999 response - Stevenage to Ware - Double Whites
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- Опубликовано: 9 авг 2022
- Uninterrupted blue light run to Ware from Stevenage looking at some of the decisions along the way and some context around Double Whites lines and exemptions we don't have and what can be done to help.
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the guy at 13:36 blinking with the lights
What a legend
Do you think the light flashing was genuinely good or are you being sarcastic? Hopefully the latter as the car could easily have pulled out from the right on Chris. The stopping was enough. You only flash to notify and that should be a very rare occurance. The flashing culture in this country is deadly.
@@pocky1scot1 100% Geniunely good he saw chris from a distance and wanted to give him a way to be quicker since there was a car & Truck infront of Chris
@@martijn5690 I understand the last comment but think it could be phrased better. Imo I would never flash a car as it can give a false hope of security, I'm sure the driver has enough knowledge to not take that as gospel however, normal road users could pose as a further danger when using the light if something else around them then happens.
In this case, I think the flash didn't harm anything and potentially helped. The emergency worker obviously has a vast knowledge to still check his surroundings and not be lulled into security that there wouldn't be any oncoming danger.
@@Randoms620 think the flash is really an indication from the Range rover that he's not going to proceed. It's still up to the ambulance driver to decide if the route is clear but the flash made the decision easier for him
@@pocky1scot1 I agree with the flashing culture being an issue, but on this occasion this is an exception.
It helped Chris to understand that the car was stopped. Chris was driving head on towards the car that faced him, and from that distance it’s not easy to tell if or how fast a car is moving directly towards you. Those flashes helped for quicker decision making, and being an advanced driver that Chris is, he has more skill and experience to know how to navigate that move.
If Chris says it’s great on the video, then it is.
They need to have "how to be mindful of emergency services vehicles" on the driving test. I don't think they teach you anything except "get out of the way" but watching these videos definitely shows there's more helpful ways to do it!
I have taught learners to make progress in areas of DWL's so as not to put ES vehicles at risk attempting an overtake where it is bendy. As soo as extended vision is there, signal left, slow and let them make OT. Everything is about driving plans..... Cracking drive. Enjoyed being 'shot gun'.
My Instructor taught me to see and hear out for sirens or blues. Once i heard a siren he told me to track down where it was coming from and start looking for escape routes to let them passed. He said "When you hear sirens, what should be on your mind is where's it coming from?"
On my driving test in London I had two ambulances with sirens come from behind about 2 mins apart.
Both times I had cars behind me and when I pulled over they over took me. I got two minors on my test even though the examiner said I showed great awareness 😂.
I was instructed to carry on driving and a friend got a major for where he pulled up to let an ambulance pass - not the most empathetic people
@@gamerknown In this context, I've been in a patient transport ambulance where the driver has performed deviations for emergency ambulances and for EMS running blues and twos. Guess who I think were wrong here (not you and your mate).
As a resident of Hertford I know this route well and that was edge of the seat viewing! Amazing driving skills. Thank you for serving Hertfordshire 🙏
haha, same here!
Me too!
I love that you have an intense workload but still have time to give a wave of thankyou. Incredibly professional, courteous and smooth - a true credit to your profession
Agreed, but did you notice that the only ones who get a thumb up or a wave are the ones who have been super observant and helpful in aiding his progres........oh and folks if you ever get a parp parp of the air horn from an emergency vehicle that's the driver saying "good job in assisting me to make progres".......:)
@DashcamDundee Agree - and your channel was great as well.
I always learn something from watching, Chris. I didn't know how you had to treat double white lines, and this may affect my reactions to an emergency service vehicle in the future.
Your videos could well be used by driving instructors as 'homework' for their pupils.
Just FYI - often emergency vehicles will choose to cross double whites anyway to perform overtakes, depending on their training level and the nature of their journey. If they're clearly trying to make progress give way at a safe spot as normal.
