Jess Phillips Exposes Me As Sugar Eating Irrelevant Child
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2024
- In yet another interview - well, puff piece to be more honest - with the Sunday Times, Jess Phillips denounced me and my friends at Novara Media as "noisy, overexcited children who have had too much sugar", adding “Who cares what they think, frankly.” Rude, given I've been cutting sugar out of my diet, but what the substance tells us is interesting - about how the left is infantilised, especially when there is an unprecedented generational divide in politics, how the left isn't going to vanish despite their desperate hopes, and why they flit between dismissing us as irrelevant and all powerful gods with the power to swing by elections.
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NO. Feel free to ask me why Owen. I've tried to say why before.
Help you* You're a political commentator, on the left, therefore you're free, quite rightly to enjoy the privilege to promote you views, without the fear of being censored by the 'social media' platforms you post your content on, unlike your counterpart's on the right. Shouldn't you be asking for help with support for the Labour party or at least an alternative to the ruling Tory government?
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Owen she has puff pieces done in the Guardian
Jess Phillips got into politics to listen to the sounds of Jess Phillips voice. Everything she does is for herself and to cosy up further to Murdoch.
Complete narcissist
Who is Jess Phillips?
THANKYOU LEON - A LITTLE BETTER IF SOMEWHAT PERSONAL - LETS ALL REMEMBER JESS PHILIPS IS A MOTHER WITH CHILDREN SHALL WE????????????????
Jess Phillips is as self serving as any Tory!!!
@@slothape i know she is aren't you also?
The Corbyn supporters I heard, on things like Any Answers, were all mature professionals and retired professionals
I know plenty of older Corbyn fans too. Either Labour have no idea who their voters are, or they don't want to win and they want the country to go further right.
I find that sweeping statement that Middle Aged and Older people did not support Corbyn rather offensive. Age does not come into it. It is down to personal belief that a left wing government would be best for this country.
It's been a real mix for me. I even know a Corbyn-supporting former paratrooper!
@@robertwhite2628 Well done you. 1 paratrooper, eh? With support like that, how can the revolution possibly fail? 🤣
@@philipcrossley1279 Labour keeps standing on the wrong side. They stand with immigrants, big business, and sexual deviants, and against the very people whose votes they demand.
Jess has a habit of pretending everyone else, especially men, are immature.
Did Jessy upset little Julian? Men really have it bad don't they, I wonder what it is about feminist and domestic violence activist Jess Phillips that offends you?
@@КурочкаКрашена where did julian say they were upset? Where did they say they were offended? Oh yes that’s right, they didn’t. Don’t even know what point you’re trying to make to be honest…
@@КурочкаКрашена a feminist that verbally abuses and bullies women MPs. You must be simple if you fall for Jess Phillips' narcissistic act.
@@КурочкаКрашена care to explain how jess's WELL documented bullying of Diane Abbott on many national TV and radio stations fit's in with your reply?
@@replica8313 Abbott has all the intellect and oratorical flair of a decomposed onion.
After watching your interview with George Monbiot and hearing all the exciting things in store for humanity if we don’t completely restructure the world’s economy, to think that it’s ego driven, centrist politicians like Philips who have the grown up answers is laughable if it wasn’t so tragic.
She'll be safe in her air-conditioned bunker.
Jess Phillips is a Tory, not even pretending to hide it anymore. I’m just wondering why she hasn’t crossed the floor already - obviously knows she would never be elected as a Tory.
Interesting to compare her actions to the impressive Dawn Butler - a truly inspiring politician.
Dawn Butler is a Tory as well, don't settle for slightly less Tory than Phillips.
@@Irishtradchannel There are many positions Dawn Butler has taken I would have disagreed with personally, but in ONE SINGLE HoC debate she took on Johnson more than Keith has managed in the 15 months he has been Leader.
@@leewolfy Even friends fight and disagree.
Starmer isn't able for the job, regardless of his views or lack thereof.
Jess Philips belongs to a party of one, the Jess Phillips Party.
I’m a proud, Labour voting older woman (very conscious of the fact that women died for me to vote) and frankly, I can’t wait for young people to seize the political baton, and make this country one of which I can also be proud.
Well said ma’am. From a 27-year-Old lefty
Young people are not a monolith!
Jess Phillips appeared some time ago on 'Have I Got News For You?'. Her dismissal of the plight of the Palestinians at a time of heightened tensions was frankly chilling.
She's bought and sold by Israel. Isn't she in one of those Friends of Israel type groups, or used to be? She spent most of her time on HIGNFY sniggering at attacks on her own (ostensible) party.
