Owen Jones meets Jess Phillips | 'I would knife Jeremy Corbyn in the front not the back'
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Jess Phillips was elected to parliament in May 2015 election and has already built a reputation as someone who says what she thinks. She's no Corbynite but says she would roll up her sleeves and do everything she can to make him a success. Even so, she says, if it gets to the point where she believes Jeremy Corbyn is harming the Labour party rather than helping it, she won't be plotting behind the scenes but out in the open.
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_groan_ She says she'll do anything to make the Labour party electable yet is all too happy to perpetuate all the divisiveness that has been haunting Labour recently and as a result is making them less relevant.
quite.
agreed
+Sir Amic Varze Yeah, I'm sure if all these MPs just lied to us about what we all know is going on then everything would be fine. You all praise Corbyn for his honesty and for holding to his principles and rebelling against past leaders, but now you want all the people you disagree with to lie and drop all of their own values to subscribe to his.
+dumbledora theexplorer there's a huge difference between lying and saying what she said.
She might have discussed that having open debate rather than a top down dictatorship as it was under Blair was a good thing and that disagreements are normal. my brother and I have fairly similar views on things, but if we disagree it doesn't make him the enemy. it means we discuss things, try to see each other's point of view, try to convince the other to change.
she could easily paint it in a positive light. she could not discuss it so readily if she can't. but she wanted to, that much was obvious. and the fact she claims she is still behind the leadership and would only attack head on whilst trying (and failing ) to veil her attack makes her a hypocrite.
You are asking her to spin everything when Jeremy Corbyn literally stands in front of signs saying "straight talking. Honest politics."
The reality is what is happening isn't just "disagreement" and it isn't normal. The party is imploding because there is no leadership. She's also a backbencher, she isn't in the shadow cabinet, she can say whatever she wants. She has the same freedom to speak that Jeremy Corbyn had when he sat on the back bench under Blair and Brown. It is completely hypocritical to expect her to be Corbyn's salesman when she doesn't believe it.
Really dislike her, if I properly voiced my opinion on her I'd be called a 'Corbynite bully'.
+LM VS Oh, you can dislike both Jess Phillips AND Jeremy Corbyn, trust me.
+LM VS dont forget a "misogynist" as she is a feminist, so anyone who disagrees with her is a sexist
+rob poynter I'll take your word for it, can I ask why you don't like Corbyn?
LM VS I'm a Reactionary.
+U WOT, HUGH WATT In all honesty, she has received misogynistic attacks such as threats to rape her etc. which are absolutely disgusting and uncalled for, the people who said those things are rightly called sexist bullies even though they're a noisy minority. However I'm not sure I'd be labeled a misogynist at all, closest to that I'd get would be if I called her a word that rhymes with hunt but she's also a bit of a word that sounds like Rick but with a P in front of it. Anyway she's a thoroughly nasty person and seems like a careerist who's willing to abandon principals to get elected, although I do somewhat appreciate her honesty about it.
If you're trying to win for the sake of winning, rather than for having principles, it doesn't even matter if you do win.
'A week is a long time ... so four years is an even longer time' what wisdom this woman has
😂
She just hated the damage that odious little twerp did to the Labour Party
Just another career politician who loves the sound of her own voice.
+Lennon6412 She was working in refuges until she was elected at the last election. I think you need to look up what a career politician actually is.
Dave McShane Someone who has no principles and is just in it for themselves.
+Lennon6412 Down with career politicians, elect Jeremy Corbyn who has been a backbencher for over 30 years.
dumbledora theexplorer At least he has principles.
+Lennon6412 Don't think you know what a career politician is my friend.
I'm sorry but Jess Phillips comes across as one of the most mindless, unsympathetic, careless and brash labour MPs. What on earth is she standing for/ fighting for. She may speak her mind but she's essentially like the donald trump of the labour party.
Bizarre comment
She's been an mp for six months and thinks she knows everything... Smfh
+Jack Tanner And she goes on about how Jeremy is only interested in foreign policy... he asks real people's questions at PMQs, he has marked all kinds of "days" for women which, tho' it's apparently her special subject, she hasn't noticed. In this interview she comes across to me as a not very intelligent loud mouth.
She just a feminist don't believe in feminist because they sexist to man it's worries 🤣 feminism needs to be bin . We need a country that looks after men and women working rights .