Everybody should have to watch his videos as part of their driving lessons! Or more done if road users choose not to react efficiently to blue lights
Really interesting, Chris. I can’t say I’ve ever had an emergency service vehicle slow behind me when against double whites!
i’ve just come across this channel and i’m in the early days of learning to drive! i’ve always been nervous about response vehicles, these videos help a tonne! gives me some idea of how to respond in a helpful way so i also agree that instructors should show their pupils these style videos😀
@@wildeacademia5351 I passed my test in 1964, and still find these videos informative.
I had visions of the car leaving asda at 13:42 would interpret the car flashing as " letting them out". Fortunately they saw and probably heard you coming. Enjoyed the overlap decision making as it helps others to be better prepared if they face the same situation.
yes, i too was thinking that any flashing lights could be misinterpreted by a driver not wise to the blue lights.
"Absolute legend" - I love it!
Had that on the M1 at night once when a new driver and indicating for lane 3. Assumed the flashing headlight was to let me pull out.
When I saw the police officers in a car without blue lights on glaring at me on the way past after I moved to lane 2 I realised I should have interpreted the signal in its more formal manner.
What superb awarness by the Seat at 8:02, nice gradual stop and very clear telegraphing of their intentions. Excellent excellent work Seat!
You and I would do that eh? I feel there was a lot of cars in front that just kept going, as soon as I see blue lights Im looking to indicate and stop, give the blue lighter the choice of lanes at the roundabout I wouldn’t just carry on presuming they’ll use the outer lane to over take me…you know what I mean? I swore at a few for being really slow to react/acknowledge the bluelighter. 😠 its ok I’m back in my cage now 😆
True, but it's Skoda Kodiaq :)
Wish I could get out of Stevenage that quick :) Nice driving as ever. Thanks
you and me both!
I can't speak for cars, as I'm a Firefighter, but personally, with the two cars on the brow of the hill, I would have presented myself further onto the oncoming lane, encouraging the oncoming vehicle to stop earlier.
But, you can't predict what people will do, and people see big red trucks earlier than they see little green cars so its not certain that would work in your case.
You hardly lost time, no accident and journey continued, so you played it right I'd say.
As always, great video! These were really, really helpful when I was doing my ERD last year.
Always great content Chris I've really learnt alot about driving and driving from your perspective regarding where I should be what's helpful and what's not. Keep up the awesome educational work mate
A real eye opener for sure here Chris for both members of the public and first responders on the Double White lines hopefully we can all learn from this and give that little extra bit of room to let the important response through
So many decisions made, interactions with other road users, great driving, amazing level of calm and concentration. Then the video ends and you realise that all that skill and judgement was just the first part. Now comes the critical care part, could be an accident, a heart attack. I wonder how many calls like this make up a shift. Absolute legends.
Love the skill, love the calmness, love the notes. Thanks for posting & for doing such an amazing job 👏🏻👏🏻👍😀🇬🇧
Always amazing to see the incredible skill of your driving Chris and your general attitude towards others. Absolute top respect.
Just superb as always, so much to take in and learn. Looks like a nice route, although appreciate you weren't there to enjoy the scenery. Thanks for sharing.
The few times I've had a blue light come from behind me, I have always been in doubt about what to do. I hope watching these videos helps me make better decisions next time.
Continue as you are to a safe space for them to pass, sometimes breaking as soon as you see them slows everybody down and impedes their progress...They are the trained, skilled driver, let them make the decision👍
@@andy0175 they got me 3 points once pushed me into yellow box
@@MN-mc8ik you can appeal this and explain what happened chances are it would be wrote off
Not having a go at you personally, but the British driving instruction and testing is abysmal in the lack of emergency training. It should be a compulsorty part of the whole regime.
@@MN-mc8ik Oh, diddums. The yellow box regulations apply at all times, and no emergency driiver will FORCE/PUSH you into the box. TYou did something else didn't you?
This popped up in my feed, an amazing insight from your perspective and great explanations too, really cool to watch, God bless you with protection and safe journeys..🙏🏻
I am Stateside now in Arizona, but grew up in Stevenage, so am very familiar with the A602. Watching your skills, and the reaction of other drivers, will make me a better driver in the future! Thanks for sharing!
