The Real Reason 70% of Divorces are Initiated by Women ft. @hoe_math
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The Real Reason 70% of Divorces are Initiated by Women
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He wants to know how to get past that wall of rejecting observation... Its simple, you have to use emotions, you have to make them see it from your perspective and put themselves in your shoes. That is easier said than done, because not only do they assume they are superior to us, they shirk responsibility at every opportunity, and avoid reason as they prefer to feel rather than observe.
Tell him to try treating them like a child you are educating, reading, writing, how to turn a wrench, start a lawnmower, or run a PC. Explain it on that level without condescending. Thats how I trained females to do our job in the US military. Its how I taught my daughters to read, write, math, and later when they were teenagers, how to drive competently. They have the mindset of an 8 year old, at best the maturity of a 17 year old.
Otherwise he is spot on. Coming from an old guy who has had quite a few of them in his lifetime... and is divorced twice.
try 88%
There is only adaption, you should look into this, evolution is a lie, also no missing links in the fossil record, and carbon dating is very inaccurate.
kind regards _LEGENDS
It is all by design. This is how America and the West work. The elites that run everything are all about Capitalism, money. They don't want an educated and functioning populace that thinks for itself. They want sheep, so people can be easily herded, and one of the modern ways they get the average person to be sheep is to throw so much stimulus at them through social media, that we don't have time to sit down and think.
to play devils advocate, from my understanding lesbians take on "masculine energy" and gays take on "feminine energy", so one possibility as explored in the video is that women make marriages worse but another possibility is that there is an overload of masculine energy, is there a way that we can control for this to see the statistics?
Can we, as a society, please start acknowledging the FACT that women are INCENTIVIZED to divorce their spouses? There is NO downside to divorce. It could even be argued that women BENEFIT from divorce. Keep the kids. Keep the house. Sleep with whoever you want (with no guilt or judgement). And collect a monthly check from your ex!
@@kc6810they’d still get a percentage of it. Are you really that dumb?
@@kc6810use a question mark for questions
Remember, hypergamy. Yes, the average men make less, but the ones who have actually been able to get married in the past, they married women who make EVEN LESS. They will still get a check.
Correct
@@user-jg5xm8um8yExactly. Another example of Feminists trying their best to degrade men but…end up making women look worse. The irony.
the FEMALE therapist said husbands werent doing enough in the female initiated divorces
I figured that out and my third marriage counsellor was a man. He turned out to be a soyboy and did me dirtier than either of the women therapists.
LIke it or not, you are a player in the game of life. The only rule is survival of the fittest. If you want to make it to the next round, you need to evolve. You need to aquire resources that will elevate you above all the other players. For a female, it is engrained in their DNA to improve their chances of survival by selecting out males that are already on the next level. Which means you always have to stay one step ahead of her. Equality doesnt work in a system that rewards inequality.
It’s all Jermaines fault
Even though we do more in the house as well. Relationships are 70/30 the man does the lion share for women who ain’t worth the effort.
@Coffeendonuts it's always Jermaine's fault
women initiate divorce because they dont get penalized and are in fact rewarded.if the men in sexless marriages could leave without losing half of their shit the divorce rate would double.
Nah if men didn’t lose half their stuff,women would put in more effort to keep a marriage together and we would be in 1950’s divorce rates
@@jimjohnson394U are 100% correct thanks for that reason to see it!!
100%. The whole irony of the video is what the truth is. That's the truth. Men have consequences to suffer. Women do not. I'll trade whatever advantage I have of "patriarchy" for that privilege.
No and change there attitude? If there smart they won't marry at all. Yes we know your da# stuff and money are more important to you. Of course sex on demand. Well good because there not doing there wifey duties.
Opposite. Men stay in marriages regardless of how sexless it is.
If you took away the cash and prizes from divorce like Ghanna did then the divorce rate would literally tank.
Like what happened when Ghana removed no fault divorce, divorce plummeted right after.
Because they couldnt use the law to steal their ex husbands money anymore.
Women are paid to break the contract. Just three little words from them and men lose half of everything they've worked for their whole live. Those three word are: "I'm not happy". AND....if they take your kids, they get even more money.
Trying to make them happy is like trying to make money playing at the casino. Sure you can stay on the lead for a while but the more you play the more you will lose long term.
@@jolteon43 Very well said Sir! That's about as concise as you could put it. 👍
Exactly
Shout out to the Coach Gang 🙌
And... That's YOU!
When women aren't held responsible for their actions you get the society we have today. Confidence your way past that lion. Go ahead and prove it ladies😅
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@kc6810 He's in a studio apartment, revenge is sweet
@@kc6810 I'll answer this one! Let's say a woman is making $50k a year and her husband is making $60k a year, and they have a young child together. The woman isn't just going to leave the guy, she's going to start an affair with a higher income man or something like that. Then, she'll lie about her husband in court, and to their friends and family. Even IF the man gets 50-50 custody, with split time, she will usually receive the support payments, which are calculated on a bogus table, taken from his post tax pay, and given to her tax free... then, she can claim childcare on her tax return. PLUS, she's quietly living with a RICH DUDE! Massive benefit to her.
@@kc6810 because she gets free money from him in exchange for nothing while being once again free to gold digger the dating scene
@@kc6810facts. A lot of people miss this point. Women will envy a married couple who went through tough times, yet they themselves are not willing to go through tough times.
"An impenetrable wall of low level thought" that was a perfect summation of today's world
Yep, consciousness allows access to a variety of different tools in order to allow another level of understanding, the bridge empathy walks across.
No bridge, no empathy.
No empathy, no society.
Why we don’t burst out laughing when the vows are exchanged these days is beyond me
"Does anyone have a reason these two should not be joined in holy matrimony?"
