As a Thai, he's 100% correct. The Thai Culture around Muay Thai is so different. It's not about the money, it's about the respect for the culture and honoring your family. You can litterly go to Thailand and visit some of the top legends of Muay Thai, and they live normal lives. They still train every day, holding pads, walking in flipflops and meditating. Respect Paddy for knowing this!
Watching Sylvie von Duuglas' RUclips channel brings this to light. There's a word they use ('Ruup') that refers to the kind of swagger and 'go with the flow' attitude I've seen from Thais. Literally* (I'm an English tutor; don't kill me)
@@fuzzmanx exactly. And Thais train very lightly. It's never HARD, but more fun. And in Muay Thai fights, often the first two rounds are slow and light, then it turns up
I wish UFC fighters have more honor. It becoming WWE clown show. It kind of a joke now. It is their business and it gets rating. I mean baseball and football do well and they don’t need be a complete clown show to get ratings. The UFC might get less views, but I feel like it is more of a real sport.
@@chris.flores no, people in England always say this about scousers (people from Liverpool) because they sound so different from the rest of England. It’s just an English joke
ive been a guest at proper thai fights and i was blown away by watching thailands biggest mauy thai stars happily circulate through the crowds signing hundreds of autographs and posing for pics with fans in the audience. they were so down to earth and showed no signs of prima donna attitude etc, and not only that it was an all ages family friendly type atmosphere, from little kids to frail old ladys, it was not the expected crowd of bloodlusting maniacs i expected to be rubbing shoulders with lol.. the whole experience totally won me over and gave me enormous respect for the fighters who are national heros over there and for good reason as well.
I accidentally ended up in an alley somewhere in the outskirts of Bangkok because I heard some noise. Sounded like someone was getting their ass beat and people cheering so I had to investigate. After walking through the most quiet street you could imagine I rounded the corner to see a UFC quality like Muay Thai event with ring girls, guys flying around on cameras and a sick lineup with people from Cambodia to Canada. I didn't wanna pay crazy prices to see it, because i wasn't that interested at the time, so I asked the Thai dude how much it cost and he just laughed and pointed to a seat. I'm so used to sports events being extremely overpriced after living in the US for a while, but the people there were literally there just for the joy of it. That's what a lot of US sports are lacking. The regular fan cannot afford tickets most of the time, so it doesn't feel real. Anyways; I sat down and loved every second of it. The honor, the style of fighting and the atmosphere. I went to Chiang Mai afterwards to train Muay Thai and plan on doing the same in Phuket this winter. Just love the sport and the people, everything about it. It's not often going into a dark alley after midnight really pays off, but for me it did:)
I visited a village of Thai fighters, kids from 6 years old to men in their 40s and 50s. I went to one of the fights, and these guys just beat the pulp out of one another. Their faces were not recognizable afterwards. However, once the matches were over, everyone was hugging and laughing, and I also learned, win or lose, they shared the money. Coming from the US, it was a strange experience.
It's cool to see organizations like ONE, who convert a lot of stadium Thai fighters into Muay Thai. Makes you wonder if fighters like Rodtang will inspire the next generation to start training their wrestling/grappling earlier on 🤔
I was thinking this same thing. Similar to the way UFC fighters have influenced younger generations to, for example, get involved in high school wrestling or BJJ to balance out karate, taekwondo, boxing, etc. at an earlier and earlier age here in the States.
That impossible for now and near future at very least. In Thailand, they are various small muaythai events for rookies to farm their experiences before they can level up. There is nothing like that for MMA. The more muaythai prospers in its motherland (as it should be), less and less kids are interested in any other martial art for professionalism. The advent of ONE even further encourages Thai kids to go for muaythai.
I feel like Charles Oliveira incorporates a Thai stance into his game very well. He's so comfortable off of his back in guard that he doesn't care about the threat of being taken down. The stance affords him in that aggressive come forward style
Great thing about MMA. You can mold your style to your strengths. Many different stances work. Oliveira, Thai stance. Rose, I'd say is a boxing stance. Early Conor, Karate. It's all about how it accents your strengths and covers your weaknesses. For the Thais, they don't have the level of wrestling and grappling to make that stance work like Oliveira does.
lol difference between incorporating it all in your fighting to using some form of it with other highly effective fighting styles. like he’s a killer with jujitsu
Well, if you watch ONE FC you should have noticed by now that 99% of the time a Thai loses to a foreigner he will not even congratulate his opponent or pay the respect of waiting in the ring for the announcement, so how does this fit with your fantasy of Thai fighters?
I attended a Muay Thai match in Bangkok in 2007 and it was a very cool experience. What was most surprising, as the video hints to, is that there's almost more pageantry and ceremony than there is fighting. It's akin to Sumo in Japan. Very structured fights, but tons of traditional choreographed dances/movements to start things off.
omg i love sumo and muay thai but sumo wrestlers are way more reveared as some unachievable being and it seems like they focus a lot on social status and heirarchy
The greatest fight I ever saw was a Thai fight 33 years ago between two 16yr Olds. 4 rounds of brutal, spiteful, brilliant fighting. It looked like a fight to the death. When it was over there was pure respect for each other.
Just look at Rodtang,one second he looks like he's gonna murder you, next he's on his knees bowing before you when the bell goes. Same as Buakaw. Ruthless like an ax murderer until the bell goes. It's cool to watch.
@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 Don't be foolish. There is a lot to be said for the effects of training in combat sports on the psychosocial development of a young person. In that respect, common sense, conventional wisdom, and the scientific literature all seem to agree that it's good in general.
@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 hoinestly, thats the best thing about watching sports. i think baseball, basketball, football, etc are stupid until there is a fight. at least with muay thai, they have other sorts entertainment while you wait for the fight.,
@@andulasis6283 broooo yesss! I would pay 2x the ppv to see this. The respect and rep of both companies would b on the line. Dana and chatri would be the most stressed men in the building and it would b epic to watch
Ive spent many months in Thailand and always wondered why there was never any fighters crossing over- Especially given how dedicated and talented many of them are. Makes a lot of sense! Those fights are still amazing to watch though. There are fights nearly every single night in different venues and my favorite were the ones in the countryside. It would be like $10-15 for RINGSIDE seats and $1-2 a beer. The atmosphere was LIT and the fights were real bangers. So much fun!!
Also modern MMA is a separate sport and you need to train it and not some other sport. Given how good video preps are now a days you can't have obius weaknesses. Just look at how Ben Askrin did, fastest knockout in history.
It’s brutal those elbows to the face you may as well be hitting someone in the face with a square iron rod or a heavy blunt knife. Moves like that for killing.
Myself and my maters were on hols at a bar in Koh Samui, Thailand years ago. There was a bouncer there who we all thought he was a bit wirey for a bouncer. Didnt look that intimidating. He was about the same height and physique as us. He just looked normal. Anyway later on in the night a drunken English guy was gettin aggro with other customers and also with the bouncer. The bouncer just stood there arms folded.....We were all watching to see what would happen. Eventually the drunkard went to push someone. Suddenly the bouncer, from no where & with the speed and agility of a cat, did a high kick to the guys chest and kicked him over some plants and right out the bar. Never seen anything like it. It was unreal how quick he was & how much power he got in to the kick........We made sure never to annoy a Thai bouncer after that.
Remember they do Muay Thai as part of school… I saw three English guys laughing at a Lady Boy… next thing there was nothing Lady about her and they got destroyed before licking their wounds and moving on… it was probably the funniest most disturbing fight I’ve ever witnessed 😂
A new hire of mine is a young guy from Thailand. He's only been in America a few months now, really loves muay thai. Tells me about it all the time, I've always been a huge fan of it so it's really interesting hearing it from someone who did it and knows much about it.
I moved to Thailand half a year ago, knowing nothing about the culture nor customs. But there was a muay thai gym right across the village, so I went there and started taking private classes for 4 months straight (still going almost daily). Comperatively to what I was used to paying for stuff in TH, It was rather expensive (250$/month), but at a 5 minute walking distance and 3-4 trainings per week from 8am; that still felt like a steal. It wasn't until my trainer told me that he'd be traveling abroad to train fighters that I found out that he's a local champion and regional legend. He had a going-away party, and so many people came.. .And here I was, no-name me chilling with this guy every other day, private training and sparring before breakfast. Getting my ass handed, but always humbly so with laughs. Now training with another trainer who has been at it since he was 6. The experience of training with these guys is one of the main reasons why I am enjoying my stay here so much. And they are so good, whenever I thought "I had it", they would just adjust their skill like turning the volume up a little, and I'd be feeling like I am back to the first day I walked into that gym. After a few weeks I would improve, and then they would turn the volume up a bit...I am not even sure where their limit is on that, because they are training people all day long, from the morning until the evening. And then also fighting tournaments.
Sounds like a great bunch of guys. Hard to find martial artists that thread that needle between crushing trainees or just clowning around with them. Respect.
It's a relief to see native speakers confused in the comments, cause English is my second language and after ten seconds of Paddy talking I was crying internally going "Man I didn't think I was THIS shit"
Been to Trat. Saw a muay tai fight in BK where this guy got his shin battered and it came up with a huge scary haematoma. I dont blame your decision to walk away!
In my experience, the Thais love all combat sports its just that Muay Thai is their own brand. You do see Thais doing well in boxing but because it's at the lighter divisions they don't make the headlines. Why switch to a different sport when you have already made your name domestically? The rewards in boxing are much higher than UFC so that is the logical switch if you want global recognition.
Only thing i understood clearly was the title. Everything else i had to turn off my AC, my ceiling fan, asked everyone outside to be quiet for about 2 minutes, hid in the quietest closet of my house, took ritalin to retain information and made sure to focus like ive never focused before so i can finally understand what was being said....Then i realized the closed captions pretty much did the trick
Yes, with a little practice, you will be able to understand English as it is spoken by the English natives who brought the language to the world. When you hear how English is properly spoken by the natives in their own dialect, you begin to understand why English is spoken the way it is instead of how Americans mispronounce all the words, or I should say, with a different dialect.
@@robertchiarizia9463 Paddy's regional accent is probably not the same way English was spoken when some English colonists came to America. Just because Paddy is from the UK does not mean his regional accent from 2020 is the original way English was spoken.
@@-whackd it IS actually how it is originally spoken. Have you been to Britain yet? In some places American, it is still spoken similar to the English who came to America. The Eastern shore of Maryland has one island where it sounds like Paddy. American English mostly sounds like immigrants speaking a second language pronunciation. Say schedule…an American says it the Dutch way. Theatre, colour, all these are pronounced properly in Britain. The American version leaves out the subtleties in the language, so it doesn’t sound like it is spelled. In Britain they pronounce it how it is spelled.
