I really like Owens' relationship with Jess Phillips and Jacob Rees Mogg, both have got to be two of my favourite MPs. Even though I really don't like labour, Jess Phillips is the kind of MP I want to win. One that genuinely seems to care, even if I don't agree with many of her ideas. Also its so uncannily true what she said about 'pavement politics' being one of the most important things for people!
"Labour voters are much more tribal" ... labour was the party of Scotland for over a hundred years. Withing a space of 10 years labour are almost non existent in Scotland
Think she was talking about her own constituency. In any event, things like that kind of sea change happen rarely, but when they do happen they tend to be seismic. As the famous book, "The Strange Death of Liberal England" describes, many parts of the UK were tribally Liberal until the Labour Party replaced them. Nevertheless, things are changing and people are nowhere near as tribal as they once were
I was a Labour party member and then quit and joined the Liberals because of Brexit. However, hearing Tim Farron say he won't work with Tories to try and mitigate their policies on brexit and other policies there is now no point to vote Liberal because they don't want to do anything to halt a Tory rampage. Furthermore hearing the Labour manifesto has brought me back to Labour, I think its exciting, achievable and can be paid for.
Hi everyone! I've been asked to do videos with a range of MPs during the election campaign: lined up, we have Angela Rayner, Clive Lewis and Keir Starmer. As you can see, there's no putting the boot into the Labour leadership here, which the rest of the media have covered to be honest. For those saying they want Labour MPs they disagree with to lose: you do realise that will mean a Tory landslide, right?
Owen Jones nobody wants that they're just venting frustration because it's deserved for people like her who have acted counter productive during Corbyns entire tenure, even in this video she insults labour voters by calling them tribal in comparison to the tory voters. How are we going to get a centre left labour elected when the MPs won't accept it?
TDYLN I like her style. I don't know if I agree with her on everything and I don't know if gentle conflict or laboured listening is her thing, though it's harder in real life she obviously does canvass and do parliament and all sorts. And that's her prerogative and more so just part of the style I like as well.
Owen, 232 Labour MPs were elected in 2015, why not interview some of them? I honestly don't think many of your subscribers care much about what Jess is up to right now.
The fact that people would sooner talk about Gogglebox than Brexit, kinda sums up why this country is fucked/ The most popular show on TV is a show about watching people watching TV. Next there will be a show where people watch themselves watching Gogglebox
you should totally come to stoke...you'll never see a more diverse range of views and opinions...most journalists I've seen tend to focus on Shelton (Near the train station) or Hanley (The shopping area) but there are so many other parts of the city to explore and the range of opinion is ridiculous...
Labour used to stand for the working man but that is now not the case.I voted Labour all my life religiously until 2010,but I've now realised that Labour bankrupts the country then the Tories have to come in and sort the mess out.They say they will leave the EU but what they want is to keep payments stay in single market and be ruled over by European courts, so they want to leave in name only that's not what we voted for.On Trident the whole point of a nuclear deterrent is to say that you would use it to deter people from attacking you,Jeremy Corbyn can't do that and is an IRA sympathiser, Diane Abbott in charge of MI5 is laughable not to mention John McDonnell is a Marxist.I could go on as I feel so strongly on these subjects,Labour are not fit for power.
Simon Quinn They're somehow getting less done with what they're getting. Rising inequality has long been an issue, not tied to either party very securely; but don't kid yourself what end the conservative party is hindering and which it's raising up.
Yes trying to sort out the mess that Labour left the country in do you remember the notes that were left for thew new government after Labour sorry there's no money left
I am excited about the election. Strength in diversity. This might be a bit more then blowing the doors off. In my alma mater constituency, taking numbers outside the polling station in Ambergate, Amber Valley. It was outlying conservative voters in the general that were the most stable vote. They came out for the general automatically. That was why it just me sitting there, not a conservative teenager, they didn't have to get their vote out. Though perhaps that process is a bit creepy and self defeating stalkerish. But at the same token, some family won't ever not vote Labour. I've voted Plaid Cymru in Wales and Greens here in Shipley, West Yorkshire in council elections, and my councillors are Green. But generals, similar here to Amber Valley, a little bit anyway. And the conservative wards in the constituency and the more rural areas bring out their conservative vote in general elections. I'm not sure how wide the family is, and there's great aunts that don't get on and only see each other but don't speak at big dos, but will sometimes drop that eventually. Time will tell. Not all families stay together or if they do not happily. I liked the idea of the film. But it can't always be like the heartwarming film. Sometimes that's the film we're watching when it seems like everything's falling apart. As I say I think there's hope. The trend in polling, the nurse conference, the reception to the referendum - the successful and yet very traditional short phrase. Not one of mine lol, but I like it! Even Corbyn saying he's not a pacifist - personally disappointing plus point for the electorate. It's looking good. I just wish there were pollsters and journalists and more people drenching this entire constituency of Shipley more ways. But I am still kinda hopeful for Steve Clapcote. Dragonboat winning team for the Sunday. We know surprising things can happen!!
Music Lover He's not the first or last politician to try engaging with the Middle East in various ways, working with the complexity. Things get said and done, like with the bullingdon club, when people are young and bent on living their values: anti colonialism and wild negotiation to process the angst and toxin of Northern Ireland and bring them to the table could be understandable in my book, but it is actual lives involved and does make uncomfortable reading. We look at news from far away and try to identify heroes and villians but it's rarely that simple. I am thoroughly ashamed of English oppression of Ireland and wish positive community, I think Corbyn does too. And McDonnell. All my life I have been thoroughly ashamed of our nations past in many ways even while living family friends and neighbours and bonded with many things about our culture and history. But it's very important not to let blind nationalism set a price on our own protection and continued relative privileges as a nation above those of other people. To justify that would be to stand with every bigot who ever mowed down a person in Ireland or abroad in the name of King/Queen and country, in my name. Not in my name.
andy mane Have you read privilege 101 of the many versions available on the Internet also what I am ashamed of is my own business, my awareness and relation to injured suspicious or judging parties, and shame is barely always chosen anyway. It's a feeling. And yet it is one I choose, I still benefit from the privileges acted and built up and hurts are still active: "other people did it too" - like the Belgians in Congo for example- that was never an excuse in school. Also European colonialism was something exercised by individual countries but not done in isolation. Corporate responsibility is also a thing and if my family owned Nazi gottenloot I'd be ashamed and want to give it back and indeed our country still holds many national treasures of other countries and business backed by Britain and it's diaspora or influenced tend to be at roots of many bad things
Kathy Bramley.. Do you think the arabs have guilt because of the arab slave trade...If so why are they so proud of their past and their slavery?? Is it because they are muslims and the people of Britain are (or were) Christian and therefore slightly more forgiving and progressive?
