Is the Hyundai Elantra N 8-speed DCT a BETTER car to MOD than a 2023 Civic Type R?
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- Do YOU want to make an easy extra 100HP? This Elantra N has done just that with some mods. On the outside it looks like your stock Elantra N but under the hood there are some things that have been modded to help the 2.0L turbocharged inline-4 produce 380HP. Come go ON THROTTLE with me to see if the Hyundai Elantra N 8-speed DCT a BETTER car to MOD than a 2023 Civic Type R?
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I dont think some people bashing the N in here realize that Joe owns a type R and is unbiased enough to drive this car and give it some great praise. Look at how much fun hes having
People will bash it because they haven't ever driven it or are upset that a Hyundai can be this good
I own both a type r and the N and somthing i can say is these cars are veeery close in performance only i give honda the strenth in the motor bits
Also, people don’t realize people running the N division used to run the M division at BMW. The Hyundai/Kia/Genesis group have gone a long way. Things shifting to EV are detracting from gas performance vehichles though.
@@jordynhixson655 Exactly. Brand snobs.
@@jordynhixson655exactly. It's all the same trolls saying "but the engine will blow up" 🤦🏽
Bunch of inept fools
This thing has a better engine cover than a lot of super and luxury cars
Tell me about it!
It’s an aftermarket carbon fiber cover. Oem one is just plastic
@@jackwong93 I thought it was stock 😭 That was such a cool engine cover..
the stock one breaks off and the trunk lid too
Awesome stuff! As an Elantra N owner this makes me so happy to see you Joe give us owners a spotlight and highlight just how mod-friendly the N platform is! I will definitely follow Joel on IG. I’m so curious to know which tune he went with as that will be the next logical step in modifying mine. Thanks as always for the spectacular content Joe!
I am so glad that I could bring it to you!
Joe, I love that you are spreading the word about how good these 'N' cars are. As you know I own two of these Elantra 'N's. One is a manual and the other the DCT. Both are a blast to drive and each has it's own characteristics. I also know from your channel you own the 2023, 11th Gen Type R, so I applaud the unbiased review. I owned two 11th Gen Civic Si's and they were great but these Hyunadi's are in a class of their own. Every car has a personality, but boy, the 'N''s are the Swiss Army knife of performance sedans and cover a lot of bases for those looking for an affordable, fun performance sedan! Thanks!
Wich transmission do you recomand? I am presently an owner of a Manual MK7 GTI and the manual is soso (nothing compare to my 2004 rsx type-s i used to have)
Joel was smart to add a oil catch can, it can help keep his car on the road a bit longer. This is an amazing machine that too many people sleep on.
Thank you!
Just wait when the engine catches on fire 😂😂
@@ju4121Typical biased comment. Go drive your Corolla
O😊😅
Supposedly the cylinder head has a built-in oil catch can per se. The oil just dumps back into the crankcase
Love the N cars. I've got a similar setup in my Kona N. With some 200tw tires as well, the thing rips ridiculously hard and cuts corners *way* harder than anyone would suspect. I've done multiple runs on the Cherohala Skyway as well as Tail of the Dragon with it on a cross country toad trip having TONS of stuff strapped down in the back and room for a small camp style bed to sleep. So much fun. Too much fun, even. The Swiss Army Knife of affordable vehicles! Thanks for the awesome review. 🤙
Extra mods make a performance car better. I’ve seen plenty of sick type r’s that people mod. This is the first Elantra n that I’ve seen looks even killer with these modifications
I’m so glad you are digging this
Sonata N-line owner here 👋🏽 love my car! Pushes 290 hp and 311 tq stock. I’d say I’m at around 340-350 hp with the mods I have now (intercooler, cold air intake, BOV, & Lap3 tune). These cars are super fun and affordable!
The only downside is you do not have an LSD
@RaitisRides I agree which is why I sold my sonata n line
@@Whileweweresinners can't you just install an after market LSD?