Can't stand Jess Phillip's, a right wing self promoter.
Such a case of projection from Jess Phillips.
it's almost as if Jess is a human with feelings.
@@hannahdonovan6742 Press X to Doubt.
@@hannahdonovan6742 and so is Diane Abbott who she bullied
They're saying you're not relevant because they're very aware that you, novara and the left are very relevent.
For someone who says "who cares what they say" seems extremely sensitive about what you and novara say.
Novara media is only relevant to delusional Communists
@@seanclark2085 hi Jess how are ya keeping
Jess Philips doing what she does,not attacking the Tories... attaching the left.
Owen has spent the last few months slagging off labour.
Labour aren't the left anymore
@@mossga They are, they just aren't the far left. We already know how that project ended.
She's a right-wing plant, clearly.
@@frankshailes3205 Do you ever feel like you've lost the plot?
There are some irrelevant people and then there are some irrelevant people that are so irrelevant they are invisible - Jess Phillips is definitely one of the latter.
And yet, here you are talking about her…
Jess Philips understands how to serve the needs of power and herself.
"I'll knife the Labour leader in the front - not the back."
"Who cares what committed Labour Party supporters think, frankly." - Jess Phillips, Labour Party MP
It's a funny old world, eh?
You and the Novara people need to do a long video discussing nothing but your favourite sweets and desserts. Maybe wear t-shirts portraying sugar cubes (it turns out there are a few variants of this).
Jess Phillips is as Tory as her best mate Mogg.
Jess Philips epitomises the modern centrist Labour MP. Completely self serving. More loyal to her career than the working class people she apparently serves. How did she find time to write multiple books when people are dieing of hunger? She should have the same energy for the Tories as she has for those on the left of the party. One of the worst things I've ever seen was her creeping to Jacob Rees Mogg. Despicable.
She remains pretty vile. And hugely wrong.
Other denigration of this kind, is itself somewhat of an arrogant ad Hominen ? Who then cares what she thinks.
Jess Phillips, doesn't go after starmer, at all.
shocker that. What with him being her "comrade"
If Corbyn had stuck to his guns on the EU explained why he disliked it and should leave , which I believe he always wanted history could have been quite different
Labour is now irrelevant. They want to go back to 2010 austerity politics.
You mean that Tory policy? Labour didn't bring in austerity measures. That was David Cameron and his bunch in 2010.
*What does being 'naive' and 'unrealistic' even mean, politically?* I'm so tired of hearing it. Other than being a slimey way of saying whether or not you've pre-emptively compromised yourself and your ideas to get along, it seems to me to be little more than gaslighting.
Nothing is impossible or unworkable with enough knowledge and people power while incrementalism, just isn't axiomatically "mature" like the establishment wants to think it is. Idealism is necessary, without it, nothing would ever get better, nobody would ever have the will to care, and nobody would ever have any courage to do anything that needs doing even if displeases the powerful.
How come the right always gets its way with the most dangerous, unrealistic nonsense (BREXIT) but they're not shut-down as 'naive?' Eventhough its based in greed and sadism, their goals always seem to be worked towards and clawed at while its only the left that tells factions within itself that certain things just "can't be done."
*Why can the right be dangerously audacious,
and the left can't be righteously courageous?*
It means being Jess Phillips at this particular moment.
The very fact that you think Brexit is a right-wing concept shows your naivety and lack of sophistication. I bet you think Boris is right-wing too.
@@MrKbonez The very fact that you don't think Brexit is a right-wing concept shows your trolliness and/or delusional belligerance. I bet you think Boris isn't right-wing too.
@@satyasyasatyasya5746 I don't think he does. Nobody does..
Depression is a terrible illness.. It makes people say things they don't mean for attention.
@@satyasyasatyasya5746 If Boris was right-wing then lockdowns wouldn't have happened. State management of people's healthcare decisions is a left-wing policy.
If the Conservatives were pursuing a right-wing agenda then they wouldn't be escorting thousands of foreign invaders onto the shores of South England on a daily basis.
Shall we go on?
Great points Owen, as always. You look well but appear to be getting younger!
Don't worry- he'll 'go all at once' 😄. Thats what my mum said about her young looking friends, anyway.
I saw Jess Philips speaking at a CWU rally in London in 2015 to this day I remember being struck by her contribution which was all me-me-me with no grasp on the subject matter of the rally. Sadly, I’ve seen nothing since to change that impression.