Tribal politicians/commentators are partisan. An oxymoron to democracy. Interesting interview as always, Owen. Jess is not the brightest of candidates for member of parliament but heart is very much in the right place and Westminster needs a good mix of people to represent the citizenship (who judging on many of the comments below are "a bit thick" while at the same time get easily offended. Or do male egos tend to bruise easily these days...)
Stop rushing to the post-election phase. There's nothing to be gained for Labour by wishing the next few weeks away and getting back to the next round of infighting.
Everyone just wants a more peaceful life? Sorry jess some people have a little more aspiration than enjoying a crap Christmas movie, and for having aspersions and a work ethic you want to tax the livinng bejesus out of them.
Campaigning on the doorsteps of her constituency is very admirable. And all to keep her job under a leadership she doesn't support. A man who's supported by a large proportion of the party. And whose policies are welcomed by a huge proportion of the country. But keep quiet about the positives. Just keep trotting out the divided and despondent theme. It's seems strange she's standing again given how much she doesn't agree with the membership's choice of leader and the direction the membership want to go in. And in that lies the Labour Party membership's problem. She's currently a Labour Party MP, but she doesn't support the Labour Party's wishes. And more bizarrely she's not the exception, she's the rule. The PLP stopped being socialist over two decades ago, but no one sent out the memo so most of the membership never realised. And for the ones that did it was too late. I'd urge everyone to vote for the best placed candidate to defeat the local Tory, with the exception of UKIP (obviously). I hope that Labour can win a majority and form the next Government. But if the likes of Owen Jones manage to talk them down to the point the Tories win by a large majority I hope that many of the CLPs wake up and clean house. Because by the next election the people of the country will be begging for a strong and stable alternative. :D
Jess is one of the worst people.. Owen I had a moment when I thought your eyes had opened (when you stormed off Sky) but you failed to absorb and react. Jess is hanging on by tribalism alone, she is unworthy by any other measure or choice.
Under Labour the 45% tax rate won't bring in anything like the tax required to fund labours vast spending programs which includes promises to ensure a Bank and fast broadband in every community, a raise for public servants, more for NHS, education, refugees and all the rest. They will then start seeking tax from the rest of us. If you want to thrive under Labour, get on the sick or join a minority such as the Traveller community. BBC is nationalised and full of high paid fat cat luvvies and a ton of staff that take loads of time off to have children at the tax payers expense. Don't think Labours new nationalised industries will keep your bills down,
as time passes and i see more of these incompetent plebeian mp's i wish they bumped the pay up to attract better people. avoiding the obvious derision on her accent, what has she accomplished in her life that merits her status as an mp? had a baby? been through the school system? give me a break. put a few ex military in there over her any day and until the calibre of mp's improves, the country wont achieve its potential
To Jess Phillips: maybe if you spent more time countering right-wing media narratives instead of feeding into it, then perhaps Jeremy wouldn't be your lightning rod.
Owen Jones Despite being a bit negative in the past I admire her tenacity and steel.I think she has a big future in the Labour Party.I certainly wish she was my MP rather than the ineffectual Tory in my constituency(Hendon).
keep knocking on door and building long lasting relationships in-between elections is always the answer. I personally believe people vote for people they know and understand more than political parties
I would happily vote for Jess Phillips. If she was wrong to criticize Corbyn as leader then Labour will win the general election in June. She is committed, honest and credible. She fights for what she believes in and succeeds in representing ordinary, oppressed and disadvantaged people. No ideological notions that either won't work or won't get support - just real politics.
'If she was wrong to criticize Corbyn as leader then Labour will win the general election in June.' On the contrary, it's precisely *because* of the efforts of people like her within the PLP to sabotage Corbyn's leadership that Labour almost certainly won't win in June. 'No ideological notions that either won't work or won't get support - just real politics.' Corbyn's ideological notions would work a lot better and, I think you'll find, have a lot more popular support than what we've been trying for the last three-and-a-half decades or more - a set of ideological notions that manifestly haven't worked in any sense, have little popular support and which, incidentally, Jess Phillips and her Labour right-wingers cling to stubbornly.
Thank you for your reply. I agree, personally, that there is a great deal to reform in our political/economic system, however, I think where we collide is on where the responsibility lies for Corbyn's failed leadership. Just to provide some context I voted for Corbyn in the first leadership round, however soon after learned that he may not win the GE - something I couldn't believe at first! This made me question whether or not he should lead the party... Why wouldn't other member's of Labour party, who disagree with Corbyn's far left, radical views, need to challenge him? They are representing people in the country who have no interest in such ideas as anti Trident and even anti austerity. I understand the advantage of the PLP appearing to be in support of Corbyn but I believe they consider the reality of their constituents' views, which do not in fact relate to socialism. It would be easy for Corbyn and his supporters to place responsibility away from themselves.To say that the media and other politicians are criticizing them unfairly and that most people would support them. However, its clear that the far-left membership, who elected Corbyn, do not represent the country at large - a group of people who are primarily in the centre ground of politics. To lead the Labour party to government the task is to lead both sides of the party, not just the far left.
Dr Watson But don't do yourself down by calling yourself a batty girl unless you _are_ proudly reclaiming it. Probably best saved for a particular kind of space, old school humour, wrestling that toxic shit down.