I'm afraid that she just seems like a bit of a prat.
I generally consider myself to be supportive of Labour, but unfortunately Jess Phillips... I just can't help but dislike her. It's not that I disagree with what she's saying (for the most part), it's just the way she comes across so self obsessed.
She was right though, wasn't she?
Such a nasty woman!
"I'll do anything to make the Labour party win" -- This is what is wrong with modern politics. Or politics at all. You shouldn't do whatever it takes to get elected; you should take an honest look at the world around you and form ideas on how to improve it, and stick to your principles regardless of moneyed interests or what the latest polls say. But that's a radical idea, I know.
+Dylan Springer Beautifully said. Completely agree. The only I would change is that you should "stick to your principles" until new evidence or compelling arguments force you to change your principles. That's probably what you meant anyway, though.
+David Stewart Yeah, of course. If it was revealed tomorrow that gun control had no relation to gun crime (hypothetically, obviously), one would expect politicians to change their positions on the matter. But it would *not* be ethical for a politician to change their position after, say, taking donations from an arms manufacturer.
Dylan Springer Again, complete agreement. I'm subscribing to you now.
Yeah look how that turned out. Seven years later and still under Tory rule. How about we worry about the ifs and buts of ethics and purity when we actually have power and can make change. When you're scratching your chin like philosophers, the poor and vulnerable are suffering.
I'll never respect this woman. Her sexism is offensive.
Your interviews have been an unmitigated success in showing MPs' human sides. I almost empathised with Jess here.
I did, Corbyn was the worst PM we thankfully never got! He's waste
She showed her true colours didn't she. She an utter snake and clearly very untrustworthy considering shes FINALLY being investigated for her undeclared interests.
Jess Phillips somehow thinks it's OK to talk about knifing somebody yet when somebody else sugggests that they WOULDN'T commit a sexual assault against her they are a really horrible person.
Thanks Owen for bringing Jess to our attention. I found her likeable but really frustrating. Doesn't she realise that she damages the Labour Party more with her naive view that she should just "tell it like it is" and thereby show the party to be unsettled and divided. By all means speak up to the powers that be but show a supportive face to the rest of us fgs. We all have to learn how to compromise wherever we work. Nowhere sees things exactly the same way as we do in our jobs but we get nowhere if we pull tantrums and, indeed, get pleasure out of telling stories about how we "stuck it to the boss". She has much going for her if she could focus and be a positive force. Keep it up Owen. The more I hear these people the more impressed I am with you and your tolerance and insight.
Diane Abbott told her she was being sanctimonious? Can't imagine why...
red tory alert!!!!!
Feminism. It's not about any fancy academic books or anything, it's about stuff not happening to you that doesn't happen to a man while not giving any examples.
Well said Jess.
Owen, you should have brought up her stance on international men's day. You yourself know that men have a plethora of problems right now (and not just suicide rates).if she is as feminist as she claims to be she should know patriarchy hurts men and as such should be supportive of the debate.
Stop with interviewing the 'jobsworth' labour MP's, already! She appears to consider the labour party to be......her. Which says it all, really. Follow something 'she' believes in???? She is there to represent her constituents, Owen., not herself. Not one of your better interviews, mate. You nearly got her when you mentioned the impostor syndrome....then let her wriggle off with her unwarranted sense of self importance. As for the feminist over the top clap trap; I just despair.....
I'm a left leaning swing voter and Corbyn has driven me to the Conservatives, possibly the Lib Dems. He cannot win the centre ground and cannot achieve anything in politics without winning a GE. Being a protest party isn't good enough, be the opposition that the British public deserve.
Jess is a fantastic addition to Parliament and so is Jeremy. Neither would be effective leaders.
The title hasn’t aged well after her urgent question today.
Just shows what hypocrites these people are. They have always used violent language, it's not a new thing like they are portraying and clearly it's nothing to do with Boris.
This is unbelievable .
'Stabber' Philips is one of the biggest phonies in politics in general, never mind the labor party....
I've decided I absolutely love this woman. She's like a left-wing version of me, albeit slightly less polished. No bullshit and straight to the point. In fact I would go as far as to say she became something of a personal hero of mine when she announced she told Dianne Abbot to F' Off. The Labour party need to get rid of that useless waste of space Corbyn and put her in charge. Even I'd consider voting Labour if she was leader.
that you would consider voting for her, combined with what she says rather suggests she's not a left wing version of anything.
