Is US military strong enough to take on China? (2016)
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- Опубликовано: 16 ноя 2016
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Vatican city Vs NATO
GG NATO
Pope Francis will summon a great thunderstorm wiping out the entirety of Europe and North America, gg easy.
I don't think NATO can withstand the heavenly legions
The Vatican would obviously win because they have GOD on their side.
He should do this next
lol 1 airstrike by British fighter jets, done ^_^
Well done, and I think Russia vs. China would be a great video too
that sounds awesome!
Enclave Soldier the country is Russia allies
bro its just for a cool scenario
+Dai huan Tran That will most likely change with Trump presidency.
China and russia arent allies.trump plans to team up with russia against china
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Yes daddy, err I mean ya man
Binkov! Love the content, could you do an update with US allies? Also it would be cool if you did a video of a possible WW3, Like, Russia, china, North Korea, extc vs USA & Allies.
whatever happens, the true winners will be rock fish and crows.
Allies NATO United Nation Western Power & Axis CSTO BRICS Eastern Power Defectors Invasion of China Operation Final Countdown:0:16,0:20,0:24,0:27,0:33,0:40,0:47,0:51,0:59,1:06,1:11,1:17,1:19,1:25,1:30,1:36,1:41,1:51,2:07,2:14,2:21,2:29,2:35,2:44,2:51,2:57,3:07,3:15,3:22,3:35,3:41,3:46,3:52,3:57,4:05,4:10,4:19,4:23,4:29,4:37,4:40,4:46,4:52,5:01,5:05,5:14,5:19,5:27,5:36,5:40,5:44,5:50,5:54,6:01,6:05,6:10,6:16,6:24,6:29,6:32,6:37,6:43,6:54,7:05,7:10,7:17,7:25,7:34,7:38,7:43,7:50,7:58,8:04,8:11,8:17,8:21,8:29,8:33,8:38,8:42,8:45,8:48,8:56,9:01,9:03,9:06,9:16,9:22,9:25,9:32,9:34,(9:42)
North Korea vs SOUTH KOREA PLEASEE
Fabio Ganassini South Korea wins within 5 months
North korea use guerriglia mode
Fabio Ganassini not with a starving population
Their population wouldn't be /willing/ to go guerrilla.
A betting man, would put his money on the DPRK.
"North" Korea
- Only Korea
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Love your work. I'm curious about where you go to get your numbers; particularly for past conflicts like WW2.
Plz make a video of Thailand vs Singapore
Coronavirus vs This world
@@user-tl5xb3fl7u It actually doesn't and it's rightfully not the same colour. They're Taiwanese, not Chinese.
Do a video on the EU vs USA.
It’s been four years. Need an update.
Or an expansion.
China, North Korea, and Pakistan vs USA , Japan, Australia, and India
south korea?
All In One thanks, how could I forget
@@peterprovenzano9039 what?
All In One I forgot to include South Korea in the needed update of the video. Thanks for correcting me
@@peterprovenzano9039 u missed israel, if israel support usa then whole arab union will support china pakistan
wouldn't mind seeing this with allies involved.
China's recent actions may start this war. I believe that due to COVID and China's deception, the USA would have even more (unlikely) allies to crush the CCP. The USA needs to seriously prepare for such an event, making itself more independent from China's manufacturing.
It’s China who needs allies not USA 😂
Yeah let's include NATO
@@jamesondee1216 China has a lot of allies LMAOOO
David Parker lol
USA vs China: Japan lost
X Y nope,japan will be very happy,Korean war is a good example。
@@mikasaber972 You are happily playing star war at your neighbor's house does not mean you will be happy about neighbors playing it at your bed room
@@mikasaber972 If the U.S use Japan as their staging base, I believe they will receive the first missile attack, Japan will become the victim of the war.
USA win because he is USA people
That's right. Japan won't be hit by a nuclear attack in wartime, which is strategically important to start with, and it won't cost much to occupy.
You forgot about South Korea they would help the US with airbases etc.
But russia could help china as well. I don't think helping us attacking china is in the best interest for south korea, they might use the time to deal with north korea
Don't forgot about Taiwan as well, they have bases ready for US deployment within 18 hours for fulfilling mutual defense treaty.
yeah for about 8 minutes, then they'd get nuked
there are also ballistic missles and moab they could strike chinese hq and important areas there is also cruise missle wich could stike air defence and other thing
Yes, South Korea has excellent nuclear defense system which is provided by USA. And Vietnam eventually will join USA as well to fight against China.
And millions of Vietnamese people in Vietnam and in America really hate the fuck out of China and want China to get destroyed by America in anyway possible.
And India hates the fuck out of China for several reasons too. India WILL join America to attack China from India border. So for that matter, China does NOT stand a chance at all. So BRING IT ON !!!
This is going to be very useful, given the current circumstances
Im here on 2020
Although might require some equipment update. I believe in the meantime China has produced a couple of carriers as well? Although that alone probably wouldn't change the outcome. Will need to include allies too.
Also might have to take into account the use of small nukes for strategic targets, since that seems to be a growing tendency... sadly.
@A proud Indian China deosn't even have 4th gen jet fighter, they have only 3rd gen
@A proud Indian fake news, they pretend they have it, its just model
@A proud Indian which is why i said its a 3rd gen model
Binkov! It`s 2021! Isnt it time for a small up-to-date? :) Best regards!
China will overpower
@@Dom-kk4sl well no
Se ele fizer uma atualização em 2022, a situação será completamente diferente.
O poder chinês em todos os campos aumenta de forma brutal a cada dez anos.
Em 2021 a China superou os EUA no campo da inteligência artificial.
Até 2030 terá quatro porta aviões modernos e com aviões de combate de quinta geração no último que está sendo construído que terá perto de cem mil toneladas de deslocamento.
Algo que não existia em 2016.
Em 2021 a China superou os EUA na tecnologia de mísseis hipersônicos.
Algo que também não existia em 2016.
Em 2028 a economia chinesa se tornará oficialmente a maior do planeta.
Poderia ficar horas enumerando cada aspecto do poder chinês e sua superioridade frente aos EUA.
@@campinasvendas298
every nation reaches its peak and start falling after that, the good days for usa is passing quickly
Iran vs Saudi Arabia would be nice, great video btw
Yemen vs Saudi
Saudi Arabia would fucking kick Yemen's ass are you kidding me
King Stannis Baratheon www.activistpost.com/2016/07/houthi-rebels-invade-saudi-arabia-launch-ballistic-missile-in-counter-offensive.html
King Stannis Baratheon spanish.almanar.com.lb/cat/news/noticias-regionales/yemen
According to military sources the E.A.U air force will wipe out Iranian air force in matter of hours!!!
