Dear All, I’m Mitch, the Director of Sicuro....owner of the Van in question. We sincerely apologise on behalf of Sicuro UK for the upset and unjustifiable behaviour. This behaviour is not condoned at any level and Sicuro can confirm that the driver seen in this footage, no longer works for Sicuro UK. Again Sicuro would like to apologise for the upset and will continue to run with strict policies with a zero tolerance to such appalling behaviour Mitch
Kudos for posting. Normally I'm against the interwebs torch-wielding "fire 'em" type, but considering your business, an employee this oblivious in traffic isn't likely to be any more attentive guarding a location. I hope you can use this as an opportunity to train your people to keep their heads on a swivel even when they think it's just moving from a to b.
When you work for a company and display the brand like this, it damages the companies image (obviously!), so good to see that you hold your employees accountable for their actions.
@@puentebob2011 If you represent a company in such a way that can be damaging to the portrayal of said company, you can be sacked on the spot. That is without including the contract agreed upon by both the employer and employee which may or may not outline situations that center around poor representation of a company, which could also more than justify the firing of the employee. Don't pretend to know what you don't.
I have been a professional driver for around 20 years and driving over 40 and I have to say the level of concentration is extraordinary. Hats off to the driver. Brilliant driving...
@@devon896 most dual carriageways deal with a whole lot less traffic and there is only really one place for the E.V. to go, straight down between the two lanes, however a motorway such as in this case has 3 lanes, and as demonstrated multiple times during this video, a lot of people don't use their mirrors and also get easily confused
I think people like that need to be fined for not moving over, Cause every second/minute waiting for some dick who's not paying attention is a risk too somebody's life. I mean this kind of thing just proves how people aren't aware of there surroundings at all.
@@maverick4220 I know it's 2 years late, but good chance he's talking about the US. We don't mess around with blocking emergency vehicles. It carries huge penalties.
I sent a email to Sicuro - the company of the van blocking the vehicle and not pulling over, and I got a reply back that the driver of the van has been fired from the company...
It never fails to amaze how stupid the average driver is. Literally not moving out of the way for 999 vehicles. These people should be contacted after the event and sent on a self funded driver awareness course!
I honestly think the "average" driver is OK. It's the below average ones that are the dickheads. Most people moved out of the way, or at least attempted to.
@@MrSolodriver the amount of inattentive drivers on the road outweighs the attentive ones, so technically speaking the "average driver" is blissfully unaware of their surroundings until something goes bang. As a former blue light driver and motorcyclist I too have seen some utter stinkers on the road, but have also seen some (unfortunately less than the former) absolutely brilliant and aware drivers. I mean just for one example, I was on a big 1100 cc Honda with full hi Viz livery, blue led strobes to the front, side and rear, a blue xenon strobe, 100watts of siren sounding, wearing hi Viz jacket, white helmet and travelling along a single carriageway road... Car approaches the giveway to my left and doesn't stop, with me about 50-60 yards away at about 70 mph, cars coming in opposite direction so had to brake heavily and thread my bike down the white line to avoid him... Since then the junction has been made a stop junction instead of giveway... I had a transplant organ on board at the time, the driver didn't even look.
The average driver is clearly perfectly competent as it was only the odd few individuals that caused any issues. It is the self righteous that think they know it all that are the problem.
Very good demonstration of how vital it is to keep calm and just execute one task at a time but plan for the next 5. This is why we need to keep the hard shoulder!
@@jamesball8966 I worked on highways and freeways in my country for years. Problem with any shoulders is its riddled with nails and screws and all sort of puncture stuff.
@monsieurtechnical 100% agree with you on this one, I know us Brits often don't like change, but when the change is as stupid as this, I think we have a right to revolt!
Personally I'd argue that it's a lack of driver awareness. We could have roads without hard shoulders, but the knowledge of a German style "Rettungsgasse" and practicing it, would provide a much needed corridor for emergency response. Here the hard shoulder disappeared every so often, leading to a frenzy through stationary vehicles... rettungsgassee in place would be a critical time save
With a smart motorway, there would have been a lane closure, enforced by signals and cameras, preventing the bulk of traffic from using it. The response time would have been quicker than in this video. Source: Im a responder.
@@pentaveratevideo and how long would it have taken for the lane to be cleared, as the traffic can only squeeze into so much space, whereas the hardshoulder would already be clear?
@@MrMellowMan the hard shoulder is almost never clear. People pull onto it to try and bypass the traffic and there are a number of other issues related to using the hard shoulder. I've literally just finished dealing with a live lane RTC and worked my way between lanes 3&4 which were able to clear a space for me very easily. When there is an obstruction on the hard shoulder it's considerably more difficult to get past it.
@@pentaveratevideo the hard shoulder is much clearer than no hard shoulder. I used to sometimes drive over a thousand miles a day, all on motorways, so you telling me you are a emergency response driver doesn't tell me anything at all. I am going by this video, and I know if the hard shoulder was clear, the emergency response would have got there a lot quicker, whereas iif there was no hard shoulder, it would have taken longer to get there
@@MrMellowMan I've been doing it. Today. Intermittent hard shoulder so I stayed working through the 2 offside lanes except when it became necessary to move over. I don't care how many miles a day you drive, you don't force your way through traffic with flashing lights and audible warnings. I do and I can tell you that offside lanes are often the best choice when traffic is either stopped or less than walking speed. When it's still moving slightly, hard shoulder will usually be my preference.
That IDIOT van driver 00:30 - 01:42 would loose his licence immediately in ANY cultured European country. There is another brain dead at 04:07 and an MTS "professional" driver at 05:05. It's just outrageous, that UK drivers can do whatever they want. What a shame! 100% agree with @Damian C and a big respect to @Mitch Nunn.
like other countries it should be compulsory for us to move over to the edge/white line if in traffic, so it leaves enough room for cars to get through in instances like this
No, it is the lack proper knowledge from all the drivers here. in the Netherlands and in Germany they already have smart motorways and it works excellent because all driver know to make V-shape (make a new lane in the middle) as emergency services drive by. In the Netherlands a smart motorway can also make a free lane in advance for emergency transport or for example if a car has a failure in live lanes.
@Berty Mugwump The hard shoulder has historically been used (and still is) for broken down vehicles. Emergency vehicles travelling down there in excess of 70mph as you suggested would be very dangerous given the possibility of completely stationary vehicles and people outside of their vehicles too (as demonstrated in this very clip). And while i respect most of the emergency services, the way some of them drive is terrible, especially given the fact they are meant to have been trained to do so. Ambulance drivers around my way are some of the worst drivers on the road. Only two weeks ago I witnessed one ambulance driver going the wrong way round a roundabout and nearly flipping his vehicle (with a patient inside) by hitting a curb extremely hard. Pretty sure putting an ambulance on two wheels isn't part of the training.. Either way, I wouldn't want to see these poorly trained drivers going that fast in the hard shoulder, it'd just lead to more deaths.