Dr Watson it's not that your 'did you just assume my blender" style joke isn't funny on some level, but it's p clear you think respecting gender identity is the joke lmao
By the power of grey skull???? That alone means I am absolutely voting Labour! Ok, also extra NHS, education and social spending, re-nationalisation of failing infrastructure and utilities, reduced small business tax, banning zero-hour contracts and unpaid internships, free insulation for disabled veterans, 10k more police officers (after a 20% reduction while May was home sec, thanks), 100,000 new homes and 4k homes for the homeless... but mainly the He-Man reference.
I think as an individual MP Jess has done some great things, especially the work on domestic violence. I would like male victims like myself to at least be acknowledged that we exist in that debate, it the work she has done for female victims has been a big step forward.
Mmm. We donate half our monies raised in the non political non partisan Shipley Feminist Zealots to CALM when we deliver cake and try to keep Phillip Davies accountable in the constituency. But there's a question about whether we're looking like appeasers and diluting our message - a bit like the Labour Party and the immigration mug I think though it's never been mentioned that I have heard being outside of any party, being full of a mix of libdems, social anarchists, labour supporters, non political people and in theory any conservative anti-Davies ppl. The Labour Party has always been supposed to be a broad church while representing the interests of "labour" - of the many in a humanised way, and also beyond the reaches of workplaces where unions can't go. And also involving a range of theorists and allies from all classes.
Philip Davies says he represents women's interests and mens interests, but he talks down bills about hospital parking charges after saying he stands up for carers (he argued it was a bad bill but there were other opportunities for scrutiny and he isn't a God in parliament, but consistently with his gambling industry links he sees his role as taking what power he can get, seeking rather ruthlessly to game the rules of parliament): despite his protestations and filibustering, the Istanbul convention specifically mentions male victims of domestic violence. The stats are still disproportionate and that's why it's giving a proportional representation to those issues, especially considering historical patriarchy. It is representative of considerable progress overall that Davies recourse against feminism is to play the equality card, badly. But that progress was not gained by the likes of him.
I don't know all the ins and outs of what's being done politically. All I know is, my boyfriend would goto church on Sundays, hear all the anti gay messages, come home, take it all out on me, then apologise the next day. On the 'final' Sunday, he decided to use a piece a skirting board and smack me round the head abit with it. When the hospital convinced me to let them call the police, the police arrived and once they established that my boyfriend wasn't as tall as me, I was told It would be advisable to learn to defend myself. I then heard the words "man up for gods sake" as they chuckled down the corridor. So all I know is, the police didn't give a damn, only my brother did when he found out what was going on.
Adam, you put the tin lid on the thing. Male on male violence in general is much higher than male on female violence. If it's any help to you I have a gay friend whose drug addict boyfriend stabbed him in the stomach before doing a bunk. The case was handled by the Met. and despite being so messy what with a big age gap,drugs involved, he-said he-said and so on my friend had nothing but the highest praise for the cops. So maybe things are changing, or maybe my friend got lucky - but more probably because my friend is well educated and the boyfriend not so much. Class again. Any way I hope that gives you some comfort that things might not always be as bad for other people as they were for you. So yes ALL violence needs highlighting. And poor male kids do more of it than most other people, and are the primary suffers from that violence. Primacy should NOT be given to Violence Against Women. Agreed.
I think it would have been better if JessPhillips had stopped talking about tribalism and gardens but instead talked about things that really matter to working class people, jobs (real jobs), the NHS, education etc...
When May became prime minister i saw a lot of people complaining she was unelected and wasn't doing the brexit negotiations right, now they have a chance to vote in whoever they want to do the brexit negotiations the same people are still complaining, make up your fucking minds
Your friendly neighborhood Nigerian price theres a guy due in court soon (might have happened already) charged with making a joke about nazis so no we don't have free speech, id like it if we did but we don't, but since you seem to be on the side of free speech your reply makes no sense, I'm allowed to say make up your minds and I never said anyone couldn't criticise anyone, I don't know what your problem is
Owen I wrote a comment 24hrs ago saying how now I am going to vote Labour. Well, now, I think am going back to the Liberals because of the referendum offer in there manifesto and there policies are still to the left. To be honest I expect to change my mind again before the 8th June.Therefore,I think it would be good if you did a video comparing Labour and Liberal policies and exploring their predicted impact on the country whilst also covering brexit territory and foreign policy. Thanks I know you put a lot of effort in your videos and you must find it hard to find to make them but I do think that would be a good topic.
I like what I've seen about Jess Phillips and her agreeable personality, but this was filmed before her party's recent Armageddon. I'll bet Brexit is coming up now.
If I have time. I shot this one in s-log (first time I'd used it) and then wanted to give it a proper boost but was under pressure to get an edit out for the guardian. I gave it a very quick go over but didn't have enough time for a proper grade.
Did Davies hate disabled people or women or relatives/carers of the hospitalised, or anybody getting statutory help with intimate partner violence, or people in bad housing situations, foreigners, when he attacked related movements, bills and rights? He wants to help everybody escape from the tyranny of bad and unnecessarily divisive "lunatic" legislation and movements apparently! He and his supporters say so. Why wouldn't Jess Phillips on Men's Day be at least slightly the same?
