The Alex Smith "Deep Ball" Myth
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- Many people believe in the myth of Alex Smith being unable to throw the deep ball. They say he can't throw the ball more than 20 yards down the field. In today's day and age where people have become obsessed with high powered offenses, big plays, and fantasy football statistics, quarterbacks like Alex Smith are overlooked. When you have a good running game and a solid defense (aka TEAM football), throwing the ball down field all game isn't necessary. Joe Montana wasn't a big time deep ball thrower yet some consider him to be the greatest QB of all time. Why? Because fantasy football wasn't around in the 1980's. Alex Smith knows how to not lose football games by making the correct reads, getting his playmakers the ball, and controlling the game... but if his team needs him to start slinging the ball late in the 4th quarter, he is more than capable of doing that. Chiefs fans have learned what Smith can do when he's forced to throw down field after their defense got shredded by Peyton Manning and Phillip Rivers.
Alex Smith can throw deep when he has to, or when he chooses. This video proves it. His former offensive coordinator Norv Turner once said "Alex Smith throws the best deep ball I have ever coached." Critics, doubters, and even 49ers fans and Chiefs fans who doubt Smith's ability to throw down field need to realize that Smith plays a style of quarterbacking that won Montana 4 super bowls in the 1980's before fantasy football and Madden video games were invented.... and THAT style wins games.
Don't be worried, Chiefs fans. When the playoffs come, you have a QB who can take shots down field if you're trailing in the second half. Just play some defense and Smith will win you games.
Tony Reyes, the song is Ditty by Paperboy.
Captain Checkdown ! what is this, lol. But honestly I like him as a qb and thanks for posting this to help dispel the myth.
Alex Smith has been sadly under rated and I'm glad he got a fresh start, even though as a niner fan, I miss him terribly. No problem, I root for him as a Chiefs player. I still root for 9er's but when we play Chief's my heart is torn, I would so love to see the Chief take the Superbowl, not only because it's a come from behind team, but because I really want to see Alex get his ring!
bust
I thought I was the only person that felt that way.....I ruded for the chiefs that day....fuck harbaugh and kaepernicle!
mikedizzle lol
Agree with Susan! They are on track knocking out the seahawks yesterday.
Mahomes will take the Chiefs to a SB
1.00 look at that guy in the middle of the field had loads of room
Wonder if they're going to show this on the jumbotron when he goes back to San Fransisco in a couple of weeks.
Nice video. You know what throw you should try to add? The one in Seattle in 2011, to Crabtree, that set up the game-winning field goal. The last time the Niners won there.
Pressure right in his face on that one, and like three defenders around Crabtree. Couldn't even step into the throw. It was all arm.
Thanks for the compilation!
i would love to see him back on the niners...but he looks better in a chiefs uniform
What the name of the first song its funky
Song?
Smith and Davis ! Holy Fuck!
***** So fucking true, Kaep doesn't have the arm that Smith does and he's a coward when it comes to running. The last game against the Seahawks however, he seemed more comfortable but we lost Gore and Hyde and others and that's what complicated the scheme in a very fucked up way.
***** maybe he meant touch lol
Now it's smith and kelce
+ThinBlueLine ArmyDoc Vernon is so fast, no wonder he got so deep!
Nice video, thanks. Go Chiefs 2015!
My favorite qb of all time why did he have to be transford to chiefs
I miss those Alex and Vernon connections.
That was a great quarterback-tight end combination. It was especially effective with Frank Gore in the mix.
Preston Thompson Definitely! The three of them especially went through all of that, it would've been awesome to see them win a championship together as Niners.
Good video, I think Alex Smith is an underrated quarterback and can make deep passes, yes, he doesn't have the Joe Flacco arm but he can still make throws downfield when he NEEDS TO, problem is they have him throw short passes it works for them, he makes smart decisions, and doesn't make stupid throws, can't hate on him for that. Also other than Dwayne Bowe & Kelce their receivers don't strike any fear.
