM experience. I think its quite possible the typical white light experience is just a result of your sensory input being cut off and your brain "filling in" the missing information with essentially peaceful white noise.
@Natasha Tomlinson I have no idea what this guy did or didn't consider previous to forming his own theory. Your aggression to an idea different than your own on this topic is flat out weird.
On a different note, please consider interviewing David Paulides of Missing 411 CanAm.
Sandy, recommend Paulides through his web site.
As long as there is disbelief about the exclusive role consciousness play about everything, from the atom to the universe nothing will make sense in further understanding of the quantum reality.
Psychedelics may alter experience, but it doesn't alter the consciousness. The awareness of which experience is seen from. I think many people often forget that consciousness remains constant through out all our lives, regardless if we have memory loss, trauma, intoxicated states. Those render our ability of experience to change, but he consciousness behind those experiences remain untouched....maybe
Joe + Psychedelic Talk = 😃 a very happy Joe.
The problem with Greene's view comes with looking at the lack of consciousness. There are states where a brain is functioning perfectly but the person is vegetative - no person there. When you sleep, then awake, you have a sense of time passage and continuety. When you go under sedation, then come out, you have a loss of time. While you were under, your brain functioned, and all the particles were there, yet you weren't. Consciousness does have indications that it's seperate from the body.
There is apparently a so called "on/off" switch ruclips.net/video/W2JysfO5PTY/видео.html
I understand your POV but to say that a person in a vegetative state could have a perfectly functioning brain is not correct.
“A vegetative state occurs when the cerebrum (the largest part of the brain) is severely damaged (making mental function impossible), but the reticular activating system is still functional (making wakefulness possible). The reticular activating system controls whether a person is awake (wakefulness)”.Meaning there is no such thing as a person with a perfectly functioning brain who’s in a vegetative state.
Additionally, I’m pretty sure Greene touched on this as well during the video, but it could all really come down to the arrangement of the particles that constitute our brain matter.
Ramana Maharishi was one of the great sages of India, and he spoke about sleep in very interesting ways. You can find them in the dialogues in 'Talks with Ramana Maharshi,' which you can find free on the web (I believe it is at Internet Archives or Project Gutenberg). Absolutely fascinating dialogues on this stuff. After many years of studying this sort of material, it remains one of my favorite books.
You can also find a very interesting dialogue about sleep and consciousness by doing a YT search for 'J. Krishnamurti Malibu 1970.' He gets into awareness during deep sleep, if your mind is very clear and your life is in order.
It's fascinating that a very similar and completely independent dialogue appears in 'Talks with Ramana Maharshi.'
Awareness without an object comes up.
The mind, empty, completely in order, with no desires or other pursuits, with no thoughts or problems, just being with itself and going deeper into itself, with no subject-object divisions.
Different parts of the brain have different functions, so while one part that controls consciousness, time perception, etc. is not firing as usual, the portion that controls heart beat, breathing, and other vital functions can still be active.
@@isaacrosa584 But, the particles and atoms and physics are still there. The question was why can it be switched on and off? It's the off that leads to the question.
Oh my, I am so glad he is alive and well despite the bad trip. It was an honor for me to have friends back in high school and thereafter approach me to show them how to blaze. I remember showing my friend, Liz, who was one grade older than me in high school, how to use a bong. I remember making her feel safe, being patient, only giving her a small tiny bowl to begin with. Meanwhile, I was packing my bowls like parfait: flower, concentrate, kief, flower, kief. Shout Out to all the potheads who smoke others out and not lace it. Thank you. Love you.
As simple as it may sound , but i want some serious answers to my question :
Are psychedelics good or bad ? Any long-term side effects ? Do you become addicted to it ?
Thanks for making it clear to me since i am a noob in this field (i found about lsd and psychedelics not so long ago , precisely yesterday so i am trying to get some information on it)
Joe can slip DMT into any conversation with anyone.
I need to try dmt once before I die
That story was hilarious and the way Brian Greene told it was definitely a huge part of why it was funny. He has such a way with words lol.
Appreciate your comments_
Vick trippz is the best Psychedelic plug.
I think that's the funniest drug story I've ever heard. Brian Greene tripping.😂
I went to an evening event between Brian Green and Richard Dawkins. Most of the New Yorkers wanted to hear what Richard had to say, I Personally was glad that Brian was there. It’s so easy to understand him. After the event, I was able to also see This man being a great father to his daughter and awesome guys to people around him.
12:40 I thought this during my first few trips too. We seem to think that reality is exactly as we perceive it sober, but psychedelics show you that you can have many different opinions and perceive things differently depending on your state of mind.
2:33 I started believing something like this after an lsd trip. Almost exactly the way he describes it. It just takes a sufficiently complex system for it to be expressed like it is now. And looking forward, you could create a novel, artificial organ giving yourself another sense, and that extra data will make you think/exist different, it's another layer of complexity
Brian is so well spoken, listening to him is like listening to an audiobook where every sentence took considerable planning and rewriting.
I would like to propose that consciousness is simply leftover processing power used to justify decision making once the brain has covered all subconscious processes needed for survival -- So animals that have more efficient brains with more processing power are allotted more consciousness than animals who need all their processing power for subconscious interactions. What are your thoughts?
His weed experience makes perfect sense. A lot of the time when people first get high they have an adrenaline rush from being excited or nervous and that keeps them sober along with the fact that they probably take a veeeery small dosage. And then he overcompensated but was probably much more relaxed so he got hit like a truck haha