Having lived basically my whole life in Birmingham, I think Jess Phillips would communicate really well with a lot of brummies. Whilst there's a place for policy wonks and ideologues - which many people watching this video might find more engaging - in Westminster, it's important to have representatives who can speak with people who don't give a crap about Karl Marx.
pjbainzo93 as someone who loves policy and economics stuff I totally agree. labour do need to shake things up, they couldn't just keep doing the same stuff. hopefully new ideas will come about
pjbainzo93 What about idealologues who haven't really given a crap about Karl Marx. He's always been one of many inspirations, with varying roles for various people. The tradition or very loose terminology of Marxism isn't at all 100% verbatim singularly interpreted fundamentalist literalist cult worship, it's progressed like most social theory. And tbh it's highly insulting and questionable, not necessarily because Marx is all crap, but it's similar to assigning all social concern or say sacrifice to Jesus, seeing Christ types in all literature: there's a conservative rhetoric by which this one partly respectable figure of leftwing historical thought is made into a hypercritical weirdly hyperbolic branding smear. It's ridiculous! And we all need to work against this high dudgeon. If Marxism is a religion it's cultish and intolerant to turn Marx into some all powerful force majure carcrash Antichrist, it's also isn't respectful of party members and people who have made a lot of inroads under that inspiration, also if it isn't a religion or cult then maybe it's high time we stop treating it like one.
pjbainzo93 We need to show respect to each other in the party, and to people and to the sanctity and reality of ideas generally: unless you don't care about unity, safety or sense. Because there's a wing of the party that's very incautious about high powered outsiders and glitz and glamour and in accepting the heirarchy narratives that do great disservice to the many. At the same time they also seem ready to give in and insult them as herding animals on stampede and listen to whatever is said uncritically without debates and negotiations with everybody. They reduce people to mugs. Sorry - couldn't resist that pun.
Hi, thanks for your comment. Apologies if my comment came across as flippant. It was only intended to illustrate that the vast majority of people are not into their political theory, and was not intended to equate all leftisit thinking with Karl Marx, although I can see how it may have come across that way. It was also not meant to be adversarial to anyone who is a fan of Marx in the slightest (myself included). im not a member of the labour party, but I agree that the labour party should be striving for unity. Apologies if my comment went against that sentiment.
Owen, please come to the Cardiff North constituency. Possible Labour gain from the Tories if we get out there. Think a video like this in Cardiff North might convince more people like me to campaign in the seat.
o jeez lovely comments so far - jezza is millband + maybe 1%? nothing much wrong with manifesto - not as radical as the newspapers or jezza pretends - but it is 2017 there is a thing called the internet and people dont want to work for "bosses" anymore - so not a manifesto mostly for the future but one that pings some soundbites - good luck mately boi - just hope lovely people survive it
Kathy Bramley true. I guess I asked the question since many of the comments below are bitterness and anger. all that being said labour manifesto is fucking great.
Jess Phillips is such an amazing person and I wish she was the prime minister rather than Theresa May. Ms Phillips is doing such a brilliant job with her feminist views and tackling sexism against women and I commend her.
Was worried a lumbering buffooon with long hair and a moustache like myself might be more detrimental to the cause knocking on doors but now after watching this... need to do it
Jess saying about the Labour Party being reunited whatever happens after the 2017 elections. She couldn't have been more wrong as much as I like Jess, I couldn't support her for leadership as I don't see her as an uniter, and then the fact she stepped down from the contest, speaks volumes.
So many shots in this video looks like Jess Phillips walking her son home from school.
And
Jess Phillips: "He knows literally, everybody"
Habib: "Well, not literally."
Ha ha ha ha.
I really like Owens' relationship with Jess Phillips and Jacob Rees Mogg, both have got to be two of my favourite MPs. Even though I really don't like labour, Jess Phillips is the kind of MP I want to win. One that genuinely seems to care, even if I don't agree with many of her ideas. Also its so uncannily true what she said about 'pavement politics' being one of the most important things for people!
"People who vote Labour are a lot more tribal."
Well, I can't think of a more rousing condemnation of Labour voters than that!
I cannot stand Jess Phillips. Awful.
"future for Labour"
ah that's adorable.
It's not surprising people don't want to talk about Brexit because nobody has the answers.. Who knows how the future will shape out
She says Brexit is not a doorstep issue and then says the biggest issues are immigration and lack of housing...
I know what you mean but none of those relate to the actual components of Brexit.
"Labour voters are much more tribal" ... labour was the party of Scotland for over a hundred years. Withing a space of 10 years labour are almost non existent in Scotland
Think she was talking about her own constituency. In any event, things like that kind of sea change happen rarely, but when they do happen they tend to be seismic. As the famous book, "The Strange Death of Liberal England" describes, many parts of the UK were tribally Liberal until the Labour Party replaced them. Nevertheless, things are changing and people are nowhere near as tribal as they once were
I was a Labour party member and then quit and joined the Liberals because of Brexit. However, hearing Tim Farron say he won't work with Tories to try and mitigate their policies on brexit and other policies there is now no point to vote Liberal because they don't want to do anything to halt a Tory rampage. Furthermore hearing the Labour manifesto has brought me back to Labour, I think its exciting, achievable and can be paid for.
Hi everyone! I've been asked to do videos with a range of MPs during the election campaign: lined up, we have Angela Rayner, Clive Lewis and Keir Starmer. As you can see, there's no putting the boot into the Labour leadership here, which the rest of the media have covered to be honest. For those saying they want Labour MPs they disagree with to lose: you do realise that will mean a Tory landslide, right?
Owen Jones nobody wants that they're just venting frustration because it's deserved for people like her who have acted counter productive during Corbyns entire tenure, even in this video she insults labour voters by calling them tribal in comparison to the tory voters. How are we going to get a centre left labour elected when the MPs won't accept it?
can you do theresa may????????
"Can you do Theresa May" ?
I think he is gay tbh
Lol
UR3ANFISH She could turn him out no? 😂
arguing against a progressive alliance means a Tory landslide, you tribalistic tit
Hey Owen! My wife's boyfriend loves your channel!
Lol you be surprised how many lobour tribalist would take your joke literally
Now that was funny!
I like her, shame politicians aren't more like her
TDYLN I like her style. I don't know if I agree with her on everything and I don't know if gentle conflict or laboured listening is her thing, though it's harder in real life she obviously does canvass and do parliament and all sorts. And that's her prerogative and more so just part of the style I like as well.
Don't understand why she doesn't want an election and the opportunity (although slim) for Labour to get rid of the Tories.
She's still part of the team whether it's her dream team and best prep or not.
why is the canvassing not done at the food bank where MPs justify the need for a food bank and the reason for depravity in a community.
