[POV] LIFE SAVING Emergency Escort
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- Опубликовано: 15 апр 2024
- Welcome. Today we join the motor cycle officers from Team Traffic stationed in The Hague the Netherlands. This specialized team of officers is trained in escorting emergency and VIP vehicles on route to their destination. This time, paramedics have requested an emergency escort from the city of Nootdorp to the Maasstad Hospital in Rotterdam, a 35 kilometer trip. They are called to a medical emergency and need to transport their patient and other medical staff to the hospital as fast as possible.
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next time something different like their vip escort uploaded oct 5 2022
POVs from the RUclips Channel "Beijing Volunteer First Aider" would be interesting to see with your additional commentary. And I tell you, chinese traffic is pretty harsh.
Let's applause for the officers and drivers, to get the ambulance safely to the hospital 👏
The Dutch are amazing on many levels. Very advanced in concepts and efficiency.
This brought tears to my eyes.. humanity at its best.
They did an excellent job. Thank you officers
It is good to see all of this working. I am a volunteer firefighter myself and often get to see things that could be smoother. Some try to get ahead, some try to follow through the cleared rescue lane. It can be maddening sometimes.
And if you are part of a column, some even try to cut in between emergency vehicles because they hope to get through faster. So often it is that "Me first" attitude which leads to completely preventable holdups.
On the whole, we get through very quickly more often than not. But there have been situations where some of my friends were alerted to a crash on the motorway and literally could not get through, while smoke was rising in the distance. It only takes a handful of drivers falling back into "headless chicken mode" to completely mess things up.
Eventually, the only remaining option was to get out and direct people to get out of the way, one-on-one. Half a mile running on foot, in blistering heat and while wearing full turnout gear, having to make sure they don't get run over and having to direct traffic. They were drenched in sweat even before the actual work began. I believe a handful of drivers got citations that day because they constantly kept trying to cut in front of fire trucks (IMO they deserve to have their licenses suspended for a good while).
if you are such a prick that you endanger lives for you getting to your destination a few minutes faster. then you definitly deserve to not have a lot of privileges incl your liscence since your just an awfull person at that point.
@@leeuwengames315 💯
This is very cool! And the respect that’s shown for the emergency unit is amazing. This should be done in the States, but I can’t see that happening. Too many try to speed up to get ahead of the units. And too many times I’ve seen them an ambulance in traffic trying to get people to move out of the way and the people refuse to move! In the meantime, someone is dying! But if the shoe was on the other foot, oh, then the attitude will change. Also, the so-called emergency lane we have is full of trash, debris, and broke down vehicles…. beware of using that to get through traffic. It’s sad really. But this video shows just how important it is to have such a system and how it can really work to save lives. Well done.
... 'so-called emergency lane we have is full of trash, debris, and broke down vehicles'. Thats one reason why in Germany we use another approach on our multi-line streets like the Autobahn (German highway). Right before and during traffic jams, all vehicles on the top most left lane are forced to go as much possible to the left and all other lanes go to the right. Thus forming an empty emergency lane between the leftmost and the next lane. As it it using the space between most used 'normal' lanes, you won't find debris, trash or broke down vehicles there.
Americans are generally poorly trained drivers. Dutch drivers are all professionally trained to a high degree and educated on how to drive attentively.
@@Opa_AndreI lived in Frankfurt AM Main area in the mid 80’s. I never saw the autobahns like you see in the US. There is pride in keeping the roads clear. Like you mentioned, the pulling over method of allowing emergency vehicles access to a scene further down the Autobahn made a big difference. I remember when there was a crash on the Autobahn it was more like airplane crash. The method of clearing the center lane made a difference in those involved in the crash getting the help they needed. I work in Emergency Services in the US and it is nothing to have people trying to block you from getting ahead of them. Some are so self center they do not care about others. Never in saw that in FRG.
with teams of people like these in video many people are still alive today and many many more are kept safe on the roads they used RESPECT
Even if it is rush hour when emergency vehicles with lights and sirens, everyone makes room for them as soon as possible. That's what we learned from our parents and driver's schools. If you're doing your driver's exam and this happens, you have to move out of the way or you fail your exam. That's how we do it in the Netherlands, no bs
We do in the UK to, well the locals do !