Montana was viewed the same way as Smith until he won those SBs. Some teams like the Broncos and Packers and Pats have lacked a consistant run game so they need to throw the ball 40 or more times a game to win. Which equals padded stats. Meanwhile these teams like the Chiefs, and Seahawks, only throw the ball 40 times because they are playing catch up. If wrs get quick seperation Smith would lob it up all day. However thats hard to do without speed. The chiefs have swithed this offseason to have 90% speed on the outside so we shall see
We would of won that Super Bowl if Al was there
cant hate on alex smith... respect...
Can you make a Alex smith chiefs highlight video for the 2013-2014 season including the colts playoff game
He did that for two years at Utah. Dude was a blast to watch.
Should send this to the Walterfootball.com guy.
He's a good qb give him a break people and what's the name of the song???
If Nolan wasn't an idiot and made him play with a shoulder injury, Alex would still be making these throws no problem. Out of college, Alex had better accuracy and arm strength than Aaron Rodgers. Would you believe that ten years later into their careers? Definitely not but being drafted into the worst team the NFL has ever seen takes a toll on the player. It's crazy how Alex is still around after getting his shit kicked season after season.
Would have been real interesting to see Rodgers (who is a deserved future HOFer imo) career progression if he doesn't get to sit behind Farve
He is definitely on his way to Canton but I don't think he has earned his ticket just yet. But indeed, he was drafted into the 8th best team in the league and got to sit behind Favre for two seasons. With the luxury he had, he better be a Hall of Famer, honestly. He's been struggling as of late though, I wonder what's going on with him.
BajaDeezNutz imagine being this brain dead
I forgot Alex Smith had Owens to throw to.
That wasn't Owen, it was Antonio Bryant.
+Billy Macias and Antonio Bryrant was a scrub
Holy crap, that was actually pretty impressive. Glad the Chiefs got him. Hopefully we get some more weapons around him so we can see more of this!
Shut up
not one play wearing a chiefs jersey though. im expecting that to change this year
Well this video was posted before he became a chief I'm pretty sure
When you have the Tight End as The Fastest Player, You Really hardly ever Throw it Deep
the reason 49ers lost in the SB is because they didn't have Alex Smith
+Raymond Dupuis what u mean lol.
+El Chapo He means the 49ers lost bc they didn't have Alex Smith at QB
they had him though, they just decided to play kaep because he had a few wins... if they play smith, they get their 6th
Raymond Dupuis fuck kaep, but no. That game was lost on our d.
Raymond Dupuis reason 49ers lost is because they had less points. Go Ravens
And I disagree that it works well for them. There have been a lot of games (first Denver game comes to mind) where the Chiefs controlled the entire game, and were beat by their inability to score. They have to open up the pass game a bit more. The defense just play right on the line and the chiefs still check it down and run. It is infuriating.
***** McGlynn gives me nightmares. Fisher spends half of his time helping him out as the inside pressure is a priority at that point. It's not at all shocking the moment the OL and WR's aren't awful there is an occasional pass downfield from Alex.
I think that it is likely that this myth is based on the confusion between the quarterback's accuracy and the strength of his arm. Any NFL quarterback can throw a 40 yard pass. Frankly, a high school quarterback can throw a 40 yard pass. It's not as simple as the distance. It's the accuracy and timing of the throw. If your offense is getting five yards at a time, run or pass, your offense will score before they even see a third down. Granted, Alex Smith isn't necessarily known for improvisation plays but he's very efficient and he can run any offense. If you're a coach and you can't figure out which quarterback is right for your system, you can always do the safe thing and add Alex Smith.
I miss that Alex Smith-Ted Ginn Combo. Was really fun to watch.