That's a challenging route even for a clear road at the speed limit, let alone with fair traffic and blues. Loads of gotchas too. Great video and thanks for showing me some of the changes to the road layouts since I last drove it! :)
I use the roads on this video all the time. I am not only massively impressed with your driving skills, but I was also really pleased to see the excellent reactions from the public. Bravo to Chris and the public!
Just realised I didn't comment about the fact you can't cross solid white lines, even under blue lights etc (other than the times you mention). Seems crazy when your arrival at whatever you are heading to is almost always time critical.
So much to learn from this, well done to the one's whom look well ahead on the road
As always Chris so many learning points to be taken from this array of traffic situations you and other blue light services face.
As others have said, having viewed many of your bodies I now have a greater, and I believe more pragmatic, understanding of how to help the blue light drivers in their work.
Keep up the wonderful work.
Just like to say excellent driving/professionalism & as someone who's been blue-lighted to hospital in the last 2 weeks Thank You for your service to the UK public you're a star Best Wishes Jim, Surrey👍
Great video and amazing driving skills. The 602 between Stevenage and Ware, used to be my "twice a day" commute. I was always nervous as to what would happen if an emergency vehicle on blue lights was behind me as a lot of the stretch has no places to pull over. After seeing this I would be far more confident to let the "expert" take the decisions.
I'm from Stevenage and regularly come back to visit family. Knowing all the routes in the first half of the video. You done amazing!
I drove this road twice a day for many years, it's nice to see it again a lot has changed since I was there, great driving as usual.
Watched every second. Never crossed my mind regarding the double whites with blues but definitely something I'll keep in mind going forward.
Excellent skills there and full respect to you, thank you for your service, additional respect to the majority of the drivers that were switched on with their situational awareness, (red car at the roundabout aside), the black car at 13:40 must have some blue light experience to read and assess the situation from that distance. Great vid thank you.
Excellent high speed driving skills. Super fast descision making. Love seeing so many people being compliant. I bet its not always like that.
hi chris. just wanted to say thank you for doing all these clips, i myself spent 7 years in st johns ambulance and i know what like first hand to cars people act when on 999 call some people panic cant be helped. thank you for all you do helping us the pubic. you are a credit to the nhs thank you
Currently doing my CERAD exams and assessments, this is very helpful Chris thank you!!
Amazing video, gives a great insight into what it’s like to be an ambulance driver.
Don’t think I’d survive the stress of all that driving. Good job. Thanks
Wow, it's amazing to see how calm you stay!
Amazing driving skills :)
Watching these before starting as an NQP in the south - I know there's lots more to learn but your notes are helpful to be aware of some of the things I need to be paying attention to
8:30 - I would have done the same as you, however, as the drivers of the other vehicles, I would have continued forwards to give you space, instead of stopping and forcing you to slowly squeeze through the narrow space.
I would have done the same. Held back on the brow of the hill since I'm not able to see any oncoming traffic then assess the space once I can see the lane ahead. I think it was just coincidental that all parties involved met at the points they did, leaving Chris with just enough room to move. Not sure how they could have reacted any sooner to have given him more room.
I would have turned off sirens, maybe cars wouldn't have stopped.
Nice to watch your safe and swift driving. Also nice to see good driving from the other road users too; restores your faith after all the dashcam videos on RUclips! 😉
Glad to see some drivers are still on the ball for the emergency service
Great video as always.
The double whites being such a rigid and strict limit was quite interesting. Given the amount of solid lines we have in our area it would definitely limit our options if we were restricted as much as you are here as the solids can go on for a long while. Normal rules of showing extreme care and attention do apply, but slightly less rigid here with us in Norway.
For the crest of the hill incident, I have the same issues as you do with a fairly low vehicle. I expect I would have discovered the vehicle as early as you did in the clip, I would have fallen back early and waited for a clear and positive gap. Given the fact you had a car in front, the car facing you might be distracted with him and figuring out your siren, and you might not get you the space you need if you decide to run the gap, as evident with the two cars coming to a stop almost at the same spot.