0:31 The guy in the SECURO van that refused to move over should be prosecuted. How can you have an emergency vehicle behind you for a full minute and not notice that they're there? That's just ridiculous. God only knows how long he'd have been stuck behind the moron had he not undertaken; If this is not an offence then it should be. Too many people these days are driving around in a damn daze.
everyone should do what the German's do for emergency vehicles they'll get there quicker roads will open quicker but people don't pay attention what coming from behind or pay attention to the road conditions
@@stobart1993 To be fair James the Autobahn has numerous posters telling people to move out to the edges of the lane to keep the message ongoing. Oddly, back in the day, when obtaining a German driving licence was a exercise in it's self people had it drilled into them on the Autobahn section of their learning, and from memory, which can be fallible, I didn't remember seeing such posters.
@@steve1978ger yep, it's often called the hard shoulder and is also supposed to be used in an emergency by normal road users, This is yet another reason why smart motorways are such a bad idea
The skill of this driver avoiding so many chances for a collision is quite incredible. Other driver's reactions are so variable and the emergency driver has to keep their cool in the face of things that would cause most normal drivers to "lose their rag" I'm well impressed by this. It's hard enough to filter down queues on a touring motorcycle as I've done that but with a large vehicle it's a nightmare.
This is next level driving. I'm exhausted just watching it! Once you arrive, there's no time to stop for a brew either. My hat is most definitely off!!
Wow, that was 15 mins of sphincter clenching. Not sure I could have been so patient with drivers that NEVER look in their rear view mirrors or sit in lane 3 singing along to their favourite little mix track. Don’t think I could have done that without at least 1/6 doz fender benders. Well done driver.
@@gerryquinn8390 Why? We simply have different traffic laws and a different style of emergency driving. Something we do and concider as safe is probably concidered as unsafe over there and the other way around
@@CiaranGallagher77 we have bullhorns. I live near a main road, it's an A road but not a dual carriageway and hear bullhorns quite often. Theres some tossers on that road too
I am impressed the majority of drivers seemed to have good situational awareness considering they didn't know your route or goals, I recently was blocking the path of an ambulance because the car in front of me moved of the carriageway and stopped stopping me from moving of the carriageway to allow the ambulance to it's destination it was only repeated sound of my airhorn that resolved the situation
Sinky I think traffic officers like the one behind sound be able to use blue lights because in most cases they can be the first on scene while the law is you have to move over for traffic officers when they have there ambers on most people don’t know that law or they just simply think that they are a vehicle recovery firm trying to cheat and beet the traffic
And this is why TCU should have blues like other emergency vehicles, as ambers mean jack nothing... do you see a dustbin truck, diggers, cranes, tow trucks - all using ambers, and let them through just because they have flashing lights? Nope. Ambers are only for visibility, not emergencies.
This video is driving me nuts.... So many people need to be off the road and counted with disabilities to be walked with someone else's help... Complete lack of self awareness... What about the rest? I'm just thinking how they manage to put food in their mouth... What a place to be, really?!?!? 🤧
Here in the USA... for Oregon and Washington state at least... you get cited and fined for "failure to yield to emergency vehicle". The citation goes to the owner of the car as taken from the license plate, and the fine is owed by the owner of the vehicle UNLESS that owner can prove they weren't driving the vehicle. They have to provide the name and contact info for who WAS driving it, or they pay the fine. Not sure how much it is, as I've never been such a drone as to not move out of the way, but it's likely pretty steep. I know people who drive like that... mindless drones who have zero idea and even less care for what's going on around them. They drive me absolutely insane, they're terrifying to ride with, and however nice a person they might be... it's REALLY hard not to tear their heads off for it. Eyes up and out folks. Ears too. Other people live and drive around you, and your actions don't only affect you.
They should teach the concept of a Rettungsgasse in the theory test! Although there were a couple of good Rettungsgassen created when there was no hard shoulder
When traffic stops the first thought should be to leave a line to emergency vehicles even if they don't come. It is the least in Europe. Should be first to teach in the UK.
It did get an extra lane, a lot of the M4 east of Cardiff is like it, although the section in the video is now a smart motorway and all of the bridges had to be demolished and new ones were usually lifted in as an off-site build. Smart motorway is now very much built-in to the design as the bridges won't ever be changed again.
Reminded Me of a 320 Kilometres Run I once made with Lights and Sirens, in a 4 Wheel Drive, from Port Augusta Police Station to Police Headquarters in Adelaide (South Australia) although to be fair My Traffic was just a little bit lighter.
My longest yet was 100km from north of Adelaide to Murray Bridge through peek hour traffic. There were a few times where I switched off the siren and waited as it was too heavy to get the ambulance through. It took almost 1.5hrs.
Great advert for Sicuro @0:20 to @1:40. He was certainly not monitoring or responding, other than to whatever he was streaming (evident by blocking the outside lane). Highway's Agency collision investigators must spend hours queuing unless Code 1 pick them up en route. As for the panicked Audiot @11:23, I'm glad they came to their hesitant senses despite using the hard shoulder as a layby!
I’m just surprised took the Collision investigator over 1 min 30 secs to run his beacons on. I used to light my beacons every chance I got but surely he was allowed to use them as soon as the copper picked him up.
@@andy62716 It's sth done in e.g. Germany, Austria and few other countries. Once vehicles approach and end up in a traffic jam all vehicles in the left lane pull to the far left, all vehicles lane(s) to the right pull to the right (in the UK obviously the other way around). This creates a corridor for emergency vehicles between the far left and the other lanes, no matter if there's a hard shoulder or not, no matter if the hard shoulder is wide enough, too narrow, free or blocked: ruclips.net/video/7kPT7VHVTb8/видео.html
Those sirens on main car are awfully quiet and not attention grabbing otherwords easy to miss and why did the response car behind not have his lights on for like most of the driving? very dangerous...people normally clear out way then immediately return back to normal positions and there was a few times that volvo almost got squished...like he puts them on while driving on pointless shoulder then soon as back in traffic turns them off..are they not allowed to use lights or something? don't see point in them having lightbars and stuff or even having these people if they have to sit back in traffic like everyone else.
Thank you I was wondering who that was behind the officer. I'm from the states and our highway patrol officers conduct collision investigation. Always neat to learn how other countries do things.
@@SOAxZIPPER Yeah usually our police have their own collision investigation units. That must have been some form of private company that the police requested.
@Googleisgay Googleispaedos lmao its not even a police car you fud 🤦♂️ pathetic some people trying to find any excuse they can to make a dig at the police when they dont have the slightest idea what they're talking about
@@EastSussex999 It's the Transport Research Laboratory. They used to be part of the Department for Transport, they've since been privatised although they continue to do the same work under contract.
For those wondering why there's a "toot" every time the siren changes, it's because the horn pad is pressed to cycle through wail and yelp. Our ambulances also have a bullhorn sound if the horn pad is pressed for more than a couple of seconds. I know the frustrations! Here's mine. ruclips.net/video/vtHiAIVgfrg/видео.html
Excellent driving, and your patience was on point. Cheers from a former EMT from the US, I’ve noticed that it doesn’t matter what country you’re from people on the roadway can be total dipshits.
This is not the m4 as I know it. I passed my test after the start of it being turned into a smart motorway. So all I see is a construction site with 3 lanes on each side
For some reason, almost every driver hits the brakes when they realize there’s an emergency vehicle behind them The vehicle that followed the emergency vehicle was a crash investigator - usually for serious accidents!?
