Wore this today and am just in awe of how beautiful and practical it is!!! So glad I purchased this lone model half off when a business in my local mall was closing!!! WIN! (i have the all black, purple dial, limited ed)
I have two of these, a GMT and the baby blue regular one. They are an amazing value for the money and are amongst my favorites, and the movements are basically COSC-level accurate. One issue I think they need to work on is quality control, which I am sure they will figure out, but these are small batch watches and they come with a little "character". For example, on my GMT, the bezel is ever so slightly mis-aligned. You won't notice it at a glance, but it does become apparent when you try to match up the GMT arrow to the hour number. Also, there is a crimp or smudge on the second hand that is only apparent with certain kinds of light. On my baby blue one, the face is perfect, but the engraving on the back around the movement window is very clearly misaligned. Some work to be done, but still totally worth it.
Yeah, I've heard not all are perfect. It is unfortunate I know Joedy from @justomemorewatch got a gmt with alignment issues I got lucky, and mine is perfect Thanks for your comment!!! 🍺🍺🍺
Nice review. I picked up one of these about a year and a half ago. Checks off a lot of boxes. Dial is the belle of the ball. Really eye-catching. Mine is a bit more accurate than yours so there is variation. Can definitely be adjusted but let your watch-maker do it. I have received a lot of nice comments on it. My biggest disappointment is the lack of a screw-down crown. Why would Seiko not put a screw-down crown on this piece. It’s more of a sport watch than a dress watch. if it had a screwdown crown, it would truly be my every day go to watch.
Brian! So happy to hear that yours turned out So good Believe it or not, the timekeeping on mine has gotten better 😆 I love this watch so much It's still one of my favorites You are right about the screw-down Crown That would have put this watch on another level Like an elegant alpinist/Ranger/explorer Cheers to you, my friend 🍺 thanks for taking the time to leave a comment 🙏🏼
I have a Mido Ocean Star GMT. A lot of bang for the buck. It came with a strap and bracelet. Shortly after I purchased it it had to be repaired. Timegrapher is showing great numbers. 0 sec/day in the dial up position with a beat error of 0.0 . Having said that, this Seiko really caught my eye. I’m going to my local Seiko dealer to check it out in person. You mentioned that the watch may be regulated for better timegrapher numbers. I too would be hesitant to do it on a watch like this, although I have done it on all my vintage and not so vintage Seiko divers. It’s not difficult to do if you have a scope and a lot of patients. I have been able to regulate my old 6309s and 7s26 divers to within a few seconds per day, dial up. My Seiko dealer has agreed to take my new watches back if the timegrapher results are not acceptable. So far they all have been ok. I think Seiko could do better with the beat error though. It just takes time. But time is money.
Hey Dood! So happy to hear you are enjoying your Mido (even after having to get it repaired) and that you might check out the Seiko They are both excellent watches and different enough to make it worth owning both if you can swing it I do agree with you that beat error could be better in Seiko's movements With that said, as long as you can reduce the max time-keeping difference between the slowest and fastest positions, increasing the beat error up to .8 .7 on the Seiko is not terrible Anyway, thanks for the comment. Let me know what you think about the Seiko if you do get to see it in person 🍺
I have not :( I felt more comfortable taking the Mido Ocean Star GMT to the pool last summer. I took it on a family vacation to Vegas, and the Mido did great at the pool 😅 You should be able to swim with it, but since you asked me if I had done so I figured I would be honest and tell you I choose not to swim with this Seiko 😅
I’ve looked at this watch on and off. The strange date, as you said is really hard to read and that is one thing that really stops me from purchasing it. Also, the lack of a screw-down crown while not a dealbreaker doesn’t help the functionality for me. All of my other watches are diver’s so the Presage would definitely be a dressier occasion watch. Great overview, thank you for sharing your thoughts on the watch!
I've given up on being able to read the date on this watch, but I do think the complication is pretty, even if not functional I do agree with you that the screw-down crown would have taken this watch to another level tho Thanks for the comment! Have a fantastic day!!!
@@LosNTimeI bought it, it’s a lot darker than in the photos, the orange almost a washed out salmon colour. Other than that keeping great time- bracelet a bit tinny, either too loose or too tight In the uk it retails at £1365, as mentioned I paid £599. Doesn’t feel like a £1365 watch, I feel my Alpinist has better build quality but I’ll see how I get with it. If not I’ll sell it for what I paid. It’s one of my cheaper watches so I might be biased.