Great video as always Chris. Would have done exactly the same as you on the brow of the hill. Once an oncoming vehicle gets that close having not reacted, I'd normally prefer them to just carry on through. Always a worry when they leave a small gap, in case one of them moves unexpectedly while you're in it. But you have to take the opportunities they give you.
I always give you blue light guys the thumbs up sign when you come up behind me to let you know I have seen you. I will get out of the way as soon as I can. Thanks for showing the A602 road works are open I've got to go to Stevenage soon and it will save me going past Hertford Hospital and Stapleford . Great respect to all you guys in our local ambulance service. 🚑 You do a great job.
Really helpful video.
I hope that by watching these videos I have become much better at responding as an HGV driver.
I do not think HGV drivers get enough coaching on the best response to EV.
Always interesting to watch your videos, MORE,MORE,MORE.
So cool to see you drive from Stevenage to Ware as live in Ware and often drive though Stevenage to work as a PC. Very good driving 👌
I applauded you guys, having to think whilst your on blues and make progress safely and have the thought of the job your going to , it’s a lot to take in you make it look easy though well done
Excellent.
That stretch of A602 out of Stevenage is always a test.
Great driving.
I used to live in Ware and work St. Evenage so it was fun to see this route again after at least 10 years.
In answer to your question What would you have done ?
Backing off is always the right answer. That road has been changed over the recent years and so even the locals are readjusting to new layouts.
The entrance to Heathmount which sits halfway up that hill used to cause so many tailbacks in the morning.
Your driving is impeccable as always. Keep up the great work Chris.
Expat living in Sydney 🇦🇺🇬🇧
Chris, you felt some G's in both directions taking the underpass at six hills at speed 🙂 - Excellent video.
The amount of people who don't move over in the oncoming lane, or stop directly across from someone on the other side of the road, is astounding. It happens to regular drivers all the time, being forced to try and squeeze through an unnecessarily narrow space if you want to make any progress at all, but we aren't all rushing to save someone's life. I really don't get how so many people can be so utterly unaware of not only their surroundings, but also how their actions impact others.
Awesome driving Chris, keep up the great work!
I drive this route to work and het here I am watching this, good video
Brilliant video again Chris, thank you for all the work you do, as well as the other crews ❤️
Great stuff and very instructive for us civilian drivers. You must be bloody knackered by the time you get to the job 😁
Thank you again Chris great driving skills stay safe and take care.
I've driven this road only a couple of times, in the early 90s. I was in a rented Corsa, for work, that had all the acceleration and handling prowess of a really bad bread pudding. It tool a little more than a quarter of an hour! impressive driving - especially recognising the restrictions other drivers have, as well as yours. Not always something I see, in these parts ( narrows eyes and looks at local police station)
bit white-knuckle in places but you can't have clear forward vision all the way!
Fantastic content thank you for your service and hard work, could have sworn I saw you working near Bedford River Festival a couple weeks ago? Keep up the videos mate
Really great driving, this kind of thing is really important for people to understand. I didn't know about the double solid white lines for emergency vehicles, so iv learned something. Not sure about the range rover flashing you to go to the other side of the traffic island, mainly because of the car at the junction. If they weren't paying attention they could have assumed the range rover was flashing them to pull out. I get that it helps you but if I was in the range rovers position I wouldn't have flashed you through.
I never anticipated that a video about EMS response would bring me joy,sad that cant find a police version though!
Some great awareness in this video! Really awesome to see
You’re very good at conserving the cars momentum. I notice you’re able to lift quite early for round abouts and roll through rather than rushing up, braking, and then powering on. A lot of drivers don’t understand sometimes less is more, and it’s much faster to lose less speed over a longer distance than to lose more speed and then re-accelerate. Some things you can’t teach, and a lot of fast driving is learned on a car by car basis. Very good driving.
Great drive as always. And some great assistance from the good road users of Hertfordshire too. But it’s clear to see that too many motorists just don’t look in their mirrors. Their attentions are only ever grabbed by the sound of the siren. There were plentiful opportunities for some of these dopey individuals to pull over and let you past, but it seems they were blissfully unaware of your presence because - as you are trained to do so - you went silent.
