I just reinstalled windows 10 yesterday. replace 10 Pro N with 10 LTSC. the time booting difference is insane! LTSC is much faster plus it had no bloatware preinstalled in it
Thanks! I really tried to make sure this speed test was better than the last I made on my channel, and it took me around 5-10 hours to make this one, so seeing people compliment me on that is much appreciated. :)
Those results are nice but they have nothing to to with why I prefer LTSC. LTSC is the OS most people should get because of the useless annoying crap that's missing in it and the lack of telemetry and "feature" updates.
I will say that most of the stuff that comes with Windows 10 is pretty useless, however LTSC isn't "free" of telemetry. It still has the standard telemetry that would come with the base Windows 10, Microsoft hasn't disabled it.
@@EverythingeeB Are you saying this is true AFTER setting telemetry to "0" in Group Policy? I don't think the consumer versions of 10 allow you to set it lower than "1" but LTSC does.
LTSC is just less memory or processor usage. I'm defo gonna try it on my new pc because apparently microsoft's updates on 10 just nag you to upgrade to 11. That's a no go for me. I guess ltsc is.
some questions regarding LTSC builds: I know ws store is not there in LTSC But what about app Installer app which allows installing ws store via app installer file like normal exe file can we do that?
If you really wanted to use the store, you might as well use winget from the power shell terminal. You can grab everything from the store without actually using it :)
@@concordemachspeed24 I use LTSC and appx and msix working fine if I just double click on it. There's special Powershell command that will forever enable support for appx and msix
LTSC 2019 is based on Windows 10 1809 and LTSC 2021 is based on Windows 10 21H2 (the final build of windows 10), LTSC 2024 is based on Windows 11 24H2.
did you switched the disks between laptops to see if you get same results? just to eliminate any hardware differences, sometimes same machines doesn't run with same speed. I had long time ago 10 Dell optiplex and I installed same windows and software but they ran at different speed. I agree that LTSC should run faster anyway.
I'm sure that even LTSC has some bloatware left, but once the mainline versions come to an end around October 2025, many who don't want to get Windows 11 will either be making a switch to a new OS, or will go straight for LTSC. Thankfully it'll be functional until 2032 (unless Microsoft wants to pull the plug earlier) and some will make the needed changes to debloat even this version.
@@MIOG_MIOGYou're right. A few days ago I was uninstalling all the Bloatware from Windows 10 pro and then the system crashed and I had to format and reinstall Windows again 🙄 LTSC is much better than pro because it is lighter and faster and does not have all that crap installed that we do not use.
I think on the speed test it depends on who started before even if we are talking about milliseconds since it took the most network bandth and the other had to adapt with the remaining
To analyze it, using other OS. If it still hang maybe the problem is the hardware like RAM, VGA card, or pci / pcie card like soundcard, lancard, or usb card...
hey ithink ltsc is best. i have a problem... i dont care about windows installing on my pc...i do it with closed eyes""" now i will try the ltsc10...on my rog ally... i gought a2tb ssd... ltsc installing is normal way like the normal 10? i think so... what about activation... can i use my readout activation key ? last times i use it everytime on my pc if i install new...
Well, in short, I understand that Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 LTSC v21H2 are no different from each other, except for the lack of built-in applications in Windows 10 LTSC. I really don't know whether to stay on Windows 8.1 or switch to LTSC :\
My HDD usage went from 100% all the time on 10 Pro to 2% sometimes. Using LTSC feels like Win 7. Only drawback for now is the lack if Photos app but I switched to image glass photo viewer.
Recently upgraded from a GTX 970 to RTX 3080.. to discover it wasn't supported by my beloved long running Windows 8.1 period. Except Windows 7 is lol. So I am in the same boat now, basically being forced to finally change to Windows 10, glad I discovered LTSC. I'm hoping it isn't noticeably terrible of a change
@@EverythingeeB I couldn't get my windows 10 ltsc to work, it just had a light blue screen without any text when I press esc it restarts the pc, I managed to get it back to my normal os tho also windows 11 is awful so Im not going to use that
Should use LTSC 2021 or 2019? I downloaded the iso from 2021 but I think 2019 will run faster on my crappy pc. My only fear is that probably with 2019 my photoshop version which is CC 2020 probably says it cannot be installed on this older windows version. Same thing happened with old W10 version.
It's a great video. Only this is a very difficult license. That's why you want to compare W10 Enterprise vs W10 Enterprise LTSC 2021. W10 Enterprise is activated with KMS at the university I read. Here is the obvious difference between the two? At least I want to see it as a test.
@@EverythingeeB Can you compare or test Windows 10 Enterprise(Standard) with Windows 10 LTSC 2021? Because LTSC is very difficult to activate..The University I'm studying has KMS Bachelor but it's for Standard Windows 10 Enterprise..I want to see the difference in quality with LTSC.
