KTM 890 Duke R v Triumph Street Triple RS

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @hokagereece9653
    @hokagereece9653 4 года назад +798

    It’s a shame Baron wasn’t there to ride the triple, because he loves running on 3 cylinders.

  • @mineshallnotbeinfringed9676
    @mineshallnotbeinfringed9676 4 года назад +204

    This old guy is RUclips gold. :)

    • @kmc7355
      @kmc7355 4 года назад +12

      Did you see the best crash video with Al and Mossy. Highly recommended ruclips.net/video/jsecYWALQEg/видео.html

    • @kignacio
      @kignacio 4 года назад +5

      Look at their Yamaha Tenere 700 review. He talks about shitting on the floor of his house 😂

    • @expatbiker6598
      @expatbiker6598 4 года назад +8

      Mossy is a legend.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket 4 года назад +1

      I think this old review is one of my favorites of Mossy. ruclips.net/video/Bbg4uA9IXyk/видео.html

    • @jamesryan2990
      @jamesryan2990 3 года назад

      @@kignacio 2

  • @FortyFourTeeth
    @FortyFourTeeth  4 года назад +143

    Nigel

  • @bramzwaan9118
    @bramzwaan9118 Год назад +5

    i got the 890r with full akrapovich i did ride now 8000km with it and its just a mental bike, wheelys and torque everywhere

    • @valebliz
      @valebliz Месяц назад

      As long as it doesn't shit its top end...

  • @Jaffa1951
    @Jaffa1951 4 года назад +53

    Call me Mr Boring - or Nigel - But i think I'd have the Triple every time.
    Good review. BTW. Nice to see Mossy again.

  • @edtechlounge
    @edtechlounge 4 года назад +117

    wait a second, what happened at 21:30 isn't circling the top comments - It's like watching a newborn dear get its legs.

    • @FortyFourTeeth
      @FortyFourTeeth  4 года назад +59

      Pretend crashing. It’s a new thing

    • @afroaliens
      @afroaliens 4 года назад +1

      @@FortyFourTeeth sounds like a instagram thing...

    • @Mikolaj_u
      @Mikolaj_u 4 года назад +2

      @@afroaliens or like a tikcock.. pardon, tiktok challenge

    • @mrgreen9388
      @mrgreen9388 4 года назад +1

      @@afroaliens what's Instagram?

    • @notcomplicit7982
      @notcomplicit7982 4 года назад +1

      @@FortyFourTeeth i saw it.. i saw you pucker and squeeze 👍🏼

  • @liamshah797
    @liamshah797 4 года назад +44

    immobiliser failure was a big problem for the 790 as well. Happened on mine and needed all rewiring with a new loom on warranty. Tends to go hand in hand with cornering ABS failure too which is fun :| I'm swapping my 790 for the Street Triple, just for the reliability.

    • @MaxRay16
      @MaxRay16 4 года назад +4

      I have a 2020 Street Triple RS and it has been flawless for over 7500 miles in put on it already! Fantastic bike but the Bluetooth module isn't the greatest but it will get better with time. The only real problem I've had is a small oil weep on the right engine case but that will be covered by warranty to fix it over the winter when I can't ride. I had a 2013 before that and it was great, one of my favorite bikes out there and all my friends that have rode it wish they haven't because now they want one lol

    • @pgkr67
      @pgkr67 3 года назад +5

      @@MaxRay16 So not entirely flawless then..

  • @jaseleese7549
    @jaseleese7549 4 года назад +10

    Absolutely right. Traded in my GSXR 1000 for a Ducati 950 Hypermotard. ( After watching 44 teeth's review) And never looked back, on the road the super naked is so much more usable and fun than a 175 mph super bike

  • @stuartmitchell87
    @stuartmitchell87 4 года назад +67

    The Nigel in me thinks the triumph will be more reliable as mechanically.

  • @theavangelist
    @theavangelist 4 года назад +48

    The conversations are so different between you 3 and i think it's wonderful. Totally engrossed and excited to get outside

  • @oldman748
    @oldman748 4 года назад +26

    I gave up my r1m an bought the ktm 690 smc r massive fun every ride out and can still surprise the bigger bikes on the country roads.

    • @Ukmongoose3
      @Ukmongoose3 4 года назад

      I have one of these, down a tooth at the front, up 2 at the back, PCV and pipe, goes very well indeed with 73hp/53lbft.

    • @megapet777
      @megapet777 4 года назад

      Really? I'm afriad if I try 1000cc bike I can't go back on lower CC bikes anymore

    • @Ukmongoose3
      @Ukmongoose3 4 года назад

      You need both...... but my 690 is a weapon on twistys. No chance on the straight, but that’s cheating!

    • @megapet777
      @megapet777 4 года назад

      @@Ukmongoose3 Yep, in the end you need multiple bikes :D

    • @Ukmongoose3
      @Ukmongoose3 4 года назад +1

      Honestly, if you know how to ride a 690, you will baffle people on more powerful bikes. They are real disruptors!