Escort is what ambulance and firefighters needed when it is traffic jam to get thru fast, specially when emergency vehicles need to respond quickly, you know!
Amazing. Very good coordination, very well done by the drivers of the rest of the vehicles and very good group work.
This is how professional police look like, not the usual money cashiers.
That's what I call a perfect collaboration 🫡🫡
This is so incredibly intelligent. I wish they would implement this escort system in the US.
Another awesome video from the Netherlands, thanks from New Zealand 👍
What an excellent work of the officers. And how much respect the car and truck drivers show to them. Here in germany, normaly not possible without threatening with licence loss. I realy appreciate the calm of the Netherlands traffic
All this for one ambulance? Netherlands really cares for there souls.
Not all the ambulances get a police escort. It has to be a big emergency to be granted one. But yes, we do have specialized police teams who are trained to provide escorts.
My dad took a ride like this in Amsterdam, regular guy. Icu to Icu transport, it's really nice to see these guy's pulling up when you really need them. Btw, it's free, no charge
I remember the A13 as a road that would be nose to tail all day long, even at 100 K/H. Evening rush hour would not hqave helped, but as usual the "Verkeers Politie Den Haag" thrive in these situations.
Excellent job, well delivered. I was once in the back of an ambulance under similar circumstances having been shot in the head with an air rifle.
Great Job officers!
My adrenaline was rushing for that entire video. Absolutely amazing.
In New York State USA, if NY State Troopers are doing this and people don't move over, you receive a ticket in the mail for $500, for not making way for an emergency vehicle.
And it's also 3 points taken on a driver's license when a judge has your case in court. NY State Troopers DO NOT play games on NY highways.
And you can't say you didn't see them, because they have specialized lights that are much different and MUCH brighter than normal police.
Wow! These folks definitely earn their paychecks!😊
Well done video, even better job done by the police.
Thank you once again for another amazing video. 🙏🙏🙏
Sra.Ministro Piña ! Mi apoyo total e incondicional!!! Es UD. Ejemplo de legalidad y honestidad !
Si algo puedo hacer para ayudar estoy a sus órdenes.
good to know these escort motorcycles exist. i have not been aware of these and been in NL a few times now. so if i ever encounter one i know what is happening and what to do. gj on enducating me
OUTSTANDING TEAMWORK
Skilled Riders
Intimate knowledge of roads
Great Communication
Outstanding Situational Awareness
Bravo Zulu is an old naval term for job well done.
BRAVO ZULU to all involved
Nice video again, I like your commentary a lot! Keep it up!
Like a well oiled machine as always.
RESPECT FOR THE REAL LIFE SUPER HEROES 😣😣😣😣😣🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I'm sure mostdrivers learn about the technique and help by responding correctly.
Such wholesome adrenaline!
Fantastic job.
Amazing teamwork, I’ve seen a few of this videos from around the world, I must say the Police do an incredible job, it’s because it’s between Life & death, Literally. I’m a subscriber
i would have liked a back dash too - to see the ambulance actually getting through smoothly
Really impressive.
Hello again, let's clarify the [inaudible].
11:29 "Zo te zien kunnen jullie daarna blijven rijden" -> Looks like you can continue driving after it.
@Tyrope Thank You! :)
Pulling over for emergency vehicles? Californians should learn to do that.
I was a police officer in Southern California for over 30+ years and I have seen first hand what drivers do when they see an emergency vehicle approaching and they are: pull to the left (in U.S., you are REQUIRED to pull to the right side of the road and stop), stop in the travel lane (either right of left), continue driving in the travel lane like nothing is happening, try to pull ahead of the emergency vehicle, turning in front of emergency vehicles, following responding emergency vehicles through stop lights and busy intersections and the list goes on. Props to the citizenry who are obviously watching their mirrors and move out of the way making response much easier and safer. Also a thank you to the professional motor officers. You guys did a GREAT JOB.👍👍👍👍👍👍
The Mets SEG (special escort group) work on similar principles in London, usually escorting royalty or foreign dignitaries etc. They're impressed to watch 👌🏻👌🏻
goed werk mannen,soms zijn we wel blij met de politie
The netherlands would benefit if the overhead displays on roads could be used in one way or another to give the escort a path
United states should have this protocol, seriously, this would be in fact a lot faster to say the least. this is the most outstanding teamwork i've ever seen to this day.