Absolutely spot on... and I love Muay Thai with a passion... but pure MT or a MT based stance in MMA can be risky... you Absolutely have to melt them together... and the culture is definitely a factor. The Thais are a proud strong people for sure! Love their art and culture!!!
not spot on if someone drops low for a take down they would get kicked done muay thai for a few years KICKboxing also just would have to lean and drop on top the legs are very conditioned
There’s no ground game in Muay Thai because in the real battlefield in the past. If you fall to the ground you die. You got stab, got stomp. And in real life if you fall, you got jump by several enemy. Cuz there’s no one on one fight here. If you piss someone, they always come back in group. So you gotta be on your feet to survive. Also, Thai people think it’s not honorable to fight on the ground. It’s a culture thing. But things started to change. Muay Thai fighter start learning MMA more each day.
went to Thailand on vacation 14 years ago and i dragged my family to the Lumpinee stadium, they really didn't feel like it but i did not take no for an answer and there i saw the greatest fight i've ever seen (and i've seen a lot tbh, i'm a big fan of combat sports) it was the main fight between two young undefeated fighters of around 18 years old and these guys were unbelievably talented and their determination was crazy the skills on display were ridiculous and it was incredibly high paced from start to finish, really not your average Muay Thai fight you really got the sense these guys were fighting for the pride of their family, somehow their fight seemed to convey that emotion it's like we witnessed 2 ancient warriors fighting for their families and we just happened to be lucky enough to see them honestly i felt unworthy of watching a fight this great, words cannot do it justice after the fight my family could not stop talking about it, they were in complete awe of what they had just seen (i was in complete awe as well, but i tried to be cool about it lol) and still, whenever we talk about our vacation to Thailand that fight is the first thing that comes up
@@zinowor hahaha there is a beer brand named paulaner, so in this case its refering to a "beer garden" (not sure if thats a word, but a place where you drink beer basically) so stories out of there are usually not true/over-exaggerated
That's the difference between fighting with a purpose and fighting with a paycheck. A lot of times UFC is about fighting for a paycheck, but I understand entirely what you're talking aobut with what you witnessed. Very rarely do we ever see that kind of determination or 闘志 from Westerners -- it's a very different feeling, and makes you appreciate the art and skill that they possess to exhibit their talents in the way that they do.
Valentina Shevchenko would be a good example of a muay thai/kick boxing fighter (17 time world champion, and competed in that sport professionaly since the age of 14) before she came to the UFC. She's a 3rd degree black belt in Taekwondo, started at the age of 5, a black belt in Judo, and master of sport in Sambo. She's incorporated all these and others in her MMA style, which is almost unbeatable! So far!
@@fvgc454ss Bantomweight division is the talentless one, except for the top 5 or so who is there? There's lots of talent in Flyweight now moving there way up, soon to be more stacked than Straweight!
Even in the golden era of Dutch kickboxers the Thais beat the Dutch 9 times out of 10. Nowadays the French are better than the Dutch fighters and so are even the English. Thai boxers are unrivalled completely.
My favorite Mauy Thai fighters came mostly from K1, meaning Buakaw and Yodsanklai. But it opened my eyes up to Saenchai who is the Anderson Silva of their sport
@@juliannakaberovsky4545 You could say the same for UFC guys competing in Muay Thai. They don't have a chance at Muay Thai rules. That's why people like Anderson Silva come to Thailand for, because they want to be better strikers.
MMA ARE MODERN CLOWNS ACTING TOUGH AND ROUGH BUT THEY ARE NOTHING.....ASIAN FIGHTERS ARE HUMBLE BUT DANGEROUS. DONT CHOOSE MONEY AND FAME LIKE WESTERNS CLOWNS....
I've attended muay thai fights in Thailand a few times. Last time, I remember a fight between two early teens, one took an elbow to the skull (loud thud sound), and was carted off. Insane stuff.
Just to clear up what he's saying. Muay Thai absolutely does work in MMA and the UFC since it's been proven BUT the stance itself (elbows up, 1 knee up as a defence with all your balance on 1 leg) invites the take down, since your balance leg is your single point of failure. The art itself is very effective and destructive, just the stance needs to be worked into an MMA format for it to be effective. Most consider Muay Thai along with Jiu Jitsu the core of MMA (strong striking with strong grappling and submissions). Ofc this is not the rule but most find this to make you a well rounded fighter, you can branch off into other areas to fill in the gaps of your martial arts.
I feel like Muay Thai and wrestling work better together, especially Greco Roman. The clinch carries over to all types of wrestling very well (especially Greco Roman though), and you basically know how to handfight for a good position in the Muay Thai clinch, so you learn throws, takedowns, defenses, and there is a little difference in the clinch, but it is mostly positioning, so Muay Thai helps you a lot with wrestling (except the traditional Muay Thai stance doesn’t work well with wrestling, but it isn’t hard to modify it.
The stance thing is spot on, I was a boxer and some MMA guys and to be fair Thai guys used to come to our gym to brush up on boxing and spar boxers. Whilst the guys were often tough and had good hands the squared up stance made them so easy to hit (creates a much bigger target than the more side on) and also other than a few 'freaks' badly reduced their power, as often compared to a boxer they were 'arm punchers'. This is why Conor was considered a puncher in MMA but Floyd said he had no real power in boxing terms. Let me get this clear, no disrespect to MMA as in a cage a decent MMA guy would take me down and choke me out quick (unless I could land something big first) and a decent Thai fighter would wreck my damn legs 🤣
You will find that with most kickboxers that they are not that good with their hands but you will find the same holds true for Boxers that do play with Kickboxing.
The Muay Thai stance you're referring to sounds like Dutch Kickboxing which is basically boxing mixed with Kyokushin Karate: some gyms wrongly call it Muay Thai because people like Ramon Dekkers and Rob Kaman travelled to Thailand to beat the Thais at their own game. Dekkers, Kaman, Bas Rutten, Peter Aerts and Alistair Overeem use it. If you want to see true Muay Thai in the UFC then that'd have to be Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua who is an absolute savage in MMA
@@ronki23 interesting, didn't know that and assume all those Dutch guys were Thai practitioners. Surely the traditional Thai style is still waay more squared up than a boxing stance though, just for the ability to throw a kick particular from tye back leg?
Funny, I’m a Kiwi that spent a few years working all over the UK and I can understand him just fine. Only worked in Liverpool once, in Toxteth on a fortnight long install and for a laugh, I put on a Scouse accent while I was there. On my last day I just spoke with my normal NZ accent and they all went "Fookin hell dere lah, you do a fookin bustin Aussie accent"….
@ That’s actually hilarious. We live in the Midwest US, near St. Louis but in Illinois. We were in Mexico and I talked to a guy from Ireland that was very difficult to understand. There are soooo many accents in the US. Some of those Deep South ones are tough, Cajun (Louisiana) in particular. ✌️😎
@@alanratay4583 No offence but even before you said this I was going to say that my guess is that the native English speakers who can't understand him are either American or from London. I'm Irish and understand him fine. I think people who are used to being around regional accents find it easier to understand other regional accents. Aside from Cajun and some Appalachian regions, American accents tend to be quite generic in terms of dialect. Very clear and defined. Whereas on this side of the Atlantic the accents are much more diverse and thick.
@ I worked for a utility company for 34 years. There was a safety supervisor from Virginia on a job once. He was next to impossible to understand. New York and (believe it or not) Rhode Island have extremely thick accents. You can understand them, but they’re very harsh people. People up north like Minnesota or Wisconsin have accents, but you can understand what they’re saying. Chicago people are harsh as well. They will physically fight at the drop of a hat. P.S. You didn’t offend me. I take everything with a grain of salt. ✌️😜
@@alanratay4583 I know a girl from Wisconsin. I notice a slight twang that makes her sound a little bit Canadian. Although I don't know if you'd hear it that way. You being from Illinois you might hear a Wisconsin accent different to how I hear it. But sure I can often pick up on different accents from different US states. But here it's more like different accents for every county or town. Sometimes I might struggle a bit with an American accent or dialect like a thick Cajun or Appalachian or African American (if it's spoken particular fast), but over here I'll sometimes struggle with an accent that's from the next county. One time I struggled with an accent that was from the county I'm living in. It was an Irish Traveller accent, so think Brad Pitt from Snatch.
I will say ONE FC is starting to push some boundaries, the DJ vs Rodtang mixed rules bout was sick even if not official, but it shows that Muay Thai fighters are starting to take MMA a bit more seriously, there's a few fighters at ONE that have made the transition already and are doing pretty well.
The Rodtang vs Mighty Mouse fight about a month ago on One Championship was a good example of how Thai fighting doesn’t really work in mma. If you haven’t watched it it’s worth a watch.
That match is an example of a pure Muay Thai fighter vs a well-rounded MMA fighter. In that case, Thai fighting will not work as Rodtang's style can be countered by the different weapons that Demetrious have. Of course, Rodtang did try to switch his style using karate techniques but his ground game is absolutely zero. Now if you're talking about an MMA fighter with Muay Thai as his main weapon... Then it would tell a different story. Same goes to an MMA fighter with Karate as main or even Jiu jutsu as main. My point here is fighters who do not adapt different styles in their game would definitely lose. Thai fighting CAN WORK! Only if the style is incorporated with other styles too!
@@jonathanjuliman5628 I think people forget the the main point of mma is that its mixed and not pure. If you are a pure whatever stick to that type of fighting because by fighting other rules you just handicap yourself unless you adapt.
It does work and is the base for a lot of mma striking. Like everything else though it needed some changes to suit mma that made it a bit less recognizable but if you know what to look for you'll see muay thai techniques all over mma fights
“You don’t fuck with the Thais” I did a 2 month Muy Thai training camp at Sor Vorapin 2 in 2013z They can generate insane power, I learnt a lot and the experience changed me.
Ppl think he's arrogant because of how he acts during his fights but he's such a nice respectful person so respectful to other people and other cultures
In a boxing only setting yes but when you can throw all parts of the body the Muay Thai stance is king. Only reason it doesnt work for mma is because of takedowns. “Tell me you’ve never fought Muay Thai without telling me you’ve ever fought Muay Thai.” Is what your comment is lmao stick to whatever it is you do bevsuse you don’t know jack fucking shit about fighting clearly.
He is absolutely correct. Those stances don’t work in UFC. A boxer especially has to modify his stance or he’s getting a takedown in round one straight away. But to be fair, actual combat allows a lot of defenses for these kinds of fighters against a grappler/shooter/BJJ guy that neutralize the shoot.
@@AntonAdelson they have to adapt their stance to more of a Kung Fu stance instead of jab hand foot forward stance. From there they can throw leg blocks on the kicks or shuffle. Typically circle to the kickboxer’s weaker side and get up inside the kickboxers reach, use uppercuts and hooks, elbows and knees in MMA. Boxing is still powerful and effective but requires the MMA stance mod to work effectively. One reason you always see Conor sticking his jab hand out. This is a kickboxer type of adaptation of boxing for range and other MMA type moves, counters. Kickboxers have the palms of the hands open towards the opponent where traditional boxers are closed fisted. Open palms allows for a lot of options offensively and defensively over closed fists. I wouldn’t be surprised if Tyson adapts to this style when he gets in the Octagon.