"Statistically they have less than a coin flip's chance of remaining together, and even worse odds of actually being happy together."
"I mean okay, but do you have anything specific to these two people?"
"Yeah, she's a woman."
We don't laugh, because we are sad, because we know that that guy is going to be royally screwed because he really believes that being married will be fun.
Especially when they exchange vows THEY dreamed up. That irony is most compelling. The more outrageous the more humorous. I’d love to hear those same vows repeated in the so-called “marriage therapy” sessions, mostly with female or emasculated therapists.
I don't attend weddings anymore. Whenever I hear of them. I tell my other make friends to "start the clock"!😅
When are we as a society going to start holding modern women accountable for their horrendous actions.
Trust me women already are, it’s just not with all the flash that we hold men accountable. If you think a women divorces a good man takes him to the cleaners, lies about him ect.., doesn’t pay for that in a huge way later on, your lying to yourself, maybe there is the odd exception of a women who is drop dead gorgeous, and men being superficial as they are all sins can be forgiven if you look good enough, but most women pay dearly in the end.
@@ladidaohoh3168Pay in what way?
When we as society going to start holding men accountable for their horrendous lack of action? Married single mothers are real.
'Modern'? That's funny. We NEVER held women accountable. Not throughout history. Women have always protected. To do so would be a first.
@@sienkiewiczmonika1161 Ninety-nine percent of this involves a woman being superficial, attempting to secure a "HOT" guy without investing any time in understanding him. Later, she wonders why he suddenly seems like an unpleasant person when, in reality, he hasn't changed since day one. Many of these men are on the verge of intellectual limitations, with a reading level barely reaching that of a fourth grader. Seriously, what did she expect?
I have 2 sisters who were always at each others throats (most of it instigated by the same one). I also have 4 brothers, and none of us quarrel; we just don't get into highly emotional interactions. When feminists say that men should express their feelings more, they better rethink what they are hoping for.
The man haters are simply incapable of accepting that they are wrong about men. They wont accept that men actually are different, and in many way 'better' than women. They can't handle the fact that men aren't as emotional. It makes them feel bad, it makes them feel week and inferior.
Even as a man myself, it wasn't until I watched a podcast with 2 or 3 trans women (women who transitioned into men) explain the affects that Testosterone had on their personalities. They explained how before, their range and volatility of emotional expression was much much greater. They explained how once they went on T, they started to struggle to understand how they felt. That often times, they would have A feeling about something or someone. But it could take days or even weeks for them to figure out what that feeling meant. They explained that they had less positive emotions as well as negative ones. They would get less excited about things they used to love, or even things they know love. They would also get less upset or frustrated than before.
What really stuck with me was when they said "we have fewer emotions now than before, and the ones we do have, are harder to understand".
This is why I never thought therapy would work for me. I'm neither stupid, nor emotionally volatile. I can't think out and rationalise my own thoughts and actions. Being someone who holds the truth to be supreme really helps.
@@jamesespinosa690 Being told, by feminists, to express my feelings more, Just confused me.
What women want to hear from men when they ask men to express our feelings, is they want us to tell them how much we care about THEM, how much we feel bad about whatever it is that's bothering THEM. They don't actually want to hear about any problems or discomforting feelings that we are having. Women want sensitive men, but they only want us to be sensitive about what THEY want. They don't want to hear about our problems; women still want a perfect man, who is strong and stable and reliable and supportive and provide finances and assets FOR THEM. We are still expected to be her shoulder to cry on, her sounding board about all the things going wrong in her life, and the person that she can call on to hold her hand while she complains and moans and cries about how her life isn't as great as she wants it to be.
@@d.e.b.b5788 I don't drink coffee. My wife had known that for these 49 & ½ years of marriage, yet she still asks me if I think she should have me go to Costco and pick up another brand or variety of coffee instead of the one she has been drinking for the past month. All she is looking for is assurance and substantiation. At our age she doesn't have anyone else to talk to but our daughter who lives 700 miles away.
You can’t use individual cases to judge the general consensus lol because I have have had the opposite experience. No one is saying men be wimps, but that it’s human to have feeling’s because men are higher in suicide and crime rates
Latest example of the famous quote, "You cannot reason people out of something they were not reasoned into!" Especially true of women, straight or gay.
That is a stupid and false saying. There are numerous counterexamples.
Some? Of course. Many or even most? Maybe, IDK. But unmodified means all, which is demonstrably false.
@@ratamacue0320I prefer a battle of wits but you appear unarmed.
@@506thparatrooper ooh, clever.
Have you ever been reasoned out of a belief?
@@ratamacue0320 Yes on more than one occasion. Because the belief was inaccurate. My Christian faith is built on reason. While God's thoughts are higher than any human's thoughts so they take constant examination and adjustment where necessary.
@@506thparatrooper hmm, interesting. I've most often heard that saying in atheist circles, even among deconverts like myself. And I disagree with it just as strongly when they say so.
Anyway, it seems you are your first counterexample to a plain reading of your own initial statement. (Or at least, you think you are.) Do you still consider your initial claim to be true in some sense? If so, can you explain it more precisely?
Hoe math guy needs to publish his work, it’s awesome. He’s a genius.
I think he should too, but it would never be approved. The recent "science" journal article that states that women's bodies are better at hunting than men's with glaring omissions and poor conclusions proves this. Academic institutions and media outlets don't care about the science anymore, or improving society, just in pushing a certain political narrative.
Why write a book when social media holds more influence these days. But I agree he's an absolute don.
The Manosphere has been talking about this for years now. I am happy it's finally mainstream.