'This is for the united states by the way. that way if the police escort to the ambulance when someones life is on the line, that way the police can issue a citation to those karens and kens. i can't stand those idiots. instead of the ambulance going in solo police escort in front and or in the back or something like that.
These guys are good! I'd order a pizza from them.
Just opened Yt and saw your video nice vid!
@Jonydepony Thank You!
These are vids from the Dutch police posted by themselves. This channel only adds some voiceover. Credits were they belong.
@@koene12 I know i am from the Netherlands!
Respect
Convoy tactics are well played out in the Netherlands
I wonder how many people rejoin the roadway after the lead bike passes, not thinking there's more?
26:43 I'm surprised they didn't use the shortcut using the bus lane
In Europe and Asia, a lot of countries have a national police agency, meaning one police agency for the whole country. In the United States, there many law enforcement agencies. There are federal, state, county, and local (city, regional). Having the police escorting an ambulance to a hospital or medical center, to some politicians, will be a waste of money. Then you have the drivers who don't respect the sirens because it interrupt the routine lives. Then, each city or county have to take over the escorting, even going to another hospital in another state. To some, it's not worth the time or money.
0:32 might I suggest as narration; As responders are in place taking care of the patients, our escorts are awaiting any possibility to satisfy their needs for safe evacuation.
I bet these riders are missing the mighty K1600’s
Also a nice video....but i have to say ...lol i do this also , im a Dutch officer from Amsterdam
We saw a lot of emergency lane's and the awesome impacts to the left lane...most of the time we immediately go to the fast lane because also in holland it not allowed to stay on this lane
There is always a extra chance something or someone is standing or laying on the emergency lane's
Bikes dont like that..
Amazing to see! I have spend some hours on this roads, crazy busy in rush hours.
All I can add is that given some of the speeds here, a fearful amount of faith was placed in the other road users, I was honestly scared this biker was going to be taken out at any time on that motorway run passing on the inside of all that traffic or in the ‘emergency lane’ and picking up a puncture.
I don’t think this operation could have been performed on the UK or English roads without incident, given the amount of stupidity that can be seen here.
By Paris, and certainly London, standards this was a smooth ride in fluid traffic. It requires a lot more anticipation and organizing to create a corridor in completely jammed streets. And as soon as there is an emergency lane available they jump to it right away. They don't waste precious minutes filtering in the middle of traffic when they have an opportunity to zip around it.
It's not common for Dutch emergency services to go through the middle. They usually clear the left lane or right shoulder. I wonder why they choose the middle in this case.
we do use the middle lane more often nowadays, especially when the emergencylanes and shoulders are to narrow to use to pass by.
Small correction I noticed at the start. Nootdorp isn't nearly big enough to be called a city. It's a village. :)
I should know, I live there. :P
Even small towns can be a city. It depends if it has city rights on not.
@@Linda-hs1lk There is no such thing as city rights anymore since the "gemeentewet"..
@@DrNoobius well if a town received city rights in the past, it still counts as a city. Sloten as an example. It is a city, but only has about 700 people living there.
@@SandsOfArrakis in a historical context you are right. But the “gemeentewet” made the cities and village division unnecessary. There are only “gemeenten” - municipalities…
Would say highway escort is not good. At some point they direct cars on shoulder, then they switch them self to shoulder. It would definitely confuses drivers, why emergency don't use shoulder to pass by..
How many details do they notice?
Even the big pothole at 24:09 was noticed and most likely reported to the ambulance driver.
They do report bumps.
In other videos you hear that a lot.
wasn't this posted before with slightly different commentary and now deleted. there is also another duplicate video in the videos tab near the bottom. Still, great video.
@alexandervanhal Thank you for notifying us about the duplicate video. It has now been removed. The video you are commenting under is brand new on Emergency POV.
so nice to watch but i wish there was a cam in the back, sometimes im trying a little to hard to see whats happening behind the MC, how far back is the ambulance, hows pedestrians doing when the first MC has passed and so on.
There are quite a few “verkeerspolitie” videos from NL on youtube where most of the time the mirrors are in frame so you can see the ambulance approaching. If you search for the term above you should find quite a few.