I always think the problem is people arent actually paying full attention...they're driving but aren't 100% focussed to their surroundings so half the time they dont hear or see the emergency vehicle until it breaks the weird zone out space drivers are in...scary when you think about it!
It always amazes me, as to how many drivers simply ignore emergency vehicle Blues & Two's, criminal I think, your clear path could mean someones life is saved,.. Great driving Sir, desite the idiots you encountered..... One day, the technology will be developed which makes emergency sirens superseed anything on a mobile radio,..
The 'van' incident reminds me of a similar occurrence on a video called 'The Liver Run'. A police vehicle was transferring a donated organ from (I think) Stansted Airport to a London hospital where the recipient was already undergoing preparatory surgery. Of course, some idiot thought it would be amusing to sit in the right-hand lane and hold the police car up. Luckily they made it to the hospital just in time, but it was close. The video is definitely worth a watch, it is on RUclips. ..
20 Years ago in July my wife received a liver transplant, the liver came from NZ to AUS I would hate to to think were I would be now if at every corner Muppets held everything up. 20 years later I think how lucky am I.
Jesus Christ! I'm holding my head in my hands!! How do these people not know that even an unmarked car with blues and twos is behind them. There's some real arsehole drivers in this - no excuse. I couldn't be an emergency services driver, I'm not that restrained!
Saying this suggests you have a short temper when driving a normal vehicle. Be more restrained - whether you have blue lights or not. Nothing good comes from the alternative.
6:27 Did 2 cars just come down the hard shoulder the wrong way to take that exit? They appeared to be driving perpendicular to the 'flow' of traffic just as you moved out to the sliproad.
Mark Wright Wow, good spot. They were bloody lucky because that might have been worth pulling over for a word had they came head on against the coppers.
Why don't the emergency services arrive on the unaffected side of the motorway and hop across the central reservation? Or drive on the wrong side of the hardshoulder from the nearest junction?
The obvious reason being The fire brigade and paramedics have lots equipment to carry. Cutting gear etc. Paramedics need the ambulance close for medical supplies and patient transfer. Driving the wrong way up a motorway hard shoulder is extremely dangerous, also should there have been a broken down vehicle on the hard shoulder, they would be completely blocked from getting to the site of the emergency. Always safer travelling in the direction of traffic flow.
Great drive and great video. Thanks for sharing. Out of interest, the accident investigators, are they a private firm? Contracted by the police or insurance based? Just being curious.
Just another typical day with drivers failing to return to near side lanes after overtaking on the motorway. It’s a result of lack of basic traffic law enforcement. How many of you now sit behind drivers hogging the middle and offside lane for no reason. This video should not surprise anybody, more motorway policing and enforcement needed.
Emergency vehicles should mount Mountain Air Horns (6 feet long tubes that at that range WILL cause the entire car to shake - NO chance of not noticing them...) - they'll move after that...
They are wide enough for a fire engine. What emergency vehicle is wider? I can't think of any apart from the air ambulances and the RNLI lifeboats, neither of which travel along the hard shoulder.
Thanks for posting - genuine question (not a dig!). What was the rush for you to get on scene? It all seemed pretty much in hand when you arrived - are you a specialist medic, for example?
One thing I hadn't noticed is that the car he talked to (and then which followed the guy) was collision investigation, I guess the need to preserve evidence is one reason? There are plenty of others I could probably think of, whether they're correct is another matter... Edit: one of them was pretty close: "As an senior incident commander it is my role to either take over or _maintain scene safety_ to allow the on scene commander to continue to deal with the incident. It is sometimes more hazardous in the closing stages as _people tend to become a little more lazy_ with their safety..." (commented on the 7mins for one mile video, with my emphasis added!)
I rember a few years ago that there was a new siren being tested which was supposed to be better at alerting other motorists of an emergency vehicle approaching. it was a kind of a buzzing sound as I think some of the motorists were clearly not hearing the police vehicle.
It was a hiss type sound, the idea being it had multiple frequencies rather than a single tone/frequency (although the police siren here changes tone, at any given point it is only one tone). It was less to do with being audible - the idea was to make it easier to perceive the direction of the siren, as single tones reflect everywhere consistently and are difficult for humans to direction find - you hear the siren but don't know where it's coming from. Doesn't seem to have taken hold with plod vehicles but it does turn up each time an HGV indicates left, before telling cyclists not to get in the squish zone.
That video demonstrated the importance to hard shoulders; they play a vital role of saving lives. The worst thing they did was to create these 'smart' motorways - There is nothing smart about them.....
Can anyone tell me why the emergency services started filtering between the lanes a few years ago when the hard shoulder was still available everywhere? White Audi on the shoulder should have gotten a ticket in the post.
6:45 etc it does make me wonder how emergency vehicles get through on a blocked 'smart' motorway. Do the gantries say "check your mirrors for emergency vehicles every five seconds" "leave space for zipping lanes"
Two things are immediately apparent. Rear view mirrors are an optional car accessory, and electronic sirens are absolutely useless- bring back the two-tone horns.
Brilliant video as always. Are the people from TRL with you, or did they take advantage of your "slipstream". Bit dicey if they had an accident, They've got no warning lights or anything, just a brightly painted car. .Keep up the sterling work you and your colleagues do...
If you notice when Nelvis saw the TRL car he stopped & asked if they were going to J5 incident & said follow me, the TRL carries amber beacons so was just as visible to other traffic, that van in outside lane was just not watching his mirrors or reacting to the blues/sirens, reckon he should be reported for obstructiing an emergency vehicle on a 999 call. some drivers are very slow to react to blues/sirens.
There was one section in the video where they were using their roof bar but for quite a bit it didn't appear they were on. Could that just be the camera recording and the LED's frequencies not being in sink for a majority of the journey or do they have regulations to follow that don't allow them to be used when moving in traffic? The stretch I saw them activated was when they were on the hard shoulder and they had lost a bit of ground from the difficulty of getting there through the traffic.
I think they can only use their ambers on the hard shoulder or at a scene. They're not permitted to use them to part traffic or make progress that way. So it was careful and selective use, weighing their training versus taking advantage of the situation! He may have kept them off when on the road for another reason, as some people deliberately block amber lights, given they're not emergency vehicles, "so why should they" attitude kicks in.
Ultra Vires Thanks for the info. That's what I was thinking about the ambers. The second part makes sense too. It's unfortunate that there are drivers that think like that, whose first thought is 'how dare they try and get ahead of me' instead of looking at the situation and thinking 'they must be trying to get to whatever is causing the holdup to get it sorted sooner for the rest of us'. Of course that 'block people trying to get ahead' wouldn't be a thought if there weren't people doing it. Waiting patiently in queues in the order we arrive is supposed to be part of our national identity. It's sad to see it fall apart. :(
Also where's there's no hard shoulder or road works happing why can we the uk take notes from other countries and make a clear lane when traffic is getting heavy? Anyone know why this doesn't happen??
Aye, I find the wailers seem to echo around and I can't pinpoint the location, 2 tones were nice and directional, if you heard them they were either in front coming the other way of following you.
Watch 4 motorcycles escorting and Ambulance from Den Hague to Rotterdam, Twos and blues only but when they get to a major junction the only have to stop in the middle and raise their hand and everything stops dead and waits. They do rolling roadblocks.