+mavis cruet Well she is probably more centre left, but then I'm probably more to the centre of right, and she has the good sense to know that being as far left as Corbyn renders her completely unelectable.
+Spiritual Insanity that's true. which is why Corbyn never gets elected.
She doesn't state 'hypothetically speaking' & therefore according to British law this is a threat of violence and by the letter of that law she should be arrested & charged. Yes that's over the top but regardless it is the law & there are people in jail for using such language online. Seems as always, one law for the people & one for politicians.
Yes, I'm all for politicians talking like 'real people' but preferably informed ones, of which she doesn't seem part.
I wonder how she feels now after getting re-elected with Corbyn who gained 29 seats for the Party? And, whilst she was already an MP, it did her a great good that Corbyn's Manifesto seemed to be so well liked.
This comment hasn’t aged well, has it?
@@PE-du5qb All I did is ask a question about how she feels about Corbyn when he did a good job to gain 29 seats then- it served her purpose after all. I can't stand Jess Phillips or Corbyn for what it is worth.
what a mess
So proud that Jess is my local MP. She's amazing and works bloody hard for her community. A politician who is smart, opinionated, upfront and dose what she says. We need more like her.
+Karl Kemp-O'Brien
Funny, I couldn't disagree more. She is in my top five most unwelcome MP's.
She is sexist, ageist, racist, classist and seems angry, ignorant and dogmatic.
Perhaps she is better on local issues but her meta game is depressingly woeful.
+Karl Kemp-O'Brien Jess, is that you?
Wow, so much hate for someone being upfront and genuine.
Karl Kemp-O'Brien Are you talking about JC now?
+Karl Kemp-O'Brien No thanks, she should join her true party.
why would a women like this is allowed to say knifing any one. I don,t want this sort off women in politics .
Thing I don't get about her is she basically has the principles of change what you stand for to win votes at any cost. If your in politics to win rather than to do the right thing you should get the hell out in my opinion. The main reason I like Corbyn even if I disagree with some of the things he stands for is that he genuinely stands for them and isn't just bleating the same hymn sheet to attract gullible voters. This woman on the other hand seems like she is just another in the long line of recent politicians that want power at any cost to their own values.
I've got a feeling that I'll be told off for this, but whilst I'm not a big fan of her she seems like a person with principles, even if they aren't the same as Corbyn's. She worked in a women's refuge and wanted to do more to protect those women as things got worse under the tories. Attack the policies, not the person, Corbyn said pretty much that in the first pmq's, yet everyone seems to have forgotten that
This woman got known for verbal outbursts for Corbyn, what has she done to merit such a high profile?
What’s funny is that despite the civil, healthy and positive conversations in both, there’s more seething anger in the comments of this video than there are in the one with Rees-Mogg.
"People don't talk about Trident"? Not directly, but they do talk about lack of money for services, the £120bn for Trident doesn't link, & you as a politician can't convey that? God help us, flexibility of mind, opposing political view & strategy obviously not her thing.
The economy & how purposeful obfuscation of the public helped the Tory victory a subject each & every Labour MP should be shouting about. www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ramesh-patel/finally-the-overspending-_b_7591088.html?
Owen, it sort of seems like you're going too easy on these people. I'm loving the channel but it would be really great if you question them a little more, especially when someone like Ms. Phillips here claims that she wants to help Jeremy Corbyn while actively undermining him.
Don't hold your breath 😂
Cares more about winning the "game" than changing things
"He has been here for 33 years, he could have thought about what he might want his vision for the country to be, beyond some of his principles" - why would he think about his vision for Britain and in that vision go against his principles? some labour MPs make no sense now we have become a party that is so weak in opposition we occasionally support government. Same with Harriet Harman after the election suggesting we couldn't hold the Tories to account because they had won and we had lost.
Why is this MP inciting possible violence against the leader of her party?
Completely disagreed with her comments during the international men's day debate. But she's won me over. Great interview. As a conservative who doesn't mind Corbyn, just disagree with his policies, Phillips seems to understand the issues, and is straight talking. The British Chris Christie in the kindest sense. She gets it spot on, particularly on how to 'politics' and that the majority of us who voted conservative are not evil, or the other side. The more some on the left shout down and try to humiliate those who voted conservative, including myself, without trying to understand why we voted this way and try to persuade conservatives who they need to get back in, then Labour will remain in opposition. Keep up the fascinating content.