11:31 i would use that route
What is THE LAW for motorists there?
In the U.S., it's up to individual states -
all 50.
MY state law requires you to pull as far Right As Possible and STOP.
That may cause problems on highways... as well as confusion with out-of-staters !
You yield and/or make way for emergency vehicles with lights and sirens on, you never stop on the highway unless they tell you to like they did in this video.
in some EU countries if trafic starts jamming, you need to make an emergency line. In my country if you see blue light and hear sirens, you need to give way. If you see blue and red lights and sirens, you need to stop on the right side immediately and freeze till another(last) car with a just blue light comes. The you can move.
Pretty much half of people does not know that. And when they go abroad, they are wondering, why you do need to fcuk off the way in such a situacions(most slavic idiots).
General law all over Europe is that you always drive in the rightmost lane available (leftmost in UK). When emergency vehicles come to you they take precedence over everything. You simply follow their instructions. Just as you can see here they will signal if they want you to stop, move to the left or right, or move on to make room. As long as you don't waste time trying to overthink things and you follow their indications, it all goes smoothly. They are well trained. They know what they do and why. Just let them handle it. Some people sometimes try to help too hard by anticipating the decision that seems logical to them and they actually get in the way because the escort had a different plan. So best attitude is to just stay calm and let them guide you.
When you understand that hearing a siren means that for a few seconds someone else is going to make all the decisions for you, it becomes a relief rather than a stress.
Here I can see the worth of a Emergency Lane like german drivers learn to make when traffic jam... ok 70% know what to do.
How is it possible for the police to signal with the right hand while keeping the bike going? Is the gas not controlled with the right handle? He sometimes even signals with both hands. How was he able to keep the bike’s balance?
Amazing work! Thanks for saving lives! Just genuinely curious though. It seems that the bike they rode only has two wheels.
2 possibilities:
* modified bike with a gas pedal
* right handle that has enough friction to hold its position on its own. When I was a teenager I had a moped with this very useful "feature".
These bikes have cruise control
still dont get why they keep on the emergency lane that is usually full of junk and a good wat to get flat tires . i know in the netherlands they are not obligated to make a lane for emergency vehicles ( or mothercycles ) but as the traffic is rolling at a normal speed there is more then enough time and space to clear the third lane .
no junk in the netherlands, and we are obligated to make a lane if possible
@@joostvanderlee9569 yes your highways are a lot cleaner , and why can't you dutch people do so in belgium as well . half the time someone hugging the white line is a dutch licence plate .
One major part of highway workers' job all over Europe is to keep emergency lanes clean of debris exactly because they are very useful in gaining precious time on emergency transports.
@@christianbarnay2499 never been to Belgium have you :D ?
@@blackarmored I said that's their job. I never said they do it.
The roadways are nuts. Make no sense for such small narrow 1 lane road with little islands jutting out
what are you even talking about
@@joostvanderlee9569 I think he's American!
@@Brozius2512 jup
The Officers on those Motorcycles are doing a great job in getting the Ambulance to the Hospital, but it looks like they need to build another Hospital a little closer that still took a long way for them to get to a Hospital. Just my view of seeing this video.
There are a lot of hospitals in the Netherlands and closer by but they went to the Rotterdam Erasmus hospital because that is a highly specialised hospital. I suppose the patient needed some special care.
we do have closer hospitals
30 minutes by road is not a long way. Also as stated at the start of the video emergency patients are usually transported by helicopter. But this patient condition was incompatible with an air ride. And it was under active medical care during the entire trip, which also explains why it took 30 minutes. The ambulance did not go at full speed to avoid causing more damage to an already very fragile patient.
@@christianbarnay2499actually the helicopters are almost exclusively used to get a specialized trauma physician on the scene quickly. The helicopters can carry a patient but they are so small there is no room inside do treat the patient during the air lift, something that is almost always necessary in this kind of situations. Hence in the majority of cases an ambulance is called in for the actual transport of the patient. The trauma physician then travels with the patient in the ambulance to the hospital.
@@b.anders You're right. This is a plains environment. My view of emergency helicopter usage is based on mountain environments where they are often a better option compared to sinuous road trips.
did the man at 1:43 really gesture to "slow down"?
not clear
yes, that is what i saw. stupid.