Hey there! The orange might look a bit more salmon, especially the GMT hand. Unfortunately, I don't have mine on hand right now as I'm in the process of moving to Portland, Oregon. By the way, last October, I picked up an alpinist SPB121. I think the presage GMT SPB217 feels like a more luxurious offering than the SPB121. To me, it feels more expensive, but that's just my personal take on it. In my opinion, the movement of the GMT is also more exciting and refined than the alpinist movement; the fact that it is one of the few 4hz movements Seiko offers at this range doesn't hurt either :) Anyway, I hope you grow to love the watch, but if it doesn't end up vibing with you, selling it for something more exciting is the right move. You got it at such a low price that I'm sure you will be able to move it with little effort if you do decide that it's not for you. Keep me posted on your journey! I love mine, even though I don't get as much wrist time since I picked up my zenith. 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
So instead of giving you the same lazy answer based on time grapher measurements from a year ago I pulled out the watches and the time grapher and ran all new measurements As of today, I can tell you the Seiko 6r64 is incredibly more accurate Over six positions, the max time deviation is +10 seconds per day With an average of +4 seconds across all six positions With some regulation, this watch has the potential of running around +-1 spd due to its very low max spread across all positions The Mido on the time grapher is a bit of a mess, with beat errors running as high as 1 ms. The max deviation across all positions is as high as -14 Average performance was -6 seconds per day across six positions The thing with the mido powermatic is that positional difference is all over the place, and regulation, while not impossible, is much more risky and complicated, which means that the likely hood of improving performance through regulation is unlikely With that said, the mido runs excellent on the wrist But according to my time grapher, the seiko has a vastly superior movement Hope this helps
You only have to wind it if you don't wear it for a few days If I wind it enough to get going (power reserve partially complete) and I wear it for a day, the power reserve will be full towards the end of the day So if you wear it, it should be winding itself If the watch is losing power as you are wearing it (look at the power indicator ), then there might be something wrong with yours
I bought the watch somewhat based on your Mido vs Seiko GMT Video. I was stuck between the Mido and the Seiko. Cant say i regret it :D Its a perfect edc match for me, fits my style ect. How do you wash or clean the Seiko? Would be an interesting video aswell maybe. Really enjoy your content, keep it up. Greetings from Germany
Dood!!! Thats awesome!!! I can't say that I clean my watches But sometimes I use a bit of peg wood to clean debries, and sweat builds up and Microfiber to remove oil on the crystal But I'll have to do some research on the subject See if there are some better ways Thanks for the comment 🍺
@@LosNTime I got a good deal on the black one, so i went with this one. Would have liked the blue one aswell, but im still happy with it. Looks awesome in direct sunlight, especually the complecations. For cleaning, i just hold it under lukewarm tapwater and rinse it gently. Works quite well.
This watch is driving me nuts. The crown catches all the time and pulls out as it is not a screw down crown. The watch is stopped so often it is pointless wearing it. Worst watch I have ever owned.
Yeah, I don't think it is either Not in the traditional sense I would call it a “dressy” sports watch Thanks for the comment. I hope you enjoyed the video 🍺
Wore this today and am just in awe of how beautiful and practical it is!!! So glad I purchased this lone model half off when a business in my local mall was closing!!! WIN! (i have the all black, purple dial, limited ed)
Oh yeah! The black with purple dial is pretty unique!!! Congrats! and thank you for sharing your story
I have two of these, a GMT and the baby blue regular one. They are an amazing value for the money and are amongst my favorites, and the movements are basically COSC-level accurate. One issue I think they need to work on is quality control, which I am sure they will figure out, but these are small batch watches and they come with a little "character". For example, on my GMT, the bezel is ever so slightly mis-aligned. You won't notice it at a glance, but it does become apparent when you try to match up the GMT arrow to the hour number. Also, there is a crimp or smudge on the second hand that is only apparent with certain kinds of light. On my baby blue one, the face is perfect, but the engraving on the back around the movement window is very clearly misaligned. Some work to be done, but still totally worth it.
Yeah,
I've heard not all are perfect. It is unfortunate
I know Joedy from @justomemorewatch got a gmt with alignment issues
I got lucky, and mine is perfect
Thanks for your comment!!! 🍺🍺🍺
Nice review.
I picked up one of these about a year and a half ago. Checks off a lot of boxes. Dial is the belle of the ball. Really eye-catching. Mine is a bit more accurate than yours so there is variation. Can definitely be adjusted but let your watch-maker do it.