If Iran was so power full why Russia needed to go aid them in Syria???
Fantastic video Binkov. I'd be interested to see one with North vs South Korea but without anyone else intervening.
EmperorTigerstar it's already North Korea. NK has a big army compared to SK.
ExplodingHam I'd still enjoy the video.
+ExplodingHam North Korea is receiving oil from nobody and produces 0 barrels a day. The inefficiency of their Soviet era arsenal of armored vehicles would reduce their fuel time to 2 weeks -- that is, after 2 weeks, they wont have any oil left. They would resort to their nuclear weapons.
wouldn't ever happen. Don't you think US watching for DPRK invasion? As soon as that leaked out or was seen on satellite, US would turn Pyonyang into a shattered glass bowl.
Erik Charles I said *without* foreign interference. That's always the premise of Binkov's videos.
Taiwan: Am I joke to you?
Ahahaha
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Nnjkk
allies were not included in scenario till end
No. but since You asked to participate, could You provide an Insurgency?
pray world never have war again❤️
Peace only causes war sadly
Yeah mate tired af of dying and getting reborn for like 3 tines
@@Grim_Yeeter hahahaha
Make a 2019 ww3 scenario with all allies involved
They are make now china vs US.PH.RUSSIA.JAPAN.BRITISH.TAIWAN THIS TRUTH SAY THEY ARE MAKE NOW WORLD WAR 3
China he want philippines sea lol now ph he will attack as soon so far so good
Sorry im. Bad english
China owns everything since ancient times..
billy bill
It will be US, UK, Japan, South Korea, and Australia vs China, Russia, North Korea, and Pakistan.
Finally a guy whole discusses what would logically happen from a strategic standpoint rather than that country attacks and wins
TheAbsoluteBest But this video explains why and the way generals from both sides would make decisions that would effect outcomes. you have to remember that human error can get involved and could disastrous for either side, generals can be either bad or good at their jobs and last thing you want is arrogant ignorant stupid generals who refuse to think or listen.
I in reality think both nations have a lot of technology that is not public knowledge that may effect the outcome. These scenario are from what we know about a nations technology.
TheAbsoluteBest what do you imply with your comment?
TheAbsoluteBest With the military budget america has I would expect no less, The state of america as a civilized nation is another issue
it would screw up the Chinese economy
Going off of public knowledge alone, I do think he's grossly underestimating the US Airforce. If China can't counter stealth tech, F-22s will do a lot to diminish its airforce, in combination with the (undefeated) F-15C. Assuming the US waits to claim air superiority before starting stealth airstrikes. Raptors will likely escort B2s and F-117s (type-1000 storage), right to the target areas of Chinese air defense systems. The US probably doesn't lose any stealth craft in this scenario, deeper strikes can be made by non-stealth aircraft (F-15E), and they open the door for Naval Air. Speaking of which, he neglects the fact that Pearl harbor is still active along with an AFB. So at least one carrier group will be there in half the time. The B2 has a range of over 11,000km, so even launching from mainland US they'd only "need" to tank up once diverting to a closer airfield post strike.
We'll need an update of this video in a few years.
USA and China fighting
China: haha I won
USA: haha I won
Meanwhile Japan
Japan: you want me to turn into the empire of Japan
"The greatest US enemy would be geography." Ah, our old nemesis.
Indeed, friend...indeed...
Nah the greatest nemesis would be a man who suggests building huge walls, says global warming is not real and tries to sexually assault beautiful women being the president leading the nation into a war. *wink**wink*
TheGamingIndian brainwashed idiot
No, it is our greatest friend. Kept the Germans at bay.
no not brainwashed he is simply speaking truthfully
However in realistic terms I dont think China will be fighting alone in this war either.
The Deaf Mute China only has Russia and the U.S has nato. Plus Trump and Putin seem to get along well, so I wouldn't be surprised if Russia stayed neutral
stay neutal? for russian?
hell no, russian will attack china from the north if this happens
The Deaf Mute Russia and China have several border disputes, quite a bit of tension due to China breaking multiple trade deals with Russia and illegally copying Russian technology. They're not strong allies and haven't been since the 60s. Instead of allying with China, Russia would probably use the opportunity to take over large areas of China from the north while Chinese forces were deployed along the coast.
Vision then nukes would be thrown around and no one wins , china is not Afghan or Iraq
In all likelihood they will only have North Korea willing to support them. Russia and China don't have close enough relations to go to war together and Russia would have little to gain from getting into World War III.
Long story short: We win, but will cost us a big portion of our defense.
With our budget we can make china pay reparations, build it back up may take a long time
I’m getting more of a second great famine vibe as soon as the US cuts of china’s trade route
ridiculus. you put australia , japons and other with usa and none with china. tawain will be the first target of cina and russia xill attacked very fast northzrn usa.. philipine will not go in this mess. india of course not. that means it will be a drawn, and both will be weakers.and china tech'ologie improve very fast. each island they put in china sea received already weapons.both countries xill come back in midle adge
@@christianlegoff1434 You do understand that this video is about no allies and nukes right? Also if it was real US and its allies would been better prepared(Taiwan included) to launch a attack. India, Taiwan, Australia and Japan is set as "USA allies" since all those countries have problems with chinese sphere of influence and would have much to gain from its demise.
Wooo
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Airplay lol
The racist dude delete his comment
@@gg-sr6ju What did they say?
As a Chinese who lived in America for a long time I allege peace for every country in the world. No one on the earth would like to see war happens.
Of course, it's just fan boys and little kids on both sides screaming at each other. If the countries on earth was governed by then, Earth would have been gone a long ago.
Thor Sebastion you are so naive dude,you know what.Just one thing .by going through wall between our Chinese internet.i know things that bad in my country in your view.we admit it.but generrally things are good here. You can not see a thing clearly by judging from the information in your country.my friend i can understand your language while you can not understand ours . How could you say this things without knowing even a bit firsthand rawChinese information 😃
Mofan Guo amen man, be united
Yeah I can't see a war between America and China happening. There's no benefit for either side. We're better off as trading partners. Hopefully Trump sees that.