What model bike? The officer was giving right hand signals, his throttle hand, sticky throttle, how do they maintain speed?
At least BMW R 1200 RT and YAMAHA MT 07 TRACER.
They use cruise control :)
Doh!! Showing my age there, obvious one now.
Thank you.
BMW R 1200, with a small lever on the left side of the handle bars for the throttle (Right side, normal gas, left side small thumb operated lever)
Looking at the windscreen and the clear wind deflectors in front of the bars it looks like a Honda NT 1100
This wouldn't work in Australia. In Australia looking in one's mirrors is considered an act of homosexuality.
How does the rider gesture with his right hand and still keep the throttle open?
probably some sort of cruise control, I guess
@@NatsirtMats Gentle friction attachment, any biker can buy one.
Left hand throttle. This is in Europe, not US.
@@zerogiven1956 that is not a thing
@@oko2708 left hand throttle is absolutely a thing
I wanna ask one thing:
In many country officers blocking the intersection wait until the subject (eg ambulance) vehicle pass it. Why it's not the case in the Netherlands?
I'm not sure, but Dutch streets and roads are generally narrower than those of other countries. It's a traffic calming feature, it reduces speed and eases the flow. Even for a motorbike it can be unsafe and time consuming to overtake the ambulance again. At any rate, the stopped drivers will see the ambulance and accompanying police car already at the intersection, so they know to wait a bit longer.
usually these kinds of escorts are done with 3 police vehicles and the vehicle that is escorted (in this case the ambulance)
- 2 of the police vehicles clear the road ahead. when one is at an intersection the 2nd goes to the intersection that comes after that one.
- the 3rd police vehicle drives in front of the ambulance.
- once the 3rd police vehicle and the ambulance are close to the intersection (the civilians are able to see and hear them), the vehicle that is blocking the intersection can move on and go secure the next intersection.
if they would wait for the ambulance to clear the intersection before moving, one of the escort vehicles would be "stuck" behind the ambulance. and to get back in front of it would cause extra/unnecessary danger for that vehicle and the civilians.
in some videos you're able to see that the vehicle blocking the intersection often wait until the ambulance is only (around) a 100 meters form the intersection.
The ambulance are Normally real close behind the officers
In the Netherlands if a police officer is blocking an intersection you know something special is coming.
Think you will find three leading motorcycles, then team captain and ambulance who are in view when last leader moves forward.
Well done team escort.
This is what pro-life looks like, all this for 1 regular person in need of help, no charge!
Why don't they close a lane with a red cross, if posible ofcourse?
They are generally closed for other reasons. Police escorts don't warrant a red cross.
because we dont want traffic to stop on the highway
Those whistles seems pretty futile, though. Do they actually work? Can you hear them while sitting in a car in traffic?I mean, after all the sirens and stuff?
oh yea absolutely
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UK Special Escort Group are probably the best of the best but these folks sure have their act together too, nicely done!
Different job description.
@@PBMS123 I may be wrong but I have a memory of video where SEG did a high speed transplant organ transfer run across London, of course the video may have been mislabeled in the first place. Excepting the armed protection aspects of the job the skill set is similar and I suspect, other than riding on the left, it wouldn't take much integrate any of these riders into a an SEG escort run.
@@raysutton2310 SEG is very different to this. SEG don't run sirens, they only run whistles. They don't part traffic, or make people pull over etc. they're not trying to get someone or something to point B as quickly as possible, they make it as smooth as possible, and also never stop.
They will stop an intersection ahead when traffic is moving/empty. But their most notable skill is not stopping even in peak hour/standstill traffic. And can ride at insanely slow speeds, a very almost opposite technique to US motorcades, instead of running 20 vehicles with 100s of armed people, blocking streets across the entire route with 100s more police along the route. You have 3 bikes, 3 cars including the package car.
The SEG guys can ride at slower than walking pace and can get through traffic without ever having the motorcade come to a proper stop.
All the SEG guys are still police, and have plenty of training, so I have no doubt they could run a transplant/ambulance escort with blues and 2s, I don't think you could slot any cop into SEG and have them do the job properly. Met police motorbike cops can still run these types of escort duties.
they are at least at lot less noisy, but i think in the Netherlands you are obligated to run the sirens the whole time .
