VW ID.3 WINTER RANGE TEST - A MUST KNOW! | 58kWh Pro Life Performance.
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This week I'm going to see how the far the ID.3 58kWh Pro Life Performance really goes when the weather turns.
Will it get anywhere near is WLTP range of 263 miles?
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Use the centre display: look for the graphic of the car (labelled ‘Vehicle,’) and then select Charging (the top option.)
This will give you a battery percentage.
You're a good presenter, very watchable indeed, thank you.
Simple rule for me for a return trip..
1- Start at 100%
2- if you arrive at a destination with more than 60% don't worry about return.
3 - if 50- 60% drive considerably more eco !
4 - plan to charge!
Thanks for this honest, no unnecessary road footage, range review/discussion. As a 52 kWh Zoe owner over two years, my data is very similar, but lower. Summer, I get 4.1 miles per kwh on local roads between 30 and 60 mph. Winter? Despite heated seats, heated steering wheel and good cabin heat from the heat-pump, it's only 3.5 or less. Increase speed to 70 mph and the range drops, so you feel like the poor relation with a nervous twitch as you fret about having sufficient charge to get there. Not cool! Until they close most petrol stations and/or remove the EV charging dead spots, nationally, I'm loving my ICE Honda Accord at 48 MPG on the motorway. We're in EV Phase One. Phase Two will see bigger range, better batteries with fewer minerals, more reliable, quicker charging points and, heavens above, cheaper EVs as China wipes that smug grin off the insincere face of legacy motor manufacturers. Thanks.
I do think China will rinse us in the west on prices - no way will we get their prices! Looking at Nio and such in Norway, the prices are very high still, even with zero VAT! MG prices are still good, though better if you're a nurse etc, new ZS EV about £7k cheaper than equivalent Niro! But they need to electrify their '3' model etc, for my custom!
I really love that car.🙏🏽I wish they would give us a chance at it here in the U.S. it would come in handy for my city driving. 😭🤦🏾♀️ Great content as well good job. 🙂👍🏾
I think although new EV drivers may want to “know” how many miles they have left, as you say, after owning an EV for a while, % is far more useful. As far as seasonal range is concerned, between the worst and best I’ve had on the exact same 150 mile (up to Lincs coincidentally) journey in a BMW i3, it’s closer to 30% in total for me. This is with adaptive cc set to 70 and approx 75% of the journey on motorways. We are talking close to freezing, rain, very wet roads, some headwind etc, but still, that 30% difference may come as a big surprise to anyone who bought an EV in the Summer and is used to optimum range.
My worst case with ICE on 500km is, that usually I arrive with 1/4 of tank, but once there was super strong wind and I was empty 100km before 😂 I still can't comprehend how that happened.
Excellent channel. As an EV driver myself, you can bang on till the cows come home about what range you should or shouldn’t get, but you only really know once you’ve put a few real trips under your belt.
Love this guys delivery - I was wondering, when I try and do an economy run I get the best out of my ICE car by driving at around 50-55mph on a run - often with a touch of tailgating trucks haha - shouldnt be too dangerous with adaptive cruise on. I wouldnt normally drive at that speed but published best MPG's always seem to be quoted at that speed. I've not yet seen a review anywhere on an ID3 that trys to try at its most economic speed. Whatever WLTP is supposed to be, surely it should be possible to get close to that figure - however impractical for day to day driving that may be.
@timemachine_194 Ok thats great, thank you - I dont have a problem driving at 56 if necc, and certainly if I need the range - Good to know the WLTP figures are achievable though, most reviewers mock those numbers but usually expect it to do the WLTP MPG whilst trying to check out fast handling, rapid acceleration and heavy braking - it can't happen under those circumstances.
Wltp is a mix of speeds and not all highway. We dont get a wltp highway which would be useful for planning trips. More realistic.