  • @GigaChrist
    @GigaChrist 4 года назад +17

    After riding a 765 Street for about 6k miles, it does sometimes ruin other bikes for me. It's so controlled and refined that I often hop on friends bikes and immediately notice the smallest issues with suspension, ride, or clutch feel.

    • @dannygernaat9961
      @dannygernaat9961 3 года назад +1

      Compared to my blade there is no feel in the clutch on the Street.
      But the rest of the bike is perfect, love the Street in the corners

  • @ShezzerNator175
    @ShezzerNator175 4 года назад +44

    Only thing that pisses me off is having to pay extra for KTM to unlock features that are already there in the bike. I’m surprised the adjustable suspension doesn’t have little KTM padlocks on them that you have to pay to be removed.

    • @nicholaskemp2451
      @nicholaskemp2451 4 года назад +9

      KTM stands for Keep Taking Money.

    • @brentcameron4494
      @brentcameron4494 4 года назад +3

      Triumph do the same thing. But they call it the "S", the "R" and the "RS".

    • @ShezzerNator175
      @ShezzerNator175 4 года назад +3

      @@brentcameron4494 That’s exactly my point, Triumph are not charging you for something already on the bike. The quick shifter and electronics are already there on the base model just locked.

    • @brentcameron4494
      @brentcameron4494 4 года назад

      @@ShezzerNator175 So how do you unlock them?

    • @ShezzerNator175
      @ShezzerNator175 4 года назад +4

      @@brentcameron4494 You pay for the “Performance package” aka plug it into a computer and it activates. I see your struggling with this one. Imagine buying a house with a room that’s completely locked. You can have the House for this much but if you want this extra room it will cost you an extra ‘x’ amount. The house already has the room so chances are you’re going to pay the ‘x’ amount regardless of how much it is. It’s a psychological sales tactic. You can’t just buy an aftermarket quick shifter, you have to buy the “package” with all the other electronic aids for a higher overall price. Triumph give you 3 options for the bike, that only come with what you pay for.

  • @raunakpansare
    @raunakpansare 4 года назад +11

    Bikes, 2 lads and twisty roads life is sorted !!!!
    Not to forget that awesome sounding triumph triple

  • @KX-500
    @KX-500 4 года назад +59

    I’m loving the Triumph sorry guys..🇬🇧✌🏻👍🏻🏁🏁

    • @freebehindbars8654
      @freebehindbars8654 3 года назад +1

      Bc you’ve never ridden the 890R. I traded my Triumph, which I loved, for a 2021 890R. I wish I could’ve kept both, but definitely made the right decision. Best bike I’ve ever ridden, much less owned.

    • @czwinerman0714
      @czwinerman0714 8 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve just ridden 890 gt and sorry but the new triple rs is goat for me rn especially in that comparison
      However, it’s always personal.

    • @Akkiben
      @Akkiben Месяц назад

      No twin could better a Triple.

  • @trevormj
    @trevormj 4 года назад +39

    Good photography and editing - well done. Usual bollocks talked, but that's what we want.

  • @mikyGTT
    @mikyGTT 4 года назад +31

    The scenery and roads look epic ! The Triumph soundtrack is addictive ... oh yeah and your video is good ha ha ! Thank you gents, content over click bait any day.
    P.s. Keep the Nigel description of bikes as a running joke !

  • @cp4512
    @cp4512 4 года назад +24

    I tested them both. The Triumph is a bit more of an all rounder, and it can sure excite when you stretch the revs and want it to. The KTM lacks when you don’t want to be ‘on it’ all the time and the looks don’t do it for me. Both great bikes, but I put my money down on the Triumph.

  • @buddybleeyes
    @buddybleeyes 4 года назад +19

    Street rs is my next bike for sure, might take a few years but I've loved them since the 2010 model I think it was

    • @JT-op4rl
      @JT-op4rl 4 года назад

      Same here mate!

    • @MaxRay16
      @MaxRay16 4 года назад +1

      It is definitely one of my favorite bikes that I've ever ridden. I had a 2013 Street Triple R and now have a 2020 Street Triple RS that I've put a wonderful 7500+ miles on. All my friends hate to ride it because it makes them want to get one lol

  • @primitivemass
    @primitivemass 4 года назад +30

    I just picked up my new 2019 Street Triple RS so I guess I'm a bit of a Nigel 😂 cheers Mossy!
    Have to say I definitely agree that the RS needs a better paint job, for me there's just not enough visually to differentiate between the R, the S and the RS.

    • @anthonylynn1969
      @anthonylynn1969 4 года назад

      Is it a UK bike or Malaysian, I personally wouldn't buy one after how they have treated the UK employees

    • @Addy29plus5
      @Addy29plus5 4 года назад

      anth lynn they have been built in Thailand for yonks

    • @BernardsSumner
      @BernardsSumner 4 года назад

      Only the fancy factory custom bikes are being built in Blighty these days. One of my pals is a design engineer at Triumph and they've been fucked since covid.