Owen, 232 Labour MPs were elected in 2015, why not interview some of them? I honestly don't think many of your subscribers care much about what Jess is up to right now.
It's hardly surprising that Gogglebox is the current of intellectual wattage Jess Phillips constituency could produce.
Loved it. Great to see and listen to real people not celebrities.
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"People talk more to me about Gogglebox" Perhaps that's a reflection of the quality of debate people expect to get from you Jess????
some good points.
The fact that people would sooner talk about Gogglebox than Brexit, kinda sums up why this country is fucked/ The most popular show on TV is a show about watching people watching TV.
Next there will be a show where people watch themselves watching Gogglebox
I would vote for Jess but not if she turned up with Owen Jones.
don't worry jess i wouldn't even vote for you :3
"Tory voters will vote around but people who vote Labour are a lot more tribal"
????
Absolute nonsense. Has she ever heard of the Home Counties.
True but i think she was talking about the Tories in her constituency.
Think she was talking about her own constituency.
you should totally come to stoke...you'll never see a more diverse range of views and opinions...most journalists I've seen tend to focus on Shelton (Near the train station) or Hanley (The shopping area) but there are so many other parts of the city to explore and the range of opinion is ridiculous...
I'll tell you something for nothing, they better not come to my door.
Labour used to stand for the working man but that is now not the case.I voted Labour all my life religiously until 2010,but I've now realised that Labour bankrupts the country then the Tories have to come in and sort the mess out.They say they will leave the EU but what they want is to keep payments stay in single market and be ruled over by European courts, so they want to leave in name only that's not what we voted for.On Trident the whole point of a nuclear deterrent is to say that you would use it to deter people from attacking you,Jeremy Corbyn can't do that and is an IRA sympathiser, Diane Abbott in charge of MI5 is laughable not to mention John McDonnell is a Marxist.I could go on as I feel so strongly on these subjects,Labour are not fit for power.
Simon Quinn Debts gone up during the conservative governments since Blair...
Simon Quinn They're somehow getting less done with what they're getting. Rising inequality has long been an issue, not tied to either party very securely; but don't kid yourself what end the conservative party is hindering and which it's raising up.
Yes trying to sort out the mess that Labour left the country in do you remember the notes that were left for thew new government after Labour sorry there's no money left
I am excited about the election. Strength in diversity. This might be a bit more then blowing the doors off.
In my alma mater constituency, taking numbers outside the polling station in Ambergate, Amber Valley. It was outlying conservative voters in the general that were the most stable vote. They came out for the general automatically. That was why it just me sitting there, not a conservative teenager, they didn't have to get their vote out. Though perhaps that process is a bit creepy and self defeating stalkerish. But at the same token, some family won't ever not vote Labour. I've voted Plaid Cymru in Wales and Greens here in Shipley, West Yorkshire in council elections, and my councillors are Green. But generals, similar here to Amber Valley, a little bit anyway. And the conservative wards in the constituency and the more rural areas bring out their conservative vote in general elections.
I'm not sure how wide the family is, and there's great aunts that don't get on and only see each other but don't speak at big dos, but will sometimes drop that eventually. Time will tell.
Not all families stay together or if they do not happily.
I liked the idea of the film. But it can't always be like the heartwarming film. Sometimes that's the film we're watching when it seems like everything's falling apart.
As I say I think there's hope. The trend in polling, the nurse conference, the reception to the referendum - the successful and yet very traditional short phrase. Not one of mine lol, but I like it! Even Corbyn saying he's not a pacifist - personally disappointing plus point for the electorate. It's looking good. I just wish there were pollsters and journalists and more people drenching this entire constituency of Shipley more ways. But I am still kinda hopeful for Steve Clapcote. Dragonboat winning team for the Sunday. We know surprising things can happen!!
I wouldn't mind if Sophie won. But I am still hoping for Steve.
Music Lover He's not the first or last politician to try engaging with the Middle East in various ways, working with the complexity. Things get said and done, like with the bullingdon club, when people are young and bent on living their values: anti colonialism and wild negotiation to process the angst and toxin of Northern Ireland and bring them to the table could be understandable in my book, but it is actual lives involved and does make uncomfortable reading. We look at news from far away and try to identify heroes and villians but it's rarely that simple. I am thoroughly ashamed of English oppression of Ireland and wish positive community, I think Corbyn does too. And McDonnell. All my life I have been thoroughly ashamed of our nations past in many ways even while living family friends and neighbours and bonded with many things about our culture and history. But it's very important not to let blind nationalism set a price on our own protection and continued relative privileges as a nation above those of other people. To justify that would be to stand with every bigot who ever mowed down a person in Ireland or abroad in the name of King/Queen and country, in my name. Not in my name.
andy mane Have you read privilege 101 of the many versions available on the Internet also what I am ashamed of is my own business, my awareness and relation to injured suspicious or judging parties, and shame is barely always chosen anyway. It's a feeling. And yet it is one I choose, I still benefit from the privileges acted and built up and hurts are still active: "other people did it too" - like the Belgians in Congo for example- that was never an excuse in school. Also European colonialism was something exercised by individual countries but not done in isolation. Corporate responsibility is also a thing and if my family owned Nazi gottenloot I'd be ashamed and want to give it back and indeed our country still holds many national treasures of other countries and business backed by Britain and it's diaspora or influenced tend to be at roots of many bad things
Kathy Bramley Did the brown muslim men in Rotherham have privilege over the white working class females that became their victims..
Kathy Bramley.. Do you think the arabs have guilt because of the arab slave trade...If so why are they so proud of their past and their slavery??
Is it because they are muslims and the people of Britain are (or were) Christian and therefore slightly more forgiving and progressive?
Tribal politicians/commentators are partisan. An oxymoron to democracy. Interesting interview as always, Owen. Jess is not the brightest of candidates for member of parliament but heart is very much in the right place and Westminster needs a good mix of people to represent the citizenship (who judging on many of the comments below are "a bit thick" while at the same time get easily offended. Or do male egos tend to bruise easily these days...)
