Powder Coat & CNC Engraving a Plaque! Widget55
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2015
- We have a new way to engrave! The Tormach Drag Knife engraver (link below) let's us engrave 30x as fast! We ran this demo at 60IPM (versus our usual 2IPM with a ball end mill!)
What's the catch? The drag knife leaves a burr. But let's use the SuperFly to clean that burr off by machining a few thou over top the part! Boom!
We were incredibly happy with how this part turned out. It's a great example of how much you can do in a home shop - both CNC machining and powder coating to make a great product! Fusion360 handles the CAD and CAM and we used the website fiverr.com to have the logo converted to a DXF file for only $11!
Powder Coat Gun: amzn.to/2je6YyZ
Tormach Drag Knife Engraver: bit.ly/1NwKVQR
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One of the things I like about all your videos John is that you just jump in with both feet and take us with you. You make mistakes and say something. If you don't know something while you are doing an operation, you say something. Your not perfect and will admit it. We all see and learn from your mistakes and it is not a big deal to you. That is what I like to see.
I downloaded Fusion360 the other day and didn't watch the tutorial, I just jumped in and am slowly figuring it out. If I mess up, big deal, learn from it.
I also like the "what if" ideas you have. If it works, great, if it doesn't, oh well. But you share it and we all get something from it. Nothing is by the book, throw it out there and run with it.
This makes your videos real and I like that.
Thanks!
Just start with Fusion 360 a few days ago so THANK YOU for slowing down. I been watching your vids for a while and just in this video alone I learned so much. Maybe you can also throw in a few tips here and there for beginner because I had no idea how to pan around lol.
This channel is so fantastic, I'm really glad I found your videos!
Much better on the pacing, John. I didn't want to complain about a gift horse before but this was MUCH better in terms of dropping the occasional tip/trick without going in-depth on every step. Way to hit a happy medium!
As usual, this video is exactly what I was looking for, and I even picked up a few pointers that I WAS NOT looking for! Thanks again John!
Great result John. I'd never really thought about it before, but now I see the difference I like the way you're explaining each step as you're doing it in F360. I'd completely forgotten about the left-right, right-left highlighting difference until you mentioned it. I am also a big fan of powder coating. Looking forward to the video on the tapping arm.
I love your enthusiasm..! I watch every video on CNC that I can find. I am a "gear head".....long life mechanical guy who is in the process of conceiving a CNC machine. I am an Industrial Mechanical and have been around maintenance and automation all my life. I have become fascinated with CNC programming and the electrical side of CNC. It is going to be my first retirement project. I am confident in my ability to design a rigid and true machine. The automation is where I am going to be challenged. Keep up the great videos.....I will be checking in and hopefully using you as a resource. Cheers..!
Very cool video.. The combo of both machine work and computer software explanation was great... Thank you for you videos..
Watching this in 2019, had no idea about the left to right and right to left selection behavior. Thanks John!
Great Video. As usual I have learned a lot. Thanks for slowing down for the Fusion 360 part - much appreciated.
As always thanks for sharing, for your enthusiasm and the quality of your video and your job.
Greeting from france
John, like your videos! I am going to enter the CNC field ( home business, craft, low cost 3018) soon and have enjoyed your detailed explanations and ideas. Yes you do tend to get wound up some times especially for us southern folk (lol)
Very cool. I was looking for a better material than aluminum sheet and rattle-can paint. This convinced me to try powder coating the aluminum myself before engraving.
I'm a noob to cad, 360, etc. I'm not a machinist by any imagination but I like the Tormach 770 & 440. I just downloaded 360 so I'm one of those who would appreciate the slower tutorials.
Going to save up money for a 440 or 770, till then I will play with 360 & watch your videos. Thanks a lot and keep up the good work.
super job John,, thank you for sharing.
that turned out beautifully! Can't go wrong with silver on black
Another great lesson. Thanks John. CJ
Great video John I've had that Tragg engraver for over a year and haven't used it yet. Now I'm going to try it out on a project thanks for this video
Patrick
Will do thanks again john
As always great video! Very informative, fly by the seat kinda stuff (pucker factor lol). Also appreciate you taking the time to link goodies in the description. Keep up the good work :)
Greetings from NZ! Building a Nema23 based CNChina. Loving your videos. Instantly subbed. Thank you!
