Could be a replacement for the old Kraken Slayer stat profile, and the extra attack speed gives it such strong early game prominence that other champions could use it to opt into a crit build
@benmack8746 you just made me realize that the wind bros can get pseudo lethal tempo stacks with the increased AS passive on Yuntal (although a bit better than Lethal Tempo with Bork IMO)
Ranged champs that can do high tower dmg are just cringe in general. Tristana and Ziggs have to be nerfed in pro for being so annoying in that respect, plus them getting a dash to run away
Yun Tal seems like the new first item for wind bros after bork nerf. They've been waiting for an item that gives around 20-30% AS and crit so they can build IE second.
If they go for it it will be in specific games where lethal tempo is better than grasp since you need more attack speed 20 % plus 25 % from boots it's too little Furthermore yasuo plays for the early game this item takes some time to be good For Yone maybe yes it can be used more often
Riot:shivv is a nightmare to make and balance,lets remove it *1 season later* Riot:lets put shivv back on the game there will be no issues *1 season later* Riot:shivv is a nightmare to make and balance,lets remove it - the eternal cycle of not accepting defeat is to lose forever
i find it funny he points out that statik shiv is going to be busted. but luden's does almost the same thing, but it can dump all its charges on a single target XD
@@magnov983 i mean. you're comparing 2 items worth 5450 gold (after update) with the condition of needing multiple targets to hit to a singular item costing 2850 gold, with the only condition being "hit them with an ability". Like the conditions are not even close to the same.
The difference is you aren't hit by an ability, but still recieve a free 180 damage and giga free push lmao. Annoying asf in a longer lane like bot in comparison to mid
@@KingdomQuackZ1b6LJiv9by532m you realize ludens....... ALSO procs on minions and spreads to champions right? and doesn't gimp your champions primary damage source? and gives you sustain before hand?
@einjharrelraca Ludens when hit on a minion will only bounce 35 damage onto you, shiv can do 180 with almost the same cooldown and without needing to hit a spell on backline. 900 damage spread across both champion and wave just from hitting melee minions, or 75 on a minion and 35 to champion. Shiv is infinitely stronger to control lane and enemy sustain as a first item, but will also do the same amount of item damage at end of the game if you are in just a few teamfights.
The shiv change is a massive nerf to the item for kaisa and jhin im not sure what your talking about. It messes with kaisas evolves and doesn't proc off spells anymore. Same goes for jhin, it doesn't proc of spells or takedowns and there is no way jhins going to auto enough in a fight to get the value out of the item before someone else dies, or he simply wont even be in range to proc it period because he will be using ult.
for jhin i guess they want him to go collector first. and kaisa can go kraken and her evolves are a bit less messed up. i agree that shiv changes are a nerf for them but the item is just very cheap
@@Solid--Snakenah Kraken will be the same it will be that 5 ad on both items that u‘ll miss after buying one of These items + pickaxe. She will get the evolve after finishing rageblade now. But maybe that’s fine because she is still really strong. And Kraken on ap kaisa isn‘t that gold efficient imo because it has his own ad scaling in it and u don’t buy any ad beside rageblade which only gives 30 ad.
yuntal is interesting, crit attack speed marksman have felt really weird, having to buy a full ad crit item first, and then an attack speed crit item second. Against a lot of characters this feels really bad, as the dmg per auto at 2 items is just too low, so characters with alot or armor, shields, especially against like thornmail users the adc literally will die from just autoing the enemy. I do think having one item having the three stats will feel alot better for building crit, instead of the wierd lethality builds right now.
@@giulsen2028 naw hes boring now, melee range q not worth, the e isn't on the map long enough when cast, W too weak to be worth maxing, Ult sustain dmg trash. Its kinda a whole new champ and feels generic, predictable, boring.
I just want them to address how "The Swain Patch" didnt make swain any better and he plays almost identically to how he did before, and they acted like it was gonna be very nearly a rework. Lol
I agree that the Irelia change is going to be pretty annoying, imagine a match where she gets a big lead and now she can permanently keep her passive stacked and keep you from ever getting back to lane, otp's are going to have a field day with this change. Yun'tal also looks like a viable item now, if they keep it like this it's certainly going to become part of many champs builds.