    • @kignacio
      @kignacio 4 года назад

      Alfred the Great like we shouldn’t count on seeing all new models? I’ve been waiting for a Speed Twin With R suspension 😆 I thought Covid would have had them working overtime at home on their computers 🤓

  • @raprunner
    @raprunner 4 года назад +14

    Mossy is mega. Great rider but even more amazing one-liners. More Mossy please.

  • @jackalster77
    @jackalster77 4 года назад +24

    Ridden both extensively - that refinement on the triple engine, high speed stability, exhaust bark after 8K rpm and supple ride, just all so much better. If you can have only one bike, which you will ride around town as well and not ONLY canyon carving and track racing, Triumph, for me, is hands down the better bike.

    • @xorbe2
      @xorbe2 3 года назад +3

      After looking at the 765 and Duke 890, what you do is buy the new Speed Triple 1200 RS.

    • @wfujay3946
      @wfujay3946 3 года назад +1

      Which is exactly why I bought mine. The things they were faulting the RS for were the exact things I WANTED and the pros they were giving to the 890 were cons to me and why I didn't buy it. Weird review.

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite 2 года назад

      Yeah, for me I might up-scale to the Speed Triple vs the Super Duke. Both are visual knockouts, though to me the Speed looks a bit dated. Not cool retro like say the Kawi RS, but just 90s. I still don't know if I'm buying anything, though. Gettin' up in years and down in earnings (retired).

  • @אלכסנחשונוב-פ5ע
    @אלכסנחשונוב-פ5ע 4 года назад +2

    the only channel where they will not accept "on the fence" answers, keep it up guys👌

  • @darthvisor9289
    @darthvisor9289 4 года назад +8

    Even though i am Austrian and this is kind of blasphemy here, i would pick the STR over the Duke any day. Love my 2010 which has already 63000km on the clock. What an awesome bike!

    • @zareff
      @zareff 4 года назад +2

      cheers to that kind of milage

  • @future62
    @future62 4 года назад +2

    Cinematography on this is amazing. I agree that the power these bikes make is just about perfect. There was a time where liter bikes only put down another 10-20RWHP. Roads haven't got twice as long, so something's gotta give.

    • @KutWrite
      @KutWrite 2 года назад

      Yes. Those stills, the intercuts with the goats and scenery really added artistry to this fun review. Your guy Massey is a hoot, though it took me a few minutes to "get" his (to me) accent. Fun guys I'd love to 'ave a pint with.

  • @Showmetheevidence-
    @Showmetheevidence- 4 года назад +7

    I like both these bikes... but man the sound that triple makes is SO damn good!
    Yet my heart says “buy the 890”.

  • @viowithcrailtap
    @viowithcrailtap 4 года назад +2

    I get what you guys are saying.
    I've got a 2010 675 and it's quite snatchy and rough around the edges but I love it. It's got character (plus the twin underseat pipes sound incredible).
    The 2020 one is now a super techy and refined bike which I think Triumph have done to satisfy new riders with it being predictable/ safe but still having enough oomph to keep people happy.
    I love the new one but I would struggle to get rid of my 2010 for a 2020.

  • @SweDownhill
    @SweDownhill 4 года назад +3

    I wish there was an official way to mount those 2020 Street Triple RS headlights on my 2017 version.. The eyebrow looking leds is a big improvement!

  • @DB-so8zc
    @DB-so8zc 4 года назад +2

    Awesome comparison of the two bikes. Mossy is quite the character and adds a good vibe with his sense of humor and expertise that in no way sound pretentious. Question though, were the goats saying " Al" during the interview? :) Always great stuff from 44T! Cheers from the US!

  • @lifeofpike3912
    @lifeofpike3912 4 года назад +1

    Being a Somerset boy I have been biking on that stretch of road in porlock many times , some great roads in Somerset and Dorset , another great video lads

  • @abellopes15
    @abellopes15 4 года назад

    Two good crashers together, was expecting a badly timed stoppie. Seriously, thank you. So good to have you back!

  • @charliedowzell8622
    @charliedowzell8622 4 года назад

    Clicked the link because I saw the thumbnail and thought "I'm *sure* that's Porlock Weir..." Was not disappointed! Been a longtime wathcer of your content gents, thanks for the review (and the unseasonably late comment...!)

  • @mackeycharli256
    @mackeycharli256 4 года назад +8

    I thought that was my 3 month old crying while I was trying to watch this. Got up 3 times 🤣

  • @xerxesdog
    @xerxesdog 4 года назад +14

    Triumph always looks and feels like premium in everything from top end components to almost artistic finish. Ktm on the other hand still looks like budget bike. I owned triple 765 R so yeh I’m biased but whatever. I could recommend that bike all day over and over and over again without hesitation..

  • @Streamlines
    @Streamlines 4 года назад +10

    The Triumph has the unfortunate 'issue' of having a bit too long of gearing. You two were talking about how lethargic it feels, and I have to agree, on my 2019 ST-RS it felt the same on stock gearing, it always took a bit to get up in revs. However, all of that changed when I put a 15 tooth front sprocket on it. Feels like the bike was originally designed with that sprocket in mind. Always ready to go now, no lag.