That Alex smith to Vernon Davis was deadly though
WOW!! Step your Shit up #7. Let's Go 49ERS!! #iBleedRed&Gold
All I got to say is the 9ers kept him as a starter for How many Years? He made the Catch III come true and even So wasn't wen allowed to play in the SB even though he was a part of that Team Getting there! Yeah he's Elite and over turned KC around and the D failed in that playoff game. He's Among some of the Best QB's. Critics will say anything to get ratings and also why isn't TeBow playing he sure is way better than any other back ups even starters. It's a money game. Plus if Alex Smith wasn't that Good or made a difference in the game people wouldn't talk about him. Why??? Cuz he's a QB to be fearful Off!!!
all i gotta say is we had the worst offensive line for years and changed oc's like underwear for years and he had no wr's
There is absolutely nothing wrong with Alex's play style. (This is coming from a Chiefs fan,) he makes smart decisions, throws it short to wear the defense out and take time off the clock. Clearly he can throw deep when he needs/wants to. In KC, Avery is about our only good vertical threat but coach Reid doesn't call many vertical routes, then again, he doesn't use good plays half the time. We have Dwayne Bowe who is a big strong receiver who is meant to catch slant patterns, curl routes, etc. But Reid usually doesn't have Bowe doing that. The sad thing is, is that we don't have a line in KC or any good receiver besides Travis Kelce to throw to. Alex has no time to throw the ball anyways so he could have, Megatron, Dez Bryant, AJ Green, and Josh Gordon and he still couldn't get the ball out because the offensive line sucks.. I really like Alex's play style and he has a great attitude toward things. He doesn't beat you by having a cannon for an arm. He beats you by making smarter decisions and tiring out your defense. I hope Alex finishes his career out strong as I believe he has about 4 or so good years left, by then I hope he has a line because he does amazing when he has 3-4 seconds to actually throw a ball.
Well something has to give. The defense just stacks the box every play, and the Chiefs either run despite, or throw a check down despite. They have to open up a vertical game, because if I have to watch them try to pound it at a stacked box too many more times I'll go nuts.
Yup then kaep fuked everything up that smith built!
Of course he can chuck the ball downfield; no one would make it to the NFL as a QB if they couldn't, let alone as a starter on a competitive team with a smart coach. But anyone can see his velocity is lacking, and that's what makes it harder for him to complete passes more than 15 yards downfield on a consistent basis against NFL DB's and linebackers; they're just too quick & instinctive, and if that ball's not zipped in there, they're gonna make a play on it more often than not. I like Alex Smith, a team like the Chiefs can definitely win with him. But there's no sense in denying that taking shots downfield is something that has to be done wisely & sparingly with him.
All these throws were before his shoulder surgeries, I think the surgeries really limited his throwing abilities.
Theunratedr2 No they aren't.
DTrig 80% of them are
Theunratedr2 He had his shoulder surgery in the 2008 season. 80% of these throws were after that 08 season because they changed uniforms after 2008
Theunratedr2 Actually, you and the guy agreeing with you are pretty much dead wrong. He hurt his shoulder in 2007 and got the first surgery. He had to have a follow-up before 2008.
Davis and Battle were the only two receivers in that highlight video that were on the 49ers in 2006 and the first three games of 2007 (before the injury). Crabtree & Ginn were later, as were some of the others.
Also, any catch with a white-stripe on the pants leg was 2009 or later. Which rules out most of the Davis catches being in 2006/2007.
Song is Paperboy - Ditty
Looks so much better in a Chiefs uniform
right
UJustGotFlamed he most definitely does not look better in an ugly ass chiefs uniform
@@blocpartyrocker salty oakland fan
Loving the song and video!
Serviceable quarterback - game manager though.
Nah. He's better than a game manager. He's not an elite QB or anything, but he's better than a game manager.
Kyle Wilson Defense.
Nothing against Wilson, dude has it easy.
I especially loved how he "game managed" his way to 430 yards of total offense on the road in the playoffs without Jamaal Charles for the entire game, then Charles replacement, a starting O-lineman, Donnie Avery and D. Bowe playing the second half on a broken foot. I also like he's game managed his way to the highest QB rating in NFL playoff histor. Jesus...is there any chance you can come up with something both more original...and relevant?