@@anderspersson6134 Oh I see, I did wonder. The review on Battery Life channel mentioned on here was very good though, he was able to get the published figures and a bit more by using mostly steady slower speed. The published ranges are constantly brought into question or seriously discounted in reviews and they refer to WLTP figures "but then in the real world expect....." I imagine a very high proportion of range anxiety will come from people on a fairly long journey, probably dual carriageway/motorway situation - certainly for vehicles capable in theory of 200 miles plus. Round town stuff I imagine is a lot less anxious as its mostly local and probably within couple of miles of a charger if need be. So, if I need to range extend I'm mostly interested on whats the most I can safely wring out of the battery and arrive in a reasonable time - 56mph ish sounds like a reasonable figure, keeps up with trucks legal speed and much better economy than 70
It is downhill from the north of England when travelling south.
Going north is up hill. Simples.
My range in id3 58 kw at -15 celsius temperature is 260-290 km it depends how fast you drive. Summer range 330-400 km in +20 celsius.
I don't have these problems with my Mercedes diesel 😁
Keep on putting out the fumes on the world 🌍 with a
Diesel
If you use ABRP and feed it with live data from an OBD dongle, it will predict the consumption and range based on the route (elevation, speed, etc) and weather (temperature, wind, with the Pro version), rather than just give some guesstimate based on previous consumption like the car does. Ultimately, the car should do this by itself, but until that happens: ABRP is the way to go.
I’m finding very similar effects in my 64kWh e-Niro. Summer figures generally between 4.2 and 4.8 mi/kWh, 4.4 being the figure at which it’ll achieve the claimed 282 miles. Winter has seen that drop to between 3.5 and 3.8 (depending very much on type of driving, as motorways do so much worse than back roads or urban driving).
I always hated winter just because it’s cold and wet and bloody miserable, but now that it effectively shrinks my “fuel tank” by 15% as well I’ve even more reason to loathe the season!
In winter short trips can be worse, if your heating the car for a few miles then letting it go cold again, before returning and doing the same. it can really drag the efficiency down.
You can access the charging screen you show at the end at any time for battery %, it would be better on the driving screen at all times, but it is always available for you to check.
well done...no flat bed of shame....ha. we have had shocking range in our zoé this winter...bad enough to keep us in our local safe zone only.. pre heating the batttery while on charge at home woukd be a good idea...renault don't really give you enough information to know if that happens... your id3 looks nice....it looks bigger ...longer than a golf? enjoyed your film. cheers EV fellow driver.
Strictly factual content, facts relevant to someone who wants Real Info about using this EV, on those roads, in that weather: Check! Percentage remaining is better than "predicted miles": Check! Charging anxiety not Range anxiety: Check! A car that gets 'only' 200 miles range will be perfectly viable - when the Charging Infrastructure is ubiquitous, reliable, easy to use, and universally pay-by-debit-card. Certainly not the case Up North. For the next several years the only safe full BEV to buy is going to be a Tesla, because they are the only manufacturer that thought about, and solved, the how do you charge it away from home? problem.
Meantime I'm driving a PHEV.
Great video, I’m not sure I’d be as brave as you! You can see the battery % on the app or in the car choose “vehicle” then “charging”. Battery % displayed is coming in V3 software. Also, VW tries to keep the traction battery above 13 degrees C so under that you waste energy keeping the battery warm, V3 software lowers this threshold so the car should be better in colder weather (fix not coming until spring 🤦🏻♂️).
@timemachine_194 funny you should say that, my ID3 heats my battery to 13 degrees C someone on the ID3 owners Facebook page shown his only heats to 6 degrees C. Maybe it’s a newer car (Mine is March 2021 build)? Yes we’re all waiting for the service campaign and 2.4 software before we get 3.0 OTA 🤞🏻
How does that affect performance of the batteries? I thought Lithium ion batteries didn't like having a lot of current draw at zero degrees or was that just charging?
@@CED99 You are right. To help with this VW have a “buffer” at zero displayed so your not actually at zero, I think if you drive it until it stops there is still 2kwh’s left in the traction battery. If you drove 100% to zero a lot it wouldn’t be great for the battery but you would still be able to claim on the 8 year warranty if you had any issues.