Instigate a new test that revolves around how to "work" with the emergency service to keep out of their way and give them the best opportunity to get their in the fastest time
Respectfully, no. Learning to drive is difficult enough and the thing I was taught was that emergency drivers will work around you - usually the safest/best thing to do is to stop. In later lessons I was advised not to do this in certain situations (solid line/single track roads) which makes sense, though it does require a certain amount of confidence to be "on point" for a blue light vehicle. I've done a lot of miles since then and never had to do it. Seen some other crazy shit though - broken exhausts giving off fireworks and Luton vans with open doors and unsecured furniture wobbling on the back ignoring my gesticulating as they approached the M1 slip...
This run just shows the stupidity of not having constant hard shoulders without obstructions. It wouldn't cost that much to cut the bridge back further so it still has a solid foundation. As for that Hyundai, just before you reached the waitrose lorry, I have NEVER met a Hyundai being driven by a competent driver, ever.
These unmarked cars shouldn't even be running to RTC's anyway. They should be marked highly visible cars. The marked cars have such bright lights, easy to see them a mile off
I've driven much faster than this, in an unmarked job car with no lights going. Part of my response driving course. Nothing wrong with it, as along as you're looking ahead and anticipating hazards.
Even if if wasn't painted in battenburg, 2 alternating flashing headlights and the siren oughta be enough to get you to shift. On top of that if you were in that queue, how would you know it was an rtc? Could just have easily been a firearms incident and the unmarked was the nearest ARV.
As an emergency services driver myself the individual driving the emergency services vehicle could have done so much more to encourage a positive reaction from the van driver as opposed to just sitting behind him and changing the tones of the siren
such as? i showed this to my stepfather whi drives ambulances and his response was he gets the bullhorn and a withering look of disapointment when he passes
@@Sarge92 Okay you have to bear in mind a lot of vans do not have rear view mirrors/rear windows..on a good few occasions prior to you passing the van from the inside lane...me personally I would have held back in to a following position... placed myself in to the middle lane... close the distance to an overtaking position and present your emergency lights into the van drivers nearside mirror...98% of the times that works for me in gaining a positive reaction in the situation you found yourself in.
@@Sarge92 He has external mirrors which, if his internal mirror is blocked, should be his default setting for checking traffic around (behind) him. Fact of the matter was he was/is an ignorant tw*t who tried to outrun the emergency vehicle when (multiple times) he had the opportunity to move into the middle lane.
I'm not an emergency services driver but I'm not sure I could keep my cool in that scenario with such ignorance but I have recently done an advanced driving certificate. These emergency drivers are on another level however and apart from moving from side to side etc and trying to alert a driver that you are behind by both lights and sirens not sure what else you can do. Even people in normal cars with good rear visibility have issues and a clear sign that they do not check mirrors enough or use other human senses i.e. ears as well as sight.
Dear All, I’m Mitch, the Director of Sicuro....owner of the Van in question.
We sincerely apologise on behalf of Sicuro UK for the upset and unjustifiable behaviour. This behaviour is not condoned at any level and Sicuro can confirm that the driver seen in this footage, no longer works for Sicuro UK. Again Sicuro would like to apologise for the upset and will continue to run with strict policies with a zero tolerance to such appalling behaviour
Mitch
Well done for posting this comment i normally don't agree with people being sacked but the person in questions behaviour was inexcusable. 🇬🇧👍
Kudos for posting. Normally I'm against the interwebs torch-wielding "fire 'em" type, but considering your business, an employee this oblivious in traffic isn't likely to be any more attentive guarding a location.
I hope you can use this as an opportunity to train your people to keep their heads on a swivel even when they think it's just moving from a to b.
When you work for a company and display the brand like this, it damages the companies image (obviously!), so good to see that you hold your employees accountable for their actions.
@@puentebob2011 If you represent a company in such a way that can be damaging to the portrayal of said company, you can be sacked on the spot.
That is without including the contract agreed upon by both the employer and employee which may or may not outline situations that center around poor representation of a company, which could also more than justify the firing of the employee.
Don't pretend to know what you don't.
@@puentebob2011 and I hope that one day the so called over paid blue light cowboys don't come to you aid when you need them most..
I have been a professional driver for around 20 years and driving over 40 and I have to say the level of concentration is extraordinary.
Hats off to the driver.
Brilliant driving...
You have to concentrate so much, if you let the red mist come down then you have lost it.
Watching the amount of hard shoulder work makes any sane person realise why "smart" motorways are a very bad idea!
Hypergolic I was just thinking the same.
Smart motorways! Do you realise how dangerous they are? Hope you don't break down in a live lane and pray nobody hits you you!
Yet most dual carriageways don't have any hard shoulder and work perfectly fine.
My sentiments exactly.
@@devon896 most dual carriageways deal with a whole lot less traffic and there is only really one place for the E.V. to go, straight down between the two lanes, however a motorway such as in this case has 3 lanes, and as demonstrated multiple times during this video, a lot of people don't use their mirrors and also get easily confused
0:40 Should be made to resit his test, over a minute driving without any movement for a blue light.
I think people like that need to be fined for not moving over, Cause every second/minute waiting for some dick who's not paying attention is a risk too somebody's life. I mean this kind of thing just proves how people aren't aware of there surroundings at all.
@@maverick4220 at the minimum they're driving without due care and attention.
@@maverick4220 They get fined here for failing to pull over for an emergency vehicle and at times lose their licence also..
@@peterburton3147 Where is here? Uk, USA, Germany, France?
@@maverick4220 I know it's 2 years late, but good chance he's talking about the US. We don't mess around with blocking emergency vehicles. It carries huge penalties.
I sent a email to Sicuro - the company of the van blocking the vehicle and not pulling over, and I got a reply back that the driver of the van has been fired from the company...
Did you really?
i would bet just words to shut you up
make you go away
unless they named him to you (dont put online though) i highly doubt its true
Great. Now he's got even more free time to drive like an asshole.
Ace Sul lol. Can you clamp a human?
Well done mate, got what he richly deserved.
This is another reason why we need hard shoulders and not smart motorways.
It never fails to amaze how stupid the average driver is. Literally not moving out of the way for 999 vehicles. These people should be contacted after the event and sent on a self funded driver awareness course!
Probably got earphones on...
I honestly think the "average" driver is OK. It's the below average ones that are the dickheads. Most people moved out of the way, or at least attempted to.
@@MrSolodriver the amount of inattentive drivers on the road outweighs the attentive ones, so technically speaking the "average driver" is blissfully unaware of their surroundings until something goes bang.
As a former blue light driver and motorcyclist I too have seen some utter stinkers on the road, but have also seen some (unfortunately less than the former) absolutely brilliant and aware drivers.
I mean just for one example, I was on a big 1100 cc Honda with full hi Viz livery, blue led strobes to the front, side and rear, a blue xenon strobe, 100watts of siren sounding, wearing hi Viz jacket, white helmet and travelling along a single carriageway road... Car approaches the giveway to my left and doesn't stop, with me about 50-60 yards away at about 70 mph, cars coming in opposite direction so had to brake heavily and thread my bike down the white line to avoid him...
Since then the junction has been made a stop junction instead of giveway... I had a transplant organ on board at the time, the driver didn't even look.