Awesome job. I'm really digging the Tormach and the Fusion 360 stuff. Home run.
I been using flex arm for years I think it is the best kept secret for saving time in a job shop. I have been there plant and quoted some of the details for the flex arm
Great video as usual. I use thin brass shim stock these days instead of paper. It gives me much more "feel" and it has a consistent thickness.Bill Box
Nice! Speaking of crashing brand new tools... I just bought a brand new Haimer ($425 bucks) and the very first time I put it in my mill, I wasn't thinking and hit "go to zero". The vise crashed into the Haimer. I'm very new to CNC but no excuses: I am a dumbass. Luckily my feed rate was very low and I hit the e-stop before it was destroyed. There's a nice battle scar in the housing but thankfully it is still totally accurate. Learning to CNC has been one of my most humbling experiences.
GO John !!!looks good
That looks awesome. nice tool.
nice! You came through on the drag engraver :)
this is awesome. another great video.
Thanks for slowing it down John.
Slick trick John.
This would look fantastic with a powder coated plate of brass, too.
Great work! I second the motion to "Slow down"!
Much better, sir!
Sounds awesome wish I could have made it. I would love to hear what you learned from Tom about 4140!
outstanding video. you've definitely inspired me!! (subbed instantly)
John, you should think for Xmas making a looping Flex-Arm tapping video that is just 20 minutes of looping tapping that we can put on the TV ala the old "Yule Log" video. I could watch you tap holes all day long with that thing. Also, thanks for the earlier power coat vid you did.. after seeing how easy it was I bought a rig myself and I powder coat EVERYTHING now.
MasterCam has raster to vector built in and it’s super easy and simple!
As always, love the videos and the sharing of knowledge. Your disposition is refreshing too. However I am confused by the change.
In the first of the video, you make a statement about having to step outside your comfort zone. Then you state your intent. Create the correct size stock. Powder coat it. All in house.
Then you pay somebody to clean up the image prior! Wt(f)? 11 bucks is an insignificant amount in the long run or it could be a much better opportunity to profit.
I remember taking a BobCad V23 training class many years ago (my very first foray into CAD or CAM, I had a working machine I had built but had no idea how to make it move!). Anyway the instructor showed us how to take black and white images and manipulate them to engrave different depths in an opaquish material (Corian) so when backlit it made a perfect copy of the original picture. Sorry for being so long winded but it is most likely as simple as selecting the entire font and making 1 change.
It does look nice John. Really nice. :]
i love it ... thanks great lesson ...
Than ks for the gr8 Video brother but your powdercoat gun link got lost somewhere in Eastwood Hatville lol happy holidays to you and your's
Thats Awesome!!!!!
This a is great video, really enjoyed, do you also have one that shows how to infill the engrave with say crux hatching, I've tried parallel but keep getting lead-in and readout tool paths on surface rather than the tool retracting to a safe height in-between transitions?
I know I am probably the wrong guy to comment on slowing down with fusion, but its a video, you can always go back and watch it again and again.
I have been on the fence about the drag engraver, but after this I think I will give it a try, looked pretty good for what it is and what it costs. Thanks!
I could almost feel the brakes being applied as you fought to slow down this time...thank you for the effort! Personally it's not so much the speed as the skipping over the 'why'. I suspect that lots of folks have drafting or traditional CAD experience with things like AutoCAD or TurboCAD, but parametric modeling is different. I've been playing with Cubify to learn about it, and have found the thought processes to be very different. I think it's a big improvement, but it is different. When you get into the CAM parts you explain some, but when you are concentrating on getting it done, sometimes that slips. I still learn, but sometimes it rakes a few videos to get all the puzzle pieces....which is ok, I like the videos!