I never again buy a Volkswagen! This cars are just overpriced crap!
Excellent test showing REAL usage. Did you travel at 70 mph or 60 mph?
Thanks! 70mph on the A1.
@@SteveJulien Hi. Wow thanks at last some one doing REAL driving tests as a lot of range tests are done at 60 miles per hour.
I've owned an ID3 for about 9 months now. During the summer the range is great. I charge to 80 % and mostly drive small roads at 80 km/h or below, and can get over 400 km. On rare motorway runs I'd say closer to 250 km. However, the winter range is perhaps 300 km on slower driving and maybe less than 200 km on highway (again, charged to 80 %). The numbers are estimates, I haven't done a real range test. This is at temperatures of around 0 C, with winter tyres, at somewhat hilly terrain with occasional snow on the road. The car uses quite a bit of energy for the battery heater and especially many short trips in the winter increase the average consumption. The winter range could be better, but it's not too bad.
Thanks for the info! Which is your battery size?
Agree the ID.3 is terrible in the winter even with heatpump. My odo is now over 60000 km counting various stays at the dealer caused by breakdowns and semi breakdowns - last time almost 3 weeks for a new main UI computer to be replaced.
The car is very nice and comfortable also on the highway and the summer range really fine. I don't know how it is possible for VW to do such a terrible job on quality and winter range but they just have.
Now this is my wife's car - i have a model 3 2019 without heatpump. Sure it suffers range loss in the winter but actually at a lower level than the ID.3 and the quality issues i have had now for 2,5 years with the Tesla are fewer and non of them have rendered the car useless.
It will be the last time I buy a VW. There is no German quality or engineering in that car and it is not worth the sticker price.
@@florianbappler7242 58 kWh, the mid-size battery
Golf with bigger battery 😭 I just prefer the interior of the golf more. iD looks nice from outside tho
Then 77kWH is where to go then ! I think from what I have read it is possibly more reassuring to opt for the larger battery option if available and pay for the difference in ££ rather nail biting .
If you need the miles and are happy with just 4 seats then the largest battery is a good choice.
I’d need a change of trousers with what you had left😵💫🙄👍🏼
£20000 dearer than my wifes new petrol Polo which on a similar run would average 60mpg
I have to agree. The current Polos are very nice. My wife also has one (with DSG on account of her arthritis). At the price, it's a really good car, and an nice drive too.
You can get a 200bhp 58kwh ID3 Life model for £30k. It comes with lots of standard kit.
Which SW Version do Your Car have? I heard, with SW newer then 2.3 You will “win” around 50km!
Hi, this was on 2.X so fingers crossed for 3!
I think range should be taken with a pinch of salt. Tested on rollers with no wind resistance. No wipers . No radio. No lights.... in real life in winter
Nice video, first of yours I've seen. I've had an ID.4 for nearly a year and love it... apart from the software! It's improving slowly but OTA updates which were promised every 3 months have been scarce (only had 1 since delivery). On a 4 year lease, so unless VW get it right I'll be looking elsewhere in 3 yes.
Great video but tbh this did nothing whatsoever to persuade me to buy an EV! My range anxiety nerves just couldn’t take it. petrol or diesel for me or even a hybrid until I can no longer buy one or charging an EV gets down to the same time as filling a petrol or diesel tank or there is a charging station around every corner.
Glad you enjoyed it!
There is an obsessive focus on long journeys in these tests. Important but I would like to know how far I can go between charges on urban style trips where the majority of my trips are not at high speed. Would also be interesting to compare performance up/down the M1 versus A1 where A1 has lots of roundabouts and slower speed limits in many places than M1 but is a bit shorter when going say Hemel Hempstead to York.
You’re right, not many people document their 30 mile commute for the week for instance.
You’ve given me an idea, fill up Sunday night and see how the week goes! Cheers!
There seems to be a common misconception among non EV owners that you need to spend hours charging mid-journey if you run low on juice. In reality I have only ever stopped for 10-15 mins to top up with what I need. The dog is usually grateful too.