    • @heibaimao
      @heibaimao 3 года назад

      Will it affect the odo reading? What did u do to fix that?

    • @Streamlines
      @Streamlines 3 года назад

      @@heibaimao Yes, but to my knowledge only so little that it doesn't make a significant difference.

  • @sheruwalia7450
    @sheruwalia7450 4 года назад +14

    Nigel here.
    I'll take extra whip and two cherries on my temple.
    CheeRS.

  • @Lagdoo
    @Lagdoo 4 года назад +4

    Last year I had a test ride with Duke790R and it didn't feel like a well put bike. The engine was too aggressive, whenever you touch the throttle it was pulling right away but also when you leave the throttle engine compression making it feel like you are hard breaking all the time. The throttle was like an ON/OFF button which you definitely don't want it when you are cornering.
    Even though I raced motocross and supermoto which I enjoyed that torque of a 1 cylinder, I didn't like the Duke as a street naked. I think KTM still has this DNA of a motocross bike which is more like boxing where it focuses on explosive power delivery. I think road racing and street performance is more like ballet. It's more about smooth movement and precision. That's why I bought Street Triple S last year and I love that machine a lot. The powerband is smooth in every rev, it sounds amazing, corners amazing, material quality amazing and most importantly it's not a machine constantly wants to kill you, its a machine cooperates with you to go further faster.

  • @nobby2709
    @nobby2709 4 года назад +1

    Always forget Al lives just up the road from me. It’s always fun seeing some of my local roads on your videos!

  • @ZspotMotorsport
    @ZspotMotorsport 4 года назад

    Stunning scenery in this video, boys. Whoever was in charge of setting up the static shots did a great job with the locations. Ace video, as always.

  • @mortorv2030
    @mortorv2030 4 года назад +3

    The quality has gone up another level on this one. Well done lads. I'd take the Triumph ;)

  • @wolfurine
    @wolfurine 4 года назад +2

    Top video lads - awesome review, locations, editing & banter (and of course Mossy on top form)!!! 👍👊

  • @ragerider6283
    @ragerider6283 4 года назад +6

    Great vid & review, best I've seen of these two so far. I prefer the KTM at face value but I wonder if it's all or nothing full on personality would get a bit wearing after a while where as the Triumph is a bit more Jekyll & Hyde & can be both civilised or a hooligan if you want too.

  • @brandonhenery1831
    @brandonhenery1831 4 года назад

    So good to see a father and son having a ride together and having a chat over some bikes being ridden.

  • @mikeachoy
    @mikeachoy 4 года назад +9

    I died when he went "CAN YOU SHUT UP MATE?!"

  • @markreynolds8630
    @markreynolds8630 4 года назад +15

    Cracking bikes!
    Would love to see the Duke 890 Vs Hypermotard 950.
    Want to take one of those bikes to the picos. Will sacrifice touring ability for fun once there.
    Thoughts?...

    • @sigberetta72
      @sigberetta72 4 года назад +1

      I would also like to see compare of the Hyper and 890

    • @armankiarmankii
      @armankiarmankii 3 года назад

      Exactly, killing myself over which one to get.Would love to hear some insights on which is more un-nigel-y🤔😂

    • @mattgreenwood2459
      @mattgreenwood2459 2 года назад

      @@armankiarmankii there is on Bike World

  • @goldie6579
    @goldie6579 4 года назад +18

    I need a translator for Mossy

  • @rhettharris2520
    @rhettharris2520 4 года назад +31

    21:36 - what happened there?

    • @bimmerius
      @bimmerius 4 года назад

      Pretending to crash

    • @nspinicelli
      @nspinicelli 4 года назад

      Yeah I think they were being silly. I've done that before when bored on a ride.

    • @steveman1982
      @steveman1982 4 года назад

      Haha, he entered the frame completely stable... Yeah that's some Statham level acting.

    • @landedzentry
      @landedzentry 4 года назад

      One his suspender straps came loose and twanged his bollocks?

    • @midlifebiker7424
      @midlifebiker7424 4 года назад +1

      Adjusting his love eggs lol

  • @Jackchalm
    @Jackchalm 4 года назад +8

    Awesome video as always. I'd love to know how the MT-09SP fits in with these two

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket 4 года назад

      2021 Gets a bump of ~5 hp and ~4 torque, from 847cc to 890cc. Loses 6 pounds, gains a PILE of upgrades across the board. It's practically a new machine from the ground up.

    • @rohanalias9053
      @rohanalias9053 3 года назад +1

      If you love it's looks( I'm not quite liking it),it is a huge technical improvement over the predecessor.it is on par with the st rs 765 now.