He sells the charts on his patreon
Reported domestic abuse is higher in lesbian couples because women are more likely to falsely report abuse, regardless of the gender of the victim of the false allegations. And women are more likely to report actual abuse, regardless of the gender of the abuser. Whereas men almost never make false reports of domestic abuse, and are also much less likely to report actual abuse when the perpetrator is a woman.
Also, women dont typically abuse physically because its not their strength. They abuse with manipulating, lies, cheating, gaslighting, driving the man crazy, blameshifting etc...and none of these things are illegal, so they can get away with zero consequences. If the man reacts, suddenly he is the abuser and she paints herself as the victim.
They're also the predominant child abusers. Men mostly commit violence against other men. Women against children. No violence is good, but who's the bigger scumbag in this scenario?
Women ALWAYS think the grass is greener somewhere else, they just need a man to mow it.
There is a saying “men enter into relationships idealistically and women enter opportunistically.” Women get bored much faster and have more unrealistic expectations than men do. Men approach marriage more as a duty and obligation. All these factors are part of the reason men are willing to continue even when it becomes sexless. Add a society that allows for her hypergamous nature to control her and it is a perfect setup for divorce. Any man who enters into a marriage is risking his livelihood as well as his future on her emotional whims.
Double spacing to begin a sentence was primarily utilized when typing with a typewriter, via clarity. The APA went as far as to get their act together in 2019, by reconstituting a single space, when following a period, to begin a sentence.
This reminds me of the current state of young adults, who proceed to ignore proper use of capitalization because they feel like it. Surmising that it comes across too loud, from a context of tone attribution. My words, not theirs, clearly.
Otherwise, your articulation was not lost, established credit there, sir! More so, it also left an impression, which may have been the reasoning, initially.
Old saying: Men get married thinking that his wife will never change... but she does. Women get married thinking that her husband WILL change, but he doesn't. And that makes her unhappy, so she wants a divorce because of her erroneous evaluations. Men just grin and bear it, watch sports, and drink, because we know that we're already screwed by the divorce laws.
I was told by a Bolivian hairdresser a long time ago that American women plan on using divorce as part of their financial portfolios. She was told this by many of her American clients.
I was in the first class with women at the Air Force Academy in 1976-80. (Same with the other governmentally-directed military academies.) Prior to their arrival, male roommate selection was not a problem. In fact, mostly it was directed. Someone told you who to room with, and you did. Period. Almost zero drama. When the women arrived, immediately we saw massive roommate drama between women. They could not spend more than up to the first conflict with each other. There were few women, so having roommates within the same squadron (the basic unit, around 110 cadets) quickly became untenable. Then they roomed women from different squadrons together or solo rooms-NEVER done with all-male squadrons. Then it evolved to basically finding any two women who could stand each other. For me, I had mandated male roommates all four years and when we didn’t “like” each other we just avoided. And this is a military dormitory with a high pressure competitive academic and social environment. One studied in the room, the other in the library. It was a real-life experiment in how men relate to other men versus how women relate to each other.
I'm a statistical anomaly. I'm a man and I was the one who filed in both of my divorces. But I did everything I could to hold each of those marriages together, years longer than I should have. In my first marriage, I finally filed only after I realized my life was at stake.
My son filed. She was an aggressive btch that would get physical. Said many times she would go in to therapy. Never did.
I don’t know you or your life but I used to end most of my relationships. At some point I had to realise I was the common factor. I was the one picking these particular people that I didn’t last with. Please consider this before your next marriage and adjust. From one brother to another
Or just don't get married. Simple.
@@TheNizzah1 I won't say I'm the problem in that I'm picking broken women. Like a lot of men, I don't have a choice in who I date. I'm lucky to get ANY woman to be in a relationship with me so I have to take what I can get. At times I've been single, I might be able to meet and get 2 or 3 first dates a year. So to be married, over the course of 5 years, my pool of potential wives is 10-15. Of course I only got a second date out of less than half of them so now it's 4-6. And even from those, maybe only 1 or 2 would be willing to be in a long term relationship.
@@Stassis I'm on my last one. If this one ends I'm moving somewhere remote to be on my own.
As a bisexual guy, we tend to message girls less because it's so much easier to get laid with a guy than a girl. Generally, you message a guy and you are getting laid that night. Personally, I don't mind being with either (I've had gfs before) but the reality is that you get much better treatment from men (usually more eager, doesnt hold past things youve resolved against you and they prefer to be upfront and bring up any issues they have with you so they can be resolved). Women are more likely to hold on to things even when theyve been resolved. Also, when it comes to dates, men are more fair about it and dont expect you to pay for them on first few dates. Usually, you split or you take turns paying, but even when offered to split, from men, it's not a shit test where they probably wont go on another date with you because you agreed to split the cost, whereas with women, if you agree to the split of a restaurant, she's definitely going to Houdini herself from your life afterwards. At the end of the day, even if you're bi, if you compare the experience messaging a guy to f vs a girl, you get a bunch of guys messaging you wanting you to stuff them (and I mean more than one) and very enthousiastic whereas with girls, you generally have to message multiple and they may not reply to you for several business days even if your text(s) were pretty clever. I don't think its too surprising that a lot of us bi guys prefer one experience over the other, but just my 2 cents
Same here. I'm 56 and other than hookups with 20something women with Daddy issues, I always look to hook up with another bi guy. You can usually find someone attractive in short time and they're usually ready to hook up. There's very little bullshlt or baggage and you can be very frank about what you will or won't do in bed. I have a huge d_ck and bi types are turned on by that without getting all size-queeny and that gives me a little ego boost. Unfortunately even some of the bi/married types play head games and I learned to spot them early and cut them off at the quick. I meet SO many women who are sane, intelligent, and bullshlt-free relationship-material... but ... and I hate being so shallow... they're not physically attractive. There are times I hate being single, but overall I'm happy where I am in life.
honestly if any guy is bisexual why on God's Earth would they even deal with women? Men are 100 times easier.