100%!
i do wonder if EV batteries have some kind of safety distance in them which is not common knowledge because I ran my E2008 down to zero returning home and it still got me home without issue or dramas despite showing zero miles (yes I wont be doing that again lol)
Good test, but that's too damn close a call for my liking. He's right, you wouldn't even think about it in an ICE car, but in an EV range (or charger) anxiety is very real, even more so on a longer trip you've never done before - you've no idea about chargers, availability, reliability, charging speed etc - you can't just 'go' and not think about it. I also seriously doubt an ID.3 holds a candle to a Tesla Model S, especially with their SuperCharger network.
Percentage display may be coming with v3 of the software which is planned to be released this year!
It is coming in v3 and they suppose to be fixing the battery heater to not be so aggressive so it doesn't heat up the battery even if the car is only going 2 miles down the road wasting a kw or 2, hopefully be out in the next few months.
+1 sub, like your style bud. Waiting for my ID3 at the moment, you may not be aware but VW are in a mess with ID3 orders, huge delays, order now and you’ll be waiting a year for delivery. Existing orders keep getting pushed, mine is going to be 6 months longer than originally given 🙄
Great video, and just subscribed on the back of it. My ID3 Life Pro Performance arrives March, and will be our first EV. Videos like this really help so thank you,
200 miles with possible anxiety added and care needed...... No wonder people are not jumping on EVs.. A town commute vehicle great (but expensive) but go on any journey and with family/luggage what would it be then? 150 miles?
I’ve got a range test coming next month with 400kgs of weight in the car.
For really long journeys, I normally just schedule charging stops with coffee or meal breaks.
Works really well for us most of the time.
@@SteveJulien thanks for the update on the test.. I drive often to Germany from Eastern France.. About 700km each way.. 500 miles.. We do about 100mph average speed on the Autobahn.. With less than 200 mile range with passengers and luggage we would spend more time stopped and charging than driving....
Looking forward to the test in any case....
We have a Fiat 500e..the % is shown along with the range permanently.
Thanks good to listen to you.It is a shame people will have this range of anxiety and we shouldn't have.There is enough to worry about for most people and getting to your destination should be the least of it.The technology has to improve before many people will take the plunge into a E.V Charging points where they are positioned and availability.
You can't swap to battery percentage in the display yet... what you can do is go into the trip menu to see the percentage. If the temps were below 9c the battery heater does it thing and you will be lucky to reach 3mi/kwh. We probably average 2.6 in winter. The ID3 is much quieter and softer than the model 3 on 18" wheels. Model 3 seems to have mostly road noise though.. smooth road its quite quiet.
Excellent video - really informative. Agree 100% about Charger Anxiety being a better description than range anxiety. I was seriously considering an EV (I went hybrid in the end) and I was obsessively checking Zap Map to see how many chargers were actually working and where they are. Petrol station type availability with chargers then I'd make the transition - I won't be changing cars for another 3 years at least so it will be interesting to see what the situation is then.
Is 58kw the usable battery? Or total battery in these id3?
Usable.
Hi Steve, do you drive on D or B? I don't really notice a difference in range.
Hi!
I normally use D for faster roads and B for city driving.
Nice car, I’m saving for a Tesla Model 3 LR, when they have the 4680 batteries in them. Else I think charger anxiety’ will drive be insane.
It's the lr isn't too bad in the UK there's not many places you can't go on a full charge and there are plenty of chargers. You learn pretty quickly what works for you some people eek out the full battery others when it dips under 50%. With 3 children wife and luggage heating on and not being careful with my right foot it will do 250 in winter.
Flatbed of shame 😂
Nice video but for time being will stick with my skoda 1.0 tsi 400 plus miles to a tank full. Returns 50 to 60 mpg.
Love your car videos Steve, keep them coming! What software version do you have on the ID3?
Thanks!
I think it was 2. Something.
I will NOT buy an car of any description if it only has a 200 miles range. 400+ miles yes, 200 miles no!!