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The average driver is clearly perfectly competent as it was only the odd few individuals that caused any issues. It is the self righteous that think they know it all that are the problem.
Very good demonstration of how vital it is to keep calm and just execute one task at a time but plan for the next 5.
This is why we need to keep the hard shoulder!
You took the words of the hard shoulder out of my mouth
@@jamesball8966 I worked on highways and freeways in my country for years. Problem with any shoulders is its riddled with nails and screws and all sort of puncture stuff.
@monsieurtechnical 100% agree with you on this one,
I know us Brits often don't like change, but when the change is as stupid as this, I think we have a right to revolt!
Personally I'd argue that it's a lack of driver awareness. We could have roads without hard shoulders, but the knowledge of a German style "Rettungsgasse" and practicing it, would provide a much needed corridor for emergency response.
Here the hard shoulder disappeared every so often, leading to a frenzy through stationary vehicles... rettungsgassee in place would be a critical time save
@@trr4488 Unlesss cleaned, and the Highways Agency do what they can with rducing budgets.
This is another reason why hard shoulders should remain on our motorways
With a smart motorway, there would have been a lane closure, enforced by signals and cameras, preventing the bulk of traffic from using it. The response time would have been quicker than in this video. Source: Im a responder.
@@pentaveratevideo and how long would it have taken for the lane to be cleared, as the traffic can only squeeze into so much space, whereas the hardshoulder would already be clear?
@@MrMellowMan the hard shoulder is almost never clear. People pull onto it to try and bypass the traffic and there are a number of other issues related to using the hard shoulder. I've literally just finished dealing with a live lane RTC and worked my way between lanes 3&4 which were able to clear a space for me very easily. When there is an obstruction on the hard shoulder it's considerably more difficult to get past it.
@@pentaveratevideo the hard shoulder is much clearer than no hard shoulder. I used to sometimes drive over a thousand miles a day, all on motorways, so you telling me you are a emergency response driver doesn't tell me anything at all. I am going by this video, and I know if the hard shoulder was clear, the emergency response would have got there a lot quicker, whereas iif there was no hard shoulder, it would have taken longer to get there
@@MrMellowMan I've been doing it. Today. Intermittent hard shoulder so I stayed working through the 2 offside lanes except when it became necessary to move over. I don't care how many miles a day you drive, you don't force your way through traffic with flashing lights and audible warnings. I do and I can tell you that offside lanes are often the best choice when traffic is either stopped or less than walking speed. When it's still moving slightly, hard shoulder will usually be my preference.
Can't be in the UK, there were cars in lane 1!
@Can We Get To 1000Subscribers Without Any Content I think the comment contained a dash of sarcasm.
I saw a minimum of 18 drivers needing tickets sent for lane hogging, and a van driver for driving without due care and attention.
Yet more evidence of the urgent need to halt any further expansion of Smart Motorways, and restore the hard shoulders.
If that's the case then shouldn't every dual carriageway in the country also have a hard shoulder?
This video just shows how important the hard shoulder is. It should be shown to every road engineer and polition involved with road safety.
I wish TRL car stuck his lights on earlier and kept them on. I wonder why he turned them off. Nice private reg on it.
That IDIOT van driver 00:30 - 01:42 would loose his licence immediately in ANY cultured European country. There is another brain dead at 04:07 and an MTS "professional" driver at 05:05. It's just outrageous, that UK drivers can do whatever they want. What a shame! 100% agree with @Damian C and a big respect to @Mitch Nunn.
The sirens on fire officer cars always seem really quiet compared to other emergency vehicles. The one near me is quieter than a fart in a paper bag!
This is a perfect example of why the so-called 'smart motorway' is a BAD idea. If the hard shoulder is blocked as well, nothing can get through!
like other countries it should be compulsory for us to move over to the edge/white line if in traffic, so it leaves enough room for cars to get through in instances like this
Example being 7:55... If all cars were moved over it would have made a lane down the middle for the police
No, it is the lack proper knowledge from all the drivers here. in the Netherlands and in Germany they already have smart motorways and it works excellent because all driver know to make V-shape (make a new lane in the middle) as emergency services drive by. In the Netherlands a smart motorway can also make a free lane in advance for emergency transport or for example if a car has a failure in live lanes.
Smart motorway hard shoulder would be emergency use only. They wouldn't run 4 lanes and leave nothing for emergency services
@Berty Mugwump The hard shoulder has historically been used (and still is) for broken down vehicles. Emergency vehicles travelling down there in excess of 70mph as you suggested would be very dangerous given the possibility of completely stationary vehicles and people outside of their vehicles too (as demonstrated in this very clip). And while i respect most of the emergency services, the way some of them drive is terrible, especially given the fact they are meant to have been trained to do so. Ambulance drivers around my way are some of the worst drivers on the road. Only two weeks ago I witnessed one ambulance driver going the wrong way round a roundabout and nearly flipping his vehicle (with a patient inside) by hitting a curb extremely hard. Pretty sure putting an ambulance on two wheels isn't part of the training.. Either way, I wouldn't want to see these poorly trained drivers going that fast in the hard shoulder, it'd just lead to more deaths.
0:31 The guy in the SECURO van that refused to move over should be prosecuted. How can you have an emergency vehicle behind you for a full minute and not notice that they're there? That's just ridiculous. God only knows how long he'd have been stuck behind the moron had he not undertaken; If this is not an offence then it should be. Too many people these days are driving around in a damn daze.
Simple fact: UK drivers are not used to emergency vehicles doing 'lane splitting'.
most of us do
everyone should do what the German's do for emergency vehicles they'll get there quicker roads will open quicker but people don't pay attention what coming from behind or pay attention to the road conditions
@@stobart1993 - it doesn't always work, but, having a fixed scheme to make room for emergency vehicles does a lot to lessen the confusion
@@stobart1993 To be fair James the Autobahn has numerous posters telling people to move out to the edges of the lane to keep the message ongoing. Oddly, back in the day, when obtaining a German driving licence was a exercise in it's self people had it drilled into them on the Autobahn section of their learning, and from memory, which can be fallible, I didn't remember seeing such posters.
@@steve1978ger yep, it's often called the hard shoulder and is also supposed to be used in an emergency by normal road users,
This is yet another reason why smart motorways are such a bad idea
The skill of this driver avoiding so many chances for a collision is quite incredible. Other driver's reactions are so variable and the emergency driver has to keep their cool in the face of things that would cause most normal drivers to "lose their rag" I'm well impressed by this. It's hard enough to filter down queues on a touring motorcycle as I've done that but with a large vehicle it's a nightmare.
This is next level driving. I'm exhausted just watching it! Once you arrive, there's no time to stop for a brew either. My hat is most definitely off!!
Wow, that was 15 mins of sphincter clenching. Not sure I could have been so patient with drivers that NEVER look in their rear view mirrors or sit in lane 3 singing along to their favourite little mix track. Don’t think I could have done that without at least 1/6 doz fender benders. Well done driver.
More likely texting or watching pawn on his notsosmartphone
Excellent driving and video again sir!