The nail in the coffin for was when she said: "I would do anything in order for Labour to win the next election".
I think the key word was 'anything'. I think now 'middle ground' isn't going to cut it especially in Scotland and the ambiguity over where the middle ground is. The problem with Labour is since the late 80s they've given up too much and are always fighting on the Tories chosen terrain.
video suffers from bad underexposure. Jones is out of focus. Better filming required.
Keep these going Owen they're great!
These interviews are fantastic at humanising cartoon villains. Keep up this style Owen!
Current bookmakers odds have Jeremy Corbyn at only 1/4 (a 20% chance) of contesting the next election, yet despite this, he's still 6/1 to win it.
If the Danczukistas chose to attack the Tories instead of their own leader, the odds on Corbyn contesting the next election would vastly improve, and with it, the odds on him winning the next election. Sadly, the odds on Dancuzkistas fighting the Tories are slim because they're "electoral pragmatists".
"You've got to stop the ingfighting" she says, while claiming she'll "stab Corbyn in the front". The lack of self-awareness is terrifying.
She still clings to the idea that winning votes from middle class tory voters is what will win the election. The last two elections the vote share was so close (and largely unchanged) and some seats were only a few hundred votes in favour of the tories that gaining votes from the greens and UKIP which Corbyn does seem to be able to attract will make you electable.
Will you be uploading the talk you had with Stella Creasy at the Guardian
I like her, but she must know nothing of economics, otherwise she would be backing Corbyn extremely fervently. My two cents.
+Alex Wilson She's interested more in peoples' perceptions than reality. The typical behaviour of a career politician - to hell with anything but what advances me individually. Shallow and annoying and increasingly transparent.
And even so, she's a very crap career politician, with stupid phrases like the title of this video..
+scragnog1 How is she a career politician when she didn't become an MP until this year and this clearly isn't her first job is it?
Jeremy Corbyn is a Labour legend! 🌹 Jeremy Corbyn is the true face of the Labour Party! 🌹 Jeremy Corbyn is a True Democratic Socialist!
..... Jeremy Corbyn has demolished the Labour Party!!!!
@@barnsleymat Labour 🌹 needs to be Strong! 💪
They need to be reinvented and get rid of the momentum lot.
@@barnsleymat I give up! No matter who gets in even if you know that what you are saying is correct and will make a difference for the Better their is always going to be people who don't like you or agree with you! But that's life!
@@benstevinson764 Party members have been living in delusion. It was YOU who demanded that Labour should abandon their policy on respecting the 2016 referendum result, and to table the motion of a ridiculous referendum on a bogus Brexit deal that none of your Party would campaign for. A vote for a second referendum was the death of Labour.
I would never want Jess Phillips as our prime minister. She contradicts herself and comes across as a narcissist.
Really liked this one :) It's so much easier to engage with and listen to a politician when they're being genuine.
Any chance you'd consider interviewing Suzanne Evans? I'd like to hear what she thinks of Farage - hopefully she'd be as genuine too.
Kudos to Jess for being honest and up-front about what she feels (rather like Jeremy, then). Would like to have heard in more detail what she would be doing differently.
Unfortunately, I have a tendency to back away when I hear an MP say they would do 'anything' to win the next election.
Anything? Like water down your own principles, for example?
Gods know, we saw enough of that in the last Labour Party (or 'Tories 2.0' , as I called them).
I think Labour, under Mr Corbyn should not be trying to play the Tories at the old, tired game but should be showing people that there is an alternative to the never-ending rounds of 'more bulls*it, more bombs and more bills'.
Everyone thought France's National Front or the Scottish No campaign could win as show by the polls, the media and online. But they only reflect a small circle of people Corbyn and Trump are in similar circles. This is social media politics where it's easy to destroy the status quo but not so easy to rebuild it.
She sounds like a human being. Which is nice.