We are not better off as trading partners. China's trading "relationship" with the US has been exploitative on the part of China. They have stolen US technology, manipulated their currency to put us in debt, and used the wealth they acquired from trading with us to bolster their own strength against us. Their foreign policy is completely hostile to us, China only cares for the Han people and no-one else (and even then it's still an oligarchy with the heads of the CCP heading over 90% percent of the major industry). China hates the west because of the opium wars/our trading outposts during the colonial era and because they envied our success for the past few centuries.
The more power China has, the more they will use against us. If not for those reasons than certainly because we are competition to their goal of global supremacy. It is the way of the world, life is a shark tank. Peace is impossible because no matter how hard you try survival of the fittest will always come back into the equation. The strong eat the weak, so let's not allow ourselves to become weak? Continuing this lopsided trading relationship certainly is a sign of weakness. As is not challenging the Chinese militarily.
If we have war we will end up looking like Mars lmao
Eastern China would. At least in this scenario.
No, the Pacific might, but not the world
Go watch a series on RUclips called Shattered Citadel, it's about WW3 that starts in 2055. Super good stuff.
Jacob Martin why
Cause there's some heavy nuke action that happens early in the war.
Nanking part 2 playing in theaters nation wide also available on Netflix.
中国大陆最起码有自知之明,知道和美国的差距还很多,还需要努力追赶,但台湾就不一样,宇宙第一,打遍天下无敌手,台湾南玻万!
@@user-dc6zq5nd6d Eh?
Oh no *flashback of Japanese brutality in nanking*
IJA: “Nice place, nigga”
I would love a Washington massacre
I'd be interested to see an indepth current year analysis with a USA/Australia/India/Japanese Coalition
And Taiwan 🇹🇼 and likely South Korea 🇰🇷
Allies NATO United Nation Western Power & Axis CSTO BRICS Eastern Power Defectors Invasion of China Operation Final Countdown:0:16,0:20,0:24,0:27,0:33,0:40,0:47,0:51,0:59,1:06,1:11,1:17,1:19,1:25,1:30,1:36,1:41,1:51,2:07,2:14,2:21,2:29,2:35,2:44,2:51,2:57,3:07,3:15,3:22,3:35,3:41,3:46,3:52,3:57,4:05,4:10,4:19,4:23,4:29,4:37,4:40,4:46,4:52,5:01,5:05,5:14,5:19,5:27,5:36,5:40,5:44,5:50,5:54,6:01,6:05,6:10,6:16,6:24,6:29,6:32,6:37,6:43,6:54,7:05,7:10,7:17,7:25,7:34,7:38,7:43,7:50,7:58,8:04,8:11,8:17,8:21,8:29,8:33,8:38,8:42,8:45,8:48,8:56,9:01,9:03,9:06,9:16,9:22,9:25,9:32,9:34,(9:42)
EU vs US Arena Battle ;)
Feuer der Veränderung EU does not have a military
No, but the nations in the EU do.
arealbigboss
They are planning to get one soon.
If its the entire EU, then make it North America vs Western Europe.
Until the EU gets their act together, that would be a pretty one sided battle.
*China was at war with the US in Korea & Vietnam. We won both.*
Shanghai Noon In Korea was a draw.But not only China wins in Vietman , USSR does to.
China didn't win in Korea, because of The UN imposing the ceasefire
USA had already crossed the border and nearing Pyongyang when the ceasefire was imposed so technically The US won
For Vietnam The US withdrew their troops due to unpoplar support at home
Tonii nope, Korea was not a draw. The ceasefire was America's idea because they were bankrupt.
Shanghai Noon America finish the war because casualties were to much
Tonii the south gave the north the city of Kaesong to sign the ceasefire lol.
The Soviet Union sat up from the grave: finally my turn.
It turned out Stalin actually gained immortality and launched his nukes.
I mean America, NATO, India, Japan, and South Korea could probably beat China, Russia, Pakistan, and North Korea…
@@c.i.a.932 not when turkey wont help nato
that overflowing dam would be a big target , how much industry is down stream
I bet. there will be no war.
Between the "Super Powers" it will be mostly a pen and paper war, both sides have too much to lose going all out war. Thats why they stick to invading the smaller country's who cant do shit about it.
I will take that bet! Give me your bank account and I wll give you mine. Just say how much$$$?
SmokeyCRO are you serious?
Right now you're very wrong
这个视频表达的什么意思,有明白的帮我解释一下。
i fail to see what either party would gain from a war.
Lem0nsquid In reality nothing. This is just a hypothetical scenario examining military capability.
That´s why they don´t actually do it
that's why both countries are engaged in empty threats. each country will portray that opposite country attacked and if they knew they were in the wrong, it won't be covered in the media and will be dealt secretly by authority and ministers.
if it was true, the whole world will suffer from their silly behaviors.
The USA would have its debt wiped out with China, thats kinda huge. Also, its not about gaining, sometimes its about STOPPING someone from becoming the new super power.
Patrick Henry yea i understand that. but i wonder if we would be willing to do that. the only way i see china not becoming a super power is if we decimate at least half their population
Excellent video, thank you
Oh we'll find out this year
I love this channel. It actually does its research unlike other war simulation channels. Keep it up, Binkov!
However, the economic damage would most likely be the most serious part.
Badger0fDeath Both. China loses money from not being able to sell its manufacturing goods while the US loses by not having any products to consume.
Badger0fDeath
Both, but I would say more on China. But it would suck for both sides.
jthedog The US lacks the industrial base to build consumer products.
+RM Nimitz Actually China can marginally produce more aircraft and other stuff than USA, but the quality of Chinese products is the question
They have good manpower but how effective they are?
Chinese Navy will be destroyed as USA can destroy its coast
Most of The Chinese Airforce in the East will be wiped out and they would have to go to Western China to train
Also Chinese production will be hampered by air attacks so USA will eventually win
DragonDroid Yes, but the US has practically no commercial or civilian manufacturing base because the vast majority of it has been outsourced.
The Chinese Anti-Ship ballistic missiles prevent US ships from coming too close (lesson learned from the Taiwan Strait).
The US airforce will also be at a significant numerical disadvantage. Again, the US military also needs to be at standby in Europe protecting against Russia while also being in the middle east protecting the Arab states against Iran.
The issue about Chinese production being hampered is that in the space of this war (1-2 years), not many planes are going to be built. The US can only produce single to double-digits in plane manufacturing per year. The difference of 50-100 planes (at max production) over the entire course of the war is unlikely to significantly change things.