The amount of zombies you encountered or passed on your run just proves mankind is truly doomed...
that kind of emergency driving would be concidered as unsafe here ^^
@@EnjoyFirefighting ...then i pity the poor souls in your country
@@gerryquinn8390 Why? We simply have different traffic laws and a different style of emergency driving. Something we do and concider as safe is probably concidered as unsafe over there and the other way around
There's always zombies on the M4, believe me
@@EnjoyFirefighting And what country is that?
Thank god it wasn't a 'smart motorway' with no hard shoulder!
UK needs to invest in "Rumbler" sirens, they work because you can feel them.
And a bull horn
We have them, drivers are still ignorant
@@CiaranGallagher77 we have bullhorns. I live near a main road, it's an A road but not a dual carriageway and hear bullhorns quite often. Theres some tossers on that road too
@@samuelpinder1215 it worries me how many people don't know how to react to blues and twos
I missed an ambulance with a rumbler; it sounded like a machine of some sort, and did not recognise it as a siren.
I am impressed the majority of drivers seemed to have good situational awareness considering they didn't know your route or goals, I recently was blocking the path of an ambulance because the car in front of me moved of the carriageway and stopped stopping me from moving of the carriageway to allow the ambulance to it's destination it was only repeated sound of my airhorn that resolved the situation
That's bad that the TCU was expected to sit in all that traffic.
Sinky I think traffic officers like the one behind sound be able to use blue lights because in most cases they can be the first on scene while the law is you have to move over for traffic officers when they have there ambers on most people don’t know that law or they just simply think that they are a vehicle recovery firm trying to cheat and beet the traffic
And then people complain that it takes so long to clear up an accident - I think this video clearly shows why!
And this is why TCU should have blues like other emergency vehicles, as ambers mean jack nothing... do you see a dustbin truck, diggers, cranes, tow trucks - all using ambers, and let them through just because they have flashing lights? Nope. Ambers are only for visibility, not emergencies.
This video is driving me nuts.... So many people need to be off the road and counted with disabilities to be walked with someone else's help... Complete lack of self awareness... What about the rest? I'm just thinking how they manage to put food in their mouth... What a place to be, really?!?!? 🤧
Here in the USA... for Oregon and Washington state at least... you get cited and fined for "failure to yield to emergency vehicle". The citation goes to the owner of the car as taken from the license plate, and the fine is owed by the owner of the vehicle UNLESS that owner can prove they weren't driving the vehicle. They have to provide the name and contact info for who WAS driving it, or they pay the fine. Not sure how much it is, as I've never been such a drone as to not move out of the way, but it's likely pretty steep.
I know people who drive like that... mindless drones who have zero idea and even less care for what's going on around them. They drive me absolutely insane, they're terrifying to ride with, and however nice a person they might be... it's REALLY hard not to tear their heads off for it.
Eyes up and out folks. Ears too. Other people live and drive around you, and your actions don't only affect you.
that van driver should receive a fine for not moving
A more recent comment says they left a complaint and he was fired
Never mind it’s older but I’m glad to know that people who didn’t move faced consequences
They notice you when they look up, from their mobile phone ?
They should teach the concept of a Rettungsgasse in the theory test! Although there were a couple of good Rettungsgassen created when there was no hard shoulder
Saw that in Germany, far to advanced for the Brexit mentalities over here
It's amazing how many drivers are on the road who don't use there mirrors!! It's not hard to check them
When traffic stops the first thought should be to leave a line to emergency vehicles even if they don't come. It is the least in Europe. Should be first to teach in the UK.
Perhaps a front-mounted machine gun?
Flame thrower? See what i did there?
They’re are so many people who don’t know the widths of their cars...ggggrrrrrrr. So many times I’m shouting MOOOVE!!!!!!!…
Exactly what i think
Unfortunate that so many old bridges were built without hard shoulder under them. Or is it because the motorway got an extra lane at one point?
motorway got an extra lane
That's often the case, I've seen many areas on motorways that get an extra lane and lose the hard shoulder near bridges.
It did get an extra lane, a lot of the M4 east of Cardiff is like it, although the section in the video is now a smart motorway and all of the bridges had to be demolished and new ones were usually lifted in as an off-site build. Smart motorway is now very much built-in to the design as the bridges won't ever be changed again.
Reminded Me of a 320 Kilometres Run I once made with Lights and Sirens, in a 4 Wheel Drive, from Port Augusta Police Station to Police Headquarters in Adelaide (South Australia) although to be fair My Traffic was just a little bit lighter.
My longest yet was 100km from north of Adelaide to Murray Bridge through peek hour traffic. There were a few times where I switched off the siren and waited as it was too heavy to get the ambulance through. It took almost 1.5hrs.
Great advert for Sicuro @0:20 to @1:40. He was certainly not monitoring or responding, other than to whatever he was streaming (evident by blocking the outside lane). Highway's Agency collision investigators must spend hours queuing unless Code 1 pick them up en route. As for the panicked Audiot @11:23, I'm glad they came to their hesitant senses despite using the hard shoulder as a layby!
I’m just surprised took the Collision investigator over 1 min 30 secs to run his beacons on. I used to light my beacons every chance I got but surely he was allowed to use them as soon as the copper picked him up.
@@martuhurley but then again he turned them off a few minutes later.
This video is a perfect illustration of how important ‘hard shoulders’ are.
nothing an emergency corridor wouldn't be able to fix ...
@@EnjoyFirefighting what’s an emergency corridor? I’m not being thick, I genuinely don’t know x
@@andy62716 It's sth done in e.g. Germany, Austria and few other countries. Once vehicles approach and end up in a traffic jam all vehicles in the left lane pull to the far left, all vehicles lane(s) to the right pull to the right (in the UK obviously the other way around). This creates a corridor for emergency vehicles between the far left and the other lanes, no matter if there's a hard shoulder or not, no matter if the hard shoulder is wide enough, too narrow, free or blocked: ruclips.net/video/7kPT7VHVTb8/видео.html
excellent work for helping that guy to get to the same destination
As a person that uses motorways every day, smart motorways do not work, this Is a perfect example of why we need hard shoulders
Some drivers are on another planet. It's scary!
Fantastic driving guys,(not the muppit in the van) what on earth will the emergency services do when were all forced to drive on SMART motorways !!!!!
Those sirens on main car are awfully quiet and not attention grabbing otherwords easy to miss and why did the response car behind not have his lights on for like most of the driving? very dangerous...people normally clear out way then immediately return back to normal positions and there was a few times that volvo almost got squished...like he puts them on while driving on pointless shoulder then soon as back in traffic turns them off..are they not allowed to use lights or something? don't see point in them having lightbars and stuff or even having these people if they have to sit back in traffic like everyone else.
That’s so cool the way they escorted the collision investigation car
Thank you I was wondering who that was behind the officer. I'm from the states and our highway patrol officers conduct collision investigation.
Always neat to learn how other countries do things.
@@SOAxZIPPER Yeah usually our police have their own collision investigation units. That must have been some form of private company that the police requested.
@Googleisgay Googleispaedos lmao its not even a police car you fud 🤦♂️ pathetic some people trying to find any excuse they can to make a dig at the police when they dont have the slightest idea what they're talking about
@@EastSussex999 It's the Transport Research Laboratory. They used to be part of the Department for Transport, they've since been privatised although they continue to do the same work under contract.