I like jess she seems down to earth and intelligent
Justice for Chelsey.
Stop rushing to the post-election phase. There's nothing to be gained for Labour by wishing the next few weeks away and getting back to the next round of infighting.
Stallman Was Right!
Love Jess Phillips
There is NO time that you don't really have to do anything you silly rabbit even in that bit between Christmas and New Years
I love elections, we need another one soon
@Daniel Clark Clark we need another this tory gov is espically horrendous
Not exactly dignified is she
"BoboDoboRobo" Shadilay
BoboDoboRobo Obviously the most important thing forv a lady on your universe!?
Rahhhhhhhhhhhh
Quite an important thing for any politician tbh. You kinda want them to take themselves and their job pretty seriously
Everyone just wants a more peaceful life? Sorry jess some people have a little more aspiration than enjoying a crap Christmas movie, and for having aspersions and a work ethic you want to tax the livinng bejesus out of them.
YOUNG PEOPLE VOTE LABOUR WE HAD ENOUGH OF 7 YEARS OF AUSTERITY!!!
My chucking bins!! What can I say that hasn't been said before?erofeb dias neeb t'nsah taht yas I nac tahW !!snib gnikcuhc yM
Campaigning on the doorsteps of her constituency is very admirable. And all to keep her job under a leadership she doesn't support. A man who's supported by a large proportion of the party. And whose policies are welcomed by a huge proportion of the country. But keep quiet about the positives. Just keep trotting out the divided and despondent theme.
It's seems strange she's standing again given how much she doesn't agree with the membership's choice of leader and the direction the membership want to go in. And in that lies the Labour Party membership's problem. She's currently a Labour Party MP, but she doesn't support the Labour Party's wishes. And more bizarrely she's not the exception, she's the rule. The PLP stopped being socialist over two decades ago, but no one sent out the memo so most of the membership never realised. And for the ones that did it was too late.
I'd urge everyone to vote for the best placed candidate to defeat the local Tory, with the exception of UKIP (obviously). I hope that Labour can win a majority and form the next Government. But if the likes of Owen Jones manage to talk them down to the point the Tories win by a large majority I hope that many of the CLPs wake up and clean house. Because by the next election the people of the country will be begging for a strong and stable alternative. :D
Thank you Owen, you're doing a great service.
Really? To who?
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Jess is one of the worst people.. Owen I had a moment when I thought your eyes had opened (when you stormed off Sky) but you failed to absorb and react.
Jess is hanging on by tribalism alone, she is unworthy by any other measure or choice.
PS when can we stop using the 'David and Goliath' metaphor? Guy was a slinger, Goliath was dead before he even knew it. xD
Under Labour the 45% tax rate won't bring in anything like the tax required to fund labours vast spending programs which includes promises to ensure a Bank and fast broadband in every community, a raise for public servants, more for NHS, education, refugees and all the rest. They will then start seeking tax from the rest of us. If you want to thrive under Labour, get on the sick or join a minority such as the Traveller community.
BBC is nationalised and full of high paid fat cat luvvies and a ton of staff that take loads of time off to have children at the tax payers expense. Don't think Labours new nationalised industries will keep your bills down,
Lynne Butler t'leader said it's costed. Go check.
Jesss Phillips Risky very risky 😜
Oh please boys. You'd be eaten for breakfast by either of them.
Kathy Bramley very true 😜
as time passes and i see more of these incompetent plebeian mp's i wish they bumped the pay up to attract better people. avoiding the obvious derision on her accent, what has she accomplished in her life that merits her status as an mp? had a baby? been through the school system? give me a break. put a few ex military in there over her any day and until the calibre of mp's improves, the country wont achieve its potential
You Are A Pigeon 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lord Hawhaw to Lord Snooty:... ...I am your father!
Jess Philips for prime minister of UK :)
The 2019 wasn’t a election it was a second referendum, it was Just about Brexit
To Jess Phillips: maybe if you spent more time countering right-wing media narratives instead of feeding into it, then perhaps Jeremy wouldn't be your lightning rod.
Awful woman just y Owen y ???????
Gogglebox is hilarious. And quite frankly, this whole Europe/Brexit issue is getting crashingly boring.
Uuuuurgh, not Jess Phillips. Literally the worst human being.
Alex Wilson Seems very unlikely to me!?
I hope labour wins
Please don't loose and leave me alone!!
If any good can come of Brexit and the General Election, it will be if Jess looses her seat.
lol politwinks
you were great on sky news mate. made hodges look like an establishment apologist.
JOHN HEMMING > JESS PHILLIPS!!
Naughty fade owen
Look at Owen with his rucksack. Looks like his first day at high school.
Adidas the name comes from the founders name Adolf Dassler, ironic ?
Mr Burns High School? Alright Uncle Sam.
I'm from Britain. My high school was called a high school.
Owen Jones Despite being a bit negative in the past I admire her tenacity and steel.I think she has a big future in the Labour Party.I certainly wish she was my MP rather than the ineffectual Tory in my constituency(Hendon).
Phillips and Jones : Now that'll be one left leaning love child 🤔
She'd be a massive loss to women. I wish her well
A massive loss of weight to women
The manifesto (For the many) contains a lot of things that ought to be done.
keep knocking on door and building long lasting relationships in-between elections is always the answer. I personally believe people vote for people they know and understand more than political parties
? I have stood in 5 local elections for UKIP and you are correct.
I would happily vote for Jess Phillips. If she was wrong to criticize Corbyn as leader then Labour will win the general election in June. She is committed, honest and credible. She fights for what she believes in and succeeds in representing ordinary, oppressed and disadvantaged people. No ideological notions that either won't work or won't get support - just real politics.
'If she was wrong to criticize Corbyn as leader then Labour will win the general election in June.'
On the contrary, it's precisely *because* of the efforts of people like her within the PLP to sabotage Corbyn's leadership that Labour almost certainly won't win in June.