***** well i know of a team that has "great defense" and does not have a game manager and look what happen there. Game Manager + Defense = Superbowl Champs. Not Game Manager + Great Defense = Loss in NFC...I aint no genius but its quite clear which one is better.
James Hicks Yeah I'm a diehard 49ers fan. I knew smith was doomed when harbaugh came in. The minute a team gets a new coach they immediately start releasing guys and bringing in there own players. The trade of alex smith was the dumbest move the 49ers have made as of late. I'd trade Kaepernick in a minute to get smith back. That guys is nothing more than an over glorified runner. If smith is just a game manager I'd take that all day. He put up relatively the same numbers as wilson and kaepernick only his may have been slightly better than the two. He also had over 300yds of total offense in the playoff game against the saints. The chiefs will be alright you guys got a legit quarterback. I just think this kaepernick thing may prove to be our undoing.
Ahh ... nice to remember when our quarterback threw the ball, before we put three runningbacks on the field, and made Vernon a blocker. The good old days.
And if its thrown deep by Alex Smith its either perfect, or overthrown, to make sure no more gets it except then receiver.
EXACTLY - unlike Cutler Romo etc - he does not, will not refuses to be risky with the ball, unless - they are behind and pressing. Look at his record over the past few years, UMMMMMMMMM, i can name 5 qb's Id rather have, but not much more - #Chiefskingdom
I THINK HE CAN, JUST DOESNT HAVE ENOUGH CONFIDENCE IN HIMSELF, OR MAYBE HIS RECIEVERS....LOVE ALEX SMITH HE BROUGHT US BACK FROM HELL...
He looks better now with a Chiefs jersey on!
So true
But what about Mahomes! He is a beast!
What this proves is that ALEX SMITH can bomb that ball down field when the opportunity presents its self and not force it like some quarter backs do
I love this video!
Sorry for turnin my back on you alex!!!! You were always better than Kaep!!!!!!!!! FIGHT ONNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!
One Hell of an arm!
Remember his rookie Season. He use to hit Antonio Bryant on long balls like crazy. Some of them got called back the team was so bad. But Mike I would rather look in the mirror at my suit Nolan said he wasn't one of his players. Things stalled out from there. Alex will never be an elite passer. But nobody knows except his team mates how he reads the defense and changes the passes to run's etc.
The recurring theme here is that Smith has a pocket to step up into. That was very rare this past season. Give a QB some room and they can work magic.
Smith and maclin coming soon
Buffalo has a very good defense, and the Chiefs put up 30 points on those guys, and Smith was nailing long balls on them ALL GAME LONG! Maclin, Kelce, and Chanderick was doing a lot of damage.
I hope so man, and everything.
LETS GO ALEX PROVE EVERYONE WRONG AND WIN A SUPERBOWL
Smith should have started in SB ,
I'm a Niners fans, and I think Smith has the skills to be a great QB, we just didn't have the best coaches, and OC, till the Harbaugh era, as for the SB vs the Ravens, we could've used Smith on a few plays, and go from there. "Go with the hot hand"
In my mind harbaugh will always have an astris next to his name for putting kap in for Alex
Already sold on his arm. We just have to win some playoff games now. Chiefs!!!
Watching the Chiefs play the Lions in London, and searched to see if Smith can actually throw because all he's doing is check down throws and screens.
+itsddashrock Did the Chiefs win? Exactly...
+Matt B When the playoffs come we'll see if the Chiefs can win.
+itsddashrock they did lol
Against a bad Houston team. The TRUE test is in NE.
+itsddashrock lol they aint that bad they made it to the playoffs 😂
Who came up with this myth?
Media that wants to portray him as a bust to defend benching him for Kaepernick.
Great video bro. Thnx Alex Smith for 2011. Let's Go 49ERS!! #OurTimeWillCome
CHIEFS!!!!
lol all the Alex Smith haters are kaepernick lovers.. I've always loved Alex Smith BTW because of his smart decisions and knowing how to manage a game. why do you want a skillful qb if he can't play the game properly
As I sit here and listen to the kaepernick drama, I bet the niners regret getting rid of Alex smith.