For those wondering why there's a "toot" every time the siren changes, it's because the horn pad is pressed to cycle through wail and yelp. Our ambulances also have a bullhorn sound if the horn pad is pressed for more than a couple of seconds.
I know the frustrations! Here's mine.
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All that congestion and then you have to deal with the incident, 1st class driving.
Excellent driving, and your patience was on point. Cheers from a former EMT from the US, I’ve noticed that it doesn’t matter what country you’re from people on the roadway can be total dipshits.
This is not the m4 as I know it. I passed my test after the start of it being turned into a smart motorway. So all I see is a construction site with 3 lanes on each side
For some reason, almost every driver hits the brakes when they realize there’s an emergency vehicle behind them
The vehicle that followed the emergency vehicle was a crash investigator - usually for serious accidents!?
I always think the problem is people arent actually paying full attention...they're driving but aren't 100% focussed to their surroundings so half the time they dont hear or see the emergency vehicle until it breaks the weird zone out space drivers are in...scary when you think about it!
Great drive, and no expletives, well done. I used to love those drives.
Thanks 👍
Excellent driving and big respect to the emergency services!
Shame it cut off at the end, wanted to see what happened...
some people havent a clue,luckily most drivers are sensible and do.
It always amazes me, as to how many drivers simply ignore emergency vehicle Blues & Two's, criminal I think, your clear path could mean someones life is saved,.. Great driving Sir, desite the idiots you encountered..... One day, the technology will be developed which makes emergency sirens superseed anything on a mobile radio,..
The emergency vehicle's preferred route was the hard shoulder. On a smart motorway that option is not there.
That's why smart motorways are a bad idea someone hasn't thought this through hope it's stopped.
Other issues aside, that police officer is an excellent driver
So stressful (and slow) without the hard shoulder to run in. Wonder what Chris feels about ‘Smart’ m-ways?
I can't get through this, drivers' stupidity knows no bounds, this is too frustrating to watch.
watching videos like these makes you wonder, why did they take out the hard shoulder, and branded it as smart motorway
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The 'van' incident reminds me of a similar occurrence on a video called 'The Liver Run'. A police vehicle was transferring a donated organ from (I think) Stansted Airport to a London hospital where the recipient was already undergoing preparatory surgery. Of course, some idiot thought it would be amusing to sit in the right-hand lane and hold the police car up. Luckily they made it to the hospital just in time, but it was close.
The video is definitely worth a watch, it is on RUclips. ..
An oldie but a goodie, they use Rover SD1's and a 3 litre Senator from memory. The Rover's brakes were cooked by the time they got to the hospital.
@@andrewlaw And one of the escorting police bikes blew up its engine...
20 Years ago in July my wife received a liver transplant, the liver came from NZ to AUS I would hate to to think were I would be now if at every corner Muppets held everything up. 20 years later I think how lucky am I.
This video is a great advert for hard shoulders.
Jesus Christ! I'm holding my head in my hands!! How do these people not know that even an unmarked car with blues and twos is behind them. There's some real arsehole drivers in this - no excuse. I couldn't be an emergency services driver, I'm not that restrained!
Easy dont drive unmarked vehicles!!!
peter amberley easy if you are going to drive a vehicle use your eyes and have the necessary concentration for such a potentially dangerous task
Isn' it "Blues and Tunes" (blue lights and siren music)?
Saying this suggests you have a short temper when driving a normal vehicle.
Be more restrained - whether you have blue lights or not. Nothing good comes from the alternative.
Nice to see driver awareness while driving with emergency vehicles behind them!!
6:27 Did 2 cars just come down the hard shoulder the wrong way to take that exit? They appeared to be driving perpendicular to the 'flow' of traffic just as you moved out to the sliproad.
Mark Wright
Wow, good spot. They were bloody lucky because that might have been worth pulling over for a word had they came head on against the coppers.
Why don't the emergency services arrive on the unaffected side of the motorway and hop across the central reservation? Or drive on the wrong side of the hardshoulder from the nearest junction?
The obvious reason being The fire brigade and paramedics have lots equipment to carry. Cutting gear etc. Paramedics need the ambulance close for medical supplies and patient transfer. Driving the wrong way up a motorway hard shoulder is extremely dangerous, also should there have been a broken down vehicle on the hard shoulder, they would be completely blocked from getting to the site of the emergency. Always safer travelling in the direction of traffic flow.
Great drive and great video. Thanks for sharing. Out of interest, the accident investigators, are they a private firm? Contracted by the police or insurance based? Just being curious.
TRL - Transport Research Laboratory.
Just another typical day with drivers failing to return to near side lanes after overtaking on the motorway. It’s a result of lack of basic traffic law enforcement. How many of you now sit behind drivers hogging the middle and offside lane for no reason. This video should not surprise anybody, more motorway policing and enforcement needed.
Emergency vehicles should mount Mountain Air Horns (6 feet long tubes that at that range WILL cause the entire car to shake - NO chance of not noticing them...) - they'll move after that...
Would be nice fot the motorcycle. Get some respect.
When building motorway’s the hard shoulder should be made wider for E.R.Vs ?
They are wide enough for a fire engine. What emergency vehicle is wider? I can't think of any apart from the air ambulances and the RNLI lifeboats, neither of which travel along the hard shoulder.
Thanks for posting - genuine question (not a dig!). What was the rush for you to get on scene? It all seemed pretty much in hand when you arrived - are you a specialist medic, for example?
One thing I hadn't noticed is that the car he talked to (and then which followed the guy) was collision investigation, I guess the need to preserve evidence is one reason? There are plenty of others I could probably think of, whether they're correct is another matter...
Edit: one of them was pretty close: "As an senior incident commander it is my role to either take over or _maintain scene safety_ to allow the on scene commander to continue to deal with the incident. It is sometimes more hazardous in the closing stages as _people tend to become a little more lazy_ with their safety..." (commented on the 7mins for one mile video, with my emphasis added!)
I rember a few years ago that there was a new siren being tested which was supposed to be better at alerting other motorists of an emergency vehicle approaching. it was a kind of a buzzing sound as I think some of the motorists were clearly not hearing the police vehicle.
It was a hiss type sound, the idea being it had multiple frequencies rather than a single tone/frequency (although the police siren here changes tone, at any given point it is only one tone).
It was less to do with being audible - the idea was to make it easier to perceive the direction of the siren, as single tones reflect everywhere consistently and are difficult for humans to direction find - you hear the siren but don't know where it's coming from.
Doesn't seem to have taken hold with plod vehicles but it does turn up each time an HGV indicates left, before telling cyclists not to get in the squish zone.
That video demonstrated the importance to hard shoulders; they play a vital role of saving lives. The worst thing they did was to create these 'smart' motorways - There is nothing smart about them.....
Can anyone tell me why the emergency services started filtering between the lanes a few years ago when the hard shoulder was still available everywhere? White Audi on the shoulder should have gotten a ticket in the post.
6:45 etc it does make me wonder how emergency vehicles get through on a blocked 'smart' motorway.
Do the gantries say "check your mirrors for emergency vehicles every five seconds"
"leave space for zipping lanes"
How many pratts oblivious to sirens and flashing lights behind them?
Would love to see the mastermind who had the idea of doing away with hard shoulders put his or her hand up and say it was them 🤔
Two things are immediately apparent. Rear view mirrors are an optional car accessory, and electronic sirens are absolutely useless- bring back the two-tone horns.