7:37 OMG finaly AFTER SO MANY YEARS they finaly did something with his ult hitbox being DOGSH*T and that if someone is on your back you hit them which is stupiddddd still ww have like 20 very common bugs that happens in every single match so its still bad to play and his interactions with some spells and flash is bugged as hell and with dashes
that statikk is gonna get either super nerfed of reversed. Imagine Jhin hitting 5 champs in a team fight and just getting resets, it's like "mini" runaans that gives you AD... And for 2700 gold only? I bet even bruisers will build it.
Honestly as a Swain player I like the changes, I just think they were scared of giving swain buffs alongside the mini rework, so we will probably see a buff or two more
@@cromusician6153 What's to like? His Regen got gutted across the board. His E CD is massive. R2 recast is worthless (10 seconds to recast it, or rather 8 more likely), Q tickles now (no more Shotgun bang fun), W is overall Weaker (despite the slow being stronger). E change of speed is good but that's in a sea of absolutely awful. Pair that with these "buffs" and Swain's dead. Man is barely on life support and sitting around 44-47/48% winrate across the board in Emerald+ and dead even 50% in low Elo when he's supposed to be troublesome there. He is NOT healthy. He needs Ratio Buffs to his Q, his health regen needs to be reverted. He is not Aatrox, he cannot heal like Aatrox, he should not have Aatrox Health Regen. Shift power from 'Infinite' recast R2 to something else. The ult change was worthless.
Towers used to be targetable by Talon Q and Rengar Q. hope it returns but i feel they are adding it to top laners because they want teams to stop ADC tops and make it more Bruiser tank top lane
finally they reverting the smite change, it was the most horrible digsusting change where you miss smite cause of the dumb noob help riot introduced, gross
If you snowball the game and can assassinate champions easily you wont need lifesteal. If you really needed it: Statikk, Yuntal, Runaan's, IE, LastWhisperItem, and replace Statikk with Bloodthirster You can have all 6 if youre not running boots but the Zephyr MS is hard to avoid
i guess they want marksmen to build shieldbow which is fine 'cause the shield is good imo. my theory is that riot don't want adc's to have too much early healing. i think a fine build for crit adc's is going to be yuntal>beserkers>zeal item>IE>shieldbow>BT. BT last item being what riot actually wants for crit adc's I guess
The yuntal passive is weird. They remove the crit chance it has but then tell you you can get it back if you do this side quest real quick. What is even the point?
@@p0sh77 even so the buildpath is now garbage and they nerfed it's ad. Plus the second passive is not even that good. It's better than it was but that doesn't mean much when yuntal was the worst adc item by a mile.
the point is to give marksmen an item with crit, AD and AS, which is something we currently lack. i'm fine with the side quest to be honest if it means we get an item with those 3 stats
That champ is might be strong, its js they already nerfed him so they cant afford to nerf him again when there are other champs that need balancing. They can only b/n so many champs in 1 patch
It’s actually so dissapointing. How do they still fuck up irelia buffs. It’s like the 6. time they tried to change or buff her to be more viable this year and it fails everytime. This one is a bit more excusable because they nerfed botrk, but THEY nerfed the item so compensate the champ appropriately pls 🤣
Huge Irelia buff. Thought they need to implement it right after Jax Rpassive and Riven passive were able to geal damage to turrets. Better late than never
Edit: I'm not gonna bother responding, I can already tell people don't understand how turret fortifications and plate resistances work. Edit 2: Stay Mad 😁 Edit 3: your ad hominems are projection Adding an assload of resistances to towers over the last few seasons, just to buff champion abilities that modify auto attacks so they can damage structures is peak Riot Balance Philosophy
Actually it kinda makes sense. They want to promote melee bruiser split pushing in top lane but worse for ranged champs and other laners like in mid or bot.
Petition to give Shen his Q bonus damage on towers back!!!! Bro sucks at pushing towers, sucks at pushing waves, has insanely high cooldowns like who hates him so much? xD
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Yuntal will be the only item that gives both crit AD and AS .
Could be a replacement for the old Kraken Slayer stat profile, and the extra attack speed gives it such strong early game prominence that other champions could use it to opt into a crit build
Finally yone and yasuo have a first item after botrk nerf
@benmack8746 you just made me realize that the wind bros can get pseudo lethal tempo stacks with the increased AS passive on Yuntal (although a bit better than Lethal Tempo with Bork IMO)
@magnov983 bork is probably still a stronger first item spike but this let's you build ie second which is huge
bloody finally. every crit adc will rush it first item but we needed this
Smolder was actually able to Q towers in dev testing lol, players ended up running hullbreaker and pretending they were Yorick
Ranged champs that can do high tower dmg are just cringe in general. Tristana and Ziggs have to be nerfed in pro for being so annoying in that respect, plus them getting a dash to run away
Yun Tal seems like the new first item for wind bros after bork nerf. They've been waiting for an item that gives around 20-30% AS and crit so they can build IE second.