@@newerest1 lol, if that is what he wants to use for combat, sure, if he has it on him. Mouthy people in public usually have a concealed weapon, one reason they are so mouthy.
@@newerest1 a real man fights with his fists though. Then you both can have a beer afterwards and Pat each other on the back. But yeah, in today’s world, I suppose you have to assume you are in mortal combat and have to go nuclear on your challenger immediately.
my respect is growing for this young man's skills and character... wasnt super impressed with his striking from a couple CWs I saw and of course he was almost KOd in his first UFC ... but he must be a seriously hard worker because he's gotten so much better so quickly... AND he seems to be a nice dude so he's no longer giving me the Malcom McDowell Clockwork Orange freaky vibe that he used too...
Yeah exactly, clipped by a nobody; when he meets a top 10 striker in the divison he is gonna struggle to last even one round without getting pieced up. There is levels to this game, this chump can't even understand the basic importance of not letting your weight balloon in between fights. Guy is a media whore clown.
A nice dude? He got his Twitter account banned for hate speech and was accused of racism and anti Muslim sentiment multiple times. Look up what he said about Khabib. He's a fool
@@shah5524 His twitter got taken down because they only just realised he was ban evading from ages ago and his insta got banned earlier this year because he called someone a fat cunt. What did he say about Khabib? He's the karen of MMA? Who tf actually cares?
there's been some thai guys crossing over into mma in recent years (particularly in one championship where they have muay thai, kickboxing & mma together) but yeah you can't just go in and fight like that, some adaptation is needed to incorporate grappling, ground game etc and like paddy says the stance is vulnerable to shooting. that said though, muay thai is all over mma but it's specific techniques rather than an all-round fighting style. you can totally see ppl like anderson trained muay thai cos of the wing knees in the clinch (also it's the muay thai grip round the neck), flying knees etc, and the teep (push-kick) is pretty ubiquitous in mma now as well. also muay thai leg-kicks & elbows are some of the best around
Muaythai is for Muaythai sport which is reduction of Muaythai Boran. Muaythai Boran has throwing locking and breaking technique with stance similar to MMA
He's right. Muy Thai stance does invite takedowns. However, I've been watcing MMA for a couple decades now and I will say this- I have noticed that the fighters that do extremely well are the ones that start with a Muy Thai background at an early age and then immerse themselves in a lot of grappling for a number of years, such as wrestling or sambo or BJJ. That's a very good skill set- Muy Thai plus any of those grappling styles. But that type of fighter would still have to change up his stance a bit in order to avoid takedowns and leg kicks. He would have to make his stance a bit more compact and avoid a very wide base. It's all about adapting. The best fighters are the ones who can adapt.
I been around from the start as well and you are at least half wrong lol. Not all fighters who do extremely well start with Muay Thai. Maybe not even most. From Randy Couture to Khabib. Some of the best to ever do it never even thought about Muay Thai. An to be honest most MMA guys who trained Muay Thai were really training Dutch but thought it was Muay Thai. Anderson Silva and Aldo both did this.
I’ve been watching UFC since 2009 I was 13 years old back then. I was into boxing first being from England, I like what you said. Would you agree that nobody uses a Muay Thai clinch anymore like Anderson or Wanderlei used to, and that if used now it could be a secret / hidden weapon type thing? And also how does Thai stance vary to Kickboxing stance for MMA you reckon?
I would argue that there are different kinds of muay thai stances depending on the gym and style, that actually works in MMA. You see quite a few top Thais fighting in ONE under MMA rules lately, and some like Stamp Fairtex has been doing really good. Nice strong stance that is wider and lower than the stereotypical muay thai stance, powerful punches, kicks, and good takedown defence that leads to elbows on the opponents' back of the head.
I love Stamp but using woman’s mma to prove something works is pointless. They are still years behind where the men are. Also One isn’t all world beaters there. One, like Pride, is very careful with how many and what wrestlers they bring in. They are entertainment first and they are not loading the roster with wrestlers. At least not the best of the best. So you can strikers in the mix that wouldn’t make it in a wrestling heavy promotion. Given wrestling has been the most dominant you can’t really say they are going for the best fighters. This allows many of the countries with poor wrestling infrastructure to compete which is most of your Asian countries which have stronger striking cultures.
@@dperry203 They definitely do try to not let it become too much like UFC, and I agree with that move, they’re making themselves unique. More striking oriented but still has the grappling/wrestling element. That’s what draws a lot of UFC fans to them who likes to see both but don’t want to see a match with 80% of it being on the ground. Introducing Mighty Mouse into their roster was a good move too.
I teach karate myself. But Muay Thai I need to add into our curriculum. I own a dojo. The strikes just totally make sense. Karate has great footwork and timing. But I feel like karate needs that mix to work. It needs that harshness that Thai has. The reality of getting punched in the face.
Muay Thai is a standing sport, i think that comes with a certain amount of honour. Once your opponent falls or is swept you stop and allow them to get up.
Paddy is a class act. Humble and good natured. I'm going to enjoy watching you become a champion, you deserve it. Also, I'm very sorry about the loss of your friend.
I practice My Tie i almost strangled myself and still can't get the loop neck twist the thumb tuck inside chin up move. It's a proper skill kid i tell yah.
I imagine you would have adapt your styles to match MMA. So, you could never be a purest at anything and would have to mesh your styles together to be affective. There have many great fighters with a strong Muay Thai base. Anderson Silvia, Carlos Condit, and shogun Rua we're some of my favorites.
Also most of them retire around age 22-25, lol. I got sponsored by a gym in Thailand and fought there for a couple of years. I wish we could throw some of those kids into MMA training and see what happens, because they are unbelievable. When you see an 8 year old running 8km and then training for 2 hours, it's hard to compare that to our kids in the west
It’s hard to compare? It’s pretty easy to compare. Other sports are popular in the west. I’ve played football at a high level in the Netherlands, and when I was 8, I trained 3 hours a day. Just like every other kid in the same team or competition. If our culture was more focused on fighting, it wouldn’t be much different from Thai kids.
@@ct0332 I would be careful about comparing football training to fight training. Especially in kids. Those kids fight full Thai rules full contact, elbows, knees, no pads from like 6 years old. Their training is so much more brutal and unforgiving than you can probably comprehend unless you've been there and seen it for yourself. Western kids would be crying for mummy or just quit. I am 100% sure that the vasy majority (like 99%) of our western kids aren't capable of their training regime because they're used to lives of comfort and relative luxury
@@manfrombritain6816 I would argue it's a tiny proportion of western fighters doing well in top Thai stadiums. Look at the Top Thai stadiums like rajadamnern. There are thousands of western Thai boxers in Thailand, yet literally only a handful of westerners make it to rajadamnern. 99% of them get slaughtered in the mid ranks.
I did kickboxing for over 4 year's then later in life did Mauy Thai for around 6 months, but had to stop as it was destroying my knees. I was getting older. My mate was a boxer and he struggled because of a boxer's stance is different from kickboxing and he'd get kicked regularly, but he had fast hands and good punch, but still he couldn't get on with being more upright.
Something similar myself. Went about 2 yrs with Thai training. Feet were messed up. Couldn’t stop some parts from bleeding. And bags. Went through bags like crazy. I went to a local gym and hit their heaviest bag. When I slapped the bag against the ceiling tiles, couldn’t hit their stuff anymore. It’s an awesome art. The consistency of kicking becomes real power eventually.
British Muay Thai is some of the best in the world & the reason Paddy has this knowledge & outlook is because where he is from, his trainers would have had to travel to Thailand a lot in the early days to get the real training in. This is why britain is well known for its Muay Thai. The same goes for my area of the Uk, my coaches & the majority of the other coaches in the surrounding counties were the ones travelling to the source in the 80’s & 90’s. That’s why the knowledge & respect is there.
@@shaneashby5890 so, do you mean aside from thailand which country is the best and then which country is 2nd best? so, which country is 3rd best including thailand?? your question is very poorly worded.
@@TheNemesis442 Thailand is undeniably number one, it’s their sport. I would never insult Thai people by saying something so insulting. And is not what I meant. I was simple asking in your opinion who do you think is the second best country in the world for Muay Thai after Thailand?
@@TheNemesis442 Firstly, I was talking to the viral european. Secondly, the only one here who can’t read is you. I’m only responsible for what I write, not for what you understand. Thirdly, come insult me to my face.
Difference is there's no Thai fighters. There is loads of MMA fighters that incorporate Muay Thai. Thailand doesn't really know much about the UFC. Its quite a closed country with traditions...I'd like to see it though!
There’s so many Muay Thai based fighters in the UFC and almost all well rounded fighters in MMA have some sort of thai boxing as part of their game lol
I think that one thing a lot of people just cannot wrap their heads around is that the world does not revolve around the UFC. Not every combat sport needs to be like MMA. There are a lot of stand up only and grappling only combat sports out there. For example, college wrestling doesn't have boxing. Thai fighting doesn't have ground fighting.
@@meesert Most people that do those other combat sports where it's specifically ground or stand up game do it for the love of the sport. There are many other sports that have offshoots that don't make good money but people still do them because they love the game.
@@ivanafeelcool9143 That was me. I did full contact stand up fighting while I took Kenpo and Japanese Karate, and did not make one penny because it was amateur, and I just loved what I did.
I have said this for 20 years.I think takedowns,grappling and ground and pound are more like cavemen fighting. Nothing great about it just brutal overrated and stupid.some people think its great cause they cant do stand up fighting.Its all about technic and timing and if you can kick punch and block good in any form of martial arts you will have a big advantage over a grappler.
Training at a Muay Thai gym for close to a year now has taught me how sloppy a lot of MMA striking is. Some MMA guys are extremely skilled in the striking but a lot of them just completely lack the fundamentals
@@luisdawnfinder3188 muay thai doesn't have the best hands either. The thai boxing variant is more complete than just throwing singular power shots. Combinations are key
@@asto5767 Muay Thai has good hands. Maybe not on the level of pure boxers but still plenty good. As far as defending punches at least, Muay Thai is fantastic because the range is difficult for a boxer. Stay too far away and you get pieced up with kicks (you can keep them far as well with teeps). If the boxer gets too close you can clinch them, throw them around a bit and drill some knees into them. I agree combinations are key but it's also important how you start your combinations. A lot of MMA guys will lead their combos with looping overhands or start combos with low kicks or other dumb shit. It gets you countered with straight shots very quickly
@@strangeman9362 Not as well used, but that doesn't mean the striking system doesn't work. It's just a stylistically different type of fighting, but still quite effective
Pretty sure buakaw was offered to fight in the ufc years ago. He even went to train with tristar in canada but ultimately it came to nothing. Probably got homesick or had trouble getting to grips with grappling late in his career.
@@jackjones1249 Its not full of but there are some that manage to cheat the system but thats in every sport.I think the UFC is much cleaner than other promotions.