I tend to switch off from MP's who talk about "getting into power" and "winning elections". They tend to be all ego and career and forget the people they are supposed to be representing. Your constituents should be your no1 priority at all times. You work for THEM not the labour party or its leaders. I didn't hear her mention them once. Me me me. Also, if she thought leading the labour party would make more people join labour thats what she would do. But hang on... Last I checked ordinary people were delighted to have a genuine man of peace and a representative of the people leading the labour party and vast number of people are now happy to vote Labour with Corbyn at the helm. Facebook is positively GLOWING with support from all kinds of folk. I very much doubt Corbyn has had to spend our tax £££s on facebook "likes". He's just had to be himself and talk about his policies. People are sick of war, sick of being worked to the bone for a pittance, sick of watching the NHS being underfunded and starved so it can fail and be sold to capitalists, and sick of picking up the tab for greedy bankers and politicians. I can't see why that is so difficult to understand for the PLP, if they were to all rally behind the bloke and get onboard his way of thinking and doing things I think an enormous wave of young people and disillusioned voters would happily tick the box in 2020. Its the internal squabbling and shit stirring by the likes of Tristum c...sorry...Hunt that is currently painting them as unelectable and inconsistent. Ive never voted due to trust issues, but would vote corbyn in a heartbeat, which for myself being as disilusioned and jaded with politics as I am is a massive achievement. Im actually inspired. I actually have hope. MP's like this are about as inspirational as cold Ready Brek and help confirm my fears that for most its a game and a power struggle. I like your interviews Owen, and you seem like a really nice chap.
What could possibly be the reason hese Labour MPs are so afraid of mandatory re-selection?
Can't say i'm a fan of Owen Jones anymore. Was impressed with his stance on the Israel-Palestine issue but really comes across as egotistical as does this lunatic he's talking to. This Tess Phillips fits the now classical definition of a neo-liberal. Selects the progressive positions she likes then is right wing or simply doesn't care on other issues. How can anyone vote for someone who is so flippant on so many important issues? beyond me. One less subscriber.
Same people who claim the party is too divided, claim she should be the next leader. She openly admits not supporting the leadership of the party she joined. Politics isn't just about winning it's about what you do with the victory, while Corbyn never won at least his plan for a better society wasn't just some centrists incremental road to nowhere. I would never vote for Jess Philips!
extreme right wingers want her as leader BECAUSE she isn't liked by half the party.
@@public.public 😬
@@public.public Bollox. Conservatives want Rebecca L-B. In truth someone like JP would make things difficult for con. Whereas Rebecca would be an absolute gift.
I love the format, but she is getting on my nerves.
I quite liked her - I think it's very common for people with an interest in politics to have a vision of what they want their country or society to look like in the future and go into a career looking to fulfil that - Jess is coming from a hugely underrepresented swathe of the population who see injustices and difficulties on a daily basis and want to make changes but feel politically disenfranchised, then become disengaged from politics as they percieve it to be a preserve of the elite. Jess has overcome so many barriers to become an MP she should be vaunted as an example to others as to how politics can and should make a difference to the challenges we percieve in daily life - and definitely should speak her mind as she represents within her peers the voices of so many people who are hugely underrepresented at the top end of politics.
Get in the sea Jess
Another brilliant interview Owen
It was the fact that the PLP would do anything to get Labour elected, like vote for the Tory welfare bill, which was the problem?
I am very impressed with her. I support the Labour leadership's actual policies, but their presentation has been dire and they have the various preoccupations that Jess mentioned.
If Corbyn has any sense, he'd take her advice on how to appeal to a wider electorate.
Go Jess. Ignore the idiots commenting on here. Ar least I live in Yardley and Im' on the electoral roll. Keep going.
Watch the video dude. She's laughing at the tory MP who suggested that Men should have a special day in the House of Commons. What's wring with Dinner ladies? BTW Her previous job was working for a domestic violence project not a dinner lady. So yes I will vote for her next time. Unless you're better qualified obviously
what I'm really struggling to understand is why someone would allow a labels to distort views? such as feminism (which as I understand it is equality for all)
her interview was full of distractions like the Diane Abbott conversation or the little red book which has nothing to do with her as an MP, it looks to me that having the gift of the gab get you everywhere nowadays
I think she seemed quite nice personally, although I'd hate to see her angry. I don't agree with her on every point but do agree that while Jeremy is sticking to his principles, the way he's going about it is letting a lot of people get the sense that the Labour party isn't suitable to lead.