  • @CAVENBASS
    @CAVENBASS 4 года назад +1

    Love this review, you guys have made up my mind. Heard nothing but great reviews about this KTM. Cheers lads

  • @ivanda64LPGames
    @ivanda64LPGames 4 года назад +2

    Its hard to choose. Pretty sure both bikes are great. However i feel like the striple *R* is the bike to get.... Unless you are a very hardcore rider or doing a lot of trackriding the fully adjustable Showas will be more than enough... I have ridden multiple bikes and i could not care less for a lack of tft dash...you also get the buttery smooth QS up/down which in my way works better than the one on KTMs. And all this for 8900. A simple exhaust mod will get you back the few ponnies missing from factory... Only my thoughts .. nice review!

  • @russcattell955i
    @russcattell955i 4 года назад +3

    I bought my Street Triple new in 2009. Still love it. Might have to part company soon as health ain't what is was now i'm 61. Might be heading to a Tiger.

    • @LondonSteveLee
      @LondonSteveLee 4 года назад

      Try the street scrambler unless you're pretty tall.

  • @Everendlesss
    @Everendlesss 4 года назад

    Wow, what good content. Crispy quality, straight forward information and wonderful hosts. Cheers from the US.

  • @mikey_bb
    @mikey_bb Год назад +2

    Having owned both, I'd take the 890R every time.
    One thing they didn't touch on is fuel economy. I don't buy a bike for it & don't really care, but the difference between these is massive. I got no lower than 59/60mpg out of my 890R, no matter how I rode it (saw 80+ on more than one occasion on steady 70mph motorway runs). The Triumph averages mid-high 40s & the best I've ever seen is 55mpg on a steady motorway run. An odd, unexpected benefit of the KTM...

    • @arcadegamesify
      @arcadegamesify Год назад +1

      I'm in a predicament right now... I want a middleweight off-road adv, and a sporty naked... and the 890 is the best in both categories.. what do I do buy 2 890s?? Lol. I almost want to get the 765rs just to not have 2 of the same

    • @Sanisani9
      @Sanisani9 8 месяцев назад

      Get 790 Duke and 890 adventure

  • @Wilberon_McBane
    @Wilberon_McBane 4 года назад +1

    Saw you two heading out through Keynsham the other morning whikst walking back from the school run. Knew this vid was coming and it proper got me excited!!! Solid work. Reckon I'd have the KTM for a weekend fun bike! Keep up the awesome content lads! 😎👍

  • @MrMinimanmatt
    @MrMinimanmatt 4 года назад +16

    Triumphs have actually started to make bikes that are too good ?
    Cool i will take that.
    The styling on the KTM is hookey at best

    • @corposh
      @corposh 4 года назад +4

      Up close the KTM does look a bit cheep doesn’t it.

    • @MrMinimanmatt
      @MrMinimanmatt 4 года назад +4

      @@corposh yeah definitely.
      As always looks are subjective i just think the KTM looks terrible

    • @steveman1982
      @steveman1982 4 года назад +3

      @@MrMinimanmatt The KTM just too shouty for my taste, in fact I think the new headlights on the triple are a bit, dare I say, vulgar as well. I do like the looks of the 1290 black/orange scheme. But wallet says no...

    • @MrMinimanmatt
      @MrMinimanmatt 4 года назад +1

      @@steveman1982 100% agree. The engine in the 1290 is just glorious.
      Ktm do know how to make a characterful engine

  • @God-Knows-I-Dont
    @God-Knows-I-Dont 4 года назад +4

    Smashing triple vs Smashing Twin. Comes down to how you like your power delivered.

  • @wilko527
    @wilko527 4 года назад +2

    the KTM might be 10k at the moment, KTM winter sales will be sub 9k in 2021. So when at 1k less than the Triumph the KTM is the better buy.

  • @djm555
    @djm555 3 года назад

    Now things are opening up it's about time you two took these bikes on to the track and then have a sit down afterwards and have another great discussion and hopefully no sheep taking the limelight from your discussion 👍

  • @findingneutral426
    @findingneutral426 4 года назад +2

    I got lent a street triple when my Panigale was in for warranty work (shock and horror). Great little bikes. Actually enjoyed riding on the road for once

  • @hubert1142
    @hubert1142 4 года назад +2

    Fagan looks like a baby of Statham and Keith Flint now. Epic.

  • @TheSockerConny
    @TheSockerConny 4 года назад +5

    Does the KTM come stock with the exclamination mark on the dash? :D

  • @doubleaaaron
    @doubleaaaron 4 года назад

    That's background @5:40 is ridiculously beautiful. Lucky fellas. Good review. Love both bikes.

  • @Nigelg79
    @Nigelg79 4 года назад +10

    I do love a sweet Sherry 😂

  • @ianhughes100
    @ianhughes100 4 года назад +4

    You mentioned "too refined" on the Triumph. That's literally my only big complaint about my 2016 Speed Triple R. Has lots of good power, but it's never scary. Even when working the throttle hard, you know exactly what it's going to do. I wish it had that scary, unhinged feeling when you really get at it.