I’m glad he spoke well of Muay Thai, if a nak Muay wanted to transition they could change their stance for mma and see how they get on and a few have. I firmly believe certain gifted once in a generation individuals can pull of a Thai stance and win especially if they trained wrestling like they trained Thai since young. It’s all in the mind and not giving a damn about norm (my personal opinion) I’d always stay Thai though even in mma even if I lost every fight or it meant death, Thai is my fight allegiance - remember bangrajan?
Actual knife defence revolves a lot around grappling. Not in terms of takedowns or that, but rather doing the damndest to control the knife hand and prevent it from coming into play by pinning it down or preventing it from moving freely.
The stance doesn't work because they're not used to people going for takedowns. But, if they trained for takedowns, then they could easily get knees in there for defence and practice sprawling incorporating knees and elbows.
A Muay Thai fighter is like a pastry chef who can make better desserts than anyone but can't compete with other top chefs in cooking a whole course meal
I went to some local Muay Thai fights when I was over in Thailand. It was in a small hall with a ring in the middle. They fight at all age ranges during the. Ignition and these guys are all incredibly talented. They start with the young kids first and you could be forgiven for anticipating a “kids” fight but that’s not the case. They are all very good! The pre fight rituals are also great to watch.
What do you expect? Muay thai was originally derived from the way their soldiers fought in the old day. It's known that the most popular weapon for thai soldier was double sword. When each of your hands have to hold a sword, do you really still care about grappling?
indeed. like every martial art used in a WAR context, you just dont grapple. Silat is a good example : you hold a blade in one hand, the goal is to kill or incapacitate ennemies, you just cant try to go for a harmlock when you are on a battlefield, so you don't train this, simple as that
I’m not even a native English / American speaker and I understood every word. Weird how speech recognition seems to be such a fundamental difference from folk to folk.
i would disagree. i dont see them not getting drown in deep waters. most of the good ufc fighters have the ability to take shots, and then punish into deep deep waters whether its jj, sambo smashing whatever. you can take charles oliviera for a good example imo
I'm an expat Scouser that grew up in the US. It took my American wife decades to understand my family in the UK. She thought they weren't speaking English.
He Doesn’t make sense. mma stands for mixed martial arts to be at the top of the game you need to be well rounded Muay Thai plays a big part in mma it’s like saying a wrestler couldn’t make it in mma cause they just wrestle 😂
Name a fighter that uses a pure MT stance in MMA with no modifications and has achieved the highest levels of success. All the best kickboxers in MMA have heavily modified the stance, or use multiple stances and only adopt a pure MT stance infrequently in very specific situations. That's all he's saying. Obviously MT works well in mma the same way many other arts do - being heavily modified and used in conjunction with skills from other arts. Pure MT fighters from Thailand have to adapt their skills to do well in MMA at a high level, and culturally they have little reason to do so.
@@jimmyboimazarti1234 Leon doesn't use a pure MT stance. The Leon+Nate fight is up for free on youtube, watch it and watch Leon immediately enter a very standard MMA stance - mid guard, hips angled out to present a narrow target, weight balanced or even on his front foot - he's even using a wider base than is typical because he's not really afraid of leg kicks from Nate. Leon changes stances quite frequently and occasionally you'll see him enter a stance closer to pure MT, but he doesn't stay in it long and he's still usually spreading his base a bit.
Jose Aldo basically stands in a Thai stance, and he has some of the best takedown defense in history. Obviously, not all Thai fighters stand the same. Some stand literally with their feet a couple inches apart, just tapping the lead toe. But the standard stand is pretty much how Aldo stands.
He makes it work by having godly takedown defence first. That came from ages of BJJ training. It can work, but your grappling must be top notch in a way that life long strikers simply can't reach.
Yes culture has a lot to do with it. They already have their sport so what's the point. Also they don't have the means to train every combat, I would doubt that Thailand hasn't even handed out a hundred jiu jitsu blue belts. It doesn't cost any money to shadow box.
It's a huge sign of respect that Paddy was conducting this interview in Thai.
Good one!!
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Ok I lol'd 😂
Sheesh man i’m bilingual and i had a hard time understanding, your comment really sent me on a roller coaster like “or is he actually speaking thai?”
As a Thai, he's 100% correct.
The Thai Culture around Muay Thai is so different. It's not about the money, it's about the respect for the culture and honoring your family.
You can litterly go to Thailand and visit some of the top legends of Muay Thai, and they live normal lives. They still train every day, holding pads, walking in flipflops and meditating.
Respect Paddy for knowing this!
Watching Sylvie von Duuglas' RUclips channel brings this to light. There's a word they use ('Ruup') that refers to the kind of swagger and 'go with the flow' attitude I've seen from Thais.
Literally* (I'm an English tutor; don't kill me)
Dude, respect for that. If that was in Europe it would all be about the money.
@@fuzzmanx exactly.
And Thais train very lightly. It's never HARD, but more fun.
And in Muay Thai fights, often the first two rounds are slow and light, then it turns up
That’s beautiful
I wish UFC fighters have more honor. It becoming WWE clown show. It kind of a joke now. It is their business and it gets rating. I mean baseball and football do well and they don’t need be a complete clown show to get ratings. The UFC might get less views, but I feel like it is more of a real sport.
I've never tried so hard to understand my native language until hearing this dude speak
And now imagine those whose native language is not English. I had tough time understanding him.
Bro i thought i was retarded for a sec🤣🤣
I'm born and bred from Los Angeles and I understood every word. It's not that difficult is it?
@@chris.flores no, people in England always say this about scousers (people from Liverpool) because they sound so different from the rest of England. It’s just an English joke
@@malafakka8530 Is it weird that I find this easier to follow than more 'regular' American or English accents?
I’m Italian and it’s the 12th time I watch this video to understand what he’s saying.
I refuse to give up.
*He said, pineapple🍍 belongs on pizza* 🍕
@@MyselfStefanoAmen
Turn on cc
You have to use Google Translate. I believe he's from Albania.
Subtitles bro
ive been a guest at proper thai fights and i was blown away by watching thailands biggest mauy thai stars happily circulate through the crowds signing hundreds of autographs and posing for pics with fans in the audience. they were so down to earth and showed no signs of prima donna attitude etc, and not only that it was an all ages family friendly type atmosphere, from little kids to frail old ladys, it was not the expected crowd of bloodlusting maniacs i expected to be rubbing shoulders with lol.. the whole experience totally won me over and gave me enormous respect for the fighters who are national heros over there and for good reason as well.
Do they non stop bitch and moan about payment like UFC fighters do lol
Probably cause since the age of 6 when their ego got out of control someone was there to check em
I accidentally ended up in an alley somewhere in the outskirts of Bangkok because I heard some noise. Sounded like someone was getting their ass beat and people cheering so I had to investigate. After walking through the most quiet street you could imagine I rounded the corner to see a UFC quality like Muay Thai event with ring girls, guys flying around on cameras and a sick lineup with people from Cambodia to Canada. I didn't wanna pay crazy prices to see it, because i wasn't that interested at the time, so I asked the Thai dude how much it cost and he just laughed and pointed to a seat.
I'm so used to sports events being extremely overpriced after living in the US for a while, but the people there were literally there just for the joy of it. That's what a lot of US sports are lacking. The regular fan cannot afford tickets most of the time, so it doesn't feel real.
Anyways; I sat down and loved every second of it. The honor, the style of fighting and the atmosphere. I went to Chiang Mai afterwards to train Muay Thai and plan on doing the same in Phuket this winter. Just love the sport and the people, everything about it.
It's not often going into a dark alley after midnight really pays off, but for me it did:)
Everything is better in Thailand
I'm a big fan of Buakaw ,one of the most ferocious fighter's I've ever seen. Huge hero in Thailand and the most humble super star I have ever seen.
I visited a village of Thai fighters, kids from 6 years old to men in their 40s and 50s. I went to one of the fights, and these guys just beat the pulp out of one another. Their faces were not recognizable afterwards. However, once the matches were over, everyone was hugging and laughing, and I also learned, win or lose, they shared the money. Coming from the US, it was a strange experience.
Collectivism and selfless-ness of the Eastern culture as opposed to individuality and self-serving of Western culture.
were the matches organized?
@@CloseYourBrownEyes yes
A sense of community is nowhere to be found here like it is in foreign villages
What was the name of the village?
It's cool to see organizations like ONE, who convert a lot of stadium Thai fighters into Muay Thai. Makes you wonder if fighters like Rodtang will inspire the next generation to start training their wrestling/grappling earlier on 🤔
Yeah and they had Dejdamrong fight there as well in MMA. Unfortunately he lost but was a great fight
Wow, Shane in the comments, didn't expect that 😁
Love your channel!
I was thinking this same thing. Similar to the way UFC fighters have influenced younger generations to, for example, get involved in high school wrestling or BJJ to balance out karate, taekwondo, boxing, etc. at an earlier and earlier age here in the States.
That impossible for now and near future at very least. In Thailand, they are various small muaythai events for rookies to farm their experiences before they can level up. There is nothing like that for MMA. The more muaythai prospers in its motherland (as it should be), less and less kids are interested in any other martial art for professionalism.
The advent of ONE even further encourages Thai kids to go for muaythai.
The Mighty Mouse Rodtang fight was so interesting to watch. It showed a lot about Wrestling against Straight up Muay Thai.
My respect and thanks deeply go to the one who made the subtitles
I feel like Charles Oliveira incorporates a Thai stance into his game very well. He's so comfortable off of his back in guard that he doesn't care about the threat of being taken down. The stance affords him in that aggressive come forward style
ye man has godly ju jitsu
Hes on about actual thai fighters. Plenty of mma stars main weapon is mauy thai
So good watching him March forward
Great thing about MMA. You can mold your style to your strengths. Many different stances work. Oliveira, Thai stance. Rose, I'd say is a boxing stance. Early Conor, Karate. It's all about how it accents your strengths and covers your weaknesses. For the Thais, they don't have the level of wrestling and grappling to make that stance work like Oliveira does.
lol difference between incorporating it all in your fighting to using some form of it with other highly effective fighting styles. like he’s a killer with jujitsu
"Boxing stance doesn't werrche, muay thai stance doesn't werrche". - 🏴👱🏼
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Lmao
You mean werk(phlegm)kk
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Know warra mean
As non English speaker, I feel damn proud that I still understand him 😅
As a native English speaker, same.
@@XtopherMartin 🤣 non native english speaker here and it´s hard....probably get 10%
I actually turned on closed captioning and 10 seconds later realized he's speaking english.
He's speaking extremely clearly.
WHAT IS HE SAYING??
Muay Thai fighters are so humble and void of any ego yet are KILLERS IN THE RING!... very inspiring
Unfortunately the guard stance is a takedown invitation
Well, if you watch ONE FC you should have noticed by now that 99% of the time a Thai loses to a foreigner he will not even congratulate his opponent or pay the respect of waiting in the ring for the announcement, so how does this fit with your fantasy of Thai fighters?