Brilliant video as always. Are the people from TRL with you, or did they take advantage of your "slipstream". Bit dicey if they had an accident, They've got no warning lights or anything, just a brightly painted car. .Keep up the sterling work you and your colleagues do...
If you notice when Nelvis saw the TRL car he stopped & asked if they were going to J5 incident & said follow me, the TRL carries amber beacons so was just as visible to other traffic, that van in outside lane was just not watching his mirrors or reacting to the blues/sirens, reckon he should be reported for obstructiing an emergency vehicle on a 999 call.
some drivers are very slow to react to blues/sirens.
There was one section in the video where they were using their roof bar but for quite a bit it didn't appear they were on. Could that just be the camera recording and the LED's frequencies not being in sink for a majority of the journey or do they have regulations to follow that don't allow them to be used when moving in traffic? The stretch I saw them activated was when they were on the hard shoulder and they had lost a bit of ground from the difficulty of getting there through the traffic.
I think they can only use their ambers on the hard shoulder or at a scene. They're not permitted to use them to part traffic or make progress that way. So it was careful and selective use, weighing their training versus taking advantage of the situation!
He may have kept them off when on the road for another reason, as some people deliberately block amber lights, given they're not emergency vehicles, "so why should they" attitude kicks in.
Ultra Vires Thanks for the info. That's what I was thinking about the ambers.
The second part makes sense too. It's unfortunate that there are drivers that think like that, whose first thought is 'how dare they try and get ahead of me' instead of looking at the situation and thinking 'they must be trying to get to whatever is causing the holdup to get it sorted sooner for the rest of us'. Of course that 'block people trying to get ahead' wouldn't be a thought if there weren't people doing it.
Waiting patiently in queues in the order we arrive is supposed to be part of our national identity. It's sad to see it fall apart. :(
Amber lights unfortunately are only to warn of a works vehicle . Doesn't give them any priority other than normal road traffic laws apply.
Also where's there's no hard shoulder or road works happing why can we the uk take notes from other countries and make a clear lane when traffic is getting heavy? Anyone know why this doesn't happen??
Life would be so much easier with a decent set of two-tone air horns. At least drivers would be hear them , AND tell where they are coming from
Aye, I find the wailers seem to echo around and I can't pinpoint the location, 2 tones were nice and directional, if you heard them they were either in front coming the other way of following you.
Watch 4 motorcycles escorting and Ambulance from Den Hague to Rotterdam, Twos and blues only but when they get to a major junction the only have to stop in the middle and raise their hand and everything stops dead and waits. They do rolling roadblocks.
Why no loudspeaker to instruct the car in front to go left or right?
Watching that van was so infuriating
Just joking
Do the police get points for the length of the tailbacks?
People should all write to Sicuro and provide the license plate (BNI8 VEP) to them, so the driver gets talked to... This is a shame.
Boss apologised, driver sacked. All's right with the world.
Failing to get out of the way for a blue light should be undue care and attention, 9 points and a £2500 fine.
Instigate a new test that revolves around how to "work" with the emergency service to keep out of their way and give them the best opportunity to get their in the fastest time
Respectfully, no. Learning to drive is difficult enough and the thing I was taught was that emergency drivers will work around you - usually the safest/best thing to do is to stop.
In later lessons I was advised not to do this in certain situations (solid line/single track roads) which makes sense, though it does require a certain amount of confidence to be "on point" for a blue light vehicle. I've done a lot of miles since then and never had to do it.
Seen some other crazy shit though - broken exhausts giving off fireworks and Luton vans with open doors and unsecured furniture wobbling on the back ignoring my gesticulating as they approached the M1 slip...
@@blehblah9309 people that can't shouldn't have a drivers licence its NOT a game !
This run just shows the stupidity of not having constant hard shoulders without obstructions. It wouldn't cost that much to cut the bridge back further so it still has a solid foundation. As for that Hyundai, just before you reached the waitrose lorry, I have NEVER met a Hyundai being driven by a competent driver, ever.
The fastest roads in the country and no one is taught how to use them 🙃
Big question - How main police officers does it take to change a light bulb?
Wow ! There are a lot of clueless drivers in the U.K.
This is now a so called Smart motorway, what chances do they stand of getting through ?????
These unmarked cars shouldn't even be running to RTC's anyway. They should be marked highly visible cars. The marked cars have such bright lights, easy to see them a mile off
I've driven much faster than this, in an unmarked job car with no lights going. Part of my response driving course. Nothing wrong with it, as along as you're looking ahead and anticipating hazards.
@@Andrew-fz2ig Not the point. The whole point of a marked car is that every one will notice it!
You actually have to check your mirrors once in six miles even to see a fully marked vehicle unlike the twat in the van
Even if if wasn't painted in battenburg, 2 alternating flashing headlights and the siren oughta be enough to get you to shift. On top of that if you were in that queue, how would you know it was an rtc? Could just have easily been a firearms incident and the unmarked was the nearest ARV.
I'd be inclined to agree, theres tactical reasons why certain police vehicles are unmarked. No reason to have a fire vehicle unmarked.
It’s always great to see how many drivers seem to doze at the wheel.
After watching this, does anyone still not believe that southern England is overcrowded?
I lived in Maidenhead jct8/9 m4 and Jeez slough and Windsor are busy as hell especially the bathroad through slough and the Windsor bypass
how does traffic from a car crash show that a region is overcrowded
Just curious, what was the orange vehicle for that was following?
Its the Transport Research Laboratory (TRL) from Crowthorne
As an emergency services driver myself the individual driving the emergency services vehicle could have done so much more to encourage a positive reaction from the van driver as opposed to just sitting behind him and changing the tones of the siren
such as?
i showed this to my stepfather whi drives ambulances and his response was he gets the bullhorn and a withering look of disapointment when he passes
@@Sarge92
Okay you have to bear in mind a lot of vans do not have rear view mirrors/rear windows..on a good few occasions prior to you passing the van from the inside lane...me personally I would have held back in to a following position... placed myself in to the middle lane... close the distance to an overtaking position and present your emergency lights into the van drivers nearside mirror...98% of the times that works for me in gaining a positive reaction in the situation you found yourself in.
@@adrianalan3422 cool didnt consider the lack of rear views
@@Sarge92 He has external mirrors which, if his internal mirror is blocked, should be his default setting for checking traffic around (behind) him. Fact of the matter was he was/is an ignorant tw*t who tried to outrun the emergency vehicle when (multiple times) he had the opportunity to move into the middle lane.
I'm not an emergency services driver but I'm not sure I could keep my cool in that scenario with such ignorance but I have recently done an advanced driving certificate. These emergency drivers are on another level however and apart from moving from side to side etc and trying to alert a driver that you are behind by both lights and sirens not sure what else you can do. Even people in normal cars with good rear visibility have issues and a clear sign that they do not check mirrors enough or use other human senses i.e. ears as well as sight.
In Germany cars will create an open space between lanes for emergency vehicles, like the parting of the Red Sea.
Just goes to show the importance of a good hard shoulder - not like the M20 in Kent (smart motorway!!)
Anyone notice the timestamp difference between the front and rear facing cameras?