He doesn't have a "weak" arm. But it takes an elite arm to throw with velocity, over and over in a game. Obviously this video shows him throwing long balls, but that's typically when he winds up and hurls it here and there. And I think that's the reason every coach he's ever had, hides his "throwing capability" by keeping his throws limited to mid tier level throws(15-20 yards or less). And also explains why the Chiefs who have TALENTED receivers, don't have a TD reception all year. So yes, Alex can throw a deep ball when needed. And his arm isn't "weak", but he does lack consistent velocity needed to make the tough throws over and over, hence why he gets little respect in the league. My two cents from observation.
Haha! Smith is a average bum. Excuses excuses...8 pro bowlers on his team and he's still average. Still doesn't have a passing TD to a receiver. He's a game managing check down qb. He'd be a back up in Oakland. And now 3 head coaches 2 of whom have super bowl experience still don't trust his deep ball. Sorry to hurt your feelings about this very good facilitator...but he's not a deep ball play maker. He's played for 8 offensive coordinators and they ALL don't wan t him throwing deep ball.....Keep convincing yourself Mr slightly above average has a strong arm but everyone else in real world including dozens of actual nfl coaches think otherwise.
***** you can keep making as many excuses as you'd like for him. Pass protection, lack of receivers,.. Blah blah. No passing TD to receivers all year. 8 different coordinators all don't want him throwing the deep ball. Funny how Kap took over his spot, and he throws deep!? Haha. Alex Smith the Facilitator.
Or if you really want imperial data.... Look up David Carr at profootballreference.com.... He was Texans first pick in 2002. Sacked a record 76 times. Worst pass protection EVER. He had arm strength to still fling that ball 60 yards down the field, OVER and OVER without having to wind up. And that's the difference between a good arm, and elite arm. But go ahead, and keep making excuses for his "arm strength". I actually think you believe your own bullshit. And I'd call you an idiot, but I just keep letting you talk out your ass, and I don't have to call you a single name. ;-)
+Not Telling. Kap is an athletic freak, and better than the guy he replaced. And if you look at Kaps stat line... Of 15/24, 114yds, 1TD, 151 rush yds, 1 rush td, NO INT,... anyone can clearly see it wasn't cause Kap played bad. 49ers as a whole team are failing. But for the record... Kap has more passing tds in one game than Alex ALL YEAR. Haha. Enough said.
+Not Telling... How old are you? 17?..18?........ Passing TD to a receiver. Kap the guy who replaced your beloved average bum, has more passing TDs to a receiver in one game than your average bum has all year. And Kap has been sacked more often since you keep crying about Pass Protection.... Haha. Next time proof read your comments, I think my foot is smarter than you. And if you really want something to think about..... If Smith and Kaepernick were both free agents this year, only one would be sought out after. And hate to break your average ass heart, it wouldn't be Smith. Now go learn some basic information, proof read your comments, and keep rooting for the most average QB in the league, other wise known as a great game manager. The average ass Alex Smith. How many superbowls has he been to? Who replaced him and the team did better? Hahahaha.
Him and Tom Brady probably throw the best lob passes in the league.
yall remember the we want carr year? smith is garbage and you smith make it sound like hes a joe montana lol should we call the #1 overall bust alex montana? lmaol
well you can't call an NFL All Star a "bust" ….. that just doesn't make any sense to call someone a bust when they've made the pro bowl aka the NFL All Star game. Alex Smith made the pro bowl last year, therefore he's an NFL All Star and not a bust. Keep in mind that last year's pro bowl was NOT the nfc vs afc, so Alex Smith was selected to be a pro bowl quarterback OVER colin kaepernick.
What the name of the first song its funky
paperboy - ditty
Song ?
WOW!! Step your Shit up #7. Let's Go 49ERS!! #iBleedRed&Gold
Song?
Ditty- Paperboy
LarryKC It's the instrumental. I found it when I googled it and then heard lyrics so I guess it's the instrumental.