When you question their quality, it is pretty stupid to associate civilian manufacturing with the quality of their military manufacturing. Looking at their excellent rocket production record, it doesn't mean that their military manufacturing is bad.
The Armenia-Azeirbajan war is already happening, I bet this one is the next.
Would love to see an updated version of this video
It has already been done
@@guillaumel9977 Whats the name of the vid?
@@kuolevijyrkinen4675 here the link brother : ruclips.net/video/FxYwD_n21wI/видео.html
@@guillaumel9977 Thank you
@@kuolevijyrkinen4675 You re welcome !
do Uk vs Argentina 2nd Falkland's war
of course UK had won ^^
are you british?
argentina win
they really would, theyre a world super power.
***** exactly
Excellent analysis.
Awsome videos im a new fan of your page.
i'am waiting for USA to do this , it is the only ultimate way of Tibet's independence
做梦
@Leonhard Euler fook you
@Markmarkus0911 user Lol everything could happen in your sweet dreams
@@mikehe3646 you gonna sign up for the PLA if this happens? Or you you going to be like the rest of your country men and hide behind a computer
fuck u
China will hopefully get buffed in the next update patch
Bt 2045, China's defense budget will roughly match that of America's. Can you imagine that? Two superpowers both each spending ~$1.3 trillion annually on weapons and shit. God have mercy...
That's assuming US is frozen in time. US is still growing, it still isn't close to reaching it's potential.
Godlike
Pikachu
Trinity TM lol
Trinity TM No, it's really just that America is broken. Cut its military funding in half to balance the game.
dont start a war. everyone makes his own money and enjoy life
+1
how about a Nerf war
Sweet video!!
Considering what's happened in past 3 months...japan, Australia and India would gladly help us.but it would still be horrific over all
@@zabuspler6285 my apologies sir I have to find out how to translate this. But thank you for replying. My apologies
What about the forces already stationed in South Korea? You said no allies but allowed for Japan since the USA already had forces, why not SK?
If South Korea attacked, it would be nuked by N. Korea since China is the closest ally of N. Korea.
Alq
He said no nukes and no allies. I was just meaning that he didn't account for the USA forces already in SK.
I'm Nubby It's a completely unrealistic analysis not considering allies.
*****
How so? Can you give me the time-stamp that he accounts for bases set up and operated by the USA in south korea just like japan?
I'm Nubby there would be world war 3. think about it.. the South East Asia Treaty Organization says that if there was an attack on any country near the allies on either South Korea, Japan, Australia, Taiwan, Philippines or any there the allies would fight China and Russia would be involved too. even North Korea
YOU SHOULD MAKE 2019 CHINA VS USA
Pretty much the video lol
Skyhawk Lover yes let's do it! Share the love...
It's not really much different. China has some more advanced tech being deployed but the numbers are far too small to make any sort of major difference. If anything, full scale deployment of F-35s would eventually outstrip them anyways and tip the coastal harassment phase further in the USA's favor
They would lose even more easily
One word. Subs.
US enjoy a huge advantage over China in SSN and SSBN.
China's SSK can't venture out to harass US Navy and they only have a dozen SSN and SSBN of low quality.
Until this changes for China, they will never win against the US.
So it won't matter if he did a video this year. Maybe in 5-10 years, this category will be different.
Can you do a remake of this vid for 2023?
first one Ive seen.
Great!
love the muppet
omg, the airplane bigger than my country
unidentified person yup, to thicc :D
Lmao
unidentified person hahahaha
Hahahahaha
My country is slightly bigger.
Canadian snipers would 360 no scope the chinese from Canada eh.
Lol, I love the "eh" at the end. I broke out laughing more than I should have xD.
RUSH B
Do you guys even have a military
Zion Mainframe LOLLLLL
scope us with what? tim horton or mapple sugar?
This video helps me sleep better
This aged very well....
im sure everyone would like to see israel vs iran :)
Yos Kolesnik iran would lose lol
i know lol im from israel.i want to see how israel would wreck iran
Yos Kolesnik I think Israel vs Saudi Arabia would be a fairer fight. I hope they do Pakistan vs India
זה קצת לא הגיוני בגלל שכדי שאירן תגיע לישראל היא צריכה לעבור הרבה מדינות
אפשר לעשות משהו
" I don't know what World War 3 will be fought with. But I know World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." ~ Albert Einstein
Yea this video completely misses this basic point. Any US china war would either be a carefully contained affair or would result in all out nuclear warfare.
also, this video misses how US economy will get messed up by invading China.
The U.S economy has stagnated due to the cost/benefit of importing (since they are extremely capitalistic), whether the industry is being used or not, most of it is still in place and can be activated in a short period of time, the U.S economy wouldn't be that crippled, it would simply revert to a 60s-70s economy based on self reliance and exporting. Short term the loss of income and goods from china would hurt, but not extremely severe, in addition a breakdown in relations in the superpowers would be relatively known before hand and both would be in a war-time economy by the time it would begin
I don't think you are right.
Big_Ricardo21 no fidget spinners
You should be promoted to General Biknov! Well done!
This is a fun video, but it has less filling than a poptart. To assume that allies on both sides would sit idly by while two superpowers duked it out for months is a little naïve. It would be difficult to really factor in each nation and what they could accomplish for their respective allies, but it would make for a nice mini-series to explore the subject. I'm sure you'd be up to the task, though.
USA vs China ( Japan loose)
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Lol nice
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Yeaah, suuure. More like it will be end for Chinese economics and chinese themselves in final and even bigger debt in USA budget. Japan will rebuild itself as always when chinese will kill each other just like they do now already and Americans will suffer from another wave of people with ptsd since they became weak and naive.
Law Gun
Srsly China and US are stromger than you think
why we fight, can we just stay at home and play games till dead
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So THAT is how fallout's world was born
I feel this is coming, and allies will happily take part. Touch wood.
Trust me, their are 0.2% chance of this happening, it won’t be beneficial for both country’s and will not accomplish anything but damage the economy, both China and the US wants to avoid this scenario.
@@beifeng7448 .2% happening today, who knows what terror the future holds?
Feels like everytime I watch one of these "USA vs ___" Usa would always win and people would argue about it. I personally think that both America and China are great countries, but most people think China is a place of dead dogs.... :3
WTF are you talking about. America is not that bad yet, beside next year we have Mr. Trump as our President. He will make America great again.