I been on the fence which model to get Elantra N or the Sonata N line … currently have a 22 Santa Cruz
Hello I’m purchasing a 2024 Hyundai Elantra N. What stage tune do you have with those mods? 1.5?
That zonk/dead panel next to the instrument cluster is actually a phenomenal spot to put a suction cup phone holder since there isn't much space apart from the top of the dashboard to place one.
Love these reviews of Raiti's Fam cars. Takes this channel to a whole new level of engagement. Nice work, Joe. Sweet ride, Joel!
I will get more together!
I've always loved the Elantra N and I believe that it doesn't get enough praise. Of course, many people found the front end to look a little strange. Well, in the coming months, we'll soon be able to get our hands on the new facelifted Elantra N which looks a lot more confident and smoother in the front end as they took away some of the black that took up a lot of real estate on the current Elantra N.
I honestly like the way it looks in this video and not much with the facelift 😅
The new one fixes everything wrong with the old styling. What a well deserved turnaround. Now the car looks as good as it performs.
@@SVW1976have you seen it in person? I like it a lot more in person than I do in pictures. It looks weird in pictures
Doesn't get praise because Hyundai has a dog shit track record.
the old one is italian deisgned and unique the new one is just a rinse of every other car
Love seeing the extracurricular goodies people employ on their rigs. More like this! Excellent review guys!
You git it! Thanks for being so supportive!
Wow! Awesome, seemingly low cost mods to get to that number. Perhaps it does not void the warranty. A great path to power on a lower priced car.
This is cap, another guy is bearly hitting 390hp with intake, actual tune and e30 plus meth. I doubt this guy is 380 to the wheel more so crank especially on a stock intercooler when you see how thin it is.
@@MWAclanGaming 380 Hp..
To wheel I’m around 330-350.
@@7speedjoe616 I'm running basically the same setup on my KN. Which map do you usually run?
@@apexcobra.official map3 daily
And 2 map6 tunes
1. For fun runs
2. Kill map
@7speedjoe616 You your Map 3 / 6 setups octane learned or no? 91, 93, or e30 blend? I'm pretty conservative most of the time, daily is usually map 2 non-octane learned on 93 or map 4 non-octane learned with e30. Octane learned I usually run map 1 on 93 or map 3 on e30, just such a PITA for me to octane learn I only do it once every few weeks at best. I've got a few map 6 setups that I play with as well!
I will be honest, growing up from a household with two NSXs (gen one and two type R). I was very skeptical of this car when it first came out. I test drove one, and I fell in love. The car is basically a Korean civic Type R, just slightly “inferior” compared to something like an FK8. I bought one days later and now it’s been about a month since I bought it. I never regret it one bit, easily one of the most underrated enthusiast cars out there.
I Own a 23 Kona N DCT.. my god is this car a blast to drive. If you're interesting in knowing how they feel and are hesitant just go test drive one. I have the time of my life whether I'm in the car for 5 mins to grab a coffee or am travelling across the province - so fun
I love how passionate Joe about cars . It’s contagious.
I just picked up mine with a M/T in white. This car is an absolute riot
Congrats! You are so very right!
That's what the latest Type R should have been. Very glad to see Hyundai offering such a car for the enthusiast without breaking the bank. Nice mods too! +1
The Elantra N is missing widebody fender flares. The Civic Type R, GR Corolla, and Integra Type S all have widebody fender flares.
What’s what it should have been? The 13.4 quarter mile time?
@@TheBreakfastLoverOh no! My widebody fender flares! Won't somebody think of the widebody fender flares! 😂
@@TheBreakfastLoverthe N doesn't need all that when it's chassis is literally better than the type R 😂
@@SIIKAP1 More like 12.2 sec 1/4 mile... we were all doing 13.4-13.6 in 2000s with our Integra Type R (lightly moded), the current CTR is just a blothed child.