I attended a Muay Thai match in Bangkok in 2007 and it was a very cool experience. What was most surprising, as the video hints to, is that there's almost more pageantry and ceremony than there is fighting. It's akin to Sumo in Japan. Very structured fights, but tons of traditional choreographed dances/movements to start things off.
Hookers?
@@onceagaindc
What happens in Thailand, stays in Thailand
2007 ain't 2022(2023)
@@anouaressanoussi Yes. Because I assume hundreds of years of tradition and ceremony have changed over the last 15 years.
omg i love sumo and muay thai but sumo wrestlers are way more reveared as some unachievable being and it seems like they focus a lot on social status and heirarchy
The greatest fight I ever saw was a Thai fight 33 years ago between two 16yr Olds. 4 rounds of brutal, spiteful, brilliant fighting. It looked like a fight to the death. When it was over there was pure respect for each other.
Glad your warp sense of entertainment enjoys brutality
Just look at Rodtang,one second he looks like he's gonna murder you, next he's on his knees bowing before you when the bell goes. Same as Buakaw. Ruthless like an ax murderer until the bell goes. It's cool to watch.
@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 Don't be foolish. There is a lot to be said for the effects of training in combat sports on the psychosocial development of a young person. In that respect, common sense, conventional wisdom, and the scientific literature all seem to agree that it's good in general.
@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 cry
@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 hoinestly, thats the best thing about watching sports. i think baseball, basketball, football, etc are stupid until there is a fight. at least with muay thai, they have other sorts entertainment while you wait for the fight.,
One championships 4oz Muay Thai .. is the most entertaining combat sport on the planet atm.. 🔥 🔥 🔥
One full beats UFC any day
@@jordanmaclean6410 it would be so cool to see the current weight class champions from ONE vs UFC :D
Agreed! Plus you can sense their emphasis on culture, humility and respect.
@@FromPoetryToRap a place where martial arts bring the world together as one!
None of this WWE trash talking negative shit the UFC encourages.
@@andulasis6283 broooo yesss! I would pay 2x the ppv to see this. The respect and rep of both companies would b on the line. Dana and chatri would be the most stressed men in the building and it would b epic to watch
As a grappler, I kinda don’t wanna initiate a single/double leg takedown on a Muay Thai boxer, for fear of eating a knee to the face.
Ive spent many months in Thailand and always wondered why there was never any fighters crossing over- Especially given how dedicated and talented many of them are. Makes a lot of sense! Those fights are still amazing to watch though. There are fights nearly every single night in different venues and my favorite were the ones in the countryside. It would be like $10-15 for RINGSIDE seats and $1-2 a beer. The atmosphere was LIT and the fights were real bangers. So much fun!!
i heard that they're physically ruined by their mid 20s from all that fighting. could also be a factor.
@@Thesandchief Yeah I'd imagine they certainly train & fight often enough for that to be a factor too!
Also modern MMA is a separate sport and you need to train it and not some other sport. Given how good video preps are now a days you can't have obius weaknesses. Just look at how Ben Askrin did, fastest knockout in history.
And don’t forget the intense smell of tiger balm haha
It’s brutal those elbows to the face you may as well be hitting someone in the face with a square iron rod or a heavy blunt knife. Moves like that for killing.
Myself and my maters were on hols at a bar in Koh Samui, Thailand years ago. There was a bouncer there who we all thought he was a bit wirey for a bouncer. Didnt look that intimidating. He was about the same height and physique as us. He just looked normal. Anyway later on in the night a drunken English guy was gettin aggro with other customers and also with the bouncer. The bouncer just stood there arms folded.....We were all watching to see what would happen. Eventually the drunkard went to push someone. Suddenly the bouncer, from no where & with the speed and agility of a cat, did a high kick to the guys chest and kicked him over some plants and right out the bar. Never seen anything like it. It was unreal how quick he was & how much power he got in to the kick........We made sure never to annoy a Thai bouncer after that.
Remember they do Muay Thai as part of school… I saw three English guys laughing at a Lady Boy… next thing there was nothing Lady about her and they got destroyed before licking their wounds and moving on… it was probably the funniest most disturbing fight I’ve ever witnessed 😂
@@josephedlin2172 😂😂😂 Thailand is one seriously crazy place
We made sure never to annoy any Thai bouncer after that🤣🤣🤣🤣
Just another trained fighter practising on some drunken arsehole , who woke up with a sore one saying wtf 🤣🤣🤣
I'd laugh if you said the bouncer arrived and got his ass kicked
A true honorable fighter that respects the honor and culture of the sport. I'm liking this kid more every time I hear him speak.
First time I saw him, oh gee another Connor big mouth. Nope. Not at all.
True honorable?¿ Do you remember what he said about Georgians?¿
Thank God for subtitle.
There’s plenty fighting in One Championship, and it’s class.
Mauy Thai in small gloves in One Championship is the best stand up fights in my opinion.
yes but in one its still muay thai rules. Its never muai thai vs wrestling or jiu jitsu
@@davidquinn147 read my comment again. I'm speaking about stand up fighting not mma .
You owe me a pint when I get back to work after my holiday Tom. Only joking.
Oh yes your right. Apologies for the misread. The standup in one is on another level for sure. Rodtang is a beast
I love paddy, it’s as if what he’s trying to say is you should Mix martial arts for MMA.
True genuis
Who the hell knows what he's trying to say. Needs to get the marbles out of his mouth.
@@lawsonransom8318 lol
I think he's on to something
Mixed combat sports*
A new hire of mine is a young guy from Thailand. He's only been in America a few months now, really loves muay thai. Tells me about it all the time, I've always been a huge fan of it so it's really interesting hearing it from someone who did it and knows much about it.
That’s really cool.
Does he have social media? Want to learn Muay Thai later in life so I’m hoping it’d be cool to go to him for any advice on it if needed ofc.
You're lucky. Would be a great way to get started in Muay Thai
Neither me nor the subtitles understood about 98% of what he was saying.
I moved to Thailand half a year ago, knowing nothing about the culture nor customs. But there was a muay thai gym right across the village, so I went there and started taking private classes for 4 months straight (still going almost daily). Comperatively to what I was used to paying for stuff in TH, It was rather expensive (250$/month), but at a 5 minute walking distance and 3-4 trainings per week from 8am; that still felt like a steal.
It wasn't until my trainer told me that he'd be traveling abroad to train fighters that I found out that he's a local champion and regional legend. He had a going-away party, and so many people came.. .And here I was, no-name me chilling with this guy every other day, private training and sparring before breakfast. Getting my ass handed, but always humbly so with laughs. Now training with another trainer who has been at it since he was 6.
The experience of training with these guys is one of the main reasons why I am enjoying my stay here so much. And they are so good, whenever I thought "I had it", they would just adjust their skill like turning the volume up a little, and I'd be feeling like I am back to the first day I walked into that gym. After a few weeks I would improve, and then they would turn the volume up a bit...I am not even sure where their limit is on that, because they are training people all day long, from the morning until the evening. And then also fighting tournaments.
Very lucky
that sounds like a steal...Awesome
Sounds like a great bunch of guys. Hard to find martial artists that thread that needle between crushing trainees or just clowning around with them. Respect.
looks like you've got yourself into a very.. VERY lucky situation to be able to train with such fighters
When it always feels like going back to square one, that means we’re on the right track 👍
I always use my run away stance.
Never fails
U must be a white Caucasian male
I'm undefeated in the runaway stance
lame joke
'HEHEHE IM SUCH A PUSSY GUYS!!! LOL!!!'
Israel adesanya is that you?
@@Dementia.Pugilistica in sparring you chase people down all day whilst getting jabbed on the nose consistently don't you
Thank God for closed captions.
And your stupidity
It’s AI generated
It's a relief to see native speakers confused in the comments, cause English is my second language and after ten seconds of Paddy talking I was crying internally going "Man I didn't think I was THIS shit"
I was born in Trat Thailand. Went to a muay thai training camp at age 11. Got kicked on the shins and left. Best decision I've ever made
Why?
Lmao
Been to Trat. Saw a muay tai fight in BK where this guy got his shin battered and it came up with a huge scary haematoma. I dont blame your decision to walk away!
In my experience, the Thais love all combat sports its just that Muay Thai is their own brand. You do see Thais doing well in boxing but because it's at the lighter divisions they don't make the headlines. Why switch to a different sport when you have already made your name domestically? The rewards in boxing are much higher than UFC so that is the logical switch if you want global recognition.
Mma is so harsh on the body idk how the guys years later seem to be ok and not more damage or hooked bad on pain meds
@@ArmonAdibi 💉
Only thing i understood clearly was the title. Everything else i had to turn off my AC, my ceiling fan, asked everyone outside to be quiet for about 2 minutes, hid in the quietest closet of my house, took ritalin to retain information and made sure to focus like ive never focused before so i can finally understand what was being said....Then i realized the closed captions pretty much did the trick
Yes, with a little practice, you will be able to understand English as it is spoken by the English natives who brought the language to the world.
When you hear how English is properly spoken by the natives in their own dialect, you begin to understand why English is spoken the way it is instead of how Americans mispronounce all the words, or I should say, with a different dialect.
Eggxactly
@@robertchiarizia9463 Paddy's regional accent is probably not the same way English was spoken when some English colonists came to America. Just because Paddy is from the UK does not mean his regional accent from 2020 is the original way English was spoken.
One dumbass joke now turning into a real discussion about dialects. Wow.
@@-whackd it IS actually how it is originally spoken. Have you been to Britain yet? In some places American, it is still spoken similar to the English who came to America. The Eastern shore of Maryland has one island where it sounds like Paddy. American English mostly sounds like immigrants speaking a second language pronunciation. Say schedule…an American says it the Dutch way.
Theatre, colour, all these are pronounced properly in Britain. The American version leaves out the subtleties in the language, so it doesn’t sound like it is spelled. In Britain they pronounce it how it is spelled.
Thank god for RUclips subtitles.
Absolutely spot on... and I love Muay Thai with a passion... but pure MT or a MT based stance in MMA can be risky... you Absolutely have to melt them together... and the culture is definitely a factor. The Thais are a proud strong people for sure! Love their art and culture!!!
Pure anything in MMA is risky.
@@zacharyradford5552 everyone just regurgitating the obvious
not spot on if someone drops low for a take down they would get kicked done muay thai for a few years KICKboxing also just would have to lean and drop on top the legs are very conditioned
There’s no ground game in Muay Thai because in the real battlefield in the past. If you fall to the ground you die. You got stab, got stomp. And in real life if you fall, you got jump by several enemy. Cuz there’s no one on one fight here. If you piss someone, they always come back in group. So you gotta be on your feet to survive.
Also, Thai people think it’s not honorable to fight on the ground. It’s a culture thing.
But things started to change. Muay Thai fighter start learning MMA more each day.