I have received a lot of nice comments on it. My biggest disappointment is the lack of a screw-down crown. Why would Seiko not put a screw-down crown on this piece. It’s more of a sport watch than a dress watch. if it had a screwdown crown, it would truly be my every day go to watch.
Brian!
So happy to hear that yours turned out So good
Believe it or not, the timekeeping on mine has gotten better 😆
I love this watch so much
It's still one of my favorites
You are right about the screw-down Crown
That would have put this watch on another level
Like an elegant alpinist/Ranger/explorer
Cheers to you, my friend 🍺 thanks for taking the time to leave a comment 🙏🏼
I have exactly the same and I must say it’s super cool. Thanks for the review!
Hey! Thank you so much for the comment
I'm glad you agree, and that your ownership experience has been as good as mine!
Cheers!
🍺🍺🍺🍺
I have a Mido Ocean Star GMT. A lot of bang for the buck. It came with a strap and bracelet. Shortly after I purchased it it had to be repaired. Timegrapher is showing great numbers. 0 sec/day in the dial up position with a beat error of 0.0 .
Having said that, this Seiko really caught my eye. I’m going to my local Seiko dealer to check it out in person.
You mentioned that the watch may be regulated for better timegrapher numbers. I too would be hesitant to do it on a watch like this, although I have done it on all my vintage and not so vintage Seiko divers. It’s not difficult to do if you have a scope and a lot of patients. I have been able to regulate my old 6309s and 7s26 divers to within a few seconds per day, dial up. My Seiko dealer has agreed to take my new watches back if the timegrapher results are not acceptable. So far they all have been ok. I think Seiko could do better with the beat error though. It just takes time. But time is money.
Hey Dood!
So happy to hear you are enjoying your Mido (even after having to get it repaired) and that you might check out the Seiko
They are both excellent watches and different enough to make it worth owning both if you can swing it
I do agree with you that beat error could be better in Seiko's movements
With that said, as long as you can reduce the max time-keeping difference between the slowest and fastest positions, increasing the beat error up to .8 .7 on the Seiko is not terrible
Anyway, thanks for the comment. Let me know what you think about the Seiko if you do get to see it in person 🍺
i just bought this watch a week ago it’s awesome. love it to wear it to work, looks ver elegant and classy
So happy for you
I definitely love mine
🍺
@@LosNTime thanks i cant help but looking at it every time 😂 but like you said the polishing isnt perfect, ive found some specks on my date dial
Hi! Have you swum in it? Is it good?
I have not :(
I felt more comfortable taking the Mido Ocean Star GMT to the pool last summer. I took it on a family vacation to Vegas, and the Mido did great at the pool 😅
You should be able to swim with it, but since you asked me if I had done so
I figured I would be honest and tell you I choose not to swim with this Seiko 😅
I’ve looked at this watch on and off. The strange date, as you said is really hard to read and that is one thing that really stops me from purchasing it. Also, the lack of a screw-down crown while not a dealbreaker doesn’t help the functionality for me. All of my other watches are diver’s so the Presage would definitely be a dressier occasion watch. Great overview, thank you for sharing your thoughts on the watch!
I've given up on being able to read the date on this watch, but I do think the complication is pretty, even if not functional
I do agree with you that the screw-down crown would have taken this watch to another level tho
Thanks for the comment! Have a fantastic day!!!
@@LosNTime All three watches in the lineup are striking, and the fact that they are Seiko’s only travelers GMT is really something.
@@alma175w I agree 💯
Been offered this for $765 all in, what do you think
Sounds like a good deal!!! What’s the condition?
@@LosNTime new.
That sounds really good to me
It’s a great watch
What’s your gut telling you?
@@LosNTimeI bought it, it’s a lot darker than in the photos, the orange almost a washed out salmon colour. Other than that keeping great time- bracelet a bit tinny, either too loose or too tight In the uk it retails at £1365, as mentioned I paid £599. Doesn’t feel like a £1365 watch, I feel my Alpinist has better build quality but I’ll see how I get with it. If not I’ll sell it for what I paid. It’s one of my cheaper watches so I might be biased.
Hey there!
The orange might look a bit more salmon, especially the GMT hand. Unfortunately, I don't have mine on hand right now as I'm in the process of moving to Portland, Oregon. By the way, last October, I picked up an alpinist SPB121.
I think the presage GMT SPB217 feels like a more luxurious offering than the SPB121. To me, it feels more expensive, but that's just my personal take on it.