If they go for it it will be in specific games where lethal tempo is better than grasp since you need more attack speed 20 % plus 25 % from boots it's too little
Furthermore yasuo plays for the early game this item takes some time to be good
For Yone maybe yes it can be used more often
Bork still exists for %HP and Grievous targets (Bork IE Executioner's into potential Mortal Reminder) like Mundo
yuntal will be the first item for every single crit champion in the game. except for lucian maybe
Cant wait to see what ADCs turn into assassins and what assassins abuse the ADC items
Riot:shivv is a nightmare to make and balance,lets remove it
*1 season later*
Riot:lets put shivv back on the game there will be no issues
*1 season later*
Riot:shivv is a nightmare to make and balance,lets remove it
- the eternal cycle of not accepting defeat is to lose forever
Replace shiv with lethal tempo
The unbalanceable items are what make the game interesting, you'd leave the game if everything was balanced but nothing changes
That irelia buff is amazing idc. It pushes her more in top lane
Right where she belongs.
i find it funny he points out that statik shiv is going to be busted. but luden's does almost the same thing, but it can dump all its charges on a single target XD
Ludens got nerfed in that respect, and Runaan's will let Statikk dump all of its charges onto a target with the chaining from other champs
@@magnov983 i mean. you're comparing 2 items worth 5450 gold (after update) with the condition of needing multiple targets to hit to a singular item costing 2850 gold, with the only condition being "hit them with an ability".
Like the conditions are not even close to the same.
The difference is you aren't hit by an ability, but still recieve a free 180 damage and giga free push lmao. Annoying asf in a longer lane like bot in comparison to mid
@@KingdomQuackZ1b6LJiv9by532m you realize ludens....... ALSO procs on minions and spreads to champions right? and doesn't gimp your champions primary damage source? and gives you sustain before hand?
@einjharrelraca Ludens when hit on a minion will only bounce 35 damage onto you, shiv can do 180 with almost the same cooldown and without needing to hit a spell on backline. 900 damage spread across both champion and wave just from hitting melee minions, or 75 on a minion and 35 to champion.
Shiv is infinitely stronger to control lane and enemy sustain as a first item, but will also do the same amount of item damage at end of the game if you are in just a few teamfights.
Yuntal on ashe sounds interesting, she can proc the passive twice in a tf with the crit passive, wonder if ruunan aplies 3 stacks
Swain buffs are not enough
What about the midlane minion speed changes?
The shiv change is a massive nerf to the item for kaisa and jhin im not sure what your talking about. It messes with kaisas evolves and doesn't proc off spells anymore. Same goes for jhin, it doesn't proc of spells or takedowns and there is no way jhins going to auto enough in a fight to get the value out of the item before someone else dies, or he simply wont even be in range to proc it period because he will be using ult.
for jhin i guess they want him to go collector first. and kaisa can go kraken and her evolves are a bit less messed up. i agree that shiv changes are a nerf for them but the item is just very cheap
@@Solid--Snakenah Kraken will be the same it will be that 5 ad on both items that u‘ll miss after buying one of These items + pickaxe. She will get the evolve after finishing rageblade now. But maybe that’s fine because she is still really strong. And Kraken on ap kaisa isn‘t that gold efficient imo because it has his own ad scaling in it and u don’t buy any ad beside rageblade which only gives 30 ad.
@@tomblabla6333Kraken doesn't have ad scaling i reckon
@@Solid--Snake we need to start with yun tal to get q evo fast now
yuntal is interesting, crit attack speed marksman have felt really weird, having to buy a full ad crit item first, and then an attack speed crit item second. Against a lot of characters this feels really bad, as the dmg per auto at 2 items is just too low, so characters with alot or armor, shields, especially against like thornmail users the adc literally will die from just autoing the enemy. I do think having one item having the three stats will feel alot better for building crit, instead of the wierd lethality builds right now.
they added old lethal tempo to Yun Tal??
That's the only Swain buffs we get... ?