I followed my brother - a serving police officer, and a blue-light trained response driver - for twenty-five minutes on a 15 mile journey to our home town, where I waved at him and flashed my headlights repeatedly. He never saw me, because not once did he look in his mirrors! I was shocked and told him so when I met up with him soon after. He just shrugged his shoulders and giggled. Unbelievable!
And as for the numerous double-white-line quandaries you faced on this call, I commend you for putting other road users’ safety first and foremost...... but as for the law: The Road Traffic Act 1988 states that all road markings must be clear and therefore safe for all road users to see. If an accident occurs because of someone’s failure to perceive worn out road markings then ultimately those whose responsibility it is to maintain those markings will be held responsible. There is not a court in the land who would prosecute a motorist for falling foul of the Highways authority’s shoddy professionalism. It’s the same with double yellows. Faded and broken double yellows are not legally binding, and are therefore just a mess. Thousands of parking tickets are thrown out every year because supposed violators have successfully demonstrated that the authorities have failed in their legally required duty to maintain such markings as set out in the said act.
I had no clue regarding the fact on double white lines you still have to follow highway code. Keep these videos coming as this is extremely helpful as the one thing they cannot teach is how to handle blues as a member of public.
3 highway code exemptions for emergency service drivers
1) speed limits
2) traffic light controlled junctions (red lights treated as 'give way' junctions)
3) keep left signs
That's it
Such skilful driving, cool as a cucumber, could watch all day.
You go through all that just to get to the job where the real work starts. Well done 👍🏼
I use this exact route on my way back from Stevenage starbucks to Ware/Hertford border where my gf lives so was so familair watching this and was a great drive.
I agree Chris, that Landy driver was an utter legend!
Good to see a new driving video.
Wow, incredible driving. Thank you for your service. You could literally be the difference between life and death
I know that road VERY well and you drove spot on. The road from the pub (Three Horseshoes i think) to the rab where you turned left is absolute 🐕 💩 surface wise so you did well not to put your car into the ditch / bushes. Brings back memories as my ex lived the end of Ware High St and she boasted she'd made it into Stevenage town centre in 11 mins. I did it in just under 10 (it was dark so I could see headlights and deserted so I only slowed for the roundabouts).
Very insightful, thank you for sharing this :)
You’re a phenomenal driver, Chris. I’ve seen some shocking driving from a handful of Police cars on blues around Surrey. In one instance they basically ploughed their way through some heavy traffic approaching a busy/active roundabout. The officers in question need to take a seat and observe with you for sure.
True, I had one the other day. Only put siren on when he reached the roundabout (unmarked car) seemed surprised that I had started to pull out, he showed no sign of caution.
something new i learned today that emergency vehicle sometimes cannot cross solid double lines and only if its safe or depends on emergency. thanks for that info
That has got to be the most skillful driving I have ever seen
Great discretion on the DWLs and skilful driving. Seen quite a few police cars cross the lines but there is a subtle difference of operating within the law and seemingly being above it!
It’s not about operating above the law. The police have no exemption for solid white either but guidance varies depending on level of training. Most police forces allow drivers to use “dynamic risk assessment” for solids. IE cross them with caution, same rules as a normal overtake. It’s down to service policy rather than the law. There’s nothing inherently dangerous about crossing solid whites so long as you drive to the system. Consider than police advanced pursuit drivers have considerably longer / more advanced training than other services
Very interesting video i never knew that information about not overtaking on double white lines assumed you blue light vehicles could you learn something every day thanks for the video
Excellent Driver very calm and sure of his ability.
the 602 is a very tricky road , nice job sir
Very interesting to see, excellent driving around routes familiar to me.
Just thinking, after this stressful drive you can't relax. Immediately after that more stress waiting: life-saving action. Only true heroes can do this job. Btw: I like your explanations in the video very much. Tks for sharing
White van noticed you early, miracle!
Jokes aside is really nice to see people actually pay attention to you
6:07 i like how you turned the sirens off to also stop other drivers panicking when they have nowhere to go. Otherwise they would end up mounting the kerb. It's being in an emergancy but respecting road laws and predicting how people would react.