I understand that battery percentage will be constantly displayed with Software update 3.0 by OTA by VW in the Spring of 2022
I have a Seat Mii EV. It does not display percentage SOC, but rather, remaining range in miles.
It is an ongoing frustration I have with what is a generally good all round car. The only place that shows SOC is in the phone app, which is accurate to…10% 😂
I’ve just done a 144 mile round trip with 3 people in the car and 4-5c outside, starting with 100% charge (“254 miles”!). And we returned home with ‘47 miles’ left. So I make that realistically around 175 miles possible.
I found myself too often stuck in a heavy blizzard, with two small children on the back seat. Luckily my parking heater consumes very little diesel, so I was able to keep my family warm until a snow plower came along to help us out from the grasp of the chilling cold.
Im not sure if I ever would like to experience anything like that in an EV.
If the automotive world (except KIA, Honda and Toyota) would wake up to hydrogen technology then there would be no need to mine cadmium (the CAD in Ni-CAD batteries) which is carcinogenic and a finite resource like oil and gas. Hydrogen production produces oxygen as a waste product, and hydrogen fuel exhaust is water. Isn't this a constantly renewable energy source? Also, I believe that petrol/diesel/LPG engines can be converted to use hydrogen, so imagine the benefits to consumers worldwide.
I think VW must have listened to you. I picked up my id3 a week ago and it has % up all the time now.
Excellent!
Issues like this should NOT be a surprise to anyone buying a new car. After all they did even the most basic homework FIRST.
Perhaps not?
I have a 77kwh version I have been getting between 260 to 230 miles range since October real shame as I often use it all and have to charge In the services which costs more than charging at home
What people don’t realise with these electric cars is, if you fill a combustion engine car up with petrol or diesel that’s it. Will be there forever! Full tank, half full, whatever! Ain’t so with electric! Fully charge it and leave it for a few weeks, half the charge will disappear! Comes as a shock to most people that! It’s obvious that the technology for these batteries isn’t good enough yet. It will be, but not yet! Cannot understand why hybrids are being killed off so soon frankly
Did VW ever update the software to show the battery percentage permanently on the drivers cluster? Shame a heat pump is not standard on the ID3.
It’s about time the U.K. brought back there own car tests on range the eu one is just Micky mouse made up that are utterly impossible to achieve, ironic Given the new wltp ratings are supposed to fix are just as. Ad as ever yet epa are totally achievable or just off by 5 or 10 miles compared to over 50 - 70 on eu testing it shouldn’t be allowed as for the guess o meter I can’t understand why bmw and Mercedes and the Korean brands can get it tight yet Nissan and vw leave you in limbos half the time
To expensive and to much hassle, constantly wondering am I gonna get home or not wouldn't bother unless gauranteed 600-500 mile range on full charge , waste of money buy diesel 2 mins to fill up and not wasting at least 30 mins of your life every time you gotta charge up you will never get that time back life is short don't waste it
Thanks for being honest Steve. 198 miles is a hell of a lot less than 263 miles, yes I know winter but as you said 12 degrees. For me that would be worrying.
Really helpful and well done video. Many thanks.
You can se % in the "entertainment" screen - under vehicle :D You will get % with the update 3.0.. Thanks for the review!
That was a bit hairy eh?! But it's really good that the remaining range was accurate and didn't let you down. 😅
The Toyota Yaris Cross do 100mpg with a 350miles range and a recharge of 2 minutes..
We’ve just taken delivery of a few ID3s at work - I must admit I’d be tempted when my Model 3 goes back in a couple of years. However, who knows what the future will bring?! Great vid. That’s very good efficiency given the current temperatures. I’m getting about 280-290 wh/mile in my Model 3 at the mo.
That's about 3.5 miles/kWh to keep the units the same
Did you consider turning off the climate control? Welcome home and thanks for the great video
Wait, what? I don't think on big wheels you feel bumps "more" but rather "less"...
That was great for me. I live in Lincs and often drive south A1 M11 and i want to go EV.
Ngl I've been debating about an electric car ... My only problem 😅😅 I go on the motorway a fair bit all year round summer or winter
Losing about 30 percent with my car at about zero degrees.