'No ideological notions that either won't work or won't get support - just real politics.'
Corbyn's ideological notions would work a lot better and, I think you'll find, have a lot more popular support than what we've been trying for the last three-and-a-half decades or more - a set of ideological notions that manifestly haven't worked in any sense, have little popular support and which, incidentally, Jess Phillips and her Labour right-wingers cling to stubbornly.
Thank you for your reply. I agree, personally, that there is a great deal to reform in our political/economic system, however, I think where we collide is on where the responsibility lies for Corbyn's failed leadership. Just to provide some context I voted for Corbyn in the first leadership round, however soon after learned that he may not win the GE - something I couldn't believe at first! This made me question whether or not he should lead the party...
Why wouldn't other member's of Labour party, who disagree with Corbyn's far left, radical views, need to challenge him? They are representing people in the country who have no interest in such ideas as anti Trident and even anti austerity. I understand the advantage of the PLP appearing to be in support of Corbyn but I believe they consider the reality of their constituents' views, which do not in fact relate to socialism. It would be easy for Corbyn and his supporters to place responsibility away from themselves.To say that the media and other politicians are criticizing them unfairly and that most people would support them. However, its clear that the far-left membership, who elected Corbyn, do not represent the country at large - a group of people who are primarily in the centre ground of politics. To lead the Labour party to government the task is to lead both sides of the party, not just the far left.
Interesting comments about how people aren't really talking about brexit. Hopefully people are more willing to listen to the policies and issues
2 fkn doughnuts together
I don’t like when they knock on people’s doors.. it’s too intrusive
I am a non binary, Gender fluid, left handed battygirl
Happy IDAHOBIT. 🎁🎆🎆🎆
Dr Watson But don't do yourself down by calling yourself a batty girl unless you _are_ proudly reclaiming it. Probably best saved for a particular kind of space, old school humour, wrestling that toxic shit down.
Dr Watson it's not that your 'did you just assume my blender" style joke isn't funny on some level, but it's p clear you think respecting gender identity is the joke lmao
BY THE POWER OF GREYSKULLLLLLLLLL
Didnt know you were in Yardley. Hope you enjoyed it here.
By the power of grey skull???? That alone means I am absolutely voting Labour!
Ok, also extra NHS, education and social spending, re-nationalisation of failing infrastructure and utilities, reduced small business tax, banning zero-hour contracts and unpaid internships, free insulation for disabled veterans, 10k more police officers (after a 20% reduction while May was home sec, thanks), 100,000 new homes and 4k homes for the homeless... but mainly the He-Man reference.
I think as an individual MP Jess has done some great things, especially the work on domestic violence. I would like male victims like myself to at least be acknowledged that we exist in that debate, it the work she has done for female victims has been a big step forward.
Mmm. We donate half our monies raised in the non political non partisan Shipley Feminist Zealots to CALM when we deliver cake and try to keep Phillip Davies accountable in the constituency. But there's a question about whether we're looking like appeasers and diluting our message - a bit like the Labour Party and the immigration mug I think though it's never been mentioned that I have heard being outside of any party, being full of a mix of libdems, social anarchists, labour supporters, non political people and in theory any conservative anti-Davies ppl.
The Labour Party has always been supposed to be a broad church while representing the interests of "labour" - of the many in a humanised way, and also beyond the reaches of workplaces where unions can't go. And also involving a range of theorists and allies from all classes.
Philip Davies says he represents women's interests and mens interests, but he talks down bills about hospital parking charges after saying he stands up for carers (he argued it was a bad bill but there were other opportunities for scrutiny and he isn't a God in parliament, but consistently with his gambling industry links he sees his role as taking what power he can get, seeking rather ruthlessly to game the rules of parliament): despite his protestations and filibustering, the Istanbul convention specifically mentions male victims of domestic violence. The stats are still disproportionate and that's why it's giving a proportional representation to those issues, especially considering historical patriarchy. It is representative of considerable progress overall that Davies recourse against feminism is to play the equality card, badly. But that progress was not gained by the likes of him.
I don't know all the ins and outs of what's being done politically. All I know is, my boyfriend would goto church on Sundays, hear all the anti gay messages, come home, take it all out on me, then apologise the next day. On the 'final' Sunday, he decided to use a piece a skirting board and smack me round the head abit with it. When the hospital convinced me to let them call the police, the police arrived and once they established that my boyfriend wasn't as tall as me, I was told It would be advisable to learn to defend myself. I then heard the words "man up for gods sake" as they chuckled down the corridor.
So all I know is, the police didn't give a damn, only my brother did when he found out what was going on.
Adam, you put the tin lid on the thing. Male on male violence in general is much higher than male on female violence. If it's any help to you I have a gay friend whose drug addict boyfriend stabbed him in the stomach before doing a bunk. The case was handled by the Met. and despite being so messy what with a big age gap,drugs involved, he-said he-said and so on my friend had nothing but the highest praise for the cops. So maybe things are changing, or maybe my friend got lucky - but more probably because my friend is well educated and the boyfriend not so much. Class again. Any way I hope that gives you some comfort that things might not always be as bad for other people as they were for you.
So yes ALL violence needs highlighting. And poor male kids do more of it than most other people, and are the primary suffers from that violence. Primacy should NOT be given to Violence Against Women. Agreed.
Adam I'm sorry that happened to you. I am really sorry that happened.
I think it would have been better if JessPhillips had stopped talking about tribalism and gardens but instead talked about things that really matter to working class people, jobs (real jobs), the NHS, education etc...
and that
Smugness and stupidity... what can possibly go wrong.
New classic of chat up lines, wow!