I am a sensible man if I can call up someone and be like let's go fishing eat some chinese after that have sex and go to sleep and if they are down with it that is a match made in heaven.
Makes perfect sense 👌 (from hetero perspective)
You broke the cheat code 😂
Very very interesting. Do you think other bi men share that sentiment?
Two of my friends who I've known for a decade plus were married, let's call them Sam and Sally, and they'd both come to me for advice or an ear to listen from time to time, and they were an amazing couple, like you could tell they were made for eachother and they genuinely cared deeply for one another.
Sally was always alittle nervous and shy, but she started getting anxiety and depression because she '(didn't) feel like their relationship could progress any further', and I got the impression she wanted to be out living a more exciting life whilst still being in her 20s, but Sam was happy with his go-to-work-come-home-go-out-on-weekends kinda settled life?
...and so Sally starts seeing a therapist, and this female therapist seemingly _advised_ her to leave Sam because 'people are responsible for their own happiness' or something along those lines?
Bro was absolutely devastated and didn't know what he did wrong, and hasn't dated in the 2 and a half years since they split, and Sally moved and I've not heard from her since.
... Whilst being in such a vulnerable state, it's scary to think that, depending on a therapist's own philosophical/ ideological bent, they can completely destroy people's lives, y'know?
-Though I guess Sally was her client, and Rob wasn't 😑
Im sorry for your friends. Both of them. I totally understand your friends pain. I would have been totally happy living a simple day to day life with the girl that I love as my wife. But then modern females basically want to whore themselves out in their early 20s.
YOu can't blame the therapist. You can blame Sally for not knowing what she wants.
@@d.e.b.b5788That's the problem. There needs to be some kind of mechanism for holding women accountable. Unfortunately holding women accountable is viewed as abuse and so fewer people are having relationships in general because no one wants to be accused of being abusive.
Here is how men can avoid divorce, don't get married. Que Tom Leykis.
Simple math.
Cue just so you know
@@POPJack1717Bro math!
As a left handed guy, this makes a ton of sense. I grew up being told by everyone and being shown by the world that I was "different." Even got the hand slaps and told it was "the Devil working through me" from a few teachers. Ultimately, I became aware of the fact that 7 to 10% of the population is left handed, and we have to do things a bit differently. It gave me objectivity from a young age, as I was essentially dealing with "shit tests" from everyone around me all the time.
No, that has nothing to do with shit tests. A shit test is a woman getting angry or upset with her partner to (subconsciously) test if he's emotionally strong enough to deal with her emotional outbursts. If he fails, she won't feel safe with him, because it proves he can't help her when she needs emotional support.
Im also a leftie and im proud to be different. We are statistically more intelligent than right handed people and that’s a fact
I'm left handed but never did anyone liken being left handed to the devil? Where are you from? Amityville?
You lefties are goofy 🤪 ❤
@@johnrevelation37 as if we chose it
Finally!
I’ve been saying for years that NOT being on Facebook etc causes people to see you as a “creep” or some negative connotation.
It’s like “ if he’s not on social media , something is wrong with him.
Well y’all were right.
There is something wrong.
And we’re seeing it manifest with mental health.
I don’t have Facebook or any of the main social media platforms,
And there are times where I’m like
“They don’t think I exist etc “
Worst thing to ever happen to humanity.
India was very smart in banning Tik Tok. I think all of it should be removed. Online dating, social media. We need to go back to human interaction.
Ive heard women outright say that men without social media are a huge red flag.
@@WomenKilledChivalry they think that because they cannot understand that we are different from them. They assume we like and want the same things they do, they are wholly incapable of putting themselves in our shoes, in other words they have no empathy for us. They have empathy for other women and sometimes kids, but not for men. In their minds, they are the pinnacle of human evolution, and if men would only act and think like they do, then we would have utopia.
Its funny because a man can think like a woman by removing all reason and accountability, but a woman cannot think like a man. They will take that as a personal insult, rather than an observation of fact.
@@WomenKilledChivalry I hope none of those social media mavens ever owe me serious money. Because, thanks to their imprudent openness, I know what intolerable pressure points will cough up those receivables in about 15 minutes.
@@WomenKilledChivalry: Those men can't feed the dopamine addiction by paying attention to them.
Keep in mind, RUclips is social media.
You either leave the insanity, learn to ignore it and survive or get consumed by it. The winning move is not to play, but most of us are going to roll the dice at least once. All we can do at this point is share our stories and try and help the next generation.
Once is all it takes to financially ruin the vast majority of us.
LOL I love this guy's drawings -- they're both hilarious and highly informative.
Imagine that, it only takes a couple weeks of dating a women or your first women to know how they all are.😅
Woman*
No men are more observant to problems we identify as problems. It doesn't talk long to understand what people are like at their core. If uou leave tour emotions to the side and objectively judge things.
they get bored. really that simple. they want to leave the relationship so they need you to be the bad guy. so they make problems. It's not rocket science. As soon as they start making problems that's it. leave. they want you to leave. they need to be the victim so they can say oh he was abusive or manipulative or whatever.
They’re insane
Blows my mind how many men still don't understand whatever she's arguing about is not actually what she's mad about
Damn straight..
With my ex, things were going to shit so naturally i tried to fix it.. wasnt long before i realised it was pointless..
I ended up breaking up with her, and afterwards ended up going through her phone, i dont usually do this but i wanted to know why, so i looked at her messages to her best friend, straight up said she was starting fights with me so i would be a jerk and she could be the victim, she actually said the word victim.
Also want to explain..