This video is very informal and should be on the highway code it is very educational to know how to emergency services with so we can help you by helping our self
I recognise them roads 👍🏼 another great drive
I did a google maps direction search from Lister Hospital to Salvation Army Ware and it reckoned 25-35 minutes during a weekday. Well done for doing it in 12!
Winston Wolfe: "That's thirty minutes away. I'll be there in ten."
Great video as always and sensible drivers thankfully
well done Chris, nice driving.
for me as a german firefighter is quite interesting to see, that you’re not allowed to overtake at the double white lines.
If we are driving to an emergency, no traffic rule applies for us at all.
Of course the lines are there for a reason and I would not overtake there, even if i’m allowed to.
It's important to note that in the UK, you are not allowed to cross the stop line at a red light, unless waved on by a uniformed cop. In case traffic blocks all lanes at a red light, emergency services will kill sirens and blue lights, and wait the red light out.
@@johnarat9618 Tend to find that's not the case at all with Police, and trying to assume that has caught me out before. Seems to be true of Fire and Ambulance though.
very interesting , thanks for sharing
These videos , and such like , should be on driver education on TV . There are SO many drivers out there who do not know what to do on hearing a two tone , or seeing a blue light . Some do not even know the Highway Code on Double White Lines , so what chance have they got driving to the law . Good drive , good information regarding you overtaking on solid white lines .
Seen this guys driving before pure skills smooth 👍 didn’t know about the double whites. Happen to me once just thought the job got cancelled then had another job straight after.
I work on that road where they are based and think the should set the lines back at the end of cavendish road to allow ambulances and cars to get out with ease.
Neat, tidy and accurate - as my instructor would say (albeit rarely to me). Nice progress, nice flow, nice lines.
Your approach to solid lines is very different to what I was taught. We would just kill the front blues at the first sight of the solids, as a general rule. Solids are usually there because vision is very poor round a bend. If someone realises who you are then you can always re-engage for the overtake briefly. But in general solids aren't usually there for very long and unless vision was good (unusual) I'd just kill the front blues and hold back. There were a few moments that felt like they could quickly get a little hairy.
08:12 is tricky because of the hill brow. I think I would have preferred staying offside for longer to encourage the oncomer to slow, you could always come back in again.
09:08 lovely bit of flow here.
Just a general observation that there were a few moments you could have given your ears a rest for a few seconds (in fact one of the few times you turned off the two tones was as you came up to a zebra crossing with pedestrians looking to cross?)
Overall, v nice
Oh and just one other thing, 10:38 vision is excellent, you had loads of time just to get the overtake done on the silver Jazz and then turn off tones after that
Fantastic driving!
Interesting as I've had emergency service vehicles "stop and start" on double whites - now I understand more why. Fascinating watching, especially as an old resident of Hertford. Still recognised large sections even after 25 years since I moved away from the area :)
Damn that is some bloody good driving
I know this route very, very well.. I live in Stevenage Old Town, and my wife’s parents live in Ware (also an ex PC, so was interesting watching your drive)
very satisfying to watch. smoooooooooth
Used to take me 45mins to get from Fishers Green Stevenage to GSK in Ware between 2015/17. Was interesting seeing the route at speed.
A professional drive my friend.. reminds me of my days in the fire service.. maybe you get to try the same with a 12 tonne fire engine one day 😉 .. I agreed especially with your pause of the siren's and slowing down when the public had nowhere to go to allow you through safely.. well done
Great video as always Chris! Just wanted your opinion on something, I drive a 13.5t truck with beacons on, we don't drive with them on constantly so if I hear/see a blue light responder would you find It useful as the driver to see the beacons come on? Would it give you a good indication that I've seen you coming? Cheers
Had blue lights behind me a couple of years ago on a narrow road. Natural instinct is to slow and try to pull over, but sometimes the sensible thing to do is put the boot down ( sensibly) and get ahead to a safe point to let them pass.
And like others, had no idea an ambulance is still not allowed to cross the double whites)