Chubby Gorilla America would win chinas military is week there ground force are pathetic US infantry price is about 3.5 grand chinas is 1.5 half of it is the gun alone there armor is just a sad excuse but there's so many of them that's why there powerful
JPSxQualms you clearly have never went to china
The Maestro it's all about war for you isn't it :/
dgfpat just my opinion bro hehe
World War II and the Korean and Vietnam Wars completely disprove this video. Geography proved no obstacle for the US to destroy Japan, North Korea and Indochina. The US would quickly deploy troops to deal with China and, while perhaps not easily beat it, still quickly take them out of Japan and into mainland China where most of the war would occur. The video is also laughable by suggesting China could sink US warships so easily. No, it can't. US warships stationed in the South China Sea in fact have a higher chance of sinking Chinese warships and even destroy much of the Chinese navy. China can win a war of attrition, at the cost of devastating itself, but that's about it.
This is a military analysis. Losses are usually generated as pretty generous and typically 'worst case scenario.' It's arrogant to think that the US would not lose any ships during a full on war with China.
I also think that the video assumes losses = not combat capable. If a ship is damaged enough that it's not operating at combat efficiency it'll pull out and be considered a loss since it's no longer contributing to the war effort and will require time to repair. At this time the Navy will cycle out any ships that aren't fighting at their peak for new ships because remember they can only maintain a certain number of ships. Might as well make sure all the ships you have are at their best.
"Geography proved no obstacle for the US to destroy Japan, North Korea and Indochina."
Do you know anything about those wars? With the exception of perhaps Korea, terrain was the bane of the US military. And there's a reason the quote goes, "Do not go fighting with your land armies in China."
The US couldn't land more than a couple, maybe two hundred thousand troops at once, and that's a VERY generous estimate. The Chinese would likely be able to push them back into the sea by the time more US troops could be deployed. Though if an ally were to be added, like India, for example, China would likely have to focus it's land forces along that border, and so a full naval invasion MIGHT be an option, though the US wouldn't see it as worth it. Allies or not, the US would know they're winning the war in the long run, and wouldn't want to lose the tens if not hundreds of thousands of troops that it would take to do a land invasion.
Plus, there's no real reason in the video's scenario to perform a land invasion. The US wouldn't be able to annex or even occupy much Chinese land, as an occupation of somewhere like Afghanistan is obviously incredibly difficult, let alone China. There's no reason the US would want to land more than token troops to raid specific targets. They wouldn't need to do that to beat the Chinese.
Though obviously no war between these two would be a good thing. The world economy would just kill itself and the death toll would be unthinkably massive, seeing as allies do actually exist, and land war would likely be an option. (Though not necessarily a necessity. India wouldn't want to lose the kind of troops it would fighting a land war against the Chinese.)
he said nothing about the us assuming no losses...... but considering how many other assets the US has i highly doubt this to be a problem. we have already demonstrated our lack of care for other nations lives... we did nuclear bomb 2 cities during ww2 i don't think the nation would have any remorse of bombing the entire country if it came down to it...
The US repeatedly offered Japan surrender before the bombings, and even offered them surrender between the two bombings. The Japanese Emperor forced the Americans' hand. Also, the US has treated it's war enemies with a lot more respect than a hell of a lot of countries on Earth. I know they aren't perfect, but the US is a pretty good country. I shudder to think what other nations like China would have done with the sort of monopoly on power the US has seen over the past eighty or more years.
What about the US bases in South Korea? It’s much more nearer to Beijing?
north korea
also India Taiwan Phillipines and others would probably help against China
Just release a new form of Sars I bet that would do some damage
Soon we will release a new form of atom in china
*The Nuclear bomb* i dont see any civilians dying in that situation ;)
Make more please I love these!
I'm American and honestly I think China would be our hardest fight ever and nobody would really "win". Some of my best friends are Chinese and they are loyal..strong beautiful people. Hope this would never happen. Blessings and love from USA to China!! ✌️&💜
Jeffrey Scott not the chinese people but the communist party that is the enemy. Gd nixon for ever opening up china in the first place
The problem is geography
But hey they can not even come near USA
well if china government will continue behave like it does it will happen and us with allies will take them down.
I have Chinese friends but their government is horrible.
Shut up pussy
They thought that about japan..We always figure out how to win.
Overall, great video, obviously a lot of time and thought into it. My only piece of constructive criticism, if you decide to make a new updated video, is that this video was under the impression that war broke out suddenly with no time to prepare. But most major wars, especially this one, would start with a lot of buildup and posturing. Maybe do a scenario in which the US and China had months to strategically move around troops before the start.
Also, the US has many secret, small airfields throughout the south pacific.
It would just be over sooner in the usa favor not really worth a video
The only way to defeat china is forcing a surrender,invading china is impossible as it's just to big the same thing would happen as it happened when Germany invaded Soviets.But then again imperial Japan did it so maybe
A lot has changed in 4 years
I have to say, most parts of this video seems right, however, you forgot about peoples will for the war and how fast eproduction speed could happened during the war. China is well known as word manufacture,,and it has the largest ship produce capacity in the world, so, if there is a war to be happening, they can quickly pulse all surveillant production line and shifting them to military usage. which means, Chinese number of ship is not just like what you are looking at now, and not to mention, even nowadays, china is producing 1 war ship every month, they are building 1 aircraft carrier, 2 missile battle ships, and 2 smaller defense ship, and a few different subs, and this is just for peaceful time. at same time they are still have world most capacity ship production line. if you think it how much ship and how fast they can produce ships during the war time? don't forget this is one of the reason why USA, won the WW2. same to their other weapons, don't just look how many missile they have now, cause china is different with any other countries USA had attacked in last 60 years. china is the world manufacture, this title is not only give china advantage to produce consumer good, it also give china advantage during war time to replace damaged weapons.