BTW you (Owen) were also on the platform along with Sadiq Khan.
I remember this!! oh wow, like a different world, that
You let this get to you way too much, Owen
Hi Brian, this is from last week’s show, I was asked to address it and it’s a pretty baffling interpretation of this video to say it’s got to me - have you actually watched it
His mouth looks like it's trying to escape from his face.
Owen, chill. No need to defend yourself.
This is great actually. It shows you are having an impact on the right wingers and their sympathizers. You Owen and Novara keep up the great work. Love listening to your analysis.
Dont give jess philips the fuel of publicity and highlighting her. thats what she likes and feeds on it makes her feel relevant when in fact shesnjust a no were person
She's absolutely desperate for attention and thinks she should have more than she's got in life. She sucks
Why is she in the Labour party ,a conservative surely.?
She's probably a Lib Dem
Would Phillips be willing to come on to explain herself?
No chance, she would happily sit for an interview with anyone Murdoch lines up for her but she would be scared shitless if it was someone on the left interviewing her.
I doubt it, but if she did it would make an interesting interview
Grease Smugg could tell her what to say
Excellent! Thanks Owen.
Labour Party members who see supporters as the enemy need to be asked repeatedly “Do you really prefer political purity to power?”.
Purity gives personal satisfaction and a moral compass in life, a cause.
Power is mundane..
@@Irishtradchannel but nothing can change without the power to change it
@@Irishtradchannel So much better to remain in opposition?
@@DisleyDavid No, I think they just want the purity of purpose and don't care about power or change.
Modern activists get off on lecturing.
I am not young, approaching 60, spent 10 years in local government as a highways engineer, 10 years before that in construction in the private sector, setting out engineer etc, last 20 years as a teacher, of which 16 have been spent overseas. Life long Labour supporter, even under Blair, to my shame, and would I ever vote Labour again? Unlikely, but nothing is impossible. What does Labour lack? Integrity.
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Well said, Owen.
As a member of the public, and not a member of any political party, I need Labour members to stop bickering between yourselves, as if one faction of the Labour party is somehow capable of gaining power without the others. The Tories are still ahead in the polls despite everything in the past 18 months; this not the time for the Popular People's Front of Judea to suddenly storm into power, it's the time for unity against a common enemy
All about you is it?
@@davidspencer7254 me and the rest of the country, yes
@@davidspencer7254 His point is that the extreme narcissism of so many in Labour is condemning people to in Britain to Tory rule.
@@Irishtradchannel Indeed. But thats been true for over 10 years now and the drift of the Labour faction in control is trending Tory. Hence the year zero tactics of Progress/Labour First to ensure this. But most people don't know and don't care, what they see are the wet and naff media profile of Starmer and the pathetic pandemic political era. 🙄 At the moment Labour offer nothing to vote for many people and idly waiting for the Tories to become unpopular may or may not work but it will not deliver anything that the country needs to change. Anyone disagreeing with that hasn't been paying attention.
Your response can be Steve Parkers hand wringing and telling everyone to be silent about imperial nudity, or it can be to use this period where the balance of power cannot be shifted into shaming those currently in control of Labour into taking a moral or ethical stance, or even having a policy or two.
Me? I think Labour is a lost cause and should be put out of its misery, and ultimately the British political system, but to tell people to shut up and stop squabbling is to further neuter democracy and consensus building. But I don't think Labour is about democracy, consensus anymore and its not fit for purpose. Therefore I think its healthy to debate in the open.
So, to those telling all factions to shut up, respect your right to say that, but erm, go walk in that direction in jerky movements until you've dealt with your own narcissism.
Have a great day.
I don't remember this version of the 80's where young people were gung ho for Margaret Thatcher. What I seem to remember is that she was universally despised among everyone who was young and cool and trendy. Maybe they were secretly voting for her, I don't know.
Is this your Kevin Keegan moment?
Owen would love to see you deck Tony Blair
Teach Blair for being the only Labour leader to implement Labour party policy in near 50 years?
Ordinary decent MAPS rights are human rights.Equity,inclusiveness,are so important. Keep up the fight for the marginalised.
I met her, shes a nice person just eh on transrightz
Does anyone know what Jess Phillips actually stands for in terms of policies? Sure she is big advocate for women's rights and gender equality which I 100% agree with, and pre-December 2019 was a keen advocate of another EU referendum and remain, but what else?
During her comically bad leadership campaign, she really struggled to set her stall out and even in the limited areas where she gave some specifics, i.e. the EU issue, she quickly back tracked and flip flopped.