@@serkanbeyaz7901 LTSC is very easy to activate with MAS HWID. MS doesn't want to sell this OS to consumers because it's superior and no adware with long support.
Its really terrible that i can't find the "Official" way to buy these. Thankfully the grey market has one but their prices are insane for the LTSC keys
@@mrazbyte3150 i installed was really good batter than normal windows but need do some search for edge remove + ms store install and here u go ! \ if asking about games and softwares all works fiine even better
Ltsc/ltsb/iot are good for lower resource demand and better integer performance on CPU, but down side is it will hold back your gaming experience because big GPU require constant caching and data flow and therefore normal windows 10 with higher ram usage are better for AI and ray tracing.
Is it still good? I also use hdd, trying to move from win 7 which is super smooth and runs great even on hdd and 4gb ram. Btw it's idle usage is at 1,35gb ram
@@tubo_channel still working disadvantage of LTSC no windows app totally empty only settings and simple system apps that's why you should bring app installer using usb to the device
@@bornokhappytot6742 i'd prefer that, would use kaspersky instead of defender, just wanted to run a few games and apps that's not supported on w7 anymore, but also don't run awfully like win10 pro (which is literally unusable on an hdd)
I just reinstalled windows 10 yesterday. replace 10 Pro N with 10 LTSC. the time booting difference is insane! LTSC is much faster plus it had no bloatware preinstalled in it
Yeah I really like LTSC I think it's a lot better than stock Windows 10
you bought the license ?
My HDD usage went from 100% all the time to 2%. LTSC is amazing.
@@Luhiner no needed
N version is shit
LTSC ftw! Nice video btw, it's pretty much easy to see how much effort you're putting into these videos, which I, as a viewer, really appreciate.
Thanks! I really tried to make sure this speed test was better than the last I made on my channel, and it took me around 5-10 hours to make this one, so seeing people compliment me on that is much appreciated. :)
LTSC is what windows 10 pro should’ve been.
No. Windows (11) G version is what every windows should have been. Bare minimum, not even Defender.
thanks for the test i know it took a lot of time from you for it
Those results are nice but they have nothing to to with why I prefer LTSC. LTSC is the OS most people should get because of the useless annoying crap that's missing in it and the lack of telemetry and "feature" updates.
I will say that most of the stuff that comes with Windows 10 is pretty useless, however LTSC isn't "free" of telemetry. It still has the standard telemetry that would come with the base Windows 10, Microsoft hasn't disabled it.
@@EverythingeeB Are you saying this is true AFTER setting telemetry to "0" in Group Policy? I don't think the consumer versions of 10 allow you to set it lower than "1" but LTSC does.
@@echt114 oh
Wow that was a blowout! LTSC is one reason why I don't buy computers with the OS pre-installed
Personally I just take the time to wipe the OS that comes pre-installed from the system using a USB drive
LTSC is just less memory or processor usage. I'm defo gonna try it on my new pc because apparently microsoft's updates on 10 just nag you to upgrade to 11. That's a no go for me. I guess ltsc is.
I disabled my TPM and the windows 11 upgrade demands stopped lmao
Genius @@ArtisChronicles
some questions regarding LTSC builds:
I know ws store is not there in LTSC
But what about app Installer app
which allows installing ws store via app installer file like normal exe file
can we do that?
If I recall correctly there is a method for getting Windows store on LTSC. Might make a video on that
LTSC doesn't have Microsoft Store, which makes .appx files useless.
If you really wanted to use the store, you might as well use winget from the power shell terminal. You can grab everything from the store without actually using it :)
"wsreset -i" to install store.
@@concordemachspeed24 I use LTSC and appx and msix working fine if I just double click on it.
There's special Powershell command that will forever enable support for appx and msix
I‘ll get the LTSC version of Windows 10 when support ends for Pro version in October of 2025, for now I’ll just live with 10 Pro.
Why? Installation's not that difficult…
Same I'm also thinking to do this when windows 10 pro expires
@@UltimaSpark50laziness to install everything again 😂
same
Actually, you can upgrade from pro to ltsc with a registry bypass
I used window 10 ltsc 2019 its great
I want to know 2019 is better or 2021? Reply
LTSC 2019 is based on Windows 10 1809 and LTSC 2021 is based on Windows 10 21H2 (the final build of windows 10), LTSC 2024 is based on Windows 11 24H2.
Why doesn't LTSC 2024 have another version for Windows 10 22H2? Microsoft should seperate Windows 11 LTSC and Windows 10 LTSC
@@WololoWololo2 windows 10 22H2 is just enablement package for windows 10 2004/20H2/21H2 that changes the version number, it doesn't add any features
@MIOG_MIOG so whats ths point?
did you switched the disks between laptops to see if you get same results? just to eliminate any hardware differences, sometimes same machines doesn't run with same speed. I had long time ago 10 Dell optiplex and I installed same windows and software but they ran at different speed. I agree that LTSC should run faster anyway.
how if I just install but I dont have license, can I still use ,sir ?