Love it!!! Great mods to keep it a sleeper style.... I have a 23 Kona N , Hyundai has come a long way in the years and keeping up with the best of the brands. Sure it maybe plastic doors and such (honestly you don't notice it when driving one) but your getting the best in the tech at a price much lower then what it competes with.
It's a shame the EVO died because everyone shat on the interior like what they expect, you're getting a 50k drive train on a 30k car
Wow that car looks like it’s very fun to drive, easy to live with, and also decent on gas.
I have a 2013 challenger 392 with the 6 speed manual, on good days I have run a 12.2 at 112mph. I imagine this Elantra N runs consistent times with the DCT transmission plus it’s a great handling car.
Awesome video Joe and Joel! I was so excited when he informed me you were doing content on his car. Maybe I can get a review on my Kona N one day
12.2 is correct. im part of the kona N fb group and people with similar mods are making that power and running in that range :) (2022 kona N owner here)
23 owner here! Nice to see you again. 😂
Don't know much about tuned cars but 100 extra HP in a car like this make me smile.
Trust me it made me smile as well!
It won’t make you smile when it blows up. If you think this car will hold up to major mods long term, not happening. It’s a Hyundai. The Type-R will hold up just fine on the other hand.
@@brenttitus2134you kiss your dog with that mouth?
@@brenttitus2134there are guys that track these things that are tuned with no issues. Car has a better warranty and performs just as well for $15k~ cheaper.
@@brenttitus2134 consider the type r already has its over heating issues and grinding issues
I’m already at 40k miles and had the tune since 1k miles been to different drag strip and track days and no issues what’s so ever. Remember Hyundai isn’t where it was a few years ago.
I’m glad they got rid of all that black in the front. It looked like you went to one of those “pick-a-part” junkyards, got the front bumper from a black car but never got around to painting it to color match the rest of your car.
The Veloster was a nice car. They could’ve turned it into a performance, rally-inspired affordable car with AWD with a hybrid/PHEV option.
I always digged the Elantra N 😂😂😂 it's a really tuned car 🚗
Hey Joel, I love what you did to the car. Good Job!😊
That’s so awesome of you to say!
Thank you!!!
What strut tower is that? Been looking for one that won't delete the stock ones.
@@7speedjoe616 your welcome!
Looks great! The stance is perfect.
You are so right David!
Very cool review Joe 👌 Very excited for the Land Cruiser unveil in 2 days 😀
It’s going to be huge!
@@RaitisRides For sure
Thanks Joe for the video and thanks to Joel for bringing his car. My nephew has stock Elantra N with the 6 speed manual and he enjoys it for what it is even though DCT is faster. I have a 2023 VW Golf R 6 speed and torque is limited to 280 by the factory while the DSG is 295. The DSG and DCT can handle more torque. If you boost power in manual clutch upgrade is needed. Joel what a fun car and know it is a risk with warranty if something breaks but seems worth it with this great performance.
It all comes down to how much power you go after.
Hot dog! Imagine what a real tune and adding just a bolt on exhaust can make in thing! Clean ride! But be careful, the mod bug sends you into the rabbit hole real quick.
That’s my boy. He knows the mod but very well. The car he had before this was the. 17 Elantra sport and it was the 7DCT and fbo+tuned
Can you really get these dyno tuned ? Even the 24 version?
This car is awesome coming from a GLI owner i see a lot of similarities but this is what a hot hatch or sedan in this case should be off the showroom floor. I think the only problem with this car is the fact that it’s a Hyundai and a lot of people won’t consider it just based off that alone compared to offerings from Honda or Volkswagen
I own an IS38 GLI and honestly I'd prob trade straight up for a DCT EN
I firmly believe Hyundai and Kia are at a place now that Honda and Toyota were at in the 90s. Within 10 years they'll be go-to car brands.
My first car was a 2013 Elantra. Damn Hyundai has come a long ways!!
Joe just needs to get one already. He's reviewed the elentra n like 6x lol. Everytime he has the biggest smile on his face. I just got my elentra n last week. Sent it off for tints, roof wrap, ppf and ceramic coating.