Cyril Gane : Am I Joke to u ??
went to Thailand on vacation 14 years ago and i dragged my family to the Lumpinee stadium, they really didn't feel like it but i did not take no for an answer
and there i saw the greatest fight i've ever seen (and i've seen a lot tbh, i'm a big fan of combat sports)
it was the main fight between two young undefeated fighters of around 18 years old and these guys were unbelievably talented and their determination was crazy
the skills on display were ridiculous and it was incredibly high paced from start to finish, really not your average Muay Thai fight
you really got the sense these guys were fighting for the pride of their family, somehow their fight seemed to convey that emotion
it's like we witnessed 2 ancient warriors fighting for their families and we just happened to be lucky enough to see them
honestly i felt unworthy of watching a fight this great, words cannot do it justice
after the fight my family could not stop talking about it, they were in complete awe of what they had just seen (i was in complete awe as well, but i tried to be cool about it lol)
and still, whenever we talk about our vacation to Thailand that fight is the first thing that comes up
thanks for sharing
in germany we say geschichten aus dem paulaner garten
@@affemitwaffen stories from the pope's garden? what does that mean
@@zinowor hahaha there is a beer brand named paulaner, so in this case its refering to a "beer garden" (not sure if thats a word, but a place where you drink beer basically) so stories out of there are usually not true/over-exaggerated
That's the difference between fighting with a purpose and fighting with a paycheck. A lot of times UFC is about fighting for a paycheck, but I understand entirely what you're talking aobut with what you witnessed. Very rarely do we ever see that kind of determination or 闘志 from Westerners -- it's a very different feeling, and makes you appreciate the art and skill that they possess to exhibit their talents in the way that they do.
Love this guy's accent. His understanding of the sport and the culture is another plus. Look forward to his fights always.
Valentina Shevchenko would be a good example of a muay thai/kick boxing fighter (17 time world champion, and competed in that sport professionaly since the age of 14) before she came to the UFC. She's a 3rd degree black belt in Taekwondo, started at the age of 5, a black belt in Judo, and master of sport in Sambo. She's incorporated all these and others in her MMA style, which is almost unbeatable! So far!
She's amazing but in a very talentless division.
@@fvgc454ss Bantomweight division is the talentless one, except for the top 5 or so who is there? There's lots of talent in Flyweight now moving there way up, soon to be more stacked than Straweight!
Thai fighters would do remarkably well in MMA if they trained ground. Their striking, clinch work and conditioning is unrivaled
Unrivaled? Never heard of dutch style kickboxing .....
Even in the golden era of Dutch kickboxers the Thais beat the Dutch 9 times out of 10. Nowadays the French are better than the Dutch fighters and so are even the English. Thai boxers are unrivalled completely.
@@MoMo-ck7nc just my personal opinion, having lived and trained in Thailand for 3 years
@@MoMo-ck7nc Not even close.
@@MoMo-ck7nc name me one Dutch kick-boxer who’s better than petchboonchu in the clinch
My favorite Mauy Thai fighters came mostly from K1, meaning Buakaw and Yodsanklai. But it opened my eyes up to Saenchai who is the Anderson Silva of their sport
Buakaw are strong but in MMA he is a dead man TAKEDOWN and LOCK!
@@juliannakaberovsky4545 You could say the same for UFC guys competing in Muay Thai. They don't have a chance at Muay Thai rules. That's why people like Anderson Silva come to Thailand for, because they want to be better strikers.
@@juliannakaberovsky4545 🤦
MMA ARE MODERN CLOWNS ACTING TOUGH AND ROUGH BUT THEY ARE NOTHING.....ASIAN FIGHTERS ARE HUMBLE BUT DANGEROUS. DONT CHOOSE MONEY AND FAME LIKE WESTERNS CLOWNS....
@@chirovandenbos2339 what do you mean by "MMA ARE MODERN CLOWNS" 🤣
I legit had to get subtitles for paddy.
I've attended muay thai fights in Thailand a few times. Last time, I remember a fight between two early teens, one took an elbow to the skull (loud thud sound), and was carted off. Insane stuff.
Just to clear up what he's saying. Muay Thai absolutely does work in MMA and the UFC since it's been proven BUT the stance itself (elbows up, 1 knee up as a defence with all your balance on 1 leg) invites the take down, since your balance leg is your single point of failure. The art itself is very effective and destructive, just the stance needs to be worked into an MMA format for it to be effective.
Most consider Muay Thai along with Jiu Jitsu the core of MMA (strong striking with strong grappling and submissions). Ofc this is not the rule but most find this to make you a well rounded fighter, you can branch off into other areas to fill in the gaps of your martial arts.
Well said bro I understand what you’re saying. Oss
Agreed! Look at Jon Jones, Muai Thai, and Jiu Jitsu
@@sdmdrums9275 jones is a wrestling guy
I feel like Muay Thai and wrestling work better together, especially Greco Roman. The clinch carries over to all types of wrestling very well (especially Greco Roman though), and you basically know how to handfight for a good position in the Muay Thai clinch, so you learn throws, takedowns, defenses, and there is a little difference in the clinch, but it is mostly positioning, so Muay Thai helps you a lot with wrestling (except the traditional Muay Thai stance doesn’t work well with wrestling, but it isn’t hard to modify it.
@@JustFun-fe7ux true, i was just agreeing with his point
The stance thing is spot on, I was a boxer and some MMA guys and to be fair Thai guys used to come to our gym to brush up on boxing and spar boxers. Whilst the guys were often tough and had good hands the squared up stance made them so easy to hit (creates a much bigger target than the more side on) and also other than a few 'freaks' badly reduced their power, as often compared to a boxer they were 'arm punchers'. This is why Conor was considered a puncher in MMA but Floyd said he had no real power in boxing terms. Let me get this clear, no disrespect to MMA as in a cage a decent MMA guy would take me down and choke me out quick (unless I could land something big first) and a decent Thai fighter would wreck my damn legs 🤣
You will find that with most kickboxers that they are not that good with their hands but you will find the same holds true for Boxers that do play with Kickboxing.
Cinir was a decent amateur boxer ling before he started mma but that fight was fixed
Bro any fighter at all would kill you immediately. You're a nobody lmao
The Muay Thai stance you're referring to sounds like Dutch Kickboxing which is basically boxing mixed with Kyokushin Karate: some gyms wrongly call it Muay Thai because people like Ramon Dekkers and Rob Kaman travelled to Thailand to beat the Thais at their own game. Dekkers, Kaman, Bas Rutten, Peter Aerts and Alistair Overeem use it. If you want to see true Muay Thai in the UFC then that'd have to be Mauricio 'Shogun' Rua who is an absolute savage in MMA
@@ronki23 interesting, didn't know that and assume all those Dutch guys were Thai practitioners. Surely the traditional Thai style is still waay more squared up than a boxing stance though, just for the ability to throw a kick particular from tye back leg?
It’s nearly impossible to understand Paddy. I’m amazed that we’re even speaking the same language.
Funny, I’m a Kiwi that spent a few years working all over the UK and I can understand him just fine. Only worked in Liverpool once, in Toxteth on a fortnight long install and for a laugh, I put on a Scouse accent while I was there. On my last day I just spoke with my normal NZ accent and they all went "Fookin hell dere lah, you do a fookin bustin Aussie accent"….
@ That’s actually hilarious. We live in the Midwest US, near St. Louis but in Illinois. We were in Mexico and I talked to a guy from Ireland that was very difficult to understand. There are soooo many accents in the US. Some of those Deep South ones are tough, Cajun (Louisiana) in particular. ✌️😎
@@alanratay4583 No offence but even before you said this I was going to say that my guess is that the native English speakers who can't understand him are either American or from London. I'm Irish and understand him fine. I think people who are used to being around regional accents find it easier to understand other regional accents. Aside from Cajun and some Appalachian regions, American accents tend to be quite generic in terms of dialect. Very clear and defined. Whereas on this side of the Atlantic the accents are much more diverse and thick.
@ I worked for a utility company for 34 years. There was a safety supervisor from Virginia on a job once. He was next to impossible to understand. New York and (believe it or not) Rhode Island have extremely thick accents. You can understand them, but they’re very harsh people. People up north like Minnesota or Wisconsin have accents, but you can understand what they’re saying. Chicago people are harsh as well. They will physically fight at the drop of a hat. P.S. You didn’t offend me. I take everything with a grain of salt. ✌️😜
@@alanratay4583 I know a girl from Wisconsin. I notice a slight twang that makes her sound a little bit Canadian. Although I don't know if you'd hear it that way. You being from Illinois you might hear a Wisconsin accent different to how I hear it. But sure I can often pick up on different accents from different US states. But here it's more like different accents for every county or town. Sometimes I might struggle a bit with an American accent or dialect like a thick Cajun or Appalachian or African American (if it's spoken particular fast), but over here I'll sometimes struggle with an accent that's from the next county. One time I struggled with an accent that was from the county I'm living in. It was an Irish Traveller accent, so think Brad Pitt from Snatch.
I will say ONE FC is starting to push some boundaries, the DJ vs Rodtang mixed rules bout was sick even if not official, but it shows that Muay Thai fighters are starting to take MMA a bit more seriously, there's a few fighters at ONE that have made the transition already and are doing pretty well.
The Rodtang vs Mighty Mouse fight about a month ago on One Championship was a good example of how Thai fighting doesn’t really work in mma. If you haven’t watched it it’s worth a watch.
it would work its has been done many times and so much more there is more than one stand u dont have a damn clue what ur talking about so plz dont try
That match is an example of a pure Muay Thai fighter vs a well-rounded MMA fighter. In that case, Thai fighting will not work as Rodtang's style can be countered by the different weapons that Demetrious have. Of course, Rodtang did try to switch his style using karate techniques but his ground game is absolutely zero.
Now if you're talking about an MMA fighter with Muay Thai as his main weapon... Then it would tell a different story. Same goes to an MMA fighter with Karate as main or even Jiu jutsu as main.
My point here is fighters who do not adapt different styles in their game would definitely lose. Thai fighting CAN WORK! Only if the style is incorporated with other styles too!
@@jonathanjuliman5628 I think people forget the the main point of mma is that its mixed and not pure. If you are a pure whatever stick to that type of fighting because by fighting other rules you just handicap yourself unless you adapt.
The first round Mighty Mouse was having trouble but the second round Rodtang stood no chance. He had no ground game and no defense against Demetrius.
It does work and is the base for a lot of mma striking. Like everything else though it needed some changes to suit mma that made it a bit less recognizable but if you know what to look for you'll see muay thai techniques all over mma fights
“You don’t fuck with the Thais”
I did a 2 month Muy Thai training camp at Sor Vorapin 2 in 2013z
They can generate insane power, I learnt a lot and the experience changed me.
I tried man, I really tried to keep up.