Speaking of Tom Lipton, I was reading his book when you did your review of it, and it was you mentioning that he had a RUclips channel that led me to it, and then Adam's, the Kieths, and the whole crowd...thank you for that!
-- Mike
+NYC CNC Yep, all your fault! ;-) Now I've got a South Bend 9" lathe taking up space in my utility room, and I'm trying to find enough room for a small mill. I figure if you could do it in a NYC apartment, I should be able to manage it somehow.
-- Mike
It's not the speed of the video per se. It's that many videos are made assuming the audience already knows how to use 360. The video author often uses shortcuts or is doing things (right click, selecting x) without saying what they're doing. I found one video that's doing exactly what I'm trying to do (simple, single line engraving), but he's skipping steps when he does it. I've watched the video at 1/4 speed, but still can't figure out how to do it. There are a LOT of detailed CAM settings and software specs that you guys know, but take for granted. I'm pretty computer literate and have used some graphic software, but I'm lost trying to figure this out. I'm pretty close to returning my CNC machine and giving up.
John nice part turned out good. Confirming that the engraving tool is not rotating? Good seeing you at the Bash, I think you were the first contributor I met that day.
H-haha - "a specific random number
". Love it!
became a sub just recently and I really enjoy your approach to different challenges. I noticed you are using get it to check your g-code just before running it. Are you using Linux for your cnc controller?
wow this engraving is awesome!! greetings from germany
In Sachsen Dresden :) ich bin gerade in einer Umschulung zum Programmierer für CNC die Videos sind sehr inspierierend was man alles so machen kann
wie kommt es das du ein wenig Deutsch kannst? is ja eher ungewöhnlich
Glad to hear you are slowing down, it would be great if you went even slower than this one. I like to see what is being click on.
Some folks whip the cursor all over the place and I can't tell exactly what is being done, get dizzy trying to watch it going in circles.
Thank You for all your great videos, I do get a lot from them. Look forward to getting more!
Man I don't know I would have had the guts to do that fly wheel after it lol
Great video! The link function is new to Fusion 360. Because you inserted the script file from another file it creates a reference. If you change the referenced file there would be a notice to update the file in this design. That's why you couldn't delete the unwanted text without breaking the link (or reference) back to the original.
+NYC CNC Correct. But that would also affect any other files that are using that file as reference - not really a problem in the case of this project.
Great, useful information
NYC CNC Yes thank you for your work and useful videos. Anyone who is learning and interested in machining will find your channel useful.
Thanks ; You got more informations about CNC machine my dear .
Vien Ha
Very nice
Hi John
Really liked the video and I have to agree with slowing down a bit with Fusion 360 I have just started using it because of seeing you use it on your channel and how excited you get when using it. I think that there will be allot more of us newbies because we watch you using it so please be patient. I expect there will be many like myself that have wanted to do some CAD but could not justify spending a ton of money.
Fusion 360 has given us the opportunity to have a crack at it and hats off to the creators looking forward to using it more and more.
I do have one question if you dimension a part and want to see all the dimensions and maybe print a copy I seem to loose everything may be you could do a video on how to do that at some point.
Keep them coming
Dave
So can this cut 0.63 gauge aluminum sheets completely and engrave designs on it? Trying to understand what I need. Thanks for the video
Just FYI - The amazon linkfor the powdercoat gun on the notes doesn't work
your videos are cool.
How long do diamond drag bits last and is there a good one to get? 90 degree or 120 degree?
Inkscape (free software) will take a bitmap image and convert it to a vector very easily - especially a high contrast image like that.
I use it lots for making stylised pictures from photos for inclusion in to presentations and documents.
NYC CNC I'm fairly sure that it can handle reasonably small images but I can't check it out till next week as I'm States side at the moment with the family. 😊
Hi, are diamond spring engraving bits sold on aliexpress or bangood sites?
You should collaborate with Precious plastics!
Amazing!!! That's great. I like that. MONEYMAKER. thanks for sharing.
how deep dose the engraving end up
I've used BobCAD to do the exact same thing with their artwork import tool. it worked good, but the vector tool in Enroute CAD is superior and much quicker. it's the very first thing I ran on my mill after completing my CNC conversion. video is on Instagram under Regalmetalworks. love the videos and your enthusiasm! Keep it up!