When May became prime minister i saw a lot of people complaining she was unelected and wasn't doing the brexit negotiations right, now they have a chance to vote in whoever they want to do the brexit negotiations the same people are still complaining, make up your fucking minds
Objectionable this is a democracy with freedom of speech we're allowed to criticise the leader and her government you absolute
Your friendly neighborhood Nigerian price theres a guy due in court soon (might have happened already) charged with making a joke about nazis so no we don't have free speech, id like it if we did but we don't, but since you seem to be on the side of free speech your reply makes no sense, I'm allowed to say make up your minds and I never said anyone couldn't criticise anyone, I don't know what your problem is
Owen I wrote a comment 24hrs ago saying how now I am going to vote Labour. Well, now, I think am going back to the Liberals because of the referendum offer in there manifesto and there policies are still to the left. To be honest I expect to change my mind again before the 8th June.Therefore,I think it would be good if you did a video comparing Labour and Liberal policies and exploring their predicted impact on the country whilst also covering brexit territory and foreign policy. Thanks I know you put a lot of effort in your videos and you must find it hard to find to make them but I do think that would be a good topic.
I like what I've seen about Jess Phillips and her agreeable personality, but this was filmed before her party's recent Armageddon. I'll bet Brexit is coming up now.
Now they’ll be in power for at least 10 years
this didnt age well
Am I the only one who thought Owen's laughing in this video was incredibly over the top?
My ears did when I filming and editing it. That's been toned down.
do you colour grade these videos? Not trying to be rude, but always look a bit flat to me.
If I have time. I shot this one in s-log (first time I'd used it) and then wanted to give it a proper boost but was under pressure to get an edit out for the guardian. I gave it a very quick go over but didn't have enough time for a proper grade.
Did Davies hate disabled people or women or relatives/carers of the hospitalised, or anybody getting statutory help with intimate partner violence, or people in bad housing situations, foreigners, when he attacked related movements, bills and rights? He wants to help everybody escape from the tyranny of bad and unnecessarily divisive "lunatic" legislation and movements apparently! He and his supporters say so. Why wouldn't Jess Phillips on Men's Day be at least slightly the same?
Having lived basically my whole life in Birmingham, I think Jess Phillips would communicate really well with a lot of brummies. Whilst there's a place for policy wonks and ideologues - which many people watching this video might find more engaging - in Westminster, it's important to have representatives who can speak with people who don't give a crap about Karl Marx.
pjbainzo93 as someone who loves policy and economics stuff I totally agree. labour do need to shake things up, they couldn't just keep doing the same stuff. hopefully new ideas will come about
pjbainzo93 What about idealologues who haven't really given a crap about Karl Marx. He's always been one of many inspirations, with varying roles for various people. The tradition or very loose terminology of Marxism isn't at all 100% verbatim singularly interpreted fundamentalist literalist cult worship, it's progressed like most social theory. And tbh it's highly insulting and questionable, not necessarily because Marx is all crap, but it's similar to assigning all social concern or say sacrifice to Jesus, seeing Christ types in all literature: there's a conservative rhetoric by which this one partly respectable figure of leftwing historical thought is made into a hypercritical weirdly hyperbolic branding smear. It's ridiculous! And we all need to work against this high dudgeon. If Marxism is a religion it's cultish and intolerant to turn Marx into some all powerful force majure carcrash Antichrist, it's also isn't respectful of party members and people who have made a lot of inroads under that inspiration, also if it isn't a religion or cult then maybe it's high time we stop treating it like one.
pjbainzo93 We need to show respect to each other in the party, and to people and to the sanctity and reality of ideas generally: unless you don't care about unity, safety or sense. Because there's a wing of the party that's very incautious about high powered outsiders and glitz and glamour and in accepting the heirarchy narratives that do great disservice to the many. At the same time they also seem ready to give in and insult them as herding animals on stampede and listen to whatever is said uncritically without debates and negotiations with everybody. They reduce people to mugs. Sorry - couldn't resist that pun.
Hi, thanks for your comment. Apologies if my comment came across as flippant. It was only intended to illustrate that the vast majority of people are not into their political theory, and was not intended to equate all leftisit thinking with Karl Marx, although I can see how it may have come across that way. It was also not meant to be adversarial to anyone who is a fan of Marx in the slightest (myself included). im not a member of the labour party, but I agree that the labour party should be striving for unity. Apologies if my comment went against that sentiment.
1:28 labour admitting they don't want to be in power
This traitor would rather have frarage in power than corbyn
Owen, please come to the Cardiff North constituency. Possible Labour gain from the Tories if we get out there. Think a video like this in Cardiff North might convince more people like me to campaign in the seat.
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Love it. Different, which made it interesting. But got to admit I do like Jess Phillips.
stop interfering in private life that's Wat we don't like
o jeez lovely comments so far - jezza is millband + maybe 1%? nothing much wrong with manifesto - not as radical as the newspapers or jezza pretends - but it is 2017 there is a thing called the internet and people dont want to work for "bosses" anymore - so not a manifesto mostly for the future but one that pings some soundbites - good luck mately boi - just hope lovely people survive it
FAST PITTS ROAD HAHA.
Calm down Owen son.
Labour women. They always clear up the mess.
Well this didn't age well did it.
is there any value in separating those MP's that are against Corbyn from those who are against his. policies?
Simon Piotrowski Not at this stage.
Kathy Bramley true. I guess I asked the question since many of the comments below are bitterness and anger. all that being said labour manifesto is fucking great.
Simon Piotrowski 😊😊😉
Well I wouldn't employ her.
May be they have made there minds up about Brexit
Jess Phillips is such an amazing person and I wish she was the prime minister rather than Theresa May. Ms Phillips is doing such a brilliant job with her feminist views and tackling sexism against women and I commend her.
Was worried a lumbering buffooon with long hair and a moustache like myself might be more detrimental to the cause knocking on doors but now after watching this... need to do it
edited audio at 56. wonder what she actually said
Jess saying about the Labour Party being reunited whatever happens after the 2017 elections.
She couldn't have been more wrong as much as I like Jess, I couldn't support her for leadership as I don't see her as an uniter, and then the fact she stepped down from the contest, speaks volumes.
Unless I've missed one of your videos you've been rather quiet on the concept of progressive alliances. So, whaddya reckon dear Owen?
What's the future for Labour, now you know.