I dont like going through phones, i avoid doing that because my insecurities are my problem to deal with, i did it to get answers because she wasnt giving me any. I wanted to know what was wrong, so if i was the problem i could work on it, i didnt touch the phone until after we had broken up
@@travismarshall4914 best answer i can give is she is not yours. just yours for right now these days. with simps and facebook and what not there will always be a guy saying i can treat you better then him. id try and find a girl that will drop social media to make it with you. if she does not let you go threw her phone dont take her seriously. she has kids dont take her seriously. lots to it. i lost my 18 year old gf to a 52 year old man. i got obsessed with this stuff years ago. just understand woman are always looking for the bbd... the bigger better deal.
It is lack of character. This plagues women because they do not know how to respect naturally. They lack integrity and loyalty as well. All character faults. Their boredom is a symptom of this
That last part about China and lowering our cognitive abilities I feel is 100%.
A persistent biological and psychological weapon💥
And not the USA government?
@@hainleysimpson1507They are doing it too .
My ex and i went to a counselor years ago and holy hell i found out there that she had another man 😂 needless to say it was over lol
YOU guys eventually NAILED IT. -
There are generally TWO solutions that are required when solving a problem in a MALE/FEMALE interaction.
1. The FEMALE part of the problem... solve the FEELINGS that are hurt, upset, not validated etc.
2. the MALE part of the problem.. solve the ROOT cause of the negative emotion do that the relationship doesn't experience it again and thus gets better and stronger over time.
What often happens that in lesbian couples the FEELINGS part is very effectivley solved, so in the short term it FEELS good, but gradually as unaddressed issues accumulate everything eventually goes to hell.
Feelings are irrelevant. That is the problem. Everyone makes decisions with their feelings and what you are supposed to do is use reasoning and logic.
that's a really interesting observation. most of the time, the feelings don't need to be solved, just heard
I turn 52 this coming feb 2024. I feel younthful as ever. When I was in 14 I had "Computer Class" for the first time (floppy disk and all) the teacher told us that Computers were going to change and improve the World. Now in the present day human interaction is rare and almost exclusively online.
This issue has been known forever.... as a bloke, I was told to take the womans hormone issues into account.... although most girls can do this herself
All this information waa available 15+ years ago and people to this day are still fighting it.
We need men like Tate to break the narrative, spread the word and create a room for freedom of speech about this topic, so this "Observation bad" low consciousness thing can be surpassed.
I am amazed an intelligent society would put them in any position of serious decision making. My greatest nightmare is getting onto a plane and seeing two female pilots in the cockpit. I’d walk right back to the terminal.
This.
I hope you’re single. How desperate does a woman need to be to risk being trapped with a man like you
Intelligent society? Where?
@@mistergoodcitizen9914this lol
@@KrellKrypto sure, there are always exceptions to the norm. That does not make it the standard.
"Observation bad" is similar to what happens when you say a chocolate cake is made from a set of basic ingredients and those ingredients by themselves aren't delicious. Asking someone to understand the parts of a relationship that go into a relationship that by themselves makes them feel bad, the same way that asking someone to taste the unsweetened baking cocoa that goes into a chocolate cake would make them taste something bad. A mature person can accept that all of the parts of a relationship together are great - but those individual parts are sometimes bitter and gross. The solution to the "observation bad" reaction is to not try to offer observations to people that aren't mature enough to appreciate the observations. In essence, don't cast your pearls to swine.
Jordan Peterson has covered this before i.e. women are significantly more neurotic than men and this is the principle reason why they initiate more divorces.
I think for a lot of bisexual men- it’s not that they are faking it- it’s that they don’t know how to pick up a woman. I’ve seen this firsthand.
heterosexual men have the same issue.
@@c.san.8751 Mm, .. Yess, ... So: I am straight. And: I struggled mightily with how to meet women. I only started getting some success when I was in my early 30s. (A) I was older, and (B) I found a guy who trained me up -- it was an intense and deep process. Made all the difference. I wasn't a virgin before, but I was pretty hopeless. So, I struggled in ways, and I grew older, and I met some success.
Now I am now 46, and I am friends with a young bisexual man, who's about 25. He has TONS of sex with other men. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. Finding sex for me has never ever been a quarter as easy as it is, for him to find sexual partners, have threesomes, all of it.
But he's never ever had sex with a woman, despite being attracted to women. When I was his age, I'd had sex with 4, maybe 5 women.
And my sense is: It's so easy for him to have sex with dudes, and it's so hard to have sex with chicks, that he ends up defaulting to dudes, every time. He's described the difficulty of forming sexual relationships with women, but he hasn't leaned into it nearly as much, because he can always go with men, at the end of the day.
So it's not that het men have an easier time with women. But rather, I think that it's like: straight men are backed into a corner. Women are the only game there is, for us. So if we want any sexual relationship at all, we have to study and agonize and reflect and figure it out.
Follow what I mean?
He asked me, "How do I form a sexual relationship with a woman," and I thought, "Oh my God, there's no way I can just answer that." I think I told him something like: "Sweat and tears."
I also suspect that a slowly increasing percentage of bisexual men look at the quality of the female dating pool and decide to focus on men.
Also there are virtually no woman who would ever sleep with a man that has slept with guys. Bisexual simply isn't an option for men
I'm bisexual and TRUST ME, I have ZERO problems picking up women.
Alimony
Child support
Asset redistribution
Government support.
Illiminate the rewards of provision, they would not divorce.
Actually it goes both ways. Us men are constantly bombarded with tons of women showing their butts on social media and we are getting desensitized to the point where we are no longer impressed and physical beauty becomes less valuable.
Women are so self sexualised that it’s nothing special anymore and they wonder why men are walking away 😂
All women look the same once they get the eyebrows lips and Botox done they lose there unique look and they all look the same once they go down the root of Botox make up etc !!!