and not to mention, when the war started, the Chinese government can just call state emergency, so all the consumer resources will give the priority to military usage. in that case, the china will just turn into a giant weapon manufacture in a bout couple weeks. and how could American to compare to that? even you know you can win, but how much will USA willing to sacrifice? how much American people are willing to put up with? if they know they are going to lose their living standards , a lot of consumer products are going to rise up 100%or more, and a lot of their children are going to die during the war, and not to mention, this war is not about saving the USA ass, is only about to stop china to grow up or stop china to occupy the whole south china Sea to help other SEA countries like Vietnam,which was another communist country and fight with USA 40 years ago, Philippine who was against USA 20 years ago, die for protecting Taiwan? which is not even USA's business, or protecting Japan? which had war with USA in WW2, and some of jananese are still hate USA? I really doubt that all american are willing to sacrifice that much to do so. on the other side, majority of chinese are willing to fight for their nations survival, even it means to lose a lot of business or living standard, which communist are really good at how to organize this things during war time. dont forget china wasnt a free market 30 years ago, everything was controlled and distributed by peoples basic needs, and everyone was working for government for produce exactly what government needs, but, USA, has never got this style of life, and never had this kind of thought. the government has to pay for every weapon to use for the war, china is simply produce with all resources they have. so, who will last longer?
china is communist party running state, for last 70 years, Chinese had been reunited thought by the government, that china need to stay strong together or fall together, just like WW2, so, no one in china wanna this happens again. but, how many American are willing to fight this war? not mention USA is democracy country, such a big scale attack need to go through bot parliament, that will take a lot of argument, especially those companies who have business in china.
sum up, there is no need to worry about the war between china and USA, because either of these two countries can afford the consequences. unless there is really necessarily situation like China is attacking USA bases, or Australia, which has strong ally to usa,which I still doubt USA will joint the war straight away, just look at WW2, when the whole world was in the war, USA was just selling weapons to both sides to make money, the only reason USA attack is because they got hit by JAPAN....and before that, they were selling oil to Japan for long time.. money is what USA want, not losing life.
and will china stupid enough to attact USA land or base for none necessarily reason? I dont thinks so, china is happy to do whatever they are doing now, dealing with everyone, and making money too. unless taiwan is trying to be independent or somthing happen in south china sea, however, none of them will became a full scale war... so relax, guys, this is not going to happen anytime soon, even trump couldnt do it, because, he is not the dictator of USA, there are still parliament members to stop him to do something to insane.
so, a piece of advise, just try to work hard and enjoy your life. that is what really matters in the end.
Harry zhang very true. :-)
oh yes because China use to steal Russia's military secrets! hehehe! and China's manufactured goods are of poor standards it destroys and worn easily. Poor sub standards!
Harry zhang Lol. China is only "the world's manufacturer" of cheap, simple shit. Chinese engines of all sorts, especially jets, are terrible. All the world's biggest plane manufacturers outside of Airbus are American. The U.S. has some of the world's biggest car companies, as does Japan. Virtually no Chinese cars are ever sold outside mainland China (because they're crap). The existing military-industrial complex in the U.S. is extensive, reliable, and can compel many private companies to produce necessary materials in wartime. The U.S.'s industrial and financial capacity to produce materiel for a war absolutely dwarfs China's, and it would all be mobilized if a war broke out.
The weapons both countries have now, in peacetime, reflect a similar story. And while the U.S. lies thousands of miles away from mainland China, in complete safety, mobilizing it's vast arms production, China's industrial base gets blown to shit. China is boxed in by the U.S., Japan, and all other allies in the region. And nearly all of China's industrial capacity lies on the east coast, where it's incredibly vulnerable to the U.S.'s vast and superior fleet of aircraft and ships. China would be choked off from the rest of the world almost immediately if war broke out - the U.S. Navy is way too much for them. All of the international trade and money that normally come to China would dry up while the U.S. lies far away, relatively unaffected.
You are incredibly foolish if you think China's peacetime capacity to manufacture simple goods for the rest of the world at low labor cost will translate into the ability to outproduce the U.S. in wartime. These facts may change significantly in the coming decades, but that's how it is now. I know the Chinese are in a hurry to "grow up" into a mature industrial power, but they're just not there yet. Taking on the U.S. (even totally ignoring the vast gap in nuclear weapons) is suicidal for China for, at the very least, a decade.
Killernuma123 I agree with you! Chinese low , cheap and sub standards products are nothing but garbage! Most of their military gadgets and weapons are imitation from Russia. That's why the Russian government is getting irritated with China. And yet some people who are commenting on this video on the side of China does not know the whole truth. They just rely their biased views based on their own prospective and not on facts and statistics!
The US would destroy those ship yards so no more ships. It would take more than A month to train crew for each ship. The US would cut off ships delivering building material like steel. Yes the US could do it back in WWII because the enemy was NOT at our doorstep. Kind of hard to bomb if you are not in range. But all in all this is A stupid scenario.
6:43
In my mind I was going "you know damn well that aircraft ain't going nowhere near NK."😂
reboot of this topic is totally needed
agreed, especially with the HUGE upgrades to the chinese military since then.
Awesome video tell everyone !👽
Who else had this pop up in their recommendations during coid19?
Do Germany VS USA, UK, France, Poland, Russia, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway, Belarus, Ukraine, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia. It would definitely be a very close fight.
just like last time
The world today is different than the world in 1930s-1940s
Lol, the US owns the German military today
This wouldn't work with modern day Germany. It's army despite being strong could not handle such forces...
Louis Cheuk Germany would get shit on if it was the same scenario, even if it was just the US alone.
As usual, no nukes and no allies are totally unrealistic; but it makes that amusing ...
Could we get an updated video on this please?
Xi Jinping:
*takes notes furiously*
He can skip to 9:26 and catch the end.
>Nukes aren't being simulated
Daddy Xi: HMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Matheus mnz *HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM*
@@Shane-Singleton I think russia will help china when china be close to lose
@@user-zl7ji8ju6o It's very possible.
can you do a china and russia vs nato?
Money on china
+Romulus Numa Depends on where the war was fought, and the objective of the war.
Romulus Numa china lacks infrastructure. They can't win a war against the west
The US alone would be to much for Russia and China to handle.
Well NATO + allies
And Ru + Chi + allies
World War 3...
An hour long video.
The video to stop all the top 10 armies and US vs RU videos on youtube, the video to end all videos!
The one video that everyone is looking for on RUclips since it exist.
Yea imagine if they tried to come over stateside though
This video needs a 2021 update, including Space Forces of both countries. Great channel! Horrorshow!
AMERICA always Win In Movies and Videos
Free Speech except vietnam😭😭😭
U REPLY U LOSE *Thats so fucking incorrect, less then 1% of 2 Million is 58,000 (U.s Casualties)
you are right.
Free Speech lmao you obviously don’t understand politics,
The fuck do liberals have to do with genocidal capitalists???
Your a fuckwit mate and everyone of those American soldiers who died deserved to.