Ppl think he's arrogant because of how he acts during his fights but he's such a nice respectful person so respectful to other people and other cultures
He's right about the stance. It also squares a fighter up and makes the susceptible to straight punches
In a boxing only setting yes but when you can throw all parts of the body the Muay Thai stance is king. Only reason it doesnt work for mma is because of takedowns. “Tell me you’ve never fought Muay Thai without telling me you’ve ever fought Muay Thai.” Is what your comment is lmao stick to whatever it is you do bevsuse you don’t know jack fucking shit about fighting clearly.
He is absolutely correct. Those stances don’t work in UFC. A boxer especially has to modify his stance or he’s getting a takedown in round one straight away. But to be fair, actual combat allows a lot of defenses for these kinds of fighters against a grappler/shooter/BJJ guy that neutralize the shoot.
I always thought boxers just get their legs kicked from out of them
@@AntonAdelson they have to adapt their stance to more of a Kung Fu stance instead of jab hand foot forward stance. From there they can throw leg blocks on the kicks or shuffle. Typically circle to the kickboxer’s weaker side and get up inside the kickboxers reach, use uppercuts and hooks, elbows and knees in MMA. Boxing is still powerful and effective but requires the MMA stance mod to work effectively. One reason you always see Conor sticking his jab hand out. This is a kickboxer type of adaptation of boxing for range and other MMA type moves, counters.
Kickboxers have the palms of the hands open towards the opponent where traditional boxers are closed fisted. Open palms allows for a lot of options offensively and defensively over closed fists. I wouldn’t be surprised if Tyson adapts to this style when he gets in the Octagon.
'actual combat' im sorry do you mean like, the boxer can just pull out his gun?
@@newerest1 lol, if that is what he wants to use for combat, sure, if he has it on him. Mouthy people in public usually have a concealed weapon, one reason they are so mouthy.
@@newerest1 a real man fights with his fists though. Then you both can have a beer afterwards and Pat each other on the back. But yeah, in today’s world, I suppose you have to assume you are in mortal combat and have to go nuclear on your challenger immediately.
So happy for closed captioning
my respect is growing for this young man's skills and character... wasnt super impressed with his striking from a couple CWs I saw and of course he was almost KOd in his first UFC ... but he must be a seriously hard worker because he's gotten so much better so quickly... AND he seems to be a nice dude so he's no longer giving me the Malcom McDowell Clockwork Orange freaky vibe that he used too...
Yeah exactly, clipped by a nobody; when he meets a top 10 striker in the divison he is gonna struggle to last even one round without getting pieced up. There is levels to this game, this chump can't even understand the basic importance of not letting your weight balloon in between fights. Guy is a media whore clown.
Koooo
A nice dude? He got his Twitter account banned for hate speech and was accused of racism and anti Muslim sentiment multiple times. Look up what he said about Khabib. He's a fool
@@shah5524 That's called common sense lol
@@shah5524 His twitter got taken down because they only just realised he was ban evading from ages ago and his insta got banned earlier this year because he called someone a fat cunt.
What did he say about Khabib? He's the karen of MMA? Who tf actually cares?
there's been some thai guys crossing over into mma in recent years (particularly in one championship where they have muay thai, kickboxing & mma together) but yeah you can't just go in and fight like that, some adaptation is needed to incorporate grappling, ground game etc and like paddy says the stance is vulnerable to shooting. that said though, muay thai is all over mma but it's specific techniques rather than an all-round fighting style. you can totally see ppl like anderson trained muay thai cos of the wing knees in the clinch (also it's the muay thai grip round the neck), flying knees etc, and the teep (push-kick) is pretty ubiquitous in mma now as well. also muay thai leg-kicks & elbows are some of the best around
Muaythai is for Muaythai sport which is reduction of Muaythai Boran. Muaythai Boran has throwing locking and breaking technique with stance similar to MMA
He's right. Muy Thai stance does invite takedowns. However, I've been watcing MMA for a couple decades now and I will say this- I have noticed that the fighters that do extremely well are the ones that start with a Muy Thai background at an early age and then immerse themselves in a lot of grappling for a number of years, such as wrestling or sambo or BJJ. That's a very good skill set- Muy Thai plus any of those grappling styles. But that type of fighter would still have to change up his stance a bit in order to avoid takedowns and leg kicks. He would have to make his stance a bit more compact and avoid a very wide base. It's all about adapting. The best fighters are the ones who can adapt.
The goats always come from a wrestling background
I been around from the start as well and you are at least half wrong lol. Not all fighters who do extremely well start with Muay Thai. Maybe not even most. From Randy Couture to Khabib. Some of the best to ever do it never even thought about Muay Thai. An to be honest most MMA guys who trained Muay Thai were really training Dutch but thought it was Muay Thai. Anderson Silva and Aldo both did this.
Valentina shevchenko.....
Muay thai stance helps facilitate checking leg kicks quite properly tho…
I’ve been watching UFC since 2009 I was 13 years old back then. I was into boxing first being from England, I like what you said. Would you agree that nobody uses a Muay Thai clinch anymore like Anderson or Wanderlei used to, and that if used now it could be a secret / hidden weapon type thing? And also how does Thai stance vary to Kickboxing stance for MMA you reckon?
One thing I love about muay Thai is you can go there and train with Saenchai and it won't cost you a leg. Very down to earth humble legends.
I would argue that there are different kinds of muay thai stances depending on the gym and style, that actually works in MMA. You see quite a few top Thais fighting in ONE under MMA rules lately, and some like Stamp Fairtex has been doing really good. Nice strong stance that is wider and lower than the stereotypical muay thai stance, powerful punches, kicks, and good takedown defence that leads to elbows on the opponents' back of the head.
Elbow to the back of the head is illegal in the UFC.
@@Juan800PimpBot good thing he's not talking about the UFC
The only one MMA fighter that successful made the crossover to ONE Muay Tai is:MM Demitrious Johnson! Dana tried to screw him and he was the GOAT!
I love Stamp but using woman’s mma to prove something works is pointless. They are still years behind where the men are. Also One isn’t all world beaters there. One, like Pride, is very careful with how many and what wrestlers they bring in. They are entertainment first and they are not loading the roster with wrestlers. At least not the best of the best. So you can strikers in the mix that wouldn’t make it in a wrestling heavy promotion. Given wrestling has been the most dominant you can’t really say they are going for the best fighters. This allows many of the countries with poor wrestling infrastructure to compete which is most of your Asian countries which have stronger striking cultures.
@@dperry203 They definitely do try to not let it become too much like UFC, and I agree with that move, they’re making themselves unique. More striking oriented but still has the grappling/wrestling element. That’s what draws a lot of UFC fans to them who likes to see both but don’t want to see a match with 80% of it being on the ground. Introducing Mighty Mouse into their roster was a good move too.
0:43 tbf I wouldn’t want to face a TIE fighter in the ring
Dude sounds like a Warlock invoking Spells that do dmg over time.
Great grandma came over from Ireland, full blooded Murphy. Took me a bit to catch on to him, but I can understand now.
That's why Muay Thai is the best fight Sport in my opinion. It's not about the shit talk, it's not about all the drama, just pure skill and respect.
I teach karate myself. But Muay Thai I need to add into our curriculum. I own a dojo. The strikes just totally make sense. Karate has great footwork and timing. But I feel like karate needs that mix to work. It needs that harshness that Thai has. The reality of getting punched in the face.
@@Lorenzo-Sandoval-Fine-Art Bro.
He's actually speaking Thai. Amazing
Muay Thai is a standing sport, i think that comes with a certain amount of honour. Once your opponent falls or is swept you stop and allow them to get up.
Paddy is a class act. Humble and good natured. I'm going to enjoy watching you become a champion, you deserve it. Also, I'm very sorry about the loss of your friend.
lol....Paddy 'the baddy'....humble.....you're a crack up!
@@TheNemesis442 Thanks!
I practice My Tie i almost strangled myself and still can't get the loop neck twist the thumb tuck inside chin up move.
It's a proper skill kid i tell yah.
Trust me man, you’ll get it. It’s hard to keep confidence when you miss that thumb tuck but once it clicks you’ll be doing it with your eyes closed.
Wtf is my tie 😂
Stick on bow tie mate
I practice mai Thai 🥃
@@rickydenyer49 no one knows what your tie is
I imagine you would have adapt your styles to match MMA. So, you could never be a purest at anything and would have to mesh your styles together to be affective. There have many great fighters with a strong Muay Thai base. Anderson Silvia, Carlos Condit, and shogun Rua we're some of my favorites.
The hint is in the first M of MMA.
The Chute Boxe gym was mainly a Muay Thai gym in the 90s-00s.
And Edson Barboza!!!
Don't forget Jose Aldo, who adapted MT skills for mma very well
Your writing is a disgrace.
Very are so lucky for subtitles
As a native English speaker, I love that there are other native English speakers who I can't really understand without subtitles.
wtf? english is my third language and i can easily understand paddy
He sounds like English mixed with Dutch
@@jonan2199 well dutch is my first language and i dont think so at all :P. Sounds like gaelic or welsh.
Also most of them retire around age 22-25, lol. I got sponsored by a gym in Thailand and fought there for a couple of years. I wish we could throw some of those kids into MMA training and see what happens, because they are unbelievable. When you see an 8 year old running 8km and then training for 2 hours, it's hard to compare that to our kids in the west
and yet we have western fighters that are doing pretty well over there. not the top... yet... but pretty high up
Yes because technically they are more complete. A westerner knows how to wrestle. You don’t need to be a triathlete to take down someone.
It’s hard to compare? It’s pretty easy to compare. Other sports are popular in the west. I’ve played football at a high level in the Netherlands, and when I was 8, I trained 3 hours a day. Just like every other kid in the same team or competition. If our culture was more focused on fighting, it wouldn’t be much different from Thai kids.
@@ct0332 I would be careful about comparing football training to fight training. Especially in kids. Those kids fight full Thai rules full contact, elbows, knees, no pads from like 6 years old.
Their training is so much more brutal and unforgiving than you can probably comprehend unless you've been there and seen it for yourself. Western kids would be crying for mummy or just quit.
I am 100% sure that the vasy majority (like 99%) of our western kids aren't capable of their training regime because they're used to lives of comfort and relative luxury
@@manfrombritain6816 I would argue it's a tiny proportion of western fighters doing well in top Thai stadiums.
Look at the Top Thai stadiums like rajadamnern. There are thousands of western Thai boxers in Thailand, yet literally only a handful of westerners make it to rajadamnern. 99% of them get slaughtered in the mid ranks.
I did kickboxing for over 4 year's then later in life did Mauy Thai for around 6 months, but had to stop as it was destroying my knees. I was getting older. My mate was a boxer and he struggled because of a boxer's stance is different from kickboxing and he'd get kicked regularly, but he had fast hands and good punch, but still he couldn't get on with being more upright.
How old were you?
@@CtrlAltDel_7 I'm 57 .