Women played themselves and couldnt hold eachother accountable.
Get off the social media then. Don’t be blaming others for accounts you make lol
@@TheOlzeeyep, I have never been on social media and ironically I still find "normal" women attractive. Whodathunk?
Just need to bring back shame, and Consequences and Society will be alright.
Is that the 304 math guy?
Yes.
@@ChiefMane1wow.
"304 Math" 👍
@@Anonymous-yh4ol I don’t know if I can say hoe without my comment being removed
@ChiefMane1 Whats the name of his channel? I want to subscrtibe.
on a hippie camp i had a healing session with a woman. i had not touched her, but she told me, others would assume my behavior to her wrong; it had felt good in the moment to her. and then she claimed a false rape claim. just like that. with no reason other than "others would think i am crazy if i don't say so".
What felt good in the moment? I thought you didn't touch her?
@@gasphynx Something isn't adding up. 🤣
It's all about feelings 🤦 and NOT logic 🎉
The logic of bs feelings.
They’re insane
Social media is the new TV. TV is now radio
Nicely put...
So, there are several studies. The most reliable one is probably where they looked at the divorce rates five years later between heterosexual, lesbian, and gay couples. I don't remember the exact numbers, but the lesbian couples were divorcing at a dramatically higher rate than heterosexual couples and gay couples were divorcing at a significantly lower rate.
It's hard to compare
Yes and lesbian relationships are alot more abusive/emotional manipulative
I want to highlight something here. If you do a survey interviewing those women as to why they initiated divorce, there will be several problems with it. Let's say a woman who cheated on her husband and initiated divorce, will she ever mention in the survey that she cheated on her husband? Its more probable she will say that the marriage broke because she wasn't happy in it or content in it. No woman will mention in the survey that 'I cheated on my husband' or 'I treated my husband poorly' or 'I abused my husband'. That is why it's important to get the man's side of the story too otherwise it will become another case of 'Believe all women'
Women amplifying negative feelings can also be directed into the workplace. We noticed a correlation between plot twists on a popular soap opera that was unexpectedly negative to the hero or heroin characters and compared to incidents relating to outbursts, accusations and even formal complaints against co-workers documented at HR, that were later shown to be without any objective basis. Basically it looked as if some women were acting out the soap opera scenes in the office. The actuaries and underwriters had a betting pool and office incident metrics which gamified soap operas.
This is both hilarious and upsetting at the same time.
A bombardment of a lot of high quality information. I'm guessing that most of Moa's viewers are familiar with his models, and that I'm not, because while I appreciate the quality of the information, I found this video hard work to follow.
I've built a long career in tech. I don't have social media. By being involved with tech every day and being asked to design tech solutions for businesses I long ago came to the conclusion that we are way too dependent on tech. As a society we have eroded a sense of pragmatism by abdicating responsibility to battery powered devices in our pockets delivering a misguided sense of instant gratification. Which has given rise to a surge in blue sky thinking and impossible outcomes based on disregarding 200,000 years of evolution. What makes these clowns think that they are smart enough to change that 200,000 year growth in a few decades? I hope I live long enough to see objective reality smack them in the face.
The thing of bisexual men having more contact with men than with women in dating apps is easily explained with the fact that when you are looking for men as a man you get like 70-80 likes in no time while you only get like 2 from women. At least it´s the case for those men not at the top of attractivity for women
Shhh. It doesn't fit into the narrative.
178% for a person 20 years younger. My problem is the studies on that are always bias and have slant to them cause older women dont like guys dating younger. Cause I saw one study that's the opposite if the guy is older and the woman's younger the likihood of divorce is lower. Plus it's looking at age gap as a whole it's not looking at who's the older spouse the man or woman. If the woman's older the likihood of divorce goes up way more than if the man is older so that can skew a lot of the data in and of itself. Matter of fact the people I know where the wife is much younger stayed together longer vs those the same age.
Likelihood*, not “likihood”
@@coltonsmith3724 yeah whatever smart-ass you got the point
This statistic is right ✅ in Western nations. Being rich does not help much: about 70% of the top billionaire women are divorces or are heirs to billionaires. "I am not happy" => divorce 😒 about 70% of the time.
Eastern nation + in areas where people must fend for themselves = harder to divorce. What also helps is a court system which minimizes divorce. Ex. Philippines 🇵🇭.
"It is woman's purpose to tempt and try the will of man." from a video game :)
As a hetero man, when I am dating someone (ahem), there is a huge amount of pressure to settle down and stick with one person. My family will allude to me being immature when I don't think that the "right one" came along or is even there. But in my relationships, I'm definitely the one who is pushing for break ups when they happen after a few months. I've only been divorced once and I don't want to risk half my stuff again.
“Only been divorced once” I’m not trying to cast blame of judgment but that statement alone is evidence of how broken things have become. Even one should be too many.
@@theredsir869 Meh, you try living with her.
Most men don’t have anything to risk.😂 You can’t have it both ways claiming women have unreal financial expectations when searching for partners because most men don’t make any money and then claim men are worried about losing all of this wealth. Losing half of what?!? You’re talking about a tiny portion of men.
@@cupcake8867 > You’re talking about a tiny portion of men.
No, I'm talking about me and my experience.
The rest of your garbage reply is, well, garbage. You add nothing of value outside of your man-bashing talking points.
The ability to so clearly explain these ideas is insane.
What you said about accepting the 20+ year divorce rate gained my respect.
I am a women and I agree. I was not even aware intimal I watched the video. I think it would have been so much better if we (women) instead of blaming the men when we are very sad, to ask them for solution instead. Men are great problem solvers. And for us to reflect and pray to God and focus on the solution.The research I did states that '' Women’s greater emotional sensitivity may have evolved as a result of their role in nurturing and caring for children. This emotional sensitivity helps them respond to their children’s needs and emotions, promoting a stronger bond and increased parental investment.'' .