    • @pauly1k
      @pauly1k 3 года назад

      I loved my 2014 Daytona 675r but I felt the same way. The mt09 ruined a lot of bike for me for this very reason.

  • @BrianFrichette
    @BrianFrichette 3 года назад +3

    I really want to buy an 890R, but I just can't do it until KTM fixes their electronics issues. All the modes and settings should be saved when turning the bike off and on, and I don't want to see all the damn dash faults, check engine lights, etc. Until they get that sorted, I can't justify owning one. It's such a bummer because it looks like an amazing street bike.

  • @ianchambers2731
    @ianchambers2731 4 года назад +22

    Are they the same price though? Don’t you still have to pay KTM to unlock everything electronically and let you have a quick shifter? Once you’ve gone through all that, the Triumph looks better value to me 👍

    • @TheUberdude14
      @TheUberdude14 4 года назад +4

      Duke 790 is the better option instead of a 890, bolt on some better forks, power commander and different brakes and you'll have a 790r with all the options a 890 doesn't have stock

    • @fynn8252
      @fynn8252 4 года назад

      Ian Chambers so the KTM base price is cheaper than the Triumph. As you said, it doesn’t include a quick shifter or the 5 riding modes. When you add the Tech Pack, you get all those features but it costs around $800. For this comparison, I’m pretty sure they opted for the extras to make it fair.

    • @appymarley
      @appymarley 4 года назад +6

      @@TheUberdude14 or just buy an 890 did you actually watch this?

    • @ianchambers2731
      @ianchambers2731 4 года назад +1

      Fynn825 The Triumph works out much cheaper here in the UK when you look into it.....

    • @MrRGM10
      @MrRGM10 4 года назад +4

      Why spend on 790 if that was your plan in the 1st place lol just get 890. You cannot easily upgrade the engine .

  • @amotogirlslife
    @amotogirlslife 4 года назад +2

    @44teeth Very interesting and informative review of the two! I'd love to give the KTM a try now due to your video, just to see what exactly is it that I'm missing out on! I always hear people comparing these two bikes but definitely looks like they have their own personalities.

  • @PCERules
    @PCERules 4 года назад +5

    Interesting review, no KTM dealer of note near me, they’re kind of a stand in a corner shared with Aprillia and my last KTM needed a lot of parts!

  • @BernardVisagie
    @BernardVisagie 4 года назад +24

    That KTM sounds so uninspiring and shite when it's turned on. Triumph sounds allot better for me.

    • @TheUberdude14
      @TheUberdude14 4 года назад

      Yup the stock exhaust is crap, first thing i replaced on my 790

    • @jujunu8515
      @jujunu8515 4 года назад

      KTM is for lumberjacks...

  • @garmit61
    @garmit61 4 года назад

    So a comfy seat and a fly screen would have the KTM sorted. It beggars belief that these can’t be provided within a price tag over ten grand. Great honest review as ever chaps.

  • @rojermarkesen7048
    @rojermarkesen7048 2 года назад

    These guys are great. Definitely subscribing. Can’t wait to watch more videos from this channel.

  • @kevh8685
    @kevh8685 4 года назад +3

    Usual great vid, Mr Mossy definitely has a way with the words 😊 i have the gt and the ktm's sure have character.

  • @yogiguitar1
    @yogiguitar1 2 года назад

    that trumpet sounds epic man. imagine it with a straight through pipe music !

  • @Roger101Watson
    @Roger101Watson 4 года назад +12

    Heart = KTM Head = Truimph.

    • @boo_
      @boo_ 4 года назад +15

      Wallet = Bicycle

    • @princesrc
      @princesrc 4 года назад

      9/10 would agree to this haha

    • @JK-kb3cr
      @JK-kb3cr 4 года назад

      Pretty much and I don't ride motorcycles because I think it's a smart choice. I do it because I love it. Which is why the KTM is much more appealing. Though I bought a MT-09 back in 2017 and put fully adjustable Öhlins front and back.

    • @TheRaidooo
      @TheRaidooo 4 года назад

      @Kattrap Yes and Yes

  • @QuasiMotoUSA
    @QuasiMotoUSA 3 года назад +1

    I sold my Street Triple R 765 after a year, although incredible, it was almost too refined for a naked. Went back to a Hypermotard 1100s.

    • @rohanalias9053
      @rohanalias9053 3 года назад

      I would have loved a refined motorcycle.
      Have fun tho

  • @sabamacx
    @sabamacx 4 года назад +6

    Hey, KTM? 890 SM R and 1290 SM R. Do it. We're waiting.

    • @2ane
      @2ane 4 года назад

      there were some pics of a LC8c Supermoto prototype. The 1290 in a tall bike with long suspension travel would be rather absurd.

  • @sinematographers3344
    @sinematographers3344 4 года назад

    Reviews getting better. Great work guys !