Ha ha ha.. Owen's face at 3:06 . "Help me mama....help me.. i love you i do " :))
Owen
you've got to do -
Nigel Farage
Dominic Cummings
Kate Huey
Will Straw
Peter Mandelson
Nick Clegg
The Protagonists of the EU Debate
it's not Jeremy making Labour unelectable, it's the civil war in the party. Just get behind your leader ffs
There is an old saying that the empty tin rattles the loudest. Hence it has been proven.
Funny that it seems ok for Progress & Labour First to organise (against Corbyn?) but not for Momentum to organise in his support.
Can we have an interview with John Berkow and get to the bottom of the jeering and rudeness that is directed at Corbyn during PMQ's, and how it is perceived by us the public who pay for it all? How can Corbyns calmer more respectful way of conducting himself in the H.O.P be spread to everyone so those of us who watch PMQ's are not outraged and embarrassed but are actually able to hear whats going on and hear ourselves being properly represented without being felt like we have no place there? Its a big issue.
only approx 10% of the UK money is for wages
The idea of the stabbing makes me think of Jeremy Corbyn as being Jon Snow from Game Of Thrones.
The labour party need to unite if they want to get in in 2020. This is what is really frustrating
Owen J does well to take a detached view with political opponents.
Owen! What were your thoughts on Angela Eagle's more aggressive PMQs style?
The Labour Party is its own worst enemy. The arrogant MPs seem to think they have a right to be in parliament without the consent of the members. They're the ones making Labour unelectable.
Brilliant. She is such a breath of fresh air and such a waste in opposition. Why we need a Labour government.
We probably couldn't be much farther apart politically Owen but I love your channel and videos !
Private schools, yay or nay? I presume it will be a nay but could you elaborate the benefits?
Jeremy Corbyn, please slam the door in the face of this harridan when she comes to harass your office staff and if she continues remove the whip from her and throw her out of the party. Why is it OK for her to continue to bully him and the shadow cabinet and their staff yet when a protester does the same thing the police are called.
Some people just exude disingenuousness.
The blurb at the top of this video asserts that phillips will do everything she can to make him a success ...I'm incensed by the insincerity of this woman .the truth is that she will do everything she can to ensure that jeremy fails .. shocking interview from a Labour mp absolutely shocking ...
The feminist thing is fine, it's just that there are plenty of things that men have to deal with, and things that are easier for women than for men, particularly a socially awkward, passive man vs a socially awkward, passive woman.
Not sure i like her that much as a person. But i do have a massive crush on her
Is it the Peaky Blinders accent that does it?
I like the theory but it is painful to hear a Labour Politician carry on with the negativity. Hearing her repeat the Tory smears is just giving them credibility. But it was nice to hear a truthful interview. But when you have one rose surrounded by thorns...well the conclusion is obvious... Isn't it?
If I didn't know she was Labour, I wouldn't say she's Tory, I'd say she's UKIP. More here style.
What a great idea Jess, that won't end up killing large amounts of people over the next decade!
Phillips' reason for going into politics. (6 mins 25 secs "....I'd got laissez faire about the Labour Govt, everything was going all right when we had a Labour Govt, and then working in the refuge under the Tories I realised that I had to fight back..." Blair's Govt bring in The Equality Act in 2006. 2010 Tories apply gender discrimination policy against "Women Only" refuge culture. 2011-13 Phillips postgrad in Public Sector Management. 2015 elected to Parliament. Are you sure you've given Jess enough rope, Owen? Sadly Phillips is a symptom of how low grade minds are going into politics thanks to Anthony Charles Lytton Blair. Stick to Strictly, Phillips.
a nutt case MP
How did it feel to hear the same valid criticisms of Corbyn and his leadership come from the left that come from the right?
The Div rates itself.
She's honest. I like her alright. And she's right about putting that red book down. My God.
Solidarity with Jeremy though.
She's got one thing right - she deffo seems better suited to being a reality TV star than to politics...
Owen why on earth would you give this woman air time when all she wishes to do is undermine Jeremy Corbyn ....I thought you were on his side ...You once said that there was nobody on Jeremy's side in the media ; this statement sure seems more true than ever when I look at the critical contribution you yourself are making. With friends like you Owen who needs enemies !.
I like her but she reminds me of Greg Davis