I drive a school run in a VW Tiguan 2ltr petrol car, 2mils round trip. I wonder what mpg I get?
I have an ID.3 Tour Pro S with 77kWh.
My ‘worst’ performance yet with the batteries was from Fife Ice Arena, after an ice hockey match, to York - at night, temperatures around 1º to 3º Celsius, and with rain in a few places. Total distance: 235 miles.
The WLTP range for my car is 342 miles. I completed the journey with 3% battery left, having driven the last 100 miles with the heaters off and cruising at 60mph on motorways and 50mph on A roads.
Also - I have to agree that it is a joy to drive.
I traded in a Tiguan R for my ID.3, and definitely bought a more comfortable long distance cruiser.
The 170 mile round trip for home matches is an absolute doddle. No need to recharge.
thats pretty impressive with rain and low temps like that. Ive just got my Tour Pro S three weeks ago and its awesome, averaging 270 miles on 100% charge, although the weather has been fairly mild for the time of year.
Yeah you are absolutely right.👍 Prefer the percentage shown in the instrument cluster behind the wheel all the time. The km/mile guesstimate is after all just that. A guess. Great video keep it up👍👍👍
Comfort be damned - always go for the biggest wheels :)
Got 20s on my M3P and definitely worth it!
I do love big wheels! M3LR videos coming soon.
@@SteveJulien sweet - it's good content - thank you!
Whilst it looks poor I do prefer the ride on the m3 lr with aeros over the performance 20s (plus I'm sure I'd kurb them at some point haha)
ID.3 💖
Another useful vid. Looking at the 58kwh version when my egolf lease is up later this year. Keep up the good work mate 🙂
Steve you are a natural. Move over Clarkson, Tiff (can’t remember his surname) and that chap Wilson (can’t remember his christian name). Enjoyed the video and you should have your own tv program. Top notch. In fact how is that for the name of the show: Top Notch.
Seriously great stuff!
haha, thanks John!
Ev's are crap in cold weather unfortunately
What if a diversion came up and one didn’t have enough range to cover the diversion… oh oh
Another very interesting video, Steve. Thanks. But . . . I've never forgotten your dad's 'review' of the Tesla (absolutely hilarious) and got quite excited when you mentioned you were on your way to see him. This is going to be a classic, I thought to myself, until I eventually realised he wasn't even going to be given a cameo role. Disappointed doesn't even begin to describe how I'm feeling now 😢. How could you do this to us, Steve? Really? And I thought you were one of the good guys . . . 😭. Just a bit of fun, Steve - and thanks for another really enjoyable EV video. Cheers!
Haha, you’re right, I did think about including him, I will next time 😂.
#DudleyTheLegend
VW has more know-how in the ride quality department. I tried the top end ID.4 GTX with 299 HP and it absolutely strikes a near perfect balance between dynamics and comfort (with the standard 20" wheels), as opposed to the Tesla Model Y which is a quite harsh ride on anything but perfect roads.
There is no such thing as a perfect balance between dynamics and comfort. It is all personal preference, what is perfect for you might not be perfect for me.
@@whatever-xw8cw Well, I don't think so, It's important to let people know about this, as many order the Model Y without trying it first and get surprised by the harsh ride (not even the performance version).
I'm telling you, Tesla has to up their game, for the long run. In the near term there is a shortage of good EV's and Tesla will have no problems selling all they can produce, but once that shortage is fixed, it could become a problem with so few models and options.
@@curioussand1339 Of course you should be aware of what you are buying, but what is too harsh of a ride for you might be a perfect balance for someone else and vice versa.
By the way, I am not a Tesla fan boy. It is just a general observation.
Good overview of battery performance - Thanks 🚗
One of the many benefits of becoming an EV driver is how much it improves your ability to do on-the-spot mental arithmetic calculations out of pure necessity.
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Great content, I have a company car on order so this has helped
Hi Steve, I'm a new subscriber, thanks for this excellent video.