@@PBMS123they do on occasion ambulance escorts as well but most ambulances are faster without escort. the priority here is getting a stable speed over the whole ride so medical staff can do its work or not to further injuries as for exampel neck or spinal injuries . seg main job is vip escorts . these guys are all round local motorcycle cops so they mostly do normal traffic work
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"geniet" van de clips. ben je zelf de motoragent? Ik heb een clip gezien, waarin de agent "swingend" door het verkeer ging, om aan te geven dat men aan de kant moest. Misschien een tip?
dat is dezelfde groep van deze video denk ik
"Weather conditions are favorable"
In fact they are not. The roads are quite wet. Especially the road markings can be quite slippery for motorcyclists. Of course these officers are well trained though.
That's pretty normal weather here. Bad weather means a lot of rain.
"Favorable", not "ideal"
no very normal weather here
Maybe if there wasn't so much ridiculous road calming furniture
what
@@joostvanderlee9569 Another American.
@@Brozius2512 jup
Well, seeing that they did their job, their driving is something that any accomplished rider could do. There was nothing special in their skills. The police horn cleared the traffic for them.
you do it, post a video where you do this, hater
In the Netherlands we have a saying "De beste stuurlui staan aan wal".
Please stop calling it an emergency lane, as it isn't. It's the right hard shoulder. It is only available if you are experiencing issues with your vehicle or if you or one of your passengers is getting very sick… You must never drive on the hard shoulders. The fact that emergency vehicles will use the hard shoulders does not make it an emergency lane or make it right… They face legal issues if they cause an accident while driving on the shoulder. How do I know? I am a retired fire-fighter.
Politie en ambulance mogen dat wel.
You have made a fool of yourself, this isnt a hard shoulder at all. When he was calling it an emergency lane it WAS an emergency name also going by the names of breakdown lane and soft-shoulder. The hard shoulder is the shoulder that is in certain parts of the right hand side and all along the middle barrier where there is not enough room to safely stop without protruding into the traffic flow. Hard shoulders also appear on roadsides where there is a gully and there isnt enough space to allow a whole vehicle to safely pull over.
@@Icessassin Allow me to be a fool. After driving fire trucks for 30 years, I know where emergency lanes are. Your talking alone doesn't make it right.
@@doubledeckerbus-foundation Google a soft shoulder. Hard shoulders are hard not huge places you can park a boat
That would depend on where you are from. Since you used "right hard shoulder" I'll guess you're British. The shoulder is called the emergency lane in many countries. It can also be called the breakdown lane. If you hadn't used right hand shoulder, I'd have taken you for an American, thinking only your way exists.
Why don't they just take a helicopter?
he explained it at the beginning. on the helicopter they cannot give the treatment this case needed. so it was not an option
The helicopter is hardly ever (almost never?) used for transport of the patient. The landing site is usually too far away, the authorities involved seem a helicopter not a place to treat a patient and the stresses involved with flying are also not deemed positive for the patient. The ambulance is considered a more capable and fitting transportation for the Netherlands. In some cases a doctor is brought to the patient using a helicopter but the ambulance usually arrives first back at the hospital.
Four main reasons:
1. no helipad at the hospital which would necessitate another transfer by ambulance / not meeting weather criteria at the scene or destination
2. the time and risk to unload a critical patient from the ambulance and secur him into the helicopter might negate the faster travel time (incl. takeoff, flight time + approach and shutdown the net benefit would have been about 15 minutes in this case IF the patient was already in the aircraft)
3. CPR or airway complications (or a high likelyhood thereof en-route) renders the helicopter useless for transport as in the EC-135 / H135 it's either resuscitation OR flying but not both due to its severe space limitations.
4. with only 4 HEMS aircraft in the entire country you'll try to keep the turnaround times as low as possible.
@@chrisr8996 we have 8 air ambulances.
2 for the islands we have, them being PH-OOP and PH-HOW
4 active ones, them being PH-LLN, PH-TTR, PH-UMC and PH-DOC
2 reserves, them being PH-HVB and PH-MAA
@@Hermit_Wish which brings the effective number you can use on a day to day basis to four :) Didn't know about the ones for the Waddeneilanden though, thanks! Interesting that they use 145's
Just lucky the victim wasn’t a calf