They’re about to release a champ with 500 dashes, armour pen, omnivamp but god forbid swain is an actual drain tank with spells for once.
can't wait to play Sivir with Runnans , Yun Tal , and Statik Shiv
wow, they really aren't reverting swain back to being fun....
he literally didnt change at all, its the same champ with the same gameplay
@@giulsen2028 naw hes boring now, melee range q not worth, the e isn't on the map long enough when cast, W too weak to be worth maxing, Ult sustain dmg trash. Its kinda a whole new champ and feels generic, predictable, boring.
why he didnt read the guinsoo and runaan synergy with statik, its a change
what they do with it? i'm curious, do guinsoo proc 2 statik stack in one hit and runaan proc all 3 stacks?
I just want them to address how "The Swain Patch" didnt make swain any better and he plays almost identically to how he did before, and they acted like it was gonna be very nearly a rework. Lol
Wait is yuntal passive permanent crit addition?
I agree that the Irelia change is going to be pretty annoying, imagine a match where she gets a big lead and now she can permanently keep her passive stacked and keep you from ever getting back to lane, otp's are going to have a field day with this change. Yun'tal also looks like a viable item now, if they keep it like this it's certainly going to become part of many champs builds.
Bausen strategies will now work way better with Irelia
I feel like yuntal should have a meelee ranged modifier for nilah and yone yasuo
7:37 OMG finaly AFTER SO MANY YEARS they finaly did something with his ult hitbox being DOGSH*T and that if someone is on your back you hit them which is stupiddddd
still ww have like 20 very common bugs that happens in every single match so its still bad to play and his interactions with some spells and flash is bugged as hell and with dashes
I swear Warwick is the buggiest champion in the game. Someone at riot just needs to sit down and play 100 games of Warwick and fix everything.
@@The_Lightless true
@The_Lightless 100 games? You want a Riot employee to work in their job?
@@magnov983 You’re right, my bad. How delusional I was for suggesting such a thing!
I hope you don't think his q following dashes and blinks is a bug. Otherwise, I can't really think of scenario you'd be describing.
I was thinking it would be cool if Yun Tal had more than 25% crit so the proc actually somewhat mattered. But we can't have that now can we lol
this is clearly a big aphelios buff
Wish they make a item with old until passive the bleed is my favorite
that static and irelia is gonna be funny for sure
If you're implying statikk Irelia, well, that definitely sounds like a nightmare
that statikk is gonna get either super nerfed of reversed. Imagine Jhin hitting 5 champs in a team fight and just getting resets, it's like "mini" runaans that gives you AD... And for 2700 gold only? I bet even bruisers will build it.
swain just proves that phreak is the biggest fool and yapper in the world
Hahaha true bro is restarded
Completely agree
get that man off the dev team please
Honestly as a Swain player I like the changes, I just think they were scared of giving swain buffs alongside the mini rework, so we will probably see a buff or two more
@@cromusician6153 What's to like? His Regen got gutted across the board. His E CD is massive. R2 recast is worthless (10 seconds to recast it, or rather 8 more likely), Q tickles now (no more Shotgun bang fun), W is overall Weaker (despite the slow being stronger). E change of speed is good but that's in a sea of absolutely awful. Pair that with these "buffs" and Swain's dead. Man is barely on life support and sitting around 44-47/48% winrate across the board in Emerald+ and dead even 50% in low Elo when he's supposed to be troublesome there. He is NOT healthy.
He needs Ratio Buffs to his Q, his health regen needs to be reverted. He is not Aatrox, he cannot heal like Aatrox, he should not have Aatrox Health Regen. Shift power from 'Infinite' recast R2 to something else. The ult change was worthless.
Towers used to be targetable by Talon Q and Rengar Q. hope it returns but i feel they are adding it to top laners because they want teams to stop ADC tops and make it more Bruiser tank top lane
Wait what? Rengar Q is an auto attack empower ability... I'm pretty sure it still works on towers...
this irelia buff is insane
5:58 Garen can Q to proc it then E
Swain rework is an utter failure. It's pretty sad on the part of Riot. Just disappointing...
finally they reverting the smite change, it was the most horrible digsusting change where you miss smite cause of the dumb noob help riot introduced, gross
No meaningful Udyr nerf?
Statikk Shiv looks absurdly broken, and for 2700?????