And yet children raised by single mothers tend to display much worse behavior as adults than children raised by single fathers... Not making fun of women actually, more like, damn, you are doomed from the very beginning, and beyond redemption
At last, some high IQ discussion.
Too highbrow, can't eat my popcorn to it :p
It's said basic observation and analysis os seen as high IQ conversation.
I would have laughed out loud at this thought a couple years ago, but it turns out the manosphere is where people with 150+ IQs wash up. It's one of the very small niches in human civilization where people contend with actual reality, instead of simplistic, emotional, conformist nonsense. The only other places I've found any rational people are small pockets on Reddit and Quora, and working at a tech startup. Intellectually speaking, 99.9% of people are simply NPCs
This is high IQ in your circles?
so women with unrealistic expectations divorce their hubby because he doesn't reach said unrealistic expectations, the math checks out.
"Men are more hesitant to commit but more likely to stay. Women want commitment but fail to honor it."
That's the best sum up I heard a few years back. I paraphrased it; the version i saw was more pithy.
We live in a culture that constantly tempts us with promises of something new, younger, more vibrant, better... Therefore, we no longer divorce because we are unhappy, but because we could be happier!
Women initiate divorce more because when a couple separate the breadwinner is not motivated to settle the finances in court, but the primary child carer is.
My first wife was very keen to get the paperwork settled after we split, so she initiated proceedings. When my 2nd wife separated from her husband she didnt file for divorce for 5 years - because no children were involved, and eventually her husband filed against her because he started a family with a new woman.
People generally split because neither side is happy. Very few divorced men say things like "i worship the ground my ex-widlfe walks on and id haver her back in a heartbeat". Generally they hate their ex-wife and are glad to see the back of them, just as I would be happy to never see my first wife again.
This is funny . Talking with my friend a while back and he said his wife was mad at him because she dreamed he had an affair even though he never would but she said she wouldn't have dreamed it if it wasn't true . Needless to say he divorced her . He should have never married her in the first place
39 here got me a taste of female nature 22-36 married and that's enough for this lifetime. Been in monk mode since I served her with papers in 2020 best damn choice of my entire life. Take my advice men stack $$ and focus you your goals and dreams if that includes a woman be prepared for a lifetime of compromise if you move her in. My best advice is if your gonna mess with a woman never trust her, never move her in, and never commit. Only trust yourself and never put someone in the drivers seat of your future by signing bad contracts call marriage.
I gotta side with you on this one. I lived with two women, and it seems like it's never enough for them. I stopped dating a couple years ago and while I still like to spend time with women, it's more of a hobby than trying to find a wife.
Fellows do yourselves a favor and don’t get married it’s statistically one of the worst decisions you could possibly make.
I remember the first time a girl pulled the "sh!t test" after we had been dating for a few weeks. She out of the blue started accusing me that I would "sleep with her mother if I had the chance." I had no idea where it came from or how I was even supposed to respond, like how could I prove I wouldn't do that? I had not really said anything about her mother or made a move on her or anything like that. It built up where me denying it was being considered more proof that I would do it. I had no idea what it was all about at the time but now I realize it was just the classic sh!t test.
4:46 “Someone asked me if I hate vvomen…because of how I depict them.”
You’re not depicting them, they present themselves that way.
Calling a spade a spade is not hatred.
Just because the truth gives vvomen bad feelings doesn’t mean it’s hateful.
Man tells truth
Women: “why do you hate meee”?! *sobs*
Will Hoe Math be releasing this information with the illustrations as a book?
I would definitely purchase
Men like video games that make them angry. If when you die in mario and you feel nothing, the game means nothing to you. Women are the same with men. If she isn't angry at the fantasies in her head that you might be thinking of other women, 2D or 3D, she isn't invested.
I believe this is why woman wont date men that makes less than them, if a woman divorces a man that makes less than them they are more likely to not get anything out of the divorce or even worse end up having to pay
We need some kind of graphic designer to re-do the hoe math drawings and publish it for the masses. It will best seller
Woman don’t initiate problems for no reason, they settled and married down(mentally) hoping that you will mature out or change, and when you don’t they get mad. I know because I am a guy and I get mad at a woman I dated who was mentally less mature than me. Btw love the conversations and analysis you guys have, specially the women dating up and got their standards stuck park. I think it was spot on
The two main reasons for divorce in the United States:
1. Money 💰
2. infidelity 🌶️
'PERCEIVED' infidelity. My wife complained that I was emotionally unfaithful, because I wasn't home enough to listen to her crap. But I was supposed to work two jobs to pay for the house she wanted. I lose either way; either I'm not making enough money, or I'm not home enough. Women are never happy; it's always something.
This is so true: I worked for a Law Firm while in college, and almost every single woman who came in was hysterical over just discovering her husband’s infidelity. I’ll never forget the one who had 4 children with her husband, and had just discovered he kept a mistress in both of the cities he regularly traveled to on business. One of my little part-time gopher jobs each morning was to check tissue boxes strategically placed in offices & conference rooms and be sure they were filled. The commentary about more women filing is very careful to avoid this ugly little fact.
From Google:
The fable describes how a hungry grasshopper begs for food from an ant when winter comes and is refused. The situation sums up moral lessons about the virtues of hard work and planning for the future.
This what's in store for people who want to live in delusion.
I say people because I include the simps that are always siding with women and spending money on them.
Natural selection will do it's job.
The person who initiates divorce is NOT the person who files the papers.
The person who initiates divorce is the person who is first to violate the terms of the marriage contract - the marriage vows, assuming any were made.