  • @commanderroddi7742
    @commanderroddi7742 2 года назад +2

    Think Choice would also come to aesthetics. KTM's looks can be divisive (I like them, though I think the Street Triple is as good looking in its own way). Engine characteristics matter too. If you're used to dirt bikes, supermotos, and twins cyls in general, the KTM is an engine you'll be familiar with, having lots of torque all the way from the bottom, while the 3 cyl engine of the Triumph is a bit more like a supersport 600cc bike. I mostly owned ZX-6R and one R6 most my life, and a 2014 Street Tripe R, which was similar in a way to thZX-6R/R6. KTMs are different creatures, though. If It was my money (and it is right now, since ssaid Street Triple got ran over by a truck in a parking lot =( ) the 890 Duke R is what I may get (While I would not and did not get the 790 DUke in the past)

  • @craigmillard5083
    @craigmillard5083 4 года назад +1

    Sorry but the triumph has it on looks over the KTM. But I'd probably buy the KTM for a smile on my face riding it? Tough one to pick between the two of them. Good head 2 head by 44 teeth, thanks guys. Stay safe everybody 😃👍

  • @nspinicelli
    @nspinicelli 4 года назад +4

    GOD the sound of that triple! Like a Moto2 bike (drool)
    About the Triple not steering as quickly, can't you just drop the triple clamps down the forks to the maximum rake angle? Should be a simple fix and make a big difference.

  • @LinkinMcOwnage
    @LinkinMcOwnage 4 года назад +16

    No MT09SP? I really can't figure out why you guys haven't tested one yet.

    • @anthonylynn1969
      @anthonylynn1969 4 года назад +1

      That and the mt10 are better bikes than these 2

    • @iTxip
      @iTxip 4 года назад +13

      @@anthonylynn1969 mt10 sure, but i would have a striple over a mt09

    • @Solrak8O
      @Solrak8O 4 года назад +12

      @@anthonylynn1969 No way! Rode a MT09SP back to back with my 790 Duke and the 790 is a better bike so the 890 would crush it! Ride a 790 or 890 Duke if you get the chance and you'll be grinning like a Cheshire cat for the whole ride, trust me. The MT10 is a fantastic bike but not in the middleweight category like the Striple or Duke (It would be the rich fat uncle with a drinking problem)

    • @TheUberdude14
      @TheUberdude14 4 года назад

      @@anthonylynn1969 way different class of bike and price

    • @anthonylynn1969
      @anthonylynn1969 4 года назад +1

      @@Solrak8O rich fat uncle with drink problem sounds like me 😂😂👍🏽

  • @philipbeens1021
    @philipbeens1021 3 года назад +1

    Sold me on the KTM , love the banter

  • @kyleanderson6790
    @kyleanderson6790 4 года назад +1

    The only Ktm I’d ever buy again would be the 1290 super duke. Triumph has come a long ways to improve reliability and performance.

  • @r3nlot
    @r3nlot 4 года назад

    Awesome guys. Could not stop laughing! Footage is top notch, including the helmet cam and the audio is spot on.

  • @MotoGoato
    @MotoGoato 4 года назад +21

    Ah so the KTM has fully adjustable suspension does it? ... Show us the preload adjusters on the forks then ... bet ya can't .... because it doesn't have any 😉

    • @mitchnak1
      @mitchnak1 4 года назад +4

      I have an 890 for track only, and the lack of fork preload adjustment is a puzzling design decision, especially considering the sporting focus compared to the 790.

    • @kmc7355
      @kmc7355 4 года назад

      Can you adjust it internally for spring preload? Considering sag is the fundamental starting point of setting your bike up it seems crazy not to include that adjusment

    • @mitchnak1
      @mitchnak1 4 года назад +2

      @@kmc7355 You would have to add spacers to increase preload. Or change springs to make a gross change in either direction. For reference, I weigh 165lb without gear, and sag was pretty close to where I need it for track use.

    • @kmc7355
      @kmc7355 4 года назад

      @@mitchnak1 Okay so internal spacers, that is a pain but at least you only need to do it once unless you get fat. Thank you

    • @steveman1982
      @steveman1982 4 года назад

      @@mitchnak1 I'll be making a trip to the suspension guru then ... again!

  • @SilverfoxJB
    @SilverfoxJB 4 года назад

    I was born in Somerset and it's nice, But Devon, Devon is Heaven. Loving seeing you back out and about, watching from my home in Malaysia.

  • @AndrewBeveridge461
    @AndrewBeveridge461 4 года назад +2

    The ST still has the same problem it had 10 years ago: that light/instrument cluster that sticks wayyyyy too far out in front and looks stupid from the side.

    • @stimpsonjcat26
      @stimpsonjcat26 4 года назад +2

      You will only ever see it from the rear

  • @doubleud2140
    @doubleud2140 4 года назад +3

    I love the old man, keep him coming back

  • @patkawasaki
    @patkawasaki 4 года назад +1

    I think it'd be interesting to compare the specifications of the ktm890 and an original 916 Ducati. I know things move on over the years, but it would give you an idea of just how lively that ktm is.
    If they made an RC390-style sportsbike, it'd be a heck of a track day weapon. Im sure it'd be handy enough as-is.