Atk spd champs still need some lifesteal they cant do the Statik, Runaan, Yuntal build Riot is trying to cook. But I'm gonna try it on ad Teemo :)
If you snowball the game and can assassinate champions easily you wont need lifesteal. If you really needed it:
Statikk, Yuntal, Runaan's, IE, LastWhisperItem, and replace Statikk with Bloodthirster
You can have all 6 if youre not running boots but the Zephyr MS is hard to avoid
i guess they want marksmen to build shieldbow which is fine 'cause the shield is good imo. my theory is that riot don't want adc's to have too much early healing. i think a fine build for crit adc's is going to be yuntal>beserkers>zeal item>IE>shieldbow>BT. BT last item being what riot actually wants for crit adc's I guess
so shiv is just dead or what?
AD Leblanc is back?
Well she doesn't get to have increased tower dmg so thats a good start
Statikk shiv=Full build nao
The yuntal passive is weird. They remove the crit chance it has but then tell you you can get it back if you do this side quest real quick. What is even the point?
Because it gives three different stats, jesus christ. read.
@@p0sh77 even so the buildpath is now garbage and they nerfed it's ad. Plus the second passive is not even that good. It's better than it was but that doesn't mean much when yuntal was the worst adc item by a mile.
it’s to incentivize adcs to build it first or second
@@dreadtrap973 They nerfed the AD by ten and gave it 20-50% attack speed, which is more important for adc's anyway.
the point is to give marksmen an item with crit, AD and AS, which is something we currently lack. i'm fine with the side quest to be honest if it means we get an item with those 3 stats
Wow who knew that the last irelia buff was actually a nerf! Not me!
Please riot I can’t enjoy the game at all put her back
No Mundo nerfs?
That champ is might be strong, its js they already nerfed him so they cant afford to nerf him again when there are other champs that need balancing. They can only b/n so many champs in 1 patch
They will have to see how the BoRK nerfs affect him in 14.21
No kassadin buff?
Kass just got nerfed
@@magnov983 Undeserved nerf
@AstrumDeus ok, I cant really comment on that if you're not gonna explain
@@magnov983 Kassadin is champion that has one of the worst of not the worst early game in lol and still he is not even good late game
It’s actually so dissapointing.
How do they still fuck up irelia buffs. It’s like the 6. time they tried to change or buff her to be more viable this year and it fails everytime.
This one is a bit more excusable because they nerfed botrk, but THEY nerfed the item so compensate the champ appropriately pls 🤣
They did not nerf the item. They gutted the item. Big difference.
fuck irelia hopefully this piece of shit champ completely dies off
@@The_Lightless how did you manage to be the most annoying person with only 3 sentenced typed. That’s impressive
@tinecchi3648 they are a redd!tor out of hiding
@@tinecchi3648 how did you edit your comment and still make grammar mistakes?
back to irelia perma ban
Huge Irelia buff. Thought they need to implement it right after Jax Rpassive and Riven passive were able to geal damage to turrets. Better late than never
Better never
Edit: I'm not gonna bother responding, I can already tell people don't understand how turret fortifications and plate resistances work. Edit 2: Stay Mad 😁 Edit 3: your ad hominems are projection
Adding an assload of resistances to towers over the last few seasons, just to buff champion abilities that modify auto attacks so they can damage structures is peak Riot Balance Philosophy
Actually it kinda makes sense. They want to promote melee bruiser split pushing in top lane but worse for ranged champs and other laners like in mid or bot.
I mean turrets only ever got resistance buffs for early game.
@@jinnyplays waste my time arguing/responding to people who don't understand the game? I'm all set, thanks
@Zergleman "I am just here to say that I know everything about Riot Games balancing League of Legends"
No one cares
@@magnov983 you cared enough to respond, Bud. Also you posted like, 4 times to this video about your balance opinions, stop projecting
Bebebis
Old Swain was better ngl
Bot lane Vayne players rejoice
Petition to give Shen his Q bonus damage on towers back!!!!
Bro sucks at pushing towers, sucks at pushing waves, has insanely high cooldowns like who hates him so much? xD
He is strong now. It just feels terrible to play him against anyone that can waveclear.
but the champ is strong atm what
lol champ is broken look at all the high elo Shen mains they are smashing everyone
Play a different champ that does those things then
idk looks like a bunch of cope. Buff Hecarim.
BUFF TRUNDLE
Make his W do more damage to turrets