She is more charismatic than Starmer, though that's not particularly difficult. However she is a still a typically vacuous and pointless modern day (I stress modern day as in the 90s New Labour did set out their policy platform and beliefs clearly and concisely) centrist politician.
This divide between very young and much older voting Labour simply isn’t my experience. My friends and family well into their 40s and 50s all voted Labour and really liked Corbyn. The large country town where I live in a farming county, largely middle-class and many retired elderly, despite being LibDem territory for years now has a Labour-run council. The only exception i know of is a friend of my late dad’s who’s a bloke in his 80s from a very working class background, who has never been a Labour voter
Policy that clearly works is not naive or unrealistic. In fact to ignore that policy and keep digging the hole deeper is naive and unrealistic. That’s why it’s falling apart Jess, if this is your level of intellectual thought then I don’t think you’re right for the job. You’d be hard pressed to be more irrelevant than that. No one will remember you when you’re gone.
She is a Tory grifter.
The Tories I know are full of CONTEMPT towards others. So snarky too.
To be fair you have thrown quite a bit of shade at her over the years and you platformed Galloway during the bi-election.
I interviewed one of the main candidates in the Batley and Spen by election, like the BBC did, because I was doing a documentary about the Batley and Spen by election and made clear my antipathy towards him. As for Jess, I've done two perfectly warm interviews with her in the past and literally mobilised dozens of activists to campaign for her re-election. Find a less desperate line of attack.
Yes Owen, isn't it inconvenient for the Blairites that young people just won't be told!
I was at Uni when Blair became PM, he pretty much immediately sold students down the river... I will NEVER forgive him or his pals for changing the Labour party (representing the working class) into a supposed centrist labour party (for the benefit and growth of the middle classes).
I'm in the middle-aged demographic but I didn't join the Labour party until Corbyn was nominated for leader. Starmer has lied as much to us left wingers as Johnson has to the whole nation. If we could rid politics of all the lies then I could see a future for democracy... until liars are held accountable (as they are everywhere, except in politics), then I see no value in voting. I've been hoping for a revolution since Thatcher became PM. After over a decade of Blair/Brown in power, selling us down the river and now with Starmer leading "the opposition" I fear that really is our only hope to bring equity to our country. Ahh well I'm sure that's tldr but I got it off my chest!
So, does she also think Michael Walker eats too much sugar? That doesn't even hold up - he's so frigging mellow!
I have to vote SNP in uk general election. The Tory party win it May 2024. Your back Thomas.
That's a suff'rin' chore re J Philips. Shake grit out y' shoe for sure, but O.J., forget these nibblers!
Stay away from the sugar bowl and stand up for MAPS rights. Inclusiveness, equality and lgbtqssia2d++ rights.
That's quite disappointing Owen. I enjoyed the interviews you have done with Jess in the past, which have seemed quite witty and inciteful. Under Starmer, she has seen it as acceptable to show off how centrist she is. Although I do still like it when she sticks it to Johnson on Twitter.
Here’s a childish thought. Whilst we’re stuck with the anathema of First Past the Post, why don’t the Jess Philips faction join the Lib Dem’s? At least then we’d have a three party system, be capable of ousting the Tories, and the Labour Party would be able to tackle the issues that really matter.
When I was growing up in the 80s I remember many young students who were left wingers, same with the young alternative comedians on TV and stage from the 80s as well
It's like as George monbiot said, there are at least two parties in the labour party. But that is also true for the Tories too.
all labour need to do is reassure home owners that their house won't decrease in value and they'll have a chance
😂 you had me from the title.
To be fair, you always strike me as someone who's been at the Curly-Wurlys! (That's not a euphemism, by the way)
4 minutes in and he's said nothing.
The Labour Party needs Jess Phillps like a fish needs a bike
On top of young voters and minority voters, Labour are also losing the NHS vote, more of which went to The Tories in the 21 local elections than to Labour. This statistic doesn't get mentioned enough.
I guess that's what happens when you are told the only chance you'll have of a meaningful payrise is privatisation.. :/
Handbags at dawn!
You're looking well Owen. Well done on the weight/sugar thing. I'mm 66 and a passionate lifelong socialist :)
And she’s relevant because?????
I honestly never thought I'd agree with Jess Phillips on anything, well there's a first time for everything I guess.
Oh Owen....Accused of being childish you say: I don't even eat too much sugar, it's a false accusation.