Free Speech No it was 1 mil Vietnamese plus 200k Chinese vs 600k Americans, and over 1 mil veitnamese. The other side
Actually had less casualties. Vietnam was far from a win.
Canada vs Denmark!
It would start with Canada invading Greenland. Canada would most likely win due to Canada having a larger army and is closer to Greenland than Denmark is. Canada would also prepare for a mainland invasion just in case, and maybe even the UK would blockade the North Sea to prevent Denmark from attacking Canada.
We would probably keep saying sorry and apologize to each villager as we invade
The UK would still support Canada
Skyifictionable Except, the UK is anti-EU
Well Denmark is a part of NATO and if were bringing allies into this...yea..... Still a fun sounding scenario.
The scenario may also involve a massive economic blockade by several Western countries. And even if China manages to achieve a military victory in the Pacific, it would probably end up totally isolated in economic terms from the West, that would probably destroy its economic growth.
that is, if everyone can live without made in China products
@@lobbyskids2 Damn John, you've just solved an issue that master economic advisors haven't been able to solve in decades! Quick somebody get this man a nobel peace prize!!!
And what would Russia do, he was talking about Japan giving full military support to Us, but never said anything about Russia.
@@shepherdlavellen3301 Yeah we could. Sacrifices can be made for a war as large as a war with china. I'm sure the economy and happiness would take a hit in the U.S, but it'd be manageable.
@@binbows2258 that is if you don't put human factor in the consideration, it's gonna be a mess when people start complaining and protesting on the streets again, but then again, human are easy to manipulate if there's a common enemy out there
In 2022, if you check the US Naval website, there are four large naval groups scattered around Guam, so they won’t be far from the front lines.
Geographically, the US is golden! They have a ocean on each side and no major Islands their enemies could station at like the situation with Japan and China. No wonder they haven't been invaded in a century.
There's also that "them leading the world since just after the first world war" thing, what with their obscene military spending (85% of world spending) and founding NATO + UN
Ryan Well, I don't really think it's possible to invade the superpower country that has the support of all of NATO, and has the most advanced military on Earth. I honestly feel sorry for the imbeciles who even think that it's possible nowadays (imbeciles being the likes of Kim Jong Un and ISIS).
Alexander Mercer agreed
Alexander Mercer so true America has a large advantage in defending. The attacking force would have D-Day. United States would also have a advantage with naval,air and ground force. It's almost impossible to invade the U.S. Unless you had many major powers attack Mexico for a southern attack, Canada for a northern attack and massive attacks in the east and west coasts. Which would have massive casualties.
That's if you manage to destroy the strongest navy on earth, not counting navies allied to the U.S. The invasion force would likely be sunk quickly.
do a indo-pak war I just finished reading books about it It looks like a great fight
Battlefield 4 Fan India obviously wins, they have better technology.
notzenub Guerrilla war
notzenub actually they'll both lose. Pakistan has nuclear weapons.
+RoyaltyFreeAbuser Pakistan is also surrounded by Neighbours like Iran and Afghanistan that would probably help India or let India use their bases, but Pakistan has got China and I'm sure India doesn't want war with CHINA after what happened in 1962.
Pakistan can't win though, India will cut of its water supply and eventually will win.
All Pakistan can do is support anti Indian terrorist groups like they did in all 4 wars.
xrx0R 9 They can take India down with them.
I can't believe I just discovered this channel. But that just means I have some delicious binge-watching to do!
Regarding U.S. vs. China: I suspect an update video might be in order after four years of evolution. I believe it is likely that the U.S. is far more prepared for this scenario now. I think our early reaction and mobilization would be as much as twice as fast. I believe India, Japan, South Korea, and Australia would demand to be part of a coalition. Russia would remain neutral, but would exploit any chance to cripple China's northwestern Achilles heel and take territory when they inevitably stagger. China would know this, be distracted, and would be forced to somewhat divide their forces.
I also believe we are far more technologically advanced over China than most realize. We only allow them to boast in order to promote overconfidence.
China only has one aircraft carrier, but it would need four of their current type to be a threat to even one of our eleven Nimitz class. The Chinese navy would be decimated in a month by the U.S. navy currently in theater. But we would double that navy in two to three weeks, and quadruple it in six.
India and Southeast Asia would permit us to use their bases, and we would be running bomber sorties from their territories in days. Indonesia would see the writing on the wall after a month, and allow us to use their territory as well.
China would of course invade india. There would be mass carnage. They would also strike Taiwan in the first week, and we would concentrate our naval and air power in Taiwan's defense. China would attempt amphibious invasion of Taiwan, but we would have boots on the ground there within a week, and it would fail with massive Chinese loss of navy and life. We would have air superiority in that region within weeks. By 2020, this was all strategically settled.
The Chinese populace would be paralyzed by confusion. They have been brainwashed by the CCP, but have no patriotic loyalty to it nor will to overthrow it. An army of 100 million could be quickly raised, but it would have nothing to do. Sent across any border, it would be sand in a raging river, quickly neutralized. It would willingly defend home territory, but we would never confront it. We are not savages. It would be a clay wall.
We would contain China within its borders and strategically cripple CCP military production, endeavoring to spare internal economical infrastructure in order to prevent death by the millions via starvation.
CCP government morale would begin to erode and be crushed within months when the apparatchiks realize they have been militarily castrated so easily. Xi Xinping would be overthrown by discontented bureaucrats and higher party members. They would negotiate a face-saving peace, and we would furnish it magnanimously, allowing them to retain their egos--but not their military infrastructure. It would seem to be the next North Korea, but the Chinese people would gradually awaken to the true soulless depravity of the CCP, overthrow it, and restore the thousand-year traditions of great Chinese culture. Twenty years later, they would be grateful for western restraint, and join the ranks of the free.
(Obviously this is a fantasy and will never happen. It's would be an Asian bloodbath with abortive, limited, regional nuclear conflict.
But fear of that eventuality is why the CCP would never initiate a direct attack on the U.S. navy. They will continue to probe and prod at their borders while they endeavor to subvert our political structure from within until we self destruct. They will only attack when we are in complete societal disarray, completely globally repudiated and militarily emasculated--which will take another twenty years.)
I think you're mostly right in your assessment and about the overall outcomes, but I think you've slightly overestimated how much more prepared the US is for this scenario and potentially greatly underestimated how much development China has made in the last 4 years. The last US administration was not exactly organized, efficient or focused, whilst the Chinese administration is all of those, and if anything the trade war has made them moreso.