Yes, but some settings is disabled until it's activated...
Wow, that was unexpected!👨🍳
Very!
where can I download the windows 10 ltsc iso or torrent? I cant find any in the third party websites just windows 10 enterprise ltsc
Here
Thanks good video it helps me, i will definitely install LTSC version in my new SSD drive :)
Glad it helped!
I'm sure that even LTSC has some bloatware left, but once the mainline versions come to an end around October 2025, many who don't want to get Windows 11 will either be making a switch to a new OS, or will go straight for LTSC. Thankfully it'll be functional until 2032 (unless Microsoft wants to pull the plug earlier) and some will make the needed changes to debloat even this version.
Do you know how to switch to ltsc
@@amritanshurompz maybe reinstall windows? Because i'll switch from pro to ltsc using that method.
excelente video muy buena comparativa justo lo que buscaba
How to get cd key / purchase
Windows 10 2021 LTSC
Mas github activation
I have questions do Nvidia control be installed already or i need to download it
You'll need to download it I think
Could you compare debloated 10 pro as well?
"Debloated" windows is unstable and insecure trash.
Just use LTSC.
@@MIOG_MIOGYou're right. A few days ago I was uninstalling all the Bloatware from Windows 10 pro and then the system crashed and I had to format and reinstall Windows again 🙄 LTSC is much better than pro because it is lighter and faster and does not have all that crap installed that we do not use.
@@MIOG_MIOG debloated 10 is way better than ltsc, no difference in ram usage in ltsc compared to stock windows 10. What you say now
Great video. Thanks a lot
Did they have exact same rivers??
I think on the speed test it depends on who started before even if we are talking about milliseconds since it took the most network bandth and the other had to adapt with the remaining
Windows defender is working ?
What is this new IoT Windows?? Anyone know? And how does it compare to Windows 10 Home/Pro ?
Is this the iot version ? Thanks for the great comparison :)
No it's the regular version
Qual a diferença entre iot e interprise comum?
@@FernandoOliveira-eb1fball I know is iot has a longer life span
@@nate0___ Intended for POS & Arcades
my 10 LTSC hang on boot and i have to reboot to login :{ any fixes ?
maybe your problem is a cursor and a blackscreen before log in?
@@Vizzythong no?
okay then i can't help you unfortunately@@neomatrix4412
To analyze it, using other OS. If it still hang maybe the problem is the hardware like RAM, VGA card, or pci / pcie card like soundcard, lancard, or usb card...
@@lele2171 thanks i have to reboot multiple times before it loads
could you do a comparison between windows 10/11 stock vs. tweaked by scripts such as christitus?
Good idea! I actually bought a new laptop for speedtests (a ThinkPad E490) so I will be making more speedtests soon.
Great video✌
Que pasara si convinas windows 10 LTSC con algun software como Atlas OS o Kernel Os
What is Windows 10 LTSC?
Best version of Windows 10
I'm commenting, liking, and subscribing despite not liking this speedtest because no one tells me what to do!
LOL
hey ithink ltsc is best.
i have a problem... i dont care about windows installing on my pc...i do it with closed eyes"""
now i will try the ltsc10...on my rog ally... i gought a2tb ssd...
ltsc installing is normal way like the normal 10? i think so...
what about activation... can i use my readout activation key ? last times i use it everytime on my pc if i install new...
Nice video!
Thanks!
Well, in short, I understand that Windows 10 Pro and Windows 10 LTSC v21H2 are no different from each other, except for the lack of built-in applications in Windows 10 LTSC. I really don't know whether to stay on Windows 8.1 or switch to LTSC :\
My HDD usage went from 100% all the time on 10 Pro to 2% sometimes. Using LTSC feels like Win 7. Only drawback for now is the lack if Photos app but I switched to image glass photo viewer.
@Maccer or IrfanView. It's incredibly fast
Recently upgraded from a GTX 970 to RTX 3080.. to discover it wasn't supported by my beloved long running Windows 8.1 period. Except Windows 7 is lol. So I am in the same boat now, basically being forced to finally change to Windows 10, glad I discovered LTSC. I'm hoping it isn't noticeably terrible of a change
Windows 11 LTSC came out
should i use windows 10 ltsc 2021 on my main pc? (is it good with playing games?)