The DCT is no joke and the most common transmission with the Elantra N. So rad you can get one with a manual. Glad to see manufacturers still offering fun 3 pedal cars, but that number is dwindling.
This is super true!
My Type R is making 355 hp and torque to the wheels with an off the shelf tune, intake, intercooler, charge pipes, acuity radiator hoses, downpipe, prl street maf sensor housing, hasport 62a rear motor mount, front pipe, and exhaust with muffler delete. Also fitting Michelin pilot sport 4s 295 30 19's all the way around. So yeah that Hyundai is impressive, I'm hoping with a pro tune I'll be closer to 410 to the wheels. I have a lot of cooling mods like the fog light covers are mesh, I upgraded the front grill to the fully mesh one as well.
Great review
Amazing time for the 1/4 considering it’s front wheel drive.
Must of hooked good on that run
ahhh my boy joelllllll what a birthday present for him forever apart of history‼️
Nice car. I got in march, a 23 dct same color with aftermarket 18" wheels. Currently has 1,400 miles. I rarely drive it, since i do food deliveries on a mirage 😊
I love your On Throttle reactions, pure enjoyment in your face!!!
It’s amazing how humble joe Raiti is. 😊😊😊 god bless you brother.
I had the same reaction in the sonata N not sure what was done to it but every shift had A turbo noise how quick it is puts A smile on your face 😅
I was just like 1 hour ago side by side with à GTI the guy rolled down his windows and said to me nice tune! I said to him im stock haha just bov intake and turbo inlet he was 😮
That’s so freaking awesome!
@@RaitisRides Thanks Jo!
Does the dct stock push you back into your seat? And keep up with other cars on the road?
@@Rururu-ci5dl yep 1 and 2nd gear keep you it the sit im running with ac off at 15 psi and love the car so far.
This is a great video. Cheap thrills. Laughing all the way down the road. 380HP? That'll do.
I like the way that you think!
That N is a beast
Absolutely love my veloster N , wish it stayed with us long enough to get all the new bells and whistles that the Elantra N is getting now.
Hey Joe, Great review as always! I’ve owned a couple of Type Rs and have to admit that I at times am tempted to buy an Elantra N. My only concern is the long term reliability/dealer warranty experience but the many online reviews where some of the pickiest reviewers are just giggling on track because how good this car is! The insane markup for the R and Type S just makes a stronger argument to buy a very close competitor…with a DSG option! What’s not to love!!!😁👍
I know how you feel. Thank you for sharing that great ownership info.
This and the Forte Gt are my top picks for next car 🤤
I would go THIS all day long!
I have a 2023 Forte GT2 😎🔥 and I did the same mods that he did to his Elantra N and also lowered the suspension and changed the cat back exhaust and the delete pipe and my car gain 100 HP too but you have to remember the Kia Forte comes with 201 HP , 195 lbs of torque while the Elantra N comes with 276 HP , 289 lb of torque that's a big difference between these 2 cars when you are working on doing modifications in your car plus the Elantra N has that limited slip differential and the Kia doesn't !
the Kia Forte GT is cheaper than the Elantra N
Forte GT is mild, Any of the Ns are wild
@@boygonewhoopdataZZthe GT is like 5-10 k cheaper
@@boygonewhoopdataZZGT is more comparable to the n-line
Elantra N is easily my fav budget car best value period!
12:22 “Joel” lol🤣🤣🤣
Absolutely love the elentra n, hoping one day to get the 6 speed shift, if only it didn't have a markup price
Fingers crossed you can get one.
I love that car even without those mods, I love it!
So very cool man!
I'm still happier with the manual. I drove a DCT for a test before buying mine. But the whole point was that I wanted a stick so that I can be involved in the driving experience.
Also, the son of the original CEO of Hyundai took over like 15 years ago, and stated, outright, that both Hyundai and KIA were going to be the top companies in the US. Did not disappoint.