They are still isolated, the US still has strong support and the gap is still pretty big, but if anything it has narrowed slightly in the last 4 years rather than widened.
It's difficult to give concrete examples to back this up, as there is little specific to show for it (or at least I'm not knowledgeable enough to point them out) but I strongly believe that by the time this all got going (lets say it actually takes another 2 years to come to real serious fighting) the things China has been working on in the last 4 years will start to reveal themselves, and their tremendous manpower, industrial infrastructure and political system means developments would continue to quicken as any war progressed. And at a pace the US could not realistically match, at least not for long.
I'm far from an expert and maybe I'm basing this on some mistaken assumptions but it is largely down to how quickly the Chinese have developed over the last 30 years, they've basically gone from a third world nation to the 2nd global superpower. And their development isn't slowing down. Their authoritarian regime may not be something the West could tolerate, you may see it as morally bankrupt, but it's indisputable that when combined with such a huge population, the regulatory and democratic hurdles that the US has to contend with mean that the gap is only going to close further, and if things don't change then eventually there will only be one winner. Or more likely in that scenario, no winners.
We'll probably know when the balance has shifted because that will be when China takes Taiwan, and in reality there is only so much pain the US would be willing to take to protect it. The Chinese government are smart enough to make that the entire battleground, and not attack the US in any way, purely taking a defensive stance until Taiwan is under their control, not antagonising anyone beyond that. But whether that is another 4 years away or more like 20, I really have no idea. Nobody could have predicted how far China has come 20 years ago, and with 1.5 billion people under control of a ruthless but intelligent and organized leadership, it's impossible to know what they'll do over the next few years.
@@Overpet 4 to 20 years is about the range I would use as well lol.
I really went off on a wild fit of fantasy in that post. But it was fun. I'm surprised anyone read it through--and shocked that you read it and didn't ridicule me.
The only place we might disagree: I think Trump was far more competent with foreign policy (both trade and military) than most people like like to credit. On the other hand, I believe four years of Biden/Harris may lower that possible twenty-year Taiwan margin to four.
But I'm not going to invalidate that aspect of your opinion. Trump is a weird anomaly, regardless.
Your post is so filled with brainwashing and bullshit I don't even know where to begin...
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Us would try not to hit nike apple and other americans factories in China ;p
The Joker isn't that a good thing? If China are manufacturing everything and not the us then china are making money, and have the ability to lower prices to a level no other country like the us can compete with, that's why china are doing so well
And Russia would just sit back and watch this????
Dessie Deratta No, they would go on the offensive against China.
It's unlikely that this will happen, Because once China is destroyed, the next target for the western world would be Russia.
Well China is the new big kid on the block, it'd actually surprise me if the US and Russia were smart enough to team up on China and suck all of the newfound wealth out.
Can you name me a singlr nation besides North Korea that will support China?
Dessie Deratta Russia doesnt like to take the side that will lose, they are like this since WWI, they join the side that will win, or just stay neutral
Please!! New Version! THIS is the MAIN Question Military wise!!!
I think it's time to update this video
I think not enough value was placed in B2, B52 and drone strikes against mainland Chinsse targets.
I believe China would have the upper hand in the earlier stages but eventually the US would secure air superiority and then proceed to implement a naval blockade the likes we have never seen. Naval blockades done a lot of damage to Germany's war efforts in both World Wars.
The naval blockade would hurt the US just as much as they are reliant on trade with China, but cutting China off from the world would hurt it even more. China is the world's largest net exporter, so while it would hurt a lot of other countries, a blockade would likely cripple the Chinese economy. Ultimately it would be the naval blockade and not military losses that would force China to the negotiating table.
A land invasion is out of the question. There is simply no way that the US would put boots on Chinese soil. They'd be overwhelmed.
The Staggy It's a war of attrition. How many B2 can one afford to build in a year vs how many fighters the other side can build. Sending B52 into China would be possible pretty much a suicide mission.
***** Three words: Made in China. The West, including the US, have made themselves dependent on Chinese labour. You take the largest next exporter out of global trade and you hurt a lot of economies.
***** False assumption. Actually, all the western companies use Chinese sub-contractors for their order, including Apple. That means the companies that are actually making the products are Chines owned. Certainly these western brands can search for other contractors, but they are unlikely to find another of similar size and capacity. The fact is that these Chinese sub-contractors are the ones expanding oversea, into Vietnam and elsewhere, not the western corps.
***** Did I not say both sides would be hurt by it? Actually read what I said.
Yes, the West could just move its labour anywhere else in the world, but that would come at a cost. Labour and production is outsourced to China for a reason. Relocating your work force takes time, negatively affects production in the interim and costs a lot of money.
China will feel it. The West will feel it. That is what would result in negotiations, not military losses.
Akin Khoo China relies on trade, that is an indisputable fact. Largest exporter and second largest consumer. You shut those ports down, you hurt that economy. You hurt everyone else with it, but a naval blockade will do more harm than a bombing campaign.
And I'll mention it again because people seem to lack basic comprehension skills; Economic factors, not military factors will bring an end to any war and it will hurt BOTH sides.
The US would block any oil entering China by sea and also try to take out pipelines inland.
In adition the reserve holdings of oil.
This would have crippled the chinese production and after a while become a problem for the military.
Yeah, they could likely just win the war through an naval blockade and UN embargoes.
wouldn't work china gets there oil from Russia
China on the other hand is the largest debt owner of the US, so figure it out.
China is one of the 5 permanent members of the UN as well, just sayin
just which one do you think is faster, china selling US debts or US trying to destroy china completely?
Please update to reflect current advances and increases in armament, esp. U.S rebuilt fleet.
The most likely scenario would basically be another Korean War on Korean soil. China and the US would avoid direct confrontation.
If china attacks taiwan or our allies the game is on
China can economicaly bring down the USA
SamTheSameSam the US can economically bring down China. It’s a lose-lose situation. I think the US would be able to pull through though. China wouldn’t.
Atomizer yes that is true tho and the whole world will suffer too... but maybe China would still survive since they can have 1.4 billion people buying their own product if it goes down on a full scale economical warfare, and if that happens, product in america like Apple, Walmart , automotive industries. But still China will suffer too but still survive but idk about america doe
Man if US and China gonna fight, have a war in some place quiet in China and not Korean soil.