  • @Timmayytoo
    @Timmayytoo 4 года назад +1

    I need to figure out how to introduce "ballbaggery" into my lexicon.
    I love triples and part of me wants to see the MT-09 up against the Street Triple, but then I realize that the MT is getting pretty old at this point and the suspension is designed to keep the MSRP low, not to properly suspend the bike. I mean, we can't even get the MT-09 SP in the States.

    • @TheDriversPerspective
      @TheDriversPerspective 4 года назад +2

      I went from a MT-09, MT-09 with Ohlins to a Street Triple RS. The RS is in a different category.

  • @MattJones675GR9
    @MattJones675GR9 4 года назад +24

    I'll say Street RS ftw..

    • @scottyscragg5352
      @scottyscragg5352 4 года назад +5

      If that's what you took from this then you and I must be very different people.

  • @HippoDrones
    @HippoDrones 4 года назад +1

    Triumph used to offer amazing pain options on their bikes, really wish they would bring that back instead of just putting a flouro sticker or two on them. Shame the KTM was so much more conservative than the prototype, I'd forgive the gremlins if it looked like the "Scalpel" we were promised, but the Triumph perfoms and has the build quality and refinements that KTM seems to forget about!

  • @akent46
    @akent46 4 года назад +1

    Without understanding all the pommy slang, I have no fucking clue what I just watched! 😂

  • @bikerslow2598
    @bikerslow2598 4 года назад +2

    Street any day. ONE THING that's British and is actually awesome.
    The triple is an amazing engine everyone should have a go!

  • @1mick66mick66
    @1mick66mick66 4 года назад +1

    So the Triumph is more powerful, comfier, more wind protection for touring, faster on track more stable reliable and refined.. Mossy is correct, this will appeal to alot if people.. Having owned a few twins..the RSV1000 was a complete tractor ... I just don't get twins.. chugg.. transmission slap.. vibey on/off clatter.. I even prefer the scream if a 4 cylinder. ( I know the Triumph is a triple)
    Anyway ... Mossy for president...

  • @assortedpov
    @assortedpov 4 года назад +1

    I'm getting an MT-09 SP this week. Yeah, it's lower specced and less performance orientated than these 2. Still for those of us less than 5 years into riding bikes, only riding recreationally to take in the coast and countryside b-roads on evenings and weekends , it's plenty of bike to learn and grow with. Plus (in the eyes of this beholder) it's miles better looking than any of the Street Triple or Duke range bikes. If you're accustomed to sport bikes and have such experience of riding hard that nuances in performance are massively noticeable, you're gonna want a Triumph or KTM but otherwise it's really worth testing the Yamaha.

    • @neilmckenzie4692
      @neilmckenzie4692 3 года назад

      Except for the headlight 🤔

    • @assortedpov
      @assortedpov 3 года назад

      @@neilmckenzie4692 The new one is fugly but I like the headlights on my 2020 one

  • @brentcameron4494
    @brentcameron4494 4 года назад +2

    The Triumph may have more peak power but the KTM has much more power and torque between 3500 and 10,000RPM. That's were we spent 95% of our riding time.

    • @neilmckenzie4692
      @neilmckenzie4692 3 года назад +1

      Couldn't agree more and that's exactly why I bought the 790 over the RS and just traded up to an 890r for even more smiles everytime I twist the throttle. 😊😊😊

    • @Zox-e5k
      @Zox-e5k 27 дней назад

      For how much you bought it and which country? ​@@neilmckenzie4692

  • @MaxTw1st
    @MaxTw1st 4 года назад +8

    it actually just comes down to looks and unfortunately the ktm looks like the ktm 125 and that's why id never buy one..

    • @karlosh9286
      @karlosh9286 4 года назад

      Well KTMs all look like insecty aliens to me. Not my kind of thing.

  • @TheTypeRTheory
    @TheTypeRTheory 4 года назад +8

    Seems like everyone adores the KTMs when they test them, but nobody actually buys one.

    • @mitchnak1
      @mitchnak1 4 года назад +1

      The 790 Duke, 890R Duke and 790 Adventure R in my garage say otherwise.

    • @RealOrbit-Australia
      @RealOrbit-Australia 4 года назад +2

      According to sales numbers KTM is the biggest European motorcycle maker....just behind the Japanese Honda, Kawasaki, Yamaha,

    • @TheTypeRTheory
      @TheTypeRTheory 4 года назад

      @@RealOrbit-Australia I meant the testers, every video I see they say how amazing the machine is...and then they go and buy something else. Maybe it's a reliability thing. I'd have one in a heartbeat!

    • @NabGer
      @NabGer Год назад

      It’s not an attractive bike

  • @tonykeast9966
    @tonykeast9966 4 года назад +1

    Trumpet all day long. KTM isn't even a contender. Like Aprilia, there are bugger all dealers and you need a good dealer network for either... Triumph have set the bar so brilliantly high! Motorbikes will all get better to meet Triumphs level of quality. Proud of em