In my opinion, the movement of the GMT is also more exciting and refined than the alpinist movement; the fact that it is one of the few 4hz movements Seiko offers at this range doesn't hurt either :)
Anyway, I hope you grow to love the watch, but if it doesn't end up vibing with you, selling it for something more exciting is the right move. You got it at such a low price that I'm sure you will be able to move it with little effort if you do decide that it's not for you.
Keep me posted on your journey! I love mine, even though I don't get as much wrist time since I picked up my zenith.
🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺
How about the watch accuracy ? I heard it is not as good as Mido GMT. Thanks
So instead of giving you the same lazy answer based on time grapher measurements from a year ago
I pulled out the watches and the time grapher and ran all new measurements
As of today, I can tell you the Seiko 6r64 is incredibly more accurate
Over six positions, the max time deviation is +10 seconds per day
With an average of +4 seconds across all six positions
With some regulation, this watch has the potential of running around +-1 spd due to its very low max spread across all positions
The Mido on the time grapher is a bit of a mess, with beat errors running as high as 1 ms. The max deviation across all positions is as high as -14
Average performance was -6 seconds per day across six positions
The thing with the mido powermatic is that positional difference is all over the place, and regulation, while not impossible, is much more risky and complicated, which means that the likely hood of improving performance through regulation is unlikely
With that said, the mido runs excellent on the wrist
But according to my time grapher, the seiko has a vastly superior movement
Hope this helps
I have this watch, but if it’s an automatic, why do you have to wind it?
You only have to wind it if you don't wear it for a few days
If I wind it enough to get going (power reserve partially complete) and I wear it for a day, the power reserve will be full towards the end of the day
So if you wear it, it should be winding itself
If the watch is losing power as you are wearing it (look at the power indicator ), then there might be something wrong with yours
Looks super tight on your wrist….isn’t that uncomfortable? There is one micro adjustment on the clasp.
I do wear it tight, but I like that better than loose
I was not able to get the perfect fit on this one 🥹
But still, I love it!!!!
@@LosNTime i bought it yesterday at the airport….absolutely love it
@OkiDingo congrats! It is such a great watch!
I hope you enjoy it in good health for many years 🍺🍔
The only thing is no date. A GMT with no date is kind of partially finished
It does have a date
It's a lolly pop style dare that's the dial at six o'clock
Thanks for leaving a comment
I really appreciate it 😎
You're so right thank you!! My mistake , I feel better now
@@mjhastings4534glad I could help!
Thanks for watching the video 🍔🍺
@@LosNTime my pleasure. Thank you for your content
bro nice videos and content , keep it up , i see a sucsess here ..... stay legit that what makes you different , chears
Thank you 🙏🏼
Comments like this are awesome
I truly appreciate you taking the time
I bought the watch somewhat based on your Mido vs Seiko GMT Video.
I was stuck between the Mido and the Seiko.
Cant say i regret it :D
Its a perfect edc match for me, fits my style ect.
How do you wash or clean the Seiko?
Would be an interesting video aswell maybe.
Really enjoy your content, keep it up.
Greetings from Germany
Dood!!!
Thats awesome!!!
I can't say that I clean my watches
But sometimes I use a bit of peg wood to clean debries, and sweat builds up and
Microfiber to remove oil on the crystal
But I'll have to do some research on the subject
See if there are some better ways
Thanks for the comment
🍺
By the way what color did you get?
@@LosNTime
I got a good deal on the black one, so i went with this one.
Would have liked the blue one aswell, but im still happy with it.
Looks awesome in direct sunlight, especually the complecations.
For cleaning, i just hold it under lukewarm tapwater and rinse it gently.
Works quite well.
@@LezegoGoGo that's a great tip! Thanks for sharing that!
the black one is great, and the white dial is also so damn good!!!
This watch is driving me nuts. The crown catches all the time and pulls out as it is not a screw down crown. The watch is stopped so often it is pointless wearing it. Worst watch I have ever owned.
Oh mam
I'm sorry that's been your experience
I daily mine, and it's been great
However, if I had the same experience, I would be pretty upset
Not really a dress watch tbh
Yeah, I don't think it is either
Not in the traditional sense
I would call it a “dressy” sports watch
Thanks for the comment. I hope you enjoyed the video 🍺
Sure doesnt look like a tool watch. It looks a lot more elegant than a typical dive watch to me
@@jasons2562I agree. It is definitely more of a dressy sports watch 🍺
Thanks for commenting 🤙🏼