I haven’t tested gaming but it should work alright. Windows 11 LTSC 2024 is coming out soon though
@@EverythingeeB I couldn't get my windows 10 ltsc to work, it just had a light blue screen without any text when I press esc it restarts the pc, I managed to get it back to my normal os tho also windows 11 is awful so Im not going to use that
Should use LTSC 2021 or 2019? I downloaded the iso from 2021 but I think 2019 will run faster on my crappy pc. My only fear is that probably with 2019 my photoshop version which is CC 2020 probably says it cannot be installed on this older windows version. Same thing happened with old W10 version.
Is tiny10 good for asus k53u? :)
Don't install 3rd party Windows builds
I have that exact laptop!
You forget to include price in the comparision. To a lot of people, that is one of the most important aspect of the comparision.
It's a great video. Only this is a very difficult license. That's why you want to compare W10 Enterprise vs W10 Enterprise LTSC 2021. W10 Enterprise is activated with KMS at the university I read. Here is the obvious difference between the two? At least I want to see it as a test.
Thanks for watching! I made this video because a lot of people I know use Windows 10 LTSC rather than Home or Pro due to it's stripped-down nature.
@@EverythingeeB Can you compare or test Windows 10 Enterprise(Standard) with Windows 10 LTSC 2021? Because LTSC is very difficult to activate..The University I'm studying has KMS Bachelor but it's for Standard Windows 10 Enterprise..I want to see the difference in quality with LTSC.
@@serkanbeyaz7901 LTSC is very easy to activate with MAS HWID. MS doesn't want to sell this OS to consumers because it's superior and no adware with long support.
@@mexodroid1848 Easy 😂 Not for me. I am still searching a method to activate my ltsc windows.
@@mohitmohitmohitmohitme too, I have the same battle
This is a very interesting video. Like!!! Where can I legally buy Win10 LTSC?
You can if you are Enterprise, Business or an OEM contracted with Microsoft. Of you do not follow any of this, you just can't.
Pro vs Pro N. Why hide that N has less bloatware?
N just has no audio players
how do i download ltsc??
bro this is tiny10
i install tiny 10 inside tiny 10 window 10 ltsc
Its really terrible that i can't find the "Official" way to buy these. Thankfully the grey market has one but their prices are insane for the LTSC keys
Thank you bro
I'm installing LTSC tomorrow and next week i'll come here to share how is it going
how's going with u ?
like games and apps + activation
Well?
@@mrazbyte3150 i installed was really good batter than normal windows but need do some search for edge remove + ms store install and here u go ! \ if asking about games and softwares all works fiine even better
@@mrazbyte3150 + its taking only 11 GB from ssd 😉
Does LTSC have remote desktop support?
Yes. you can compare the different editions here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_editions
For normal use w10 LTSC or GhostSpectre?
LTSC if you have the choice
Ghost spectre, if you want less ram usage and gaming
where can i get ltsc for free
internet
Ltsc/ltsb/iot are good for lower resource demand and better integer performance on CPU, but down side is it will hold back your gaming experience because big GPU require constant caching and data flow and therefore normal windows 10 with higher ram usage are better for AI and ray tracing.
Try with HDD all. There will be a difference. As I know older versions than 21H2 are optimized for HDDs
ofc the one on the right is going to be faster! Its literally on top of scattered coke!
A lite version of Windows 10 would destroy both of them though :)
LTSC is 9999 times better ofc
Bold of you to assume that, since you haven't even seen the video yet... 😂
@@EverythingeeB I know LTSC will beat Pro
I admire the confidence :P
LTSC 2019 is the best since it has no edge
why do i always remember you as a super big and popular RUclipsr
Lol that's weird!
@@EverythingeeB maybe it's because you'll be one 👀
i hate ltsc version bc is only fo 90days
Massgrave
how about gamming ?
I'll probably try gaming next test that I do
i use ltsc it was fast on boot even its HDD and ram idle use 800+mb compare to pro
Is it still good? I also use hdd, trying to move from win 7 which is super smooth and runs great even on hdd and 4gb ram. Btw it's idle usage is at 1,35gb ram
@@tubo_channel still working disadvantage of LTSC no windows app totally empty only settings and simple system apps that's why you should bring app installer using usb to the device
@@bornokhappytot6742 i'd prefer that, would use kaspersky instead of defender, just wanted to run a few games and apps that's not supported on w7 anymore, but also don't run awfully like win10 pro (which is literally unusable on an hdd)
Since I downloaded ltsc on my laptop it was so much faster
LTSC tends to have that effect. It’s basically a stripped down version of Windows 10
@@EverythingeeB I know
@@nkr69 & How did you activate it?
@@cooldude2862 I didn't I ran some random script that removed the "activate windows"
10 ltsc vs 11 ltsc
Windows 10 pro most software use
Windows 10ltsc iso
ltsc better
Do yourself a favor---STAY UP TO DATE: Get another SSD.
I don't have any more money 😭😭😭
+rep vlw mano