F-Engrave
I had a fiverr guy make me the vector file, is is possible to change the, or set, the size of the logo, once I get it into 360? I need to "press pull" the logo to fit on a 2x3in al block.
Thanks for the fantastic vids!
What is the diameter of the cut? ~0.2mm, ~0.1mm? Might purchase the tool but I need something that will engrave with a fair degree of detail.
There is heating problem with Easy driver v4.4 ..
can u help me ..?
i have connected : 1 arduino uno , 2 nema 17 , 2 Easydriver v4.4 and 9 v power ,
Easy drive get heated in 1 min
tell me how to solve heating problem .
Brilliant video as always John. Re converting a raster into a vector image, take a look at Inkscape (inkscape.org). It's a free vector drawing/illustration program and has a feature that allows you to convert a raster image into a vector image. I use it for converting jpgs, gifs etc into vectors so I can bring them into Sheetcam or Fusion 360.
I'm wondering though, would this engraver work for the steel you use for your targets as well? And thank you for more in-depth F360, I'm getting most of my knowledge from this channel (the rest from Google) and since I'm mostly new to it, slower is better :-)
Would love to see a follow up on that =)
Heres a tip for you, when you do tutorials it's helpfull to use a program that display keystrokes. That way your viewers can see what you do in applications. Try QiPress or some other app, it would be really helpfull for us viewers, thanks for your videos btw.
speaking of all the various versions of 4140...... can you run a few vids on all the various materials... maybe collaborate with The Ox, The Bom, Kilroy and RRichard :)
It would be nice to have a one stop lookup chart perhaps, of all the common steels/alloys and best used for....
It gets a little confusing when people rattle off steel numbers etc, but as a total newbie amateur, figuring out what to use for certain tasks can take longer than the task itself :)
Cheers and keep up the good work.
+NYC CNC Bonus points if its globally oriented, so people around the world don't need to convert common US names for various materials to their own regional common names :)
Hey John, just about my time to get my own mill for plastics. I know plastics don't intrest you, but I just wanted to know where you get your bits and mills from and what brand.
+NYC CNC Thanks!
Hey I may have some work for you to do how do I contact you?
I need to stop watching these videos before I sell some body parts n buy a CNC mill.
Good little laugh there... :-)
I still love Autocad and Inventor. I do use them as student though, so thats the main difference! Its a lot lot lot cheaper.
Explode command. Keyboard shortcuts. OSnap, GSnap... All the quick tricks that made life so much easier than I have felt in fusion. Fusion is great, and i love the online integration. But damn, if it isnt hard to break habits... ;-)
+Cody Smallwood I agree, no keyboard shortcuts B L O W S. Not sure what they where thinking with that one, I would rather press two keys then have to click the mouse 8 times.
+NYC CNC its meant to be coming but it`s going to be key plus something else
Curiosity question. After you do the initial powder coating, baking and engraving, would it work to use powder coat in a different color just to do the part that was newly exposed by the engraving?
Nice end result.
I've seen similar tricks done with wood, but the lines were deeper. I've done it myself for signs using a V bit. After cutting the letters I sprayed the whole thing, then sanded it off the surface, leaving the letters painted.
I've also seen it done differently with powder coat using a laser cutter. The object was laser engraved, then was powder coated and baked, then covered with powder of a different color. Then, rather than baking it, the powder was cooked with the laser just where the letters were, and the rest of the powder blown/washed off. That left the engraved lines filled with the second color. Looked great!
-- Mike
+BigMjolnir you can do the same with wide green painters tape but the surface needs to be clean and smooth for it to work well, pretty much finished surfaces
+NYC CNC Yep, similar idea. The laser and powdercoat trick lets you do pretty fine detail, and you don't *have* to have it engraved first, though you can. All good methods to keep in mind.