Not sure it was mentioned in the video, but where did he get the badge for the side skirt? That looks really good. would also know how he installed it.
Yeah I feel the same way about it!
Was just looking for this car on this channel, and here it is lol
It is serendipity
Good job Joe and Joel..! I have a new love for this car.....respect the N!!!
Hi, Joe, this was an awesome review as always I like to watch different car reviews I'm learning a lot about the cars watching your review however Joel has done incredible work on this Hyundai N model I will appreciate 380 hp and curb weight 3313 pounds 6 speed Manual DCT which is amazing thanks
You are so very welcome!
Hyundai is killing the Civic SI with this one. Awesome little car!
You know it!
You are so right, the Honda Si right now here in Canada is about 46,000 dollars dealers marking them up still. I can get a 2023 EN for 39,000? WTF? The EN is way more car than the Si and runs circles around it. I do love my 2020 Si with the manual and dampers but they removes those in the new Si. I really want a manual but i drove the DCT and wow it is quick for sure. There are 4 so far 23’s here still and 24’s should be here by the end of the month. Type R is 72,000 and there are 2 of them at dealers with a 24,000 mark up. Honda dealers are just plain bad!
I was waiting for someone to do this but being a Hyundai of course it took a little time cause Honda mods will always come first, nice work 💯 well done
Joel did an awesome job!
I was gonna say a 12.8 but 12.2 is a sleeper
Big time
I’m a Cyber Gray N guy too, I cancel my M240i X all because my son let me drove his N-Line one day and from your first review. This thing handles like my old BMW 335is…Thanks for your review
You choose this over the bmw m240i??…
Cyber Gray*
Beats the R/T (345) in a roll race lol. Great car for the price !!! Sounds really good stock.
You are so very worth it!
Oh wow, that ain't bad.
@@ayyo5971the EN dcts eat R/T’s from a roll stock. Octane learned they beat fl5 type R’s and are able to hang with scat packs until 110-120mph
Joe is the best in the business...
Thanks fir having my back Steven!
I got my Elantra N a year ago and I’m wanting to start modding it, after watching this I’m even more tempted 😂 I’m new to car modding so any suggestions would be amazing!
Does it push you back into your seat when you accelerate?
street and track performance 👍, fun 👍, price 👍, suitability for every day use 👍.
Very good points for sure!
Great review. Kudos to the owner Joel. Beautiful car and mods.
Thanks for letting share it with you!
I got my elantra n last week and I’ve loved every second of it!
I love the color too………love sleepers…….they are more fun without all the badges all over, IMO.
I like the way that you think
the days are coming soon the N catching M and AMG'S
Great job Joel, Joe you should do more modded reviews.
Thanks for the feedback! Will do!
I would highly consider this over a type R.
I drove an fk8 and FL5 CTR and walked away with my 23’ cyber grey Elantra N. It really is the better car
@@ctcdarkness what metrics are you using to gauge a better car other than subjectivity? A type R beats this car for it’s intended purpose-autocross style of racing. They prolly have very similar space, too. Type R has a better engine and is much more tunable.
I don’t own a type R but that statement is Ludacris ! Either you can’t get one of afford one. And this is coming from a GR owner!
I would pick this car over the Civic Type R anyday.
I’m glad you like it Brian
@@RaitisRides Its Brandon actually!
You bombing the exact same back roads i take in My N makes me want to do these mods now haha. Wouldn't be surprised if we drive past each other on throttle one of these days lol. You definitely influenced my decision to get the N too
Love the color and this thing is a rocket!
It really gets up and goes
Hey Joe I really like the car especially the veloster n
I like the way you think!