Sorry if you have been asked this question before, can you confirm the cost of the run to London and back? Kind regards Danny
Thanks!
I use Octopus Go so it was about £3 in total.
Details of how it works here, although their day rate has gone up.
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Really enjoyed watching this! I’m also really curious what the battery degradation will be like, for example repeating this test when the car is >5/6 years old to see what any range loss will be. Otherwise, really great video! 👍👍
Very little if it has been charged sympathetically. ie charge to 80% unless just setting off on long journey, don't discharge below 20% too often and try and buy an EV with LFP batteries.
They are less energy dense but have much longer cycle life. IMHO if you followed that maxim you are talking about a battery that would have a realistic life of over 500,000 miles, so probably longer than the rest of the car.
Tesla are going back to LFP battery and other manufacturers use them, short range MG ZS and M5 I think but maybe not the newer long range versions. Certainly the yet to be launched Hyundai Ionic 3 and Kia EV 4 will use LFP batteries as will a lot of the Chinese offerings we will see here in time (hopefully). They are 20% to 30% cheaper but more reliable over time. That being said I don't have huge reservations about NMC batteries just know that LFP will last longer.
If your dealer can't tell you the battery chemistry of their vehicles go to another dealer. Hope that helps. In my experience the life of your battery should not be a consideration at all.
Hit the nail on the head. Needs battery percentage
A wet road will decrease range as you have less friction, also, another big impact is the direction of wind, you’ll be amazed the impact this can have.
Wet roads reduce range as tyres have to do work to "pump" out the water to prevent you from hydroplaning
I'll stick to my current car and not have to worry about percentages or Kilo- hours, which happens to be a Fiesta Active 1 ltr Turbo with a range when full of fuel of just under 400 miles.
@timemachine_194 Presume you mean Petrol Panic and I have to admit filling my tank to maximum the week before and seeing all the queues of idiots jamming up lines of traffic as they waited to refuel - in fact I know someone made a video outside the very store I was shopping at for food. But I survived as did most folks I know and car sharing is the thing - so no individual journeys and its fun.
This was a very informative video! Thanks for the test. I'm glad you didnt get stranded somewhere on the road.
Glad you liked it!
Just found your channel
great video I will go for a ev
next time.i like the seat mii
electric for a city car.
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Hi Steve, I think this is the first of your vids I've seen and I really enjoyed it. It was full of genuine info and your presenting style is most enjoyable.
One thing that surprised me about the ID 3 though was it's range, in reasonable temps - 190-ish miles from a 54 kw/hr battery seems a bit modest doesn't it ? My MG ZS gives me - in 0° temps - on average 170 watts per kilometer (272 watts per mile, so just under 4 miles per kw). In more mild temps - bought the car last sept so haven't had a summer with her yet - I average 150 watts per kilometer.
Steve what’s the other car on your drive
hello I 've got id3 's very good car
A good demonstration of range anxiety! What was not clear was what the wind direction/speed was, which affects almost all cars. At motorway speeds air resistance accounts for about two thirds of the total amount of energy used, with the headwind/tailwind added to road speed, so it can make a big difference. I often do east/west day trips which can be around 10% different in each direction re fuel consumption. Other weather issues affect it too - rainfall, road surface etc - but the wind is the main factor.
Given that air resistance is related to the square of the speed (1/2 mv2), whereas rolling resistance is related only to the ground speed, slowing down a bit can have a useful effect when you’re running short of energy, either in the tank or in a battery.
The 77Kwh model is just as bad
By the way, here's the thing about "Miles per Kilowatt": If you want to ride an aerodynamic bicycle at 30mph, you will need about 300 watts of output. So if you can sustain it, 1KwH will give you about 3.3 miles. If you have a car that is getting better than 3.3 M/KwH, that is stonkingly good, as the 1.5 ton car is more efficient than the 0.1 ton cyclist.
Charging anxiety! Dead right. For those of us with no possibility of home charging, and a pathetically inadequate / unreliable public network EVs just aren’t a realistic option.
To say this is pretty impressive 👍🏿