-- Mike
Have a project that I want to build. I Don't love this stuff like you. You made mention if your supported on patreon you would help with problems. Would you entertain being hired to design some equipment to automate a process for a business I own?
thats sweet
from Michigan
Hi John,
The engraving turned out great! I was wondering, could you see any difference in the quality before and after the diamond crashed? Being able to do computer guided engraving of any kind is pretty cool. Everyone likes to have things customized (plus for normal things like serial numbers). Thanks for the video!
-mike
Is that a mk5 tdi I see in your profile pic and John its diamond synthetic most likely and it's going to be a lot harder than what you ran it into it probably is fine the engraving came out amazing good job !
+iCloud Henshaw That's a good eye you have! Actually its a 2.5L gas engine MK5.
+NYC CNC Volkswagen talk 😉 mk5 golf is basically mark 5 and tdi for turbo charged direct injection and would you ever consider milling inconel ? +Goptools mk5 tdi myself with a 1.9 to 2.0 engine swap the old one dropped a piston through the block aha take it your in America or Canada as we didn't get the 2.5 petrol across the pond I don't think
+iCloud Henshaw Yes, I am in the good old U.S. of A. !
Not so good old uk :/ do you get good gas ( Petrol ! ) mileage out of it can't imagine that good at 2.5L ? I got 93mpg on my holiday drove and 900 miles to a tank
You're so happy, Lol.
Vector Magic is a program to vectorize that is cheap and fully automatic in most scans. Check it out
Man, it sucks you couldn't get the 2linc engraver to work. The burr was one thing I could NOT have at all after engraving and I needed to go faster than a BN EM running 10IPM. Mind emailing me what feeds and speeds you tried along with how fast the tormach can rapid?
+NYC CNC bigger machine????
+NYC CNC any idea what you're looking to get? I'm in love with the hurco machines I work with daily. they run posted code well and then there's parts that really are faster just programming conversationally. and we're not even running winmax.
"Click in the porner" XD
***** The "porner corner", favorite place of the internet... #Kappa
Yeah, I was heavily amused.
if anyone's worried about slow videos, just use youtube shortcuts!
shift + > = speed up video
shift + < = slow down video
J = skip left
K = pause
L = skip right
F = full screen
where do you buy your aluminum from?
thank you sir!
Fusion 360 can't load bitmaps? Hum....
Very nice, whatever it says lol!
Like your videos :) Just a little detail: this is just a drag engraver, not a drag knife engraver ;-)
Is it just me or are you mic humming like crazy?
+NYC CNC yeah i have a background noise/distortion sound. I isolated it from your bid clip. after some testing. gets annoying after a while.
+NYC CNC haha nwm
G00 Z3.0; M00; G00 Z.050; G01 Z-.005 F.020; engrave; ....program stops 3.0" above part. quick check with 1-2-3 block and you can instantly tell if you have the right tool. (obviously if all your tools are roughly within 3 inch's of tool heights.) no single block...no dry run....no finger on the e stop. no distance to go screen... quick and easy :)
Awesome, I appreciate it bud, its making me feel pretty stupid, haha.
I really don't understand your comparaison with a ball nose at 2 IPM!!??
I do that maybee at 60 IPM ith 1/8 ball nose or at 100IPM with a 30 degré v-bit 1/4
Fred
+elpatenteu Sorry*
you can send me your files I will do for $5
pro tip : when selecting items when you do a right to left or a left to right notice the marquee box, the boundry edge around the box, it changes depending on function, dashed is select all, solid line is only select items fully encased by selection box. Boom! And bobs yer uncle! :D www.dbclunie.com
naw I just shared the video from Derek The Farmer, he's a whole other youtube sensation! Keep up the great video always love watching your stuff, so beautiful watching metal crafted via machining.
Id recommend you check out vectordoctor.com/
He is based in the US and no dearer than fiver for most things
STOP paying someone to make dxf files. It is very easy and quick. There are many different software options to auto trace graphic files (raster to vector). My favorite is simply Corel Trace which is part of Corel Draw. It takes literally about 1 minute to generate a dxf. I believe there are some freeware/shareware programs out there too.
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