@@RaitisRides Thanks
He has the engine cover that I want. Just haven’t got around to buying it yet. This is my mod list. Currently making 405hp which is 350whp
N Door Striker Covers
Ceramic Tint
Hood Strut
Matte Black Emblems
Black AVANTE letters
Floor Pivot Throttle Pedal
High Pressure Fuel Pump
SXTH Oil Cap
SXTH Oil Catch Can
SXTH Engine Mount
SXTH BOV
Piersburg BOV Solenoid
SXTH CPLT Intake
SXTH Turbo Inlet
SXTH Catted Downpipe
SXTH Intercooler
MBRP Cat Back Exhaust
Lap3 1.5 Tune
12.2 @ 116 😮🙌
I know right!
Corvette goes by EXACTLY when Joe references a Corvette 19:50 🤔
Perfecting timing
...a pink Corvette too 🩷
Finally a rveiew of a tuned/modded EN. This car is a sleeper. Yea its not the fastest but speed aint eveything you still wouldnt expect an elantra to sound and move as quick as this does. 16k miles on my EN DCT
great sleeper build and video,,,,joe ,, joel did a great job with the N,,,,,thanks guys like that dct too
Had a 2013 Elantra, now I have a 2016 Azera limited. Love N division
I’m a Honda fan. But I’m extremely impressed with the N!! The sound is much more impressive than the R. Probably my next car and over $10k left in my savings account.
Pumping out videos everyday love it keep up the great work
I drove my brothers n line last week to pick him up from the airport I fell in love with it now I might get the n myself 👍
I'd pick a N over a type r anyday. Way more fun. More money in the wallet for another car.
That is one way to look at it for sure!
definitely sound 100x better than the Honda civic type R.
100% 💥
missing my N on Kona all the time in the street and vally hairpins corner
guy owner of N knows what to articulate in reinforceing the lacking of something in N. become a twice more monstrous N. Congratulations !!!
Thanks for sharing that insight!
12.2? Wow. 30 yrs ago, not even all the crappy exotics were doing that!
This is so very true!
Hyundai N is so underrated. Low 12's on a track prepped surface? That's madness. I have a newfound respect for this car. Still not in love with the styling but its definitely not as polarizing as BMW M cars lately.
There's some running high 11's as well tuned with stock engine and turbo.
Joe this channel is amazing man
That is so awesome of you to say!
not surprised at all wit the power. The i30N is a similar beast that can be easily modded to insane lengths
The clutches in the DCT are the limiting factor in the N. They seem to check out around 375whp coming from people who are pushing them that hard. An E85 tune if a fuel pump solution becomes available, with a catless DP and turbo inlet/intake would be as far as i would push this car. It would be plenty fast.
Thanks for sharing that great info!
It has plenty of power anyway. Honestly, getting the power to the ground more effectively would be a better goal. Lighter wheels, and a better engine mount seem to do wonders.
I know a guy who only has a catless dp intake stage 2 and meth and he’s pushing 400whp
@@OfficalVVClips Yeah nah. Has he had this 400whp monster to the track and what was the trap speed? Dyno's lie but the track never does.
@@benglasby8014 I have just lower mount bushings and that made a night and day difference by eliminating the hop.
Moving the emblem in the front jus gives it a great look
Elantra N, Kona N, velo N, Sonata N are just phenomenal cars. Hyundai is killing it.
Theirs no sonata N
@@Stryk3out this is "technically sonatas N. Trust me I have 2 of these cars. I know it's a Sonata N line, but this is there N version.
Funniest thing ever I’m eating lunch and I can’t stop hearing my name in the video
Now my perfect car I want to buy someday.
Dream big my friend!
Hyundai needs to offer a coupe... They used to have a cool 2 door coupe called the Tiburon back in the late 90s.
Great job , great description, I'm gonna see it the N elantra and see what happens. May be buy one in this color. Thanks for great video
Thanks for letting me bring it to you!
In puerro Rico there is white N Elantra same as that one the guy ran 12.15@122mph don’t know the mod also a N veloster. that became the world fastest veloster N 1/4 time 11.22@126
Oh wow that is fantastic!
Don’t forget the “Pony” Big Joe! 😂 many brake stands in high school ,, oh yes, many.
never saw you soooo happy test driving a car sure you enjoyed it