It’s amazing how we blame Chinese for everything. We have the freedom to make and watch any content we want. We could consume educational and positive content 24/7, but we choose not to. That’s not the Chinese’s fault. We’ve been drawn to stupid content before tiktok or smartphones ever came into existence like Benny Hill and Beavis and Butthead. That’s not the Chinese doing that. That’s us.
Exactly. It's like how the Americans blame the Chinese for the trade imbalances when you guys buy their products. 🤦🙄
Fair enough, but what the Chinese are doing is still an attack. We will suffer for choosing it, but they will suffer for making it available. Luke 17:1 - Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offenses will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!
My first husband left me for a man much to my surprise, the second for a woman at work, the last fell a part because of his drug and alcohol problems. They all left me with the cleanup I.e….handling the paperwork. I filed for divorce every time. The one handling the paperwork is not necessarily the one who left the marriage. None of mine had anything to do with social media.
Women quit when they realise they can't get their way. Men quit when they realise they can't work together in the relationship 😅
What if the bisexual men find it difficult and annoying to message women, like the rest of us straight men, while messaging men yields much greater positive results??
Message 100 women, no answer.
Message 10 gay or bisexual men, sleep with 8 of them that week 😅😂
Best way to handle this is for guys to get real, increase their value, be a leader, make tons of money, and NEVER play stupid games with females.
One way you could rhetorically answer someone dissing your work by calling you an "incel" would be :
"¿Do you prefer to insult me, or do you prefer NOT being OBLIVIOUS to reality? The choice is yours."
Or
"If you feel the need to attack my ego, because of the facts I present, maybe that means those facts hurt your ego."
The numbers I've seen have been all over the place but the relationships extremely consistent.
Gay men divorce rate is 'X'.
Lesbian divorce rate is ~2.5x (I've seen 2.0 to 3.0)
Straight divorce rate is around the mid-point of the two figures.
If you expect a problem, it will appear. STOP EXPECTING PROBLEMS
How come that doesn't work with expecting eternal bliss?
It's a good thing that you two cis males know so much about lesbians!
The more women you add to a relationship the more volatile and violent it becomes.
I need this book.
Love ❤️ the basic drawings
Do these self destructive women exist?.. yes they do .
But the reason they have this problem is more then likely abuse from their childhood.
I Have known women like this when I was younger. They would self sabotage a very good relationship. I would watch them do it. In every case there was child abuse .
Abuse can come in many forms not just sexual or even physical. There is mental abuse.
Instead of assuming “ALL” women are like this , like it’s a natural behavior in women .
Try and step back and realize what could be the root cause .
Very good observation, when men and women point out the reality of things they are being called depending on the narrative either an incel, or pick me, because it is negatively towards this or that gender. I think those things are matrix defense mechanisms. When Tate a man with the highest SMV however says it, he can hardly be called an incel, we need men like him to break the narrative and matrix, to say what has been said for years but always ignored until we can finally speak freely again.
Tate? We don’t need a Tate to do so bro
@@alexanderseton We obviously do, how could you come to a different conclusion than that?
Actually that rates of divorces of ~45-50% are only just the annual figure of marriages to divorces. However over a 40 year period, marriage has a 67% divorce rate. Send it.
You’re almost in the right track what happens is this women make decisions and take actions according to their feelings. That’s the reason why they are never happy and look for that emotional rush by creating problems but that is due our menstrual cycle. The hormones each week creates a different mood that’s why women had this crazy pull to fill in that emotional imbalance by creating conflict.
At least you have excuses. Excuses are just justification for bad behavior though. And justifying bad behavior is what women do.
You’ve made me realise that there is no way that I will give my money, sanity and future to a woman that can make life changing decisions off her feelings depending on the monthly cycle 👏 I think I’ll stay single 😂😂😂
You deserve yourselves
Actually i would say with this "negative emotion" hardware it's not the lack of equipment, but a feedback loop as the two women's shit test feed into each other and explodes out of control.
Lesbian couples getting divorced when they have a child is exactly what happened to two lesbian couples that I know...Good job brother.
Ahh, some good content. Good to see hoe_math branching out.
Honestly whether man or woman, this is useful stuff.
How good do you women feel with the society you helped mold. DATING IS A HELLSCAPE.
Marriage itself is legally a contract, a prenup means you wrote it yourself.
The 'problem' is too many women, honestly, and knowingly want to live in ignorance. Their emotional volatility actually gives them a degree of choice in how they view reality. This is part of why it's difficult for men to understand. Most of simply do not get the choice. Reality is reality, and it's going to follow the same rules tomorrow after I wake up, as it will in 100 years from now.
Women on the other hand, really struggle with the harsh reality of life. They have strong emotional reactions to silly and sweet things like kids, and pretty things. And then they have strong negative emotional reactions to things they don't like. Like paying bills. Or stress. They know they can ignore the stressful things, and double down on the sweet. And they know it will make them feel amazing if they do that.
The flaw in this theory is that the marriage rates between two women are also higher than that of two men. Its not like they are getting married at equal rates.
I can tell you why I initiated divorce, but i cant speak for all women. I was tired of working twelve hour shifts and coming home to a second job of cleaning up and cooking for a grown man. After numerous conversations about how i was burnt out and needed some help, nothing was done and i was never listened to. And no I don't collect alimony or child support.
Same reasons women leave women in lesbian relationships. I don't feel loved. I don't feel appreciated. I don't feel listened to. It's one sided. I give everything. Unreasonable behavior. Adultery. Blah blah blah. You're saying nothing new.
If you are married and your wife isn’t treating you right, just find a woman that will. 4 out of 5 times that will straighten her up. If not, don’t spend the $ divorcing, just do whatever/whoever you want on the side.
i am going to watch your podcast as it so informative.