You should highlight the case of Barbra Kardashian transwoman in a Limerick women prison as is her right. She has dubious recrd having threatened to kill her mother and has 15 previous covictions,(which is only one side of story). The other female prisoners may not like it's she has an intact bollox. Her human rights need protecting. Perhaps you might highlight her case.
You shouldn't be vote labour no matter who Owen, it undermines your credibility as a journalist. Also the way they have treated the left was shameful
Keep working hard mate.
Infantilisation and emasculation, It's a form of body shaming used to discredit your mental capability. She wouldn't use this lazy put-down to question an older looking guys intelligence.
She obviously hates men from her past remarks.
Youthful idealism is often dismissed as naive, unrealistic and irrelevant by 'pragmatic' politicians. Those who embrace young idealistic causes, like Tony Benn often did, become forced to operate on the periphery of mainstream politics. Jess is clearly trying to identify herself as having 'common sense' to make sure she enjoys a degree of mainstream acceptance, but as you quite rightly point out, young people are currently reacting to very real structural economic/social conditions that mainstream politics are not seeking to address or propsing to change. This is reflected by young commentators such as yourself and Ash. It was also recently manifested in the widespread popularity of Corbyn amongst educated young middle class kids. However it also shows up as anti woke nationalistic knee jerk politics among alienated, disenfranchised working class kids. Jess needs to clarify which set of 'ideals' she prefers before she dismisses the voices of the young left?
It's interesting I just come across this piece by you and Jess Phillips from a year a go but I saw your interview with her at this recent Labour party conference first I see nothing has changed her patronising attitude towards you and her refusal to really engage in the questions you tried to put to her ended with her walking away with a childlike pat on your shoulder well at least she didn't say she would stick a knife in your front like she did with Jeremy you could say that is progress
Didn't question her calling you a child tho...just the sugar? Perhaps the metaphor wasn't intended so literally (and please don't make me defend Jess Phillips again)
💖Jess Phillips
Le drama
She means you're unhinged and supporting the destructive elements of the Labour party.
If anyone wants a book for what owen is chatting about I suggest you read Raymond Williams.
Not really relevant but would love to see you have Stephen fry on the podcast sometime 👌
She's horrendous
Laughable, lets go straight personal insults. How's that working out for you Jess?
She hates you .....I'm jaleous ....
wow- hyped up on suger or what there Owen?
@93 well said
And yet, the biggest issue for the young today appears to be holidays abroad Owen.
Don’t worry, Owen. You don’t need Jess to infantilise you. You’re doing a grand job of doing that all by yourself.
Carry on. 👍
Im not in tune with you politically, but I don't subscribe to tribalism & I don't endorse any party or political ideology, I presume I fall into the category of a swing voter! But I enjoy watching your videos & hearing you options.
I have to say, infighting doesn't do anything for your cause & you're kidding yourself if you believe it's not harmful to the Labour party, or the labour movement as you'd like to say, to in someway belittle the party . You're naive to believe your content or any left wing commentator is only followed & enjoyed by those already on your political page! How do you think they'll ever be change, if alternative political views weren't listen to. It's a fact Starma appeals to Tory voter's, but you appear to only want to concentrate on the labour party staying as far left as it has been in recent years.
well he talks a lot
To be fair you do look young for your age
You OK hun?
The bitter Jess could do with a sweetener. Oops, she probably already does...
BTW incels -I'm off now - SEE YA!!!!!!!!!!!! BYEEEEEEE you will never know who i am so sorry!!!!!!!! your mummy loves you though.
You'll never recover. F
As much as I dislike all politicians, she has a point.
If she'd called me a big poo poo wee wee head I'm sure you'd have agreed with her too - that's the thing about personal attacks, you can agree with them without advancing any political argument, unlike my response in this video. And if you think I'm irrelevant, that's also fine but then why are you here lol
Don't you create division? I seen a post of yours calling the unvaccinated out!
no, I called out anti-vaxxers who deserve to be called out
@@OwenJonesTalks I am most certainly not anti vaxer, but I am most certainly anti poison. If we get the Polio vaccine, we are covered against Polio, same with Smallpox and Measle's. I lost a friend who just had one jab. He was 53. Had his jab Thursday and was gone by 2am Friday. This seems to be a pattern which seems to be covered up. Can you shed any light on these death figures in regards to people who have been jabbed twice?
I thought you weren't well.
Hey Mark, this was recorded before I got COVID but as you’ll see I also recorded a show this Sunday
Younger people need to get off their backside, join unions and force change. No one is going to hand it to you. Just a point on pensions, we pay one of the lowest in Europe.