Turn your standing leg with the kick if you don't it will destroy your knee
Something similar myself. Went about 2 yrs with Thai training. Feet were messed up. Couldn’t stop some parts from bleeding. And bags. Went through bags like crazy. I went to a local gym and hit their heaviest bag. When I slapped the bag against the ceiling tiles, couldn’t hit their stuff anymore. It’s an awesome art. The consistency of kicking becomes real power eventually.
@@CtrlAltDel_7 I was about 26.
British Muay Thai is some of the best in the world & the reason Paddy has this knowledge & outlook is because where he is from, his trainers would have had to travel to Thailand a lot in the early days to get the real training in. This is why britain is well known for its Muay Thai.
The same goes for my area of the Uk, my coaches & the majority of the other coaches in the surrounding counties were the ones travelling to the source in the 80’s & 90’s. That’s why the knowledge & respect is there.
The Viral European, I agree with what you said but outside of Thailand who do you think is the second best country in the world for Muay Thai?
@@shaneashby5890 so, do you mean aside from thailand which country is the best and then which country is 2nd best? so, which country is 3rd best including thailand?? your question is very poorly worded.
@@TheNemesis442 Thailand is undeniably number one, it’s their sport. I would never insult Thai people by saying something so insulting. And is not what I meant. I was simple asking in your opinion who do you think is the second best country in the world for Muay Thai after Thailand?
@@shaneashby5890 that doesn't answer my question, learn to read.
@@TheNemesis442 Firstly, I was talking to the viral european. Secondly, the only one here who can’t read is you. I’m only responsible for what I write, not for what you understand. Thirdly, come insult me to my face.
Oh... Thank God here is subtitles
Difference is there's no Thai fighters. There is loads of MMA fighters that incorporate Muay Thai. Thailand doesn't really know much about the UFC. Its quite a closed country with traditions...I'd like to see it though!
Mma isn’t ufc
@@Notoriousjunior374 Talking about the sport MMA generally. And UFC is obviously one of the promotions of MMA.
@@mrj8856 This is wrong tho. ONE Championship is big in asia and they have both Muay Thai and MMA and you can see thai fighters doing MMA.
1FC has big time muay thai fighters fight also in mma in addition to MT bouts with 4 ounce gloves
There’s so many Muay Thai based fighters in the UFC and almost all well rounded fighters in MMA have some sort of thai boxing as part of their game lol
I think their talking about actual Thai fighters who do Muay Thai, not people trained in Muay Thai but yeah there still is Thai fighters just not many
Trying to understand this interview is the most exhausting 1 minute and 30 second of my life
I think that one thing a lot of people just cannot wrap their heads around is that the world does not revolve around the UFC. Not every combat sport needs to be like MMA. There are a lot of stand up only and grappling only combat sports out there. For example, college wrestling doesn't have boxing. Thai fighting doesn't have ground fighting.
Sure but if you wanne make big money you have to do mma or boxing. All other combat sports barely make you a living.
@@meesert Most people that do those other combat sports where it's specifically ground or stand up game do it for the love of the sport. There are many other sports that have offshoots that don't make good money but people still do them because they love the game.
They usually go to ONE FC.
@@ivanafeelcool9143 That was me. I did full contact stand up fighting while I took Kenpo and Japanese Karate, and did not make one penny because it was amateur, and I just loved what I did.
I have said this for 20 years.I think takedowns,grappling and ground and pound are more like cavemen fighting. Nothing great about it just brutal overrated and stupid.some people think its great cause they cant do stand up fighting.Its all about technic and timing and if you can kick punch and block good in any form of martial arts you will have a big advantage over a grappler.
Ever since I started Muay Thai I never looked at mma the same...true statement.
Training at a Muay Thai gym for close to a year now has taught me how sloppy a lot of MMA striking is. Some MMA guys are extremely skilled in the striking but a lot of them just completely lack the fundamentals
@@luisdawnfinder3188 muay thai doesn't have the best hands either. The thai boxing variant is more complete than just throwing singular power shots. Combinations are key
@@asto5767 Muay Thai has good hands. Maybe not on the level of pure boxers but still plenty good. As far as defending punches at least, Muay Thai is fantastic because the range is difficult for a boxer. Stay too far away and you get pieced up with kicks (you can keep them far as well with teeps). If the boxer gets too close you can clinch them, throw them around a bit and drill some knees into them. I agree combinations are key but it's also important how you start your combinations. A lot of MMA guys will lead their combos with looping overhands or start combos with low kicks or other dumb shit. It gets you countered with straight shots very quickly
@@luisdawnfinder3188 Muay Thai hands are notoriously bad compare to kickboxing and boxing and karate
@@strangeman9362 Not as well used, but that doesn't mean the striking system doesn't work. It's just a stylistically different type of fighting, but still quite effective
Pretty sure buakaw was offered to fight in the ufc years ago. He even went to train with tristar in canada but ultimately it came to nothing. Probably got homesick or had trouble getting to grips with grappling late in his career.
He is in Thailand being a national hero still, probably made the right choice
Also doubt he would pass the drug tests
@@mattbrimsted5310 UFC is full of fighters on peds.
He pretty much threatened to do MMA to get out of the contract with his previous gym.
@@jackjones1249 Its not full of but there are some that manage to cheat the system but thats in every sport.I think the UFC is much cleaner than other promotions.
When will the English version of the interview be released?
Paddy you are such a down to earth lad. Big fan here. Keep rocking bro!
I’m glad he spoke well of Muay Thai, if a nak Muay wanted to transition they could change their stance for mma and see how they get on and a few have. I firmly believe certain gifted once in a generation individuals can pull of a Thai stance and win especially if they trained wrestling like they trained Thai since young. It’s all in the mind and not giving a damn about norm (my personal opinion) I’d always stay Thai though even in mma even if I lost every fight or it meant death, Thai is my fight allegiance - remember bangrajan?
In real street fight I would never go straight for a take down.. that would leave you exposed to a knife attack
I mean yeah striking is best for street but i wouldnt fight a guy with a knife either even if im striker
@@romachenko7558 lol true..
In a street fight a take down would be used to smash them on the floor, get up and stamp on their head whilst holding their arm.
Actual knife defence revolves a lot around grappling. Not in terms of takedowns or that, but rather doing the damndest to control the knife hand and prevent it from coming into play by pinning it down or preventing it from moving freely.
The stance doesn't work because they're not used to people going for takedowns.
But, if they trained for takedowns, then they could easily get knees in there for defence and practice sprawling incorporating knees and elbows.
Paddy knows his stuff…
I feel like I'm in a parallel universe where John Lennon became an MMA fighter. First time hearing this fella speak.
first time?? all he does is fucking talk
John Lennon was only good at beating up women.
Anderson Silva had a Muay Thai style that was adjusted to be good for vale tudo.
Anderson jumped around with his hands low and threw unorthodox strikes, nothing like muay thai
@@stillwatercamargo9606 Anderson’s striking foundation was Muay Thai and anyone who doesn’t know this is a supreme casual
@@digbick8349 Bro.
He sums it all up in the last 10 seconds, amazing insight.
Thank goodness for closed captioning
A Muay Thai fighter is like a pastry chef who can make better desserts than anyone but can't compete with other top chefs in cooking a whole course meal
Just fight without rules they will use elbow knees to crack your skull
I just realized he speak english
I went to some local Muay Thai fights when I was over in Thailand. It was in a small hall with a ring in the middle. They fight at all age ranges during the. Ignition and these guys are all incredibly talented. They start with the young kids first and you could be forgiven for anticipating a “kids” fight but that’s not the case. They are all very good! The pre fight rituals are also great to watch.
Plenty of Tie Fighters in the empire.
Can someone translate this interview into English?
it is english its just their accent 😭
Bro?
What do you expect? Muay thai was originally derived from the way their soldiers fought in the old day. It's known that the most popular weapon for thai soldier was double sword. When each of your hands have to hold a sword, do you really still care about grappling?
indeed. like every martial art used in a WAR context, you just dont grapple. Silat is a good example : you hold a blade in one hand, the goal is to kill or incapacitate ennemies, you just cant try to go for a harmlock when you are on a battlefield, so you don't train this, simple as that
I’m not even a native English / American speaker and I understood every word. Weird how speech recognition seems to be such a fundamental difference from folk to folk.
Muay Thai fighters would clean up if they craft their ground game no doubt with their great cardio
They would literally break everyone with leg kicks too
@@toomuch9762 too bad they're all under 6 foot
@@jayduncan8153 which means what? Most fighters are under 6 ft
i would disagree. i dont see them not getting drown in deep waters. most of the good ufc fighters have the ability to take shots, and then punish into deep deep waters whether its jj, sambo smashing whatever. you can take charles oliviera for a good example imo
@@enesgokhan take shots from who?
I'm an expat Scouser that grew up in the US. It took my American wife decades to understand my family in the UK. She thought they weren't speaking English.
Boxing doesn’t work. I don’t see how he’s saying MT stance doesn’t work. Most fighters in mma are relatively square with their opponent
He Doesn’t make sense. mma stands for mixed martial arts to be at the top of the game you need to be well rounded Muay Thai plays a big part in mma it’s like saying a wrestler couldn’t make it in mma cause they just wrestle 😂
Lol no they’re not , they’re bladed
Name a fighter that uses a pure MT stance in MMA with no modifications and has achieved the highest levels of success. All the best kickboxers in MMA have heavily modified the stance, or use multiple stances and only adopt a pure MT stance infrequently in very specific situations. That's all he's saying. Obviously MT works well in mma the same way many other arts do - being heavily modified and used in conjunction with skills from other arts. Pure MT fighters from Thailand have to adapt their skills to do well in MMA at a high level, and culturally they have little reason to do so.
@@comradeshmoo bro obviously your not in involved in mma loads of people use mt stance ? Leon Edward’s main trainer is a mt coach
@@jimmyboimazarti1234 Leon doesn't use a pure MT stance. The Leon+Nate fight is up for free on youtube, watch it and watch Leon immediately enter a very standard MMA stance - mid guard, hips angled out to present a narrow target, weight balanced or even on his front foot - he's even using a wider base than is typical because he's not really afraid of leg kicks from Nate. Leon changes stances quite frequently and occasionally you'll see him enter a stance closer to pure MT, but he doesn't stay in it long and he's still usually spreading his base a bit.
Jose Aldo basically stands in a Thai stance, and he has some of the best takedown defense in history. Obviously, not all Thai fighters stand the same. Some stand literally with their feet a couple inches apart, just tapping the lead toe. But the standard stand is pretty much how Aldo stands.
He makes it work by having godly takedown defence first. That came from ages of BJJ training.
It can work, but your grappling must be top notch in a way that life long strikers simply can't reach.
Yes culture has a lot to do with it. They already have their sport so what's the point. Also they don't have the means to train every combat, I would doubt that Thailand hasn't even handed out a hundred jiu jitsu blue belts. It doesn't cost any money to shadow box.
That’s a ridiculous assessment that can only come from ignorance